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Quint's interview with TRANSFORMERS star Shia LaBeouf!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the interview I conducted with young Shia LaBeouf on the set of TRANSFORMERS (click here to read my report from the set!). I've had bad experiences with onset interviews before. Usually actors and directors are, understandably, focused on doing their work and are more annoyed than usual when they have to stop and talk to the likes of me. The interviews are usually grabbed between set-ups and are rushed, short and uncomfortable. So, you could imagine my surprise when I was more than a half hour into this interview with LaBeouf and you can further imagine my shock when we finally stopped 45 minutes after I met him.

As you'll find below LaBeouf had a lot to say about tons of things. His character, people's perceptions of Michael Bay, working with effects, his perceptions of Michael Bay, the story line, the original cartoons and the project as a whole. The interview felt refreshingly uncensored, his comments and points coming across as very authentic and honest. You'll also find more information about the story, his character and the characters of the other actors than most people close to the project would comment on. There are some spoilers if you want to stay virginal for Mr. Bay's popcorn actioneer next summer.

I was introduced to LaBeouf on the street Bay was using to shoot a sequence of TRANSFORMERS. I didn't see Shia work the day I was there, but he was totally made up and in costume. Very roughed up, covered in dirt, with some fresh cuts and scrapes on his face. We did half the interview on the street and had to relocate for the second half. We started talking about what a Michael Bay set is like and I told him about my first experience on one of his sets, with my New Mexico set visit back in May where Bay had the Air Force at his beck and call, sending jet after jet over the set as tons of shit blew up on the ground (click here to read that visit!). The interview begins here. Enjoy the chat!!!!

QUINT: It was kind of the perfect introduction to a Michael Bay set.

SHIA LABEOUF: It is, it is. That's how my whole thing started, just as you would imagine it. You know, "Welcome to a Michael Bay set."

QUINT: What was that welcome?

SHIA LABEOUF: I'm not used to this, you know? I mean, the actors and directors I've worked for and with have never been this. This is a new world. Whether it be good or bad, people take from it what they want. There's an audience for this regardless if people want to... You know, the people who are the protectors of the righteousness of film aren't Michael Bay fans and that's understood. His eye, his visual eye is spectacular. I mean, as far as what he films... it's unparalleled. I mean, he films things that people don't film. But when you start comparing it to things that are incomparable, you know? I've had friends who are like, "He's not an actor's director," but how do you compare an actor's director? He's very freeing, he allows tons of freedom, so it depends on the actor and for me it's enjoyable.

He's allowed me to be free, which also means it's not protected and it's dangerous, but it's all you and it's hard to have an opinion of your own work. The goal of the actor, at least coming on to a set, is to have trust and be able to know that the opinion of the director is solely on him in the moments that are necessary, but it's so big that it's impossible to expect that.

QUINT: Well, nothing seems to be too big for this guy. If he needs an army or their weapons, he goes out and gets them to cooperate...

SHIA LABEOUF: Yep, right. Right. But when you look at it recruiting numbers go up when movies like this come out. It's very political, you know? And when you realize the magnitude of what you're making, it is kind of like, "Oh, my God!" I've done that a couple of times.

I mean, at first you make it either a business decision or a creative move and then you get here and it's a whole different thing and you realize you're in this special little club, you know? At least for me, this is historical American folklore. It's historical. I mean, I have friends that haven't read the Bible, but have read comic books. And comic book movies are that for us, at least for my generation. It's folklore, it's mythology. Religion is dead and this is the shit that people eat up, this is what we eat up!

So, working on it, you realize the magnitude of what you're working on, especially when every friend that you have on this planet is like, "Oh, where's fuckin' Bumblebee? What's he look like?" You just feel very minimal when you're on this set.

QUINT: Did you know the cartoon when you were growing up?

SHIA LABEOUF: For me, growing up it was Yogi Bear and TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE. That was my shit, you know? I would just sit and watch that over and over and over. Everybody has that one movie they just... That was my thing, man.

QUINT: I hadn't seen the movie since I was a kid and I rewatched recently at this theater in Austin called the Alamo Drafthouse. I totally forgot there's a random Weird Al song in it.

SHIA LABEOUF: Yeah, it's nuts!

QUINT: What's the creative decision behind that? I'm just hoping to God DARE TO BE STUPID pops up in this movie somewhere.

SHIA LABEOUF: (laughs) You know, I asked him if was going to use that synthesized '80s shit and he's like, "What're you crazy? Never!"

There's a lot of stuff... you know, there's new robots that he'll create. Or he'll take something like Soundwave and turn it into Soundbyte and it'll become something else. That's understandable, but in no way is he tainting this at all. If anything he's turning it up and modernizing it.

There are certain things, like Megatron wasn't a jet, you know?

QUINT: I'm curious how that's going to translate. I don't mind that he's a jet so much because even as a kid I thought it was a bit weird that the king of all badass villain robots could turn into a gun that somebody else had to use. It kind of took some of his power away...

SHIA LABEOUF: Right, right. That's sort of what Soundwave was about. Those characters all had meaning because Megatron needed that crutch. Now that that's gone, it's done in other ways. Megatron's crutch now is that he's frozen. But it's modernized. You can't have a toy gun. You've got 9 year olds watching this movie and yes, we're creating mythology, but you can't make a toy gun your antihero and then have Hasbro go out and sell toy guns with the little yellow cap on it, you know? It'll look fuckin' ridiculous to have Megatron with a yellow nose, you know what I mean? It'd look retarded.

The fact that it's a Razor, a plane that nobody's seen before, that the military is giving us... that nobody has filmed or seen. I mean, CNN has not seen this plane and we're filming it. It's cool. It gives it that edgy shit. People have seen guns before, but to make Megatron something that nobody's ever seen and make it an edgy presence... it does, it modernizes it and makes it dangerous again. Guns aren't dangerous. How crazy is that to say? But guns aren't dangerous! You've got guns in movies that aren't dangerous at all, you know? I feel like HERBIE THE LOVE BUG could have had a gun and nobody would have questioned it, you know?

QUINT: Maybe stashed in the glove compartment...

SHIA LABEOUF: (laughs) Exactly, it could have been in the glove compartment! But a Razor, you know, with nuclear weapons... Nuclear weapons is what's dangerous. In the '80s it was the gun, but we've been (desensitized), so you've got to amp it up a little bit. And Michael Bay is the dude to amp everything up!

QUINT: Out of all the human characters in the movie, your character has the most interaction with the robots. Has that been difficult? I know they've actually built some full size Transformers. Have they had those for you onset?

SHIA LABEOUF: Well, no. See, they'll build them for the sets that are needed. Again, and I say this kindly, it's a Michael Bay film. So, a lot of it is up to the actors. What's not needed he's not going to introduce. It's not like Peter Weir or Andy Davis, where he'll go out of is way... 'cause (Bay) can't go out of his way because when he goes out of his way there's other shit he's gotta deal with. Here we are in the middle of downtown Los Angeles firing weapons... in the middle of... You know, we're level Orange! So, it is bigger than you can imagine.

So, when it comes down to things like emotional connection with a robot it's like this (he gestures to a street sign... like a No Parking sign), it's a pole with a thing on the top. And now you have to imagine that that's your best friend and that's your best friend dying. It's very Strasberg in that sense. It's all imaginatory. It's creative. Whereas I've never been that guy. It's always been very real for me. Not that I'm a method actor, but it's very hard for me to pull an Al Pacino and imagine shit.

Even when we were doing CONSTANTINE we had men there that were running. When we were creating these demons, there were men there and you could react off of them, as ridiculous as they looked with their codpieces and green suits, but you could react. This is a PVC pipe. 25 feet in the air with a circle on the top. And it's hard to emote, but (Bay)'s allowing it. Even the producers have said, "Michael Bay has never given this much attention to the actors." It's rewarding, you know?

QUINT: You know... I sat down with Bay before shooting and he told me that the whole hook for him with this project wasn't the robots or the action. He said it was the human story, specifically your story, what he called the All-American story of a kid getting his first car.

SHIA LABEOUF: When I met with him he said the same thing. That's why I was into it. I mean, yes it was TRANSFORMERS and oh shit! You're taking me to meet with Michael Bay, but then he was like, "It's a coming of age story." I would never fathom him saying those words. From what I know of Michael Bay and his career and his philosophies on filmmaking, I would have never imagined that. It's something new for him, as it is for me. I mean, he walked onto a set with a 19 year old, 20 year old actor... We'd never met each other before and we've done minimal rehearsals and then we're on set and he's granting me power to have creative control. It's rewarding, it's very fulfilling to know that a person of that stature...

For me and my generation you don't really get bigger than Michael Bay. Michael Bay is the biggest director I can imagine... for the people in Iowa. I mean, Michael Bay is the dude. They don't look at Kubrick films. None of my films who are not in this business have ever seen a Kubrick film. But for people who study the arts... Michael Bay is a different form of filmmaking. But when you're coming off on indies and working with these directors who you do look at like that and then you walk onto a Michael Bay set and you're bringing a different mindset.

I'm not Ben Affleck. I'm not. I'm just not. I'm not the handsome fuckin' guy who can just stand there and doesn't really have to do much to be cool. That's it, film me and I'm good to go. There's a lot of shit I have to earn because I'm not that. So, to have Michael allow me that time to create the character, because I have to because I'm not this... You know, there's a lot of beautiful people in this film and I am not one of them. You can't have a Gary Shandling look-a-like in the mix with all these beautiful fucking people have a grip on the film!

I also don't want to be just a comical dork, either. You have to care for Sam to give a shit about the movie, so there's a lot of pressure on the character and Mike knows that. He allows it. I would have never thought that Mike would have allowed something like that, but he does put massive amounts of energy into that... while shit is exploding!

QUINT: (Motioning down the street as they do a quick run-through with the army guys running down the street) And 20 guys with DOGS OF WAR guns shoot at invisible giant robots.

SHIA LABEOUF: Right, right... which is nuts. Even in I, ROBOT, when we had streets locked off... It was Toronto, you know? (laughs) It's a different city. You're in the middle of Los Angeles. Staples Center is a block away. It's just strange! It's mind-boggling.

I grew up in Echo Park. I used to come down to the fashion district because my mom worked right here. Ten years later, we're closin' the whole fuckin' thing down. We're blowing shit up. It's just weird!

QUINT: Tell me a little bit more about the character you play.

SHIA LABEOUF: Sam is... (pauses). The engine of Sam, for the film, essentially he is the liaison between the robots and the humans. The government is too closed minded to conceive of a reality like this, of alien machines... it's just too much. So, they bestow power upon these people who are experts at their crafts, whether it be the technician or the Dogs of War, or the braintrust who is able to communicate with the robots.

And the reason Sam is able to communicate with the robots... It's not because he knows some fuckin' alien language. Sam Whitwicky comes from a lineage of explorers. Captain Archibald Whitwicky was his great, great grandfather, a 19th Century Seaman, who, during a search, an exploration of the arctic circle, fell upon an ice cave. Fell into the ice cave and into a hand; the hand of Megatron. What he saw when he turned was an eye which burned a laser into his eyeglasses, which was a map of where the Energon Cube is being stored.

When Optimus and the Autobots come to Earth, they're looking for the same thing the Decepticons, obviously. The way that they get there is the map on the glasses. Who has the glasses? Sam has the glasses. So, he becomes the liaison between them and their goal. I'm the middle man.

QUINT: There's also an element of protection, as well. They protect you from the Decepticons.

SHIA LABEOUF: Yeah. Bumblebee becomes my guardian because now that I am the liaison there's power. It's like knowing where the next oil well is, for Americans. Now you have this power, everyone's going to come after you. The Energon Cube is that. Every time I think of this Energon Cube... I know of the Transformers, but when I'm explaining to my mother, that's how I always explain it. It's like oil for America. That's what it is. And there's a lot of political shit in this. If you're watching and if you have the imagination, can become a kid again, you'll understand.

Mike is very political, but he's also very flag-waving American. That's why we are able to have army here. There's army guys here all the time.

[At this point we're led down the street because the cameras can us far in the background. The rest of the interview is finished inside a coffee shop on Broadway]

(Sam) also... You know, when you have these movies about the government and internet hackers... it becomes very big. To just have a normal person is rare. You never have a normal person. (Sam) humanizes a lot of the story because it's so big and because it's the TRANSFORMERS, you need to be able to ground the film somewhere, you need an anchor. So, this story between these two becomes an anchor of this story because it's so simplistic and minimal and because everything else is so outlandish and humongous, it balances it a little bit. At least that's the goal.

That's what Sam is. He's not street-wise, he's not world savvy. He's very sheltered. He comes from a family of very neurotic, nit-picky, sensitive, safety-driven people and now he's at the core of the end of the world. It's a funny dichotomy to have that as your engine. To have the sheltered "I haven't done much and here I am hanging on the edge of this fucking building, 30 stories in the sky..."

QUINT: Is that what you're shooting today?

SHIA LABEOUF: We shot a while ago and they'll probably show you that footage because Mike said it's the most ridiculous thing he's ever shot in his life 'cause no actor would ever get up there and do it. Usually they green screen shit like that. Not here on this movie. They'll wire you and put you on the top of a building, one-handed, holding the (Energon) Cube, and shit blowin' up. Then you're like, "Hey, Mom... what'd you do today?" (laughs) It's just crazy. That's what this has been. It's been a "Hey, Ma. What'd you do today?" every day.

I go home and my mom goes, "How was work?" You can not explain. For me to explain it would be so exhausting. It's just too much. It's too much to talk about. That's what a Michael Bay set is. It's cool to be here. It's also huge for me, huge for everybody involved. But again, it's a Pop Film. You understand that, but you have people like John Turturro and Jon Voight, distinguished actors who are taking part in it as well.

QUINT: Who is Turturro playing?

SHIA LABEOUF: Turturro plays Simmons, who is the CIA agent who is so closed minded that he can't listen to a child. He's the head of a section of the government called Sector 7, which controls everything the CIA doesn't know about.

QUINT: Cool, I'm a big Turturro fan.

SHIA LABEOUF: He's great.

QUINT: I just saw his movie, ROMANCE AND CIGARETTES.

SHIA LABEOUF: He's great. He wants to do a movie called MY DOG STUPID, which is this novella that he's been working on for years. He does that on the side. He's working on tons of stuff. His mind is all over the place, yet he's human enough to be able to just talk to you about football, you know... Buffalo Bills. It's crazy because I'm the same as you. It's John Turturro for me. It never goes away. Happens a lot on these movies. People just assume that "Oh, these actors are all in this club!" But I'm just a kid, bro. I'm 20 years old and I'm on a set with John Turturro and that's Michael Bay, there's Jon Voight and Fuck! There goes Bumblebee!" It just never gets normal. You never get bored of it and that's what keeps you going. It's a lot of energy. There's energy all over this fuckin' thing.

And there are times you hate it. There are times you just fuckin' want to get off this set. Sometimes you love it, you can't wait to come back. It's a mixture of emotions. You ask anybody on any Michael Bay film and it's overwhelming. To do it for 3 months is like... it's just a grind, it's a grind, but the whole movie is a trailer. You can watch 3 minutes of the movie and be blown away. There's more action in this movie than in all of SUPERMAN (RETURNS). You understand that going in. This isn't Bryan Singer directing a romantic film (with action elements). This is an action film, at the core of it. It's an action film and you don't have a lot of those anymore.

