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Optimus: Clearer And Upper Closer!!


Merrick here…


We’ve previously seen images of Optimus Prime from the TRANSFORMERS movie…HERE and HERE for example.

Some folks complained that they couldn’t get a better look at details, or his face in the previous images. So, we thought you’d like a better look…clearer and upper closer…including his face…in what I *presume* are combat mode and standard mode, or something to that effect?

The body shots are, simply, clearer shots of what we've already seen. The face is new, as far as I know. It'll be interesting to see how this looks when animated. I'm wondering how/IF people's perspectives on these designs will change once they see them "alive" & in motion?

As I’ve said before, this dude reminds me of MEGAS XLR…which is an issue unto itself. I stared at this image for a while, trying to make out the flame “ribs” Quint talked about with Michael Bay in HIS RECENT ARTICLE. I see the idea they were going for, although I’m not sure if it works (in terms of accentuation).

Also, I’m having a bit of trouble understanding how toys with such awkward skeletal frameworks will actually be able to transform. I mean, a kid could sever fingers trying to shove all of these protrusions back under the hood of a semi. ‘Twould be a strange irony indeed if a movie based on toys called “Transformers” was supported by a toy line that didn’t transform. If anyone out there knows how this is going to work out, drop me a line!











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  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Too Soon!!!

    by Admiral_Kirk

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST

    SECOND

    by nef

    BITCHES

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus= Jugg Fuckled

    by ZombieChrisReeve

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Meh...

    by Blartifartass

    Hate the face, his eyes look like those retarded sons of Toms from Tom Goes to the Mayor

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Merrick...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Is this a photograph of the actual "toy"? Or is this a CGI rendering? The head/face doesn't really look like the other images and near-images we've seen so far. Hmmm...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    I refuse to try to declare FIRST!

    by Jak0lantern01

    Anyway, wow, it's as we've seen before, just clearer. I'll wait for the critic reviews before dropping my $$$$ on this one.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    cool enough....

    by rotten666

    I'm keeping an open mind. Although megatron don't look too cool. I'll postpone judgement until I see the flick.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Hrmm...

    by Shepard Bauer

    I dunno... DEFINATELY don't see the ribs deal. He does look extremely massive, which is awesome, and the back view, well, they have to put all that mass of the cab somewhere, so I'm fine with the body work... not a huge fan of the head, but I'm willing to go with it... I'm finaly resigned to the fact that this is not the Transformers I grew up with. Hopefully this movie will rock on its own. All the characters look awesome but different. My emotions have been upgraded from dejected/hopefull to mixed/hopefull/slightly numb. I don't like his colors but Bay will get my $8...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Good Lord!!! Prime has an "x-treme" goatee!!!

    by moondoggy2u

    To say nothing of chicken feet or prison tats...Pimp My Prime in all his x-treme glory!!!No wonder Megatron is hates him;)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Oh, wait, I didn't see the head shots

    by Jak0lantern01

    Eh, leave the damn 'battle mask' on the whole time. With a mug like that, how is he supposed to emote? Wasn't that the thing? Sorry, but they're not Transformers. GoBots from hell maybe, but definitely not TF's.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Egyptian eyes.......

    by tile_mcgillus

    His eyes look like they are referencing Egyptian heirogylphics or droopy the dog. The flames........sad face 5000.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by bollhatergc

    we've come a long way since we first saw him as a purple flaming truck...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Looks like the Zord from the first Power Ranger movie

    by Retlaw Kciuq

    Don't know if that's a good thing; depends on which fanboy you ask.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    All of this was STOLEN from Firefly

    by Darth_Baltar

    ...or at least that would be the claim of the Whedonites.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:32 p.m. CST

    FYI...

    by McTitties

    He will transform via his special, built-in CUNTFLAPS.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Nice ass

    by blackwood

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST

    hahaa bad crap

    by foree forehead

    he has some kind of snout.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    He looks like he's drunk!

    by aphextwin

    Yesp too much booz will make your eyes sleepy and your face dumb and indifferent. I 'kinda'like the body work, but as mentioned, how the hell could that transform into a hillbilly longnosetruck with those pimp flames. Let me say this: that is not a face of a strong leader!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    For all the rabid fanboys upset that Harry has not

    by Lando Griffin

    declared an AICN jihad against your Holy Transformers its because A) Jihad has only been declared against Fox and Ratner to a lesser degreee (although now that X3 has come and gone it lies solely on FOX) and B) Harry actually likes Bays work

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Another week, another Transformers TB...

    by Ricky Henderson

    Seriously, I can't take any more disappointment. I'm not coming to AICN unless they stop posting Miachel Bay propaganda. Stop trying to convince us that this movie has potential. It just doesn't.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Lando Duchin

    by Aintitshot

    NO- Tom Desanto owns this site I ahve told you before

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Prime Looks Badass

    by Atomica

    How freakin' cool. I cannot wait until next summer. 20 Years of hoping for a Live Action Transformers Movie are about to come tro fruition. Screw the Naysayers, this Prime kicks ass.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    his eyes are too low

    by The_Boo

    seriously, that's creepy. I could do without the flames, but can deal. Those eyes on the other hand are fugly

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    is that a nose and a mouth?

    by dale dragon

    or am I just looking at the picture a bit weird. yeah, I havent been the one to complain about any of this, Im a huge transformer fan, but I understand changes... but he kind of looks like he has down syndrome

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Merrick--the toys will be much simpler

    by Ricky Henderson

    The whole toyline won't have that kind of articulation. They'll just be more squarelike and easier to transform. Not that I care much since I'm skipping this whole disaster altogether.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Hey Optimus, why the long face?

    by Horseflesh

    HAAA! Jumped the Sharkticon!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Ricky - skipping this disaster...

    by blackwood

    ...and yet, you're still in every talkback.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Horseflesh

    by blackwood

    HA! You shined that ol' penny up nice.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:44 p.m. CST

    he has the face of a Beagle

    by chickychow

    I just want Optimus to curl up beside me on the porch so I can pat his head.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    He looks amazing!!!

    by Orionsangels

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    It's on likely Donkey Kong in the Vern vs CHAOS talkbak

    by muscelyarm

    Vern vs the CHAOS DVD is the greatest talkback of all time.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    he looks like a pissed off goat..

    by torpor_haze

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    His name should be Optimus Vin Diesel...

    by solartaco3

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    he looks like he plays in a band

    by behind blue eyes

    I wish I looked like I played in a band...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Im going to be there opening weekend...

    by tile_mcgillus

    I won't pay to see it, I will do the pay for anything else and walk into transformers. Just to Hear Cullen's voice come out of the closest thing we ever get to Prime. Its so close to awesome...just get rid of the goddamn flames!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    his eyes

    by Bouncy X

    his eyes sorta look like the eye from the poster...so maybe people were right in saying that was prime after all

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Too Fast, Tooransformers!

    by Horseflesh

    Tokyo Rift!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Ever seen Hollow Man...

    by pandamaster83

    when Kevin Bacon is only half-invisible and you see him without any skin? This is what he reminds me of. He needs covering up.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    It becomes harder for me...

    by JThomasC

    to cling so desperately to my childhood in a pathetic fashion as it continues to be @$$ raped. I may have to grow up now. This is seriously gonna mess up my mid life crisis, instead of trips to Toys R Us thinly veiled as outings for me and my son, instead I'll most likely have to buy some lame ass convertible sports car I can't afford and have affairs with barely legal women. Man this sucks.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Limp Bizkit soul patches are very popular on Cybertron

    by Bryan

    I don't think it's actually a matter of faithfulness, it's a matter of bad design. These things just look stupid. I am not very attached to Transformers and might go along with the "so what if it's not Transformers, these are cool robots!" argument if they were, in fact, cool robots. But come on, man. Every design they've released has been ugly as shit, way too busy and lacking in personality. I'm sure these designers are all talented, but they're being sent in the wrong direction. Look at all of the cumbersome, unneccessary detail on that pile of garbage, and then imagine what a poor judge of design you have to be to THEN decide that it needs fucking flames added to it! Your eye doesn't know where to go on these still images, so imagine how confusing they will be when combined with Michael Bay's editing style! I've always wondered why somebody hasn't done a giant robot movie since the dawning of CGI, but I guess I will have to wait a while longer for an actual good one. (Well, I haven't seen that Gigantor movie yet, maybe that one's good.) That said, the American Godzilla style lack of recognizability compounds the terrible designs quite a bit. These clearer pictures actually make it look worse because from a distance it seemed like the head was recognizable as Optimus but now that you can see the eyes and mouth (!) he seems to have a completely different personality. And I still think the idea that they have to have pupils to emote is both ignorant and an insult to the animators working on the movie.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    MEGAS XLR

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    And I don't get this reference do to the fact that Megas XLR looks like a low-rent TF rip-off to me.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    So close to awesome

    by tile_mcgillus

    oh I forgot to put fix the chicken feet, goatee, eyes, no armor, too much insides, visual clutter and ,of course, teh flames! Fix all that and bam its prime...wait that's a lot of stuff isn't it?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Blackwood, re: "skipping this disaster"

    by Ricky Henderson

    I don't like where this movie is going so I want to express how concerned I am. I don't think that's a contradiction. Please, what else would all the posters on AICN talkbacks do if they didn't have something to bitch about?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST

    AWESOME!

    by googamooga

    Haters SUCK IT.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Very smart comment Mr MERRICK

    by Ashen Shugar

    Indeed. I can not believe the brains at HASBRO have validated such a complex Optimus. Even if you can expect nice tranformations, no toy can be so complicated, with sharp and small pieces. As the head, it looks so bland, as if OPTIMUS was on laudanum. One question : Did the smart guys with the Citroen commercial ever paid one dime to Hasbro for their very nice rip-off of TRANSFORMERS ?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1 p.m. CST

    you're absolutely right, Ricky

    by moondoggy2u

    Why, there are even TB'ers who bitch about bitching!!! Hang 'em all, I always say, and let G-d sort them out!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:01 p.m. CST

    MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.

    by Truth0ne

    MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I don't understand the headshots

    by jackinitraw

    Is that supposed to be how he looks when he talks or something? His mouth opens sideways like a Chinese vagina? I believe the Megatron mouth had a similar sideways Chinese vagina design. The more I see of this the more excited I am to watch Michael Bay follow up a disaster like The Island with a new level of disaster. It makes sense to have his career end in an explosion of sorts.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST

    "I was thinking about putting flames on my house...

    by tile_mcgillus

    and my car, and my bike, and the cups I drink out of, and my TV and my pants and I really considering getting flames tattooed on my dick...I just think it sends the right message, I have a hot man rod that is burning for your love Megatron." direct quote from Optimus Prime

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    No humanity

    by BV

    And by that I mean...there's no humanity in that face.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Looks like General Greivous

    by Aust1n

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Baytimus Prime kicks Geektrons ass, bitch!!!

    by German_Geekster

    But the face looks shitty, liked the earlier design of the head.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    jackinitraw ROFL

    by tile_mcgillus

    I had no fucking clue that chinese vaginas were ugly and full of shiny robot mouths...thats awesome!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Coming along nicely

    by Mits777

    He definitely looks better than i thought he was gonna look but i still have this feeling this is gonna suck hard. Time to shill as some of yall say. Check out this awesome review site. http:tinyurl.com/pv8do

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Five To Eleven More Things...

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    Just wanted to post the in another place to make sure it got seen, cause I think we're misplacing some of our anger on this. -- We can spot a plant. Yes it's true. From their generic screen names (yea, mine's no better), to their correctly punctuated, or overly mispelled drivel, to their constant arguments, or decrees of giving it a chance till you see it, or their general calling out, and daring you to like it strageties, we are usually able to see through their muck of shit. If anything, thinking that a studio is pathetic enough to send us an Aintitshot, or moto, only pisses and turns us off to the movie even more, for A) thinking they can outsmart us, and B) being pathetic enough to stoop low enough to admit what a piece of shit it really is by needing plants for it in the first place. -- The person whom I think we should be pissed off at the most however, is not the two obvious sacks of shit, Bay and Murphy, but Speilberg. He has 20 times the clout of these jokers, and if he wanted something, or cared enough about this property, he would have had these crapola designs, and script changed long, long ago. But he doesn't. He's almost as corrupt as these two douche bags, he just happens to have talent, albeit dwindling talent.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:10 p.m. CST

    See you on opening day, SnakesOnABicycle!

    by googamooga

    Signed, NOT A PLANT

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Prime feels like prime

    by Cory849

    I know prime doesnt look like G1 Optimus Prime but I cant help but feel that when I look at this design and know that the original voice actor will be used, that this design certainly feels like Optimus Prime. I think they caught his essence very very well. Having read the script, I still think its way too much about the humans, the plot is capture the flag and is basically crap, and all in all it is a pretty cheesy basic hollywood braindead summer pic but my problem really isnt with the designs. Well except for megatron. but that goes without saying. Incidentally, megatron looks awesome. He just doesnt look like megatron. Still though - awesome looking scary bad guy robot design.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Concept Art

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I think if you compare this image with the image from the convention poster (w/ gun), you'll find that this is a concept rendering. There are subtle differences between the two - primarily the head, eyes, and feet. The poster image looks sleeker and less clunky. More importantly, it hints at a much better designed face/head with possibly glowing, yellow eyes. I'm gonna go on record and say that the poster image is much closer to the finished product we will see in the film. Most of you catz probably won't care though...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Why can't they have regular, moving mouths like

    by Jak0lantern01

    every single incarnation that came before? If we can get nano-whatevers allowing them to morph at will, why can't this same concept apply to moving mouths? Plotholes galore with this one. Oh, and actors that are given full, free reign in their acting. How about that cute chick they hired as the 'love interest' that can't act. "Act scared", her shoulders go up. "No, really, act SCARED", shoulders go up higher, perhaps a hint of shudder. Geeze, she better get naked in this movie, for it sounds like that's all her part is worth. Episode 1 style acting. They must have all gone to the same school.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Transformers will suck ass.

    by brycemonkey

    You know it will. I was excited until I heard it was Bay directing and I saw the pictures that either look like crap normal cars or cheap plastic toys. Haters unite!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:15 p.m. CST

    LOOKS GREAT!!

    by shakermakerman

    So stop whining..

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:16 p.m. CST

    RE: moto

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    If memory serves me, I think that guy has been on AICN for a long time. Doesn't necessarily disprove the idea that he may be a longserving corporate agent though...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:16 p.m. CST

    The toy will Fail, just like Beast Machines

    by Squashua

    Back in the day they did Beast Machines. And somehow they designed these characters for the show and didn't consult the toy manufacturer. So absolutely NONE of the toys looked anything like the show characters, and the show characters transformed in such a fashion that it would have been near impossible to create toys. At some point they finally did make near-show-accurate toys, but ended up being way-too-little, way-too-late.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:16 p.m. CST

    looks too busy

    by reckni

    but what the Hell do I know?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Looks awesome!

    by One Voice

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    also, is this the official site for bay's transformers?

    by reckni

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by tile_mcgillus

    I think you might be right. That blurry ass pic honestly did have more weight and character than this. I went into that pic and took out the flames and thought it looked pretty good. Here is the pic. http://tinyurl.com/gsuju

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST

    shakermakerman

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    is obviously getting tired of signing on and off his different screen names, having to put his password in each time, remember which one goes with moto, or Aintitshot, all while having to bring Bay his coffee and coke. Cokeheads!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Well, I knew there was a problem

    by Jak0lantern01

    when Spielberg was indicating wanting to go back to the feel of the Back to the Future movies. Not that I don't like BTTF, love it, but TF is not BTTF. It's war, and a fairly brutal, unrelenting war at that. Both sides decimated and a world ravaged (Cybertron). But it's going to be lighthearted family fare. OK. How about casting Nickelodeon's 14 year old cast in the sequel to Private Ryan, and call it a family film. I'm not saying that I'm expecting a bloody or excessively violent TF film, it's just not BTTF. By the way, my first car did nothing but break down, not the greatest experience.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Boo hoo fucking hoo

    by deadlegend

    Prime looks about as badass as he can get. Start throwing all his original armor on, and he'll like like a fucking live-action toy. These designs are badass. BADASS I TELL YOU! When the Power Rangers movie was made, they changed their costumes and changed the look of the megazords. And if any of you bitches think Transformers were at any time more popular than the Power Rangers, then you're out of your fucking element. Power Rangers was twice the show Transformers was, and is still on the air. If they could improve by changing the look of the PRs, then the same will work for a live-action TFs. PERIOD BITCHES.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Looks very cool, BUT...

    by ZombiKiller86

    how the hell are they gonna make a toy that can transform into THAT? There's a shit load of detail there, and I'm not sure if it's entirely possible.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:22 p.m. CST

    How long before some photoshop geek recolors the pic?

    by IMMORTAL-1

    You know it's coming.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Tile

    by Jak0lantern01

    that recolored Prime looks much better, no question. KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:25 p.m. CST

    tile_mcgillus

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Nice job. Although the flames don't really bother me, I don't buy the "ribs" excuse. I'd rather they just say that when they went with the Peterbilt/semi design, the solid red & blue looked too plain. No. Instead we get "ribs". Wha? *** Thanks for taking a closer look at the poster image, too.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:27 p.m. CST

    How come...

    by Cory849

    How come star trek is allowed to indiscriminately change the uniforms anytime they want? I never hear anyone bitch about that.... Oh, more importantly - I have to agree that optimus looks much better without the flames based on this rendering that tile_McGillus else already linked above. http://tinyurl.com/gsuju

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Also googamooga

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    you reverse psychology has confused me, so I guess I will see you on opening day. I'll be pulling up in my new SUV, the one with flames on the side. And Megatron's mouth is starting to make me horny. And Shaia's "stappler's will burn your face off" comments have given me something to think about. Like, I wonder how many slaves the Bay family has owned, and am I a piece of shit... cause he probably is right. Where am I?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Full Disclosure Time

    by repus3000

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Bad ass!

    by decypher44

    I never had an issue with OP's design. This looks really good. The script blows ass, but I like this look.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST

    repus, good points

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    and the whole "site maitenence/updating" thing, that really resulted in NO new features, but a mysterious loss of the "Hi I'm Megatron" talk back, that was obvious a giant gleaming pile of shit that the studio had to whiff, and know that lots of people were seeing and agreeing how bad this movie looks.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Prime Looks Awesome! Can't wait to see him in Action

    by ganymede2010

    You fucking whinners.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Uh, SnakesOnABicycle...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Look over to your right. The Megatron TB is still in full swing.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    ...and another thing...

    by repus3000

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Not badass!

    by KnightJustice

    Michael Bay keeps raping this franchise. I'm a G1 guy and this thing just looks nothing like the Optimus we know and love.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:39 p.m. CST

    that megatron tb is back now

    by tile_mcgillus

    I thought the same thing at first.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:40 p.m. CST

    repeat this over and over again...

    by Flux_brown

    TINO TINO TINO....

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    repus3000

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Just two things: Hasbro owns the rights to the franchise. Their goal is to make more money off of new toys. If they want to redesign classic characters from 20 years ago because they want to hook a whole new generation on their product, who are we to argue? (The end result may just be that they lose their fans from 20+ years ago.) Second: Godzilla didn't bomb because of the design, it bombed because it was STUPID.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    All I gott say is.... Bay's head on a stick!!

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Wow, what a talentless hack! He's fucking up something so simple!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    mr, nice

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    I had checked a few times the last few days and the Megatron talkback was completely empty. There goes my grassy knoll theory. At least shits like ganymede can keep me paranoid. Mmm paranoid.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:49 p.m. CST

    SnakesOnABicycle

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I can understand that. No doubt the TB was "empty" because it had essentially run out of steam (despite that fact that it resurfaced today).

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Face it, NOTHING would please you fuckers

    by performingmonkey

    I'm not saying it's an excellent design, but even if it was the coolest design ever you would still go out of your way to comment on it's shitness, how Bay is raping your 10-year-old ass harder than Lucas, well fuck you all.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST

    We could already tell it was bad design ...

    by veritasses

    when it was small. Making it big doesn't change anyone's opinion.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Where the hell does he store the matrix of leadership??

    by DarthMartel

    Nimrods didn't think of that. Apparently they failed to read up on their Transformers lore.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I'm glad you fucktards hate the designs

    by ganymede2010

    Less stupid ass people to wait in line behind. Go and play with your Spiderman toys tranfanboi's!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Wow, the new Transformers pic of the day.

    by The Heathen

    I'm already sick of it and I've got about 10 more months of this stuff. Yay. That said, I hope the movie is fun and ra ra, but after hearing how the bots would be kept 'secret' for the fans to freak out over more, well, there's been pics every day. Bah.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    WOW That looks FUCKING TERRIBLE!!!

    by jabberwookie

    I just get angrier and angrier every time I see this kind of shit. It looks like Optimus is on his way to a ho down for some moonshine, and line dancing. If i ever come across micheal bay in real life I will throw hot coffee in his fucking face.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    and Optimus looks like a monkey...

    by veritasses

    or gorilla.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    by LV

    That isnt his real head. look at the recent rendering from that poster with prime and his big silver gun. the head is different compared with these pics, which frankly look retarded. that head shot that leaked just after that early rendering of his arm was MILES better , even tho the eyes were blanked out but from that and the recent leaks i can tell this head and that one are not the same. so don't fret people, he ain't gonna look like a retardicon(i luv adult swim:)) flames are still in for the long haul. o yeah, and these pics also relate to that other leak were the truck has a "scoop" above the grill....thsi shit is old man, leaks are so bad when they release the wrong shit and confuse everyone and make them bitch.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:58 p.m. CST

    all your transformers pics here:

    by all your base

    all the leaked pics so far including prime, megatron, starscream, ratchet, jazz, bumblebee, scorpinok, and blackout. http://tinyurl.com/ge7ly

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2 p.m. CST

    Well, as badly as Bay & Co. keep...

    by Childe Roland

    ...fucking up the pre-release buzz generation with all their justification and excuse-making, I'm still pretty satisfied with this Prime design. This with Cullen's voice will be enough to get me to rent this. A well cut trailer might push me into matinee territory. If they change that Megatron design and get Welker to voice him, I may well pay full price...just to see if it turns out to be any good.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    oh stfu Ganymede...

    by Ricky Henderson

    That Regina woman got banned from AICN, and with the way you've been posting, you'll be next very soon. Stop trolling in TF talkbacks, we're sick of your nonsense.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Its in the eyes

    by BRUTICUS

    Uhh ever heard of IT'S IN THE EYES? That is NOT Optimus' face!! What is the problem??? That is not his stance either. Go back and watch the cartoons PLEASE.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    ....wha? People don't like it?

    by MemBirdman

    I think the potential is great! C'mon, fanboys...remember how Optimus was first created. Transcom 1 scanned machines and repaired the Autobots in their likenesses. And considering that the ship crashed in some desert supposedly in the US (likely New Mexico/Arizona area), how unrealistic is Transcom 1 to scan a semi with that paint job?! It's pretty realistic and I'm waiting to see how it all comes together.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    I ain't no pussy Thenedain!!!

    by Hairy Nutsack

    800 frames of new video rendering now as we speak. I'll spend the rest of today adding music and sound effects. Should have it up on YouTube late today, early tomorrow. **Shameless Plug** In the meantime everyone go see my original - http://youtube.com/watch?v=WRAcwQagxhU

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Less stupid people waiting in line for a BAY movie??

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    lasting impressions

    by repus3000

    Never said that Godzilla bombed out because of the design alone

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    just when I thought it couldnt get worse than Flames...

    by jabberwookie

    THEY FUCKED WITH HIS FUCKING EYES!!!! HOW HARD IS IT TO GIVE OPTIMUS FUCKING SLITS FOR HIS EYES AND BLUEISH GLOW EMMINATING FROM THEM? THERE IS NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR THAT!! NO FUCKING EXCUSE AT ALL!!! YOU SAY... 'WE WANT IT TO LOOK MORE REALISTIC, GIVE HIM DEFINITION OF RIBS WITH THE FLAMES, WE SAY HE NEEDS TO LOOK REALISTIC WHEN HE TRANSFORMS SO CHANGE THE VEHICLE SLIGHTLY...AND THE EYES WE JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG MIDDLE FINGER TO THE FANS" THE FLAMES ARE FUCKIN RIDICULOUS, BUT I CAN TOTALLY DIG CHANGING THE TRUCK FOR REALISM... THE KEY IS REALISM.. HOW THE FUCK DOES GIVING OPTIMUS HUMAN LOOKING EYES FIT INTO REALISM??? HE'S A FUCKING ROBOT!!! A FUCKING GOD DAMN FUCKING ROBOT... WHAT DO MOST ROBOT'S EYES LOOK LIKE??? FUCKING SLITS WITH LIGHT EMINATING FROM THEM... NOT HEIROGLYPHICS!! YOU FUCKING IDIOTS FUCK YOU MICHEAL BAY FUCK YOU IN YOUR FUCKING ASS!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    What Makes No Real Sense...

