What is this about MGM wanting to make THE HOBBIT with Peter Jackson?

sure smells like. I see you have not given up your old wrong-headed bitterness. PJ's Hobbit will rock (if it ever gets made) with or without romance, and women will flock to it in droves. Haven't you learned anything? Women love stories about courageous little guys getting in over their heads and finding a way through. I sure hope it happens, with as much of the "original" cast as makes sense. Hmm, maybe Viggo will play Beorn in a big bear suit. LOL! Hello ttbers!

Has anyone seen the end sequence of Kings where someone slowed down the footage and everyone is just moaning and groaning and acting like cheap, three-dollar french whores? Its great.

Oh holy day. I knew it wouldn't be long before you chimed in on this thread. For you, Jackson is like a sore tooth - you just can't stop messing with it. Must I remind you that Tolkien is actually more violent than you might think. Check out the number of times the word "cleaved" (and its variants) is used in LOTR. Or the scene where Pippin guts a troll in the Battle of the Morannon. And I do believe Tolkien had the Mumakil brought down by shooting them in the eyes. I'm sorry Ringy, but you do not hold the monopoly on all-things-Tolkien. I don't know what super-polished, shiny, cartoon version of Tolkien you subscribe to but I'll take Jackson's vision over it anyday. Considering his magnificent accomplishment with LOTR, Jackson is and should be the one and only choice to direct "The Hobbit". And if/when he signs on, you're just going to have to deal.

I disagree that his voice was unrecognizable as Treebeard. I thought he sounded altogether too much like Gimli, even through the synth. In fact, some people I was with who didn't know it was the same actor commented that it sounded like Gimli. Ringwearer9 I too am all for somebody else trying their hand at The Hobbit. It is a kid's book, so it deserves a lighter tone. Also, I think it is time for more elves, but depicted a little differently. Nobody exemplifies elves as the xenophobic, rapacious forest-people they really are better than Legolas' dad, the Elven King Thranduil.

...cause nearly the entire world disagrees with you. I wouldn't partner too closely to ol' Ringb(w)earer9...he's insane. Speaking of which, I can't wait until the site updates so I can actually read your reply, Ringodocious. I'm sure it's a doozy.

And I see you are still trying to employ your "Ratfinkus Defence". Absolutely pitiful. You just can't stand that fact that I took your little parasitical friend, zfisk/homewrecker, to task EVERY SINGLE DAY. You're worried over the idea that certain people may actually be paying attention to what you say on these messageboards, aren't you? Zfisk/homewrecker certainly seems to be. *** As for my grade-school teachers, they never yelled at any of my classmates. We were all far too intelligent and good looking for any of that nonsense. My heartfelt sympathies if you were so traumatized. I'm sure AICN has a hotline you can call for post-junior highschool-geek depression. Let us know how that turns out, buddy.

I'm a huuuge Tolkien fan. The Hobbit & LOTR were my biirrthday prrresentss -gollum- in 8th grade and I loved every page of 'em. I was a little leary of Jackson's version when it came out, and was a little disappointed with missing scenes & things being all changed around. But I understood why. Each film would've been 5-6 hours long! lol Overall, I felt the books were treated extraordinarily well in his films and were dark & dreary because the BOOKS were dark & dreary. They actually kinda freaked me out as I read them 'cause they were SO much more tense than The Hobbit. I have no doubts to Jackson's claims at being a huge Tolkien fanboy. If he wasn't, these films would be an hour & a half long and chopped up & stirred around into something unrecognizable, all in the name of Hollywood. Likewise, I have no doubt that he will perfectly capture the spirit of The Hobbit. It may be a little bit darker in order to draw in adult audiences & keep them in their seats - as The Hobbit was written to be a children's book - but I'm sure it'll still be PG. Gandalf was slicing open orcs, Bilbo was gutting giant spiders... plus there's Smaug's rampage on Dale, and the Battle of Five Armies. I'm quite sure those will be a bit exciting to see and possibly quite bloody as well.

