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First film pic from Luc Besson's JOAN OF ARC!!!
Well so far all we've seen from this film have been set pictures. But nothing through the camera's eye. Well, here we go. The Current FRENCH edition of PREMIERE has this very nice picture from Luc Besson's upcoming epic looking film. I wonder how he's gonna work in the NIKITA opening shot? Hmmmmm... Other than the set pics... we haven't heard all that much on the movie, which is... for shame. Perhaps we'll see something cool soon from a spy on set or behind the scenes. Personally I'm a little curious when the film is gonna come out. Well, whenever, Luc has me in line for it.
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I think Joan of Arc is going to be great..From what I have seen and heard so far it is going to be a blockbuster..Go check out the Unofficial Joan of Arc Page at
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/4388/JoanArc/index.html
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and it could kick ass doubly if Milla gets naked. On the other hand i have doubts about Hoffmann and Malkovich. They're good actors but both are too contemporary for period pieces like this. Malkovich seemed out of place in Man in the Iron Mask.
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what's to stop Besson from taking artistic license and having her have sex? Remember the Scarlet Letter from a few years ago with Demi Moore and Gary Oldman? They totally changed the ending of the story fer chrissakes! I predict in Besson's film, Joan gets exposed to gamma rays and gains superhuman abilities. She escapes death by flying away to some far away galaxy to fight in some intergalactic war with two venerable Jedi Knights...
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I think this image would be a cool poster for the movie.
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You know we could see a naked Milla even if she was a virgin...Besson could show her taking a bath or something like that...However that has nothing to do with the movie, just an added extra bounus =) This movie does look like it'll be very good, and a lot better then the Joan of Arc movie that Mira's gonna Star in simply becasue of Mr and Mrs Besson's talented work...Mira, Milla, Milla, Mira...Milla, Best Actress?
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I got this little bit of info from a buddy of mine who got it from his genetics class. There are some people who believe that Joan could have been a man. Evidently there is some rare genetic defect that would cause a "man" to not have a "male package". Symptoms of this include, small breasts and a complete lack of body hair (excluding head). Records of the time show that is true with Joan, one of the reasons she was burned at the stake was from her lack of body hair, it would also explain her proclivity towards warfare.
Unfortunately it will be a mystery as to if this is true because DNA tests can't be done because of the burning at the stake. -
Hey, catchy title for a book, that. Wouldn't it be easier just to build a time machine, go back in time and check for ourselves? Of course, she'll end up looking nothing like the fetching Miss Jovovich (or the lovely Miss Sorvino for that matter, or even whassername from the Go-Gos) and our illusions will be shattered. But those are the risks we real men at the forefront of science must take, by God!
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When I was an intern at Digital Domain working on the special effects for "the Fifth Element," Luc Besson was REALLY tight on information leaks. I had to sign non-disclosure agreements for Digital Domain and Luc Besson's company. Only people at the company who had "Fifth Element" passes could get in. Even other workers at Digital Domain were not supposed to enter the effects stages. (Even the special effects supervisor for "Titanic," which was just starting then, was not allowed in). So I suppose some of the lack of information on "Joan of Arc" comes from not wanting to deal with Luc Besson's wrath. (I never heard stories about him getting angry about info leaks, but it seemed everyone was nervous about it).
Keep up the good work, Harry!! Maybe next time I'm in Austin visiting relatives I can find out where you live and say "hi." (I'm from Dallas). Later!! -
How does this guy get to keep making movies? He's a travesty.
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When I was an intern at Digital Domain working on the SFX set of "the Fifth Element," they were really big on non-disclosure of information. Only persons with the correct "Fifth Element" badges were allowed on the stages. Employees not working on the set were not allowed in, and they even refused to let the special effects supervisor from "Titanic" (which was just starting up then) in the doors. Maybe all this lack of information comes from people afraid of Luc Besson's wrath. I never heard any rumors of his getting angry at people for disclosure of information, but everyone seemed awfully nervous about it.
Keep up the good work, Harry!! Maybe I'll try to find you next time I come down to Austin from Dallas. -
When I first read this article and looked down and reviewed the talk back section, I saw a bunch of posts with Hmmmmm in the damn subject. Wonder who that could be? Maybe Sarek1. Gee I am right. You sicken me. And who gives a hell if you posted the first 15 times, just goes to show you have absolutely no life, you jabrony.