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    is why there's so much plant activity here. The movie is almost a year away from release. Any positive or negative momentum will be lost well before then. Since they don't give a shit about the old fans, why try to convince them? The dollar, of course would be the most obvious reason, but it seems like they don't understand that they're doing more harm than good defending it. See: everything Don Murphy has done. Someone mentioned earlier the film had a lot more going for it when no one knew anything. I know most of this back and forth came from supposedly leaked pics of a shitty looking Bumblebee, but at the same time I think no response, would have been a better response from these no-talent hack flacks. Sure we can all expect a glowing "great but flawed, had fun with it anyway!" review from Harry, but even the studios should know most regular AICN-ers take his opinion with a grain of salt anyway. So I can understand Harry's non-stance on the film. What I can't, is every other writer, especially Moriarty, and Mass. Wasn't that guy brought in by Harry to be the bad guy, aka honest one? To Harry, and the rest, the people who you're not giving the time of day to; Transformers fans (most AICN regulars), are still the people most likely to frequent this site, long after this turd is flushed in the Summer of 2007. We already hate Bay, and his dingle berry infested patch of ass hair, otherwise known as Don Murphy. Why make us hate you too? We're the ones that go to your amazon.com links after all.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Ha! I think it will take a lot more than that to get ol' gany banned.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST

    WOW

    by adonais

    Retarded. I can't think of any other word for this design but utterly retarded.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:14 p.m. CST

    It Stinks!

    by Xeniten

    Ugh.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Hey I can dream, MNG...

    by Ricky Henderson

    I was just happy to see that awful Regina person get banned for being incredibly offensive in the Steve Irwin talkback. How long has Ganymede been here for? It feels like she's a recent addition (ie, plant)... But then again, I've only been posting since the spring, so perhaps I'm misstaken.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:16 p.m. CST

    STFU Ricky We no how you feel

    by ganymede2010

    We know you hate Prime. We know you hate Bay, we know you hate Megs, we know you hate Starscream. Why in the fuck are you still here? Get the fuck out If you hate the movie this bad. We're tired of hearing your infinite whinning little boy.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    WELL

    by THE KNIGHT

    BATMAN'S NIPPLES EQUALS FLAMES ON OTIMPUSS!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    i cant stand his eyes

    by Flux_brown

    they look like they belong on a fuckin' totem pole...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:19 p.m. CST

    So you've given us a clearer image of a turd.

    by Frankenblogger

    And what I'm starting to get really annoyed about is the whole "eh. I don't really like it but I'll still go see the movie" comments. Show these fuckers in Hollywood that you mean business and DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON THIS SHIT. DON'T BUY THE DVD OR RENT IT. We're DONE with this movie.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST

    gaymanede

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    I'm not tired of hearing from Ricky. Hell, I'm not even tired of hearing from you (for a different reason), being that people/boggers like you feed the flame of what these talkbacks are for. Fighting. Without your bad taste, and unoriginal, studio apologizing, drivel, we wouldn't have anyone to make fun of execpt folks like Don Murphy, and how they talk like Donald Duck. On coke.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Since this movie is Drivel why waste your time on it?

    by ganymede2010

    I mean it's not the movie you want, why post hundreds of messages about it? Boycott the movie. Don't post about it, don't go see, and don't support it in any way. It works for me when I don't like a movie.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus is like flames on

    by brokebackcowboy

    Any motor vehicle. Stupid. Stickers don't make them go faster! Is Optimus a hybrid vehicle and does it have low emissions? Hello.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Yikes, you're an awful human being Ganymede

    by Ricky Henderson

    Seriously, screaming at people to shut up when they have an opinion that is contrary to your own really isn't very mature. And you're completely wrong I dont hate Prime, as you suggested. I just have issues with the Michael Bay version of Prime. Big different smarty-pants. I don't hate the movie, I just think it is sad what has happened to it because there was really great potential there. All the designs look pretty impressive really. The only problem is they're not transformers. Don't accuse me of hating anything--the only one here on the TB who is full of hate is you Ganymede. Begone. Man you're a shrill girl.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I'm not entirely sure of TBer "manipulation" but something does feel amiss. AICN has been getting these "leaks" well in advance of the sites that are devoted ONLY to everything Transformers. I now believe they have contacts within the production who are either taking chances with material or they are being instructed to strategically reveal materials to gauge a response. The primary clue for this is in the Megatron design. AICN displayed the images provided by "Etienne" - a source known to Merrick. Then "Etienne" requested that the images be removed...NOT the studio. Why the studio has requested that some images be removed (i.e. the first images of Prime's truckform, the Bumblebee model, etc.) and not others remains a mystery. Now, we've got this new rendering of Prime right on the heels of the convention poster image. It appears to have the same shading and texturing as the Megatron images. Someone is definitely giving AICN the dish and the Haters are eating it up.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    "Hey I can dream, MNG..."

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Apparently, so can ganymede2010! ;-)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    As long as we're all piling our 2 cents onto this shit

    by finky089

    Might as well go with the old stanby, cuz I'm just too tired to bother rehashing how this movie has become the epitome of "FUCKED UP."

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    gaymenede - It also works for me...

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    to not do what shitstains like yourself say or "suggest". Don't you have more fun on the Rush Limbaugh message boards? You seem to like agreeing, and are easily upset by dissenting opinions... wouldn't you be more comfortable just letting Fox News entertain you... and Walmart clothe you?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Transformers In Name Only!

    by finky089

    TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO! TINO!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    what the script has right(spoiler alert)

    by Staldo

    Seriously, have any real fans of the show read the script? Yes, the first 45 pages read like some lost 70's Knight Rider spinoff (or this Kroft show I haven't seen)but the script begins and ENDS with the most in-character ,epic Optimus Prime proselytizing I've read since the original comic. Anybody who has ever read a single TF comic, or seen a single episode of the series, knows Optimus basically spoke as if he was the giant robot version of Gandalf, and he is pitch perfect. Megatron's characterization is quite a bit more evil than the series, if that were possible. In the script, he is essentially the transformers' version of Sauron, an intense, looming threat who can essentially tear all that is good out of his fellow beings and pervert it to the blackest evil. Sounds good to me, the kind of villain that Michael Bay would identify with. If you followed the old series or comics at all, you would realize that the plot quickly snowballed from a few robots fighting on Earth to a galactic-scale epic, and the script essentially sets that up with the last lines. The script writers' knowledge of Cybertronian geography is pretty incredible as well. THE TORUS STATES OF PRAXUS are referenced for christ sakes. ] Please tell me there are other people who read the script and saw glimmers of hope in it. I know will be there opening day with popcorn and smuggled-in Goodbar bites just to see what was done with the cool ideas that have been scattered amongst the crap, (similar to my attitude about the Star Wars prequels), and hope to god that Shia LeBouf wasn't given too much creative control.(see his interview)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Yeah MNG, they're testing the waters with these pics

    by Ricky Henderson

    Because how hard is it to change a CG character's design? This is the third different version of Prime we've seen and there are some subtle differences between all three (color schemes, level of detail, articulation, etc). So who's to say the people at Paramount/Dreamworks aren't leaking these pics to AICN and other sites on purpose to gague fan reaction? They know perfectly well these designs can be changed and maybe they will based on fan response. That would eliminate the need for people like Ganymede to promote the film all day long on AICN...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Bay was clearly full of it with the "ribs" justificatio

    by IndustryKiller

    Because those flames don't represent ribs. He should just admit he thought it would be cool to go the EXTREME!!! route with Optimus. Well he was wrong, it looks ridiculous, so change it. It's not too late. don't be an arrogant prick just change the fucking paint. Do they have any concept of how much good will they would build up with that simple act?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:34 p.m. CST

    by Flux_brown

    but then they'll probably see people like ganymede's reaction and consider it positive feedback, an excuse to go ahead with their dastardly plans....

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST

    flame war city

    by tile_mcgillus

    Just stop guys. Agree to disagree. Gaynemede and Snakes both of you have made your opinions very clear, just as I have. The reason we are still here is that we like talking about movies and all have enjoyed Transformers in the past. I loved Little Miss Sunshine but you don't see me posting hundred posts on its Tb about how sweet it is. The only person who shouldnt be here is me, because I getting paid a lot of money to make a graphic standards manual and am critiquing a movie a year away instead (alright Im almost done and just pacing myself on the GSM). Anyway, what if those eyes light up? Could they not look like egyptian shit?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Shut the fuck up, hating bitches

    by deadlegend

    Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. SHUT THE FUCK UP, HATING BITCHES!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Ricky

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    I agree that this seems like what the studio's trying to do, but it's the way the do it that pisses most people off, and inturn gives them the shittest response. I mean, imagine it, if a head of the studio was OPENLY sent these in, without leaking, and OPENLY asked the fans for their opinions. Not only would it give the impression that they CARED what we thought, but would give them a clearer idea of what we thought, instead of this muddled/paranoid (however rightfully so) response that they're getting now. They can't handle, or even have a concept of honesty. That's why. Oh, I just answered my own question.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    He looks like he was designed by West Coast Choppers

    by rev_skarekroe

    Or he was contestant on Pimp My Bot or something.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    ass

    by Staldo

    Knight rider was an 80's series. I'm stupid. Also Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang was the original Transformer. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Hey, Ricky Henderson...

    by googamooga

    You criticize gany for telling people with negative opinions to stfu, but then in a previous post, you tell him you hope he gets banned. Why? Because he's looking forward to the movie and you're not? What a great human being YOU are.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:42 p.m. CST

    If Optimus Prime is a pimp than Bumblebee is his hoe

    by tile_mcgillus

    It is interesting that we are receving sooooooooo much stuff over a year in advance, i mean they havent even done the digital work yet. Their still shooting for christ's sakes...so there is hope. I really though how much hatred would we have to spew in order to get them to change. Remember CAtwoman......no one liked it and they didn't change it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Tile

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    What I do, and what gaymenede does, are two very different things. I try to EXPRESS my opinion (and I'll do it as much as I want, thanks) and gaymenede tries to SUPPRESS everyone else's, albeit in the most unconvincing "Shut the fuck up, haters!" kind of way. And I hope it doesn't stop, and I hope more people aren't as SEEMINGLY level headed as you, cause it makes for bad entertainment. And let's face it, that's what we're here for.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:45 p.m. CST

    "Who the fuck is this Autobot?"

    by photoboy

    Quote stolen from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y Bay's Optimus Prime is a total traversty. It's unbelievable how completely shit they've made this film.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:45 p.m. CST

    tile_mcgillus

    by Flux_brown

    and oddly enough, up till a month ago, this project was top secret! does anybody remember bay saying nobody'll get to see the robots untill opening day? WTF happened??!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST

    besides the flames

    by The Only Woj

    I can definitely live with this. he was too thin in those concept drawings, these seems to have bulked him up. I like it. I'd like it more without the flames, but I like it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Which dead legend...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Which dead legend is deadlegend anyway? I'm going to go with Liberace, with Freddy Mercury vying for second place. Other possibilities - Rock Hudson and Rip Taylor.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Yep I'm an Awful Human Being!

    by ganymede2010

    I love this movie. Go Michael Bay! Your track record speaks for itself. Megatron is awesome so is Prime and I LOVE that Jazz is a solistice. Muhahahahahaha

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    WTF, how can you like THAT?? It's a shitobot!

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Looks like a robot got raped by a fucking Unicron sized blender!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Snakesonatransformer

    by tile_mcgillus

    I am level-headed but I recognize suck when I see it. I posted this in the Megatron TB several days ago: "This movie is evidence of the epidemic of apathy and complacency that is acrossed the nation. The filmmakers are suspecting that the average uninformed viewer will love this movie. I mean this formulaic script mimics some of the most successful movies of the past decade. THey will use the excuse that people just want to be entertained. THat is an excuse. It is the simple fact that they are appealing to the lowest common denominator. THink about it. Art and politics have always, through the entire span of history, only been accessable to the educated or higher class. Up until now art has always appealed to the highest intellect and portion of society. Until the last century when consumerism actually became profitable did this shift. We are in anew situation. TO me this is why art galleries are viewed as aristocratic and pompous, because they refuse to lower their art to the lowest common denominator. They ask their audience to think, something that is resented in this society. To me this is traced back to our constantly diminishing education standards. As the popolous becomes less and less informed (but with more tools then ever to be informed) society continues to lower its standards. THe average layman is now the target of our media formats. This is due to the fact that the largest segment of our populous is the lower and lower middle class, in areas where education is the worst. Our society is shifting to focus its efforts on these people. This shift is causing our culture to be dumbed down. So the filmmakers are focusing on these people instead of making quality product, they will make product that they believe will sell. I hold no illusions that cinema isnt about money but true artists of cinema have forgone this systemic problem by making unfiltered films. THere is a saying that no one has ever gone hungry underestimating the intelligence of the american public. I resent this. I resent that we are constantly underestimated and demeaned in our culture by the people in power (politics, media etc). This movei is a prime example of this problem. Instead of asking their audience to open their minds and elevate themselves, the director/producers/financeers are dumbing down this film to make money. It is the plain old 3 day cash dash. Something I have come to resent. If you make something that is phenomenal...it will find its audience. In no way do I think less of the any average human being, just the people in control who stereotype them (i referenced this earlier). Anyway, Michael Bay can suck my dick."

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    To Flux_brown

    by Frankenblogger

    <and oddly enough, up till a month ago, this project was top secret! does anybody remember bay saying nobody&#39;ll get to see the robots untill opening day? WTF happened??!> LEAKED pictures and script happened and then the shitstorm from fans.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Dead Legend is really Don Simpson&#39;s ghost.

    by Ricky Henderson

    I&#39;m not even sure if that&#39;s witty or clever, but screw it, its late in the afternoon and I&#39;m posting it anyway. And Googamooga, you&#39;re right, my first post to Ganymede was a little out of line. What can I say? Plants like her drive me nuts...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Flux

    by tile_mcgillus

    That just rings of WTF? We have basically seen all the transformers, read the script and passed judgment and these MFers are still filming. This is weird city 5000. Either A> they care and are going to change. B> there are just serious leaks destroying the whole "keep it secret, keep it safe" or C> they want us to burn out early so when it does come out we are bitching up storm. Think Snakes on a Plane but in reverse. We hate on it so much people are afraid to go see it. So if we bitch ourselves out now a year from now we wont care anymore.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    Re: Bay&#39;s track record?

    by Frankenblogger

    Hello?!? Pearl Harbor? Bad Boys II? The Island? You call this a good track record? His last three films SUCKED. In fact, I&#39;d go so far as tto say the only GOOD movie he&#39;s done is The Rock. And even then I may be pushing it simply because of the hilarious fucking outtakes of Ed Harris from the Criterion DVD.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    Everyone: Ricky, tile, Snakes, et al

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    For me, I think it&#39;s gonna come down to this = the first real trailer. During the Cullen announcement at Comic-Con, they stated that fully rendered robots would not even be available to the production itself until January/February. Now, they seem to be shooting for the first real trailer set premier sometime during the Holidays (presumably in November). With all the hubbub surrounding the alleged script, the leaked images, the Don Murphy fiasco, and so on...it&#39;s going to come down to what they can show us in the trailer that is going to make-or-break this movie. I&#39;m still willing to wait. But after all the craziness surrounding this flick, they REALLY need to hit a homerun with that first bit of finalized footage.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST

    hey...bad boys 2 was pretty cool!

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Yep the Island was great, so was Bad Boys 2

    by ganymede2010

    So you were saying?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST

    You people are taking this FAR too seriously

    by Acappellaman

    For crying out oud, you whiners, this isn&#39;t even a screen capture! It&#39;s a friggin rendering of a robot. Come on! Give them a little leeway, will ya? You guys are worse than the whiners that b!tched about Spider-Man&#39;s organic webbing. Chill out!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:07 p.m. CST

    MNG and the trailer of hope

    by tile_mcgillus

    I will need to see in this trailer for it to work: vast differences from the script, gorgeous transformers in ferocious battle, oh and no flames on prime unless he really is on fire.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Danny McCoy should just be Hawk from GI JOE in TF

    by IMMORTAL-1

    With so many of the main characters being army guys they should have just gone all the way and then characters from GI Joe. Tyrese could be Snake Eyes...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Tile

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    You win the presidency!... with that little novella of a speech. However, you&#39;re wrong. Here&#39;s where. The more things change, the more they stay the same, blah blah blah, but it&#39;s fucking right. Maybe you&#39;ve heard of Shakespeare? Well, his plays were originally intended to be consumed by the masses. And they were. Art has always been available, even now that it takes only the click of a mouse to be able to view any piece in virtually any museum, it has only highlighted the fact that the masses aren&#39;t interested... unless there&#39;s blood, and violence. Something that was prevelant in Shakespeare&#39;s plays. Some people call those things art too. Anyway, other than being boring (while making some nice points too) I don&#39;t really know what of what I said you were responding to. The levelheaded comment? Get real. Look at where you are. A site run by a guy who wanted to spunk on himself after Blade 2. The real reason Bay gets to keep making movies is that he taps into whitetrash culture. He did it really well with Armageddon, but then has gotten lazy with each subsquent film. I loved The Rock, and was mildly entertained by the forementioned. I like stupid shit, just as much as I do old jap, french, and german cinema. It&#39;s all the same, it just matters how well it&#39;s done. If Cameron was making Transformers (which I&#39;m sure after this comes out and sucks, just like the rumored Alien 5 that was to be made by he and Ridley Scott, which we found out about not too long ago after the shitfest that was Resurrection) I&#39;m sure there would be just as many booms, and cliches... only they would be done so much BETTER. I just realized, I&#39;m not even responding to what you said, I just like to hear myself talk. Or type. Who the fuck cares.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Agreed--the trailer is their last shot

    by Ricky Henderson

    For fans anyway. We all know 8-10 year olds are going to drag their parents to the movie regaurdless of the buzz surrounding it. I&#39;ll say it again: I&#39;m still in the camp that is hoping to see these things in motion and be won over. A trailer filled with generic Michael Bay&#39;s generic shock and awe isn&#39;t going to impress many people. The need to figure out a way to capture the awe and majesty that is inherent in the liscence.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    WTF??? F*CK YOU SPEILBERG!!! F*CK YOU HASBRO!

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    MUTHAF*CK MICHAEL BAY AND DON MURPHY!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!!

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    You guys fucked up a sure thing. No wonder James Cameron is teaming with WETA now.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s no test

    by adonais

    I think it&#39;s pretty obvious why they are releasing images. Because they know that anybody with taste and anyone who knows Transformers will hate these designs so the more they let them be seen by the public the more we&#39;ll get used to seing them. If they were to suddenly release a trailer or the movie itself without warning the fan reaction will be so much worse and intense. It&#39;s the same way the music industry oversaturates the airwaves with whatever they call a single these days. How else would they get people to buy Christina Aguilera or Green Day? If you hear a song at Best Buy, then go across the street to Subway and hear the same song, then turn on a commercial and hear the same song eventually you&#39;ll hear something catchy in it just because you&#39;re so used to hearing it. The same thing with these images, the more you see them, the less strange and offensive they seem.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Evidently ILM has an "A-team" and a "B-team"

    by Ricky Henderson

    Remember "Hulk" ? Yeah, pretty hard to believe thats all they could make with that huge budget, but guess what? The big green guy looked awful. Who&#39;s to say the same thing won&#39;t happen here? I&#39;m not too solf on Weta either, some of their stuff on LOTR just looked like absolute garbage. Hopefully they can kick it up a notch for "Halo." Now there&#39;s a movie I&#39;m dying to hear some info about... It would be nice to read happy news for a change. Where&#39;s my Halo movie news damnit?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    RE: FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!!

    by NuteG

    I thought Michael Bay was working with Digital Domain on this movie - not ILM.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    "capture the awe and majesty"

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Well, I don&#39;t really think there has been much of that in all the cartoon incarnations. HOWEVER, you want to capture the possible awe and majesty in a live action format? Give us a trailer with a fuckin&#39; hero shot of Optimus Prime that leaves our collective jaws on the floor.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST

    RE: FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!!

    by NuteG

    ...But I&#39;ve been wrong before. <ahem> Sorry.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Snakesonamichaelbay

    by tile_mcgillus

    You seemed to be insinuating that I had no real opinion about the subject and was meandering through the TFTBs. I just thought you guys sounded like little bitches whiny, again, anyway we are not going to accomplish anything sinking into the call each other names and tell them to leave attitude. As for being wrong about art. I understand your point about Shakespear and agree that it was available to all. The gallery came and threw vegetables while the rich and aristocratic sat in the balcony looking down. You can&#39;t tell me that mainstream cinema isnt the complete epitomy of the downing down to make cash scenario. I point to White Chicks, Little Man, XXX, F&F, FF etc etc. It depends on you define well made. Look at all of Michael Bay&#39;s films visually their well made. I think the Masterpiece Optimus Prime is well made, some people have called it stupid and ridiculous. I think we are agreeing on virtaully everything just differ on how we would go about it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:27 p.m. CST

    SPO!!

    by Shepard Bauer

    So who here is a fan of Optimus&#39;s Soul Patch? That&#39;s the one update I&#39;m starting to like!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    "downing down" :dumbing down"

    by tile_mcgillus

    okay there were a lot of typing errors in that post. Deal with it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Do you guys know...

    by fortheloveofgod

    That these things are not real pictures........the Transformers will look like the old cartoon ones in the movie. How is that Optimus going to change into a truck? The answer is......it won&#39;t.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    See! That&#39;s why it&#39;s fun to argue.

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    We see that we both feel similar but in different ways. Then we become friends. Aww. And I wasn&#39;t insinuating that you had no real opinion, but the fact that you were asking people to basically grow up on AICN was pointless. I agree that most mainstream shit is shit, but I can also appreicate a well made popcorn movie, and can respect it just as much as I do something made by Kurosawa. Aliens comes to mind. If you want to look at popcorn, or pop culture as art, look no further than Cameron&#39;s masterpiece. Iconic, dumb enough for the people in the red states, witty, genuinely touching and dramatic, well shot, and paced, and above all ENTERTAINING. I don&#39;t look at shit like White Chicks, Little Man, XXX, or Fantastic Four as films. I look at them as products. The 3 dozen or so twinkies all the studios have to churn out each year to ensure profit. What the industry needs, and this country quite frankly, is a major MAJOR major failure. That dip in the box office last year, when everyone was watching and agonizing over how each week was worse than they year before, was the best thing that could have happened to the film industry, unfortunately this year things have somewhat recovered. What needs to happen is failure on a massive, consistent level, just like it did back in the 60&#39;s when all the big studio tentpole movies were bombing... We have them to thank for the 70&#39;s and the second golden era of cinema.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Ugh. He looks depressed without the faceplate

    by DOGSOUP

    Maybe he&#39;s upset at how awful he looks, like going to the prom in a hand me down dress. It&#39;s a big robot for sure but it ain&#39;t Optimus Prime.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:39 p.m. CST

    soul patch

    by Staldo

    NOW people notice the soul patch? small chin protrusions have been part of transformers designs since 19-fucking-84/ almost every robot with a face has one of them in the toy or cartoon version, including the females. In the original toys it was inspired by Egyptian death masks and Kabuto. Optimus now has a mouth and chin, thus he has the "soul patch".

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:44 p.m. CST

    He looked better when he was out of focus

    by Phategod2

    and ganymede this is a AICN TB we are not here to stroke anyone&#39;s ego or to sit here and say how great this movie is going to be. did you sit there and spow your blind optimism when Batman & robin came out, or did you just slink in a corner and decide that you weren&#39;t going to see it. this is a talkback so that&#39;s what we do, most of the opinions are negative so guess what? your going to have alot of negative Talk backs. but you sound perfect for DonMurphy.net you should sign up. but here we have total freedom of speech you can post your blind optimism, and we can all live in the world of reality.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I was wondering what his butt looked like

    by kafka07

    Thanks now I can die happy.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST

    A movie about a low rent cartoon done in CGI. Wow.

    by uberman

    This will be great.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    The movie optimus won&#39;t have flames.

    by fortheloveofgod

    He will look like the old cartoon with a flat nose........the thing is many fans are so sick this shit stuff that they will not watch it. Which is sad beacause a sure fire blockbuster has been destroyed.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Although...

    by kafka07

    It would have been best if they used two tire for butt cheeks.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST

    The Don Murphy Boards

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I just took a look over there. Whereas the poster image seems to have impressed folks, these images are not going over too well there.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    No nipples?

    by cromulent

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Snakesonabicycle you speak truth

    by IndustryKiller

    large scale failure would be the best thing that could ever happen to filmgoers. Nowadays the are 50 "products" to every real film that comes out. I just had the pleasure of watching the film Half Nelson with Ryan Gosling and it made me smile that the real acting of the 70&#39;s isn&#39;t dead after all. It&#39;s unarguable that the mid to late 70&#39;s was the pinnacle of cinema and the closer we get to that the better.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Bay&#39;s Message Boards

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Now Bay&#39;s blog administrator, Nelson, has chimed in on these: "Old stuff. This design was around that of October 2005." ** http://tinyurl.com/pts9x

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    Hey RC,

    by Shaner Jedi

    ILM designs stuff that meets Bay&#39;s approval, not whatever they want you douchebag. Nate, ILM is the main fx company on the show. BTW, there are no A or B teams at ILM you little bitches. If you&#39;re available, they use you.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Why so many leaks?

    by fortheloveofgod

    Is asslicking Quint giving fake info and pics out?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:09 p.m. CST

    None of these have a recognizeable sillouette.

    by modlight

    if they backlight these characters they&#39;d all look alike. No one would mistake Jazz for Optimus or Bumblebee in the old cartoon because they looked like their vehicles. Now they all look the same. I&#39;m back to being angered.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Phategod2, Schumaucker was robbed for Best Director!

    by ganymede2010

    Batman & Robin was the shiz! NOT....