You don't. Because everybody's trying to be so character-driven. And yes, there is that type of movie making and I do have those films coming out. I've done those films earlier this year. But those get boring for audiences also. There's the core action film, the purest action film, the Bruce Willis in DIE HARD. That shit is badass and they don't make them anymore and this is that. This is that. Every single shot there is action. Every moment. There's no moment to breath. I remember reading the script and going, "When does the audience get a break?" You always have that break. Even in Michael Bay films where there's storyline and there's explanation.

In THE ISLAND you have the scenes with Djimon (Hounsou) talking to the head of the organization. Or you have the pauses...

QUINT: Or the animal crackers bit.

SHIA LABEOUF: Right. The animal crackers. There's none of that. This is all...

QUINT: A rush to the end?

SHIA LABEOUF: It's like being on a drug. There is no let-up and the only let up there will be is the humor of it. Even the romance is action-driven. It's just nonstop.

You know, we did DISTURBIA, this movie we did earlier this year, and we did maybe 1/4 of 1/4 or 1/4 of the set-ups on this film. When you're not even 3/4ths done with your film and you've shot a million feet of film... It's amazing. It's like working on 3 different movies. I don't think I've ever shot a million feet of film in my entire career. To be on this movie and shoot a million feet of film and have Panavision here every single day... You realize how big it is and what you're doing.

I mean, he's blowing up Escalades! In DISTURBIA we shot one action scene where a car flips over and that was our whole day! A car flips over and that was your 12 hours. What we do in 12 hours here nobody does in an entire film.

QUINT: I know exactly what you're talking about. I was thinking the same thing during my New Mexico visit. I've been to many sets and the easiest stunt or gag they did that one day in New Mexico was the big moment on films I've been to, like BUBBA HO-TEP or even SOUTHLAND TALES.

SHIA LABEOUF: Yeah! What I know of filmmaking is not this. This is a circus, dude. What I know of filmmaking is not this, by any means. There's rehearsal involved, there's discussion involved. This is like, "Right there, right there, right there, right there." And what is right there? You step there, you die. You don't talk about it, you just catch on. It's like being at war.

I mean, we've had dudes who have been at war for 2 years who come on to this set and go this (Shia makes a "Wow!" face, eyebrows raised, etc). And you're looking at them going, "No way, bro! No way you just did that, but I just saw you do that!" And it's for real. This was, like, 3 days ago. We had a guy who came back from Iraq, who had been there for 2 years, and he steps on a Michael Bay film... We're blowing up a helicopter and he's doing that. In the 2 years he was there he saw some wild shit, but never saw a helicopter explode. We were blowing a helicopter up just like, "Yeah, fuck it! Okay, here we go! And action!" you know? It's amazing what you get away with on a Michael Bay film.

QUINT: To me, it wasn't surprising that Bay had a jet flow overhead and 4 explosions rigged on the ground to be timed as they flew over. It was surprising that that was only one gag of, like, 25 for the day. I couldn't believe how quickly he was turnaround.

SHIA LABEOUF: Right, right. Even Mitch Amundsen, the DP (Director of Photography), who has worked with him on the other films... he's done THE ISLAND. He was there on ARMAGEDDON. He was there. Mitch has been there and he said it's never been this fast. Never been this big. It's never been this. It's not me saying it for publicity. It's so overwhelming for the actors involved... it's hard to have any kind of grasp on where you're at at one moment. Mitch has this saying, "If you're not confused, you're not paying attention." That's how it is. That guy's working on that over there, this guy's working on this over here and you're trying to study your pages of dialogue, which you've got to spew out while that train is blowing up. It's tough. It's really hard. It's a different form of acting completely.

You talk to Jon Voight. He's been doing this since, pheww! You talk to him about emoting with a stick. Or Ewan McGregor was telling Michael Bay how, on these George Lucas films, it's just green screen. There is nothing. There are no props. So, in that respect we are fortunate that we at least have a car and (pounds the space between us) a couch here. Whereas on a George Lucas film (Shia gets up and squats over thin air) this is your couch here. It's completely different.

But nonetheless, it's really hard to have a connection with an object that isn't even there and to watch it move... You're being told by ILM, "Here's what he's going to do... He's going to spin here, you're going to walk 3 steps this way, he's going to kneel down and he'll jump over you, then he'll stand there and deliver the rest of his dialogue."

Not only are you now having to focus on your 3 pages, but now you're having to focus on the other actors' movements and imagining what his movements and emotions are. "Now he's doing his thing, now he's jumping..." But the whole time you're doing this you're spewing off dialogue. And the whole time you spewing off dialogue shit is blowing up. The focus... it's like you have to have tunnel vision 'cause if you're not focused just on your job, you're going to fuck up and that's the way everybody's role here is. Your role is this... your immense, immense focus... Put it all 100% on that.

That's the way it's been. That's why nobodies died on this set, nobody's been injured on this set. I've been on movies where guys have been injured for way smaller shit and it's because of a lack of focus. Michael is General Patton. You don't fuck around with Mike and Mike makes it known you don't fuck around with Mike. Mike's a totally different guy when not onset. He's a nice, cool fuckin' guy. He's like a family guy when he's not onset. He loves his dogs when he's not onset. He's a softie when he's not onset. When he's onset. Patton.

QUINT: He's also not afraid to be the bad guy. He doesn't need an AD, he'll be the asshole.

SHIA LABEOUF: That's right because for him it's not about making friends, it's about blowing people's minds. And every day he goes home it's not, "Hey, I shouldn't talked that way" or "I should have talked this way," which a lot of directors do, play this politician game. His entirety, his whole focus, which is almost Kubrick-like... 'cause you'd read book on Kubrick and Kubrick would do 150 takes with no regard to the actor or the crew. It wasn't about that. Until he got what he wanted that was it. And that's the way Mike is. Until he gets what he wants... He says it all the time, "Fuck you! I'll be here all day. You will not leave this set, I promise you. We have enough money, you can be my slave for the rest of this day, until you do it this way."

It's rough, but you know that it's directed and its focused. The goal of the director is to direct and a lot of directors lose track of that General (instinct) which Mike possesses. He's the starting QB and everyone knows it.

QUINT: And I'm sure if you got the feeling that he was behaving this way because he was on some sort of power trip...

SHIA LABEOUF: Nobody would be here. Nobody would be here. You gotta understand... this whole crew has worked with him on all his movies. They come back. It's not as though he's saying, "Fuck you! You're a piece of shit! This that, this that!..." which he does say sometimes, but it's not taken like, "Oh, he just fuckin' embarrassed me." It's like... "You know what? He's right..." He knows everyone's job... that's crazy to say because you say it sometimes, but you really don't mean it. I mean everyone's job. Everyone's. To the point where he could do craft service. Every single person's job he knows and he knows what's right and wrong about all those jobs. He grew up in this.

He was telling me how he started as a PA on Lucasfilms. He used to do file storage for Spielberg on INDIANA JONES and he remembered saying "Aw, this movie's going to be a piece of shit!" and it turns in to INDIANA JONES. This is how he learned! This is his learning curve! Then you have Spielberg giving him cell phone calls. It's not as though he's alone in this. It's the Michael Bay and it's the fuckin' action you've never seen before, but it's also Spielberg on the other end saying, "You gotta make people care about Bumblebee. This is how you make him emotional." And Spielberg is the king at it. Sometimes you watch Spielberg films and some people might say he's too soft. But on the flip side of it, you have the hardest guy in the business. It's a beautiful balance. It really is a beautiful balance.

So, the hope is that the film is something that nobody's ever seen. ILM definitely has said, as far as their shit goes, nobody's ever seen anything like this. You have ILM guys excited. You don't see graphic guys, guys who are in that side of the business, ever go, "Awesome!" They say they go back to ILM and have never seen anything like it. The guys are excited. To be doing something like that is awesome, to know that you're a part of something that is going to change a portion of filmmaking.

Regardless of what people say about Michael Bay, he is the action king. I can't think of anybody who does it like him. He is. And this is an action film. I don't see how you really go wrong.

As far as I've known comic books, and I've done CONSTANTINE, a lot of comic book stuff... I've been reading comic books, Vertigo, all my life. Neil Gaiman is my god. I'm all about the truth of the comic, it's my world. But when you get into the pop culture comics... Even Mike said, "SUPERMAN wasn't our thing. BATMAN wasn't our thing. It was always kinda fruity. Dude in tights with a fuckin' cape. I'm just not buyin' it." I didn't buy into it. I was never the dude to do that. I was into the fuckin' TRANSFORMERS and GO-BOTS cartoons. I was into the tangible. Things I can look at and go, "This is for real!" Rather than walking down Hollywood Blvd. and seeing a Batman guy with a Batman costume going, "Yo... you're a bum. What're you doin'? You're not a superhero. C'mon, bro."

Something tangible. Like, the fact that that (points) that printer could turn into a 4 foot robot and kill me. Right now. As I'm talking to you. Or that (points to my tape recorder) could turn into a 6 inch little thing and cut my face off and burn me. It becomes tangible, it becomes very realistic to the point where you have this character play of where, you know, you're skittish as shit. You're fearful. It's fun to play that. (Points again to the tape recorder again) That's the end of my life. It's the small shit, the small stuff. Somebody's pager could (makes a changing gesture with his hands, like he's solving a Rubix Cube) and that's the end.

That level of fear, the level of magnitude that Michael's shooting at, the level of the pace and the actors like the Turturros and even the Duhamel's... and I've never seen a bad Tyrese. He's an R&B singer. I have no respect for a lot of these rap acts who are actors, but fuck. Tyrese is good, dude. I don't care what people say, if I sound like a douchebag... I've never seen an untrue Tyrese. You go back and look at some of the movies, even BABY BOY, he's fuckin' really good. He's really good. It's a different type of film, but that's not his job. His job is to play the truth of the moment and he does. He plays the truth of moment.

QUINT: He doesn't seem to carry himself as a macho, rapper dickhead with an attitude either. Everybody I've met seems to be really down to earth.

SHIA LABEOUF: That's the fun of this. It's like camp, dude. It's like being at camp, the coolest camp you've ever been to. Everybody's united. It's a group effort. If I don't know where the bomb is, Josh does. If Josh doesn't know, Ty knows. And before every scene you check in. It's like being on a basketball team. I've never felt that kind of camaraderie with a cast. It's always been very selfish. Actors are very selfish about this shit. "This is my moment now. This is your moment now, but I'm going to laugh here to take away from your moment." You know, scene stealing shit. That's not here. Nobody's trying to do that because nobody's trying to steal moments... they're just trying to get through this.

QUINT: Well, at the same time, with all respect to everybody involved, the stars of the movie are the robots...


QUINT: You're not going to steal a scene from Optimus Prime.

SHIA LABEOUF: No. You can't scene-steal a robot! You just can't! Will Smith couldn't do it in I, ROBOT. You look at that. You really study that fact. Will Smith, one of the most electrifying stars in our business couldn't take away from the character. You give leeway to it. It's a different respect for something that's not even there and you know that your whole movie is on that. The whole reason you're here is because of that fuckin' imaginary.

Michael's all about that. He's said things, like... Somebody will run through and Optimus will be right here and they'll run through the Optimus foot zone and he'll go, "Get the fuck outta my imaginary world!!" (laughs) Mike is all about that, you know? Mike is all about that, you know? Mike is all about that imagination and creation. "Don't step right there. He's right there. He's right there. He's right there." At first it's jokey, then it's not jokey. It becomes very real. At the end of the day you go home and you go, "What the... What a mindfuck! What were we running from? What is this all about?"

That's movie-making, though. Movie-making has always been this magical thing for me and since I've started it, it's never been magical. It's always been very show business-y. Even some of the best films I've ever worked on, it's never had a magic to it. It's always been show and then the business. The producers are the business, this is the show... here we go. This has an aspect of... it's like magician's shit. It's fun to be part of a spectacle where you're coming to work and you're amazed by what you're making. That doesn't happen a lot. You don't do that a lot in your career. Where you have Jon Voight amazed at the fact that this is going on. That's Jon Voight, you'd think he was so jaded by the business, but he gets here and the business is different 'cause it's not the business. It's something completely different. That's what this movie is, you know? Something different.

After this he was pulled away, probably back to hair and make-up where he was originally located before our chat. Hope you enjoyed the interview.

I've seen a lot, talked to many people involved with the movie and people are excited about this movie. Believe it or not, I'm still not convinced this is the TRANSFORMERS movie fans want to see, but I am convinced it'll be a helluva fun Michael Bay actioneer. People have asked me why I didn't demand Bay's head in person for the Megatron image. I agree, the design of Megatron is pretty bad. However, in my own experience of seeing the art before shooting began on this film... well, lots of designs I saw there have changed, primarily Optimus. The image of Megatron that leaked doesn't have a Michael Bay Approved stamp in the bottom right, but a Work In Progress, so I couldn't get all worked up about it knowing it could quite possibly be old news. I know it doesn't look like the piece of Megatron I saw in the production art in Bay's office.

If people are still wondering why I'm optimistic about this project at all... well, it has more to do with the animatics I saw than anything else. Every single one of the Transformers action scenes I saw in those animatics turned my geek up. They're all something I've wanted to see on the big screen since I was a child. These Bay set visits have proven to me Bay is bringing his A Game in terms of action, scope and energy. I feel like a broken record, but the only thing that I'm not confident about in the film is how much of the Transformers I know and love will end up on the screen. I'm not a stickler for vehicle changes, as long as the transformations and robots are badass and feel like the characters I know in some way. Some may question my loyalty to the G1 series by not being immediately pissed off about every thing that comes out. I have been pissed at some stuff, have loved other stuff. I'm not going to be the all or nothing fan, I'm not going to hate everything if I see one piece I don't like. The truth is I've seen lots of cool stuff, more cool things than uncool things. That's where my optimism comes from.

Paramount and Dreamworks have been really cool in dealing with me on this project, but they're not doing it for me. They wanted a flow of information to the fans, you guys. I agreed to be the one keeping tabs on what is going on with TRANSFORMERS because they didn't put any restrictions on me. I was given access, but not embargoed (despite what you might have read elsewhere). My pieces are not submitted for approval. I was told "write what you feel" and I have done that. Of course, they don't want me to be negative, but they've been hands off and have allowed me to make up my own mind.

I'm working on one more bit of TRANSFORMERS coolness for you folks. Even those who are completely against this film would dig on what I'm trying to arrange. I don't want to say what it is in case it doesn't pan out, but you'll see me geek out pretty heavily if it happens and I think all you will, too, as it involves the one thing every TRANSFORMERS fan can agree on. 'Til then, this is Quint bidding you a fond farewell and adieu.


