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#19 8/23/06 #5

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MARVEL PREMIERE CLASSIC: KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #1
HEROES FOR HIRE #1
52 - WEEK SIXTEEN
DAREDEVIL #88
DMZ #10
DARKNESS/WOLVERINE #1
WONDER WOMAN #2
Indie Jones presents THE SADHU #1-2
Indie Jones presents…
CHEAP SHOTS!

MARVEL PREMIERE CLASSIC: KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT

Writer: J. M. DeMatteis
Artists: Mike Zeck and Bob McLeod
Publisher: Marvel
Reviewer: Dan Grendell

"Hear the bellow of the elephant; the roar of the lion -- the triumph of Kraven."

J. M. DeMatteis is a name that is familiar to many comics readers - the guy's been around for around thirty years - but most seem to know him for his team up with Keith Giffen on the humorous JUSTICE LEAGUE titles and spin-offs. He's just as talented a writer of deeper stuff, though, as evidenced by work like MOONSHADOW, ABADAZAD, his SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN run from the early 90s, and my favorite piece of his, KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT.

More of a Kraven story than a Spidey story, though Spidey does play a major role, KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT does what I thought was impossible and makes Kraven, one of Spider-Man's lamest villains, cool as hell. It's an act Gail Simone would follow later with Catman and the Calculator and Geoff Johns, too, with Captain Cold. DeMatteis does this by giving you insight into why Kraven does what he does, what would make a man put on a lion-head vest with gas-dispensing nipples and try to catch the deadliest beasts in the world. KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT reminds me of BATMAN: ARKHAM ASYLUM in some ways - it's a psychological look at a hero and a villain, what makes them who they are, how they are the same and how they differ.

The story is an interesting one. Kraven wants to end his career, but he knows that you gotta go out when you’re at the top of your game. To prove that he is, he must defeat the only foe that has ever escaped him - Spider-Man. And not just defeat him, but prove to himself that he is completely superior. And he does. I'm not going to give away any of the various plot points here, but I will say that Kraven wins, and how and why he does it is fascinating reading. Much more than his actions, what goes through Kraven's mind is the centerpiece of the story and it's some very interesting stuff. Peter's mind gets a nice look-see too, and his thoughts are just as interesting.

Mike Zeck's art, with Bob McLeod's inks, looks fantastic throughout the story, and really gets across the tragedies and triumphs of the tale well. Zeck and DeMatteis had collaborated before on a run of CAPTAIN AMERICA, and their ability to work well together shows. Zeck's portrayal of Vermin is both creepy and sad, making you feel sorry for the little cannibal, and panels like Spidey emerging from the ground and Kraven's end are iconic. Really, just brilliant work.

A classic story that no Spidey fan should miss, this new hardcover release is only twenty bucks for a nice package that will hold up well. Go grab it - you won't regret it.


JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #1

Writer: Brad Meltzer
Artist: Ed Benes
Inker: Sandra Hope
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Prof. Challenger

Well, it’s 2006. Time for our once-a-decade-new-first-issue of a JUSTICE LEAGUE comic.

The last time around, we were treated to a grand, almost mythical, new Justice League as a metaphorical pantheon of gods. Character development took a backseat to plot complications and action. This time around, character development takes the forefront.

Fellow reviewer Baytor recently criticized this first issue of the latest incarnation of the JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA for its overemphasis on character development and lack of action. Usually, I’d agree with that assessment in that I believe that super-hero comics began with ACTION COMICS and “action” should usually be an integral element to the genre. Imagine a HARDY BOYS novel without a mystery or an Agatha Christie mystery without a murder.