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Wow, AICN is really pushing this flick.

    by Orbots Commander

    Yeah, I get it--targeted marketing. But since most of the fanbase, which I&#39;m not really one of (just a general sci-fi/action/horror fan) have really just dismissed this flick at this point, I think AICN pushing it is only going to make it worse, box-office wise. The constant hype and the hard sell is bringing back memories of Emmerich&#39;s Godzilla flick.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:13 p.m. CST

    I like cartoons and toys

    by filmcans

    ...and yet...who cares? I&#39;m shocked people are reacting as if Transformers has any cohesion in its universe. What&#39;s canon? The cartoon? The comics? Which cartoon? What comics? It&#39;s a TOY LINE with licsenced junk to go along with it. How can anybody RUIN it?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST

    toy commercial

    by Staldo

    Why is anybody excited about a movie based on a badly animated half-hour toy commercial? There, I posted it so the usual condescending assmilks don&#39;t have to take time out of reading Proust and jacking off to Moore&#39;s Lost Girls.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Goodbye Steve Irwin

    by talkbackgeek

    Crikey! Rest in peace Steve.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Looks like the TF minions are madder than ever now

    by brokebackcowboy

    Might as well wrap up production before any more money is wasted. Optimus Prime looks like it was made from spare parts and should be standing outside an Autozone. WTF? Too much detailing and no personality.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:26 p.m. CST

    It makes me actually feel good about Megatron&#39;s...

    by DOGSOUP

    ...Vagina Dentata face. That&#39;s a bad sign.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:27 p.m. CST

    I can see what they are doing

    by Larry of Arabia

    He looks more human and not like a bunch of boxes locked together with joints. Defined arms and legs, and tubes and wires like sinews. Am I mistaken or does he have nipples?? I&#39;ve been avoiding judgement so far, it lacks the charm of the older transformers. To me what made them cool was that they were still cars. The proof will be in the movie, however. We shall see.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    70&#39;s Movies

    by Jak0lantern01

    OK, well at least we have a few people here seem to agree that movies of the 70&#39;s rocked. Acting, style, innovation, all there. Something appears to have been lost since then, it&#39;s called soul. These movies have no soul. Instead, they are planned out by a corporate commitee about how to make a movie appeal to the most people possible and take no chances. Don&#39;t try to tell me redesigning Meg&#39;s and Prime is taking a chance. No, instead it&#39;s suicide. I guess we can blame Lucas and the Star Wars marketing machine. People behind the camera can claim to be making art, but instead, it&#39;s really a product. That&#39;s all. Bay can take his MTV style of filmmaking and go to....FUSE. MTV doesn&#39;t do vids anymore. Funny thing is, even bad movies from the 70&#39;s seem pretty good by today&#39;s standards.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:36 p.m. CST

    titties

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    before youre deleted and banned, what was that you were trying to draw?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:37 p.m. CST

    The New Design For Optimus Prime?

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    Whatever it was, they should go with that instead.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:40 p.m. CST

    McTitties

    by rev_skarekroe

    Good gravy man, don&#39;t you have a job or homework or something?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Ummm...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I see dead people...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Talkbackers won&#39;t accept anything short of the Cartoon

    by ganymede2010

    No matter what Bay does. If he doesn&#39;t look like that dull and outdated cartoon lego, these girls are going cry. Cry on.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:49 p.m. CST

    This shouldn&#39;t happen period

    by bishopfan85

    I&#39;m not necessarily as appalled as many of the talkbackers are in regards to this project. Personally, the second I think of a live action version of any cartoon that has such a large array of characters that would simply cost more than the current U.S.deficit, my general thought is that it just should not even be attempted. But once I hear, "Hey there&#39;s going to be a live action Transformers.", my first thought is, "Well I guess we&#39;re only going to be seeing a handfull of our favorites and there&#39;s no way that it will be able to stand true to its source material to any major degree." So here we are, we have this film coming out that I would say is more of a homage to the Transformers that we know and love. When I see the images that have been released which I understand to be prototypes that have the potential to go through an ARRAY of changes between now and release time, that is the least of my issues. Optimus looks like Optimus to me. Yeah, he&#39;s upgraded but he&#39;s recognizable. Some of them not so much, especially Megatron and I hope they plan to make plenty of changes before they come up with the final design. What concerns me most are the script reviews that indicate that there won&#39;t be much of Megatron in the film to begin with and that the Transformers don&#39;t actually talk (I haven&#39;t read myself so as far as I know that isn&#39;t confirmed). Those types of things are what make me uneasy about this film but being a fan of most of Bay&#39;s films I have faith that I won&#39;t be sitting in that theatre being completely unsatisfied. I rarely agree with talkback reviewers because I do my best to dumb myself down for the sake of action cinema (that&#39;s from years of getting the politics behind them). Needless to say, AICN would be better off not sharing much more info as its clear that nothing will satisfy those who stand loyal to the original transformers cartoon. The fact that not a single cartoon that has followed came close to being as well written or entertaining, I can&#39;t imagine this film not at the least being one of the first Transformers related pieces that doesn&#39;t completely suck since the 80&#39;s. I would be much more excitedd to see a CGI, Final Fantasy Style 2 plus hour epic Transformers Film but obviously it&#39;s too late for that so oh well.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Piece of advice to Paramount and Michael Bay:

    by Orbots Commander

    Look, at this point you don&#39;t seem to have the hardcore Transformers fans on your side, niche as their segment might be, so quit with the "unofficial leaks". The best thing you can do for yourselves to stop with the hard sell, hunker down and finish your movie. It&#39;s going to be what&#39;s it&#39;s going to be. If the footage is bad, maybe Mr. Spielberg can help you save the movie in the editing room. Regardless, you&#39;re not doing yourselves any favors with this leaks, so quit digging while you&#39;re standing in a hole of shit and sewage and go back to work on your movie and focus on telling the best story you can tell.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:53 p.m. CST

    why is it so bad.....

    by slappy jones

    to want the transformers in the movie transformers which is based on the cartoon called transformers to look like fucking transformers???why is that so bad?these designs would be great if the film was called "Overly Complicated Changebots" but they just don&#39;t look anything like transformers..especially megatron. with megatron they might as well have just given him a new name..these designs sum up a bay film in everyway..over the top and totally unnecessary

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:53 p.m. CST

    How much is Paramount paying you, Harry???

    by Forestal

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:57 p.m. CST

    still not sure

    by cabbageheat

    i am a little confused by the headshots. i don&#39;t understand what I"m looking at. is that a huge nose or something? too hard to tell from these photos. i think his heads a little too thin however. hopefully some new pics will surface soon.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Optimism

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    Anyone who thinks these designs are going to change, other than on a micro level, are just fooling themselves. They built a giant Bumble Bee robot, they already shot with that stupid purple and flamey Optimus truck, and at least most of you have realistically given up hope on Megatron. But the stuff they built, the "real" shit, is already done, designed, and most likely filmed. They wouldnt mesh with any new CGI last minute design. If they try to make Bungled Bee look any less like a serial killer, his "ultra realistic" design (he&#39;s a fucking space alien robot for fucksakes, where&#39;s the irony in that) will not mesh. If they try to make Starscream look like less of a gorilla... well you get the fucking point. Why not hope for something more realistic? Like the worst movie of all time. That way when we download it, it will at least be worth our normally designated porn bandwith, and a few laughs.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST

    10 tons of SHIT!!!!

    by alienindisguise

    Fuck Bay and Spielberg claiming to be Transformer fans...A real fan wouldn&#39;t piss all over the already perfect design of Prime....YYYAAARRRGGGHHHH! Oh yeah and what&#39;s up with Prime&#39;s feet?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST

    I know how it works...

    by Bash_Branigan

    Micahel Bay&#39;s head folds up into his @ss. Oh, wait. You meant how Optimus works...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST

    I envy Steve Irwin

    by W3bzpinn3r

    I wish a stingray would pierce my heart and kill me instantly, so I&#39;ll never be subjected to this shitty movie.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Sweet Christmas Crap!

    by Playhouse

    My car!!! Dear lord, that face is worse than the rest of the body. I&#39;m done. That cashed in my ticket right there.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Guys, there&#39;s a BIG difference between movies and toys

    by Triumph poops!

    Merrick pondered at one point in his articlle how something with so many parts would actually transform...as if it wouldn&#39;t look right. But, come on, let&#39;s be real here. There&#39;s a HELLUVA lot of difference between what you&#39;d like to see in motion/action on a giant ass movie screen VERSUS a toy that&#39;s sitting on the store shelf which has to be practical in terms of manufacturing and sales costs and even safety issues towards the eventual buyer (ie. the kids who&#39;ll be playing with it). I love what I&#39;ve seen so far. As someone else noted, so far these movie Transformers look totally badass and great. WAY better than I had even hoped. As to how they&#39;ll actually transform, onscreen they&#39;ll transform a helluva lot more realistically to the average viewer. And that&#39;s because, bottom line, people mentially know a truck or certainly a jet plane or anything of that nature simply has a HELLUVA lot of moving parts or components to it. So the average moviegoer is going to expect the Transformers robots to have a ton of things sticking off them or whatnot. As for how the toys will be, naturally they&#39;ll be trimmed down versions for practicality sake. They&#39;ll look like the movie incarnations, but obviously be way simpler due to manufacturing. But overall I think this movie LOOKS great...but I expected that from Bay and Spielberg. So here&#39;s just hoping the actual SCRIPT doesn&#39;t suck ass as much as I&#39;ve heard rumors of. Otherwise, I think this will be a fun flick and I&#39;m betting neck summer a whole new generation of kids will be loving it. Come on, it&#39;s big ass robots that transform into everyday things which then transform back into cool ass robots to beat on each other&#39;s ass. So in the end, what more did you actually expect this project to be like? Speaking as someone who grew up seeing the show, so far this movie looks about what I expected it to be...hell, so far it looks BETTER than I expected it to be. I can&#39;t wait.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Fetal Alcohol Syndrome

    by pelos_locos

    Prime face reminds me of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (look it up in WebMD), even with the mask on. Optimus Mom must have hit it hard with the beer. Some of the symptoms include small eyes, larger separation between the eyes, a flat upper face and more. The nose reminds me of the Beast from the Disney movie. Change the face. Everything else rocks.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:19 p.m. CST

    I would of liked an omage to Prime

    by Phategod2

    and the rest, instead we get this slander.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:21 p.m. CST

    The eyes work for me

    by Turd Furgusen

    The face in non-combat is a little weird. I like the eyes, they seem to emote a serious vibe as well as other emotions without some dumb-ass metal eye-brows. I am sure the concept artists toyed with that idea. No pun intended. MNG if I missed a previous post, what do you think of the eyes?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:24 p.m. CST

    This movie was over as soon as Bay signed on.

    by Logo Lou

    The plot and designs could look EXACTLY like the cartoon and it wouldn&#39;t matter, the man&#39;s movies suck. Sorry, I give the man no slack at all unlike Moriarty, and I won&#39;t suck his balls like Harry. As many have said, box office wise: big opening weekend (but not as big as they think), then all downhill from there...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I think it would be funny if we all went to the premier

    by smackfu

    and the film rolled and it was just 2 hours of michael bay fucking a fat man in a transformers shirt up the ass in a room full of moneybags while laughing and slapping his ass.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:29 p.m. CST

    nevermind

    by Turd Furgusen

    I just read what tile_mcgillus posted and it makes sense that this is concept work. I think the eyes could still work seeing what Bumblebee looks like. I&#39;m sure that they could make them glow yellow under certain combat conditions or environmental conditions (night vision). I have to agree with many others, you have to have a couple of scenes with OP sportn&#39; the yellow eyes. Give us a little G1 nod, would ya?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:29 p.m. CST

    If there is a bonus scene after the end credits roll

    by smackfu

    It should be a closeup shot of a coke table in disarray while defocused in the background is michael bay with his back turned to us, propping himself up against he wall with one arm and vomiting into a flowerpot.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST

    beat me to it

    by kahootz

    Damn anyone who referenced "Pimp My Ride" before me. That was so mine.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Harry, for fuck&#39;s sake......

    by CloneRangerUK

    ....please comment on this abortion of a movie, you have been too silent on this for too long!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Crap.

    by Lucasblows

    Crap.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Looks horrible....

    by GibsonUSA

    What is with the bored look on Megs and Prime&#39;s faces? It looks worse up close.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST

    hm

    by Dollar Bird

    Didn&#39;t Cullen do the voice of Kong in "King Kong Returns"? I guess that jives with Prime&#39;s new ape face.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Gibson USA....

    by CloneRangerUK

    ...thats the fans faces!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Can someone send Bay....

    by CloneRangerUK

    ...down to the Great Barrier Reef to do some Seacon research???

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    the face cant be serious - a mouth ON the faceplate?

    by FuriousStyles

    if these are leaks, they better start leaking something good, cos this film looks worse DAILY................forget G1 faithfulness - these just look terrible period................a Transformers film should have been easy money in the bank - but no, these geniuses know better than PROVEN HISTORY and thus, have lost me

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST

    What is it the kids say these days?...

    by OurManInMontr

    ...ah yeah: FUGLY.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus = Vanilla Ice in TMNT 2

    by PhantomSpazzz

    Flames on Optimus = Han shoots first Flames on Optimus = green goblin outfit Flames on Optimus = NSYNC in Star Wars Flames on Optimus = gay homo love (not that there&#39;s anything wrong with that.)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Even worse up close

    by FookU

    His face with and without the mouth plate look terrible. I thought they got the head right until I saw this and now even Optimus&#39; head is fucked. This gets worse and worse.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:17 p.m. CST

    They should just call this movie Voltron....

    by GibsonUSA

    At this point nobody can tell what the f*ck it is regardless....

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:21 p.m. CST

    flames != Han shoots first

    by mocky_puppet

    nothing equals the magnitude of awfulness delivered by "Greedo shoots first". nothing.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Man that toy is going to be sharp.

    by Archduke_Chocula

    Sharp edges I mean. http://k105.blogspot.com/

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:25 p.m. CST

    looks like

    by JCR5686

    he&#39;s falling asleep

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST

    If they are testing the waters on what we want....

    by GibsonUSA

    I think we should save them some time and let them know that the general consensus for Prime is 1.)GET RID OF THE FLAMES, 2.) No Monkeyface, 3.) GET RID OF THE FLAMES, 4.) Less exposed parts and gears, 5.) GET RID OF THE FLAMES, 6.)a more simplistic and G1 inspired design (less small jaggy parts), and 7.) GET RID OF THE FLAMES.....and if at all possible, a last minute change to the proper flat-nosed truck would win over a ton of people.....BUT WITHOUT FLAMES.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:30 p.m. CST

    his face looks fucking horid

    by quadrupletree

    It looks like a gorilla face. WTF? Just don&#39;t show his face!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:30 p.m. CST

    New film pitch......

    by CloneRangerUK

    ...Stingrays on a Bay...please..before it&#39;s too late!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:33 p.m. CST

    OCC Prime

    by ImissGnR

    looks the the tuttles did good. wtf!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    So does he have tribal tatoo mudflaps?

    by PUGLIFE

    I bet this Optimus runs on Mountain Dew

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Looks like General Grievous after a day at the Spa

    by Press Lenox

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    anybody out there actually LIKE the script??

    by bigdickmcgee

    All the reviews so far have been terrible.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:59 p.m. CST

    My question is:

    by Orbots Commander

    If the Spiderman movie producers had the foresight to hire great writers like Michael Chabon and Alvin Sargent to write their screenplays what was stopping Paramount and Spielberg from going out and hiring a heavy hitter to pen the Transformers script? Imagine a Transformers script by Gaiman, Stephenson, or even Ray Bradbury (yes, he&#39;s still alive).

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    stretchin bastards

    by thebearovingian

    TBers who stretch the TB are just as bad as the momos who designed this flamed up Optimus Prime impostor. It&#39;s not supposed to look like this!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:14 p.m. CST

    As none of the TF stuff has looked the way its supposed

    by finky089

    It seems ironically appropriate that the TB got STTTTRREEEEETTTTCCCCHHHEEDDD. TINO!TINO!TINO!TINO!TINO!TINO!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:15 p.m. CST

    But, it&#39;s still a pain in the ass

    by finky089

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    bigdickmcgee...

    by Staldo

    I have to say I liked the script, with quite a few reservations. Prime&#39;s characterization, and the fact that, in that early draft, his narration begins and ends the movie is pretty cool. The action, when it actually gets rolling about 3/5 of the way through the script, after a lot of unneccessary human characterization I didn&#39;t care for(do I really need to know about what the military characters do in their off time?), actually gave me goosebumps. Also to the script&#39;s credit, it sets the stage for something bigger and better.(you honestly think a sequel to this movie wouldn&#39;t improve on the first?) It is essentially an introduction, and should be taken as such. As Shia LeBouf said in his interview, the whole movie plays like a trailer, albeit one of the coolest damn trailers I&#39;ve ever seen. As it stands it is definitely worth two hours of my life, but another half-hour of characterization on the transformers and less focus on random humans would more than pay for itself.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Bah! Bay! Flames! Anger! Movie! Words! Complain! Fans!

    by Rearden

    Cartoon! Snarl! Script! Pupils! Original! Grunt! Faceplate! Pictures! Noun! Verb! Adjective! Flat-nose-truck! Megatron! Paramount! Spielberg! &#39;Splosions! Hasbro! Desert! Pearl Harbor! Exclamation point! SoundWave! Orsen Welles! Mars! Scatman! Holes! The Island! Discontent! Bitter! Virgins!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:23 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s stupid, but...

    by Eaglet1138

    But it&#39;s Transfuckingformers, so it&#39;s going to be stupid. But I&#39;m sure it&#39;ll be a fun movie, and this picture doesn&#39;t make me not want to watch it. So...whatever. Just release the freaking movie.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Oh well, nevermind

    by Dolmes

    could be worse.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Wow, I never knew,

    by moose4787

    that under his face gaurd he was really just a scuzzy illeagle mexican imagrent.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Apologists. SUCK A BIG WANG

    by messi

    Aintitshot(Don Murphy), googamooga and deadlegend. Suck a big wang, lexington steele style. You guys like the flames even though there is NO FUCKING REASON other than to bring in the idiotic pimp my robot crowd. Doesn&#39;t accentuate his ribs, Bay owned himself because one, it doesn&#39;t do it at all, and two, you don&#39;t need flames, if your transformer is this complicated and broken in little bits, then use the bits to accentuate the ribs. Fuck you all. FUCK YOU!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Staldo what script did you read?

    by messi

    because the only optimus moment i read was when he felt guilt for bumblebee when he got the glasses, apart from that Optimus is non existant. so.....PLANT!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:36 p.m. CST

    THIS is the face of optimus...

    by quamb

    http://www.finaldestinationcollectibles.com/ebaypics/tfpos.jpg

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Yikes

    by DrSherlockHouse

    I have watched the Transformers debates, and I finally am going to speak up myself. I was a fan of the original, but not enough to remember a lot about it. I LOVED the toys, and I loved the designs of them. What I hate about the new stuff is the same thing I hate about the new toys...they are too complicated. To transform, you need an engineering degree. Nothing ever looks right, it&#39;s just parts sticking out, weird shapes, thin lines. I liked the blocky build of the G1 characters. This Prime, he looks close, but sitll too much going on. Too many things. I don&#39;t care about realism...I care that these things resemble what I liked in the first place. Why not just set it in the 80&#39;s...explain Megatron and Shockwave&#39;s size problems by the fact that these are ALIEN technology. It doesn&#39;t have to adhere to any science. My last problem is with Megatron. The design sucks, we can agree on that...but he changes into an Alien Spacecraft???? WHat part of ROBOTS IN DISGUISE did they not understand??? I mean, why hide your alien robot technology by transforming into OTHER alien robot technology. Color me disappointed.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:38 p.m. CST

    I dig it. I wish he was a tad bulkier, but I dig it.

    by Shermdawg

    I just hope he keeps the face gaurd up most of the time. Now if they could just fix Starscream...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:38 p.m. CST

    I own a G1 Optimus

    by eviltoast

    ...Jazz, Jetfire, Scout, and many others besides. I bought Autobots and forced my younger brother to buy Decipticons. I am now 32, have 2 kids, and make videogames for a living. And I think that, as toys, these designs are... not badass. Nor do they suck. I actually think they are almost great, but lack that certain soul-power.. the clever elegance that made the G1 toys awesome and revolutionary. Now... and here&#39;s the thing... these are *not* toys. These are actors in a movie. Robots (CGI, practical models, whatever, I am talking about thier design as robots) called upon to perform and emote on the level of , and share the screen with, human beings, and for that, you need a design substantially more complex than your G1 O.P., and these designs fit that bill - and I hope to the baby allah the toy ends up looking as cool as these images.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:44 p.m. CST

    people trying to fix problems for first movie in sequel

    by messi

    and the movie hasn&#39;t even fucking come out yet. that&#39;s when you know you have a problem. or people already talking about the reboot, when the original hasn&#39;t even come out yet. paramount. that is not good news

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:47 p.m. CST

    &#39;hardcore&#39; fans are not happy with the head

    by messi

    just letting you know, because before the hardcore fans were more open to everything since they (don&#39;t know why) followed the other incarnations fo transformers.(but they still hated megatron, and now optimus&#39; head).

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Actually, the more I look at him, I really dig it.

    by Shermdawg

    But, like Merrick, I don&#39;t see how this will transform as a toy. They&#39;d have to redesign it a bit.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Solution that would&#39;ve fixed everything:

    by CreasyBear

    Flames on Batman&#39;s suit; nipples on Optimus. Think about it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:53 p.m. CST

    WEAK!

    by Shaboozie

    Why can&#39;t they stay more true to the G1 Prime? We all could live with slight changes but fuck man that looks like shit compared to the classic design.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:55 p.m. CST

    what would save this movie.

    by Phategod2

    Balls on Don Murphy, A Fist on Mike Bay, and a Damn arm cannon on megatron.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Looked better from a distance

    by Gorrister

    Are these releases attempts to try to win fans over? If so, is it working? To me, Optimus looks worse than I originally thought he did.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:59 p.m. CST

    something negative(spoiler)

    by Staldo

    you didn&#39;t like Prime proselytizing about the "legions of chaos" and the fucking Mount everest part? then I don&#39;t know what Optimus you remember from your childhood. I remember a giant robot with an eloquent Abraham Lincoln streak. I will say that the little Arab boy, the microwave burrito line and the damn product placement op Xbox-former need to fuck off as well as the random non-transforming scorpion thing. Would it have been so hard to have an insecticon or something? Also Pluto is still a planet, only a Dwarf planet. Dwarf people are still people right? I rest my case.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST

    And about the ending...

    by Shermdawg

    Despite a lot of stuff I didn&#39;t like about the script, the Mt.Everest bit will have my ass in the theater. That will be an amazing shot.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST

    You know where going to get the Mike Bay

    by Phategod2

    Circle the actor shot in that Everest scene.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Everest Scene

    by McGsStepson

    Does not make up for the fucking 50+ pages of Wonderbug that we get at the beginning of the film.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:16 p.m. CST

    re:You know where going to get the Mike Bay

    by Flux_brown

    and i have to admit, its gonna look pretty sweeeeettt

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Will the classic "more than meets they eye" song be in?

    by McGsStepson

    A big question no doubt. I know Don "The Dragon" Murphy has said no but I really don&#39;t give a shit what he says at this point.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Looks like a pile of parts

    by jocutus

    If it looks so jumbled standing still I can&#39;t wait to see what a blurry mess it looks like when animated. They must have told the designers that the original cartoon versions were too simplistic. I imagine trying to transform the toy of this would be like trying to solve a Rubic&#39;s Hypercube. Have fun kids, and be careful no to cut yourself on on those sharp edges!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:23 p.m. CST

    How Do You Fuck Up

    by Playhouse

    Prime&#39;s head?!?!?!?! It&#39;s just intentional now.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:33 p.m. CST

    RE: RE: You know where going to get the Mike Bay

    by Phategod2

    No it not going to be sweet its goin to be as Gay and over indulgent as Flames on prime and Doves in a Woo movie we get the point and we don&#39;t think its cool anymore I think once anythings been done in cinematography to "Will Smith" it&#39;s no longer cool.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:34 p.m. CST

    This Toy Commercial Is Ruined!!!

    by LaserPants

    RUINED!!! Hey, wait... hold on... that actually looks pretty okay. In fact, it looks pretty cool! WOW! I&#39;ve changed my mind! THIS TOY COMMERCIAL LOOKS AWESOME!!! I can&#39;t wait till I can buy more useless crap! Woo hoo! Lets here it for feature length toy commercials which have attained an almost mythical relgious experience amongst the "raised by the television set" generation!!! The ultimte triumph of marketing over the human imagination! Yay!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:34 p.m. CST

    im just waiting for the trailer to blow us all away....

    by wcoop893

    because i love this robot. and mike bay will do exactly that, blow everything up and its gonna be glorious. hopefully.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:41 p.m. CST

    A question to all the Apologist Out there

    by Phategod2

    Let me get this right Because I want to believe that your smarter then everyone percieves you to be please tell me that you would be happy with a movie with alot of airhead characters that make no sense at all tell me that you at least want to care about the characters and are not just there to see "shit blowed up real good."