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  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:40 a.m. CST


    by Flux_brown

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:50 a.m. CST

    at least shia seems to know ...

    by Flux_brown

    what he's talking about....thanks quint. talbackers...transform and roll out!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:58 a.m. CST

    I just read the script...

    by critch

    This interview confirms that the script I read is at least story complete. I went in to it expecting...hell, I'm not sure what I was expecting. I don't hold any allegiance to the original cartoon, always thought it was a bit cheesy, and an obvious toy commercial. And I was 5 when it came on, so whatever. I guess, unless major changes are made, it's going to depend what kind of fan you are. If you are into the mythology and the history and the canon of the shows and everything, you're going to hate it. Other than Decepticons bad, Autobots good, and the search for the ultimate power source, nothing's the same. As just a straight action movie, it's entertaining enough. It reads somewhat like Independence Day meets E.T., with major parts seemingly lifted from both movies. After finishing it, I realized something. Just about the entire plot and events boils down to a bigger remake of "Small Soldiers". Same plot with the kid who we spend WAY too much time with, after a girl whose part seemingly was written for Kirstin Dunst. The good guys are rather stupid, very caring about humanity and such, where as the bad guys are just plain evil. Most of the decepticons don't speak till the end, and even then it's heavy power-rangers style dialouge. SPOILERS FOR THE END FOLLOW. I didn't like how Megatron was dispatched. The kid does it, not Optimus or any other autobot. And it's just like Small Soldiers. The only reason that it seems to be done is to set up the sequel, as the events strand the Autobots on Earth, with a nice "We found a new home!" ending. Kind of comic-book-origin story quality to it, as Megatron's body is disposed of safely offscreen. There's more. Main characters have little-to-nothing to do, and no resolution to their storylines. Optimus is portrayed as a bit of a pussy who orders the Autobots to not harm humans. Even the bad humans who just messed up Bumblebee, and kidnapped him. And then he has guilt. That's right. In this movie, Optimus 'roll out' Prime is a pussy. And he never says Roll out, except in a subtitle from alien language. There's still more. There are at least three clumsy lines saying "More than meets the eye." They download the internet. A single virus wipes out all communication on Earth. Bumblebee can only communicate by playing the radio, which does have some funny bits, but gets old quickly, and then he has a cliched crappy line that he chokes out during the last battle. There is good though. The battle scenes, particularily the last one which is a battle royale between all autobots and decepticons, (Including Soundwave, who I think has since been written out.) seem to be incredibly kickass. There's just not enough of them. And many focus on the humans instead of Autobot on Decepticon action. Michael Bay's direction seems to fit this script well, and hopefully will make it worth watching. Scriptwise, though, it's a cliched, seen-it-all-before type movie that's geared to the average 14 year old. If major changes aren't made, which judging by the set reports they haven't, it'll come out, do decent, end up about 150mil, enough to have a sequel. Not gonna be a huge blockbuster though, since their market disappears about a week and a half after when the new Harry Potter comes out. But won't the geeks support it, the transformer fans? No. They won't. This movie, like Godzilla before it, is NOT the transformers we grew up with. It's something...else, something different, as someone said before, it's a Michael Bay Giant Robot movie. Just with some familiar logos and voices. The geek market is good for about 30-40 million, as we've seen with Snakes on a Plane, Serenity, Sky Captain, and Star Trek: Nemesis. After that, they download, wait for dvd, or just stay home. This, essentially, is a see it and forget it movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:01 a.m. CST


    by Fugazi32

    I'm 2nd!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:17 a.m. CST


    by messi

    YES! Your name is FUGAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 2 3 Repeater

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST

    where are my fellow comrades?

    by messi

    phategod, lostprophet, tile, thenedain, revsick, kneon. The script remains. The crap with the soldier wanting to get home to a baby girl he ain't never seen. Shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:21 a.m. CST


    by messi

    Optimus Prime always did care about humans, like Superman. And he has had guilt, that's one Optimus thing i actually found in the script. But there isn't enough or any of his BADASS side, the unstoppable soldier.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Geek Market

    by messi

    The other geek movies you mentioned don't compare. Serenity had NOWHERE near the fanbase Transformers had and is relatively new. SOAP was a fad that was an internet joke, it didn't have 20 years of history and a large fanbase like Transformers. Star Trek already had various films and live action adaptations, just 'another' star trek movie. Sky Captain was just a new movie. Transformers has never been done live action before, it has a HUGE fanbase, even the hardcore fanbase is decently big, but the kids that grew up with it. They all KNOW that this movie is something that could only be done now, which is the reason it will make alot of money. People have always said 'woahh wouldn't it be cool to see a Transformers movie with real people?'. That's why it's going to be decently big. But if it was a great script and had a great director, it would make even more money.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:31 a.m. CST

    I could have been

    by Phategod1

    Hats off to quint for the piece at the end. I tink the interview was fluffy all i know is the little Prick isn't going to be called spike and he's old enough to know what a TF is. and there is good chance Megatron won stay that piece of suckage so is it enough to make me and superninja join the Ban wagon. HELL NO but it looks a little better one thing though he mention this not being a singer movie. I almost wish it was that way we could have fun seeing the characters we know and love instead of seeing shit blowed up real good.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:38 a.m. CST


    by Phategod1

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Megatron is a top secret US jet?

    by AGE IIX

    Did I read that correctly? Megatron is a RAZOR... and a RAZOR is a never before seen TOP Secret US JET? And I'm sick and tired of AICN pimping this movie!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:45 a.m. CST

    MB's Transformers.

    by RedFive

    Thats exactly what this is.Its Michael Bays transformers with supped up cars,slick editing and Big ass explosions.Its not the Transformers everyone knows and loves.So just dont go see it.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:46 a.m. CST

    gotta agree with messi

    by Phategod1

    all those movies were failures Star Trek Nemesis failed because of the same reason the last 2 failed they seem like episodes instead movies. For TF i would settle, But, the by and by how long before Don "Aintishot" Murphy shows up and says "i own your site fartgod"

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Bay is THE director of his generation?!?!?

    by Logo Lou

    HOLY FUCK are those kids SCREWED!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Funniest Interview Of All Time

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    Bay seems to have gotten Labeouf hooked on coke, or meth. Whatever drug he's on, because that kid seems brainwashed, on a manic level. "That beeper could change into a robot and chop my face off!" ... Yikes. If anything that inverview confirmed that Transformers may be in even worse, nuttier hands than we though. Don "Tarantino Punching Bag Murphy, I'm looking at you.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Hey messi Im right here

    by Phategod1

    My "Brother united under the dynasty of the primes"

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:53 a.m. CST

    lol I Forgot To Mention... "Bay is a family man"

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    was another great line outta Shaia's mouth, inbetween popping pills. I know most family men love their dogs... and date porn stars, and do massive amounts of coke, and call in the military for air strikes, and yell "Fuck you, you piece of shit, you're my slave and I have enough money to keep you here all day!" Fucking WOW.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Yeah, that Yogi Bear is the shit I'm into!

    by Boba Fat

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Boba Fat

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    Another wonderful Shaia "Jr. Cokehead" Labeouf quote. I think I just like using the word cokehead. The "this is historical american folklore" and "Bay is making a political movie" and all the stuff about him thinking the printer is going to turn into a 4 ft robot and kill me is all priceless. "I feel like HERBIE THE LOVE BUG could have had a gun and nobody would have questioned it, you know?" might beat them all however.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:04 a.m. CST

    So bay thought Indiana Jones was going to be

    by Phategod1

    a Piece of shit. Says alot about his perspective.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:06 a.m. CST

    It's always Yogi that's the shit, never Boo-Boo

    by Boba Fat

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Not Blindly Devoted to G1

    by Playhouse

    Nice writeup at the end, Quint. And certainly no one is going to fault you for being G1 or not g1 enough. I think that is what keeps getting lost in the hubbub. We are fans. We want the property to work. We want it based on G1 because that had the most grist of the story of Transformers to work with. G1 is the true framework of entire franchise. It's not a matter of completely copying what G1 was but using it as a strong reference. That's what seems to be lacking. G1 to me defined what these characters are supposed to be like. I don't mean look. I mean character, personality, interaction. Certainly look was reflective of these traits and that's what seems to be missing. I have no problem with Ratchet being a Fire & Rescue Hummer aide vehicle. I have no problem with Ironhide being a black (instead of red) oversized pickup instead of a minivan. I actually don't even have a problem with Jazz being the small sports car (though he certainly doesn't seem flashy enough). The problems I have are that the muddled color scheme and flame job on Prime go against the stoic, reserved nature of the character. Bumblebee being larger in stature than Jazz and acting like a puppydog go against the scrappy underdog quality of the character. Starscream looking like a lowbrow hulking brute instead of a sleek conniving intellectual (who nevertheless was outsmarted quite often) goes against the character. Again, what I think gets lost in all of this mess - especially all the going back and forth with His Highness of Crap Murphy - isn't that we want this carbon copy devotion to G1. But G1 should've been the basis and the skeleton upon which to build. That's what's been neglected. It's not blindly being devoted to G1 and not allowing or accepting anything else. But it is recognizing and respecting its importance. There. The same argument reiterated again.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:16 a.m. CST

    I'm Downloading this movie!

    by AGE IIX

    No way in hell are they going to make money of me.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:16 a.m. CST

    We may not be blindly devoted to G1

    by Phategod1

    But bay is Blindly devoted to blowing shit up I got to call it a night but bay is determined to make this a movie about "a boy and his first car" and blowing up as much shit as humanly possible instead of the most important characters right G-night.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Totally Agree

    by Playhouse

    Explosions cannot replace good characterization in a film. At least not in a good film. Too often, this is thought to be the case. A lot of forgettable films are made on the thought that they just want to thrill the audience with a bunch of action. Nevermind that it quite often is stuff we have seen before. Action used to be exciting in films. Now's it's become so de riguer that you get pretty much numb to it. My point is the filmmakers seem to have all their bristles up under this idea that we want everything to be exactly as it was in 1984. The reality is we want a movie that is faithful to the characters and relationships established in 1984 that includes some good action as well. But the whole attitude seems to be "who gives a shit about these robots. They're fighting each other and blowing shit up good!" And when we call them on that, it gets painted all over the place to look like we can't get our heads out of our 1984 asses.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:34 a.m. CST

    what a pointless interview

    by Lost Prophet

    a complete waste of time. Although Quint's attempted hedging of his opinion at the end was amusing.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:44 a.m. CST

    also, you little fool, and Brookmyre's theory on action

    by Lost Prophet

    Leave the bolivian marching powder alone and go and watch Reservoir Dogs again. You know the end? How does Mr. Orange die? Bullet in the head? fired by one of those child friendly guns? you utter idiot. Guns are dangerous in a film, if handled properly. It's all about the Bullet Deadliness Quotient. At one end of the scale there are John Woo films- millions of rounds fired and all that gets killed is glass (low BDQ). At the other end is the likes of Battle Royale- not a lot of gunfire, so when a weapon is drawn you know that someone will die (High BDQ) both are fine, but a bad film is one with low BDQ for most of it with a HIgh BDQ ending. It simply breaks it's own rules. Do you know the king of these? Bad Boys, directed by Michael Bay. For the first 95% of the film their are thousands of shots with about 3 deaths and then at the end Will Smith is able to shoot the french guy in the leg from 100 yards. This is why he is shit, he has no care for continuity and no respect for his material. Which is why Pearl Harbour stank, and why TF will stink.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Big fuckin' robots

    by The hoff

    I have to say i really wasn't looking forward to this movie based on early reports / pictures. Having been a transformers fan from year dot but not having gotten into any of the new transformers stuff or bothered to read any G1 comics (i'm 26 for christ sakes my geekiness extends only so far) i do still get quite geeky about the origional transformers line (particularly iconic TF's like optimus prime, jazz, bumblebee etc) and so hearing about all the changes made to the origional transformers and given that this will not be the transformers of my youth i really had two options. I could either get pissed that my childhood memories were being pissed on or i could just ignore the fact that this is a transformers movie and just enjoy it as a giant robot movie. Look at it like this, if you heard that michael bay was making a movie with giant kick ass robots that blow loads of shit up you'd be pretty psyched to see that movie and thats what i'm going to see, not a transformers movie - a michael bay giant robot movie where lots of shit gets blown up.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay... Family Man. On The Way To The Set

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    "Honey, did you make sure to bring my extra big stash of coke? Not the little 50 gram stash, but the one that looks like the life-sized replica of Frosty The Snowman... You didn't!? What the hell do I pay you to be with me then for you stupid WHORE!!! I'm sorry baby, I just need something to relax me before I make things go BOOM! today. Oh, what's that? You do have some? Well take it out, slut... What am I supposed to sniff it on? ... What do you think you stupid piece of shit!? I didn't pay 10,000 a piece for those tits to have them star in Tittyfuckers 4 and 5 just look at em! Now hold the wheel still while I take my medicine off your overly tanned chest. SNIFF SNIFF Ah, thanks baby, that hit the spot... What the hell is that noise? Is that the cops!? I hear sirens! Fuck I love being paranoid! Oh.... it's just Junior, in the backseat. Hey Donny, how's my good wittle boy? Donny go poo poo in his seat? Aww fuck, Don took a shit in his car seat. I told you not to feed him all those peanut butter and jelly sandwiches! Oh wait, that's not shit I smell, we're just finally at the set.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:23 a.m. CST

    that interview only confirm my worst fears

    by FuriousStyles

    that the script is intact, and again, that the people making this films are not fans at all (despite their claims)........none of these guys, cast and producers/director alike have a clue what made Transformers G1 work (and lets admit it - only G1 worked).............most offensive :::::: You know, I asked him if was going to use that synthesized '80s shit and he's like, "What're you crazy? Never!":::::::::wtf - the Vince Dicola soundtrack was great - huge epic and perfect for far end sci-fi, it was only the Lion/Stan Bush/Weird Al songs that have weathered badly since the 80s...........and worst of all - it gives me no hope for the TF theme, transforming sound or G1 soundtracks that are still awesome and memorable today..........theres so many qoutes I could pick apart, but instead I'll say this .........the worst is when someone claims to be a G1 Transformers fan, and then contradicts it a sentence later calling parts of it shit, or claiming that they know better than proven history...........the WRONG people are making this film............I've had enough - all I keep seeing is trash - I want to see those 'nods to the fans' that I keep hearing about - where are they - Cullen is not enough!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:31 a.m. CST


    by photoboy

    "If people are still wondering why I'm optimistic about this project ... They're all something I've wanted to see on the big screen since I was a child." Yeah, Quint I've wanted to see a live action Transformers movie since a child as well. It's a shame that Bay isn't making one... How much are they paying AICN to not totally eviscerate this pile of shit?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Bay = Bad

    by mattyholmes

    Enough said really.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:41 a.m. CST


    by Giant Ape Balls

    Exactly what I thought when I read it. This is Toy Soldiers done on a larger scale. Optimus is Archer. I enjoyed Toy Soldiers but thats what it was. Toy Soldiers. This is something very different and the same theme doesn't really work as well. I was never ther biggest fan of the TV series as they were a little daft but I loved the comic. Anyone remember Deathshead the bounty hunter? Loved it!!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Looks like that leaked script is the one being filmed

    by One Voice

    Such a pity.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:29 a.m. CST

    I agree

    by talbuckin

    Bay is not Kubrick.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:39 a.m. CST


    by jabberwookie


  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:52 a.m. CST

    "the whole movie is a trailer" hahahaha!

    by Horseflesh

    This movie is UNSAVABLE. Period. Has anyone been fucking keeping up?? NOTHING will prevent this movie from being a shallow piece of shit. Bay, Don Murphy, JarJar Bumblebee, magic glasses - this movie is going to suck and the proof is out there. It's impossible to be wrong at this point.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 7:22 a.m. CST

    "Even those who are completely against this film..."

    by Horseflesh

    "...would dig on what I'm trying to arrange." Is it a different film? I can't imagine *ANYTHING* turning my opinion around about this crapfest. Is Dane Cook being publically executed at the end? That would do it. Something good has to come out of this.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 7:36 a.m. CST


    by Lost Prophet

    Don Murphy is being ground into powder and mixed with Bay's coke. I would be for that.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 7:54 a.m. CST

    "Too much focus on character in action films."

    by blackwood

    Bitch, please.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Just Change MEGATRON's face and pose him like the OG


    thats all

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:28 a.m. CST

    "It's really about a boy getting his first car."

    by McGsStepson

    No its not. The movie is called fucking TRANSFORMERS. It should be about ROBOTS. BIG FUCKING ROBOTS.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:31 a.m. CST

    "Megatron needed that crutch."

    by McGsStepson

    That was the point of Megatron. He did turn into a gun and his subordinates had to pull the trigger but this did not make him less powerful. As a kid, to me, this made him more powerful as he was so bad-ass and his subordinates were such his bitches that they knew that they better fucking fire him or there would be major fucking consequences. Damn these guys don't get the fucking Transformers.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Another classic quote:

    by McGsStepson

    "It's not as though he's saying, "Fuck you! You're a piece of shit! This that, this that!..." which he does say sometimes, but it's not taken like, "Oh, he just fuckin' embarrassed me." It's like... "You know what? He's right..."

