Sept. 1, 2006, 1:09 a.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:09 a.m. CST
... out there, living it for the rest of us. March on, brave soldier ... march on.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:13 a.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:37 a.m. CST
That's as close to First as I know I'll get ...
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST
the pic is out now when they can actually make some changes instead of it hitting theaters and people screaming about ghey flames. I'd say another The Island this fellow does not need.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:41 a.m. CST
That's telling it like it is. God Bless you son. God Bless you.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:51 a.m. CST
I'm sure that gave Aintitshot a nice tingly sensation. Transformers will rule! *What am I saying?!* I am so tired. The Demon must go to bed now.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:57 a.m. CST
Does anybody else think that this would have been cool if done like A Scanner Darkly? This way it's animated but still has a cool modern feel too it...you wouldn't even have to alter the robots with flames or include actors that are generally introduced as former underwear models.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:03 a.m. CST
at least for me, I don't want this movie to fail, I want this movie to be everything I was hoping. But with what I've seen thus far, untill I see something else I'm going to be wary. I don't need flawless replication, I'm alright with Prime, I understand changing the car models, but the rest just doesn't give me a warm feeling. I don't want to be told to wait till I pay ten bucks, I've done that enough, Aliens Vs. Predator, Halloween Resurection, Star Trek Nemesis, amongst others, I've had enough of being told to wait and see and getting jacked out of my money, show me something that makes me want to see it and I'll see it. I've seen way too many bad movies, I did work for Tromaafter all, and it's all fine and dandy when I pay two bucks to rent it, or see it for free, but it's another when I pay ten to see it in a crowded theater.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:03 a.m. CST
you wanna see this shit full action and for real. www.obsessedwithfilm.com
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:16 a.m. CST
I Hate the flames, who cares about ribs the flames look like they belong in Over The Top with Sly.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:23 a.m. CST
Prime looks great so far, can't wait to see him tranform. Bay has been really cool too with his interaction with fans...he didn't have to explain why he went with the flames, but he did. All of this will be moot anyway when the first real trailer hits, I believe.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:26 a.m. CST
or is there still too many Humans i saw nothing that made me feel warm and fuzzy I dont know and niether did Quint really say this looks like its going to be a great movie either.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:26 a.m. CST
2000 hits for one fucking article and you neglect to say something about Megatron? You know damn well that nobody had a problem with the Optimus flames once they got a glimpse of Bay's Megafuck. I'm sick of your fucking pussy-footing! Just admit that you, Bay, Di Bonaventura, and pretty boy Mccoy Josh Duhamel don't know shit!!!! Fuckers!
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:30 a.m. CST
You have to go back to the kiddie table now.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:37 a.m. CST
The set visit happened WAY before the Megatron picture hit. So chill the fuck out and fall back on your other reasons to hate AICN.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:54 a.m. CST
...and he DOESN'T have flames emblazoned across his chest, is anyone gonna bitch?
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:55 a.m. CST
Is he going to be voicing Ironhide as well? Just like he did in the cartoons??
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:55 a.m. CST
set visit happened Sunday AFTER megatron picture This site is bought
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:02 a.m. CST
by Ronins Fire
God I love being a turtle. No but seriously, we can't blame Bay for the robot designs, that's all Hasbro they are the one's with the toys, it is their property after all. Besides, Spewberg is more to blam than Bay.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:19 a.m. CST
I understand I'm new here, but my post count doesn't void the validity of my post. I've never, ever, seen someone as unprofessional as Don Murphy. Now when he was posting stuff on his own boards that was fine, they're his boards, I paid it no mind. Then he decided to pick on Kneon for stating his opinion of the direction of the design, as an artist I agree with Kneon the design of Megatron is bad, he was polite about it and that should have been that. But Don chose, note the wording there, he CHOSE to go after him lobbing personal insults his way in a very childish manner. He couldn't defend the design change so he chose to attack Kneon personally. Then he decides to go on the attack on AICN and Seibertron, thinking everyone should be kneeling before his feet because he decided to step down from on high to mingle with us little people. And when he does he's every bit as vitriolic and mean spirited while simultaneously asking that everyone else treat him with respect although none has been earned. I know another person in the film industry who does that Mr. Murphy, and that's Uwe Boll and don't think that that attitude has done him any favors. I have a message for you Mr. Murphy, I do not have to give you my money, and neither does anyone else. We will not "wait and see" when you've given us no reason to. You've done everything to piss on everyone who has a disagrement with your handling of this property, and then you complain to your "stooges" that we're the bad guys, we're the villians. Excuse me if I'm wrong but aren't you the producer of this film, aren't you part of the decision making process that agrees to things like rolling out a giant G1 style Optimus Prime truck at Comic-Con 05? Did you not see the video presentation at comic con that was extreamly focused on G1? Were you not apart of any of these decisions, were you not privy to this information? Are you trying to claim that you had nothing to do with any of the direct references and claims that were made relating this film to G1? And you wonder why we're upset, you wonder why we're not just going along with it, handing you our money? The answer is simple, you lied to us, you missed the point and you won't admit it, you thought all we wanted was giant robots, but you were wrong, so very wrong. There are so many wonderfull people in the film industry, I've met many, they are gracious and willing to admit their misteps. You sir are giving them all a bad name, all the people who bust their asses to make films, all the people from gaffers, to PAs and the rest of the people it takes to make a film are all given a bad name by the actions you've chosen to take in your "defense" of your "Transformers" film. If the powers that be are smart they will remove you from this film all together, for you are tainting this film even more so by your precence and association than that hideous Megatron design. I would not see this movie simply because it will put money in your wallet and you are not deserving of one dollar of anything made off of this film. You should not be let anywhere near a film set ever again for the disgraceful way you have handled yourself and you owe everyone here and transformers fans everywhere, whether they have been a member for years with thousands of posts or a lowly newbie like myself making their first post, whether they've been a fan since the original release of G1 or someone who's recently discoverd it an apology.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:24 a.m. CST
BTW, anyone know when the next trailer is supposed to hit?
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:26 a.m. CST
"We can't blame Bay for the robot designs?" Are you joking? Sure it's Hasbro who has final say on TOY DESIGN, but Bay has more control on the FILM DESIGN than you think. He is the director after all, and "Spewberg" as you call him is not more to blame than Bay. Spielberg, which this is how you spell it since you are too lazy to look it up, has been covert on this one and probably for good reason. And "God I love being a turtle?" is one of the dumbest lines from all the dumb lines from TMNT, plus this is the Bayformers hating talkback, not the quote a crap line from a mediocre kids show.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:29 a.m. CST
I was more excited than anyone when I found out they were actually going forward with this project. But... "I mean, is it really that hard to mess up a giant fighting robot movie?" THIS is the problem and has been all along. This is NOT a Tranformers movie. This is a Michael Bay giant robot movie. I could give two fucks. The script is AWFUL (I don't care what Bay said about having the only copy of the script, the shit they have filmed already was OBVIOUSLY some of the same shit I read) and I don't recognize the characters. BAD script, UNKNOWN characters... why should I give a FUCK? Fuck Bay for thinking he can remake a classic in his own image and fuck Don Murphy for his attitude problem. I hope this movie bombs. My Transformers are clearly dead and never coming back. I hope they lose a fortune while raping the corpses.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:37 a.m. CST
"this is the Bayformers hating talkback, not the quote a crap line from a mediocre kids show."
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:54 a.m. CST
...Sounds like Bay's directing like James Cameron - y'know, screaming and shouting at people and hoping that motivates them. I'm actually eager to see this film, though, and I guess that was the point of inviting Quint back. Good also to see Bay listening to our concerns about the flames and everything (which I wasn't too fussed about), maybe he'll listen to our concerns about Megatron looking like a big silver dog plop.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:01 a.m. CST
I'm intrigued. I know nothing of Don Murphy. Think I'll do a Google on him.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:14 a.m. CST
...So we can all get worked up into a frenzy about Leader-1 being turned into a Russian MiG-29 with purple fins instead of a standard grey F-15 Eagle. Or how Cy-Kill is now a some kind of intergalactic Gobotronian Vespa with additional sidecar. Man, I'm starting to love these "Transformers" talkbacks! I guess some of what Quint reported sounds promising but the things I've gleaned from that leaked script are just downright awful (like the Energon Cube giving "spark" to an iPod and an X-Box, causing them to sprout tiny arms and legs and throw temper tantrums). As for the flames on Prime, I'm not too worried. He looks pretty impressive in his robot mode and he still retains some of his classic design, unlike Megatron and Starscream who both look like liquid shit.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:16 a.m. CST
If you go on IMDB you'll find his name conspicuosly missing from the Transformers list of credits, hmmmmm, curious.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:21 a.m. CST
Basically robots that turn into, um, rocks. How dificult were THEY to design? I had a big, perfectly round silver one. Obviously.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:25 a.m. CST
It really makes a guy feel great that he can make a millionaire so pissed off with a few choice words, Huzzah everyone!
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:35 a.m. CST
"...causing them to sprout tiny arms and legs and throw temper tantrums." That better be a fuckin' joke. Just been to Murphy's website and - wow, what a cock. I wonder what creative flair this cunt actually posesses, apart from insulting the very people that he's trying to sell his product to.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:51 a.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:51 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
when Quint was describing how Bay failed to get enough of an emotional response from his actress, so blew more shit up (that's motivating your actors!) this told me everything I need to know about the twat's utter inability to direct human beings- and seeing as he has made humans the focus off the movie, well- there are going to be some pretty wooden, shitty performances,
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:11 a.m. CST
They've comepletely fucked the TF designs, what's the point of AICN even covering this film anymore? We all know Bay has totally screwed it up.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:20 a.m. CST
The iPod thing is actually in the script. The one scene that has been rumored lately that isn't featured in the script but is hinted at in Quint's article is the Furby scene. Apparently, the dolls that are tossed from the Hasbro truck are hit by a random pulse from the Energon Cube and are given life (this is the scene in the script where various mechanical and electronic devices are hit with the "spark," including the X-Box I mentioned). I'm sure we'll be in for some gut-busting laughs next summer when FURBY GOES APESHIT!, an idea so brilliant it would make a mutant Hulk-poodle jealous.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:23 a.m. CST
I want a Centurians movie, (does anyone actually remember them or was I heavily medicated as a child?)
