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Well folks this isn't toooooo much, but it is a little bit. Well we all know that last week Lucas said he had the script for a fourth Indiana Jones flick locked down, but at that time, at least according to what we heard, he said that he was waiting on Ford and Spielberg. Well read this...
First time Mailer, long time reader here. I was reading 'The Herald-Sun' (A Melbourne Newspaper) on Friday when it had
yet another story on George and The filming to be done here in Australia on Ep. 2 & 3. The interesting part of this article was
George said that the Indy 4 script was finished, Harrison Ford was ready and filming was ready to begin.
Don't know if this is of any use to you but i got all excited about it when I read it.
Cya,
Cam the Yarrambat boy
Well shucks. Ford is ready huh? Last I heard he was getting ready to shoot WHAT LIES BENEATH with Zemeckis. If anyone knows what the shooting schedule on that is, plus whatever the heck Spielberg is up to... Well I'd be mighty obliged. Thank ya kindly...
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Hello all! Well, I for one hope that Indy 4 finally comes around before Harrison looks too old. I just saw Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom in theatres for the first time a few weeks ago, and it got me more excited to see a brand new Indy. Lets hope Speilburg holds off on Geisha and takes on Indy!
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So how about you put geisha on hold and make indy 4 we are begging you please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
MAKE THIS FILM
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So, Spielburg.... looks like you can't resist the pleading fans... give us more whip-crackin' serial action!!!!!
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Harry, I believe Spielberg is going to film Memoirs of a Geisha in April, then a film on Lindbergh, then Indy 4, then an adaptation of The Notebook. This is a rumored schedule, though, so I can't guarantee it'll be correct. Go to www.spielberg-dreamworks.com.
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Read the PC Gamer article about the new LucasArts game Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine.....looks to be quite cool...anyhow, it was revealed that the first storyline concept for the game was rejected by Lucasfilm management because it was similar to a potential plotline for the next Indy movie.....(not much but info, but its something...)
Anyhow, does anyone know the validity of the rumors that Michelle Yeoh and Jet Li were to be involved in the next Indy movie? Is that as true as the rumors about Kevin Costner and Tom Selleck? Has anyone seen the movie Lost Horizon? Maybe Indy should go after Shangri-La? -
The site: www.indy4.com is owned by:
Phillip Nakov & Lincoln Gasking P/L (INDY14-DOM)
Countdown Productions 100
Santa Monica, CA
Domain Name: INDY4.COM
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I was in a movie poster/script store the other day and saw a reasonably official-looking script called "Indiana Jones and the Martians" or something to that effect. Written by George Lucas and Jeb Stuart (the latter had writing credits on The Fugitive and two of the Die Hard films). Anybody know anything about this?
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Maybe HARRISON is getting to old for the part.....What about BRUCE CAMBPELL for the part??? And get over it.....It's not sacrilige to have someone new...
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the official website takes you straight to www.starwars.com, just an interesting factoid.
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I remember when I first saw LAST CRUSADE, and Spieberg danced the camera around the fedora of what looked to be Indiana Jones and then the actor lifted his head and then you knew it was NOT Indy because it was not Ford. After the young Indy opening sequence we get another shot of the fedora's rim, the the actor lifts his head and of course this time it IS Indiana Jones. I for one NEVER want to see an Indy film made with out THE Indy, Harrison Ford.
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O.K. We've heard about the script being ready to go, and waiting for Ford & Spielberg, but take this paper's comments about their availability with a grain of you-know-what. They tend to 'stretch' the truth sometimes (yes, even from personal experience!), and misquote.
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He still looks believable... stunt doubles do the rest. Besides, a big part of Indy's charm has him getting knocked around senseless, feeling sore, then just getting fed up and socking his Nazi tormentor (or something to that effect). Bruce Campbell's cool as hell, no doubt about that (I'm staring at the Army of Darkness DVD right now), but he ain't Indy.
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Yeah. You're right about the
www.indy4.com being unofficial.
I actually didn't realize there
was an www.indianajones.com site,
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I love Bruce, and Grunter I respect your opinion but Campell can act....anyway, To have an Indy4 without Ford would be pathetic...no matter who they replaced him with...Ford isn't one of my favorite actors, but to me he will always be Indy and Solo....Oh, I for one would rather not have a huge amount of superstars in the movie, ie. Selleck, whoever....lame, obvious-ass cameos suck.
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I liked Bruce Campbell as Ash, but hey, he's no spring chicken anymore. If you must replace Ford, then at least get someone who (a) does not have one foot in the geriatric set (b)does not look like a hatchet.