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Well, that tears it.

    by NYSCO6390

    I&#39;ve begun my campaign of telling people that they&#39;re not allowed to see this movie. In the words of greats like Psycho Mark and Opie and Anthony "Michael Bay, YOUR MOM&#39;S BOX"

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:52 p.m. CST

    aside from the flames i would have no problem with this

    by BLWiseass

    Though i don&#39;t quite understand where some of the wheels have gone

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:01 p.m. CST

    phategod

    by Flux_brown

    I have to admit, i&#39;m a sucker for those slow mo mikey bay glory shots, but hey...nobody&#39;s perfect :) But i sure as hell aint crazy bout these character designs. And with all these leaks we&#39;ve been seeing lately, i just hope that all teh conspiracy theories are true, that this is all just bs, and most possibly the aingle most elaborate hoax ever...Harry, any ideas? oh waitaminute...ur one of THEM now!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST

    If you look at the wheels

    by NYSCO6390

    with the dualies up by Prime&#39;s hips, it looks like he just folds himself over and the cab just builds up from his legs and torso. It&#39;s just aweful planning.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST

    man, people love this Transformers crap

    by Rupee88

    I didn&#39;t understand why this site has so many Transformers articles, but I see that each one generates an extremely active talkback. Guess I was too old by 5 years or so to be into Transformers. They seem retarded to me, but maybe I would have liked them as a little kid.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST

    I&#39;ve been on the fence about the flames

    by ATARI

    But now I&#39;ve decided -- they have to go. Just doesn&#39;t fit with Optimus&#39; personality. I, am, however, OK with the longnose semi.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    BLWiseass....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    I was eyeballing Prime in order to figure out how this thing is supposed to Transform (I&#39;m contemplating doing a rough model for another video) If you look at his upper thigh area you can see the 2 rear tires, and if you look at his feet you see the front tire. Now everyone stop and think about this for a minute, that means his upper torso is somehow going to stretch down completely over the legs and end up on top of his feet when he turns into a truck. THEY CAN&#39;T EVEN GET THE FUCKING TRANSFORMATION RIGHT!! Instead of seeing him pop up forward with his legs trailing we&#39;re getting the opposite, and you fucking apologists can kiss my ass, because yes the basic transformation certainly matters. Can&#39;t have mass shifting, but Prime can fucking break in half, and his chest, which was resting on his feet, can jump up onto his ass somehow?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Does anyone remember what Prime and Megs looked like?

    by McGsStepson

    I mean really man. Just google their images. I was the last guy to be a "purist" on this topic but these are just ridiculous. FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Optimus&#39;s REAL face = Where&#39;s Waldo

    by Blartifartass

    Seriously, I&#39;ve found Optimus&#39;s real face, RIGHT there in plain view! http://tinyurl.com/ktq4c

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:41 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JASON BATEMAN IN TEEN WOLF TOO

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PHATEGOD 2 &1 ON BITORRENT!

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus = Otis&#39; Theme in Superman

    by brokebackcowboy

    Think about THAT!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:55 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TALKING IN A PORN VIDEO

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EWOKS IN ROTJ

    by brokebackcowboy

    I&#39;m sure someone said that already ...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MADONNA IN DIE ANOTHER DAY

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:07 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL JACKSON&#39;S 1ST NOSEJOB

    by brokebackcowboy

    It&#39;s all downhill from there.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A ZIT ON JESSICA ALBA&#39;S ASS

    by brokebackcowboy

    Why fuck with perfection?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Gus Van Rant...

    by The Atomic Worm

    Please blow it out your own arsehole, slapnut. This movie will own. Ya hear me fanboys???? OWN!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO TF

    by PeopleKillRobots

    yeah. i said it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:31 p.m. CST

    NO FLAMES ON PRIME = NUTS ON APOLOGIST&#39;S CHIN

    by Phategod2

    Because thats where they belong.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:34 p.m. CST

    you are all FUCKING NERDS

    by Dannychico

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    CALM DOWN PEOPLE....

    by YourPapi

    According to Nelson over on Bay&#39;s site, these "new" pictures are actually from October 2005...in other words older than the first pic we saw last week. Its obviousl from last week&#39;s photo that prime&#39;s face looks nothing like these "new" pics. In other words, these pics are null and void, they are OLD.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:39 p.m. CST

    according to Nelson....

    by YourPapi

    "BTW, even that Vegas tradeshow board is based on old design. These leaked drawings by acquired tfw2005 & AICN are old old drawings from initial concepts." So lets relax a bit guys...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    YourPapi

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Thanks for repeating something I already said and linked to earlier in this TB. DID YOU SEE THAT GUYS???

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST

    The flames are appropriate

    by Gorrister

    Optimus is totally flaming. Hollywoods first mainstream gay robot. At least, as gay as michael bay.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by YourPapi

    Sorry if I missed it mate.....didnt have time to read all the posts, Im at work :)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL BROWN AT FEMA

    by brokebackcowboy

    You&#39;re doin&#39; a heckuva job, Donnie! Bwaaahhahhahahahahaa!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:05 p.m. CST

    YourPapi

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    No worries.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:07 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STINGRAY SHOOTS CROC HUNTER FIRST

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:09 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A POTATO SACK ON ADRIANA LIMA

    by brokebackcowboy

    Don&#39;t fuck up a good thing, Donny Two Chins.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOHNNY DEPP AS WONKA

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:12 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HILLARY IN &#39;08

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:12 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A HOLE IN THE LAST CONDOM

    by brokebackcowboy

    It sucks, do you get it Donny?!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = IRAQ HAVING NO W.M.D.&#39;s

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:15 p.m. CST

    THe new name for Don "ainitshot" Murphy

    by Phategod2

    Donny Two Chins! has that Mobster, Dick tracy feel to it from now on thanks to BBCB Don "ainitshot" Murphy shall be referred to a Big Donny two chins.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:15 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BIN LADEN STILL ALIVE

    by brokebackcowboy

    It&#39;s been 5 years for fuck&#39;s sake!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DUCK HUNTING WITH DICK CHENEY

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:18 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STEVE BARTMAN TRYING TO CATCH FOUL

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:18 p.m. CST

    PhateGOD2

    by brokebackcowboy

    Spread the word dude! Donny Two Chins! hehe

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:19 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEAN HANNITY

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:19 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= SNAKES ON A PLANE OPENING BOX OFFIC

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:20 p.m. CST

    "Priiime! Can you transform?"

    by BrandLoyalist

    Scatman Crothers was the first to ask this question - but it was because Optimus was injured and low on delicious energon, not because he was pointy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:21 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ROSA PARKS SENT TO BACK OF BUS

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:22 p.m. CST

    ROFL elmore rigby!

    by Flux_brown

    good one!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:23 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EURO-FUCKING-DISNEY

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:24 p.m. CST

    RE...

    by ewokstew

    TARDED.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:27 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANN COULTER IN A BIKINI

    by brokebackcowboy

    My EyeS!!!!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:28 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS JOKES

    by Flux_brown

    somebody had to say it :)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:28 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= TAKE BIG FREAKING CHILL PILLS

    by Lobanhaki

    Somebody&#39;s going to have to explain to me how a multi-ton robot transforms into a five pound hand-gun. It works if you&#39;re drawing it, but in three dimensions next to people and vehicles that move with weight and physics to them, it becomes a different matter. The real test is how the final rendered product looks, and how the transformations work out in the film.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:29 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAIR ON ANGELINA JOLIE&#39;S CHEST

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:30 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FUCKIN STINGRAYS!

    by Flux_brown

    i still can&#39;t get over it...RIP croc hunter!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Lobanhaki

    by brokebackcowboy

    "... explain to me how a multi-ton robot transforms into a five-pound hand-gun" .... It is the same principle that applies to my penis. A BWAHAHHAAHAAAAHHHAAHAH!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:32 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BROKEBACKCOWBOY

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Dude! Cut. It. Out.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:33 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SUPERMAN IV

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:34 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY & KID IN SHIT-FILLED DIAPER

    by Badger999

    It is funny because it is true. http://tinyurl.com/h3xjk

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by brokebackcowboy

    Can I get a few more out of my system? I had too much coffee tonight ...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY&#39;S BLADE 2 REVIEW

    by Badger999

    What an... inexplicable "review." http://tinyurl.com/es5a2

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Elmore Rigby

    by brokebackcowboy

    That was fun dude ...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:40 p.m. CST

    brokebackcowboy

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    What a caffeine whore. Take it over to the Megatron TB. I&#39;m sure the guys would love the extra posts on the tally.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:41 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MOCHA FRAP AT 11:30PM

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Venti too ... woooooohooooooo!!!!!

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:48 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL JORDAN WEARING #45

    by Elmore Rigby

    instead of #23

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Did anyone answer that ad about Bush?

    by brokebackcowboy

    I clicked NO and got a free dinner at the Olive Garden!!! WWWWEEEEEEEE!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = KEN LAY IS NOT DEAD

    by brokebackcowboy

    He&#39;s hiding in Crawford, TX!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Complaining about Flames=Chronic Masterbatur

    by ganymede2010

    Believe it!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHEN YOU WANNA WACK OFF

    by brokebackcowboy

    AND ALL YOU GOT IS GRANNY PORN. Donny Two Chins sleeps with the fishes.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:55 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIRST 90 MINUTES OF KING KONG

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Flux HA HA . You&#39;re giving Sean Hannity to much credit!

    by ganymede2010

    Hannity is more like the oily grease lubricating the gyrating quantam couplings inside of Primes exo-colon!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JAKE LLOYD AS FUTURE DARTH VADER

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Hey AICN guys

    by brokebackcowboy

    Can we get a separate FLAME ON OPTIMUS TB?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:03 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = 2006 VMA AWARDS

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Why go anywhere else. This thread has been Hijacked!

    by ganymede2010

    By the Flame whinners!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHH MOMMY I WANT NO FLAMES WAHHHHHHH

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:04 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PARIS HILTON SINGING

    by brokebackcowboy

    Oh Jesus, why have you forsaken us?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m not hijacking this thread Gany

    by brokebackcowboy

    I&#39;m exercising my first amendment rights, biotch.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:07 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MAKE-UP ON GANYMEDE

    by brokebackcowboy

    Bitch you need an extreme makeover!!!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:09 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DOUBLE DRAGON ON YOUR RESUME

    by brokebackcowboy

    Donny Two Chins you need to omit that little factoid if you expect to be successful.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:10 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEMON DAVE MAKING A MOVIE

    by brokebackcowboy

    Some things should never come to pass.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Optimus Prime is a flaming queer!!!!!!!!!!

    by Cotton McKnight

    Look at that picture and search your feelings. You KNOW this to be true.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SOPHIA COPPOLA IN GODFATHER 3

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Brokeback Prime

    by Cotton McKnight

    Optimus and Megatron making love on a mountain in Wyoming. Wild, wacky stuff.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Brokeback, I wan&#39;t attacking you Bro!

    by ganymede2010

    I&#39;ve been laughing my ass off reading your posts. Keepem comming. The flames look awesome to me though:)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Okay I think the caffeine is wearing off ...

    by brokebackcowboy

    I never even watched Transformers for cripes sake ....

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Two words: Butt Ugly.

    by superninja

    Congrats, dilberts. The more we see, the uglier it gets. Great marketing work!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Funny, brokeback.

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Cotton

    by brokebackcowboy

    HEHEE Optimus Prime&#39;s dick gets shredded by Megatron&#39;s spiny ass! BWWAHAHAHAHHAAA!! Robots need love too you know. I:Robot kicked ass. Someone give Alex Proyas more work.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:18 a.m. CST

    And nothing can save that horrible script.

    by superninja

    Truly, the designs reflect that turd of a script.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Ganymede

    by brokebackcowboy

    I&#39;m sorry. You&#39;re not a biotch and you don&#39;t need an extreme makeover. Are you hot? Can you send me a pic?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Hi. Just change the name of the movie,

    by superninja

    remove all references to Transformers, and we&#39;ll call things square.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:21 a.m. CST

    How many apologist that think G1&#39;s "blocky"

    by Phategod2

    designs would not work, would have shit to say if they went with a traditional design? IF prime and megs looked like prime all the Ganymede&#39;s and Allseeingeyes of the world would shut the hell up We would all say that looks cool Bay&#39;s is getting it done right and there would be a total of about 100 post instead we get shit ball on top of shit ball and we get these Apologist who will pay to see anything slightly resembling Transformers becaused there either hard pressed for a TF movie, they want to see a Macross movie and they think this is the only way to start that trend, or just want to see the next "Mike-bay-blow-shit-up-movie" next summer I implore you to demand more from hollywood, demand more for your $8-$10. This movie is a big slap in the face of the G1 transformers cartoon, And if you honestly thought Electra, and catwoman sucked then how can you enjoy this.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Nelson at M. Bay&#39;s Blog Strikes Again!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Regarding the "leaked" images - quote: "I spoke with him (Bay) today and he mentioned something that caught me off guard in regards to the design and functionality of both the Deceptiocons and Autobots. I was silent for about 5 seconds after his statement....until he asked me if I was still on the phone. I&#39;m was left thinking...WTF??? Really? "How...". He had just thrown one at me from left field. I said, "really?....but don&#39;t they...". "You won&#39;t know until you see the movie" he said. So...those drawings are a shadow of the final product. AND "What i meant to say was these are not movie renderings, as opposed to some 3D off the shelf software." *** Regarding the script - quote: "This once again reminds me how old are these scripts people claim they have. If someone truly had the "current" shooting script, people would be leaking massive details not found in the old scripts." AND "The 2/28/06 script was much older than the actual altered date on it." I think Roberto Orci was right on when he kiddingly said "you guys don&#39;t know what you&#39;re talking about."

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Phategod2 here&#39;s my Challenge to you sir!

    by ganymede2010

    Find me one, just one, of those amatuer G-1, Homemade animations where the blocky desigs walk. Not taking one step, I mean walking. Everyone I seen shows them Transform and they just stand there. If you show me one, then I&#39;m sold.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Link it here:

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    http://tinyurl.com/hh8op

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:25 a.m. CST

    The reason why they should stick with the G1

    by brokebackcowboy

    designs is because when the robots are in disguise, they look like trucks, guns, boomboxes, what have you. Ordinary things. But when they transform, they need to have the PERSONALITY AND CHARACTER of the robots they really are, not have all the truck parts like tires and mufflers and transmissions showing. At that point the fact that they are just machines stands out too much to the audience, and they cannot convey their personalities. How is that, Phatgod? I never watched TF but I remember the characters alright.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:26 a.m. CST

    The overly busy and I-am-squishing-your-head

    by superninja

    helmet design is bad enough, but then you remove his face place and that is baboon butt ugly! Oh, this is now becoming comical.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Phate, this won&#39;t be Elektra bad...

    by ganymede2010

    Rather you like the designs or not. The action will be unparalled. And you know it.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:28 a.m. CST

    um, here you go Gany:

    by superninja

    http://www.audiobots.net/

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Obviously they could be much better,

    by superninja

    but they demonstrate that you can get a range of motion with the blockier shapes and also cheat on a Transformation (not be so literal) and still have it look cool.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:39 a.m. CST

    why don&#39;t blocks work in 3D

    by slappy jones

    I don;t understand that argument? people keep saying "oh blocky looking robots wouldn&#39;t work in live action 3D photoreal cg" why not?? here is the new theme song.I want transformers not Overly Complicated Changebots. I will only refer to them as that from now on.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Darth_Baltar

    by Fernwick_

    Piss on you Firefly hater. Now, just to clarify, if Jessica Alba had a zit on her ass I would be the luckiest man on earth to be able to suck the puss out of it (as long as I got laid afta) :) Fernwick www.theidiottestament.com

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Best amatuer vid I&#39;ve seen Superninja!

    by ganymede2010

    But understand, those blocky designs would translate horribly in a real world enviorment. The Anmimation is sick though. I&#39;m going to save this video. So when the trailer comes out and we see how a "real world" Transformer moves. I&#39;ll be posting this video to remind of how amazing Bay/ILM really are;) And how this vid pales in comparision. But Starscream still sucks ballz though. You won&#39;t see me defend that piece of shit. But I&#39;m defending Megs,Prime, and Bays other translations until the bitter end. You guys don&#39;t understnad how awesome this film is going to be. This will the be Trilogy to dethrone LOTR/Spiderman/X-men. Because the Transformers is the best science fiction saga ever told. It was Starwars until Lucas jugg fucked it.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Nelson at Bay&#39;s Site

    by Playhouse

    That just stinks of cover-up and misdirection. No, sir. I would not be surprised to find out that the script - with some names changed and a few inconsequential bits (aka the Flaming Furbies) added - is nearly note and word perfect to what we&#39;ve read and these leaked designs are far closer to final than they are trying to play off. Seriously, it sounds like a kid who just got busted in a lie. "No, man, that&#39;s the old stuff. No, really. Seriously. You&#39;ve gotta see the new stuff. It so kicks the other stuff&#39;s ass. And it&#39;s way different. I mean, you just don&#39;t even know...." And as for the transformations, I just worry that it&#39;s going to be that sloppy gobbledegook they used to "transform" the movie title in the teaser trailer. That&#39;s how they&#39;re going to explain that their shit is all over the place now.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Even if they do change the dialogue, it&#39;s

    by superninja

    still the same crappy plot that is a mess with cliched characters. The scenes they were filming in Downtown LA follow the script exactly! Even the character arcs from Quint&#39;s visit.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:58 a.m. CST

    You can&#39;t polish a turd, gany.

    by superninja

    And that script is a floater! :D

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:01 a.m. CST

    gany

    by blackwood

    It&#39;s jugg "fuckled", and you&#39;re a damn spy.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:11 a.m. CST

    The leaked script was awfully short though

    by ganymede2010

    You know Bay likes to shoot long friggin movies. And that script was way to short to be the final draft. But there&#39;s a positive to all the negative fan reaction. That will make Bay/ILM work that much harder to prove that they have a solid product.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:13 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = VAGINAL FARTS

    by brokebackcowboy

    It ruins the mood like a wrecking ball!!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:18 a.m. CST

    JThomasC - You&#39;re My Frikkin&#39; Hero!!

    by -=Shin=-

    Really, I think you summed up my feelings perfectly.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GIADA DELAURENTIIS WITH A YEAST

    by brokebackcowboy

    INFECTION.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:23 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = AICN DATABASE UPGRADE

    by brokebackcowboy

    Did u guys outsource to India or something?!?!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:23 a.m. CST

    The girls&#39; crotch was so haggard...

    by DOGSOUP

    ...it looked like Megatron smiling.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:26 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIRST TIME YOU GOT CAUGHT MASTURBAT

    by brokebackcowboy

    ING BY YOUR MOTHER. Search your feelings. You know, don&#39;t you?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:29 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= HARRY TAKING NEPHEW TO R-RATED MOVIE

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Blackwood I wish I was a spy

    by ganymede2010

    Then I&#39;d actually get paid for waisting my time trolling internet forums.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:55 a.m. CST

    This is so sad...

    by cerebulon

    If Sam Raimi had done to Spiderman, what Michael Bay is doing to the Transformers, Spider-Man would have been a black kid named Devon Jackson who turned into a werehyena whenever there was a half moon.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:05 a.m. CST

    NO SOUNDWAVE=FLAMES ON OPTIMUS

    by DOGSOUP

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Maybe they will make the eyes glow?

    by General_Mortimer

    All the TFs we&#39;ve seen so far have awful eyes, so maybe they will be lights in the finished models? Just a thought.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Who wants to make a bet?

    by Knightsong

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:20 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL BAY DIRECTING TRANSFORMERS

    by Dead-Kid

    Oh... too late :(

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Ofcourse the eyes will glow!

    by ganymede2010

    That&#39;s why I&#39;m sure these are early renderings. The final product is going to showcase the glowing eyes. That&#39;s the perfect way to elict emotions from a robot on film. As it did in the Cartoon.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:22 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SLEDGE HAMMER ON UNITED 93

    by Mr Clarke

    Why would you do that?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Devon Jackson? Werehyena??

    by Dead-Kid

    That&#39;s comic book fried gold!!! I&#39;m securing the rights and drawing that mutha right now!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:23 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY&#39;S BLADE 2 REVIEW

    by Kampbell-Kid

    After a year of stroking the clitoris/Hollywood hype machine, Micheal Bay&#39;s vaginal discharge in 2007 will be the biggest cocaine/viagra induced pyrotechnic orgasm ever seen on the silver screen. You all know Optimus Prime&#39;s flames make him the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Who wants to make a bet?

    by Knightsong

    Who wants to bet that once the film is out, or close to its release, it will be revealed that the "Robots in Disguise" will actually turn out to be alien beings inside of robots. Here&#39;s my idea: When the atmosphere of Mars began to fail, the indiginous alien species there had to find a way to survive so they placed their bodies, organs, or whatever inside of giant robots that could sustain them. Any takers?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Here&#39;s the Problem...

    by ckone

    So,Bay and co. are actually reading some of these talkbacks, and I hope that is true. But, when every other one is littered with "this movie is shit" kind of talk, the REAL Critique gets lost. We need to explain to them that, the need to have Optimus look LIKE Optimus, outweighs the need to have him be as REAL as possible. After all, this is a movie about ALIEN robots that crash land on earth and then TRANSFORM into CARS and TRUCKS and PLANES and TAPE DECKS!! I think my suspension of disbelief has already been placed on the highest setting,I have fond memories of Transformers when I was growing up, And Optimus WAS THE SHIT. G-1 Optimus. He doesn&#39;t NEED flames. I keep looking at the design and say to myself, I don&#39;t mind the robotechiness..but the flames just keep sticking out as a bad bad choice. That&#39;s the thing, I don&#39;t mind if they toy with the design a bit, but how come you gotta mess with such a simple design so much that he doesn&#39;t even LOOK like Optimus. I mean, he doesn&#39;t, aside from him being red and blue, and having a shield mask type thing. Other than that , he doesn&#39;t LOOK like Optimus. You should be able to look at that pic, and feel like you are 12 again. Instead, I look and go, eh..I guess it will look cool when it moves..but the flames are lame, they just are. The over abundance of tech-y-ness is a bit over the top for me, but I could live with that, if the paint job was right. It just doesn&#39;t make sense. It&#39;s like a story I remember reading, about Nic Cage, when he showed his kid an image of Tim Burtons Superman costume, he goes "look it&#39;s Superman" and the kid goes "no it&#39;s not, Superman wears red and blue and has a cape, that&#39;s not Superman, and where&#39;s his underwear?" (these aren&#39;t exact quouted mind you, just a retelling of something I read a while back). But the point is this, if I have to struggle to see Optimus in that pic, then the job just isn&#39;t getting done. Another thing also,especially from these talkbacks, is when people are excited about something, you see it here, but when they aren&#39;t or if the overwhelming feeling is negative, then we get a festering pool of hate posts, but I can&#39;t blame these guys. It just doesn&#39;t say Optimus, Bay and co, C&#39;mon, give us Optimus PRIME! You still have the time, I&#39;m betting that there is a G-1 version of him that you guys already made...just sitting there in your computer somewhere, that&#39;s the one we want. You have no idea how powerful that image would be to this movie. You HAVE to Get Prime right, as much as you need Bumblebee to emote, you need Prime to be PRIME. Fuck with Megatron all you want, shit make him and evil toaster! but give us OPTIMUS PRIME! I&#39;m kidding about the toaster thing by the way.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Sorry, but this is just plain bad, wrong AND stupid.

    by Primus

    It isn&#39;t Optimus - nuff said.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:39 a.m. CST

    <Ironhide> "Heh... nice flames." <Optimus> :-/

    by Kampbell-Kid

    Bay apparently added this to the script to wink at the fanboy appreciation for this project.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST

    oh dear

    by Fortunesfool

    Ironically it looks messy and makes no visual sense. Just like Michael Bays movies. My eye doesnt land on any one part of it. What a mess

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Well

    by Ridge

    Ive been keeping hope for a long time for this movie, and I guess I still will, but to quote the horse from Ren and Stimpy... "No Sir, I dont like it, I dont like it at all." The head looks STUPID. He looks like a god damn APE!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:46 a.m. CST

    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EMAIL ME THE SCRIPT OR A LINK?

    by Cameron1

    popculturekid@hotmail.co.uk ____ Thank you very much.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Nice..

    by Lemming

    I like it. Apart from the maskless shot. They look like gorilla nostrils.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:42 a.m. CST

    I rescind what I said about liking this

    by Lost Prophet

    because I don&#39;t. My problems with this film do not relate to the designs. They all stem from that god-awful rejected for Herbie script, but were heightened when I read the quint interview with that drug addled little turd that has creative control despite owning up to "finding it hard to imagine shit". i couldn&#39;t give less of a toss about flames on optimus, but I understand why people do. BTW FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= KID IN SUPERMAN RETURNS

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:44 a.m. CST

    This is wrong. Check this out....

    by LittleDudes

    They fucked it up! http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/comics-13

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Best. Photoshop. Ever.

    by LittleDudes

    http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5598/littlebayvi4.jpg

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:14 a.m. CST

    "And when you are done with those flames...

    by AGE IIX

    ...I want you to give him a pair of mongoloid eyes and some big as baboon nostrils" AAAGGHH!!! I CAN&#39;T GET MY HEAD AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? You know what... I am so glad that can&#39;t RAPE Soundwave and Wheeljack...maybe in part 2.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:44 a.m. CST

    How many polygons!?

    by tompbeast

    That&#39;s a fucking cool robot! and what&#39;s wrong with the flames? I&#39;ve only watched a few Transformer cartoon mainly to see what all the fanboy moaning is about and I&#39;ve got to say I&#39;d rather watch that thing stomping around that a few wobbly pencil lines.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Question

    by Pandas

    When all this Transformers stuff started getting leaked I was really surprised at how much debate and interest it generated, and how strong peoples&#39; reactions have been. I live in Britain and I can&#39;t remember Transformers generating anywhere near the love that a lot of you guys seem to have for it. Some people had the toys when I was a kid, and they were very popular at one time but I can&#39;t even remember the cartoon apart from having seen episodes of it within the last year or two. For a lot of you guys it seems to have been a major part of your lives. I know that most people I know of about my age wouldn&#39;t care in the slightest that the designs had been changed. In fact most of them don&#39;t seem to clearly remember what Optimus even looked like and certainly not any of the other characters. So, I was just wondering if any other Brits could tell me, was it that big over here and my town was an exception or was it just never such a big thing in the UK? I&#39;m not putting you guys in the US down for complaining, I know I would be very upset if something iconic from my childhood was changed, I&#39;m just interested how much bigger a phenomenon it seems to have been over there.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:57 a.m. CST

    the flames

    by Lost Prophet

    as I said, tompbeast, they don&#39;t particularly bother me. However, I uderstand why people are upset. Imagine if Superman were given a new costume. They decided to base it on the classic one that everyone recognised as they wanted to tie it in to the property. Having seen this, they then decide that it isn&#39;t jazzy enough so keep the same underpants outside his tights deal, but change the colour scheme to Flashier more extreme colours, and equipped him with a pair of aviator sunglasses. Yes, if you look at it, it is still recognisable as superman, but it is also intrinsically wrong. It tries to improve upon an iconic image, and therefore defaces the icon. The same applies here. Hope that was clear