However, the thing is that I had not noticed the lack of action in JLA #1 until Baytor brought it to my attention. Usually, that sort of thing jumps up and kicks me in the face because, bottom-line, I get bored when muscular guys and gals in tights, masks, and capes sit around talking to each other. Conflict can substitute for action. Glib panel after glib panel of oh-so-clever dialogue just dulls the senses. Writer Brad Meltzer does not disguise a nominal writing talent behind a gift for long-winded dialogue. He understands that conflict drives a story and he commits to it in this comic wholeheartedly. Meltzer performed a little psychic surgery on these characters and pulled a fast one on me, front-loading this comic with character work filled with tons of emotional conflicts, and through slight-of-hand made me miss the fact that there was no action to speak of.

I can respect his writing skill for that. Sneaky jerk.

Meltzer focuses most of this issue on Red Tornado. Now, unless you’re in your 30s or up, your familiarity with Red Tornado is probably limited to his appearances in YOUNG JUSTICE. But in the 70s, Reddy was the character that JLA writers glommed onto as the heart and soul of the League. Reddy really had no identity outside of the title. Prior to Reddy, Green Arrow was the guy, but then he became a co-star in the GREEN LANTERN title and that meant his character development shifted from JLA to GL/GA, and later, his solo-feature backups in ACTION COMICS. So all the other full-time members of the League either headlined their own titles or at least appeared in regular back-up features, and those were the repositories for individual character development. But Reddy’s appearances were almost entirely within the JLA comic. And because of this, he was the one character that the JLA writers could actually do something with – because he was not under the editorial control of another editor. Reddy was your basic Pinocchio metaphor; a robot with a soul striving to become human – searching for purpose and meaning in his life. And Meltzer brings that aspect back with this story where Reddy gets his wish, with Boston Brand/Deadman serving as his very own “Blue Fairy.” I expect that Prof. T.O. Morrow, as Reddy’s “Gepetto,” will be making an appearance here very soon.

Meltzer obviously has a fondness for the 70s era League and brings in Black Lightning, who had his own series in the 70s but never joined the JLA, and utilizes Deadman, who appeared regularly in the 70s ADVENTURE COMICS. He also takes advantage of the old stand-by, Doc Magnus, to “fix” Red Tornado’s robot body – similar to how Doc was used to “fix” Robotman’s body for the SHOWCASE revival of THE DOOM PATROL also in the 70s. And let’s not forget Vixen – famed victim of the 70s DC Implosion where she was all set to have her own series and join the JLA. After the implosion, the character just coasted around in non-existent limbo until the infamous Detroit-era JLA where she was dusted off and finally brought into the League just in time to see the title cough its last dying breath. Never has she looked as good as she looks in this newest incarnation and never have her powers been this well-defined (essentially a female version of JUSTICE LEAGUE EUROPE member Animal Man) and never has she had a defined personality. In just a few pages, she jumped off the page and became my favorite of the new group.

Now, even though Meltzer is emphasizing the second-stringers for character development, he does not ignore the big three. There’s certain arrogance to the manner in which the “Super-Trinity” (Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman) just assume that every hero out there is dying to bend their knee and be asked to join this modern Round Table of heroes. But it worked for me. Saying things like “I think we can get him” when the name of Mr. Terrific (chairman of the JSA) came up – that perfectly illustrates the arrogance that I’m talking about. What I want to see is that scene where the Trinity go and “invite” Terrific to join their League and he tells them where to shove that invite. They have good intentions but they also need to be reminded that they are not gods and do not control everyone and everything. I appreciate the efforts made here, though, to establish a bond of friendship among the Trinity – evocative of their relationship in KINGDOM COME. Surely not an incidental or accidental comparison.