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Jan 15, 1999 3:15:46 PM CST
Jean Reno is still the "Drummer who will not tell us his name!"
by methos
This is why I love Harry's site. I'm going down to the bookstore to pick up my copy of the French Premiere, a superior magazine. Even the covers are better. Check out the cover with Spielberg and Besson, and "The Big Blue" 10th anniversary cover/reunion with Jean Reno and Jean-Marc Barr!
As for "Jeanne d'arc," I'm a little worried. I love Besson, but this is the kind of movie that could bite him in the ass.It may well be as cursed as that Scottish play. Milla Jovovich is beautiful, but this is an extremely tall order for an actor. Can anyone say Jean Seberg? -
Hi! Just wanted to say that I read someplace that this film is supposed to come out November 99. Or so I heard. I can't wait for the next Luc Besson pic. I really like 5th Element. The story was hokey, but the way it was put together - WOW! And this time I believe Luc didn't write the script himself. Here's hoping!
BTW Mummy looks cool!
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HEY! I just gotta' say that the Fifth Element was by now way shape or form better than 1 and a half seconds of Star Wars. FE was good, but if I had to make the choice, I'd rather watch a measly minute of a Star Wars film, than the entire Fifth Element film, in widescreen, with a behind the scenes show, and the original theatrical trailer. And I don't know what Joan of Arc will be like, but I'll say it'll probably be pretty good. Not Oscar status, but pretty damn good, nonetheless.
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Luc Besson is one of our finest directors alive. He could direct circles around Spielberg, because Spielberg only comes out with real good flicks every once and a while (i.e. COLOR PURPLE, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, SCHINDLER'S LIST). I loved THE FIFTH ELEMENT, but I accept that there were more holes in the plot than a brick of Swiss cheese, and I still enjoyed it! I want to know nothing about this movie, like STAR WARS and EYES WIDE SHUT, I want to see it with virgin eyes. Visit my web site for movie reviews, pix and more! http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Picture/3059/
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Luc Besson is one of our finest directors alive. He could direct circles around Spielberg, because Spielberg only comes out with real good flicks every once and a while (i.e. COLOR PURPLE, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, SCHINDLER'S LIST). I loved THE FIFTH ELEMENT, but I accept that there were more holes in the plot than a brick of Swiss cheese, and I still enjoyed it! I want to know nothing about this movie, like STAR WARS and EYES WIDE SHUT, I want to see it with virgin eyes. Visit my web site for movie reviews, pix and more! http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Picture/3059/
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The condition you are talking about is called Testicular Feminization Syndrome. The person is sexually a male, but appears as a tall, extremely beautiful woman. A perfect example of this is Jamie Lee Curtis. Ever wonder why she adopted 2 children? She has all the external parts, but has a blind vagina, no uterus, or ovaries. She had two testicles in her abdomen. These patients typically have surgery at a very young age to remove the testicles that still remain in their abdomens. These testicles would become cancerous, otherwise.
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First, a note to establish my claim to scholarship, or at least to pedantry: I've read every damn book ever published in English (and some in French) on Jeanne d'Arc, and have studied carefuly her trials of condemnation and rehabilitation. I can say authoritatively that she was NOT a man, and did not suffer from Testicular Feminization syndrome.
At the time the King "hired" her, her genetalia were examined by a group of women, and found to be completely normal. (They were checking to see if she still had her hymen. She did.) Contrary to what a previous poster has written, no-one (at her trial, or elsewhere) ever commented on her lack of body hair. They burned her for other reasons.
And her breasts were NOT small. She often dressed in the company of male attendants -- an obscure historical factoid which presents ample opportunity for that nude scene Mila's fans are clamoring for. (I sure as hell won't mind it!) These witnesses later testified that her breasts were full and "well-formed" -- which means that lovely Mila may, in fact, be UNDER-qualified the role.
One plucky lad who had been one of Joan's attendants was so smitten by the Johannic groodies that he copped a feel; she bashed his face in. (A note of pedantry: This info comes from the rehabilitation trial, which survives in Latin. The published version mis-printed "mamum" (breast) for "manum" (hand); for many years, scholars wondered why Joan got so ticked off just because someone tried to touch her hand.)
I'm not sure if lovely Mila is the best choice for the role. The real Joan was 5'2", muscular yet shapely, and had black hair. Sort of like Winona Ryder. The girl in "Bill and Ted" actually wasn't far off the mark.