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:59 a.m. CST

    It wasn&#39;t anywhere near as big here.

    by Lost Prophet

    I remember it well, but don&#39;t remember the cartoon. My problems with it are that it is a piss poor script directed by the man that made Pearl Necklace and I really do not want a repeat of this summer&#39;s tepid offerings next summer. This will be shit, and there is enough shit on the screen already.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Transformers was pretty big in Australia too

    by messi

    Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Bumblebee are all &#39;iconic&#39; characters that people remember. and alot of mainstream just grew up with G1 fans which is just about everybody(the other incarnations were not so successful in Aus) are not happy with Megatron and the flames on Optimus.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:02 a.m. CST

    The flames suck because

    by messi

    it is a blatant example of Bay trying to dumb the movie down for lowest common denominator people. It is just for attraction, &#39;to highlight his midsection&#39; what a bunch of lies. And it reflects on the rest of the movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:09 a.m. CST

    that&#39;s basically what I was trying to get across

    by Lost Prophet

    pointless, unnecessary and distracting- a pretty accurate description of Michael Bay. BTW, Transformers were big here, just not as big as in America.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Transformers was Huge in HOLLAND!

    by AGE IIX

    Atleast everybody that had SKY. I would get up at 06:00 in the moring to watch FUN FACTORY (saturday moring cartoon heaven!) and at 11 TRANSFORMERS began and it BLEW MY MIND! to me the concept of robots transforming in to everyday objects was the coolest thing EVER! Go to any 25 year old and over and ask them to do the voice of the blue cassetplayer and they can do it...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:45 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = "WAHHHH" + "MOM&#39;S BASEMENT INSULTS"

    by foree forehead

    they do

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7 a.m. CST

    Even

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    if Bay or Murphy or the flacks and execs see all this negativity, and even if they aren&#39;t dillusional to ignore it as just fanboy whining, they are still going to look at the number of posts, and amount of passion generated by this shit, and be happy as fuck, knowing that a long, gigantic talkback, negative or positive, is better than a short, uninterested one. The only way they&#39;ll be affected is if you don&#39;t open your wallet up to this come summer 2007. Any thought of putting fear into them for the piece of shit they&#39;re creating is going to go in one ear and out the other... I mean, these are the fucking idiots who came up with this design in the first place, what makes you think they&#39;d be smart enough to change it, even in the face of the shitstorm we&#39;re giving them?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:01 a.m. CST

    General Grievous is back!

    by masterchappy

    The Star Wars Transformers are going to duke it out with those faggoty Bay Transformers in a battle to the poo-doo death. Oh my! The drama. The action. The explosions. Dane Cook? My asshole drips bloody fecal matter like a faucet dripping water. Please &#39;Hollywood&#39;, shove a cattle prod up my ass next time and spark that fucker up instead to cook my insides. SHAMEFUL. (and yah - I dare you fuckers to make those things into fully functioning TRANSFORMING toys.)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Bay doesn&#39;t care about nostalgia for geeks

    by board shitlez

    because the core audience of this film will be younger than you - and they want a cool truck - not a small red one from the 80s. Do you really think your misty eyed whining is going to affect the decisions made here?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:24 a.m. CST

    It&#39;s.....

    by GRRRR

    ...grrrrreat!!! I personally can&#39;t see the big fuss over this movie. It&#39;s like SOAP in reverse. But I guess if they made Spidey&#39;s suit pink and put flames on it I would also be pissed... The thing is it was a cartoon, like 25 years ago. Maybe I was just to young thats why I can&#39;t get so worked up. But the talkbacks are still fun to read so please, continiue!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Plus...

    by GRRRR

    ...the whole concept was based on toys. I&#39;m pretty sure 99% of the new toys will be bought by kids. That&#39;s why they are aiming it to a new market. Hence the changes. Would anybody under 15 know what a tape deck is????? F-15 was (IS) cool back then but nowadays there are more modern planes. I have a feeling my head is going to be ripped off....

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:36 a.m. CST

    I am getting a bit sick of explaining this

    by Lost Prophet

    but once more (with feeling) just for knowthyself. I (and I presume everyone else) are well aware that the Geek audience is not stronge enough to (sadly) sink this stinking fucking film. However, lots of people that post here go to see films at full price on multiple occasions. There was even some sad cunt that paid to see that turgid pile of excreta Superman Returns 20 times. People that are fans of transformers would also have bought the DVD- including the double/triple dipping special editions, and the toys that go with it. Therefore, it is incompetence on a huge scale to eliminate a source of revenue when a compromise was so easily attainable. How fucking hard is it to not paint flames on an iconic figure? The other points relate to the behaviour of the likes of murphy, the downright lies, and the general hurt and contempt that people with a strong emotional attachment to the property feel. None of this makes a blind bit of difference to you apologists- you always come out with the same "Well fuck you- it doesn&#39;t need your cash" line. True, it doesn&#39;t need it, but that is not to say they don&#39;t want it. The other apologist arguments (we haven&#39;t seen it, realism, BIG ROBOTS GO BANG BANG, etc) are also easily despatched. For the record- 1) realism, just doesn&#39;t wash the whole film is about alien robots. 2) true, we haven&#39;t seen it- but after that interview with that nauseating little cretin I have seen enough, 3) BANG BANG is horseshit on the basis that the produciton staff have repeatedly said it is a film about that little turd getting his first car. It just is depressing that the fans opinions make no difference at all. I hope nonsensical and the rest of them create a brilliant film that stays true to their vision so best of luck.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet-thx again

    by tile_mcgillus

    Do you think we could just copy and paste that about every 20 posts so these BANG BOOM fellas stop showing up and spouting their bullshit.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:53 a.m. CST

    maybe I should

    by Lost Prophet

    and I missed out loads of the minor arguments.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:55 a.m. CST

    does anyone even care?

    by ZO

    this may be the lamest project in years

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:59 a.m. CST

    art!

    by foree forehead

    i love it when people come on here and claim to know what is and what is not art. art, hahaha, ffs.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:01 a.m. CST

    And bonehead post of the day goes to:

    by Lost Prophet

    ZO. Loads of people care- take a look at the numbers of posts in these TB"s. Personally, I wasn&#39;t a fan- but I hate to see some people&#39;s pet fan topic get abused. I am also sick to death of sub-standard shit being pushed on to screen to be gleefully lapped up by the likes of googamooga which results in us getting summer releases like we got this year. I want some quality, and I want people&#39;s favourite properties to be respected. The two are not necessarily seperate.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:09 a.m. CST

    ZO

    by BLWiseass

    yes lots of people do care, and it COULD have been one of the coolest big budget summer movies of all time, but it appears that pretty much every single production decision was botched. Oh and lost prophet, well said. I can&#39;t see how the masses of 12 year olds will be MORE interested in Prime with flames, but it is clearly evident that those of us who grew up on G1 are putt off by the terrible paint job. Here&#39;s hoping Bay and Murphy stop being arrogant assholes and correct a mistake or two. That being said, it seems as if the project is beyond saving. The project went from being "transformers" to a story about a boy getting his first car. What. The. Fuck.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:10 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TOM CRUISE AS AUSTIN POWERS

    by BRUTICUS

    my 2 cents :)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:18 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHOWGIRLS

    by brokebackcowboy

    How do you make naked women unsexy?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:27 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON TOPIMUS =

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:31 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = KEVIN FEDERLINE&#39;S CAREER

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:33 a.m. CST

    His eyes suck

    by HollyW00d

    the eyes need to go

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Believing This Will Make Money

    by Playhouse

    I love this belief that this movie is going to make gobs of money. I just don&#39;t see it. People will show up to see it the first weekend and then it will drop like a stone afterwards. While there is certainly a lot of hubbub from the geek community over this (and it&#39;s a lot larger than most of the tsk-tskers are giving it credit for), the reactions of many in the general public who caught the teaser trailer indicate that this isn&#39;t the next great American film. People were ho-hum, people weren&#39;t paying any attention, and worst of all, there were plenty who were outright laughing. I&#39;m a fan but let&#39;s face reality. This concept had an uphill battle to really attract an audience to begin with. Now that they are making what, from all accounts, appears to be a mediocre film with lots of explosions - on the belief that the audience is going to eat it up because it&#39;s "giant fucking robots fighting" each other - they&#39;ve resigned this film to one of many underperformers I&#39;m sure we are set to see next year and next summer particularly.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:38 a.m. CST

    What&#39;s Sad (Thoughts Cont.)

    by Playhouse

    What&#39;s sad is they could&#39;ve made such a great film from the concept if they hadn&#39;t settled for the Lowest Common Denominator. They could&#39;ve made something that had legs and drawing power. I know people probably hate to see this example but take a look at Lord of the Rings. Talk about your big geek project. They knew they had that audience. What hooked everyone else in was that the films were quality. It was the perfect balance of what the geeks wanted and needed out of films and being accessible to the general public. Transformers could&#39;ve been exactly the same. Yet they decided to piss off the geeks and decided to make yet another middling blow-&#39;em-up action film for the masses. This will do fair its opening weekend (especially being the holiday) but people will tune out afterward.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:39 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PARIS HILTON SINGING

    by tile_mcgillus

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CATWOMAN"S COSTUME: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LXG: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BACKSTREET BOYS&#39;S VIDEO CATALOG: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FLOCK OF SEAGULLS HAIR: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAMILY RESTUARANT BUFFETT: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SPIDER CLONE: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DARTH VADER SCREAM.....man this could just go on and on

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Playhouse, you&#39;re right

    by tile_mcgillus

    This has became the quintessential example of squandered potential.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    If you guys have negative/postive things to say...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    ...and you want to be heard, I would recommend you start to post on the official movie website&#39;s message board. They have two sections purely devoted to Rants and Raves. So far, it looks like there are more Rant threads...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Why not just call them "The Molesticons" ?

    by Ricky Henderson

    That&#39;s pretty much what&#39;s going down here...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST

    I agree playhouse

    by Lost Prophet

    about huge swathes of the public finding the concept laughable. However, they are obviously aiming at the teen market so fuck the rest. There are (sadly) massive amounts of people (googamooga, deadlegend, ganymede et al) that think a Michael Bay film with BIG ROBOT GO BANG BANG "Fuuukin&#39; RAWKS" and they will go and see it. No-one can seriously delude themselves that the Geek Market can sink a film, as it obviously can&#39;t. However, it can be a useful tool to create a positive buzz. The gross incompetence on every level of this film (from marketing/ PR, writing, direction, acting, production, design) is absolutely astounding. I am just shaking my head in disbelief that these fuckers all seem to be able to hang on to highly desirable jobs. It is unbelievable.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9 a.m. CST

    mng

    by tile_mcgillus

    Can you give me a direct link to the message boards, I am at work and can&#39;t access flash sites.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Transformers will set an example: Don&#39;t f*ck w/fans.

    by GibsonUSA

    Transformers, it seems, will be "THE EXAMPLE." Movie studios and those in the business don&#39;t seem to learn by warning. They learn by example. Batman & Robin is an example of what happens when you mess with a good thing. Transformers 2007 will be the example of what happens when you mess with its fans. It will be the example of what happens when you take a long term and beloved franchise, and arrogantly turn on its fans while feeling invincible...feeling as if a blockbuster is guaranteed. I am a Michael Bay fan and Don Murphy honestly seems like a decent guy, but by what has gone on so far it looks like the studio feels it doesnt need to cater to the fans AT ALL, or respect franchise standards whatsoever. They seem to think that when the trailers/commercials hit with all their special effects, explosions, and rock music, all will be forgiven. Transformers 2007 will be an interesting case study for future students of the industry on what happens when a studio arrogantly kills a franchise&#39;s image then and spits on its fans. I have never seen this before...usually a studio making a comic book movie will do what it takes to maintain good relations with the comic&#39;s fans and respect franchise standards. Here, they are basically telling Transfans to shove it. I believe they have underestimated our power. Transfans are HUGE HUGE in number and now have TEN months to tell everyone they know, online and off, to reject this movie. Not to mention all the sleeping fans who will be in shock when they see Megatron for the first time next July. Transformers 2007 will be THE EXAMPLE......why did it have to be The Transformers, though? :(

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    tile_mcgillus

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Likewise. However, I took a look at their messageboard last night and I&#39;ve got to say, the opinions being expressed there are identical to what&#39;s been said here and other places. I&#39;m convinced the production is aware of this "firestorm". What they choose to do about it is anyone&#39;s guess. Yet I can&#39;t shake the feeling that they know something we don&#39;t know...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Here you go, tile_mcgillus

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I did a Google for the boards and was able to find the direct link. This should bypass the Flash. --- http://boards.transformersmovie.com/index.php

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:30 a.m. CST

    MNG

    by Lost Prophet

    I disagree, they don&#39;t know anthing. They are just so convinced that they are right they don&#39;t care. Cheers for the link.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Thx Mr. Nice Gaius!

    by tile_mcgillus

    works perfectly.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:31 a.m. CST

    I&#39;d go one step further concerning these apologists

    by Ricky Henderson

    I&#39;d call them appeasers. Yes, appeasers. Bear with me, here&#39;s where I&#39;m gonna get a tab bombastic... Much like Neville Chamberlain feebly bowing down to the rise of fascism, so do people like Ganymede, et al., grovel at the feet of the movie industry. The lap up whatever they are given and ask for seconds, no questions asked. They lack the spine to stand up to something when things are clearly wrong. They mask their cowardly behavior with spite towards those who genuinely care enough to say something about it. Make no mistake, the entire movie industry is in a state of decline. People who are tired of being subjected to movies that are designed to appease the lowest common denominator are perfectly within their rights to say so. If I don&#39;t want to watch a movie tested and marketed for pimply 13 year olds, then goddamnit, I&#39;m gonna speak up. The entire Snakes on a Plane debacle taught us that hollywood will listen to the fans. Unfortunately, the movie didn&#39;t make much money, so that begs the question of wether or not hollywood will listen to the fans in the future. Reguardless, I&#39;m fairly certain that appeasers like Ganymede, et al., are making the situation worse by contributing nothing but their own blind desires to accept the status quo.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:32 a.m. CST

    I love it!

    by magnius

    I still love the new look...and it is growing on me more every time i see it. Fair enough megatron is a bit shit...but the rest look great!!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I don&#39;t know

    by BatCountry

    Looks kind of cool to me.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:33 a.m. CST

    If you want to see Transformers still...

    by DonkeyBalls

    ...get a bib, you&#39;re retarded

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:36 a.m. CST

    and with that from Ricky

    by Lost Prophet

    3 of them crawl out of the woodwork. Thanks for the input guys. I&#39;m glad you three are selfconfident enough to be part of the idiot lowest common denominator this film is aimed at. You keep Bay in coke. Thanks again, sincerely, thanks.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:40 a.m. CST

    I still get a kick out of the word "apologist" being...

    by Childe Roland

    ...thrown around in reference to anyone who refuses to hate on this movie. It&#39;s way early for that kind of insecure accusation. Sure, this movie could end up sucking balls. But you guys who spit venom and froth about the absolute, unavoidable certainty of that make me laugh. It&#39;s like someone broke open moviemack&#39;s egg sac and a thousand little creatures predestined to hate came pouring out, fingers in their ears, screaming "It&#39;s not the way I want it so it&#39;s going to be the worst thing ever!" Most people look back on moviemack&#39;s pre-Batman Begins rants (all based on an early draft of the script, a few out-of-context images and his precious memories of a very specific iteration of Batman&#39;s mythos, by the way) and think he was a pretty silly fucker. Just some food for thought. Personally, I&#39;m amazed that Harry hasn&#39;t weighed in with his pre-hate for this picture, and I applaud him for it. Now when he comes out and writes a review of it, I will be far more inclined to take him seriously (unless the movie does end up sucking balls and he writes some glowing fan letter, in which case we&#39;ll know what&#39;s up). Point being, I&#39;ve seen and heard things so far about this movie. Some -- like the Shia LeBouf interview and the images of Megatron and Starscream -- have made me nervous. Some -- like the images of Bumblebee and the more recent (than these dated pics) images of Prime -- have me excited and cautiously optimistic. I haven&#39;t read the script and I won&#39;t (because, as I said in another TF talkback, a script doesn&#39;t always give you the sense of the completed film -- just look at Tarantino&#39;s work). Between all of the as-yet unknowns and the inherent illogic of G1 purists (who seem determined not to acknowledge that any other legitimate versions of these beloved characters have ever existed), I just can&#39;t understand how it makes sense to hate this movie already. Adopting a wait and see attitude is a win-win. If it sucks, you get to be all righteously pissed and will likely hear more cries of "Amen!" after your rants than repeated pointings to the obvious fact that you can&#39;t possibly have any idea what you&#39;re talking about yet. And if the movie ends up being decent, you get to be pleasantly surprised. I&#39;m not asking you to drink the Kool Aid or anything, guys. I&#39;m advocating a reasoned approach to judging a film based on (and I know this is going to be tough to wrap your brains around) the way that film turns out when finished. If you already know all the pissing and moaning about how you would have preferred things be done isn&#39;t going to change the way they are being done, what&#39;s the point? I get the feeling some of you actually thrive on the negativity. That&#39;s just sad.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:45 a.m. CST

    CR--"apologist" isnt strong enough "appeaser" is better

    by Ricky Henderson

    And yes, I&#39;m going all out and comparing the movie studios to the Third Reich. Damn the torpedos. That&#39;s not excessively negative, is it? In all seriousness, I wanted this movie to be good. So did everyone else here. We&#39;re not negative, just disillusioned by what could have been.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:49 a.m. CST

    hmmm, Roland the voice of reason

    by Lost Prophet

    If this turns out to be great I will gladly eat humble pie. I have stood down before and will do so again. However, my feelings for it are that it is going to stink. Even taking this reasoned approach, can you see any defence for Murphy and Co&#39;s behaviour? the difference is: Moviemack was wrong, and just couldn&#39;t admit it. If I am wrong I will say so- like I had to over the Sienna Miller comment the other day. The film I am most excited about is Fierce People. But that doesn&#39;t ever seem to be getting a release in the UK. Which makes me far more sad than the Transformers fiasco.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Read this guy&#39;s post!

    by tile_mcgillus

    Really well worded and thought out: http://tinyurl.com/pl6w7

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I don&#39;t know. That Nelson guy is on the actual inside track. While he may be a smartass and understandably vague at times, he does speak with Bay directly. If Bay, Orci, and Nelson say the February script is oldnews and that these images of Prime (from 2005) are oldnews (including that poster image), I&#39;m inclined to think that there several differences in what we think we know and what we don&#39;t. Granted, I&#39;m sure certain plotpoints and design motifs will remain the same. But I can&#39;t shake the feeling that something else is going on with this production. And I wish I knew what that was...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:04 a.m. CST

    That script isn&#39;t "old news"

    by Ricky Henderson

    Not when you realize that major elements of it are being used in the current scenes they&#39;re shooting. Read the Shia LeBeof interview and look at all the images that have been leaked so far. You&#39;ll realize that the movie they&#39;re shooting is EXACTLY what was in that leaked February, 2006 script. They may change some dialogue, but that will be it.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST

    You can have hope this movie...

    by Optimus Murphy

    ...might be good, or even RAWK YA CAWK!!!!, but how could you do that unless you completely ignored Hollywood&#39;s pathetic track record with A. Sci-fi B. Action Films C. Franchises D. Film Adaptations of C.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Ricky Henderson

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I don&#39;t think anyone is arguing with you on that point. No one said they threw out that script entirely. We just don&#39;t know what&#39;s been changed and/or added.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:10 a.m. CST

    that post was great

    by Lost Prophet

    totally depressed in tone, but very articulate if misinformed. For a laugh, read down and an apologist appears- I stopped reading when he showed that he doesn&#39;t know what "penultimate means". I was laughing too hard. It is idiocy like that that the film is aimed at. MNG point taken, YB- why so quiet, you are not Bay&#39;s biggest fan. Have you been at the catnip again (I am determined to keep this going)?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Valid point MNG...

    by Ricky Henderson

    My apologies if I&#39;m getting a little too rabid (I&#39;d rather not become the new moviemack on this issue). Yackbacker had the right idea with his self-imposed exile on all transformers talkbacks...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Childe Roland

    by tile_mcgillus

    I completely understand what you are saying. However, a lot of what I have seen so far really sucks. I will see the movie but after the way Don Murphy acted, with such little regard for the fans, I will not pay to see it. I personally want to see it to watch the closest thing to a real life optimus prime speak (with Cullen&#39;s voice). Just that thought makes me happy. But to betreated with such disdain is sad when essentially there would be no movie without the avid fans keeping it alive for decades.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST

    "February, 2006 script."

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    If you read what Nelson stated, THAT script is older than the given date. The opinion of the writers seems to be that if the actual shooting script or key details of it had been leaked, they would have some major problems. Bottom line: they don&#39;t seem to concerned with that draft version. Make of that what you will.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Here&#39;s what we do know about the plot:

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Understood, Ricky Henderson...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Like Childe, I&#39;m trying (really hard!) to remain a voice of optimism...or at least reason. Nothing has convinced me one way or the other on this movie. *** Yackbacker, self-imposed exile? You big girl!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Here&#39;s what we do know about the plot:

    by Ricky Henderson

    damned enter key... anyway, we know the glasses are still in it (shia said so). Megs is still frozen for most of the movie (see the pic of him encased in ice). The climax still takes place in a crowded city street (set reports). The autobots still go to Sam&#39;s house to look for the glasses (more leaked pics of them ona yard). There still scenes in the middle east (more of Quint&#39;s set reports). So its tough to imagine what major plot changes they&#39;re going to make if any. Those are all major set pieces, so not much will be altered from the script to th final print of the film in my opinion.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST

    OMG, you&#39;ve got to be kidding me!

    by WacksOnWacksOff

    The gear on his 3rd left vertebrae is SOOOOO wrong! It&#39;s too small, wrong color, and nothing like the original! Is Michael Bay TRYING to piss me off?!!! This movie&#39;s gonna suck because of this insignificance!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:26 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PACINO&#39;S HAIR IN GODFATHER 3

    by FuriousStyles

    now THAT was almost as great a betrayal of the character as Flame&#39;s on Prime...............ok, we should be specific with what we want, so here goes.........I want SLAVISH OBEDIENCE to G1 - why? becuase it worked! - it reminds me of my childhood, it encapsulates so much cool 80s stuff eg big blocky robots, vocoder voices, laser guns, space travel, electro sound effects, good vs evil, Star Wars influences beyond belief, it had cool stories written by respected comic book writers, crazy transforming sound effects and the greatest theme song of all time.......I dont want slavish realism - I want good old fashioned high end Sci-Fi Fantasy - just like the Transformers that were popular...............and on that note - why make it for kids today when they dont even like the new Transformers series?..................and sadly, these TF movie designs look more like the new stuff than G1 - so tell me, how can that possibly be a good idea?...............these are not difficult concepts to understand................so far Bay, Spielberg, Murphy, DeSanto - the only thing you&#39;ve given me (a long time high paying TF fan) is Cullen and the rest is some crap YOU think is better than PROVEN HISTORY..............we all know with Bay making it, its likely to be bad, so it could atleast be source accurate as a consolation prize........we could have had Sin City, but it looks like we&#39;re getting Catwoman...........the Dreamwave comics showed how to modernise G1 the right way, but I doubt the team behind the film bothered checking them for research................this movie Prime is rubbish, and worst of all, he&#39;s the best looking of the bunch.......my girl took one look and said its like he&#39;s got a junk heap stuck to him.........please, any apologist/plant here - I dare you to tell me the new Prime looks cooler than this (and ofcourse it can work on film - movie magic and all that crap)........http://www.seibertron.com/images/comic/dw_poster_optimus1.jpg

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:28 a.m. CST

    But that&#39;s just it, Yack...