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:31 a.m. CST
Welcome to the party, pal.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:40 a.m. CST
You know, it's kind of sad to read these reports. You get these interviews with these actors who really want to make a quality film and have a good time and let that come through on-screen for the audience. Even Bay seems enthusiastic for the film (his film not necessarily a TF film) and it's hard to fault the guy for his gumption. But then you see the skeleton & framework that they have to work with, that they are hanging their work on and you just have to be sad. Yes, with all of this talk about there being script rewrites since the leaked Prime Directive script from February, it's painfully obvious that the basic story structure is still in place and more than likely that both the characters and the dialogue really haven't been improved on that much. In fact, adding little bits like the flaming Furbys only serves to make this film more groan-inducing. And while I can't fault Bay his enthusiasm, I can fault him for moving forward with such a lackluster script. Yes, the script is merely a blueprint from which to build a film. What actually appears on film, what gets cut together, performances from actors, can actually bring a film to life in ways that a script can't really show. But the script and the story are such a vital part of any movie that they have to be good in order for the rest of the production to move up from there. And what we're seeing - as much as I'd like to get excited (just not happening) - just seems to be garnish on a plate mediocre. Again, I think the biggest disservice comes down to this belief that it's just a movie with "giant fucking robots fighting." That attitude and approach is steering this film into forgettable.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:43 a.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:46 a.m. CST
That's terrible. I'm speechless.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:49 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
I usually am with enough coke to give the ghost of Pablo Escobar a hard on jammed up my nose. This Just in: Other things Bay's enthusiastic about- 1) Junk Mail, 2) Drugs, 3) daylight 4) Drugs 5) cartoons, 6) Drugs, 7) THINGS GO BANG BANG, 8) Drugs, 9)Music with a pounding beat, 10) Drugs, you get the idea.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:08 a.m. CST
Harry and gang screamed and cried and bitched about X3. How nothing was even remotely right with the film. I was an abomination, yadda yadda yadda. They never reported anything on the film, and left other sites to cover it, while they gushed all over Superman & Singer. Now they are doing it with Transformers. Out of the three X-Men movies, X3 feels most like the comicbook. Ridiculous plot, too many characters, and forced drama is what makes Uncanny X-Men fun... Harry saw it as a bastardization. A rape of his childhood. X3 even had a fairly faithful look to the comics. Transformers the Bay Movie doesn't even have that. Anyone who has seen the Masterpiece Optimus toy knows that you can make a stellar 3D articulated transformer that looks like the cartoon. Why did they then have to go with the crappy designs that insult the 30 year legacy of Transformers? What's worse is AICN GLORIFIES Bay and praises him for doing his own thing. What is the deal with Megatron and Starscream? They look NOTHING like transformers. They look like rejects from a Power Rangers cartoon. I swear to god, Megatron better be a guy in a rubber suit with the way he looks. Where is Megatron's plasma cannon? Where is ANYTHING from the source material in this movie? This movie is setting itself up to stand alongside such film classics as "Mario Brothers," "Masters of the Universe," and "Street Fighter." Maybe they'll get Dolph Lundgren to wear the rubber Megatron suit. I hope this movie bombs horribly. I hope it ruins alot of people's careers.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:11 a.m. CST
cannon. I don't want any fanboy nerds chasing me around town.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:24 a.m. CST
I'll look forward to that in the movie, lol.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:37 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
the more hiring cullen looks like a pretty shitty sop to the fans. It almost screams "Look, I have done something for you, be grateful, come give me your money"
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:51 a.m. CST
And FUCK Don Murphy. Let's just get Tarantino to push him around again. I'd rather pay to see footage of that as opposed to some 2 hour Bay cliche fest where he does more damage to Transformers than Unicron ever did.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:54 a.m. CST
They're sucking Murphy off again on his board. Yippee. They bitch and moan about us bitching and moaning about the movie and yet fail to see that we have serious and legitimate gripes and want nothing more than to see, first, a quality film made and second, a superb Transformers story told. They think we're a mindless hating horde when the truth is they are blindly following this simp around, answering to the always-unifying call of "stooges". I will give it up to the few brave souls who post on there challenging the popular "opinion" on that board. Here's to hoping they don't get banned.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:58 a.m. CST
Will all you bitchers and whiny little fuckers please please... SHUT THE FUCK UP!! For christ's sake what's wrong with you? What are you, like 12? At least let them complete the movie, see it and THEN say what you think. I've been a Transformers fan since '84 and I really can't wait to see this. It isn't the Comic Books, it IS'NT the cartoon, it's a big-ass live action movie and changes had to be made. All the designs so far look really cool (especially Prime). So how about we have a little less of the stupid, childish "Prime has flames so my entire life is ruined" and "I hope it ruins people's careers" BULLSHIT.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:59 a.m. CST
The changes are iffy but it should be a solid action romp. Funny web-comic - http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/comics-13
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:05 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
you are a plant TrueRed. If I look at your post it reads either that a teenager or a plant wrote it, seeing as you say you have been a fan since 84 then you can't be a teenager. I personally couldn't give less of a fuck about flames on prime. That is not a big deal to me. I haven't been a fan since 84, but I do remember it, and what pisses me off is the unrecognisable Megatron and the dire script. Both of which are legitiamate concerns. Feel free to drown me out in a hail of CAPITAL letters now.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:10 a.m. CST
Read the script and see how the leaks and the set reports and even the interview with Murphy and DeSanto corroborate everything that's in it. No character = not a movie worth seeing. I don't care if it's a Transformers movie or the latest Oscar-bait drama. These designs are one thing. But there isn't a single thing in the script that comes close to nailing the characterizations of the TFs in any incarnation. And the characterizations that are there, or lack thereof, speak to rather staid and uneventful movie. It literally will be just robots beating the hell out of each other, which is still only relatively in the third act. They could've just made Nintendo's ROB the Robot: The Movie if they really just wanted to have bots on the screen. The script is enough to make any fan of the property from '84 sad.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:20 a.m. CST
...AFTER it's finished if you're not happy about the movie's direction? I think a lot of us, myself included, want to vent our anger and frustration hoping that those in charge of production will change things. Do you think Cullen would have been cast had we NOT suggested it over the Net? Of course not - to do so is niave.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST
Oh. My. God. This toy commerical doesn't live up to the original toy commerical... how? Good Guy Robots battle Bad Guy Robots, with impressionable young minds (and disposable income) caught in between. The difference here is... what exactly? Its not as if the story was well written; it just looked cool and had a fun gimmick. Thats it. Everyone has officially lost their minds.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:30 a.m. CST
by Ricky Henderson
1)minority stereotypes, 2)the american flag, 3)humvees, 4)coke, 5)fireballs 6)oversaturated movie shots... the list goes on. The more I think about it, the more Michael Bay reminds me of some lunatic, white supremacist meth-head.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:36 a.m. CST
The capital letters were a little childish on my part - apologies. I just got sick and tired of the relentless bitching about this movie. I'm certainly not a plant Lost Prophet, if this sucks the I'll be the first to say so but I want to see it first, and I'm a long way past the teenage years. I admit I haven't seen the script, is what you've read the final shooting script? Is there anywhere I can get a copy? I want Prime and co. to be recognisable at least in terms of character. Like every Transformers fan I want this to be great and live up to all expectations.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:41 a.m. CST
by Giant Ape Balls
...He's hired Peter Cullen." And then he pissed it away with the walking abortion that is Megatron.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:45 a.m. CST
im still lookin forward to this giant killer robot movie
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:47 a.m. CST
by Ricky Henderson
Didn't I email you the script yesterday? I clearly remember sending something to someone's hotmail account. Or was that some other Red?
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:56 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
Since someone anounced that Murphy was lacing negative TB's with plants anyone that rants in that way draws my supicions. It was worse yesterday, I called 1 in 3 posters plant. Other things Michael Bay is excited about: 1) coke 2) fireworks, 3) coke, 4) Cars, 5) coke 6) cars that go BANG BANG 7) shit scripts and on....
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST
Ricky, that must be some other Red. Can you send me the script to firstname.lastname@example.org please. No probs Lost Prophet, none of us want to see the Transformers we know and love totally bastardized.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST
Check this shit out boys and girls. I was one of the AICN douchebags. I asked him why create new decepticons and drastically alter them so where it is just a name and not the character? He responded "Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan?" and other inane questions.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:06 a.m. CST
There is no way this movie can live up to expectations.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST
and props to Quint.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST
by One Voice
Does that alone make it a TF movie? I have serious doubts, only because Michael Bay has never made a movie I've liked, not once. He just misses the mark for me everytime. I highly doubt this will be the exception.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:39 a.m. CST
I liked him in Babby Boy and Annapollis. And he's a respected actor in the Black Community. So his presence will definately be an asset to this film in terms of ticket sales and diversity.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST
by Ricky Henderson
If that was snyone else, you'd assume that last statement of hers was sarcasm. But nooooo, shes being totally serious. She really belives Tyrese is a good actor. Wow.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST
by foree forehead
that set report made my cube-bound life seem interesting.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST
by Ricky Henderson
Signed, sealed, delivered...