I'm a huuuge Tolkien fan. The Hobbit & LOTR were my biirrthday prrresentss -gollum- in 8th grade and I loved every page of 'em. I was a little leary of Jackson's version when it came out, and was a little disappointed with missing scenes & things being all changed around. But I understood why. Each film would've been 5-6 hours long! lol Overall, I felt the books were treated extraordinarily well in his films and were dark & dreary because the BOOKS were dark & dreary. They actually kinda freaked me out as I read them 'cause they were SO much more tense than The Hobbit. I have no doubts to Jackson's claims at being a huge Tolkien fanboy. If he wasn't, these films would be an hour & a half long and chopped up & stirred around into something unrecognizable, all in the name of Hollywood. Likewise, I have no doubt that he will perfectly capture the spirit of The Hobbit. It may be a little bit darker in order to draw in adult audiences & keep them in their seats - as The Hobbit was written to be a children's book - but I'm sure it'll still be PG. Gandalf was slicing open orcs, Bilbo was gutting giant spiders... plus there's Smaug's rampage on Dale, and the Battle of Five Armies. I'm quite sure those will be a bit exciting to see and possibly quite bloody as well.

You can't handle the truce. ;P

For continuity if nothing else. Those who think Mr. Jackson did badly on Lord of Rings are only drinking the sour wine of unrealistic expectations. Best reason, of course, is because he did such wonderful work on sequel to Hobbit. Ha-ha, Mr. Tolkien was bloody as any may want, "...Duilin and his brother were trampled to death when they assailed the mumakil, leading their bowmen close to shoot at the eyes of the Monsters. Long now they sleep under grass in Gondor by the Great River. Grey now as tears, gleaming silver, red then it rolled, roaring water: foam dyed with blood flamed at sunset; as beacons mountains burned at evening; red fell the dew in Rammas Echor."

Priceless! Ice Age is the highest ranking film in worldwide box-office that doesn't have a female character amongst the main cast, just as The Hobbit wouldn't. It ranks number 87. Anyone that doesn't think females make a huge difference in box-office is just ignorant. Antonphd posted that females read more fantasy than males. It's possible, but we aren't talking about literature. Females don't go to fantasy films.

...the Lost Prophet. If Tolkein were a racist, then so was the entire world population of his generation. That's like saying 19th century farmers were Luddites for using a horse drawn plow instead of tractors.

Tolkein was racist. He had an actual belief in the superiority of the white english speaking man. He also had a hard on for reworking ourselves back to our nordic roots. And I still blame him, and his wanky lecture in 1950 or whenever the fuck it was for rediscovering beowulf to academia, thereby perpetuating the misery of bored undergraduates getting it inflicted upon them. Not all of his generation, or previous generations, were racist, but he was one of them.

Show me a human being on this planet who does not, at some time or another, display racist tendencies. I've been on this ol' planet long enough to have observed this. Like I said, he was a product of his time and not subject to todays absolutist and politically correct perception of racism. Please direct me to any of his writings, for example, that show him supporting Nazi propoganda concerning Aryan superiority. It's easy for somebody to attack another on the internet and call them this or that but the actual facts of the matter are entirely another thing. So, please give some concrete examples of Tolkien's writings that one could say he supports the superiority of the white race. And please, none of this shit about orcs being black skinned. They came in many colors. Are you aware that Barliman Butterbur was descended from the race of dark skinned Easterlings? So much for only the Southrons being evil. Are you aware of the fallen Numenoreans who were as lilly white as my butt cheeks? I have a veritable cornucopia of material that will refute any of your ridiculous assertions about Tolkien being a racist. Bring it on my friend.

is a bull dyke in love with ScarJo. What a pathetic lesbo.

Does your mommy's head still hurt where Orcus banged his cock on the side of it?

he could hurt my mommy with his limp dick. <p> you know there are products that can help your affliction. Save your rimjob money.