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:34 a.m. CST

    I have to agree with Quint...

    by NubtheSquirrel

    This is shaping up to be a solid flick. It might now be the movie that all Transformers geeks are looking forward to but I hope you all learned your lesson from Star Wars. Episode 1 sucked ass. But everyone put it on a pedestal do tall that when the bitter reality that the prequel trilogy was just pure ass hit us, it was too late because we had all already seen Episode 1. If anything next summer, we will get to see giant fucking robots throw down in Los Angeles and that will be enough for me. The movie can completely suck but I won't care because it will have giant fucking robots throwing down.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:40 a.m. CST

    No Vince Dicola?

    by Optimus Murphy

    Hey, that's really ok, because they'll probably use the intro to "Shake Your Tailfeather" every ten minutes or so.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Interviews Suck!

    by BigBadBeeatch

    Due to the copious amounts of ego massaging that goes on in them. So much fucking bullshit! LaBeouf's agent must of been whispering in his ear to give Micheal Bay head once a day!!! All this "his visual eye is unparalleled" bullshit! FUUUUCK OFFFFFFF!!! unparalleled until he's onto his next flick's interview and has to send out the same old bullshit about that movie's director!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST

    problems with this interview:

    by Lost Prophet

    1) It's not the fact that megatron is a jet. He is a fucking Alien Jet. What sort of disguise is that? BTW I couldn't give less of a toss if it is some super hi-tech nobody's seen before loaned by the airforce jet. That is not the point. 2) Having just said that Hasbro couldn't sell guns (because they would have to put a yellow cap on it) to kids, the tosser then says guns aren't threatening. 3) He is an actor. Who finds it "very hard to imagine shit". Or as we call it: act. 4) This is the most time Bay has spent with actors. Yet he can't raise a response from Megan Fox without blowing things up. 5)"It's a coming of age story". Well, if so, it shouldn't be, and the fact that they think it is pretty much craps on the Woo hoo GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING line that has been used to defend it. 6)"I mean, he walked onto a set with a 19 year old, 20 year old actor... We'd never met each other before and we've done minimal rehearsals and then we're on set and he's granting me power to have creative control." oh my god, do I really need to comment on this. 7)"He doesn't need an AD, he'll be the asshole." He certainly will. 8)He has the cheek to pick up a geek property and describe Batman(!) as "fruity". I can do this almost forever, but it's geting a bit dull. Even if I knew nothing else about it this interview would have convinced me it will be a disaster. I think Quint did a subtle hatchet job on that kid- he gave him just enough rope to hang himself.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Transformers movie my ass. >3<

    by Peanutchan

    Hey Bay. If you wanted to &#39;modernize&#39; a movie with giant robots blowing shit up. Why don&#39;t you go screw up &#39;Target Earth&#39;! Hell, that movie was made in the fifties so I don&#39;t think anyone would mind. Instead of fucking with something that already works. And Shea, your cute and all but I&#39;ve seen your interviews from your other movies and you kinda sound like a broken record. Sorry.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I wonder if...

    by Captain RawBeard

    ... BL Wiseass will be on here telling everyone to suck a dick in his childish manner - just becuase we may share a different view to him? Me I&#39;m with you on this one - there are things I dont agree with like how megatron looks - but I like the new look Optimus (and I lke the flames) and no amount of insults or childish morons are going to change my mind on this.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:43 a.m. CST

    What a POTTY MOUTH!

    by dead youngling

    someone needs their mouth washed out with soap.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:48 a.m. CST


    by alienindisguise

    To me, the term "modernize" means totally piss on the source material and make it appeal to this generation of stupid kids...plain and simple. I guess Shia got paid a little extra to swing off of Bay&#39;s nuts in that interview. Bay is the Uwe Boll for the U.S...there will probably never be a director as fucking awful as Bay. Lucas comes close but at least he knows how to set a camera on a tripod once in a while.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Well, I&#39;m sold

    by NYSCO6390

    Buy it from the chinese folks outside the pathmark, tell everyone I know that this isn&#39;t a real transformers movie, just a Bay-blows-shit-up flick, and hope that this movie flops so bad that Bay can only try to blame it on Transformers not being a big draw franchise.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Designs aside, the movie still sucks.

    by McGsStepson

    Ask anyone who has read the screenplay. The first 45 pages are literally an episode of WONDERBUG complete with Bernie Mac getting tossed on his ass by bumblebee opening up the car door and Bumblebee playing thematically appropriate songs on his radio for Spike/Sam and Mikaela.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m glad he&#39;s in this..

    by Cotton McKnight

    He always adds a certain amount of absurdity in movies that I really like. I thought he made I, Robot a fun movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I know!

    by Lost Prophet

    that is so unbelievably bad. I have just thought of a new campaign for it (seeing as abusing the fans and modernising the robots isn&#39;t working): "Transformers: The heartbreaking true story of one boy&#39;s unrequited love for his robot". It&#39;ll get the chicks in. Just like Singerman&#39;s comic book chick flick did.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Definately Next years Superman Returns

    by messi

    But it could of been next years other Spiderman.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Morning boys...

    by Flux_brown

    hey, are we moving here? or are we staying wit the megatron thread?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Interview only proves the script I read...

    by NopeNotCool

    ...was the real one. Oh my God! If Michael Bay is the present generation&#39;s director/voice---- Ouch. I&#39;m in my mid-thirties. I found the comics first in &#39;84--- the cartoon came for me later. G1, as far as I&#39;m concerned, is the ONLY Transformer story worth telling--- and this isn&#39;t it. Who could screw up a sure thing? Michael Bay. Who shouldn&#39;t be anywhere near a movie that needs actual actors acting? Michael Bay. This is going to be another Island--- I&#39;m guessing it&#39;ll maybe crack 100 mil--- but no legs and definitely nothing iconic that real fans will want to remember. Remember when movies actually hd substance? That&#39;s what the G1 story should have been. Yes, there&#39;s action--- there&#39;s also emotion and characters. Bay only knows BOOM. That&#39;s the sound of a bomb.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Megatron IS a gun.

    by Peanutchan

    Megatron is in all respects a personification of evil. I might just be getting a little philisophical here but being a gun isn&#39;t say that he needs a crutch. It says &#39;Hey! I&#39;m a symbal of war, death, and destruction!" Does it really matter if someone else has to pull the trigger?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Shia is quite a teenager

    by Terry_1978

    I mean that seriously, just by the way he talks. If it is on the up and up, at least he does know what people are saying about the movie, complaints and all.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:39 a.m. CST

    " you&#39;ve got to amp it up a little bit.

    by RaveX

    And Michael Bay is the dude to amp everything up!"? Die in fire...

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST

    that pisses me off terry

    by Lost Prophet

    that means that they are listening and don&#39;t give a fuck. He is a little helmet, and that was the most incoherent self contradicting, laudatory (It would at least have been honest if he had said Bay&#39;s a cunt), downright dishonest, over prepared, interview I have seen in a long time. And I actually like the Optimus design, I just can not believe that a film about Robots in disguise is featuring an alien spaceship. It defies belief, it really does.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:43 a.m. CST

    at least he knows more...

    by Flux_brown

    about the transformers than tad hamilton! that interview still pisses me off!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST

    the bit that really gets me is:

    by Lost Prophet

    "I mean, he walked onto a set with a 19 year old, 20 year old actor... We&#39;d never met each other before and we&#39;ve done minimal rehearsals and then we&#39;re on set and he&#39;s granting me power to have creative control." That is un-fucking-believable.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:46 a.m. CST

    The Ark anyone?

    by NopeNotCool

    In their in-depth research did the writers/producers/director ever hear of a little ship called the Ark? Tried to clear a path through an asteroid field for this planet called Cybertron? Carried these noble warriors named Autobots? Decepticons used the mission to plan a sneak attack but that made this Ark ship crash land on this strange alien planet, Earth, millions of years ago?... Now wouldn&#39;t that make for a more interesting 30-40 minutes of film instead of a Herbie Love Bug meets Independance Day? How hard was this????? Makes me sad.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST

    oh I guarantee there will be something stupid....

    by Cotton McKnight

    like someone (maybe Shia Lebeuf) trying to make an autobot dance to hip hop. I don&#39;t know if anyone has reported this but I would bet anything it will happen.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST

    doncha just want to punch that kid in the friggin face?

    by chickychow

    Look at him. Just one shot, man, just one clenched fist is all it would take to break that face in two.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Making it modern or making it suck? (TY Wikipedia)

    by tile_mcgillus

    Modernism: is a term which covers a variety of political, cultural and artistic movements rooted in the changes in Western society at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century. Broadly, modernism describes a series of progressive cultural movements in art and architecture, music, literature and the applied arts which emerged in the decades before 1914. Embracing change and the present, modernism encompasses the works of artists, thinkers, writers and designers who rebelled against late 19th century academic and historicist traditions, and confronted the new economic, social and political aspects of the emerging modern world. In the search for continual improvement that characterizes modernism, individual modern movements often disclaim the authenticity of other modern movements over issues such as the relative importance of objectivity and subjectivity, simplicity versus complexity, high versus low and other perceived dichotomies. The reconciliation of apparent opposites has then given rise to additional modernist forms. Modern art: is a general term used for most of the artistic production from the late 19th century until approximately the 1970s. (Recent art production is more often called Contemporary art or Postmodern art). Modern art refers to the then new approach to art where it was no longer important to represent a subject realistically

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:54 a.m. CST


    by tranpkp1

    WHY do you goto the lengths of acquire the intellecual rights to shit and then dont&#39; make them like the originals? Miami Vice. Transformers G1. I agree I like Bay films, they&#39;re fun for me, but he should have made GoBots then to fuck w/ my G1 Transformers!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Creative control for Shia

    by Peanutchan

    Uhh.. yeah. That to me isn&#39;t a good thing. "...granting me power to have creative control" says that Bay doesn&#39;t care what your doing. Just wait till one of those pyrotechnics goes off to close to you because Bay doesn&#39;t really give a damn where you are. I really don&#39;t want to hear that you got your head cut off by a piece of shrapnel. Does your mother know about this?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:58 a.m. CST

    $5 says the thing he&#39;s trying to arrange

    by slder78

    that even the fans will want to see is an interview with Peter Cullen.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11 a.m. CST

    the more I look at that interview the more cross I get

    by Lost Prophet

    and it has nothing to do with the designs. It has everything to do with mediocrity/ ineptitude being passed off as quality. There is an actor who finds it very hard to "imagine shit" (act) in a lead role being directed by a complete tool that has never managed to raise a performance worthy of the name from some far more talented. BTW does anyone know if this little turd went to "acting class" it may have helped.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11 a.m. CST

    I&#39;ll say it again...

    by NopeNotCool

    Look at the Dreamwave comics from &#39;02--- there&#39;s a script that could have easily been made that honours G1 and at the same time "MODERNIZES" the characters. How hard would it have been? So so sad.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST

    nopenot cool...

    by Flux_brown

    my thoughts exactly....i wonder what quints big surprise is?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:17 a.m. CST


    by Peanutchan

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:22 a.m. CST

    WTF??? Sam??? Why isn&#39;t he SPIKE???

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    F*ck this film! I hope the writers get their asses kicked by some psycho Transformers fan.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:22 a.m. CST

    No Desanto

    by Aintitshot

    where is the interview with Desanto? I say he owns this site

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:24 a.m. CST

    In an interesting coincidence....

    by McGsStepson

    Just was reading on Wikipedia that Frank Welker provided the voice of Sid and Marty Kroft&#39;s "Schlepcar" aka Wonderbug which is a far more accurate inspiration for the first half of the current screenplay for Transformers. Well I guess either way this means Welker should be in the movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    The perfect thing for this movie

    by NYSCO6390

    would be for Welker to refuse to do this, and for Cullen to quit because he know the original Optimus Prime character and that this is nothing like ANY of the real Prime&#39;s.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:42 a.m. CST

    If anyone wants to slap around Aintitshot in public...

    by Horseflesh

    The going price is $450.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by Peanutchan

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:44 a.m. CST

    "oooooo, it&#39;s not really a transformers movie

    by misnomer

    ..just a movie about robots blowing shit up! I&#39;d love to see a bay movie with robots....count me in" poor;s nice that some of you are being open-minded about this, but let&#39;s face it- I know nothing about TF, was born in 83, so it&#39;s a little bit before my time, and even I can tell you&#39;re all getting fucked. Face it-this movie isn&#39;t for you, it&#39;s a cash in-the recycling of a premise - robots that transform- and that&#39;s it. I&#39;m just glad theyre being faithful to spidey and the tmnt....

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    is that porn again pchan?

    by Lost Prophet

    and I am gutted that I live in Britain so can&#39;t stump up the money. Can we hit him with a stick?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Yeah I loved that bit about Shia and creative control

    by McGsStepson

    "We&#39;d never met each other before and we&#39;ve done minimal rehearsals and then we&#39;re on set and he&#39;s granting me power to have creative control." It is even funner when, according to Don Murphy, Michael Bay really put Cullen through the paces and made him work and tested him repeatedly to make sure he was "right" for the part.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST


    by Peanutchan

    The military here knows when you are and you can be arrested for it. Even in your own home if you live on the base. So no its not porn.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:53 a.m. CST

    so is it safe for work then?

    by Lost Prophet

    bloody hell, don&#39;t get tetchy.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet

    by Peanutchan

    Yeah its safe. Didn&#39;t mean to get tetchy... The title is said with sarcasm. See the >3< face. Thats kinda hard to get that point across on the internet though...