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let's REALLY be honest here, calling it INDY 4 is really a lie, because there's only been ONE indy movie...RAIDERS.
can we all agree "temple of doom" sucked. and can we all agree that "crusade" is to indy what "jedi" is to star wars. a pale immitation.
what we need is not another excuse for seeing harry running around with the hat and whip. what we need is A GOOD STORY.
and before you all start posting shit that i'm some dickhead or something, just keep in mind that "crusade" is an embarrassing film with no story. they RUINED the marcus brody character. (remember him in "raiders?" he said a few years ago HE would have gone after the ark. he was an aging indy himself. by the third movie, he was an idiotic dolt who got lost in his own museum. the hell?)
we need a good story. if not, leave one of the greatest characters in film history alone. i have my laserdisc...i'm happy watching him climb over trucks and swim to submarines.
don't get me wrong, i would LOVE a great indy movie. but there's nothing worse than sitting through a BAD one.
george, steve, harry...you're the three most powerful men in this damn industry. you don't need the money. you don't need the glory. if you do this, do it right, or don't do it all. indy wouldn't have it any other way -
you know I really enjoyed Temple of Doom...probably my favorite of the Indy movies...and I know I'll proablably get flamed for posting this but what the hay...you know...Bruce Cambell as Indy..I think BC is very cool...but he's not Indy...I could accept a new Indy but Not BC(who can act BTW)...maybe Sam Neil...who knows
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I can't imagine anyone else but Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones. It's time to wrap up the series, at least in its present form. For the last episode, why not return full circle, in a sense. WWII rages across Europe, IJ is hanging out in Jerusalem. He is tracked by down by Nazis who capture him and force him to work for them. They are in search of the Spear of Destiny, the spear that pierced Christ's side, whoever shall possess it will rule the world. They are led by a particularly dark and nasty type who shuns daylight. IJ escapes (is allowed to escape) after finding out the spear is hidden in a monastery in western Romania (Trannsylvania). Of course, IJ proceeds to Romania, finds the spear, and is confronted by the Nazi vampire. Obviously, this idea borrows from a number of sources, including previous films, but so what. Action, character, and mythos always made the films for me, screw originality. The conflict with the Nazis (ultimate evil) always intrigued me as well.
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The mantle of INDY can be passed on.....the did it with BOND....they can do it here....i love SEAN CONNERY too....he was my favorite......but even the best passes on the torch to a new one......And damm.....you must be on crack if you think that BRUCE CAMPBELL CAN'T ACT!!! You should be ashamed of yourself....physical comedy is one of the hardest things to do.....and he does it brilliantly....i for one would rather see him making 20 mill. a picture than some of these other stars....he deserves it.....and if you think that he can't do drama.....Obviously you never saw HOMICIDE......
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I don't think they will replace Mr. Sexy (according to People Mag). It's like replacing Sean Connery as Bond. As much as we all love Bruce, whoever gets the role would be the Roger Moore of the series. Maybe passable (barley) but never the same.
Oh, and sorry about the empty post. I'm new, and an AOLer... some geek, eh? -
I don't think there should be any big worries about Harrison Ford being too old just yet. Sure the guy's 56 (or somewhere in his mid-fifties) but he's still in a lot better shape than most people writing about this subject, including myself. We can all only hope to be in the same physical condition as him when we're that age. I mean, for God's sake, the guy looks only forty! Besides, doesn't everyone wish the Sean Connery kept doing Bond movies for a few more years instead of handing it over to Lazenby and Moore? Hey it also just occurred to me; does everyone realize that Ford is only like 15 years younger than Sean Connery? I don't remember anyone not being convinced that they were father and son, though.
But at the same time, I want to put in a good word for Bruce Campbell. I don't know about him being Indiana Jones, but the guy up above is right: he did a guest appearance on the ultra-dark Homicide: Life on the Street (the greatest show to ever be put on television)and did a great job playing a cop who's partner is killed, and who then goes off the deep end getting revenge. No goofy traces of Ash at all (though Ash is awesome too). -
Harrison Ford IS Indiana Jones. He still looks like Indy and sounds like him, and anything that falls short of the mark can be rectified with post production. If there's to be a successor, then what about his hitherto unknown younger half brother, played by Tom Sizemore?
I think 99% of us agree about the sad "Temple", but "Last Crusade" wasn't bad...as a sequel. Problem is, the title it had..."Last" poses some problems. See, Pheonix wasn't supposed to die on us and upset the ongoing portrayal of Indy's middle years. But he did. Agree with Darth, if there's a sequel, it has to have a strong story...stronger than "Last", which was a bit too calculated to please. "Raiders" was fresh because it took risks. "Doom" failed because it tried too hard(Yet its first 15 minutes are classic). And what about one of the most important ingredients that made "Raiders" work? A strong female lead. A woman with machismo, instead of the "dumb blonde" we had in "Doom", or the vamp in "Last"? -
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Anyone interested in more information should Email.