    by Childe Roland

    ...I don&#39;t see anyone really defending the movie. Because there&#39;s nothing to defend yet. It&#39;s not done and no one&#39;s seen it (I swear I made these same exact points to moviemack before Batman Begins came out). I&#39;ve offered possible rationalizations for some of the creative choices Bay has apparently made, simply because it bothered me to see other people type things like "there&#39;s no reason to change that" or "Optimus always looks like this" when those things simply aren&#39;t true (I&#39;m kind of a stickler for accuracy in reporting). But, truth be told, I would&#39;ve preferred to hear that Prime is going to look just like the Masterpiece toy and Megatron was going to be a tank (a gun seemed silly to me in the 80s and it seems even sillier now). However, given that Bay decided to redesign Prime and Megatron (yet again...seriously, both of these characters have had more cosmetic changes done over the years than Joan Rivers), I can&#39;t honestly say that I hate the Prime design (the one we see here or the apparently more recent one we saw a few weeks ago). In fact, I think it&#39;s kind of cool and am excited to see it all animated and doing its thing with Cullen&#39;s voice coming out of it. For this excitement I&#39;m self-delusional? For thinking that experience might make the movie worth seeing I&#39;m an apologist? I guess if thinking that helps you sleep better at night, more power to you. But, then, I don&#39;t feel the need to tear down someone else&#39;s completely subjective opinion about a facet of a concept neither of us has seen fully realized (putting us in no position to judge it yet) just to make myself more comfortable with my feelings. As for the excellent points raised by Optimus Murphy, you&#39;re absolutely right on Hollywood&#39;s track record in general. They&#39;re spotty in the A. and B. categories. They generally haven&#39;t handled their C. films well when it comes to video games and have been extremely hit or miss with comics (making D. kind of a redundant point). Aside from Sin City (an excellent piece of concept art but not a terribly good movie), Hollywood has never 100% faithfully adapted its comic book source material (I&#39;m not absolutely sure, but this may be Hollywood&#39;s first foray into basing a movie on a major toy franchise -- which could mean precedent isn&#39;t necessarily prescriptive -- but for now we&#39;ll treat it like a comic adaptation since there were Transformer comics). But we&#39;ve still managed to get some decent comic book movie adaptations. Spider Man isn&#39;t exactly the same as the one we know from the comics (either his standard or ultimate iterations). Neither were the X-Men (who even haters of X3 tend to agree were decently represented for a while). Batman certainly wasn&#39;t exactly like comic book Batman. Even Superman had some liberties taken with his powers in the Donner film(s). But fans (willing to give the new perspectives a chance) generally dug these cinematic interpretations. There&#39;ve been some serious misfires, no doubt (with some, like Daredevil, adhering pretty closely to the source material and still falling flat), but there is nothing in Hollywood&#39;s track record of comic book adaptations that indicates deviation from the source material automatically results in a bad movie or a box office failure.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:32 a.m. CST

    to think the movie Optimus started so well - check this

    by FuriousStyles

    does everyone remember how psyched they were when they saw this.........only makes this new shit sting worse.......http://www.crushcounty.com/con2005/images/Con%202005/19_prime.JPG

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:43 a.m. CST

    The best way to show our disdain for this is...

    by finky089

    Anyone think that maybe the most significant way the fanbase can really show its disdain for what Bay and co. have done to this property is to do "nothing." Show absolutely NO interest whatsoever. I mean, they are obviously intent on ignoring whatever the fanbase says. So no matter how much we yell or complain or suggest alternatives to what they&#39;ve done, they aren&#39;t goign to care. Up til now, i think enough noise has been made that they know the fanbase is unhappy, but they basically said "Fuck Off, fans"! So, what&#39;s the only way to prove ourselves right? Don&#39;t do anything. These pics and other such spoilers are turning up WAY too frequently now to just be a coincidence. Bay originally said they were keeping a itght lid on this stuff, and just as suddenly it leaks out all over. Almost seems like they wat the reactions. I say withhold any reaction. I mean, the only "bad" buzz for a huge production like this is No BUZZ at all. And yes, it&#39;s inevitable that the media will pick up on positive buzz put out by people like Don Murphy, especially as it gets closer to July 2007, but what does it matter of none of us that are unhappy with the production show up to buy tickets for this travesty? I mean, they can ignore the admonishments of "the fans&#39; all they want, but if opening weekend comes and goes and all they have to show for it is a $60MM gross that will drop 50% the following week (or more) when Pirates comes out, I think the "fans" will be the ones with the last laugh. Though it will be with a woeful tear for "what could have been". But, maybe I&#39;m just off me rocker.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST

    all valid points, Roland

    by Lost Prophet

    No-one has called you an apologist. There are 2 different types of people defending this. The likes of you, MNG and co who are trying to remain impartial and the "ITS GONNA FUUUKINNN&#39; RAAWK" brigade, epitomised by Ganymede and Googamooga. I agree, I cautiously like this optimus (flames and all), and I openly admit to not being able to tell cullen&#39;s voice from George W Bush&#39;s. All my problems with it stem from the script (which, in hindsight, I wish I hadn&#39;t read), that interview with Shia (comparing Bay to Kubrik- the little turd), and the behaviour of Murphy. I am also not a Bay fan. However, given that we do know what we know, there seems to be no denying the fact that this is not even remotely representative of it&#39;s source material, whereas the other examples did have some relation to it. The nearest film I can think of that deviates so far is Godzilla, which was terrible. All I want is some quality and some respect. I see why everyone is upset, and I agree that it is very hard to coherently defend something that is unsighted, but the ITS GONNA RAAWK lot drive me mad with their utter inability to put forth a reasoned argument.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Lost, that&#39;s b/c their arguments are as mindless as

    by finky089

    "all-&#39;splosions and no-character" movies they like to watch.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Thaks for understanding...

    by Childe Roland

    ...Prophet. I tend to ignore the "It&#39;s gonna rawk!" crowd, as I suspect half of them aren&#39;t even being serious. I should clarify, though: I&#39;m not saying it&#39;s HARD to defend a movie no one&#39;s sseen, I&#39;m saying it&#39;s impossible and pointless to do so. Just as it&#39;s impossible (and rather pointless, given Murphy&#39;s expressed attitude) to criticize and condemn that same unseen film. And on the source material issue: it&#39;s been made pretty clear (in an interview linked from a previous talkback...by superninja, I believe) that, although the writers said they intended to preserve certain character personality traits and specific relationship dynamics from G1, they were in no way attempting to make a movie adaptation of the G1 mythos or storyline. So a lot of the sense of betrayal and cries of "they fucked it up/didn&#39;t get it right" really aren&#39;t applicable to the film they&#39;re apparently trying to make. I&#39;m trying to take all of this into account and maintain some objectivity until I see the thing before I write it off as the most unholy cinematic abortion since "Nothing But Trouble."

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:04 a.m. CST

    why?

    by dopepope

    Why the hell can&#39;t they at least have the face look like Optimus? How hard would that be? Now he looks stupid. There&#39;s nothing cool about that face. Looks squished. Not feeling it. The body is different enough, but I can live with that. The face, looks dumb.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:07 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEVIN FARACI

    by PUGLIFE

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:09 a.m. CST

    or even superman returns

    by Lost Prophet

    It will have to try hard to top that piece of shit. I want to try to keep an open mind, but have been so incensed by Shia/ Bay/ Murphy that I am incapable of doing so. Any Bay film starts out with a major handicap with me, but the interviews, script (which as I said, was in retrospect, a mistake), and frankly lunatic behaviour of Murphy have embittered me against it. Curse my celtic temper.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:13 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FANBOYS BITCHING

    by moto

    You guys are like two year olds throwing a temper tantrum over a frickin&#39; cookie. You&#39;re bitching about an early concept design. You haven&#39;t seen any clips from the movie, any trailer, or even any finalized production/effects pics. Settle. Settle. Settle. I&#39;m a BIG GI fan... but I&#39;ll wait until I see the flick to bitch.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Chide Roland

    by messi

    problem is that none of the other incarnations of Transformers were as beloved or popular as G1. owned again.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:21 a.m. CST

    ganymede now i know you are a fuck

    by messi

    who says &#39;....Not&#39;? Using it is not nostalgic, just stupid and dated.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:25 a.m. CST

    what the hell is "nothing but trouble"

    by Lost Prophet

    If it is that shit I am pleased it passed me by, and Messi- I think you are missing Roland&#39;s point. He says that he is only trying to keep an open mind because at this stage he does not know enough to be pro or con. We, however, have read the script so know more. I think that he is saying in answer to my point about abuse of the source material, that as he doesn&#39;t know fuck all he won&#39;t comment until he does- he doesn&#39;t seem to know if it is G1 faithful or G456- ignorance being bliss. When it is released and turns out to be a disgrace to celluloid I am sure that he will be vocal in condemning it. I will however, sit back smugly and watch as the carcass of this much abused property is ripped to pieces by the TB hyena&#39;s with nothing more than a small "told you so". Can&#39;t wait.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    that damn dreamworks truck...

    by Staldo

    I have only ever seen pictures of that semi from the con with the black tarp on it. Is there a reason for that? It seems pretty gay to bring in a mack truck draped with a big ominous message and then never unveil the thing.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE ISLAND&#39;S GROSS

    by dead youngling

    nuff said

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Looks like a horse-face...

    by Immortal_Fish

    ...yet that never stopped folks from finding Sarah Jessica Parker sexy. Now that we have a completed image, I dunno, guys. It&#39;s kinda grown on me. He looks powerful, he has the classic helmet and mouth guard, and most important -- he&#39;s the classic red white and blue. Still not liking the flames, but that&#39;s small stuff IMO.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:05 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = COMPARING BAY TO KUBRICK

    by foree forehead

    god almighty

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    messi

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Childe Roland "owned again"? Hardly, dude.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Nothing but Trouble

    by NightArrows

    Nothing but Trouble was a turd from the early 90&#39;s that featured Demi Moore&#39;s sweet new jugs, and a prosthetic nose on Dan Akroyd that looked more and more like a penis as the film went on. Can&#39;t believe I saw that movie in the theaters! And as for "waiting to see this before I judge it as shit" Do you need to see dog shit come out of the dogs ass before you classify it as shit and step around it? If it smells like shit, and looks like shit, then it must be Bay&#39;s Transformers and there is no need to see the sphincter push it out.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Yo, moondoggy2u...

    by Cold Winter Wind

    That ain&#39;t a goatee, that&#39;s a soul patch!! Goatee&#39;s typically extend from the chin, this one starts at his bottom lip! Optimus with a soul patch, teeheeheeheehee... NOW I want to see this movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    I looked at that face...

    by Inframan76

    And saw the face of John Kerry. Not even the mighty Peter Cullen can save this movie now.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Plus post.

    by Cold Winter Wind

    In the the immortal words of Capt. Malcolm Reynolds - "Shiny!"

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Script is dated, an old draft, and not the shooting one

    by moto

    So stop acting like you guys are the knowing almighty. You, like everyone else here, don&#39;t know shit. You&#39;ve seen a few pics and read some interviews and have seen a description of a scene that probably takes up 60 seconds of screentime. The script you read is a dated first draft. Scripts go through SOOO many incarnations before the shooting draft and the studio will not let that one get into the wrong hands. You don&#39;t have enough info to be pro or con. Typical AICN reactions. And no, they are not going to make a movie that sticks strictly to the source material because the source material, storywise, isn&#39;t that good. I&#39;m sure the introduction of the Transformers will be jump started by the boy and his car story, but that doesn&#39;t mean that will be the WHOLE story. Studios will NEVER listen to "fan bases" because they don&#39;t know what they are talking about. They&#39;re too nit picky and don&#39;t understand that there&#39;s a MUCH larger demographic... i.e. the general audience. If they were to make a fanboy movie, the box office numbers would be so frickin&#39; low (ala SoaP). They will make it for everyone.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TURBO:A POWER RANGERS MOVIE

    by GibsonUSA

    They are probably going after the same crowd....

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:44 p.m. CST

    moto-So yor saying the script will go frm crap to good?

    by GibsonUSA

    So you&#39;re saying that there&#39;s a chance that the script, through rewrites, will magically turn from complete crap (as of Feb.06) into something GOOD? Shit to gold? Will the robot designs turn from shit to gold also?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:04 p.m. CST

    OLD Design

    by The Only Woj

    the mod on the Michael Bay forum said this and the other concept art is from late 2005. so while they will still look very similar to this, I&#39;m sure certain elements are being changed. remember, the summer trailer for Kong ... Kong looked a bit different come winter. the models themselves will change as the project gets closer to ending production.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Moto - You Ignorant...

    by NathanGrey

    ..Fuck. I wont even get into every scene and every pic has led to the script of Feb of &#39;06. My question to you is what evidence do YOU have that it is NOT the right script? Did Bay email you and say: "psssh I changed the script" and you immediately came here to post your garbage? Even if they changed two or three scenes, the plot is still the plot, "5 stories converging at the end" how about 5 piles of shit being piled on each other....

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Eh. Whatever.

    by Orbots Commander

    At the end of the day, Transformers is still an adaption of an 80&#39;s half-hour toy commercial. Everybody can&#39;t be that worked up over this little kid&#39;s movie, could they?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:16 p.m. CST

    A new concept image of PRIME WITH GUN

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    http://tinyurl.com/oeodg -- Here you go, kids. Here is more concept art detailing a weapon idea for Prime. This cements it for me that these images are all part of a "strategic leak".

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Have to agree with Gaius

    by RevSick

    I think these leaks are becoming more and more evident that they are strategic "Leaks" I think what we&#39;re seeing is a means of getting the fan base so down about the movie that when they see the trailer they have no other choice but to be excited about it. I think even these set visit&#39;s reek of being staged. There&#39;s too much info out on a project where they said they were going to be completely hush hush. I find it highly suspicious.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BROWN V. BOARD OF EDUCATION

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JUDAS BETRAYS CHRIST

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THOMAS JEFFERSON SLEPT WITH SLAVES

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:39 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = IF GLOVE DOESN&#39;T FIT U MUST ACQUIT

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST

    NathanGrey

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    That&#39;s just a dumb statement. Scripts go through many treatments and revisions. Sometimes, they will even go through a number of writers&#39; hands. We already know that several set pieces that followed the leaked script have been filmed. But we also know that co-headwriter Orci and Bay&#39;s own blog administrator, Nelson, have said that the Feb/06 draft is OLDER than that given date and that it is NOT the shooting script. Changes have been made. We just don&#39;t know what&#39;s been changed and to what extent. The people working on this production don&#39;t seem too concerned over the leaked version...and they are probably getting a kick out of fellas,such as yourself, tear their hair out over a script treatment that may have been significantly altered long ago.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Lost Prophet you&#39;ve ignored every logical argument!

    by ganymede2010

    As to way the 20 year old blocky designs will not work in a live action film. If the average movie goer was to see one of those blocky robots in action, they would be very dissatisfied. This movie is being made for a general audience, not the fanboi&#39;s. And don&#39;t give me the "Spiderman was done for the fans" no it wasn&#39;t. The Green Goblin sucked. Organic web shooters, no Gwen Stacy as his next door neighbor etc. There&#39;s so many things that Rami changed. A movie with a 200+ budget isn&#39;t made for a small group of fans who were between 5-12 when the series originaly aired. And it&#39;s very "illogical" for you to think a movie studio is going to do everything the fans instruct them to do. Take a look at Snakes on a Plane. They bent over backwards for the fans. How did the fans reward them? By not showing up.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Gany

    by RevSick

    Most of us don&#39;t care about them being "blocky" we care about them "resembling" the characters. Prime resembles Prime, so most of us are alright with it, would we prefer he look like G1 Prime, of course we would, but it&#39;s not a deal breaker so long as he looks like Prime. The others haven&#39;t faired as well, and that&#39;s where we have the issue, we want them to at least resemble the characters, not be exact representations.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    the toy commercial shit

    by Staldo

    needs to stop now. Not because it isn&#39;t true, but because it is getting so fucking old and every condescending cunt posts it thinking they&#39;re God&#39;s gift to the poor consumer-culture masses . Who gives a fuck what the origin of the franchise was. The fact is there are fans with expectations. As with any sci-fi universe, Transformers has evolved since its inception. When the argument gets too heated, people whip out the reductionist shit as if it&#39;s a trump card. Yes, I know, Lord of the Rings was awkardly written white catholic wish fulfillment and Wonder Woman was created by a psychologist to get girls to buy comics, but nobody reduces the importance of arguments concerning those properties because of that fact.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO A TOAD

    by Badger999

    ...when it gets hit by lightning?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Ganymede we&#39;ve been over this 1 million times....

    by Ricky Henderson

    The designs don&#39;t have to look like the original boxy G1 transformers to be faithful to the "spirit" of transformers. That method was what worked for Spiderman and it would work for this movie as well. I&#39;m fine with the idea of them making some minor changes to Prime, just keep certain elements in place. If they&#39;d gone with a flat nosed mack truck and the same basic face, I&#39;d be content. If you don&#39;t have anything new or original to contribute, please stop posting. People here are getting tired of explaining the same thing over and over to the haters.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Know

    by RevSick

    Why don&#39;t you crawl back in your cave Troll? No one on here is necisarilly taking themselves too seriously, it&#39;s called debate, and some of us can do it intelligently without resulting to calling out people as being "sad" or needing to "go get laid". Some people like having heavy handed discussions on politics, some of us prefer to do that with movies and things of a geekish nature, doesn&#39;t make anyone more sad than the other, except for Trolls, like you.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    The picture released last week is more current.

    by tile_mcgillus

    Okay after examining the picture from the banner and the concept art it is apparent what we are looking at. This is the final design, no doubt about it. BUT it is a drawing, not a 3d rendering. We all know this but look at that banner closer. Prime has weight, mass and lighting this is because it is the 3d model. All the gear shit works to make the robot form and should look bad ass in Live action. His face is darkened in the banner so I cant say for certain how that is going to look but I do not see any glowing eyes. The feet make since for a live action movie and the need to turn, bend and pivot. I still HATE the flames and want more body armor but this is actually pretty close to G1. Its the Megatron design that just needs shot in the head and left for dead.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Nitpicking

    by Playhouse

    If wanting character, plot, development, quality dialogue, lcear motive with healthy subtext and considerate narrative in a movie is nitpicking, then fuck yes, I am a nitpicker.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Death of the Big Budget Sci-Fi

    by cabsau

    Lord of the Rings was the reason I came to AICN. Transformers might be the reason I go. I mean are you people really into this thing? A movie based on an 80s cartoon based on a fricking toy for chrissakes? Do you guys not realize this thing is going to BOMB! ...and I&#39;m actually chiming in because I think this is so utterly ridiculous?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:09 p.m. CST

    likewise the trolls who presume all TF fans are virgins

    by Staldo

    I will tell Knowthyself what I tell any troll who makes a general statement that having sex more would change a fan&#39;s perspective:What I do in a Motel 6 room with a bottle of easy cheese, your mother, and an Australian sugar glider is my own damn business.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Cab

    by RevSick

    How is this any different then debating the quality of a plagaristic direct for DVD release, that would have gotten no attention had people at sites just passed it off as the usual plagaristic straight to dvd stuff? How is it any different then bashing the fuck out of X3 on a daily basis? It&#39;s a discussion, if you think it&#39;s silly then that&#39;s fine, don&#39;t post, ignore the thread.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST

    There are much worse things to base a movie on

    by Jak0lantern01

    like video games, for example. Has there really been one single truly good video game movie? Don&#39;t tell me Resident Evil, those movies are terrible. Doom blew, what else? At least the TF&#39;s had a comic and cartoon to go along with the line, and the comic was a lot darker in tone. So, to me, I&#39;d prefer to see the comic-based version of The TF&#39;s. Speaking of comics, they&#39;re no longer making the G1 toyline, but some of the newer comics are G1 character based, in terms of design. I saw some art from the Dreamwave comics, looked good to me. Even G2 wasn&#39;t too great a deviation from G1. Megatron as a tank makes so much more sense. Fine, he&#39;s an ALIEN JET in the new movie. At least they were smart enough to invalidate Starscream, who has now been converted into a robotic monkey with cannon arms. What happened to the sleek G1 design? Sure, there would definitely have to be modifications to the &#39;boxey&#39; designs, but at least they should still be highly recognizable.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:14 p.m. CST

    New video is up...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    http://tinyurl.com/kpj6l

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Jak

    by RevSick

    Silent Hill was really good.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:22 p.m. CST

    SnakesOnABicycle

    by shakermakerman

    nope no problems just the one password and name lol, i still have my g1 toys but im all up for change as you get newer vehicles as time gos on they still going to be the same character.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Actually, RevSick...

    by Childe Roland

    ...Silent Hill, as released, had a lot of unrealized potential. I have no doubt, though, that a three+ hour version with actual plot revelation through character action and interaction (instead of that ridiculous expositional film-within-a-film thing we got) exists and will be quite enjoyable to watch on DVD some day.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Ok, who is Hairy Nutsack?

    by Ricky Henderson

    Is it the same giggling land-monster who occasionally posts bizzarely inappropriate reviews on this site? Or another Harry entirely? And that animation was good, yes, but too scatalogical and not witty enough for my liking.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:38 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Yelling "FLAMES ON OPTIMUS" = flames on optimus

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHO GIVES A FLYING F**K?!

    by LaserPants

    I mean really now. Please. This insanity has gone way past pathetic, way past sad, its now in the realm of the terrifying. Is this the future? Angry maladjusted adults crying about a 20 year old toy commercial? Is it time to call the authorities yet? I think it may be.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I Agree With LaserPants

    by ZombieSolutions

    You&#39;ve all gone caacaa coocoo crazy in the headhole.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    You are wierd people

    by Harold The Great

    that is all

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST

    I like the flames

    by spikebad666

    I hope they keep them.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON PRIME = "GETERDONE" JOKES

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Umm Ricky....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    I&#39;ve been in these long ass TF TalkBacks from the beginning. (and on AICN in general since long ago) I have yet to post a review, and this the 2nd TF video I&#39;ve shared with our fellow TBers. See if my 1st video is more to your liking - http://youtube.com/watch?v=WRAcwQagxhU

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Hairy--I liked the end part of the video...

    by Ricky Henderson

    That was funny. Good job.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight

    by tile_mcgillus

    This is from Joblo.com: Sean Penn was offered the role of Joker but turned it down. Phillip Seymour Hoffman has officially turned down the Penguin role. SAD FACE 5000

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    "Blocky, Original Designs Won&#39;t Work"

    by blackwood

    Saw this argument pop up again. It&#39;s really very stupid because - guess what - they DID work, insofar as they were actual, physical objects that were able to change between robot and vehicle with nary a child&#39;s needless blindness. Neither here nor there, but it needed to be said. GIANT ROBOTS FOREVER!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Yack

    by blackwood

    Give it a chance. I, personally, think Ledger and Bale would make very pretty ass-babies together.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST

    re: Dark Knight

    by Thenedain

    The idea of Ledger as the Joker initially scared the bejesus out of me, now that I&#39;m sitting back and thinking about it a bit, it might turn out pretty ok. I suspect he&#39;s one of those actors that could play a good psychopath if given the chance, and he&#39;s never really been given a chance to play &#39;bad&#39;. I trust Nolan, so I have some hope for this one. As for what this has to do with TF? Nothing, but like Brokeback Mountain, Bay and Murphy LOVE the cock.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Ledger

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I think that Ledger is such an unexpected (and somewhat inspired) piece of casting that it may work like gangbusters. I heard that Penn was in consideration for the role but not that it was actually offered to him. He NEVER would have done it anyway.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Yack

    by Thenedain

    I&#39;m actually kind of hoping that the Joker we get is closer to the more subdued, sinister Joker that was seen in some of the early comics and again pretty recently, instead of the over the top, totally batshit crazy Joker. I&#39;m hoping that this becomes more of a Detective Comics kind of movie, more of a mystery flick than an action flick, and a really dark evil Joker would fit that perfectly.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    GibsonUSA...

    by moto

    Um, yeah. That&#39;s what rewrites are for. Producers give notes, saying what works and what doesn&#39;t. It&#39;s a process. Do you actually think the first draft of any movie is gold and it doesn&#39;t get better than that? Think before you speak.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    You know what we should do...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Until something more substantial comes out, we should hijack every TF thread with nothing but discussion over "The Dark Knight".

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST

    YackBacker - I heard Penn wanted to do...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    a method "Spicolli interpretation" of the Joker. ** "But what about Batman and Commissioner Gordon?" -- "Ho, those guys are fags!!!"

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Flames = Ribs?

    by MarkoOhNo

    Sorry Mr Bay, I just don&#39;t see that. In robot form, even with my eyes crossed, they still just look like flames.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Yup, that&#39;s my take on it

    by Thenedain

    From Nolan&#39;s last comments on Dark Knight, it sounds like he&#39;s going in a direction with the Joker that no one&#39;s ever seen on film before. All I can think of is the evil criminal mastermind Joker. While I&#39;d like to see at least one or two scenes that shows how whacky nutty The Joke can be, I&#39;d really be psyched to see something closer to The Killing Joke, which I actually think they&#39;re delving heavily into for inspiration. Personally, I&#39;d be really, really happy NOT to see much of the Joker throughout the movie, and think a full reveal should happen near the end and set up for the sequel. One thing I do like about Nolan&#39;s Batman treatment so far is that he&#39;s not killing off every villain. I fully hope we&#39;ll see at least a cameo of Scarecrow (another inspired casting choice, mind you) and maybe a passing mention of no body being found for Ra&#39;s ( as in the comics he can revive via the Lazarus Pits ). I kind of hope that like Raimi&#39;s Spidey villains, Nolan&#39;s setting up for a possible flick down the road that&#39;d see Bats vs. a whole slew of villains. Can anyone say Knightfall?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    I was iffy on Ledger as the Joker, too...

    by Childe Roland

    ...until I remembered an interview I saw with the guy (I htink it was for Dogtown). When he smiles...not the very self-conscious, repressed smile he flashed in Brokeback but a real shit-eating grin...it drops him down the ugly tree by quite a few branches. Seriously. His smile practically disfigures him. And a couple of times during the interview, he said something that he thought was very funny...but it never was. And he&#39;s just let out this bizarre laugh that I never would&#39;ve expected out of him. With those things at work, I think he could nail a more subdued (like the early parts of The Killing Joke) kind of Joker. I&#39;m quite looking forward to seeing him tackle the role. And since I brought up The Killing Joke, I know I&#39;ve typed this before but I re-read that recently and couldn&#39;t help but be struck by the thematic similarities it has to Brokeback Mountain. Two men with personal demons find themselves inexorably drawn to one another in a relationship that both are convinced can only end in one of their deaths and it destroys the lives of those they care about. Seems like perfect baggage for Ledger to bring to the role (much as American Psycho&#39;s Bateman was a good warm up for Bale&#39;s Batman).