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:59 a.m. CST

    so you do look at porn then

    by Lost Prophet

    naughty girl.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Porn? Me?

    by Peanutchan

    NUUU!! I swear. Pssh... I don&#39;t even have a credit card. However, if you happen to go to Montana and check out the Anime section stay away from the RED tapes. Thats all I&#39;m saying. Dudes should have watched those videos before putting them right next to the pokemon movies. Some little 8 year olds probably traumatised.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:13 p.m. CST

    final thought for tonight

    by Lost Prophet

    There is still no redeeming quality to this hackiness. I hope it is a bomb large enough to destroy several careers.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    by Peanutchan

    Hopefully not Cullen&#39;s.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Quint&#39;s "Final bit of Transformers coolness."

    by McGsStepson

    Paramoutn/Dreamworks is shutting down the production, auctioning off all of the props, costumes, sets, etc... for charity as a tax write-off, and dumping the existing film into the Pacific Ocean. They will begin a new Tranformers film in 2-5 years. As Quint said, "It involves the one thing every TRANSFORMERS fan can agree on."

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST

    "Too much character in action films"

    by TakeItEasyMon

    Please. That&#39;s what makes classic action films, the great characterization. That&#39;s why we love "lethal weapon" and "Die hard" and can&#39;t remember 80% of the action movies that have explosions and fighting but horrible scripts and characters. Oh, and did it seem to anyone else like Shia had just taken 3 horse lines of coke before the interview or what?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:21 p.m. CST

    shutting down the production

    by Peanutchan

    and resart in 2-5 years... if only...

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Anyone who starts their acting career...

    by Forestal

    on the "Disney Channel" shouldn&#39;t be cast in any movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Paramount read the official transformers board

    by messi

    There are a TON of apologists in there. register on that site, link this thread and the megatron thread, and show them that people are FUCKING PISSED OFF.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Final bit of coolness is interview with Peter Cullen

    by messi

    wait for it.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    This here is cooler

    by NYSCO6390 Just some fan doing the "Let&#39;s open the movie with the studio&#39;s logo" gag, and already it&#39;s better looking than what Bay&#39;s had over a year to do.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Interview rocks!

    by random dude

    Shia seems to be a nice guy with a formed future and his own ideas, unlike 90% of people here.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Great interview Quint, fuck the purists

    by crayotic

    who they really want is a Transformers ANIMATED movie, where things like huge size shifts don&#39;t look stupid. I actually feel a lot better about this movie knowing it&#39;s all out action, because I know when I watched Transformers back in the day it sure as shit wasn&#39;t for it&#39;s character development and heavily nuanced personalities of the robots. Let&#39;s not kid ourselves.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Another thing regarding size shifts

    by crayotic

    Everyone here does realize that the toys didn&#39;t shrink like in the cartoons right? Noone was boycotting them. So I guess if you really wanted you could have Megatron turn into a handgun in the movie.. yeah, a 30ft tall handgun next to a ghettoblaster as big as a house.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:54 p.m. CST

    by PeopleKillRobots

    To prove that everyone in these talkbacks immediately takes a negative fanboy view, no one has pointed out that it was just stated that Megatron turns into a military jet, meaning that even if his robot mode doesn&#39;t change, his alt mode will not be the alien jet we have seen, at least not for the whole movie. To me, that is good news. I have read the script, and it needed some work, but it wasn&#39;t bad. I like 75% of the designs I have seen and can live with the rest. I am really excited about this movie, even as a G1 fan. So just quit bitching.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Non-stop action, even for a Michael Bay "actioneer"?

    by Vern

    I am curious about this movie because it sounds like the worst thing ever. I like how he talks about how amazing it is that the government would allow Michael Bay to show a secret military jet that "even CNN" has never seen. Geez, I wonder if that means a) the US military believes so strongly in Michael Bay&#39;s unique vision for the Transformers that they are willing to risk state secrets to bring it to life or b) they are showing a fancy jet in a retarded kids movie about robots because it makes good propaganda. You decide. But if it&#39;s really the way he describes it, non-stop action with no breaks at all, I am concerned that it might kill me to watch it. I can&#39;t make heads or tails of even the most restrained Michael Bay action scenes, and I can only imagine what would happen to my mental constitution if I had to watch that bullshit non-stop for the 2 1/2 hours or however long he makes this nightmare. By the way, young man, I will forgive you for haphazardly comparing this asshole to Kubrick, but comparing this movie to DIE HARD is unforgivable.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Was it just me or did the kid talk a lot of shit?

    by LilOgre

    Whether it was the multiple rants on Kubrick, Bryan Singer, George Lucas, Bay&#39;s previous films, etc.... Not saying its wrong just weird for an actor that wants another job. He made all kinds of weird leaps about Bay, personal philosphies, his own acting style with the Transformers (like Strasberg WTF!?! OK). He just seemed like he was on coke or dexedrine or something.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Re: the "alien jet."

    by LilOgre

    Maybe the "alien jet" is the government jet. HMMMMMMM.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    C&#39;mon Quint! Get Don Murphy here!

    by W3bzpinn3r

    He needs to answer for his sins. The little coward bitches 24/7 about the fans and other sites "insulting" his film and that AICN was never welcomed on the set, but here you are, talking for 45min to the lead actor. Murphy needs to get his bloated head out of his moldy-cheesy ass and come clean that he&#39;s a blow-hard with no talent and only makes suck-ass movies.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 1:41 p.m. CST

    i love how they try to make Michael Bay sound...

    by Fearsme his assholish behavior is out of a devotion to the project. "he doesn&#39;t even need an A.D., he&#39;s not afraid to be an asshole because he wants to blow people&#39;s minds" There&#39;s lots of better directors who &#39;blwo our minds&#39; without being complete dicks. Bay isnt a very good director AND he&#39;s an asshole. Nice, political way to try and pass off him being a royal douche. Way to play it politically Shia

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST

    A "Razor"?!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Hmmm...I didn&#39;t know they were naming alien jets after classified Earth planes called "Razors". PeopleKillRobots is right, why have none of you numbnuts picked up on that? There may still be hope for some sort of improvement on Megatron. And I heard that they had changed the name of the "Energon Cube" to the "Allspark". But Shia&#39;s remarks seem to state otherwise. -- Like I&#39;ve said before, I&#39;m still interested to see what they&#39;ve got up their sleeve on this. To me, the production doesn&#39;t sound any different (better or worse) than any other major action movie. Calling this a travesty before it hits the theaters is a bit premature. But if the first real bit of footage or trailer doesn&#39;t do it for me...

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    bay is an idiot . .

    by reckni

    shia can&#39;t gloss over that. nice try, your movie is going to suck.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    ruven76-GREAT JOB

    by tile_mcgillus

    Thats actually really interesting. Love the addition of Skyfire and Soundwave. Absolutely love how resourceful and intelligent Soundwave is. You idea for Soundwave makes perfect sense. Too bad they didn&#39;t get a hold of you before this crappy script got put to film. Also the Megatron thing about it being a secret US jet. If those are not Megatron&#39;s final designs, I will be stoked to all get out.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Gaius - my point was

    by LilOgre

    My point was that that the design team may be calling it an "alien jet" because it is classified at this point. So the whole "alien jet" thing is just a cover. Obviously, I&#39;m not saying that alien civilizations are naming their planes after US military jets or that these US miliary jets would be portrayed as alien jets in a film.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Best Footage I&#39;ve seen yet

    by Giant Ape Balls

    This will ROCK!!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST


    by nonsensical

    So far a handful of you have responded. Those of you who have skills and experience modeling, rigging, and animating in Maya. Those of you who have skills in film making and storytelling. Those of you who are FANS of this property. We have until June of 2007. We can make a better film, even if it&#39;s a short, than this group of incompetant liars. So, I say we do. I swore I would never do this, but e-mail me., I have produced two half hour live action films and two fifteen minute documentaries. I have also assisted on crew for many of these films. I have directed three animated short and I am currently co-directing a half hour short, and a two minute short. I have experience in many programs including Maya, and Final Cut. I can work cross platform and I enjoy what I do. If you want a REAL transformers film contact me and we will get started. Even if this is considered a "Fan film" it&#39;s still going to be better than what we will get in July 2007 from this group of assclowns. So again if you are interested in working on models, rigging, texturing, or animation, then contact me. I am at Frankly, I&#39;m tired of seeing the poor treatment we are getting and I know we can do better.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:53 p.m. CST

    THis is called the Razor jet SU-47

    by tile_mcgillus If this Megatron it could be neat much better than what we have seen.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    ^^Yeah I saw that picture on Don Murphy&#39;s boards.

    by McGsStepson

    It doesn&#39;t really matter. Who knows until we actually see it. An alien jet or US Government classified jet is still a pretty shitty disguise. Last time I checked it was the robot form of Megatron and not the jet that was the most bothersome point anyway.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST

    No problem, LilOgre

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I got ya. My post was directed more at everyone in general. I&#39;m inclined to think that the "alien jet" and the "Razor" are two separate modes. I guess we&#39;ll have to wait and see. Cheers.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    Who cares about the alt-form...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Give me the goddamn Fusion Cannon!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    You Pieces of Shitesters

    by Lord Soth

    This coke-induced Shia "RoastBeef Sandwich" Labeouf, sounds like a complete IDIOT! What the fuck is he talking about? half his interview makes no sense! The kid is 20, that means he was just POPPING his head out between his mother&#39;s legs a year before the true series ended!, give him 7-10 years to understand shit he&#39;s watching and that would of make the POP-CULTURE year he was into at 1993-1996...and he&#39;s trying to be some ambassador to the Original Tranformers? What a shitwad!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    uhhh... tile... that&#39;s not a USAF design...

    by W3bzpinn3r

    plus neither article called it a Razor.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Shia Lebeouf

    by brokebackcowboy

    Is he related to that girl from the Cosby show? And he sucked in I:Robot. I haven&#39;t read the interview yet but just wanted to chime in first.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    I got a huge size shift going on

    by brokebackcowboy

    in my pants right now.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:11 p.m. CST


    by Frankenblogger

    ...Transformers is being made as a big "Join The Army" propaganda piece that&#39;s going to somehow entertain AND boost recruitment? It&#39;s "political"? Labeouf is an idiot. Anyone who sings the praises of Bay HAS TO BE. I&#39;m not even downloading this piece of shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Oh I forgot to post this sentence

    by tile_mcgillus

    ACCORDING TO DON MURPHY&#39;S MESSAGEBOARD. Kinda changes the point doesn&#39;t.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Let&#39;s transform this movie into a bomb!

    by Badger999

    There&#39;s a lot of us who don&#39;t like the direction this movie is being handled. Let&#39;s vote on it in the only way that matters... with our wallets. Get a bootleg copy and watch it first. If you know anyone interested in seeing the movie... give them a copy of the bootleg. Let&#39;s NOT spend any more of our money on movies that are NOT what we want to see. We shouldn&#39;t pay to see a TINO movie. And if I&#39;m wrong, and it ends up being cool (and I&#39;d like to believe that), *then* go spend money on it - see it in the theater and buy the DVD. Do not obey Don Murphy, Michael Bay, Dreamworks, or anyone else in Hollywood... we, as individuals, control the money, and that is the means by which we control them. The only way they&#39;re going to stop fucking up things we enjoy is when we stop PAYING them to do it!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Badger999&#39;s got it right

    by NopeNotCool

    When are we (the fans of the original source) going to voice our opinion in a way that&#39;s going to get Hollywood&#39;s attention? Every time a classic is MODERNIZED we just slip further and further into that artistic oblivion where source material (and those that grew up and loved it) is ignored. Enough already... Vote in the only way we can--- with our wallets. If I&#39;m wrong I&#39;ll see it first in a bootleg copy--- if I&#39;m right I&#39;ll make sure that none of my money or friends go to see this Michael Bay "spectacular".

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    "It&#39;s a coming of age story."

    by GornPirate

    WTF?!!! It&#39;s supposed to be a "big ass robots kicking the snot out of other big ass robots story."

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m sick of this modernized crap

    by NYSCO6390

    Anyone ever see the Transformers: Alternators line of toys? They give many of the classic &#39;bots new bodies, and while Grimlock the Mustang makes no sense, Prowl the police RSX and Sunstreaker the Dodge Viper work great, and they have the original&#39;s heads and even transform somewhat similar. Hell, even the "Classics" line is pretty good, particularly Astrotrain and Starscream. Let&#39;s face it. Every time one of them says "Modernize", all they really are saying is "Make unrecognizable so that we can take credit for an original new design, when in fact we&#39;re just badly ripping off a well established 20+ year franchise".

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:25 p.m. CST


    by PwnedByStallone

    "Mike is very political, but he&#39;s also very flag-waving American."

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 5:31 p.m. CST


    by PwnedByStallone

    So it sounds like we will see two forms of Megatron if he&#39;s going to be a classified U.S. jet. I mean the design we&#39;ve seen certaily doesn&#39;t look like omething the U.S. military could create. Not that I care. I&#39;m in the "Megatron should still be a gun" camp. I agree with posters who said that he should remain a gun for the reason they stated earlier like guns being symbolic of evil. This bullshit about how we can&#39;t make him a gun because we can&#39;t have little kids running around with toy guns is exactly that. Bullshit. Last time I checked there was about a gillion other toy guns floating around the fucking world and noone&#39;s bitchign about those, eb=ven if they should be.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    This movie is salvageable...

    by Dead Megatron

    ... all the indeed need to do is fix the Megatron design. I was already expecting him not to be a gun. Alein-looking jet. Sure, what the heck, why not. BUT HE NEEDS A FUSION CANNON!!! A jet with a big gun. O maybe a big thruster for orbital fligh that turns into the BFC (Big Fucking Cannon) when in robot mode. And plus, he could be a bit more humanoid too. He looks like a big insectoid ape.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST


    by Optimus Murphy

    The U.S. military is going to unveil a new super-secret jet that nobody&#39;s ever seen before in a Michael Bay abortion instead of doing it in...oh I don&#39;t know, Iran or North Korea? Right, Shia. Make sure that&#39;s actual coke that you&#39;re sniffing out of Bay&#39;s crack and not detergent, ok?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:59 p.m. CST


    by messi

    please contact me at

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 6:59 p.m. CST

    I know Tom Hanks and you are no Tom Hanks

    by flanaganagain

    Just had to say that as Quint and I guess Spielberg refers to him as a young Hanks. Plus I thought this was the kid from Surface. That kid will be good someday also. Maybe he&#39;ll be the "modernized" Spiderman when Maguire retires?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Eh. Read the interview. It&#39;s run of the mill.

    by Orbots Commander

    It&#39;s your normal publicity actor speak. Shia seems like a nice kid with a big movie career in his future. I think he should stay away from elements in this interview where he tries to sound profound when he talks about religion, war, philosophy, etc. Actors very rarely sound profound, just dumb. Shia, stick to talking about the big robots in Transformers. Also, the hype machine for this movie is in full-gear; I&#39;m already turned off by it and Transformers isn&#39;t coming out until next Summer.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Once again....

    by RevSick

    I think some people are missing the point, no one is saying Megatron should be a gun. What&#39;s being said is that Megatron in robot form should resemble Megatron from the cartoons, much like Prime, in robot form, resembles prime.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I smell a Peter Cullen Interview in the future

    by ShawnT

    I also smell a big fat Bay turd poping up next summer

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:20 p.m. CST


    by RevSick

    If you read the MTV article that is a combo of set visit/interview, there&#39;s something a might fishy going on. We&#39;ll just say alot of synchronicity shall we.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:31 p.m. CST

    "Even Stevens" was da shiznit!

    by aleeminator

    That is all

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Even Stevens was the shit...

    by Forestal

    Meaning it was shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Even if this is TINO

    by The Only Woj

    it&#39;s still going to be fun to watch, some bad designs and all. would I like a more G1 style focusing on the robots Tranformers? damn right. but why would anyone make that live action? wouldn&#39;t make sense to do. if this is as good as it gets, well I&#39;m going to stop complaining and take it for what it is. do I think the flames are stupid if they&#39;re only there to "add detail to the midsection" of Prime. you bet, there were better ways that could have been done ... ie. no flames. they&#39;re not set out to make a bad film. it won&#39;t be an 80&#39;s era Transformers movie, but I still think it&#39;s going to be a good watch, cliches and all.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST

    I will not buy a ticket, soundtrack, figure or dvd.

    by toulouse

    I got your your market research right here, Piss off....................... Take your reinvention and shove it up your ass.............................