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just a quick thought here: bruce campbell would be cool, he's got that 50's lead/hero melodrama all about him.. it's classic; but if he wouldn't/couldn't do it, there's always marlon brando jr - val kilmer..
that's right, val kilmer.
the guy's a _great_ chameleon or george clooney..?? that last one's a bit of a joke.
and as far as sequels go, i think temple of doom is a better film, it captures all of the cool old serial movies in look and feel (not to mention situations: majik, cults and rope bridges over croc filled waters).. also, short round is excellent; heart ripping; woman sacrifice; dan akroyd; lau che airlines; bug scene to die for; child labour/slavery; club obi-wan.. what more could you ask for? (i need to stop and get back to work)..
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Just thought I'd throw my vote in for Temple of Doom as a worthy sequel. Like they said before, I loved it for not being a rehash, but retaining the spirit of the first film and even expanding the world of the series. I just remember being a kid and seeing it, feeling giddy because I had no idea where the movie was going to go next, and loving every minute of it.
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You've all hit the nail on the head- Temple of Doom is the 'fun' one of the series and just can't be taken as seriously as the other two. That's why it gets slagged. Raiders and LC are rooted firmly in Judeo-Christian mythology and are about saving the world from evil; Temple centres around some rocks no one's ever heard of and is about eating monkey brains. Not quite on the same scale, is it? Personally I didn't mind the movie, but I can sympathize with those who feel it's a big let-down.
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"Hey, wasn't Raiders a lot of fun to make ! Let's make another! Ok, but where do we start? Well, first off, we gotta hook the kids. Kids liked all the yuk stuff..I know, something like the snake pit again. How about spiders and centerpedes? Yeh, but something really yuk. How about sending up them strange things them foreigners eat, like monkey brains and slushy eyeballs. Kids will get off on that! Isn't it cheap? Nah, who cares, got any better ideas? How about someone eating food after a fly has landed on it? Yeh, that too. Squeamish stuff. Get the kids going. Love interest? Nah, kids get bored. They think that love stuff sucks. Unless you make them that's involved look stupid,and then kids will like it. And the broads gotta be dumb, so the kids can 'control' the situation. Bad guys? Grown ups! Kids like to see grown ups as bad guys. Hang on, Indiana is a grown up. Ok, give him a kid as a side kick..yeh, that's it, and make him a wise cracker too..kids will love that. But what about Indiana? Isn't he supposed to be the hero? Mmaybe, but not until we have made the kid a hero too, which means we gotta make Indiana a bad guy for a bit...he can then redeem himself someway...by saving, um, saving lots of kids...what else do kids like? Well, they like rollercoasters. Ok, put one of them in too. What about a story line? Just build it around them things.
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Right on to the guy up above me. You hit the nail on the head about a lot of bad attitudes swarming around here. What's up with this feeling of entitlement and ownership that people are always going on about? I mean, these are the same types of people who bitch and moan about any piece of minutiae they can get their hands on about the new Star Wars, instead of just being excited by the simple fact that THERE'S A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE COMING OUT!! (And even if it ends up being a total piece of crap [not likely] who really cares in the long run? It won't take away from the films in the series that are already good). If this type of forum was available in 1980, you'd hear them all bitching and saying stuff like, "Did you hear where the first part of Empire Strikes Back is set? On some planet that's all snow!! What the hell is that all about? What kind of cool battles can be fought in the snow with no cover? And what kind of title is Empire Strikes back, anyways?" Sometimes I pine for the old days, when people genuinely were enthusiastic about good films, instead of bagging on them as a way to compensate for something missing in their life (like an ability to write their own scripts, stories, etc.)
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So you think Ford is too old? Have you ever read Frank Miller's 'Dark Knight Returns'? Heroes are never too old to be bad-asses. If they make this movie without him, no one will care.
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There was a small article in The Herald Sun here on the 6-11-98 to the effect that George Lucas has stated that there is now a script for a new Indy film. He did not, however, say what the film was about or what it is to be called.
Regards
Christopher
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So it look like Harriso Ford might be making another Jack Ryan film called The Sum of All Fears next year.Lets hope Ford and Spielberg like Lucas' new Indy IV
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Everett, Sam Neill is 5 years younger than Harrison so if the point is to get a younger Indi then that doesn't make a bunch of sense.
And please, would you guys really settle for film adaptations of comics like Spear Of Destiny or Fate Of Atlantis. Yeah, they're good comics, but don't we want something new? Something we haven't seen before? (and I'm not talking about a replacement actor filling Harrison's shoes)
I'd hope that to Indi fans the point isn't to make another Indi movie, it's for Harrison, Steven and George to make another Indi movie, right?
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