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST
by dead youngling
I'd like the script as well. email@example.com
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST
That means we're going to get Harry's "This movie made me cream my pants" review next year. Ofcourse this movie will be total shit. The others will give it a good but not great review and Moriarty will slam the movie. But what the hell, you got to keep those wheels in the shill factory turning.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:07 a.m. CST
great story. im off to read Bay's novelization of Pearl Harbor... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wake me up when there's more images
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:10 a.m. CST
by Ricky Henderson
(his email address is in his previous posts). Sorry man, but I'd rather not get busted by Paramount. As much as I love the idea of incarceration....
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:13 a.m. CST
I really don't care that Ironhide is a black pick up instead of a red conversion van, nor do i care that Ratchet is a Hummer instead of a legit emergency vehicle. The bottom line is Megatron looks like scrap metal. Prime's flame job make him look like he is the pride and joy of a metallica roadie. Those are the two biggest icons in the franchise and they screwed them up. I don't think Megatron should be a pistol or anything, but he just looks like crap.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:20 a.m. CST
When this film bombs, he'll have all the explosions he needs. MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:22 a.m. CST
...why he's done what he's done. The only reason Quint was invited back was for damage control. And judging from how out-of-control Don Murphy is acting, one can only assume he KNOWS this film is going in the shitter. Look, it's Transformers, it'll rake in some bucks. But I don't think it'll be a blockbuster. If it makes it's production budget back I'll be very surprized. There's nothing genuine in the crap script Rogers has written. It's very milquetoast. Jesus. If this guy can get a job writing movies than ANY asshole with a typewriter can. I mean, did Don Murphy see Catwoman and say "Fuck! John Rogers is an amazingly talented writer!"? That movie was so bad it should have ended the careers of EVERYONE involved with it, including the catering crew. I'm disappointed. I think this movie could have been so much more and so much better. Cullen for Prime? Great. But Cullen's voice isn't going to save the looming shit sandwich that's going to hit theatres in 2007. Everyone involved in this project should be ashamed of themselves, especially Hasbro, Spielberg, Bay, and Murphy. However, a big thank you to Sony for the re-release of the animated Transformers: The Movie. Now THAT's a fucking Transformers movie.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:26 a.m. CST
QUNT GET SOME FUCKING BALLS! ... Basically you stood there and batted your eye lashes at mr. bay, and flirted with duhamel and bonaventura ... you should have went up to bay and said 'as god is my witness I will turn away as many people as i can from watching this abomination when it hits theatres mr. bay.. fuck you for fucking with my youth. Go make Pearl Habour 2' Josh Duhamel doesn't seem like he was that big of a fan of transformers when he was a kid. Just another actor putting on an act like he was into it. No doubt one of those kids that knew about transformers and would watch the show on freak occasions, visiting friends houses and briefly playing with the other kids toys but no real affinity for the transformers universe. What happened to actors really studying the source material, and emmersing themselves in the history of a movie project they're on? I bet he was into barbies and my little pony. Sounds like a tool. Saying that they 'modernized' the transformers? STFU... MODERNIZE??? WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Does it mean giving things a busy look via coco chanel, all flash and no substance? Why don't they just give megatron a prada bag, some tassels, and the clooney haircut while they're at it? So turning megatron into a walking abomination is modernizing it. I understand. Also notice when quint asks this fucktard what his favourite transformers is he spews the make believe ejaculation constructions from the film instead of harkening back to his own childhood for his favourite transformer. WE ARE SO SORRY TO 'BITCH' MICHEAL BAY... SO SORRY THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN A PRIVILEDGE.. NOT A RIGHT.. A FUCKING PRIVILEDGE TO CREATE AN ADAPTION OF ONE OF THE MOST BELOVED UNIVERSES FOR MANY CHILDREN GROWING UP AND YOU'VE FUCKED WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S SACRED TO IT. SO SO SO VERY SORRY TO 'BITCH'.... RIBS???? RIBS???? WHATEVER THAT'S POTATOES COMPARED TO MEGATRON GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK...
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:29 a.m. CST
I agree here. Whole-heartedly.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:32 a.m. CST
They are being totally and obstentatiously stubborn about this. Hollywood is so out of touch with mainstream audiences it's not even funny. get a clue bay... you might save this film if you cgi over the flames and just make it red and blue. ... its not too late to save this part of the film. If you do that atleast, I think the fans can forgive you for megatron and starscream... but you have to atleast alter one of these things in order to pull us back into this movie: cgi over the flames, modify megatron slightly, or fix starscream the fuck up.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:33 a.m. CST
No way this thing gets any bad reviews when it comes out. Ever wonder why straight news reporting is going down the toilet? because the reporters and those they're covering are friends, attending the same parties, their kids going to the same schools. A famous journalist I can't place at the moment (not murrow...Stone?) said a reporter would be insane to be friendly with the people they're reporting on. Same goes for entertainment reporting, but the ETing of entertainment "journalism" seems pervasive.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:34 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
It's sheer arrogance, and bloody depressing too. Everything in this is easily fixable, yet will they do it? will they fuck.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:40 a.m. CST
by Mr Nice Gaius
The image of Megan Fox running around clueless while explosions are going off KILLED ME!
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:48 a.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:48 a.m. CST
Hate to tell ya, but that REAL Transformers movie sucked Gobot ass! Killing off every likeable character all for the sole purpose of selling toys of lame replacements? That stupid film did more to ruin the franchise than help it. And don't even get me started on that shitfest of a soundtrack. Theres NO WAY Bay's flick will be any worse.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:55 a.m. CST
by Captain RawBeard
It makes me laugh when people scream "Wah! they are raping my childhood Wah! Optimus has flames WAH BLOODY WAH!". I grew up in the 80's and loved the Transformers and I can NOT wait for this film. I agree that Megatron does look a bit of a mess and the fact he turns into an ALIEN JET is totally against the whole concept of Robots in Disguise. Apart from that I like the new look Optimus Prime as well as the other Transformers. I do have the Script on my computer. I havent read it yet but I will. But no matter how bad or good this film turns out to be, I certainly am not going to Cry about my childhood being raped. Grow Up!
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:04 a.m. CST
The flames on prime suck. End of story. Notice the lack of "wah" and references to raped childhoods in this comment. Just a simple matter of fact staement. I too grew up in the 80's and i have always felt that painting flames on automobiles died around the same time as hair metal bands. Its an ugly design. If you wish to continue to suck the dicks of Bay and Murphy, be my guest. Those of us with actual taste will call terrible charachter designs for what it actually is.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST
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Sept. 1, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST
Thanks for that. Don't know if i dare read it now.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST
And I don't think he cares. I sure hope it comes back to bite him in the ass next July when I WON'T be seeing this.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST
I know where you're coming from, if you're not interested in Transformers, it doesn't really matter at all. I couldn't give two shits about how badly someone fucked up a movie if I don't have any passion for the source material. But alot of people do.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
turn up after 600 posts and then complain. Lots of people care- just because they are not 17 year old bitter cynics doesn't devalue their opinion.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST
And btw, Tommy never fucked a underage girl. :P
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST
A yellow Hummer/Ambulance? Huh?
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST
Sure, the old Transformers movie seemed cool when you were 12. Cussing! Death! ADD! High volume! Then you grow up and realize the whole thing was just a way to sell a more shoddily made, less interesting looking sci-fi themed series of new Transformers toys. And you couldn't understand anything Orson "Mumbly Joe" Wells said.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:48 a.m. CST
until the last 10-15 minutes of the film. It took you THAT LONG to realize there "isn't a lot of hope"?
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:54 a.m. CST
I know they dont want to alienate the audience with endless transformer dialogue, and are afraid that if they have the transformers talking too much it might seem cheesy but only have them exchanging meaningless dialogue near the end of the film seems pointless. BUT... this is not the problem I have with the film. I agree that having the transformers talking as much as they did in the cartoons would feel hammed in a live action film. BUT!!! I DONT AGREE WITH FLAMES, MEGATRON'S DESIGN, AND STARSCREAMS DESIGN... and the make believe transformers, and the fucked up vehicles (BAY LISTEN UP... NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF TRUCK YOU MAKE OPTIMUS... no one gives a shit, as long as it's a transport truck... WHAT WE CARE ABOUT IS CHANGING THE WHOLE IDEA OF A VEHICLE LIKE MAKING MEGATRON AN ALIEN JET, AND BUMBLEBEE NOT A BUG... fuck the idiots who are bitching about the type of truck optimus is
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:58 a.m. CST
although a bug would have been better s till than a camaro.
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:01 a.m. CST
by One Voice
firstname.lastname@example.org I'll be eternally grateful! Thanks!
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:01 a.m. CST
"Gooooooo SAMmmmmm" will probably feel like the Darth Vader moment in Episode 3 revenge of the sith where Vader yells "NOoooooooooooooooooooooooo" Wait for this moment to hear the audience groan in unison.
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:04 a.m. CST
MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:14 a.m. CST
"Fuck the steam - let's MOVE!" That is fucking hilarious. His explanation as to why Optimus Prime now has flames is totally acceptable (as I expected). People like to have something to bitch about and no amount of reasoning or well-intended rationalization will stop them from their bitching when they're rolling with it. I for one think that it won
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST
by One Voice
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:25 a.m. CST
by A G
Anyone willing to host it on a proper host and not one of these stupid rapidshares ?