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST


    by RevSick

    It would make more sense to make it focus on the robots, since that is what the source material is. It doesn&#39;t make any sense to take the source material and change the focus. That would be like taking the source material of Spiderman and having it focus soley on Aunt May, wouldn&#39;t work would it?

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST

    They will probably make Cullen change Prime&#39;s voice.

    by GibsonUSA

    All part of Bat&#39;s "re-imagining". Many of you guys immediately assumed that since Cullen was hired, we&#39;d be hearing that iconic Prime voice blaring through the theater speakers. Don&#39;t be so quick to assume. Look what they have done so far. They treat the source material like shit. I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if Bay forced Cullen to change Prime&#39;s voice completely....maybe give Prime a Chinese accent while speaking english or something equally stupid...

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 8:56 p.m. CST

    "Bats" ="Bay&#39;s" in previous post.

    by GibsonUSA

    btw I hope I didnt just give Bay any bright ideas....:-\

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Big Opening Weekend numbers.

    by one9deuce

    Huge second weekend drop-off. It will be lucky to do Superman Returns numbers. 160 million is the final B.O. prediction, and that will definitely be considered a flop.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 9:55 p.m. CST

    The "Razor" aircraft

    by Frankenblogger

    Methinks Shia hasn&#39;t a clue. I bet he&#39;s confused something. I think he was shown a Razor but wasn&#39;t paying attention. He&#39;s talking about Starscream.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Want to know how to make a definitive action film Bay?

    by Doc_Strange

    Watch Predator. The premise was simple but we cared about each and every character in that movie. So much that it was cringe-inducing when they died horribly, even after Arnold killed the predator, I didn&#39;t want to movie to end. The characterization was perfect, the acting was perfect, but above all, the ation was perfect, even a bit overkill in some places but no one can complain that it was a bad action movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    THIS is what I wanted to see

    by NYSCO6390 Only released in Japan but the fact that I just spent money to get the game on eBay and a mod for my PS2 should speak volumes as to how hardcore fans want their G1 Transformers.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST


    by Mr Nice Gaius

    He must have meant the F-22 Raptor if he was referring to Starscream.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:29 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Arnold didn&#39;t kill the Predator.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Prime with no flames!

    by tile_mcgillus

    I went into photoshop just to see what their version of Optimus Prime looked like with no flames, all I did was remove the flames and add the Autobot symbol on his chest...I think it looks a million times better. What do you guys think....

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Transformers won&#39;t make $160 million.....

    by GibsonUSA

    Batman Begins was an awesome movie with a relatively slow start...the few weeks after opening I thought there was no way it would reach $200 million....but then it had surprising legs a pulled its way to breaking that number. That&#39;s through good word of mouth and a strong franchise name. As much as us Transfans would like to believe Transformers is a huge name, it&#39;s not as big, as known, or as beloved as BATMAN. So franchise-strength wise, Transformers is beneath Batman. But whereas Batman got strong support from its fans and the community, the Transformers fans have (rightfully) completely turned on Michael Bay&#39;s Transformers movie. It&#39;s been nothing but NEGATIVE buzz for MONTHS now, and it doesnt look to stop anytime soon. It&#39;s come to the point where Transformers FANS are the ones wanting it to fail! SO if this NEGATIVE buzz runs into next year, we&#39;ll have a full year of word spreading that the TF movie will absolutely suck balls and be a disgrace. That&#39;s a powerful impact. Basically, we have a franchise who&#39;s brand strength isn&#39;t even as strong as Batman, yet whose fans have completely turned against it. And considering Batman Begins was JUST able to nail $200 million, and the strength of the competition in 2007, MICHAEL BAY&#39;S TRANSFORMERS IS A BUST. PERIOD. $160 is a dream.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, midnight CST


    by Doc_Strange

    Yes, Arnold or Dutch did mortally wound the predator, thus leading the predator to begin the countdown to the electromagnetic blast, whatever.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m not a huge Tranny fan, but...

    by Shermdawg

    I would so pay $15 a month for a Transformers MMORPG. Imagine, the possibilities.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:24 a.m. CST

    So Megatron is going to be prototype Military Jet?

    by ganymede2010

    Did I read that correctly?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:29 a.m. CST

    "Neil Gaiman is my god. "

    by DOGSOUP

    Heh. Nice.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Juggernaut Bitch: "WTF is he doin?WTF is this shit??"

    by GibsonUSA

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:37 a.m. CST

    tile_mcgillus THAT IS AWESOME!!!

    by ShawnT

    Hell yeah that looks about 100 times better! I was just about to give into "the flames must make him look better or they wouldn&#39;t have done it camp" Now they can grab a spoon and eat my ass! THIS is what he should look like!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Great interview

    by filmcans

    Everybody should be as honest and forthcoming and articulate as LaBouf. Good stuff here (and I don&#39;t give a rat&#39;s ass about this movie, but I enjoyed the interview).

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:14 a.m. CST


    by bomardv


  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:15 a.m. CST


    by Thenedain

    It gets worse and worse. The only thing I got out of that interview is that the dude likes to say "fuck" and "shit" alot. And no, the RAZOR is Starscream, not Megatron. Megatron is still an alien jet. Actually, all this only confirms that the awful script is still the active one. Quite sad. Oh, yeah, Tile, nice bit of photoshopping there! Now, all you&#39;ve got to do is add the big cab windows to the chest and you&#39;d have a nicely reimagined Prime!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:17 a.m. CST


    by bomardv


  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:22 a.m. CST


    by nonsensical

    If you&#39;ve read my other posts then you know that I was asking that any Transformers Fan who wants to participate in making a better Transformers film to e-mail me. So far, eight people have done so and the group is growing. You can still e-mail me at or you can now join us in our forum here. I know we can get this done and I know we can do better. If you do too then please join us. We can and will do a better job.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:13 a.m. CST


    by BadMrWonka

    this kid sounds like my 18 year old sister crossed with a drunk Tarantino...and I&#39;ve never heard someone compare Micheal Bay to Kubrick before...that&#39;s next level idiocy right know, I always felt that Larry the Cable Guy had a lot in common with Thoreau

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Ha! I really don&#39;t want to work this late.

    by nonsensical

    This is fun looking. This is funny. I&#39;m suer we&#39;ve all seen this. It&#39;s nicely done and by a fan. Again, fans can do a great job.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I meant Sure...

    by nonsensical

    As in I am Sure we have all seen this.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:39 a.m. CST


    by Doc_Strange

    When this movie hits, yes by all means post the torrent links, fuck, saturate this and other sites with links. I fuckin&#39; encourage it as the only real way to have our voices heard and to fight the system since the AICN guys are too pussy to say go balls and speak out about this shit, even after we had their backs for Xmen 3 and Fantastic Four.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    My Pitch for The Transformers Movie (Part 1)


    (In case this looks familiar to anyone, this is a re-post of my laundry list of ideas that I had for my own script. If you&#39;ve read it before, feel free to ignore me. But judging by how this project is headed, I&#39;m feeling like maybe I had the better concept. What do you guys think?) >>I so totally wanted to make this damn movie. Unfortunately, even Michael Bay seems to have a leg-up in the industry over some never-been, no-career having bitch like me. What a world, huh? Anyway... if anyone gives a dead rat&#39;s ass (and even if you don&#39;t,) here&#39;s what I wanted to do with this movie. It opens on Cybertron, where the war between the Autobots and Decepticons is still raging, though soon to end. It&#39;s taken it&#39;s toll on the planet and on the robots from all the eons spent battling each other. The Autobots have nearly lost the war. They&#39;re fewer in numbers and not quite the fighters the Deceps are. They attempt a make-or-break ambush on Megatron, but the attack is turned around on them. Now that the Deceps have finally won the war, Megatron (who IS a tank, by the way,) declares out of "honor" for the beaten warriors that the Autobots are officially exiled from the planet. They all have to get on a ship and leave Cybertron forever. Any remaining will be killed on sight. Starscream immediately accuses Megatron of not having the courage to destroy them all now that they&#39;ve lost, but M-tron tells him the plan is to get all the Autobots out of hiding and into one place (their ship) where the Deceps can kill them all in one fell swoop. So the Bots get on the Ark and take off, Megatron and his best Deceps attempt to destroy the ship, but Optimus (being the brilliant leader) has anticipated this and gets the first shot out at the attacking Deceps. The Deceps have to board the Ark to finish the job, the battle continues hand-to-hand on the ship. Prime orders the weaker Autobots to escape the ship (which is almost all of them - only about seven major Autobot characters stay to fight - I knew the script wouldn&#39;t keep every character in the movie, which I assumed correctly.) Shit gets out-of-hand, the Ark veers off-course and crash-lands on Earth (just like the original cartoon pilot.) Everybody&#39;s knocked-out and near dead (or off-line), except for StarScream, who&#39;s just knocked out but was laying low on the ship (to avoid hand-to-hand combat, &#39;cause he&#39;s all talk and full of shit when it comes to action.) So he&#39;s the first to come back online after the Ark crashes in Texas. (I relocated the story from Oregon. I have my reasons.) So SS is online and spends a little time researching the Earth, it&#39;s inhabitants, it&#39;s machines, it&#39;s history, it&#39;s languages (no, the robots don&#39;t speak English on Cybertron,) and he finally decides to use Teletran-1 to redesign himself and the Decepticons to his specifications. They&#39;re brought to life and he declares he&#39;s the new leader of the Decepticons because he resurrected them all, redesigned them, and he knows the planet Earth, so they all need to listen to him, because he&#39;s got plans to conquer the place seven ways to Sunday. They exit the Ark, then SS shows everyone another little change he made with his new leadership - he&#39;s had Megatron redesigned from the titanic battletank he used to be into Starscream&#39;s personal sidearm. He shouts some verbal code that triggers M-tron&#39;s transformation into the gun against his will; in effect, making Megatron his bitch, &#39;cause now he can only transform at SS&#39;s order, and it&#39;s into a friggin&#39; gun. Anyway, SS uses Megatron to fire a shot at the Ark and the mountain it&#39;s stuck inside of, intending to destroy it, but instead, it reactivates Teletran-1 to continue the redesiging process SS started, rebuilding the remaining Autobots and bringing them back online. (Yeah, just like the original cartoon, again.) And since this ends the first act, and this post is getting retardedly long, I&#39;ll continue it in a second post. Stay tuned.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:56 a.m. CST

    My Pitch, part 2.


    So... the second act introduces the humans, Daniel and his dad Buster (Witwicky, if you must, but it probably wouldn&#39;t have been.) Buster is a widowed mechanic. A man&#39;s man. Daniel studies computers, science & technology. He&#39;s not a tough kid, and though he loves everything electronic, he&#39;s not necessarily mechanically inclined. This frustrates the hell out of Buster, who would like his son to follow in his mechanic footsteps and stop wasting all his time with all the highfalutin computer crap. Daniel tries to pass himself off as tougher than he really is, but it never "fits" him. A nerd is a nerd, even if he does try to apply himself a rough-guy nickname... people tend to laugh when he tells them he goes by the name "Spike." So there&#39;s that. Spike and Buster - not exactly the perfect match of father and son. Meanwhile, Starscream&#39;s first act as the new Decepticon leader is to head to the Middle East to acquire as much of this planet&#39;s main source of fuel as they can. As it just so happens, there&#39;s a war going on there between the residents of a certain country (not specified, but you get the idea) and American troops. The Deceps jump in and kick the asses of the side whose land contains the oil, which only helps the American forces, so it is quickly assumed that these amazing jet/robots are here to help the good guys, meaning the US. Megatron advises Starscream that the best strategy is to befriend the larger Superpower and use their friendship to their own advantage. In no time flat, CNN, Fox News, NBC, CBS and all the other major news outlets shout the story to the world that giant, "friendly" transforming robots have come to Earth and have befriended the US, aiding our fight against the War On Terror. (Yeah - the world believes the Decepticons are the good guys.) Back in Texas, as the Autobots are being revitalized, Optimus Prime has Blaster scanning Teletran-1 for just what the hell is going on in this world. They come across the news reports about the Deceps in the Middle East, and though they can&#39;t understand the report, they see the footage of the Decepticons "helping the army" and being welcomed and Starscream speaking to the Earthlings in their own language. Prime wants to do something about it, but the Bots are all still in pretty weak shape and still being put back together, so he knows it&#39;s too late and their screwed. About this time, Daniel stumbles on to the Autobots (I won&#39;t go into how,) and uses the dictionary and encyclopedia program in his laptop to help teach them the basics of the English language. From there, Teletran-1 is able to create a patch for all the Autobots to load into their programming to speak the language. Blaster and Spike (as he introduces himself to the Autobots and they accept without any irony) hack into Spike&#39;s credit card account and raise his credit limit by several thousands of dollars so the Autobots can go fuel up (or at least buy the gas, which they can turn into Energon back at the Ark.) Along the way, Spike gets to know Bumblebee and finds out some Cybertron history. Turns out the battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons is actually something like a religious war regarding what happens to the robots when they die. See, according to Cybertron&#39;s history, when you die, your parts live on. You&#39;re reassembled into a new robot. Or rather, new robots. You get recycled so that your "soul" is honored by helping to create a new life. But somewhere along the line, some robots decided that wasn&#39;t right. When you die, you should be laid to rest or destroyed and honored by your memory. Then new Transformers would be created, then they would die, then they&#39;d be scrapped and then the next generation would come and so on and so on. Of course, the main problem with that is that resources on any planet are finite and eventually, if resources aren&#39;t reused, you&#39;ll run out of them. So those who believe in simply building the next generation decide other planets will have to be used as building materials for tomorrow&#39;s robots. That conquering other planets is just a necessary step in the continuation of their line. The ones who believed in the traditional, reuse/reincarnation plan became the Autobots. The conquering, bury-the-dead side became the Decepticons. And because of the Deceps&#39; proliferation throughout Cybertron, their planets&#39; resources are almost at zero. They&#39;ve almost destroyed the planet because of their beliefs. And Spike realizes immediately that they&#39;ll do the same to Earth unless they&#39;re stopped. ***** So from there on goes the second act: The Decepticons are taken for friends by the free world, Megatron (who eventually is able to undo SS&#39;s "code-command" of his transforming function, kick the shit out of SS for it, and reclaim his leadership of the Deceps) has the world convinced the Autobots are the dangerous bad guys; the Autobots have to use their disguises to survive, while Spike and a few other humans help them out the best they can to save the world from the Decepticons when the world considers the Autobots the enemies all the while; Spike takes the Autobots on as friends (and once or twice gets to cruise around in a kick-ass Porsche or Ferrari to impress girls;) Megatron uses his celebrity and the goodwill of the US (as well as a Senator with Presidential aspirations to champion M-tron&#39;s causes into legislation) in order to steal the planet&#39;s resources out from under us; and Spike and the Autobots devise ways to use reusable fuels to power the Autobots instead of the fossil fuels the Decepticons become focused on. I know it sounds all Eco-friendly and tree-huggish --which I am not-- but it&#39;s hard to deny that reusable fuel sources make sense over the common fuels we&#39;ve been using for the past hundred years. And anyway, amidst all the dynamics of the Decepticons&#39; public facade, the Autobots&#39; non-welcome on Earth, Spike&#39;s friendship with the Autobots and his relationship with his father, there would be as many outrageous set pieces throughout the script involving battles, races, escapes, and chases (kind of like the ones Quint says Bay is planning, which I have to admit I want to see - Bay sure can blow some shit up) as could be imagined. Now at this point, I know my script ideas will never be used, but I still wish I could&#39;ve been the lucky bastard who got to write the thing. And in the Sequel, I would&#39;ve brought in Circuit Breaker from the comic book. Anyone remember her? She was badass. And to anyone who actually read all this shit - hey, thanks for your time.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:12 a.m. CST

