Fate of the Episode One Trailer, John Williams' Score, a tidbit on INDY IV and More
Well folks according to what a Lucasfilm spokesperson told MTV, we will see the trailer before the end of the year complements of the Official Star Wars Web site. Yeah yeah, I know... you want to see it in theaters first. Well the source that was talking about THE WATERBOY and MEET JOE BLACK as possible locations for a trailer... well they firmed up their credentials, but they are still talking about the trailer not arriving till mid-November. While I have someone that works very high up over at Pixar telling me (along with quite a few other people) that the trailer is about 99.9% sure of showing in front of A BUG'S LIFE. (as well as the TARZAN trailer and MIGHTY JOE YOUNG) And then there is the PRINCE OF EGYPT contingent that guarantees the trailer there. I really really feel that we all need to just relax. It will play when it will play. In the meanwhile, we should all dress up in Apes costumes and greet John Glenn when he arrives back on Earth.
Meanwhile the news wagon continues... Apparently someone overheard Lucas talking during his Luncheon yesterday in Sydney, that they have a script ready for INDY IV, but he is now waiting on Harrison Ford and Steven Spielberg. Wellllll.... It just so happens that my little pert eared people in Australia tell me that Spielberg will be at the conference beginning possibly today. Hmmmm... God Willing, we'll hear what he's gonna be doing next. (Cross your fingers and pray for INDY IV!!!) It seems we have reached a turning point of activity on EPISODE 2. This, my friends, is a really really great sign. Why? Well it shows extreme confidence in this first film. And it's the beginning of a surge of momentum. With a mere 6 months to go and only 11 months till work begins on Episode 2... well it shows that work is obviously beginning on the 2nd installment. Animatics are being made, designs are being worked out, and the scripts are being finished. Meaning... everyone is no longer working on Episode 1. The film is in it's finishing stages. To illustrate this.. well I got this tidbit about John Williams below...
Hi this is Alex, that bowler hat wearing jock-strapped guy from London.
I've got a fantastic scoop for you: A friend of mine who shall remain anonymous, works at the Barbican where you will remember John Williams recently held some absolutely fantastic concerts. He was present along with just John Williams and the London Symphony Orchestra at the get together after the last nights show in July, his parting words to the group were "Anyway I'll see you all soon in February for the Star Wars films"
This is good news as it means Williams will use the world best LSO for the prequels, rather than the inferior Boston Pops or a studio orchestra as he has been using recently. My friend will thus be present at the sessions in February as part of the sound tech crew and will be privy to the early demo recordings!
This next fellow claims to have been at a position to see sensitive materials at Lucasfilm, and claims that at least on one memo, the following was the title being used for Episode III. Is it true? Well it very well could have been when he saw it, but these titles always seem to be as solid as a glass of evaporated milk. I wouldn't go out making your fanboy T-shirts just yet, afterall... it's a good 5 or 6 years till it'll be coming out. But hey... ain't it fun to guesstimate about this stuff?
Call me 'Quark' for anonymity's sake. Anyway, I have some delightful little 'inside' information on a very likely title for Episode III of the prequel trilogy! I just finished a recent 3-month stint working as an intern (that dreaded word) at Lucasfilm, Ltd.'s Los Angeles-area offices. During my tenure, I had the distinct pleasure of filing and sealing numerous letters, invoices, spreadsheets, etc. Incidentally, one particular memo caught my eye: a freshly typed memo addressed directly to George Lucas, c/o Skywalker Ranch. The document contained an elaborate cost and budget schedule for the first episode and some projected data of a similar nature for Episodes II and III. Episode II was marked simply "Ep2," but Episode III was labeled "Ep3. Fall of the Jedi." As such, I have a feeling Mr. Lucas is leaning toward Fall of the Jedi for the title of his third installment. The title could be a tentative one, or possibly another elaborate hoax. Nevertheless, I'm willing to wager the farm (or Ranch, as it were) that George is going with it. One reason stands out in my mind: the continuity. Fall of the Jedi ties in brilliantly with Episode VI's title Return of the Jedi. George has often stated that the 'true theme' of the Star Wars series was 'redemption' (as in Anakin's). Fall of the Jedi would imply that Anakin experiences his "fall from grace" (we know George loves his mythological archetypes!) and that the last remaining Jedi "fall" from existence. The rise of Luke as a new Jedi Knight and the salvation of Anakin's soul in Episode VI would thus grant Return of the Jedi all the more depth behind its title. In short -- FotJ is too perfect not to be the title. I'll keep you guys posted if I find out any more. >=)
Groovy... this will hopefully mean that we will get to hear the inside skinny on the scoring of the film. Though, I must say, there is no place I would rather be in history, than at this scoring session. If there is one aspect of these films I am most looking forward to... well it has to be Williams' scores. I'm so very excited about it. This next informant has been a contributor of AICN for a very very long time and has always been reliable. Although this is a case where he is relying on another's information. Here's his scoop...