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:25 a.m. CST
by AGE IIX
fucking movie! And I agree with everbody giving Harry and co shit about saying nothing about the movie! How can you say that you don't have any true love for Transfomers and thus don't have a reason to get worked up about it and cover it. Well why have a movie site than? 7 out of 10 movies are new ideas, and most of those get articles written about it even script reviews. The Transformers script is out and nobody is reviewing it!? WHY IS THAT? Why rip X3 to shreds (witch it deserved by the way) but say nothing about this ASTROTRAINWRECK in the making? I Love this site but find it's going down the tube. AICN is loosing it's Integrity, and its all to do with these SET REPORTS were harry and co become life long friends with the makers (come on KING KONG was a piece of fucking shit, but nobody will write that)
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST
by Captain RawBeard
Ok so you dont like flames and think everything is dated. well guess what, the versions of the transformers you know and love ARE dated. You said "I too grew up in the 80's" but I dont think you did grow up otherwise you wouldnt be making such childish remarks such as "If you wish to continue to suck the dicks of Bay and Murphy, be my guest" just because I was making a point, which obviously touched a nerve with you. I'm sorry you cant grow up and accept change.
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:55 a.m. CST
let us not forget godzilla, star wars, lady in the water, the facaulty, armageddon... and a shit load of others harry's been given reach arounds to post glorious reviews on. Moriarty is probably the most honest out of all of them, but I'm beginning to notice more and more that he's going to the dark side too.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:08 p.m. CST
by One Voice
It's so boring and shit. I can't believe some of the dialogue in this draft! Bumblebee acting like The Love Bug, and lame flashbacks like something out of Dodgeball as geeky kids remembers his failed attempts to join the football team! Why is this shit in this script!?! And this is what brought all this talent to the project. This needs a MAJOR rewrite. Truly horrendous so far.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST
Holy fuck! Is that really the script?! "More than meets the eye!" (wink wink). Dear Christ. Once again the U.S. military inexplicably has the ability to defeat insanely advanced alien technology simply by hitting them with "lotsa missiles". My god. I would have preferred Aliens vs Predator 2. At least that had a Predalien mutant. I feel like reading that shaved about twenty points off my IQ. This movie is FUCKED!
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST
I think they should add a gay Transformer, call it FagWagon. A pink VW with a little sugar in its tank. Box office gold, trust me.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST
I'm sorry... but who the fuck asks "what year did they come out?" so they can figure out how old they were so they can answer the question "did you grow up with these things or not?" Not artfully dodged at all. This man was buying time so he could remember what they told him to say... seriously. Either you're a fan or not. Either you grew up with them or you didn't. Why lie about it? And so transparently? When asked which was his favorite transformer, "I haven't seen any of the decepticons yet, in robot form..." erm, douchebag? He meant growing up. wtf?
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST
by One Voice
Holy shit, I started reading with a mouthful of coffee. I now have it all over my screen. You should be writing these movies. Classic.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:41 p.m. CST
by One Voice
in the script and "fuse their bodies together". Quiet creepy in a way.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST
"The art is what blows me away the most on this. I've seen pictures of all of them, I've seen some CGI of what they're going to do. It's just so insane." Insane is fucking right. I wish Bay would run a t-bone steak on his balls and let his over-compensation "monster dogs" go to town.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:43 p.m. CST
"They might not trust him or what he's doing, but nobody is out there hoping Bay messes this movie up." --- it's not a question of hoping, it's a question of knowing, for sur,e that he will fuck it up, like he always do. And i guess Quint didn't had the heart and guts to tell Bay that everybody is laughing at the movie's teaser trailers! quint's subservience to Michael Bay is disturbing!
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST
by One Voice
vibe to it. Shame it's let down by some atricious dialogue and attempts at humour.
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:53 p.m. CST
and when it transforms there's chains around its neck. They could call it Master T, and have him rap and bust rhymes. Have an old beat up pickup truck transform into a hillbilly transformer with a metal pitchfork that shoots lasers and call him Mecha-Cletus. you could have the pope mobile transform into a holier than thou autobot with a phaser that shoots holy water at decepticons and name it Popatron. He could quote excerpts from the bible before he blasts away other transformers. You could have a honda, mitsubishi, Nissan or Toyota transformer named Yoshi and the hook is that it has trouble transforming, its gun is very small, and it crashes into a lot of things. Hhehehe
Sept. 1, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST
That's the Porsche Cayenne, Porsche's "ME TOO!" entry into the already crowded field of POS SUVs.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST
You now have permission to suck the corn from my steaming shit.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST
... i rather shit in your and your beloved talentless hack shit idol heads!
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST
by Hairy Nutsack
I'm trying googamooga, but I can't reach it, must have been packed in there too tightly by getting a double insertion from Bay and Murphy last night. Try some prunes and/or Ex-Lax, loosen you right up.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:41 p.m. CST
michael bay = Uwe Boll's daughter
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:45 p.m. CST
Surely there's a better (and far less gay-redneck) way to "define Prime's mid-section when he's a robot."
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:50 p.m. CST
which can be easily done right now....... I can understand bay saying 20 years ago 'its too late for us to get rid of the flames, we've already started filming with them on optimus...' but you cant get away with that shit today. We have CGI, and high tech special effects... just use your computers to paint over the flames for fuck sakes, or make them less flamey.
Sept. 1, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST
exactly what I thought when I read the 'chat'
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:02 p.m. CST
"I wish Bay would run a t-bone steak on his balls and let his over-compensation "monster dogs" go to town." About the funniest thing I've read all day.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST
"define Prime's mid-section when he's a robot." how funny then that adding the flames just makes all of his parts look even more busy and even more of a mess of a design.
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST
we can have a whole bunch of little Michael Duhamels running around cross eyed, drooling all over themselves, humping dogs, sniffing paint and setting things on fire. If I were bay having duhamel audition I would ask him what he knew about transformers and if he answered like that I would fucking yell at him to get the fuck out of my face before my brain explodes. How does someone who knows shit about transformers even get a chance to audition for a transformers film or doesn't even bother to do any reading up on what transformers is all about? atleast fucking elijah wood, and the rest of the Lord of the Rings cast did their fucking homework. FOR FUCK SAKES CHRISTOPHER LEE was practically an expert on LOTR....
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:08 p.m. CST
Okay never posted before, but I felt like putting my two cents in on this one. First off let me say I was a transformers nut as a child considering I was in early childhood when they were in their hayday. Okay now that I've established my stats as a fan let me ask you all a question. Did you like the film Serenity? Yes? Do you know why? Cause you were a fan of the original "Firefly" series. Cause Joss Whedon made that film for the fans and no one else. Know why it didn't do so hot at the box office? Simple fans (i.e. fanboys) do not make up the vast majority of America or the international box office. Whatever your thoughts are on Bay the script and design concepts there is one fact that matters above all else to those who are working on blockbusters, (and that is what this is, not a fan epic)
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST
by One Voice
trying to get Sam to hurry and find the glasses with the lifeforce code embedded on them. That was really, really good. That's more like it. They should just lose the whole Lennox character. Pointless, and everytime we cut to his story it's so dull, with clich
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST
on box office gains... Serenity didn't fail at the box office because it was made for the fans, it failed because it was a shitty movie. Same goes for Supes returns, it didn't fail because it was made for the donner fans it failed because it fucking sucked. Actually it is the reverse, it was because of the fanboys that Serenity even made any money at all... fuck I was a fan of firefly (and i did like serenity but only but i can see why it wasn't recieved very well) and dragged a friend to that film who wasn't a fan. IT IS THE FANBOYS that drag their friends to these kinds of films, spread its awesomeness by word of mouth, and praise the film to their co-workers, and friends. Fanboys give a lot of fucking weight to how well a film will do at the box office. Plus what hollywood doesn't realize is that they are so fucking easy to please... look at the shit we're asking for: flames, fix megatron a little, fix starscream a little,.......these are fucking potatoes, and hollywood doesn't see by fucking adhering to these small little requests that it could potentially make the different between a large box office sucess and absolute failure..... I know for myself X1 wasn't that good, but because i felt singer got the characters right (especially wolverine) i praised that shit to high heavens to most of my friends. Same goes for LOTR, because a large number of people read the books they dragged everyone else to the films...... FANBOYS PULL WEIGHT
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST
by One Voice
That statement is utter bollocks!
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST
its been fun digging up the old Transformers crapola, the original movie is a ton of fun, now im gonna see season 1. Megatron's design for the new movie sucks... thanks!
Sept. 1, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST
THAT's where you will win or lose the fans despite people who can't get over the flames. Give us what we want and we'll give you what you want.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST
You weren't making a point, you were simply making it clear that for whatever deluded reason, you consider yourself surprior to those who wish to express their opinions that the flames on Optimus look terrible, and that some of the other questionable design choices were horribly flawed. Apparently anybody who thinks those designs suck (thats the vast majority of us) needs to "grow up". You seem to be of the opinion that blind acceptance of crappy designs, approved by clueless studio execs, constitutes maturity. I stand by my original statment. Proceed with the cock sucking of Bay and Murphy.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:16 p.m. CST
It seems to me that Bay is capturing the Essence on the series, and hopefully of the Characters. Maybe i'm more openminded to changes, afterall look at flicks like X-men and Spider-man. Neither were 100% true to the source material...In X-men's case they didn't even use the Same Costumes! Not even REMOTELY close...Yet, it's considered by many to be a great comic film, X2 especially. (Yeah I didn't realize Lady Deathstrike left the Reavers and was actually created by the Weapon X program...NOT!)<b> People get too bogged down in the details.<b> Let Bay do his freaking work. It's gonna rock.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST
How many times did i fuck you over in the Megatron thread? And you come back for more you paramount lackey.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST
someone tell that fat fuck to suck a big cock.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST
because transformers is FAR more well known than firefly was. and there are alot of nostalgic fans who will see this movie, firefly is new compared to a cartoon series that many many people grew up with, and who know for years that a live action movie was impossible. and they will go see it because seeing a live action transformers movie is something out of a dream. too bad when they get there, they will go 'what the fuck?'