    An Open Letter To Paramount

    by hargon27

    Paramount, why are you doing all of this damage control? Why do you really care what a few internet fans think about the colors on a truck or the look of some toy they fondly remember from 20 years ago? If the internet has taught me anything its that despite how much people whine and bitch about how much a movie is going to suck, the opening box office numbers seem to indicate they will buy a ticket anyway. Some examples: X3: $104m opening weekend, Fantastic 4: 56m opening weekend, Hulk: $62m opening weekend. Paramount, dont waste your time appeasing the fans. Its obvious they are all fucking sheep and will flock to your shitty Transformers movie in droves. Your going to make your money, and then some from anciallary properties, enough to warrant a few even shittier sequels so dont bother with the fans. P.S. The script is horrible, I dont blame Micheal Bay for giving the actors free creative control.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:39 a.m. CST

    hargon you fuck

    by messi

    the fans are the ones who give movies legs. the fanbase does matter. look at the drops on those movies you mentioned. Batman begins started off slow because of the stain of the previous franchise, but stayed in theatres alot longer than any of the movies you mentioned and the sequel will be huge. Fanbase does matter.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:39 a.m. CST

    i like your script RUVEN a few suggestions

    by Phategod1

    1. I&#39;d suggest Incorporating the dinobots, and devistator in this version, for to make this a trilogy I think you should end it with Unicron . also how about a paint job for ratchett which could be explained by rachets pacifism and does not want to be recognized as a military vehicle, a la g.i. joes life line. also you seem to forgot to bring Jazz back to life maybe his spark could get fused to a Porche. if My memory serves me right shyfire and Starscream were friends, scientists even; how about he goes to Starscream first and joins the decepticons till finds out what there all about, and not join the autobots but become a kind of loner antihero type. Now every movie needs a stupid love story thrown in for one dumb ass reason or another how about for this one me actually make it interesting and bring in arecee and springer, kind of make it a love on the battlefield type of thing. you have to explain how the Dinobots got to earth and took on the forms of dinosaurs, we also have to introduce the constucticons . Also i dont like the decharacterization of rumble and frenzy or the super computer Idea for sound wave. I still say he should be a tape player with cassettes maybe he scans a pawn shop and boom instant tape deck soundwave. also I would love it if you could have incorporated sideswipe and sunstreaker and maybe get some real brotherly bickering between the two as the fight star scream and thundercraker. also what if there was a alternate action and story taking place on cybertron periodicaly flipping back and forth together till everything winds up at the space bridge. Also i&#39;d like to bring spike back to spike by A. making im a mechanic, B. having other mechanics nickname him spike.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:59 a.m. CST

    another open letter to paramount?

    by Lost Prophet

    Sir, I am well aware that there is no pressing need for you to reveal your decision making process. I have spent a significant amount of my career working in marketing/pr departments in the media so am aware of the need to create/ manage a buzz. Yet some of the behaviour so far is a mystery to me. Therefore, I would be extremely grateful if you would expand on two issues. The first issue is that I find it surprising that your appointees are deliberately limiting your potential market. Surely, having seen recent examples of family movies with an adult theme that have been hugely successful there was a compromise that could have been reached here? The other query is: could you please clarify the stages that led to the appointment of individuals with such an appaling track record to a potentially massive franchise. Firstly, I would like you to explain how, knowing the quality of product produced, you decided to appoint your writers. Secondly, could you please explain why a man whose previous credits include mega-turkeys such as LXG is acting in a producer role. Thirdly, are you happy with novice actors being given "Creative control"? Finally, are you happy with the behaviour exhibited by these individulas? Do you think that it is a representation of your studio that you can be proud of? Do you consider it to be professional behaviour to waste time abusing fans on-line? Kind Regards,

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:10 a.m. CST

    I always thought Bay did mediocre action scenes

    by IndustryKiller

    I&#39;ll give him The Rock and the first Bad Boys but that was a long time ago and frankly what has he done for us lately? The action scenes in his films of the past 10 years have been wholly mediocre. Quick MTV cuts and frankly uninspired set ups only look impressive in the least because he has so much god damned money to throw everything but the kitchen sink into them. He&#39;s certainly never been one to use skillful choreography. Quick cut editing is absolutely inexcusable in todays cinema, even when auteurs like Paul greengrass and Christopher Nolan use it. In fact the action in Batman Begins got WAY too many free passes. Besides that Bay doesn&#39;t have the visual eye Spielberg does. Spielberg offsets his action with color tones and a very well defined atmosphere, Bay is far too literal in that respect. what makes an action scene truly great is the set-up the movie has built for them up to that point. Die Hard is awesome because Bruce Willis&#39;s John Mclain is awesome. Even with a great script Bay has no concept of how to draw those kinds of characters with his camera, and well, Bay doesn&#39;t have a great script to even back him up with this one.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Megatron Query...

    by repus3000

    So lemme get this straight

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:13 a.m. CST

    That`s the exact same way Jackman described S. Sommers

    by chien_sale

    ..during Van Helsing. He talked about how amazing it was, the sets, the actions. And then he turned up this piece of shit. Bay cannot direct a movie to save his life and Spielberg has to phone him on the set to say to him how to do it! The Island was complete junk. Being on the set maybe cool but the results are always mediocre.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Doc_Strange Will do.

    by DOGSOUP

    Best idea yet. Let&#39;s pirate the FUCK out of this.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by bomardv


  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Someone needs to wash Shia&#39;s mouth out with soap

    by googamooga

    I mean shit, why so much fucking foul language?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST

    If this interview acheived anything...

    by Childe Roland was to cement the core demographic this movie is shooting for: edgy teens. I mean, shit! Did you fuckin&#39; count the number of fuckin&#39; times this bad-ass swore in that god damned interview? He&#39;s edgy as fuck! It also indicated to me that the studio is trying way too hard. From everything I&#39;ve seen so far, they could&#39;ve released this movie without all the pre-hype and drama and it probably would&#39;ve done just in the neighborhood of Hulk numbers. And all it would&#39;ve taken would&#39;ve been one or two relatively open-minded fans to comment on how cool that neo-classic Optimus looks up on screen to get the doubtingest haters to check it out at matinee prices. Now they&#39;ve spent so much time prescrutinizing and justifying every creative choice in the kangaroo court of public opinion that is the Internet that they don&#39;t even seem confident in their film anymore. At the very least, early on, Bay had that going for him. I&#39;m still going to see this, but all this trying to sell the picture under the banner of patriotism and trying to elevate Bay to the status of a misunderstood genius isn&#39;t making me hopeful. They shouold really just shut up already and make the movie.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:07 a.m. CST

    After Bay ruins Transformers guess what his next film

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    is? Hitchcock anyone? That&#39;s right. He&#39;s redoing The Birds in his "vision."

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Said it before & will say it again

    by finky089

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by finky089


  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:13 a.m. CST

    There are so many things wrong in what I read in that

    by finky089

    interview, I&#39;d just refer readers to the Megatron TB for all 2,500+ comments on it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:21 a.m. CST

    don&#39;t even joke about that

    by Lost Prophet

    he is going to modernise the birds. They will all be nanotech enhanced, 30ft wingspan, able to swallow a grown man with out splitting him in half.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    BINO!! BINO!! BINO!!

    by finky089

    "Birds" In Name Only!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:24 a.m. CST

    It&#39;s immature and childish, but so is Bay&#39;s directing

    by finky089

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Hitchcock had more talent in his excrement...

    by W3bzpinn3r

    than Bay, Don Murphy, and Shia have put together in their whole bodies. * Facts taken by a 2006 Univ of Conneticut study on talented shit. Only way I&#39;ll watch this Transformers movie is if Jeff Goldblum has a walkon part after the introduction of Megatron and says, "That is one big pile of shit."

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST


    by rev_skarekroe


  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST


    by googamooga


  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Never heard of Transformers til the movie.

    by Lovecraftfan

    I must have missed it in the 80s. Therefore everytime I hear the story robots fighting each other while turning into random shit I just cant help but think how lame that sounds. Maybe I had to grow up on the show.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Nonsensical, TB whiners, etc...

    by moto

    Nonsensical... have fun. But don&#39;t delude yourself. Enjoy filming a crappy fan movie, that&#39;s pretty much what you&#39;ll get. As far as the CONSTANT whiners here? Settle down. You haven&#39;t seen shit. You&#39;ve seen an early draft of the script, which I guarantee you has been reworked many times over from what you&#39;ve read, you&#39;ve seen early production concept stills which will change and/or be tweaked (did you not see the terrible early Star Wars OT concepts designs???), and THAT&#39;S IT. You have nothing to base your bitching on. Shia was not on coke. If you&#39;ve seen him in person, or if you&#39;ve seen him in interviews of the past (especially the Project Greenlight second season) you&#39;ll understand that this kid is an old soul and he loves to fucking talk... no different than your beloved Quentin Tarantino, who loves to talk and talk and talk. In my opinion, he shed the most light on this movie and was obviously responding to critics at AICN. Stop bitching. The best thing he said was that obviously the Transformers need Some modernizing, otherwise it&#39;d be fucking stupid. Like having Megatron as a gun. What do you guys want him to be??? A tank would be boring as hell. A super gun would be lame. But a badass military jet... something worth thinking about. Could work. AT LEAST wait for a full trailer! Wait until you see some effects. Because as of now, you haven&#39;t seen shit and you guys just sound like regular whining bitching fanboys. And in the end, studios don&#39;t give a shit, especially after the SoaP debalce, proving that the fanboy base doesn&#39;t put a noticeable dent in the positive or negative performance of a movie. Here&#39;s the thing, if the movie has awesome effects, great action, and some cool character moments in between, this flick will garner big numbers. Whoever said the movie won&#39;t make $160 million in the end just doesn&#39;t get it. Either way, wait for a trailer AT LEAST. You&#39;re basing your rants on pre-production concept art. You sound like idiots. You really do. I&#39;m not saying this movie will be awesome... why?... because I haven&#39;t seen shit either way. Neither have you. Wait. And as far as the downloading thing... fine, if you want to be a part of the troupe that does that cheap shit, fine. Understand that you are basically adding to the problem of the shitty movies we are seeing today. The more money that films don&#39;t make because of downloading, the crappier the movies will get. And its because of you. Why ruin the experience of seeing a movie by watching on some computer screen or TV? Has the child in you died? Remember what it was like to see a flick on the big screen when you were a kid? Despite the people next to you talking. Remember when there were those times when the movie just blew you away and you enjoyed it even more because the people around you were experiencing it with you. That&#39;s what movies are about. AICN has killed that for you. You pick apart a film before release based on nit-icky shit and you ruin any type of surprise. Sure, a movie may suck. But, it&#39;s much better when you go in blind or at least somewhat unbiased, and see a flick that turns out to be a Star Wars or something like that. Those are the best kind of movies. Ones that come out of nowhere in your eyes. But now, you download, you go to AICN and pick apart anything you get your hands on. Pity.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Anyone Notice

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    That the plants, like Aintitshot and moto, and whoever else, always like to end their little supportive posts of the movie by saying something to the effect of "stop the bitching!" of just telling us how to think in general. If that&#39;s not a Republican&#39;s argument, then I don&#39;t know what is. Oh yeah, God told me to like the Transformer, and that those production still were bulllshit. Oh yeah, and more coke! Cokehead!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Five To Eleven More Things...

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    We can spot a plant. Yes it&#39;s true. From their generic screen names (yea, mine&#39;s no better), to their correctly punctuated, or overly mispelled drivel, to their constant arguments, or decrees of giving it a chance till you see it, or their general calling out, and daring you to like it strageties, we are usually able to see through their muck of shit. If anything, thinking that a studio is pathetic enough to send us an Aintitshot, or moto, only pisses and turns us off to the movie even more, for A) thinking they can outsmart us, and B) being pathetic enough to stoop low enough to admit what a piece of shit it really is by needing plants for it in the first place. -- The person whom I think we should be pissed off at the most however, is not the two obvious sacks of shit, Bay and Murphy, but Speilberg. He has 20 times the clout of these jokers, and if he wanted something, or cared enough about this property, he would have had these crapola designs, and script changed long, long ago. But he doesn&#39;t. He&#39;s almost as corrupt as these two douche bags, he just happens to have talent, albeit dwindling talent.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST

    When I read the headline...

    by HoichiTheEarless

    I figured Shia LaBeouf was a chick. I clicked on the thread hoping for a picture of a hot chick. They should have added one in there just others in thinking the same thing wouldn&#39;t be wasting their time. I&#39;m gonna have to gun it to work tomorrow to get this time back.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST


    by Lucasblows

    ...didn&#39;t everyone already figure out this movie will suck? I mean when Michael Bay was announced as director all hope flew out the window.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST


    by moto

    Why am I a "plant" now? Because anyone that has a positive outlook here at AICN about a film is a plant? Well, you may not know it, and no one else, but I know that you&#39;re completely wrong. I&#39;m no plant. But you go on thinking that. And IF I was a plant, then I&#39;d probably be democrat there buddy. Hello. CAlifornia... liberal state. If you&#39;ve read any previous posts you&#39;d know that I&#39;m no Republican. You stick with your labels though buddy... if it makes you feel better. Fact remains, I never told you how to feel, just that your bitching is based off of virtually nothing. Wait for the movie buddy. Wait to see a trailer. Then you&#39;ll have some weight behind your "argument".