Just thought I'd clarify some of the stuff circulating about the Star Wars trailer, especially as it regards these supposed showings of the trailer in select cities on such films as MEET JOE BLACK, et al.
According to my source at Fox, only a select few top Fox execs have even seen the thing, much less been able to take steps to lock it into any theaters at this time. Fox' advertising and promotional campaign for Episode One does not officially commence until Thanksgiving week, and as per the terms of that arrangement, LucasFilm is obligated to provide the studio with a trailer no later than that week, and certainly no sooner. It will not go on THE SIEGE due to that film's R-rating and it's pre-Thanksgiving release.
At this stage, the trailer is 99.9% going to be attached to A Bug's Life, at least initially, and then spread out across a number of other features (Star Trek, Thin Red Line, etc) throughout the month of December. The "2-part" trailer (designed to keep people in their seats until the end of the movie) is a complete fallacy.
Booster Gold @ The Warner Commisary, Restroom, 2nd Stall to the left
THen finally, this next part has to do with something sooooo... hmmmm strange I don't even know what to say. In England, I believe they'd call this bollocks, which the gorgeous Vivian Leigh once told me meant testicles which is translated into english as Bullshit. Well, This part does have SPOILERS but only if it is true. Personally I believe it to be erroneous reporting by some reporter... But... ya never know... I mean.. come on.. Some people still don't believe THE PHANTOM MENACE thingee...
Here's a paragraph from a report in Melbourne newspaper The Age(5th Nov):
"Because the new films are prequels, fans will be able to see the development of their favorite characters, Luke Skywalker (from farm boy to hero), Princess Leia (from pretty girl to member of the Galactic Senate) and Han Solo (raised by space gypsies)."
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Nov. 5, 1998, 4:32 a.m. CST
by Stale Elvis
...its a well known fact that Solo was brought up by space gypsies. In the numerous Essential guides and Technical Manuals that have come from LFL many tell the stories of how Han and Chewie would steal babies, play the fiddle and chase dusky maidens around a campfire in the Falcons forward hold... ...its a known fact...
Nov. 5, 1998, 6:40 a.m. CST
Well if the Bantam books are anything to go by and I presume they are since they are approved by Lucas. Han Solo was raised as an orphan by a guy who seems to be a cross between Fagan and Bill Sykes in Oliver Twist. The basic story is that he is used as a child to go out and pickpockets etc. I guess that isn't too far from Space Gypsies :)
Nov. 5, 1998, 6:52 a.m. CST
Harry- thanks for the tip on the STAP last night at Toys R Us!
Nov. 5, 1998, 7:02 a.m. CST
All this John Williams LSO stuff is pure smokescreen - I know this from a trusted and reliable source. The entire prequel trilogy is to have a 'back to basics' feel and the music is going to be a purely Ewoks-banging-on-Stormtrooper-helmets- and-whooping-like-muppets extravaganza, recorded on a cheap dictaphone with fading batteries. Don't forget - Lucas is purely avant-garde in origin and is getting reading to shock the world with this retro thing. I SWEAR TO YOU.
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:08 a.m. CST
In the past, I have been telling you and telling you that the title of episode 1 is no thte Phantom Menace. I have received hundreds of nasty e-mails saying how wrong I am. If you go to www.yakface.com you will notice a little interview with Rick Mcallum concerning the title. I told you that is was another Blue Harvest scenario. Read it and weep!
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:34 a.m. CST
This ties in more with yesterday's story but I'm posting it here so maybe it will reach more of you. I work at a bookstore and for a few weeks we've been told to expect a "Star Wars Masterpiece Edition" by Stephen J. Sansweet @$75 a copy. When we got it yesterday it turned out to be a big trapezoid shaped box with 13 and 1/2 inch Anakin Skywalker figure by Kenner and a hardcover book about his life. The box says it's a limited edition but gives no idea of how many are out there. We only got four copies.
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:50 a.m. CST
I've always liked the LSO recordings of Star Wars and Raiders and am pleased to hear he is using them again. For some reason that I can't put my finger on, Williams' LSO scores always sounded better than his scores which were recorded by studio orchestras. And I don't in any way mean to suggest that studio musicians aren't as talented. In fact, they are more talented in many instances. It's just that there's some unique quality to Williams' LSO recordings that the others just don't have. Personally, I'd love it if he used the Chicago Symphony-- my personal favorite. Nothing beats the sound and power of the Chicago brass.
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:52 a.m. CST
That's the silliest thing I've every read...Leia goes from PRETTY GIRL to the Galactic Senate. Gee...once upon a time Leia was just a simple pretty girl...walking around be pretty... And A New Hope showed us Luke going from a farmboy to "hero"...if that emailer didn't make that "article" up, then that newspaper is run by idiots. Pretty Girl....hehe...