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST

    The Joker and "subdued realism"

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I agree. One of the things about the graphic novels (Arkham Asylum and The Killing Joke) is that the Joker isn&#39;t that over the top Ceasar Romero/Jack Nicholson character. In fact, he&#39;s dark, very twisted, and incredibly disturbing. I think it&#39;s easy to go the "disfigured crazy loon" route. Personally, I think the Joker would be much more memorable and filmworthy if he was played with a subdued personality. That way, when he does go "crazy", it scares the living hell out of you. Like a cobra - you never know when he is going to snap/strike.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:11 p.m. CST

    AICN ...

    by daelith

    Boo AICN!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST

    batfans...

    by Staldo

    hijack this thread if you will, but if any of you have read Kingdom Come, you know what Bruce Wayne turns to to help him continue his crusade in old age. That&#39;s right, GIANT ROBOTS. Everything eventually leads to giant robots, and some day they&#39;ll have their day in the sun. Probably not next summer, though.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Damn, Yack, that is too bad about...

    by Childe Roland

    ...The Illusionist. That was on my must-see list. Is it at least a decent renter? And Staldo, would Bruce by way of Kingdom Come qualify as a cyborg with that exoskeleton of his?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:29 p.m. CST

    SOMEONE PLEASE EMAIL ME THE SCRIPT OR A LINK

    by Cameron1

    popculturekid@hotmail.co.uk

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Flames on Prime = Penis on Ackroyd&#39;s nose

    by finky089

    Just &#39;cause someone above mentioned "Nothing But Trouble" TINO! TINO! TINO! TIN ! TINO!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:34 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    So, would you say that "The Illusionist" lacked a certain magical quality? Ba-dum-dum. Thank you, try the veal!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:34 p.m. CST

    The Illusionist looked ok,

    by Thenedain

    but I&#39;m holding out for the Prestige. That looks like a pretty sweet flick at this point. Plus, it&#39;s got that nice little Batman Begins connection going for it.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:44 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON PRIME = PAY FOR IT BEFORE YOU HATE IT

    by darthwalters

    I may change my judgement if I see changes, perhaps even an exciting trailer, but there is no way in hell I&#39;m going to shovel them 10 bucks before I have a right to have an opinion. If I have to go to a movie just to prove it sucks they kind of win anyway don&#39;t they?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST

    What&#39;s wrong with flames?

    by Orionsangels

    It&#39;s not like he has flowers. Everyone just relax!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST

    The Problem With Flames...

    by MarkoOhNo

    ...is that they imply character traits which Optimus simply does not possess. Wild, reckless, hotheaded... that&#39;s not Prime.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Look Not To Mr Spielberg...

    by MarkoOhNo

    ...he&#39;s not going to do anything about it, trust me. This is the same man who threw Peter Benchley off the set of Jaws for complaining about the ending of the movie. He&#39;ll trust the director to note objections but stay true to his vision. (Even if Mr Bay&#39;s vision is 20/20000.)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST

    For those who doubt the legend...

    by deadlegend

    My ID doesn&#39;t represent dead rock stars or singers or movie stars. Those were PEOPLE, NOT LEGENDS. Ever heard of MYTHOLOGY? As in REAL LEGENDS? As in the legends of Nimrod, Semeramis, Hercules, Tammuz and countless others? If you don&#39;t pay enough attention to notice my ID, don&#39;t pay attention to this post. If you do care, and you&#39;re a clueless FUCKASS, then be enlightened about my ID and go fuck your mother. Oh yeah, TF2007 will kick ass. And I&#39;m not a plant or an apologist, I just enjoy Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg movies. Sue me, bitches.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    another take on the flames

    by Staldo

    Flames on Optimus=the hand-me-down T-shirt on Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction. A fucking hilarious result of circumstance but in no way detrimental to the character. Giant robot needs a disguise, grabs the closest thing available. I&#39;d like to see you arrive on another planet and immediately know what clothes to wear to avoid coming off as an ass.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:13 p.m. CST

    But legend...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    ...you&#39;re dead. Your legend is dead. You&#39;re a deadlegend.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Staldo, that&#39;s genius.

    by Cameron1

    I hope all the other autobots give me "wtf?" looks and bitch at him behind his back. "Flames is Prime trying to tell us all something?" Course it would kinda make it a comedy and not an action movie, but I&#39;m reading the script right now, and hell, it&#39;s laughable anyway.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Staldo - the flames

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I could see it: Ironhide turns to Optimus, "What&#39;s with the flames?" -- Optimus looks ahead, "Don&#39;t ask". He then transforms and takes off.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Back to batman

    by Phategod2

    I think If they go with a more subdued joker, then he has to really do some sick stuff and therefore this movie would be Rated R so i think its simpler to go with Crazy as batshit joker Also its hard to take someone younger then me seriously as the Joker. and cant help but think that Brad Douriff would have made a better Joker.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = COLLIN FARRELS DOO IN ALEXANDER

    by Flux_brown

    surprised nobody has brought alexander up yet :)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST

    joker

    by Flux_brown

    if only crispin glover signed on...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:39 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = IT&#39;S JUST A STUPID TOY COMMERCIAL

    by Immortal_Fish

    Honestly, let&#39;s pile everyone from both of these camps into a room where they can transform into the Mongolian Clusterfuckticon. I bet Leia LeBoushh would dig that.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    the whole get laid thing is stupid KNOWTHYSELF

    by messi

    you do know there are a few pornstars who also don&#39;t like what is happening with this movie. So your argument doesn&#39;t work.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m loving the Ledger casting.

    by Cameron1

    He&#39;s robbing liquor stores and murdering the owners, he ain&#39;t a criminal mastermind, yet. I&#39;ve heard that Nolan wants to take it bakc to the very first appearance of the Joker in the comics as well though. I believe he pops up to announce he&#39;s going to kill a famous Gotham resident at midnight that very night and even with a huge police guard the celebrity is murdered by poisoning. Anyway I think the joker will probably be a young punk kid looking to make a name for himself and move up the ladder as it were, hence his killing the famous Gotham resident to get him more publicity. I can definitely see Ledger in that kind of role.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Phategod2 and Flux_brown

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Crispin Glover simply doesn&#39;t have the chops to pull that character off. The Joker is much more complex and chances are that Glover would just be doing a version of himself. (Scary but not scary enough.) Phategod2 - I think you are overlooking a more subtle approach, one that would give people the genuine creeps when viewing the Joker. It would be more about what&#39;s implied rather than "batshit crazy". As for his age, well...the Joker has got to start sometime.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST

    hey...i&#39;ve got nothing against Ledger

    by Flux_brown

    his casting was a bit out of the box which we expect and want nolan to do. and hey Nice gaius, ur probably right about glover. the thing i never got was Philip seymor hoffman as the penguin? that sounded more like a studio&#39;s decision than nolan&#39;s. and i don&#39;t mind ryan phillipe either, dunno why...but i think he could pull it off

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Can I have a example of subtle

    by Phategod2

    I think in the Killing Joke he rapes Barbara gordon I mean if he&#39;s realisticly evil or Tarentino blood gushing evil this movie gets a R rating, if its implied "softcore" Evil with popping out of the dark empty threat evil, it would be kind of lame, especially from ledger who has to alot to prove.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Concerning Dark Knight

    by messi

    I like Heath Ledger in the role because he hasn&#39;t done anything like this before as opposed to Paul Bettany. If he was cast we would know what to expect, just evil Paul Bettany and that&#39;s the reason he wasn&#39;t in the running. As for the joker, Nolan has said he is like the one found on The Killing Joke, the first two appearances of the Joker and the Steve Englehart story The Jokers 5 way revenge. Expect a Detective Comics movie, rather than an action movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Flux

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I kind of hope they don&#39;t do anything with the Penguin. I&#39;d hate for them to get sucked into that multiple-villain-hole where they can&#39;t give everyone&#39;s character a decent chance to develop. I&#39;m not sure about the Harvey Dent/Ryan Phillipe rumor...but I think there are a lot of actors who could play that role rather well.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Gaius

    by Flux_brown

    yeah, before we know it we&#39;ll be in schumacher territory...are they keeping oldman in the sequals?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Phategod2

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Well, a rape such as in The Killing Joke could be played several ways. But I don&#39;t think you would need to show that (or anything ala Tarantino!) in the movie. If you implied it with a certain subtlety and a dead-on performance by Ledger, I think it would play more on the mind of the audience. Instead of the Joker running around going "Woooo hoooo hooo, Batsy!", all you would need to show is a big ear-to-ear smile in the shadows. I&#39;m pretty sure that stands a better chance of creeping you out and making your girlfriend/boyfriend jump into your lap than anything "blood & guts".

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:09 p.m. CST

    The Joker doesn&#39;t rape Barbara...

    by Childe Roland

    ...Gordon in The Killing Joke. We know he cripples her and takes naked pictures of her (which is a violation in and of itself). But a rape, especially after all that, seems almost beneath the character...especially as depicted in that particular story. It&#39;s too mundane.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:10 p.m. CST

    "oldman in the sequals?"

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    As far as I know. I think it&#39;s great that he is playing a good guy with Gordon. He is so masterful as a villain that it&#39;s cool to see him play something more low key. However, he would have been one of my first choices to play the Joker. Remember that scene in Bram Stoker&#39;s Dracula when he starts to smile and then kicks in that slow evil laugh?! It was pretty money.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the correction, Childe

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    It&#39;s been years since I&#39;ve read that story. I guess I remembered it as being that a rape was sort of implied.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    yeah Thanks Childe

    by Phategod2

    i should have remembered I just read it again this summer.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    did i write "sequals" ??!!

    by Flux_brown

    yeah, i hope he stays in it...this isn&#39;t typical gary oldman fare you know...this is the guy who said he did azkaban for the paycheck only, i hope they&#39;ve gotten him in their pockets already, coz he turned down order of the phoenix, hence he doesn&#39;t need the money anymore....

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Dan Akroyd as The Penguin!!!

    by moto

    JUST KIDDING... but I would laugh my ass off seeing him in a Batman movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Not to be off topic but this is hilarious!

    by tile_mcgillus

    Volkswagon is having their rabbit icon replace the Playboy bunny icon (or something to that effect) on the September issue of Playboy. The christian ethics groups are all in a tizzy because Volkswagon sent the magazines to all their senior sales representatives with a quote "Enjoy front to back". If you remember correctly Volkswagon had Bumblebee not be a VW bug because they didn&#39;t want their product associated with violence. Porn is alright I guess? I know Europe doesn&#39;t really even consider nudity offensive. But a kind hearted robot that is trying to protect mankind is wrong and gross but associating their product with naked pussy is chicy and funny. Actually I think VW has it right though, GUNS=BAD, PUSSY=GOOD. THats how I live my life.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:46 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JEFF GANNON VISITS TO WHITE HOUSE

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = INACTIVE READY RESERVE

    by brokebackcowboy

    The troops need a break.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:49 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DIARRHEA AND ANAL SEX

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Damn cattle herd here

    by Jak0lantern01

    First it&#39;s a TF talkback, then someone yells "BATMAN!" and everyone changes course, right over the cliff.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Volkswagen

    by Staldo

    naked pussy in Playboy? Last I checked they were only offering glimpses of pube, with occasional exceptions like those sweet, sweet Darryl Hannah shots from &#39;03. definitely one of my all time favs, despite her age. As for Volkswagen, what can you expect from the Germans? They could have even worked Bumblebee violence into those new side-impact crash test rating commercials, those . Those are done by Volkswagen, right?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:58 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PG13 ALIEN vs. PREDATOR

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:58 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MULLET

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TOM & JERRY TALKING IN THE MOVIE

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAST AND FURIOUS 1, 2 AND 3

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:01 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=I DIDNT HAVE SEXUAL REL. W/ THAT WOMN

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:02 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FAT PEOPLE WHO GET TIRED WHILE EATING

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:02 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THIRD WORLD BABIES THAT DID * NOT *

    by brokebackcowboy

    GET ADOPTED BY ANGELINA JOLIE.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BILL CLINTON&#39;S CIGAR

    by brokebackcowboy

    Dude ... Monica Lewinsky?!?!? Have some mercy ...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:04 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = RUSH LIMBAUGH&#39;S DOCTOR

    by brokebackcowboy

    AFTER HER GOT BUSTED.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:06 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL LOHAN&#39;S CAR INSURANCE AGENT

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:07 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WALMART EMPLOYEES

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:10 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FOX&#39;S FALL LINEUP

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STAR TREK V

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA&#39;S FRANKENSTEIN

    by brokebackcowboy

    Kenneth Branaugh is still hiding in seclusion ....

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL HASSELHOFF

    by brokebackcowboy

    Why doesn&#39;t he just go away?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Ha Ha, Jeff Gannon.. Classic!

    by ganymede2010

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Is it me or does Micheal bays the Tranformers

    by Phategod2

    Remind you of the last decade of MTV all flash no substance and geared towards stupid people.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    who the hell is Michael Hasselhoff?

    by eighteenseconds

    a legalized BAY marriage?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Volkswagen

    by Optimus Murphy

    Don&#39;t worry VW, nobody would ever think to associate your company with violence, what with Adolf Hitler having design input on your signature vehicle, and you providing equipment to the Nazi war machine.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Not to mention the commercial where

    by Phategod2

    you cars get smacked up or the ones where you completly destroy a pimped car.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:47 p.m. CST

    His tires are out of balance!

    by Tinfang

    Well, they are. I&#39;m opening both wrist right now.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I think the whole VW

    by Phategod2

    thing was a lie truth is the autobots are a gigantic GM commercial and no better way to show GM&#39;s new muscle car is letting one of the stars be it. The reason why Bumble bee is the camaro and not Jazz is because he gets more screen time. I saw a interview with mike bay where he or a military stooge descibed this movie as a recruiting tool (or comercial) so we have movie pushing the armed forces, GM cars, Yahoo, and E-bay. does this movie even need my $8 with all those sponsers.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = OLD MEN BECOMING DADS

    by PUGLIFE

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan should be the voice for Optimus Prime...

    by BatVomit

    "AUTOBOTS! TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT, BROTHER!!"

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST

    a rectruiting tool?

    by Staldo

    Join the army and fight giant metal scorpions today, boys and girls. Apparently Sabot anti-tank rounds are going to be like Transformer kryptonite in this movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Phategod

    by tile_mcgillus

    I wouldn&#39;t put anything past this production. But this is from wikipedia (i know not very reliable but it was posted way before movie)::::::::Volkswagen New Beetle model When the Alternators/Binaltech line of hyper-realistic Transformers was being developed, fan favorite Bumblebee was to be recreated as a new Volkswagen Beetle, according to prototype art in "The Transformers Binaltech & TF Collection Complete Guide". According to Hasbro designer Aaron Archer at "The Official Transformers Collectors Convention" (or OTFCC) &#39;03, Volkswagen had refused to license an Alternator Bumblebee. Volkswagen refused to license the car, however, supposedly due to the warlike nature of the Transformers. [1] Since VW was hit hard in 2002 by a lawsuit by holocaust victims for their involvement in WWII (as a German manufacturer), VW is understandably reluctant to have its name tied to anything that could be considered a war machine. Hasbro had agreed to not give Bumblebee a gun, however, the prototype shot given to Volkswagen still had the gun present. Volkswagen were unaware that the picture was a prototype and they rejected the idea This explains why the Bumblebee Altmode does not exist as a New VW Beetle and instead as other form cars beyond the old VW Beetle model. :::::::::::::

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Phategod....

    by BatVomit

    They also had prototypes of Jazz as a Porsche, but changed it to a Mazda RX-8 because Porsche wouldn&#39;t allow their cars to be licensed for &#39;war-like&#39; toys either.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:27 p.m. CST

    porche hasn&#39;t granted their likeness whoever

    by Phategod2

    In most video games Porshe&#39;s are renamed RUF and they are allowed around the lisence and that another thing as long as they don&#39;t refer to car as VW or bug and remove the VW ensignia they should be find and even if they could not do that your telling me they cant get the same car from the Italian Job.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Phategod

    by tile_mcgillus

    I bet they wouldnt have used the camaro anyway. Besides, VW probably wouldn&#39;t want to pay what GM are paying to have all their "vehicles" in the movie.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Prime looks just fine...

    by Cadillac Jones

    ...he&#39;d look sweeter in the single color red / blue scheme like that dude above photoshopped, but that&#39;s just being nitpicky. Now Megatron? That&#39;s a different story. They completely and utterly juggfuckled Megatron. He needs a redesign STAT!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Im no Laywer but

    by Phategod2

    i believe there paying for the License not the likeness you can rip off all badges off a car do anything to it as long as you call it something else like GTA:III but when you start calling it by it actual name thats when someone has to have permission. Now I saw a pic from the movie and there was seen with a fararri and some other High end cars but the Autobots are all GM cars.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Back to Batman 2

    by Phategod2

    you know aht pissed me off about Batman Begins No Talia. she was fine and one of the few chicks that matched his intellect and loved him.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:34 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PONTIAC AZTEK

    by GibsonUSA

    If this is indeed a GM commercial disguised as a movie, that still does not justify Bumblebee having to be a Camaro. They could have made the Camaro someone else with lots of screentime, like that Decepticon police car....OR, REWRITE the script to give Jazz more lines and make him the Camaro. GM has a ton of small compact cars they need to promote.....the newly redesigned Chevy Aveo, the NEW Pontiac G5, that new AWD Suzuki compact.....the competition is STIFF in the compact segment and all of these GM new entries need attention. Bumblebee would have made more sense as any of them. And also, Bumblebee is the weakest and most "little" of the Transformers....does GM really want the Camaro associated with those characteristics?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BILL FORD JR. AT NEXT BOARD MEETING

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CHILD SLEEPING AT MICHAEL JACKSON&#39;S

    by brokebackcowboy

    HOUSE.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST

    phategod....

    by Flux_brown

    man, but just having ras al ghul as the baddie was great enough! they should have a thalia cameo in the 2nd tho....the fans would go apeshit over that!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:40 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = Mariah&#39;s Glitter

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:41 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SYLVESTER STALLONE SINCE 1994

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:42 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DON MURPHY&#39;S PERSONAL TRAINER

    by brokebackcowboy

    He&#39;s basically unemployed ...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:48 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAT WOMEN GOIN NUTS FOR CLAY AIKEN

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Fanart of awesome Jazz head

    by messi

    this is the style that the designers should have gone with in bringing to life Transformers. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1659/mymoviejazzhead2webof8.jpg

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:49 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOHN MARK KARR IN A CLASSROOM

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GOLD CHAIN ON A MAN&#39;S NECK

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:53 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THINKING ANNE COULTER HAS NICE LEGS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:54 p.m. CST

    FLAMES IN OPTIMUS = BOBBY EWING IN THE SHOWER

    by Flux_brown

    ah...the good ol eighties

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:54 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CAMEL TOE

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:55 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JANET JACKSON&#39;S NIPPLE

    by GibsonUSA

    Hey, I like Marc Summers!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = YELLING AT THE WAITER BEFORE YOUR

    by brokebackcowboy

    FOOD HAS BEEN SERVED.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELVIS IS STILL ALIVE.

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BRITNEY&#39;S CHILDREN

    by brokebackcowboy

    They don&#39;t stand a chance ...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    How Joker should be played.....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    The perfect example of how Joker should be played can be found in Dark Knight Returns (interesting parallel on the name there). In DHR Joker tricks Arkham into letting him go and the first thing he does is go on David Letterman and matter-of-factly proclaim "I&#39;m going to kill everyone in this room.", and does it of course. In the next chapter he hands out posion cotton candy to kids. He is a being of ultimate evil that is capable of anything, and to him it&#39;s funny as hell. Once he pulls off some heinous crime, THAT&#39;S when he laughs like a maniac, not while he&#39;s chasing Vicky Vale&#39;s skirt. I know they won&#39;t do it, but I&#39;d fucking love it if they went for the R.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= NOW ALL WE HAVE IS JEFF CORWIN

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = RUSH LIMBAUGH&#39;S UNDERWEAR

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    MEGATRON HEADS LOOK!

    by messi

    these are fan made and paramount is looking at them. first one is my fave http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5200/mymoviemeghead7webcp1.jpg http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1866/mymoviemeghead6weblu0.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2084/mymoviemeghead3webrc2.jpg

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    gibson usa

    by Flux_brown

    couldn&#39;t be more true dude

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BURT REYNOLDS AS INDIANA JONES

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BURT WARD&#39;S TIGHTS!

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    TOM SELLECK

    by Flux_brown

    was supposed to be indiana jones!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Y&#39;know, if that $2.71 per post rumor is true...

    by Shermdawg

    You&#39;ve made Merrick a happy guy brokeback! :P

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:05 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = POLAR BEARS IN ARTIC

    by brokebackcowboy

    The glaciers are melting. Please buy a hybrid.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:05 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE TURBOGRAFX-16

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg

    by brokebackcowboy

    What&#39;s that rumor? Merrick gets paid per post? What&#39;s my cut?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    FLAMESONOPTIMUS = "HOOHOO I INVENTED EVERYTHING RAHBAN"

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:08 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HANNA BARBARA&#39;S GI JOE

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:08 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = COURIC&#39;S $42K/NIGHT SALARY

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    messi, the third design is the best.

    by Shermdawg

    Theres more detail, more going on. But it is still too human of a face to fit with the rest of the designs.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = AICN GAMES COLUMN

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Narration...

    by Flux_brown

    and the quest for the perfect "FLAMES ON OPTIMUS" quote continues...the quote that will be the mother of all quotes, the quote that will be so great, peope will shed a tear over its greatness....and now, let&#39;s return to...."the quote to end all quotes"!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:11 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANY SEASON OF AMERICAN IDOL

    by Immortal_Fish

    Why was I the first to write this one?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:12 p.m. CST

    brokebackcowboy

    by Shermdawg

    The $2.71 per post rumor came up in one of Herc&#39;s talkbacks last year. It was never confirmed or denied. But if it is true, MERRICK LOVES YOU! lol

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TOM DELAY&#39;S TOUPEE SUPPLIER

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOHN CENA

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TOM BROKAW SAYING...

    by Immortal_Fish

    "L.L. Cool J. glided lazily along the lower elevator."

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:14 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =BILL PARCELLS AND TERRELL OWENS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:14 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELTON JOHN&#39;S TOUPEE LAUNDERER

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:15 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=XENU

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg

    by brokebackcowboy

    That&#39;s cool, I like Merrick. And I made Moriarty and Quint some cash in the WTC TB too.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:16 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NO MORE CHEF

    by Immortal_Fish

    Search your feelings, Luke.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Also messi, how do y&#39;know Paramount is lookin&#39; at them?

    by Shermdawg

    And even if they are looking at them, thats probably all they are doing. I&#39;m sure there would be legal issues that would prevent them from doing anything more.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:17 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= THOSE FRICKIN MAC COMMERCIALS!

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:18 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JET LI&#39;S PENIS vs ANNA NICOLES VAGINA

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOCELYN WILDERSTEIN

    by brokebackcowboy

    http://www.amiannoying.com/2001/view.asp?ID=421

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS 2003

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = APRIL 15TH

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAVING TO WORK TOMORROW!

    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:23 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEADBEAT STALKER KRYPTONIAN

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:24 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = "THE SCRIPT YOU SAW ISNT FINAL"

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:24 p.m. CST

    That Jazz picture was Fucking Tight

    by Phategod2

    I would sneak in opening night to see that with a Scatman crouthers sound-alike of course.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:25 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS

    by Immortal_Fish

    The most obvious of them all. Meesa wins!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:25 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = AICN&#39;s NEXT "UNEXPECTED" LEAK

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:26 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TED KENNEDY IN A ROWBOAT

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:27 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HITLER WITHOUT REICHGUARD

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CG VOLTRON

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:29 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PAUL McCARNTNEY&#39;S SETTLEMENT

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=VANITY SMURF NOT BEING GAY

    by Flux_brown

    C&#39;mon...really?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:31 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HEATHER MILLS&#39;S LEFT SHOE PILE

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:32 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=UNITED AIRLINES

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LANCE BASS & JOEY "FAT ONE"

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:40 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHANNEN DOHERTY&#39;S AGENT

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:42 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PUNCHING A BABY

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LISA LAMPANELLI&#39;S VAGINA

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LOGAN AIRPORT

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHANNEN DOHERTY&#39;S FACIAL SCUBA GEAR

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW COKE

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BJORK&#39;S DUCK DRESS

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PARENT TRAP WITH LINDSAY LOHAN

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PARIS HILTON SEX TAPE

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CARSON FROM QUEER EYE

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LANCE BASS NASA MRE POSTCONSUMPTION

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GARY CHERONE IN VAN HALEN

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PEEWEE HERMAN SPANKING IT

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:46 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BJORK&#39;S ORGASM

    by Immortal_Fish

    Even if you&#39;re hetero, you still lose.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:46 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LYLE LOVETT ON JULIA ROBERTS

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:47 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TEINAMEN SQUARE

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:47 p.m. CST

    OooOOooHH!!, Great VH one, Gibs

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:47 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON PRIME=GEORGE W BUSHES 2ND TERM

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:47 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JOHN BOBBIT

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:48 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELTON JOHN SHARING HIS OPINION

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HEZBOLLAH KIDNAPPING 2 SOLDIERS

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=R KELLY UNDERAGE GOLDEN SHOWER

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DANIEL CRAIG AS JAMES BOND

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =FUZZY ZOELLERS FRIED CHICKEN COMMENT

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TIMOTHY DAULTON AS JAMES BOND

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE SECOND MOM IN FRESH PRINCE

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DON MURPHY&#39;S CAREER AFTER TF

    by brokebackcowboy

    Bye bye, Donny Two Chins.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:51 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE OSBOURNES

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    GibsonUSA & brokebackcowboy

    by tile_mcgillus

    Genius, FP second mom and donny two chins...this is too fun

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MEL GIBSON&#39;S "SPIRITUAL HEALING."