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST
...make sense now. First off, the Megatron look that bay has going on is starting to make sense. He was captured in his alien form frozen in ice, not having a chance to copy a look of something from earth, therefore we get the "unoriginal" look. Leave it to the sequel to give you a more G1 friendly Megatron. Second, the dialogue from the "script" is a bit hokey, but I am hoping the final shooting script smoothes that out. The arrival of the autobots and the forms they take are actually interesting, and I hope they transfer well from the page to the screen. I admit, the "script" wasn't superfantastic, but it wasn't "heroes in a halfshell" horrible though either.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:48 p.m. CST
I believe kingfisherx was talking about Mr. Murphy when he said "grow up," not fanboys complaining about flames.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:48 p.m. CST
is not an apples to apples comparrison. The X-men charachters were still recognizable as being Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm etc. You can't say the same for many of the transformers designs. Most people would forgive updating ironhide or jazz etc. But to overly tweak the iconic figures of the franchise is crazy. Optimus Prime is the respected leader of the autobots. There should NOT be any flames in his paint scheme. He is not a flashy all style no substance kind of charachter. If anybody had looked at a photo of the new megatron they would have had no clue what they were looking at unless it was labeled. Spider-man was still Spider-man even with organic web shooters. The X-men were still the X-men even with black leather costumes replacing the blue and yellow spandex, a move that made logical sense. There is no logic in the design changes on the transformer charachter re-designs.
Sept. 1, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST
I was referring to a post by Captain Rawbeard, well actually a couple of posts specifically at 09:55:14 AM CST (i responded at 10:04:26 AM CST) and he responded at 11:28:54 AM CST. Sorry for the confusion
Sept. 1, 2006, 4 p.m. CST
I agree that one can not neccesarily obtain box office success simply by pandering to the fanboy audience. That being said, i for the life of me can not figure out how some of the changes made by Bay and Murphy will contribute to a larger box office take. Adding Flames to Prime irritated just about the entire G1 fanbase. Do you think the average teenager who did not grow up with transformers will be MORE likely to see the movie because the main charachter has flames painted on? Regarding megatron, i agree that changes had to be made, but i just think the final design is just plain ugly, the same for the design i saw of Starscream. I can't even begin to understand who thought it would be a good idea for bumblebee to "speak" using satellite radio. I was really excited for this movie, even with the assumption that it would most likely deviate somewhat from the source material. I was fine with that. But i am more and more disapointed with each leaked detail and production design. I don't think they should have to cater solely to the audience of "fans" but i also don't think changes should be made just for the sake of making changes. A balance could have been struck, and this could have been the biggest movie of the year if done correctly, but i just have lost the faith. I will probably end up seeing it in the theaters in spite of my furstration, but my enthusiasm has waned significantly and should it continue to do so, i'll wait for the DVD on netflix.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST
There's a lot of us who don't like the direction this movie is being handled. Let's vote on it in the only way that matters... with our wallets. Get a bootleg copy and watch it first. If you know anyone interested in seeing the movie... give them a copy of the bootleg. Let's NOT spend any more of our money on movies that are NOT what we want to see. We shouldn't pay to see a TINO movie. And if I'm wrong, and it ends up being cool (and I'd like to believe that), *then* go spend money on it - see it in the theater and buy the DVD. Do not obey Don Murphy, Michael Bay, Dreamworks, or anyone else in Hollywood... we, as individuals, control the money, and that is the means by which we control Hollywood.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST
thanks quint, brilliant set report, you've lifted my spirits a bit :)
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:06 p.m. CST
is the moment we see Optimus Prime in his first reveal to the audience without any distractions (IE FLAMES) I want that that feeling you got at the end of The Iron Giant when you hear Hogarth's voice in the background 'you are who you choose to be' and The Iron Giant says 'Superman'... or the feeling you get just by seeing superman himself fly gloriously high above Metropolis in one fleeting shot without any distractions. The shivers we all get when we see our heroes put to life on the big screen. The fuzzy feeling in our heads, and a rush of awe that I cannot even begin to relate. I'm just so afraid im going to be distracted by these god damn redneck flames to get that feeling. I have too many memories sitting in front of the tv to watch our hero optimus the way he was, and flying my action figure through the air with my hand or playing imaginary transformers with my friends. Its just like when we all used to tie a towel around our neck and fly around our home pretending we were superman. GOD DAMN FLAMES
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
Has that dude ever been in a single good movie? Just one?
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST
So I tracked down the script and gave it a good read. Wow! I don't know what I just read but it sure wasn't a Transformers movie. I officially don't care about this movie now. Whatever, they can screw it up however they please as far as I'm concerned.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:42 p.m. CST
And who the deuce is this Tyrese chap everyone's talking about?
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:51 p.m. CST
Atomica posted: "It seems to me that Bay is capturing the Essence on the series, and hopefully of the Characters. Maybe i'm more openminded to changes, afterall look at flicks like X-men and Spider-man. Neither were 100% true to the source material...In X-men's case they didn't even use the Same Costumes! Not even REMOTELY close...Yet, it's considered by many to be a great comic film, X2 especially." <<< That isn't even close to what's happening here, though. True, your examples weren't 100% faithful, but they were at least 90% faithful. This film Bay is making is about 15% faithful. He got some names right. He got the concept of transforming robots from another planet down. He got the factions right. THAT'S ABOUT IT.
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST
How did I miss this? Transformers that are run by little figures of Han and Chewy that look like giant robotic Han and Chewy that transform and join to become the Millenium Falcon?!? How long has this been out?!?
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:53 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST
can anybody explain why tyrese is wearing a red beret? i'm not really familiar with army insignias etc, but as far as i recall they don't have red in the us army, or maybe i'm just plain wrong. although i do know that they use red berets in the british army...
Sept. 1, 2006, 4:58 p.m. CST
they should've just used mos def instead...and did anybody notice that tad hamilton is totally bullshitting...."i like bumblebee coz he's a camaro, i drive a camaro on las vegas"...its just like saying "i like dubya coz he's from texas, i'm from texas too"...waittaminute...everybody DOES say that...gotta find a better analogy then :)
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST
from the description of Megan Fox "acting". That's funny shit, right there. Well, funny and sad.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST
secret Government agency to handle transformers
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST
so it is pretty pointless to keep bitching about it. Spielberg and Bay came off like some genuine Transformers fans at the start of all this but they have done none of the characters justice and this flick will be another 2 1/2 hour headache like every other Michael Bay turd.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST
going to start a TF2007 Support Group on myspace?
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:23 p.m. CST
WTF?? Megatron and Optimus are long lost brothers? Let me quite a Mr. Rob Courdry from the Daily Show. "I mean, Cooooommme ON!" And why do none of the transformers have a chance in the movie to develop, I don't know... CHARACTER? And they just scan whatever they want, and transform? So they're basically T-100, if we're suppsoed to believe they are that adaptable and advanced, why can't we believe they could change size? I could go on and on but I really don't care anymore... Michael Bay should never be allowed to make another movie as long as he lives, though I've been saying that since ID4.
Sept. 1, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST
WTF?? Megatron and Optimus are long lost brothers? Let me quote a Mr. Rob Courdry from the Daily Show. "I mean, Cooooommme ON!" And why do none of the transformers have a chance in the movie to develop, I don't know... CHARACTER? And they just scan whatever they want, and transform into it? So they're basically T-1000, if we're suppsoed to believe they are that adaptable and advanced, why can't we believe they could change size? I could go on and on but I really don't care anymore... Michael Bay should never be allowed to make another movie as long as he lives, though I've been saying that since ID4.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:17 p.m. CST
It will just never work. Even the best director in the world could not make it work. Robots transforming into something else is only a small part of the Transformers.
Sept. 1, 2006, 6:46 p.m. CST
No, they were NOT. They were Singer-Men. Everything about all but 1.5 characters was re-engineered from the ground up. It was as faithful to the source material as was the Hulk TV series. Does this topic truly need another go-round?
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST
Hmm, I don't know, let me count the condoms... Though does it really count as fucking if you were the fuck-ee? Seriously man, leave me the hell alone. You don't like the movie you haven't even seen yet (which is fucking STUPID in my opionion), whatever. I'm looking forward to it, so kiss my pasty, white ass.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:14 p.m. CST
Granted, it may not be the wet dream, blocky, crappy looking robots the G1 nerds were hoping for, but its being made nonetheless.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST
We dont care about the designs as much as the characters please get it right we've read the F'n script and they got the script all wrong. Jazz is a piece of shit car with no lines. In the cartoon Jazz was flashy love earth culture and could Break dance with the best of them, not to mention he had tons of character, and was a porche, Iron does not value human life and has about 2 lines, this movie is nothing more than Giant fucking robots blowing shit up Bay style I as a TF fan want alot more from a TF movie Like at least getting the Characters right and paying a little respect to the franchise you have a nerve to do a movie about.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:32 p.m. CST
And you're complaining about what BAY is doing? Sigh...
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST
And you're complaining about what BAY is doing? Sigh...
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:43 p.m. CST
Each of the autobots announced had a personalty that was evident instead of seeing those personalities we get those giant robots just beating the hell out of one another as pretentious as superman was it was more then just him beating up Doomsday for 2 1/2 hours which is more then i can say about TF if that all you want be gues But I want to entertained By TF that match the TF i grew up with I want to see Jazz love earth culture I want to see cranky Ironhide I want to see Starscream Plot to overthough megatron I want to see prime be valiant and paternal get these things right and i dont care if they look like stick figures that all turn into Ford escorts. The problem is all the autobots turn into GM cars and whole thing reads like Hearbie, meets Christine, Meets ID4, meets, E.T. yes i am complaining about what the Fuck Bay is doing.