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:59 a.m. CST
'fans will be able to see the development of their favorite characters, Luke Skywalker (from farm boy to hero),' Wasn't this done before ? I think the film was called Star Wars.
Nov. 5, 1998, 9:08 a.m. CST
Okay Okay...... here's the definitive guide once and for all.... A STOP to all the rumours! I have the complete 100% scoop, so LISTEN UP!!! There never were any Star Wars movies, and George Lucas is not a real person. I know, I know. I'm sure some of you are going to argue: "but I've seen the movies, a lot of times....this just can't be true!!" Trust me on this one, I have it on a VERY RELIABLE source.....there weren't any movies. I realize this will come as a shock to literally TONZ of people, and I really do hate to be the one to break this to the public as whole. I was shocked as anyone else, but my source ASSURES me that s/he is correct on this one.... Just thought you all might like to know!!!
Nov. 5, 1998, 9:10 a.m. CST
I see Harry, you are a fan of John Boy & Billy. What do they think of the Prequals?
Nov. 5, 1998, 9:14 a.m. CST
Yeah, I got that joke email forwarded to me the other day so don't swipe it and pass it off as your own. Develop your own comedy material.
Nov. 5, 1998, 9:18 a.m. CST
by Stone Cold
Hey Dan, go back and read that interview again. There has been a section added from the webmaster saying that it is false. I am sorry you got your hopes up, but it looks like it is "The Phantom Menace" after all.
Nov. 5, 1998, 9:26 a.m. CST
I heard that Jessee "The Mind" Ventura also got elected governor of the Imperial Senate in EP1 and will force Anakin and Obi-Wan to wrestle each other thus causing Anakin to have "feelings" towards Obi-Wan and other males. This makes Obi_Wan upset and thus causes him to fight Anakin in EP3 ("Fall of the Jedi") and thus turn him into Vader. This is from a very reliable source at LFL
Nov. 5, 1998, 10:36 a.m. CST
Are you referring to the one that starts lieke this: -=-=-=-==-=--=-=-=-=-=- Phantom Menace posted by hfsolo 11/4/98 Well here is something all of you will enjoy. The latest issue of the Insider will be out in about 2 weeks. Here is the very interesting part.......Let me know what you think.... This is being passed around and it is NOT TRUE!!!!! Completely FALSE!!!!!!!! Sorry for the misinformation. I am glad to get this straightened out. And by the way the actual title of the film is "The Phantom Menace" 100% POSITIVE NO IF AND OR BUTS. You can quote me on this. HFSOLO. The interview below is FALSE!! SWI: There have been sayings that the first prequel will be called "The Phant... -=-=-=-==-=--=-=-=-=-=- Is that the one you're talking about? At www.yakface.com?
Nov. 5, 1998, 11:13 a.m. CST
Enough of this Boston Pops bashing. Nothing wrong with the LSO, but it's a fact that when John Williams wants to record a quality score (Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan), he comes to the Boston Symphony Orchestra (which, as everyone knows, is made up of the same musicians that play with the Pops). I have a friend who works very closely with the BSO and he spent some time with John Williams at the end of the summer. He is working on the prequel score, that is a fact. I don't know if the Ewok guy is just blowing smoke or trying to be funny, but he's a little off base.
Nov. 5, 1998, 11:22 a.m. CST
This made me smile: "My life has not been devoted to Star Wars, compared with some people that I have discovered on the Internet." Screen International (UK) Nov 5th 98. He has a point....
Nov. 5, 1998, 1:01 p.m. CST
by Pips Orcille
Okay Odolye... I'm being negative against you not because of what you "claim" about Star Wars and George Lucas, but because you're getting dated resources. I'm sure you must be from another planet, but on planet Earth, we have seen the Star Wars movies... They have made lots of money and are available to rent or buy (DVD, Laserdisc, VHS), okay? George Lucas is a real character, because we have seen videos of him. Odolye, whether or not you're making a prank joke towards all of us SW fans, your sources are so obsolete. It's too late to declare this dude, because there's already proof that Lucas and his movies do exist. If there weren't any SW movies made, then maybe you could have said what you had to say about them. Too late for that. Overall, what you just said in your post either states you intended on playing a joke or you must have your head shoved up your ass. No more of these nonsense posts!
Nov. 5, 1998, 1:38 p.m. CST
Sorry fella, but you are DEAD WRONG. What I'm telling all of you is 100% ACCURATE!! There never have been, nor will there ever be ANY Star Wars movies. It's a fact. Sorry to burst your buble, but it's the truth. I realize that you BELIEVE you have seen 3 or so Star Wars movies (I don't include that Christmas fiasco in any way, shape or form, it definately wasn'r STAR WARS :) )but it just isn't so. You have been misled. It's a sad thing I know. Believe me when I tell you this..... THERE ARE NO STAR WARS MOVIES!!!!! Yes, it does suck. (Yes, it does suck hard). I'm sorry. Please refrain from shooting the messenger however. That just isn't fair to me.