Jeanne d'Arc is a lint trap for weird theories, most of them baseless. For an overview of these theories, see the "Discussion" section of "The Sword of God," by Guy Endore...who was also a screenwriter, best-known for "Werewolf of London." (Just to bring the subject of movies back into this overlong post...) -
As much as I love Milla, and think she would look great nude, I don't think it would be a good idea for this movie. And as a historical drama with action, a good director, and fine cast (also Dustin Hoffman and John Malkovich), this could be a Oscar winner and a Box Office hit. Now all we need is Jean Reno as her soldier/buddy who name escapes me, and Natalie Portman in cameo as Joan's younger sister. BTW - WTF is the deal with Mira Sorvino's JoA, sounds like a big mistake to me. Did you know ABC is having a JoA Miniseries around May or so with Leelee Sobieski (Eyes Wide Shut, Deep Impact). SHe has grown up rather well..
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Isn't it amazing what the vagina can accomplish? I wish I had one. Just a few years ago, Milla Jovovich was languishing away in late-night cable purgatory ( anyone remember Return to the Blue Lagoon? ), and the next thing you know, she gives up the "chatte" to a famous French director and finds herself cast as Joan of Arc -- the grand, self-immolating role every actress wants to play, as Pauline Kael noted, just as every director's grand, self-immolating desire is to make a film about Napoleon. But Besson isn't doing his girlfriend ( or is she his wife now? ) any favors by casting her in such a high-pressure role. First of all, Falconetti's portrayal in Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc is definitive. Jean Seberg tried to take her on in Otto Preminger's Joan of Arc film from the 50's -- she went up in flames. Then there was the little seen Jacques Rivette version, filmed in 1991 ( ? ) with Sandrine Bonnaire. This was so successful it's not even available on video in the U.S. The warpath is strewn with the mangled bodies of all these outrageously talented directors and actresses, yet here comes Besson -- not a past master himself -- with his attempt at an epic-scale, "cast of thousands" Joan of Arc, starring a dizzy little twig of a girl who provided the most cringe-inducing scenes out of many in The Fifth Element. Why does Jovovich deserve this role, when there are so many others -- Winona Ryder, Charlize Theron, Ashley Judd -- who could undoubtedly play it better? Because that's what Besson owed her, for a year or more of great, acrobatic sex. This will be a disaster, trust me. ( On the other hand, Luc's Gallic predescessor, the young Roger Vadim, cast his wife in his first movies and that worked out pretty well. What was her name again? Oh yeah -- Brigitte.
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Mr Malcontent, you are right about this being a multimillion dollar valentine to Milla after all, "Nikita" was as much to Anne Pirallaud, but plenty of us are happy enough with how that movie turned out. It is being written by Andrew Birkin, a sometimes offbeat filmmaker and scriptwriter, and Kubrick alumnus. (which ties in nicely with you Kael/Napoleon quote) What ever did happen to Kathryn Bigelows "In The Company Of Angels"? I would have though, post Braveheart it would have been out of tha gate quicker than you can say "Kill The English Scum!"
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Working at Heathrow Airport in London has it's advantages. You get to see movie stars aplenty, and if you are quick, you get to pick thier brains,(if any!). Anyway who should walk into our humble shop but TCHEKY KARYO, funny talking bad man in "Bad Boys", and star of Besson's "Nikita" and now French General in "Joan of Arc". Now to the brain picking. So after the usual formalities are over it's time to dish the dirt on his movies. The so-laid-back-you-could-rest-your- pint-on-his-chest-without-fear-of-spilling-it-Karyo started to tell all. Firstly about his role in "Wing Commander". His character is a general who is not part of the game, it has been made up for the movie. He said that if the effects were done right it could be quite a cool movie. The movie I wanted to hear about was "Joan". I told him that I was worried about it as I thought that, "The Filth Sediment" was poor and made for kids. He agreed with me stating that Luc's idea was to make it for a wider audience, shame on him I retorted. Then he opened his mouth to produce music to my ears,"With Joan Of Arc Luc if definatly going for the feel of the period." Ugh!!, so is it going to be violent? "From what we have already filmed and from what Luc has in mind, very much so. It will be an amazingly shot movie with lot's of burnings, decapitation and unfourtunatly for me horse riding." So as his flight to Paris Charles De Gaul is hollered over the speaker system, he says his goodbye's and is gone, knowing that he has made this Besson fan and many others very happy.
Make sure that I will inform you of any other goings on in this wonderful time of movie making.
If you want to chat E-mail me on:
meat9@hotmail.com
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Perhaps Joan of Arc was an alien. They probably would have burned aliens back in the middle-ages.
On the subject of the film, any movie that includes big budget medieval battle scenes, has got to kick serious buttocks.
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