Sept. 1, 2006, 7:59 p.m. CST
This movie isn't being made for you, the FAN, its being made for the teeming masses who, at best, have a fleeting knowledge of the Transformers. They want human characters, they want a human story, they want big ass robots fighting each other and shit blowing up. Looks to me like they're getting what they want, and I'm STILL interested.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:04 p.m. CST
did the Teaming masses give a fuck about the character of Spiderman why was his Chracter and Overall appeareance spot on but TF's cnat get the the same RESPECT. how come Spiderman gets a movie for its fans and the Teeming masses but TF's cant get the same.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:08 p.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:10 p.m. CST
So it was less of a risk to stay true to the source material. What you have in this case is that a lot of the public may be familiar with the name, and that they can change into stuff, but not much beyond that. At the end of the day, its all about money, the studio knows that making a 100% authentic to the G1 material story would not bring in the summer blockbuster money.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:13 p.m. CST
by Optimus Murphy
...a Metal Gear movie, Snake would have frosted tips instead of a lethal-weapon Gibsonian Mullet.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:14 p.m. CST
I think the point of a lot of us who want the "film"-makers to stick to the characterizations we know are trying to make is that for whatever commercial, capitalistic reasons the Transformers were originally developed, they ended up as strong characters who have stood the test of time. True, you spit out any old movie that has explosions and special effects and the public will go see it and give it a strong opening weekend. But the big-budget event movies that become classics and stand the test of time (LoTR, Spider-Man 2, X-Men 2) stay true to the characters that are proven, they don't reinvent the wheel just because it's "good enough to entertain," as you seem to be implying. You're welcome to be excited by and take whatever they give you in this movie, but why shouldn't people want it to be as good as it's potential warrants?
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:49 p.m. CST
So far a few of you have responded. Those of you who have skills and experience modeling, rigging, and animating in Maya. Those of you who have skills in film making and storytelling. Those of you who are FANS of this property. We have until June of 2007. We can make a better film, even if it's a short, than this group of incompetant liars. So, I say we do. I swore I would never do this, but e-mail me. email@example.com, I have produced two half hour live action films and two fifteen minute documentaries. I have also assisted on crew for many of these films. I have directed three animated short and I am currently co-directing a half hour short, and a two minute short. I have experience in many programs including Maya, and Final Cut. I can work cross platform and I enjoy what I do. If you want a REAL transformers film contact me and we will get started. Even if this is considered a "Fan film" it's still going to be better than what we will get in July 2007 from this group of assclowns. So again if you are interested in working on models, rigging, texturing, or animation, then contact me. I am at firstname.lastname@example.org. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing the poor treatment we are getting and I know we can do better.
Sept. 1, 2006, 8:59 p.m. CST
Hey NON as one of those who responded just tell me to e-mail you but where do you hail from Im in a philadelphia sub-burb and I will do anything I can to help whether it's camera work And I've alway wanted to act incase you wanted some Live action work just let me know.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:08 p.m. CST
When your movie doesn't match my wet dream memories from 1982, will I be allowed to bitch about it here?
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST
They listened to the fanboys about SOAP, and it bombed miserably. If they had kept it PG-13 it would've made more--probably a lot more--money. They listened to the fanboys and made Serenity, and it also bombed. Sure, these movies will break even on DVD, but production companies aren't looking just to break even. Which property this summer most pissed off the fanboys? X3. And they're rolling in it. WE DON'T MATTER.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:34 p.m. CST
You did say two, right? And each of them runs a FULL fifteen minutes? Gosh.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST
Why wouldn't material from the G1 universe do well at the box office? What is superior about the character's and storyline from this script, as compared to the character's a storyline from the original Transformers? What about the designs of the new Transformer movie will draw more people in to the theatre than sticking a tad more closely to their original art? If the robots are given more of their orginal personality, and the struggle revolves around them, why would that hurt box office numbers? Why do you think people want a human drama more than one concerning evolved robots? I just want to know what studies you are referring to that gives merit to any of your statements.
Sept. 1, 2006, 9:41 p.m. CST
it was more like the raving lunatics on the internet who saw the early teaser trailer and thought hey lets fuck around with sam's pulp fiction character and pretend the SOAP character says a lot of f bombs..... not really comparable. As for X3, god knows how that fuckin made money. I think it had to do with the fact it was one of hte first summer flicks, and people were itching to hit the theatres. If Supes had come out before X3, I bet the box office gains would have been reversed.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST
I'm not referring to any studies, just common sense. A movie marketed as an action film, that just HAPPENS to contain transforming robots will do better than a movie marketed as a "robot" film, because the vast majority of unfamiliar movie goers will look at that and think, "Forget it, its just some nerd movie." Serenity is a perfect example. Personally, I loved that movie, but then I also loved the series. Problem was, it was a "nerdy" sci-fi movie whose back story not a lot of people were familiar with. How many people do you know who are VERY familiar with the Transformers storyline? And how many of those people are male, and in their late 20's, early 30's? Exactly. IMO, I'm just happy to get a transformers movie, PERIOD, and if the action and effects are killer, then I can forgive a somewhat weak story. Bottom line, as I've said before, is NO ONE knows how this movie will be, NO ONE has seen any footage. I choose to be optimistic about that, but I see I am in the minority.
Sept. 1, 2006, 10:29 p.m. CST
Do you think the hollywood execs can distinguish between the SOAP crowd and the Transformers crowd? I sure don't. What's worse is that the leadup to SOAP included all these 'the studio made changes based on fan input' articles ... and TPTB read those articles, and saw the results.
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST
by Lord Soth
I think they can make a shitload of money if Megatron transforms into a nice ribbed dildo and they have a little "vino bianco" scene with that hot Megan Fox, 'cause judging from quint's description of her her acting, that's all the action she's good for...sex always sells...
Sept. 1, 2006, 11:45 p.m. CST
script as that leaked on the internet. Maybe they've changed the dialogue, but the plot is still the same. It's also clear that none of the principals or the director know anything about Transformers. I've got nothing against the actors, btw.
Sept. 2, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST
man you are stupid. you say a film marketed as a robot movie as opposed to a human centric movie with transformers will make more money. well if that were true it would be called 'HUMANS WITH TRANSFORMERS' not 'TRANSFORMERS'. The title along says it is supposedly about Transformers. The majority of the people haven't read the script, so how could they possibly know that it is more human centric or not. Owned again.
Sept. 2, 2006, 12:30 a.m. CST
you can't distinguish between crowds? SOAP was a fad and an internet joke. Transformers has a wide fanbase that goes over 2 decades. there is a difference. if the listening to the fanboys thing didn't work, then batman begins also wouldn't be a success.
Sept. 2, 2006, 12:51 a.m. CST
changes have been made to the script) along the lines of the "where are the robots?" variety. They're only really focused on in the last 2/3rds of the film, and their backstory and characterization are nonexistent. There is no reason to care about the robots in this movie or the stakes involving the Energon cube whatsoever.
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:26 a.m. CST
It's funny how, when Prime's design was first released, everyone hated it. But since the release of the horrific Megatron design, people have been trying to warm up to Prime, simply cause he looks so much better by comparison. But face it, they both SUCK. Megatron simply sucks so bad he makes Prime look somewhat acceptable.
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:42 a.m. CST
(From the TF script) RATCHET SUBTITLE: Prime...if we face Megatron, can you bring yourself to destroy your own brother?---I take it back, this is most awful script ever written. Someone please give John Rogers a prize! It's WORSE than Catwoman.
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:43 a.m. CST
Where the fuck is any mention of the Ark in this movie? Boo/hiss!
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:52 a.m. CST
Sept. 2, 2006, 2 a.m. CST
my favorite part " Brothers; Twin sons united under the dynasty of the primes"
Sept. 2, 2006, 3:35 a.m. CST
I am a Transformers fan and I have been since I was 6 years old. There are a lot of things that I would've done differently in this movie, but the simple fact that we're even getting a movie at all is enough for me. I said it before and I'll say it again, I saw Masters of the Universe and that's by FAR the worse movie based on a cartoon ever. Just like someone mentioned above, the fanboys on this and many other boards bitched and bitched about X3 and you know what? It's grossed over $440 million and I was glad to contribute to it because of people like Harry and other AICNers that worship Singer. Transformers won't be any different from X3 in that respect. I was going to see the movie anyway because I was a fan, but now I'll prolly see it 4 or 5 times just to spite some of you bitter old men. Flame on, but I'm done with this thread anyway.
Sept. 2, 2006, 3:49 a.m. CST
eating shit flavored icecream some people like eating Icecream flavored shit, no matter how many times you tell them there eating shit.
Sept. 2, 2006, 5:24 a.m. CST
... come on guys, nobody is going to see this because he is expecting a good story or character developpment. They go there to see some insane action. Fuck the flames, I think Optimus looks badass. It went a little into a "pimp my Robot" direction with the Autobots and they really messed up the Decepticon designs. Making them look way too organic instead of robotic, to make them look more evil. That's retarded, but if the movie bombs, it won't be because of the fucking Megatron design, or because they didn't got the robots personalities right, it'll be, that the majority of people isn't interested in a live action movie, with giant robots transforming into shit. Get it! No one gives a fish fart! Transformers is and always was nothing but a toy commercial, and you little kidies just don't grow up!
Sept. 2, 2006, 5:59 a.m. CST
Sept. 2, 2006, 6:13 a.m. CST
by Bubba Gillman
I really hope there are no windmills in this movie. Enough with those windmills, Bay.