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PETE BEST&#39;S CAREER PATH

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JESSICA TANDY NAKED

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GEORGE LAZENBY AS JAMES BOND

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ICEBERG AND THE TITANIC

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HJ FROM A BEAR

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:54 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CATWOMAN COSTUME

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:54 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ZUCKER HUMOR POST AIRPLANE 1

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Next time Don murphy does a Q&A

    by Phategod2

    we should join in and all go under the screen name Donny two chins.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:55 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE MENDEZ BROS&#39; AIM

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:55 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CARROT TOP ON STERIODS

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WILL SMITH

    by Immortal_Fish

    Did you know that he&#39;s "urban"?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CARROT TOP W/O PROP

    by Immortal_Fish

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SUPERMAN DICK SHRINKER

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EVERYONE ON THE SURREAL LIFE

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NO SILVER SPOONS DVD BOX SET

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=W/ PROP

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:57 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LEIA LABOUSSH!!

    by Immortal_Fish

    Yours now at Sideshow Collectables

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:58 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CHUCK NORRIS

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=EVERQUEST 2

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FOOLS!!!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    You should all be banned. ;)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BECKY #2 ON ROSANNE

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SKINNY JERRY O&#39; CONNELL

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ARNOLD SCHWARTZENEGGER AS GOVERNOR

    by brokebackcowboy

    California: Are you high on something?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE MICHAEL RICHARDS SHOW

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DON MURPHY&#39;S WIT

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = M NIGHT&#39;S CAREER SINCE SIXTH SENSE

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:01 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = INVESTORS IN DEMON DAVE&#39;S 2ND MOVIE

    by brokebackcowboy

    Like, why don&#39;t you just burn your money instead?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:01 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CONAN THE BARBARIAN&#39;S SPEEDO

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:02 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEEING YOUR PARENTS HAVE SEX

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIONEL RICHIE&#39;S VIDEOS

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =SLY GETS $20 MIL FOR AVENGNG ANGELO

    by GibsonUSA

    I like Stallone though. GO ROcky VI!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAVING SEX WITH YOUR PARENTS

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = YOKO ONO

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:05 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEEING DONNY TWO CHINS HAVING SEX

    by Elmore Rigby

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:05 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MOMENT GEORGE LUCAS DECIDED

    by brokebackcowboy

    TO MAKE THE PREQUELS.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:06 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EARRING ON HARRISON FORD

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:06 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HUGGING AN OBESE CHICK & UR ARMS SINK

    by GibsonUSA

    ING IN.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Holy shit can&#39;t wait to see tomorrow&#39;s tally on this TB

    by brokebackcowboy

    Good job guys!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:09 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HIPPIES ATTACKING SOLDIERS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:10 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = not LIONEL RICHIE&#39;S VIDEOS

    by Immortal_Fish

    Nowhere neaer as much as HAVING SEX WITH YOUR PARENTS. We must continue to strive for excellence, people. Have none of you read "What Moved My Cheese"??

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= WEARING CAPS OVER HUGE CURLY HAIR

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    WHO CARES ABOUT THE FLAMES? THE DESIGN IS BAD ASS!!!

    by Shermdawg

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:12 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAT GOTH CHICKS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ORANGE JUICE AFTER TOOTHPASTE

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =FAT CHICK NOT KNOWING SHE IS PREGANT

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= SAVED BY THE BELL:THE COLLEGE YEARS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BREAST REDUCTIONS

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GANGSTA MICKEY MOUSE

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DISNEY AFTERNOON MINUS DUCKTALES

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GI JOES NEVER HURTING EACH OTHER

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIRST DAY OF GYM CLASS

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:17 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= BEAGLE BOYS WIN

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:19 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAVING TO SWALLOW PHELGM IN PUBLIC

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:20 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANY MOVIE WITH PAUL WALKER

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:21 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ORDERING A BIG KAHUNA BURGER

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:30 p.m. CST

    for all Philly Fans

    by Phategod2

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PITCH BY MITCH WILLIAMS TO JOE CARTER IN THE WORLD SERIES GAME 6.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:35 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PAULA ABDUL&#39;S SECOND MUSIC STINT

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:35 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAMMERMAN CARTOON

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GO GO GADGET SUCK!!

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ACID WASHED JEANS

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHATCHU TALKIN&#39; BOUT, BAY??

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HOWARD DEAN&#39;S IOWA VICTORY SPEECH

    by Optimus Murphy

    YEEEEEEEEARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:38 p.m. CST

    So true, brokeback. So true.

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:40 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NOW THE WORLD DONT MOVE TO THE BEAT

    by GibsonUSA

    OF JUST ONE DRUM, BUT WHAT IS RIGHT FOR BAY, IS ALSO RIGHT FOR NONE!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:40 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEGA SATURN

    by Optimus Murphy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:41 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PIMP MY DOUBLE WIDE

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:43 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = Steven Seagal&#39;s Energy Drink

    by Optimus Murphy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:43 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SALT ON SNAILS

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:47 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = KANYE WEST ON A TELETHON

    by Optimus Murphy

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:47 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LEE BOYD MALVO

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:49 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHUMACHER&#39;S GLOWING BATMOBILE

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:50 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= MICHEAL BAY ENERGY DUST

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:50 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CINDERELLA 2, BAMBI 2, ALADDIN 2

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST

    So...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Fuckin&#39;...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    GAY.

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MEDIA&#39;S MISSING GIRL COVERAGE

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Pocahontas 2 was good.

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Hairy > next video

    by Chief Joseph

    You should have this Movie Optimus retract his "battle mask" to reveal Corky from Life Goes On.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:53 p.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TAZ/TWEETY ON CAR ACCESSORIES

    by superninja

    I&#39;m sorry, Mr. Nice Gaius, but I am compelled!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Flaming Optimus is the new Hip Hop Tweety Bird

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:56 p.m. CST

    OT: The new show with Matthew Perry looks terrible.

    by superninja

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Superninja - THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:58 p.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:59 p.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:59 p.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, midnight CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, midnight CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:01 a.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:01 a.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:02 a.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:02 a.m. CST

    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:04 a.m. CST

    This House Is Clear

    by blackwood

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:06 a.m. CST

    "This house is CLEAN"

    by Phategod2

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Well, I am a Christian. But I am quite

    by superninja

    sure Jesus had nothing to do with what I&#39;ve been typing.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Maybe this movie will be like the new

    by superninja

    Rocky Horror Picture Show? Maybe it just needs some musical numbers and years from now kids will be dressing up as Flaming Optimus?

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Does anyone else think this things is starting

    by superninja

    to come off as really campy, what with that script and the increasingly bad designs? Once it&#39;s filmed and they realize how awful the story is, then they&#39;re going to have to fix in. Most likely by writing additional bad dialogue for the robots to exchanges (along the lines of Cybertronian You Mamma jokes). That&#39;s kind of what they&#39;ve mention has been added - more robologue.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Wow, that needed a grammar check. Apologies.

    by superninja

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:22 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CGI PICTURES OF TOMKAT&#39;S "BABY"

    by Optimus Murphy

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:22 a.m. CST

    So instead of remembering prime

    by Phategod2

    as heroic I got remember him as a MO

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:24 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAKE LINDSEY LOHAN COOTER PHOTO

    by Optimus Murphy

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST

    For I minute there I bet ya thought it worked MNG. :)

    by superninja

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Fan Concepts

    by darthwalters

    Just to offer a little half time opinion in the FLAMES ON OPTIMUS jokes, I think those fan concepts are pretty bad ass. The one&#39;s of Megatron are about a 120% improvement over his current face, and the one of Jazz is right on the money. I&#39;d love to see what they come up with for the other Transformers. Anyway, carry on my wayward friends.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:35 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BREAK&#39;IN 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

    by darthwalters

    Just so you don&#39;t think I&#39;m slacking.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:36 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HYPER COLOR SHIRTS

    by darthwalters

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:37 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FANNY PACKS ON GROWN MEN

    by darthwalters

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:39 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DAISY DUKES ON A DONNY TWO CHINS

    by darthwalters

    I pass the ball back to your court my friends.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:03 a.m. CST

    MESSI

    by darthwalters

    Hey messi, where did you happen to score those fanart concepts anyway? Were there other submissions? Did they do the other characters? I always thought that this fan concept of Bumblebee would have been pretty sweet to see on screen - http://tinyurl.com/z9gks

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:05 a.m. CST

    crap

    by Edison

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:23 a.m. CST

    OPTIMUS REDUX

    by darthwalters

    Not saying these should be finals, but they should have hired this kid. His take is a lot closer to what people would love to see. Here&#39;s his take on Optimus. http://tinyurl.com/qkax3

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:29 a.m. CST

    MEGATRON BODY WORK

    by darthwalters

    Here is Tim&#39;s take on a full body Megatron makeover. Can&#39;t say it doesn&#39;t need work, but looks pretty spiffy so far. http://tinyurl.com/plrtl

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    STARSCREAM REBORN

    by darthwalters

    A full body reimagining and two of Tim Shinn&#39;s head designs. Don&#39;t know about you, but this is a huge improvement over the flying chickenbug that leaked. http://tinyurl.com/zesdz http://tinyurl.com/zpqg6 http://tinyurl.com/h7oet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Chief Joseph, re: video...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    You know that&#39;s a pretty damn good idea Joe! LMAO

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SIDESHOW COLLECTIBLES BOND FIGURES

    by Hairy Nutsack

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Ganymede read what I wrote

    by Lost Prophet

    I don&#39;t particularly care about the designs. I have said repeatedly that I actually quite like the optimus design. My problems are all in different areas. Fuck blocky robots. I couldn&#39;t give less of a toss- But it is really not that hard to not paint flames on optimus. Not having your major villain look like a giant low rent geiger inspired turd etc. Apply some of that logic to what I actually wrote, not what you think I wrote.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Yes, it

    by CuervoJones

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 4:32 a.m. CST

    darth, breakin2 was the shit.

    by narcosleepy

    i lost my virginity to that movie.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 4:34 a.m. CST

    EXCELLENT fan art!

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    That Megatron one is really creepy. This is why films based on existing merchandise should be made by fans and not by those who simply want to blow things up and film it.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 4:34 a.m. CST

    narcosleepy

    by darthwalters

    Was it the scene where he breaks on the walls and ceiling? I could see that amping up the sexual tension in the theater because of its amazing awesomeness.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:01 a.m. CST

    flames on optimus = "flames on optimus = flames on opti

    by foree forehead

    mus" jokes

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:03 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NU METAL

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:04 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = bush under oval office desk..

    by foree forehead

    ..looking for wmds

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:05 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = circumcision

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:06 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = POINT GUITARS

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:06 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CORRECTING YOUR POST IN..

    by foree forehead

    ..THE NEXT ONE

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:28 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE WORD "ISSUES"

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:29 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HOMEWRECKER&#39;S BLOG

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:30 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = weathered wall-hangings at chain..

    by foree forehead

    ..restaurants

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:30 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= ROBIN RELIANT

    by Lost Prophet

    for all you Americans (I think you were spared it) It was a car that some genius thought only needed 3 wheels

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:30 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DAVID BECKHAM

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:32 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BULLET TIME

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:32 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MCDONALD&#39;S SALAD

    by Lost Prophet

    pointless and unnecessary

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:33 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SVEN GORAN ERIKSSON

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:33 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = man pushing shopping cart...

    by foree forehead

    ..with one hand

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:34 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MILTON KEYNES DONS

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:36 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = the thing i did with the thing

    by foree forehead

    ..to quote principle blackman

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:36 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TOM HANKS

    by Lost Prophet

    WINNING AN OSCAR FOR TALKING SLOWLY IN FORREST GUMP

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:37 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=

    by Lost Prophet

    ELLEN BURSTYN NOT WINNING AN OSCAR FOR REQUIEM FOR A DREAM

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:37 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TAKE THAT REFORMING

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:40 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MAN WITH BRACES

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:53 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WOMEN WITH BRACES

    by Lost Prophet

    or suspenders or whatever the fuck Americans call them. I know what I mean- even if no one else does

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:53 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEFECTIVE FOAM ON A SPACE SHUTTLE

    by brokebackcowboy

    That one came to me in a dream ... Donny Two Chins takes it in the ass. By a woman with a cucumber.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:54 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HALF LIGHT

    by Lost Prophet

    a god awful demi moore "supernatural" film set in scotland. Except the street signs are written in Welsh. Basically a shit film

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:56 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= STRIPPER AT DUKE LACROSSE TEAM PARTY

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:58 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BOTH EXORCIST PREQUELS

    by brokebackcowboy

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:59 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIONS GATE NOT RELEASING

    by Lost Prophet

    FIERCE PEOPLE

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:59 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=COLEEN ROONEY

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GEORGE MICHAEL GOING INTO PUBLIC

    by brokebackcowboy

    BATHROOM. Bad shit ensues.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6 a.m. CST

    LP

    by brokebackcowboy

    That one was a shoutout to England! HAWW

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:02 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= THE COP THAT CAUGHT

    by Lost Prophet

    GEORGE MICHAEL WITH HIS NOB OUT SUING. That still makes me laugh. Brokeback, that duke lacrosse reference was fucking horrid

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:04 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BUSH WITH FINGER ON THE BUTTON

    by brokebackcowboy

    What did humanity do to deserve this?

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:05 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TOM CRUISE&#39;S CHINESE BABY

    by Lost Prophet

    It&#39;s blatant. I could not believe that photo- that baby is from the orient I tells ya. Or it is a thetan. It&#39;s not fucking his anyway

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:08 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SPINNING RIMS

    by brokebackcowboy

    WTF?

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:10 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SCIENTOLOGY

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:11 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=POSTING ON AINTITCOOL WHILE AT WORK

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:15 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=ELTON JOHN&#39;S FLOWER BILL

    by Lost Prophet

    200K on flowers. WTF?. That is the last one of these I am doing. Unless I think of a funny one, as the last few haven&#39;t been that clever

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:21 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE DRUNK FRENCHMAN

    by brokebackcowboy

    DRIVING PRINCESS DIANA AND DODI FAYED. Fuck the papparazzi.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:23 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JUGGFUCKLING YOURSELF

    by brokebackcowboy

    IN YOUR CUBICLE ... if you get caught that is.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:24 a.m. CST

    right, I have to now- been provoked by brokeback

    by Lost Prophet

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BRITISH PRESS DRAGGING DIANA&#39;S DEATH UP EVERY FUCKING DAY EVEN THOUGH IT HAPPENED FUCKING YEARS AGO.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:27 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CAMILLA PARKER BOWELS

    by brokebackcowboy

    That was a deliberate misspelling .... heeee!

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:28 a.m. CST

    I don&#39;t have a cubicle

    by Lost Prophet

    that makes me sad. No juggfuckling myself at work. I&#39;m not into exhibitionism.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Later, LP

    by brokebackcowboy

    Gotta get to work and juggfuckle myself before people get in. I&#39;m using a sock and some olive oil today. BWAHAHAAAAHAHA

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:57 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = the pervasive smell of cinamon buns

    by foree forehead

    ..at every shopping mall in north america.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 6:59 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WATER WINGS

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:03 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = new Comets on Fire album

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:11 a.m. CST

    I hate shia labeouf

    by Lost Prophet

    The last thing I want to see is that little turd fondler crying over his new car turning into a giant alien robot. He was garbage in Constantine, irritating in I, Robot so the thought of some coked up idiot structuring a film round this little tosser makes my skin crawl. Especially given that the little fucker has "creative control", Ganymede I reread your post and you really should have paid attention to what I wrote. So in honour of that: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PEOPLE WHO POST ANSWERS THAT MISS THE POINT BECAUSE THEY EITHER DIDN&#39;T READ THE ORIGINAL POST OR WERE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND IT.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:20 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = mistaking that BIB FORTUNA model..

    by foree forehead

    ..for don murphy. actually no, no that&#39;s not flames on optimus at all.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:23 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = wet handtowel dispenser lever

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:35 a.m. CST

    I was. Bay is the coked up tool I was referring to

    by Lost Prophet

    AND FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SMOKING BEING BANNED IN PUBS. It&#39;s not here yet, but it&#39;s coming. I hate haveing to break up my catnip to go outside and get rained on while I smoke.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MY DEMON LOVER

    by Dolph

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:58 a.m. CST

    what the fuck is my demon lover?

    by Lost Prophet

    is it that shit where the guy morphs into a demon every time he gets a boner. Fuck, you guys remember some shitty films that I seem to have missed.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:02 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=UWE BOLL WINING HIS BOXING MATCH

    by tile_mcgillus

    He won his first one with one of the 5 critics he is fighting. I hope he gets destroyed by at least one of them.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FINDING OUT YOUR ADOPTED

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST

    fuck, they are already happening

    by Lost Prophet

    where&#39;s juggfuckler when we need him. FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= THE EU. Bear with me on this one. The EU started out as one thing, then the people got systematically lied to and it morphed from the EEC to this federalist, corrupt, incompetent monster that we have now.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JUGGFUCKLER LOSING TO DEMON DAVE

    by Lost Prophet

    Say it ain&#39;t so- the fight looks like it is off. :(

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:17 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=EEC?

    by tile_mcgillus

    LP please elaborate on why the EEC is so bad, I mean after all didnt they give you the Euro......

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:30 a.m. CST

    EEC and the EU

    by tile_mcgillus

    The European Economic Community (EEC) was an organization established (1958) by treaty between the ECSC countries Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and West Germany, known informally as the Common Market (the Six). The EEC was the most significant of the three treaty organizations that were consolidated in 1967 to form the European Community (EC; known since the ratification 1993 of the Maastricht treaty as the European Union, EU). The EEC had as its aim the eventual economic union of its member nations, ultimately leading to political union. It worked for the free movement of goods, service, labour and capital, the abolition of trusts and cartels, and the development of joint and reciprocal policies on labour, social welfare, agriculture, transport, and foreign trade. In 1956, the United Kingdom proposed that the Common Market be incorporated into a wide European free-trade area. After the proposal was vetoed by President Charles de Gaulle and France in November 1958, the UK together with Sweden engineered the formation (1960) of the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) and was joined by other European nations that did not belong to the Common Market (the Seven). Beginning in 1973, with British, Irish, and Danish accession to the EEC, the EFTA and the EEC negotiated a series of agreements that would ensure uniformity between the two organisations in many areas of economic policy, and by 1995, all but four EFTA members had joined the European Union. One of the first important accomplishments of the EEC was the establishment (1962) of common price levels for agricultural products. In 1968, internal tariffs (tariffs on trade between member nations) were removed on certain products. The EEC than morphed into the EU. The European Union (EU) is an intergovernmental and supranational union of 25 democratic member states. The European Union was established under that name in 1992 by the Treaty on European Union (the Maastricht Treaty). However, many aspects of the Union existed before that date through a series of predecessor relationships, dating back to 1951.[1] The Union currently has a common single market consisting of a customs union, a single currency managed by the European Central Bank (so far adopted by 12 of the 25 member states), a Common Agricultural Policy, a common trade policy, and a Common Fisheries Policy.[2] A Common Foreign and Security Policy was also established as the second of the three pillars of the European Union. The Schengen Agreement abolished passport control, and customs checks were also abolished at many of the EU&#39;s internal borders, creating a single space of mobility for EU citizens to live, travel, work and invest. [3] The most important EU institutions include the Council of Ministers, the European Commission, the European Court of Justice, the European Parliament, the European Council, and the European Central Bank. The European Parliament&#39;s origins go back to the 1950s and the founding treaties, and since 1979 its members have been elected by the people they represent. Every five years elections are held in which registered EU citizens may vote. The European Union&#39;s activities cover most areas of public policy, from economic policy to foreign affairs, defence, agriculture and trade. However, the extent of its powers differs greatly among areas. In some the EU may resemble a federation (e.g. on monetary affairs, agricultural, trade and environmental policy, economic and social policy), in others a confederation (e.g. on home affairs), and in yet others an international organisation (e.g. in foreign affairs). GOD I LOVE WIKIPEDIA.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:33 a.m. CST

    the eec and the eu are 2 seperate entities

    by Lost Prophet

    and we don&#39;t have the fucking euro and we don&#39;t want it either. Same goes for the ECHR and their shitty constitution as well. The EEC that Britain voted to enter in the 70&#39;s was a free trade organisation. Fair enough, no problem with that. It has gradually morphed into becoming effectively a federal body. The EU has the power to override our laws, we have to pay an obscene amount of money into the fucker for very little back, It is an unelected, unrepresentative fiasco. Ask the Germans how good the Euro is for them. One size does not fit all. Basically the analogy was that we were promised one thing and it turns out we have been given something else entirely. Finally there is the European Commision (or whatever the fuck it calls itself) which is one of the most notoriously corrupt bodies on the planet. What really gets my goat though is that that corrupt twat Mandelson (who should be in prison for fraud) is Britain&#39;s representative to it, and also European Commisioner in charge of trade and industry. The whole mess is a bloody scandal, and while the CAP exists I will remain pissed off about it. Sorry that was dull. Rant over.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BUNTING TO BREAK UP A NO HITTER

    by Ricky Henderson

    Thats a baseball joke you fools. If you&#39;re familiar with the concept, you&#39;ll realize that only Hitler would bunt to break up a no-hitter.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:37 a.m. CST

    and just to ram it home

    by Lost Prophet

    we can&#39;t deport that hook handed islamofascist until he has pissed away hundreds of thousands of pounds (tax payer money)in legal fees taking his case to the European Court of Human Rights. I hate the EU- and not in a daily mail fascist type of way.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:38 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MIXING POLITICS AND TRANSFORMERS :)

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:40 a.m. CST

    I know. I wish I hadn&#39;t.

    by Lost Prophet

    I was just feeling clever at the time, and someone in the office suggested it. FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=REALISING YOU ARE NOT AS SMART AS YOU THINK YOU ARE AND FEELING LIKE A BIT OF A CUNT FOR SPOILING A GOOD RUNNING JOKE.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:43 a.m. CST

    and to lower the tone and get back on track

    by Lost Prophet

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=WAKING UP IN THE MORINING AND REALISING THAT FAT BIRD NEXT TO YOU IS THAT "STUNNER" YOU PULLED IN THE PUB LAST NIGHT. Curse you Catnip Goggles.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:45 a.m. CST

    shit

    by Lost Prophet

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TYPOS IN "AMUSING" FLAMES ON OPTIMUS JOKE THUS RENDERING IT GIBBERISH

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GIRLFRIEND WITH GONNERHEA

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:50 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE MISSUS LETTING HERSELF GO.

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:55 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JALEEL WHITE&#39;S CAREER

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:56 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= MIKE TYSON&#39;S FACE TATTOO

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY&#39;S BLADE 2 REVIEW

    by Ricky Henderson

    there, I said it

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW COKE

    by Badger999

    ...Coca-Cola gave us their new and modernized version, which was universally rejected. We wanted - and got - our CLASSIC Coke. So, bring on CLASSIC PRIME!

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SHIA LEBEOUF&#39;S CAREER

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:59 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE BOSTON RED SOX IN AUGUST

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:59 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=

    by Lost Prophet

    SEVERE LACK OF COOL NEWS THUS FORCING ME TO WHILE AWAY THE TIME AT WORK TYPING LAME FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= JOKES INTO A TALK BACK.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:59 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HOWARD THE DUCK

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STEVE IRWIN&#39;S DEATH

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:02 a.m. CST

    noooooo

    by Lost Prophet

    Howard the Duck rocks. How can you compare that to FLAMES ON OPTIMUS. Scandalous.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:03 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BARBIE DIVORCING KEN

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= HOWARD THE DUCK THE MOVIE

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:06 a.m. CST

    NOOOOOOO

    by Lost Prophet

    stop cussing the duck. Howard the Duck the movie is genius,

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:06 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FINDING OUT YOUR DAD IS GAY

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:06 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = 1ST PERIOD FRENCH

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:06 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LACK OF EDIT BUTTON

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:07 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FINDING OUT YOUR MUM IS YOUR DAD

    by Lost Prophet

    Yuck.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:07 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIKING THE HOWARD THE DUCK MOVIE :)

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:08 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PICKING ON HOWARD THE DUCK

    by Lost Prophet

    you big bully you

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:10 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=INDIANA JONES AGE JOKES

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:10 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SITTING THROUGH TITANIC BECAUSE

    by Lost Prophet

    SOMEONE TOLD YOU THAT KATE WINSLET GETS HER TITS OUT. I fell for that. I felt pretty bloody stupid, and pissed off afterwards.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:12 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BUDWEISER

    by Lost Prophet

    beat that. Bet you can&#39;t

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:12 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BARBIE GETTING A BREAST REDUCTION

    by AGE IIX

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:13 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON PRIME=SMALLVILLE

    by Ricky Henderson

    yeah you know its true sherm

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:14 a.m. CST

    What an utter waste of bandwidth.

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    You all should be ASHAMED of yourselves. I mean, look at you. I come in here and you waste my time like this. Have you learned nothing?

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:14 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MILWAUKEE&#39;S BEST

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    you came in a Transformers talkback to learn something?

    by Lost Prophet

    have you learnt nothing? This is the home of ill informed rants and amusing insults.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=COMING HERE TO LEARN SOMETHING

    by Lost Prophet

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING ASHAMED OF YOURSELF

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING CHIDED BY MR NICE GAIUS

    by Ricky Henderson

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING EATEN BY A BEAR

    by tile_mcgillus

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ACROSS&#39;T with a T

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:19 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING SHAGGED BY A BEAR

    by Lost Prophet

    and then eaten, obviously. Them grizzlies get hungry after sex,

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:20 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MEGATRON&#39;S DESIGN FOR TF2007

    by foree forehead

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 9:21 a.m. CST

    FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MR NICE GAIUS

    by AGE IIX