Nov. 5, 1998, 2:09 p.m. CST
no it is true-star wars never existed. i regret to have learned this only recently. George lucas, it seems, was a replicant whose life span died out shortly after directing thx-1138. ON a happier note, i rercently read the daily Akakyavich to learn that there is a star wars film coming out called simply Star Wars. starring bill pullman as the president and with matthew broderick as his nerdy "worm guy" alien friend, the film will debut in mid 99. Roland emmerich directs and dean devlin produces, with jon peters serving as executive producer. This film promises to live up to the standard of original entertainment set by the producer director pair in their sci fi classics godzilla and independence day. the villains will be ewoks with slingshots. Also the film will be scored by puff daddy in which such tired rock songs as stairway to heaven and freebird will be sampled to the hip-hop stylings of puffy himself. This film is expected to do large business across a wide demographic due to its universal appeal. Toys will be filling retail outlets this christmas. I dunno about y'all but im excited!
Nov. 5, 1998, 4:36 p.m. CST
Let's not talk about "certain somethings" or other intangibles that are strictly opinions. I'll throw in an observation I made some time ago. There are several instances in the Star Wars soundtracks where one of the instruments hits a sour note, usually in the brass (I suppose they must be more difficult to master than other instruments). I noticed this during my extensive (and ultimately abortive) efforts to fix various audio quirks in the original four-disc collection. I have not noticed similar screwups in any Boston Pops recordings. This is not to refute the original opinion that LSO is "superior"; after all, it's not like they haven't had time to improve. -Maruku Marc Brown email@example.com
Nov. 5, 1998, 4:55 p.m. CST
by Pips Orcille
Odolye, did you just wake up from a dream or something?! Dude, you aren't making the least bit of sense! I've got laserdiscs of Star Wars at home! Dude, you are trying so damn hard, but really, do you have proof? No. PROOF! Where are your damn sources, by the way? 100% correct? My ass! Dude, I know you're trying to upset everyone, but paalease! No one gives a shit, ok?! You're just another dude trying to convince every SW fan in the world that no of this is existant. I know for truth that you are just teasing all of us, because frankly, I don't give a shit what you say. You're like a phony preacher who just has his crazy beliefs. You don't fool me, "pal"! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nov. 5, 1998, 5:06 p.m. CST
I live in Melbourne and that article about Space Gypsies was in there....I have no idea what idiot reporter would print that garbage...but The Age is losing market share and I guess anything goes to sell copies....
Nov. 5, 1998, 5:37 p.m. CST
by Pips Orcille
Odolye, how can you declare Star Wars non-existant if you already have seen it? What, did you burn the movies and feel all happy for doing so? Also,how can you see the Star Wars movies and then say they don't exist? HAHAHAHAHAHA... I'm laughing so hard.... HAHAHAHAHA
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:07 p.m. CST
by Toby O. Notobe
Look guys, it's a fucking joke! He's making fun of everyone who says that they have 100% proof of some asnine rumor. Personally, I thought it was hilarous. Why is it that as soon as the words "Star Wars" appear everyone loses their sense of humor? Lighten up.
Nov. 5, 1998, 8:59 p.m. CST
Can we just have Pips Orcille's testicles removed for making a contiuous line of HAHAHAHAs that made this entire thread of messages annoying to read? Just wondering.
Nov. 5, 1998, 10:50 p.m. CST
I'm all for that. But to tell you the truth, I'm almost curious how someone that dense could figure out how to actually use a computer, much less the web. Maybe he's just playing us all for fools... Circles within Circles...
Nov. 5, 1998, 11:46 p.m. CST
I've bought a lot of soundtracks and several variations of SW and I like to herar all the notes, feel the music etc and John Williams does POPs is no where as good as LSO. LSO has got FEELING behind the music. I don't know why but listening to the two with LSO I get swept away with the music. Who got us behind Indy, or held Jaws at bay and what about ET. In a word LSO it ROCKS,its TOPS. The man's pure CLASS
Nov. 6, 1998, 4:52 a.m. CST
What!, you're telling me you do not think Leia is pretty?....
Nov. 6, 1998, 11:16 a.m. CST
Thank you Todd Waldron.......I didn't want to be the one to have to actually spell it out. Somehow it loses the "humor" that way. Pips has *got* to be kidding..... nobody is really that stupid, are they? Oh well. Trying to force upon anyone who will read it my own form of unique adult contemporary humor. What a gas.....
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