Sept. 2, 2006, 6:15 a.m. CST
Randal Graves: The Transformers are a curse from the beast we call The Desolate One.
Sept. 2, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST
by One Voice
effin brilliant!! Despite the awful jokes in the script, the bad dialogue and pointless set of characters, the final battle works. Loved that, and the scene at Sam's house when they are looking for the (stupid) mcguffin of the glasses.
Sept. 2, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST
by Elmore Rigby
...is the new 'Too Soon'.
Sept. 2, 2006, 9:38 a.m. CST
To say that the Characters were recognizable is like saying that Orko was recognizable in the Masters of the UNiverse Movie...Oh wait, HE WASN'T THERE. Just like many of the essential core X-Men weren't in the 1st Flick! Unrecognizable? In the Comics, they HAD costumes. Badass ones at that. And Singer made a creative decision to not include them to make the tale more set in Reality...THE SAME THING BAY HAS DONE with TRANSFORMERS!!! Wolverine is a badass in a Yellow and Black (Sometimes brown) like Devil Suit! Cyclops has a futuristic Boyscout uniform. Iceman goes...ICE. WE won't even get into the fact that as an origin story for how Wolvy joined the X-men, that the continuity was bent over and assraped like it didn't matter! Where was Thunderbird? NIghtcrawler? Anything that resembled Giant Sized X-men number 1? The Parallels regarding the changes between the Franchises is STARTLINGLY Prevalent. Why was X-men accepted? The Spirit of the Characters was left intact. People are ONLY giving this Film a Hard time for ONe Reason....Michael Bay. GIVE THE GUY A FUCKING BREAK, STOP BREAKING HIS FUCKING BALLS AND LET HIM DO HIS WORK. The Spirit of the Characters should be left intact...and With Cullen ALONE, he's secured that with Prime.
Sept. 2, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST
Yes. That was great, too. Thanks for the reminder, Phategod1.---Fuck. Couldn't they (Bay, Rogers, Spielberg, Murphy) have simply watched the first 10 Eps of Transformers Season 1, TF: The Movie, and Season 2 of Beast Wars and then sat down to write a good origin story? Key points? Two warring factions on Cybertron. Energy crisis. Group of heroic Autobots go to look for resources. Group of Decepticons follow. Autobots find planet rich in natural resources. Decepticons attack and board Autobot ship. Fight. Both ships (The Ark and the Nemesis) crash on prehistoric Earth. Autobots and Decepticons lay in stasis lock for 4 million years until an earthquake/erosion triggers the Ark's computer (Teletran 1), which sends out a probe to scan the environment. Scans Earth vehicles. First bot to be regenerated is a Decepticon. Etc etc etc. Instead of the Energon Cube (WTF?), perhaps the Matrix of Leadership could have been "lost". Or something more sinister? I always liked the concept of Protoform X from Beast Wars. Perhaps X could be a rather gnarly Decepticon. Fuck. Couldn't they have used Vector Sigma or even the KEY to Vector Sigma instead of the (GAY) Energon Cube? If it were me producing this I would have enlisted Simon Furman to pen the script. Get a clue, Bay and Co!
Sept. 2, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
It's not just that Prime doesn't quite feel like Prime or that Megatron looks like shit. It's not just the fact that everyone's trying to find the (shudder) Mythical Energon Cube. It's not just that the script stinks and complete re-writes the Transformers universe. It's ALL of it. It's not like they're giving us this kick-ass story/script with so-so designs. Or kick-ass, accurate designs with a so-so script. They're giving us so-so EVERYTHING. Everything in this movie is a serious departure from what Transformers IS. It's not waht fans wanted (even the ones who are saying they're OK with the changes so far). Given a choice between Bay's Prime and the original Prime, what do you think a fan would choose? Riiiiiight. I thought so.
Sept. 2, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
Ah, and once again, the sad little ones without clever cognition in their wee lil heads quote Kevin Smith dialogue as if it's new and relevant.
Sept. 2, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST
That scene is actually one of the biggest problems, in my opinion. Never mind the lame set-up and the oh-so-cliche parents looking the other way because their boy finally has a girl in his room. The simple fact that a bunch of robots who can transform to disguise themselves "hide" merely by hugging the side of the house clearly shows how misunderstood the property is in the script.
Sept. 2, 2006, 10:41 a.m. CST
by Little Beavis
just sayin...tee hee
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST
Trust me when I tell you the spirit of the characters has not been kept intact. There is nothing resembling the characters in this film. And I'm not talking about the designs.
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:38 a.m. CST
Didn't they say at one point G1 was going to be the basis for this? Why are they screwing it up on so many levels? Bumblebee as a Camaro, Prime with flames, Megatron with vagina mouth, Starscream the monkeychicken, Jazz smaller than Bumblebee, Megatron and Optimus are related, cliche human love story.....THATS TOO MUCH FOOLISHNESS! How can people defend all that shit? I'm sure all of us could handle one or two of the above things, but ALL AT THE SAME TIME? Again, it's simply too much to withstand. Why couldn't they have made it SOMEWHAT like G1...which started it all? Make Bumblebee the little guy, Prime as a red truck, Megs and Starscream fighting for power, etc..why couldnt they have been SOMEWHAT respectful of a beloved franchise?
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST
Wasn't X2 > X3? When did human beings start being Brett Ratner fans? (Probably the same human beings supporting Michael Bay Transformers)
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:55 a.m. CST
Boyz and girlz, don't bother no more about those idiotic designs. With a story THIS weak, dialogue so blatant, appalling and childish, this project was doomed already from the start. GGOOO SSAAMMM! (shivers)
Sept. 2, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST
by AGE IIX
Sept. 2, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST
by AGE IIX
But in robot form he looks kind of thin, the gun looks to big for him. Transformers should have been a movie thru their eyes! What's all this shit about spikes grandfathers glasses?
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:22 p.m. CST
spoiling a movie for yourself by reading the script. But with the bad early buzz and the designs, I have to say, in this case, read the script for free and save yourself $10. What a bargain.
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:15 p.m. CST
What the fuck!?
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:15 p.m. CST
What the fuck!?
Sept. 3, 2006, 12:03 p.m. CST
Oh yeah, G.I.JOE WAS BETTER!!! :P
Sept. 3, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST
Sept. 3, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST
three years of war and not one single fatality funny how with ll the shooting no one could hit crap till they came out with the B.A.T.S. then all the joes aimed drasticly imroved what a load of bull too many characters to very few had any depth but Destro was the man.
Sept. 3, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST
Apart from a great final battle, and one other good scene, the rest is truly awful. Terrible attempts at comedy, and trite predicable dialogue and action. It's shameful.
Sept. 3, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST
It was a f'n kid's show. There's a big difference in killing off a robot and killing off a human being. Parent's groups would go nuts. Sure they did just that when the animated flick hit and Optimus and others were axed. But since that was a tad more mainstream than the series, and since having a theater full of kids crying in unison, is it really no wonder? G.I.Joe had better designs, wasn't as high on the cheese factor as Transformers (although it was up there), and had waaay cooler enemies. Cobra Commander? Destro? The Baroness? Tomax and Xamot? Zar(Ozzy)tan? Stormshadow? And another thing that property had going for it, since the toys were drastically cheaper than the Transformers, the poor kids could get in on the action without getting punished with either some cheap knockoffs such as GOBOTS, or those teeny tiny Tranny's that were about as detailed as Happy Meal toy. Well, one of the old Happy HMeal toys. The news ones are kinda nifty.
Sept. 3, 2006, 12:54 p.m. CST
Oh no, AICN really IS bought, isn't it. The Revenge Of Don Murphy!
Sept. 3, 2006, 1:03 p.m. CST
yesterday, before things went kaput.
Sept. 3, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST
...sounds pretty vacuous to me.
Sept. 3, 2006, 1:16 p.m. CST
by The Ender
Sept. 3, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST
That was such a dumb idea to keep posting on that. It just became ranting on that tb. Talkbacks are for the specific thread, and article posted, not some lame masterbatory attempt at trying to make the world's longest talkback.
Sept. 3, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST
I wonder who's going to get up off the ground and stand up in slow motion as the camera circles around him....Bay's signature shot? All the characters in the script are so lame that right now they'd all look stupid as shit. Also, if there's a sequel to this mess, they should kill off Sam in the first 5 minutes, before the main title even appears....like they do in horror movies sometimes to the star of the previous flick.
Sept. 3, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST
...from Michael Bay's forums last night. I'm crying inside. I can't understand why, though. I only called Michael Bay a hack and his website moderator Nelson a "yes-man". I may have also said something about the script being awful and that anyone that wanted a copy could email me for it. You know, with the way movies have been performing in the last couple of years, I bet they're really afraid this flick is going to tank. Now that the fanbase is crying out I bet they're really feeling it.
Sept. 3, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST
What's a "Transformer"?
Sept. 3, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST
Read the script-- without spoiling it for anyone (Bay's already done that I think) it stinks pretty bad with every tired Hollywood cliche--- and with Quint's report I don't feel good about Bay's "directing" the actors... Starscream and Megatron exchange--- one line? There's the character development we were promised. I grew up(and yes-- I am grown up now with disposable income--- of which Don Murphy won't see a single penny) with the comics and eventually the cartoon (well up to about '86-'87). This is not the Transformers of G1 that I know... And unfortunately with Hollywood's meddling it looks like we'll never see those ones. Call it Bay's Cocaine-Fueled Big Fuckin' Bots... It sure as hell shouldn't be called Transformers.