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I am actually a fan of Michael Bay....

    by GibsonUSA

    Believe it or not, I actually like Michael Bay. I thoroughly enjoyed Bad Boys 1 &2, and The Rock. I wouldnt mind being called a Bay fan, cause thats basically what I am. When Bay was announced for Transformers I cheered and was defending him both online and in person. And Don Murphy seemed like such a nice guy to make a message board and talk to fans. I never talked to him directly but I read his conversations and he seemed cool. I was completely happy with TF....but then all this STUFF started coming out....Bumblebee as a muscle car, Prime with flames, Megatron the vagina, teen love story, "Twin brothers under the Dynasty of Primes".....WHAT THE F*CK IS GOING ON????????? I&#39;m not a Bay/Murphy hater. I am a fan. A very very CONFUSED fan! I was promised G1 and was all excited, but all these images and scripts make no sense! Honestly, when the pics leaks, I really thought the few few were jokes. They HAD to be....they were ridiculous! But now I am hearing they are REAL?? I am trying very hard to force myself to like new Prime and Bumblebee, but its just hard. I usually dont like the negativity of IACN talkbacks but signed up just to vent on Transformers. Fuck up Fantastic 4.....fine, who cares.......fuck up these Transformers....that&#39;s hitting close to home!! Thats too much! SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!! BAY!!! EASE OUR WORRIES, FROM A FAN!!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST


    by GibsonUSA

    Your story is okay but as is would probably cost $400 million to make lol. How much $$ do you think it would cost to make a believeable and non-suck looking battle on Cybertron alone?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 5:51 p.m. CST

    hey moto

    by SnakesOnABicycle

    how bout you dont call me buddy? its creepy.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    All-American story of a kid getting his first car

    by NightArrows

    Bay you stupid ham fisted cunt, you really don&#39;t fucking get it, do you? All-American story of a kid getting his first car? The Transformers is about the TRANSFORMERS, NOT Vagina LeBeef getting his first fucking car. How about the story of the All American Checkout Clerk finding out his Register is really a GoBot called "Selling Out" and that the GoBot&#39;s evil long lost brother "Overload" is really the kids Washing Machine and they enter in an epic struggle, while looking "updated" and "cool" and blowing shit up? Yeah. That&#39;s GOLD. Go snort some drano and join all the hookers at the bottom of your pool.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Yeah right guys, you can&#39;t fool me again...

    by PUGLIFE

    This isn&#39;t Shia LeBeouf, it&#39;s Daniel Day Lewis.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Sure thing buddy

    by moto

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:43 p.m. CST

    So What Does Shia Transform Into?

    by LaserPants

    A heterosexual? MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Hey Moto...

    by nonsensical

    I know exactly what we are going to get when we create our story. It&#39;s going to be a story that fans of the Transformers will enjoy. Also, unlike Bay we don&#39;t intend to keep things secret that are obviously not what the core fan base will enjoy. We are not deluding ourselves into thinking we will be making a film that will rival Bay&#39;s. We don&#39;t have the budget he has to throw into this. However, we will get something that will be far more true to the spirit and integrity of the Transformers than anything Michael Bay could come up with. In other words. If you don&#39;t want to help, Moto, then shut the fuck up. You will get your crappy film and since it sounds like you like the shit Bay craps out then you&#39;ll be one of the few to just eat it up.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:04 p.m. CST


    by nonsensical

    Sorry about that I usually don&#39;t go on personal attacks like that, but it&#39;s more of a retaliation. I believe in the people who are joining me in this endeavor and I know we are talented enough to create something great. Unlike a certain production crew who has more funds at the moment.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:20 p.m. CST


    by NYSCO6390

    what the hell do politics have to do with this? I think Bush and Hillary would both agree that Michael Bay sucks ass. And this interview kinda reminds me of that line from I, Robot. Stop cussin&#39; and go home. Stupid actors.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:20 p.m. CST

    No one loves Shia like he does...

    by ubersnarf

    God, I heard an interview with that kid before, and he is the most obnoxious, arrogant tool of his generation. He needs to make a movie with Brett Ratner so they can see who name drops more. That said, still not seeing this movie. Although if they re-release the original toys like they did for TMNT I will be ALL OVER that shit. I only have Trailblazer and the blue corvette dude left (my bro had the real collection). Oh and I have the tapes that transform into animals... no way would I see a movie without them.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST


    by Subculture

    This will probably suck but hey, what can you expect. You know South Korea/Japan/China will be cranking out good films. Regarding the Prime thing, somebody said they wanted to see it with the windows so I just quickly shopped this together using mice and LSD.... Peace

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Nonsensical and politics...

    by moto

    Nonsensical... just read my original post. Didn&#39;t mean to be harsh myself. I stand corrected. If you guys can get together, have fun, and create something worthwhile, kudos to you. I guess my frustration lies with TBers overreaction to all of this... already writing the movie off before they&#39;ve seen anything concrete. My whole thing is to just wait to pass judgement until you&#39;ve seen the finished product, or, once again, at least a full trailer (to base judgement on the Transformer designs, etc.). The reason Bay or any director/studio is being so secretive is because 1) They don&#39;t have fully completed CG designs yet and 2) They don&#39;t want to give anything away. They want people to come see the movie to pass judgement. Plain and simple. That&#39;s why we hardly get anything from Spider-Man flicks besides little bits here and there. Same goes for any high concept movie. They want people to pay the ticket price for their answers. Can&#39;t fault them for that. It is a business and someone has to pay for the budgets. As far as politics go to whoever brought it up... I said that because somebody for some odd reason said that I was surely a Republican because of what I said. I&#39;m not. That&#39;s why I recanted.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:56 p.m. CST


    by darthwalters

    The only difference is that all the stuff they release for Spiderman has the fans going nuts (in a good way). Even though they tease us, they still show an awful lot. The clip from Comic Con showed a shitload, and everyone went bonkers because they are already reassured by what they&#39;ve seen. Even upon the first Spiderman movie release. Just seeing Spiderman looking the way he should swinging past buildings was enough to draw people in. I&#39;m still hoping for that kind of draw from the trailer, but nothing they have released so far has generated that kind of positive excitement. And the fact that producers are telling the fans to go screw themselves, . . .well that doesn&#39;t help the enthusiasm either.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Phategod! All of your reccomondations were good but.

    by ganymede2010

    The one where you said Soundwave should scan a Tape deck in a pawn shop. I say keep it simple. Make him a high tech Helicopter . Then he can eject his minions from his cargo bay. This will keep him true to his chracter. The ultimate all knowing intelligence machine. Equpied with a cloaking device and the works.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:42 a.m. CST


    by ScarranHalfBreed

    Whaaaaaaaaat?! I thought Transformers was about a four million year long war that&#39;s been accidentally brought to Earth, and the good guys have to fight the war in a new locale with the added struggle of protecting the indigenous propulation of their new battle ground. Or did I buy the wrong comic?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:54 a.m. CST

    "Bay you stupid ham fisted cunt..."

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    LOL! Water came out of my willy when I read that.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:52 a.m. CST

    this little shit

    by Lost Prophet

    was the worst thing (outside of the crass product placement) in I, Robot. He is one talentless little shit, and the world would be a better place if people stopped giving him roles. This interview drives me mad especially the little twat mouthing off about "Creative Control" AAAARGH. I am almost incandescent with rage.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST

    The Difference

    by NightArrows

    The Difference between the Spidey flicks and Transformers is that Raimi has talent. Bay doesn&#39;t. With the exception of the god-awful Green Goblin suit, everything they&#39;ve done with Spider-Man has been done with reverence to the source, and intelligence. NOT some TNT addict&#39;s wet dream of a boy and his car with some robots blowing shit up in the background. He may have his audience, but it&#39;s a slack jawed vapid one responsible for the Bay/W.S. Anderson/Ratner machine&#39;s perpetual motion...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Quint you didn&#39;t ask Shia what&#39;s his fave dirty joke?

    by BDuncan

    Quint, you didn&#39;t ask Shia what his current favorite dirty joke is.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11 a.m. CST

    Raimi is overrated...

    by moto

    Very overrated. And you say that he stayed true to the orignal source?? He changed the webslingers... the most coveted device of Spider-Man lore. But you know what, it worked. Because somethings just don&#39;t transfer from comics/cartoons to film that well. And that is why they are going to change some stuff for Transformers. Get over it. But once again, you haven&#39;t seen anything besides early concept designs. So you&#39;re complainging about nothing thus far. Wait and see.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST


    by Banky the Hack

    He didn&#39;t ask because this kid&#39;s idea of a dirty joke would just be to pile as many curse words together as possible in an unintelligible string. Sort of like that insane sentence where he mentions Michael Bay alongside Kubrick. I know those words, but I don&#39;t understand them together.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Leia LeBoushh??

    by Immortal_Fish

    This little turd could&#39;ve picked just about any screen name he wanted and he chooses to go with Carrie Fisher&#39;s dual role in Return of the Jedi? What a tool! Given the bad script, mostly awful robot designs, and horrid casting of overactors who&#39;s names I recognize -- I&#39;d never devoted time into looking up the names I didn&#39;t recognize. With a name like that, I presumed it was someone with tits. If he went with Pepe LaPew at least he&#39;d have the Cassanova angle working for him. Instead, he&#39;s the name of an Arab clan. Again, what a tool! This is the guy playing Spamke Witwicky? The grating, unnecessary pissant from I, Robot and Constantine? The ME-TOO Eddie Furlong of this generation? UGH!! UGH!! Until now, I&#39;d entertained the thought of perhaps a matinee. But now? Any interest I had in seeing this went right out the window. The trailers had better beat the snot out of me to turn me around now. And to think I just posted positively on the Optimus thread. UGH!!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    LeBouf is just another typical child actor...

    by beamish13

    complete with bizarre parents (anyone remember his wacked-out mom on "Project Greenlight" or when he talked about his dad?). Keep talking, Shia. Jodie Foster you are not.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST


    by darthwalters

    If Sam Raimi is overrated, then what does that make Michael Bay? Webslingers, the most coveted device of Spiderman lore? Wow. When you spout poetic moto it brings a tear to my eye. And you are so knowledgable of all things everywhere. Oh, and I especially like the part where you refer to them changing "some stuff" in Transformers. "Some stuff" indeed. Oh, and just for the record. I can&#39;t speak for everyone, but whether they are concept renderings and an early script. What we are complaining about is not nothing. We are complaining about what we are seeing and reading. If all this changes dramatically do you think we will keep the same stance? If the trailer comes out with all new updated designs from those leaked and it shows more character development of our favorite robots, then I&#39;ll say, "Sweet man, glad they changed it from what we saw earlier." If not, then I&#39;ll complain about the trailer too. Why, because I like you moto, and want to make sure you don&#39;t loose practice telling everyone they are wrong. Keep on keeping on sunshine.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Ofcourse TBers never do that...

    by moto

    TBers never tell anyone that they are wrong. Nope. Never. Never happens. I never tried to tell anyone that they were wrong. I just said, hey, wait for SOMETHING significant to complain about.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:49 p.m. CST

    moto, just shut the fuck up about...

    by NightArrows

    "complaining about nothing so far". We&#39;ve SEEN ENOUGH to discuss how SHITTY things ARE SO FAR you ignorant twat. Raimi over-rated? That&#39;s fucking rich seeing how much he&#39;s done with the Spidey franchise. I&#39;ve been a Spider-Man reader for years and not once did I give a fuck about the organic web slingers because it was a MINOR CHANGE. Spidey was still red and blue, his costume looked nearly identicle to what it does in the comics with obvious real world tweaks, and besides, it LOOKED GOOD (Green Goblin aside). Not this fucking debacle of design we&#39;ve seen so far. So go and ram your head into a wall to get the record needle off the rut you&#39;ve been on with regards to "not having seen anything yet" blah blah blah. When we get more, we&#39;ll bitch more, fucktard. I&#39;ll wait and see alright, see the shit evolve into runny shit and then into nut-encrusted runny shit because Bay is a hack and THAT&#39;S the bottom line.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 7:44 a.m. CST

    I cried when...

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    ...Shia&#39;s character died in Constantine...poor bastard ^_^

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:16 a.m. CST

    you cried?

    by Lost Prophet

    I cheered. Good riddance

  • Sept. 11, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Let's transform this movie into a bomb!

    by Badger999

    There's a lot of us who don't like the direction this movie is being handled. Let's vote on it in the only way that matters... with our wallets. Get a bootleg copy and watch it first. If you know anyone interested in seeing the movie... give them a copy of the bootleg. Let's NOT spend any more of our money on movies that are NOT what we want to see. We shouldn't pay to see a TINO movie. And if I'm wrong, and it ends up being cool (and I'd like to believe that), *then* go spend money on it - see it in the theater and buy the DVD. Do not obey Don Murphy, Michael Bay, Dreamworks, or anyone else in Hollywood... we, as individuals, control the money, and that is the means by which we control them. The only way they're going to stop fucking up things we enjoy is when we stop PAYING them to do it!

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Here, here Prophet.

    by Bubba Gillman

    Our major disagreement regarding SR notwithstanding, we see eye to eye on Mr. LeBouf. Any movie he&#39;s in automotically loses one star (or ticket, or thumb or whatever).

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:10 p.m. CST

    I dont understand people telling us to shut up.....

    by GibsonUSA

    I mean, I&#39;m new here, but isnt that what Talkback is express our opinions and concerns?? How interesting/useful would Talkbacks be if they were all &quot;THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!!&quot; all the way down the line? If it was just compliments on everything all the way down the line, it&#39;s be STUPID. Why can&#39;t people handle criticism? Isn&#39;t people openly saying what they think, and giving input and opinions a blessing? People are here talking about how they are worried about the designs and script of something they love....and yet there are several guys here who seem to stay all day telling them to SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.....WTF????????

  • Sept. 8, 2006, 12:13 p.m. CST


    by PwnedByStallone

    looks stupid. better head the original design we say but that gorilla body shit is atrocious. Jazz looks better than expected although the view is small. what&#39;s on BB&#39;s back all of a sudden?

  • Sept. 13, 2006, 1:21 p.m. CST

    You know damned well..

    by scudd

    ..that all of you whiny bitches will be there opening weekend. Jesus, shut the fuck up. Bay isn't making the movie for you aging 80s nerds, he is making it for the general movie going public. Keep crying. Bay is laughing all of the way to the bank. He might also piss on your back.

  • Sept. 8, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    New Transformers Stuff

    by Squashua

  • Sept. 14, 2006, 9:29 a.m. CST

    as opposed to in your mouth scudd.

    by Lost Prophet

    I won't be there- unless something dramatically changes. <p> so fuck off.

  • Sept. 15, 2006, 2:56 a.m. CST


    by YappysDogTreats3

    Suck it! With your flaming batman nipples, and vagina mouths!