Sept. 3, 2006, 3:25 p.m. CST
Now there's an idea for a script. Faithful to the 80's G1 with a modern update. Check it out.
Sept. 3, 2006, 3:44 p.m. CST
You weren't invited to the set. He makes it sound like Bay didn't want you there either. Are they afraid people will find out just how horribly STUPID this movie really is? WTF is with Megatron and Starscream? I'm by no means a fanboy, but I have seen a few of the cartoons since the first ones in the '80s. Prime, Megatron, and Starscream have ALWAYS has common elements that carry on from one season to the next. This movie lacks that. I seriously hope this movie does horribly, so that movie studios will learn to RESPECT the sources when they adapt something. They didn't learn with Mario Bros. They didn't learn with Street Fighter. They didn't learn with Masters of the Universe. Just another title for the 4 for $20 bin at Blockbuster.
Sept. 3, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST
by Captain RawBeard
I said Grow Up because YOU resorted to profanity and insults over the fact I had a different opinion.
Sept. 3, 2006, 4:46 p.m. CST
That's why this site is the only one with a real set scoop and access to all the cast and crew. Do Murphy's a tool.
Sept. 3, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST
Sept. 3, 2006, 4:49 p.m. CST
he has ALOT of explaining to do... his site is FULL of insults to fans of Transformers, as well as insults to you guys here, even when you give the Transformers movie far more credit than most of us do. He attacks people in their personal blogs, and goes on rants that are an insult to professional men and women everywhere. See if you can get a real answer from him that is NOT a 4 letter word. AICN should start a campaign to ruin this film like they did Batman and Robin... or more importantly, Don Murphy's career. Wouldn't it be great if he was going from studio to studio, begging for a job, but no one would touch him because of his inexcusible behavior during the making of transformers? Ohhhh... to see him making pancakes at IHOP... dare to dream.
Sept. 3, 2006, 5:05 p.m. CST
flipping pancakes at IHOP. IHOP makes some good pancakes, and he'd screw those up, too. And then he'd use profanity when you returned your food for being less than satisfactory.
Sept. 3, 2006, 5:08 p.m. CST
he seems to have taken down his comment... He deletes threads that may get him in legal problems. Basically, he was bitching about sites and included AICN in the lump of sites. Another poster comments on the fact Quint was invited on the set several times. Don replies that no one, not him, not Bay, invited Quint on the set. All he ever does is insult people who question why Starscream looks like ass and Megatron looks like a pile of steel turds.
Sept. 3, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST
H has met him, if I am correct, and he IS Quint. Anyway, if Murphy were making pancakes, you'd get waffles. Then he'd say that the old way of making pancakes doesn't work for the modern breakfast eater, and that for now on waffles are going to be pancakes. But you didn't order waffles, you still want pancakes. Then Murphy tells you to stop whining, just be happy you're getting breakfast at all. Also, blueberries are now known as raspberries. Murphy, you get the analogy yet? I know you can read.
Sept. 3, 2006, 6:33 p.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
Those of you that are already reading his boards, start keeping records of his insults and tirades. Save them as .hmtl files. Keep records of this nonsense and start forwarding them to Paramount and Hasbro. Especially if he insults you personally. Tell them how you feel about it. If you're not going to see the movie because of him, be sure and say that. I'll be doing a little of that myself, but I can only read so much of Murphy's drivel before I get a headache.
Sept. 3, 2006, 8:03 p.m. CST
Sept. 4, 2006, 1:59 a.m. CST
Hmmm... I wonder how much worse the buzz for this movie can get? It's a loooooong time until next summer. ;-)
Sept. 4, 2006, 5:57 a.m. CST
From this article, I can tell who they're aiming for. With better directorial vision, made into something more epic, enjoyable, and true to the license, Transformers could actually win Oscars as surely as LOTR did. But they don't seem to consider that a possibility. Bay's aiming for Kids' Choice Awards on Nickelodeon & Disney Channel. And you know, he just might get that. Tween girls will just eat this film up (...if any go.) They should've cast Paris Hilton or Hillary Duff or Lindsay Lohan in there somewhere, to push it over the top. lol =P
Sept. 4, 2006, 9:38 a.m. CST
Some how at this point I think Disney would of made a better choice for this movie. Since they seem to like having non humans as the stars. Sure no one could say "SHIT WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" Did anyone even manage that in the origal Movie? But hey, Disneys getting pretty good at spilling blood and blowing stuff up too. I think their trying to expand their audience. After all you have dead people, cannibles, prostitutes, killings, and fish men in PotC.
Sept. 4, 2006, 9:55 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
and taking that into account they actually seem to be trying to drive away any additional interest from fans. Pathetic.
Sept. 4, 2006, 10:54 a.m. CST
I'm going to put it right in my DVD collection with the other classics: Godzilla '99, The Island, Catwoman, Batman & Robin... Boy, am I ever glad they got Michael Bay and writers who know absolutely nothing about G1. THIS IS GONNA ROCK!!! I'm going to get a tent and get in line now so that I don't miss it!
Sept. 4, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST
Yeah, Then we can both go see it and then AvP2 together when they come out! The first one was kind of a disappointment. Does anyone even own any of those movies? I have League of Extrordinary gentlemen but that sonly because of my Sean Connery... thing.
Sept. 4, 2006, 11:14 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
I am pitching my tent nearby, and I am going to throw pirated copies to the masses. Pity the queue will consist of 3 men and a dog (and pchan)
Sept. 4, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST
Yeah, look at me and my freaky self! Isn't sarcasm fun! ...wheres the dog?
Awwshit! Aintitshot is on the Interview board.
Sept. 4, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
fuck him. Wanker. the dog won't be able to buy a ticket anyway. Which is a shame as they are going to need as many canine tickets as they can get.
Sept. 4, 2006, 11:32 a.m. CST
Yeah. Damn theaters and their hygene laws. You Specie-ists!
Sept. 4, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST
Go ahead, but unlike Bay, you (the fans) have the opportunity to shape the way this film looks and feels. Just e-mail me and we'll get started. We have a group of five now, but we need more people with CG and film experience. Right now we have a pair of story writers and two concept artists. It's a good start but we can do more. The idea is that WE are doing this... not some egomaniacal douchebag who has no idea what the Transformers are.
Sept. 5, 2006, 9:38 a.m. CST
Everything to surface about this film has been fucking terrible. The teaser was fucking lame. The Director is a fucking hack. The designs are so incredibly fucking bad, and not simply because they aren't G1, but because they look like they set a 12 year old Skull T-shirt wearing head shop employee loose in a 3D program and told him "make them look bad ass", SIMPLY FUCKING BAD DESIGN. The script chunks that have surfaced sound fucking ridiculous "Yeah, let's make Optimus and Megatron BROTHERS, see the CONFLICT there? GOLD!" "Yeah, thats fucking GOLD Michael! You want me to vacuum up the cocaine and move the dead hookers?" And what's the absolute worst? We have shitheels like googamooga with their tongue so far up Bays ass spouting shit like "At least we are getting a Transformers movie that will have kick ass effects". YOU are the reason we have to sit through movies like AVP, which is the WORST film ever made, and YOU are the reason there is unrest in the Middle East. Michael Bay, if you read these talkbacks, everything you touch becomes SHIT. And I'm not talking 'Ishtar: So bad it's good' shit. I'm talking the East German Olympic Shitting Team SHIT. G1 complaints aside, this film is going to suck fucking lard on every other level that the lack of G1-ness seem like a fart next to Hiroshima. I hope it can be buried quickly and quietly after the first two weeks of sucking the life out of any true Transformer fan who wanders in expecting some actual quality from this cinematic clusterfuck. I don't need to see any of this "film" in a finished state, because when you have nothing but chunks of shit, seeing them put together won't make it chocolate.
Sept. 5, 2006, 10:57 a.m. CST
This has been posted on his "links I like" section for awhile now.<<www.aintitcool.com - Kind of fun, like watching the last year of the Nixon Presidency (and I would have been around 10 years old then). The site once was hallowed and revered by everyone, including me. Then Harry Knowles turned it into his launchpad for his fifteen minutes of fame. Next thing you know, he's selling books and pretending he can produce movies while cameoing in every film without a sense of pride. Now any mental patient can plant a false story and get it picked up (I've done it 4 times- it's fun- try it) and it never gets retracted or addressed. He loves the films he's paid to love. Still, Nixon on the ground praying to a painting of Kennedy would have been fun to watch too.>> http://www.donmurphy.net/links.html
Sept. 6, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
There is clearly no accurate description for him. I would call him an arsehole, but that's something I can't do without. BTW this site has been unremittingly slanted towards TF. Outside of Talkbackers, that is.
Sept. 8, 2006, 5:53 a.m. CST
by Jon E Cin
and I found out transformers was shooting a block away. I didnt see any vehicles just rubble and some army guys walking around with rifles...boring. I went back to sleep.
Sept. 18, 2006, 7:38 p.m. CST
He really is one of us, how he grew up on MTV. Got to live his dream by directing music videos, broke into mainstream, etc. He ain't an old guy. In fact, he's pretty close to my age. So how can he be so out of touch? Why is he directing an action film about giant robots where there is so little material involving the robots themselves (Yes, I read the script)? If someone could time-travel 15-20 years back and tell Bay what he'd be doing in our present day, he'd disbelieve and go into total meltdown in anticipation. I understand production costs cut into how much of this can actually be done, but that doesn't appear to be the problem here. This Transformers film was engineered from the ground up to be about something other than Transformers. It feels like a vehicle for Leia LaBoushh and whatever the name of his squeeze is that's on the nicotene diet. As it stands today from my perspective (which could very well be completely rawng), Bay should try to include more Transformers in his Transformers movie.