Other than Red Tornado’s story arc, the other major character development focuses on Roy Harper/Arsenal. In the past, Roy has struggled with identity issues. As Speedy, his personal insecurities drove him to drugs. As Arsenal, he has spent most of his time attempting to distinguish himself from Ollie/Green Arrow – almost as if he could not see his point and purpose as a redundant and Lesser version of Green Arrow. Here, newly rejuvenated Hal Jordan/Green Lantern takes the time to strike up a peer friendship with Roy rather than the “Uncle/Nephew” sort of relationship that Roy has continued to perceive it as. Hal helps Roy accept the fact that he’s grown up now and has carved out his own path. And now, with Ollie serving as mayor of Star City, the League needs Roy just as the previous League needed Wally to replace Barry as The Flash. Flattered and energized, Roy is on his way into the big time. At this point in the story, he’s still going by the name and costume of “Arsenal.” Based on the cover, however, where he’s decked out in a crimson duplicate of Green Arrow’s 70s costume replete with a big “R” on his belt, I expect we’re about to watch his transformation into the “Red Arrow” identity (once again, a nod to KINGDOM COME). This is where Speedy was always supposed to wind up. He just was unwilling to embrace his own destiny.

The villain-story involves an insidious theft of Red Tornado’s robot body and it features the lame Felix Faust, the new and intriguingly silly Dr. Impossible, and an unrevealed scary guy in charge. If it’s Darkseid I will vomit and then send the vomit-covered comic book right back to DC. As for Dr. Impossible – he claims to be Mr. Miracle’s brother and is kind of like a reverse-version of Miracle in that he uses a “Hush Tube” instead of a “Boom Tube” and a “Father Box” instead of a “Mother Box.” Oh yeah, and his costume is the same as Miracle’s except that it is purple and black rather than garish red and yellow. On the one hand, the 10 year-old in me goes “Dr. Impossible is so cool!” and on the other hand, the unfortunate 39 year-old in me goes “Ugh.” And to make matters worse, the anal-retentive uber-geek in me mutters “If he’s the reverse of Mr. Miracle shouldn’t his costume be purple and green since they are the opposite colors to red and green on the color wheel?” Then he goes mouth-breathing and knuckle-dragging down into the cellar to check the tape on all his TV GUIDE mylar bags. Thankfully, I can suppress the uber-geek when I need to. Instead, I’ll just settle on Dr. Impossible as a silly character who may turn out to be cool depending on how this story plays out.

The art by Ed Benes is the best I’ve ever seen from him. He toned down some of his Jim Lee-neckless-wonders-style on the guys and focused on telling the story. I think Sandra Hope’s inks brought out and enhanced the best of Benes. Lots of wide-screen panels in the graphic narrative but not obsessively so. This guy really knows how to draw women. His Vixen was particularly attractive. Really nice to look at from cover to cover (my choice was the Green Lantern cover btw).

I thought this was a great kick-off to a potentially great run. I love the emphasis on the 70s era characters because those are the characters I started reading JLA with. Best thing about this comic is that it seems clear that there is an effort being made to tell modern and mature stories but with enough restraint to make the comic appropriate for younger readers as well. Not only would I not hesitate, I would encourage those long-time readers out there to get this comic into the hands of junior high kids who may not already be comics readers. I suspect this series could be a good “gateway drug” for a new generation of super-hero comic fans.


HEROES FOR HIRE #1

Writer(s): Jimmy Palmiotti & Justin Gray
Penciler: Billy Tucci
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewed by Humphrey Lee

Okay, okay, okay. Breathe deep here. You can do it Humphrey, just.... oh, who am I kidding?! I WANT IRON FIST!!! IRON FIST IRON FIST IRON FIST DAMMIT!!! IT'S NOT HEROES FOR HIRE WITHOUT LUKE CAGE AND IRON FIST!!!!

....... okay, better.

I mean, it's not all bad. We've got some other great third-tierers in here. Look! There's Shang-Chi! And Paladin! In the purple body suit even! And of course there's the starlettes of the show Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. They hang out with Iron Fist all the time. Everything's going to be okay... right?

And I guess it is just that. "Okay". Flowing out of the DAUGHTERS OF THE DRAGON miniseries and, like anything from Marvel these days, the "creatively tardy" CIVIL WAR event, the first issue of HEROES FOR HIRE is a pretty entertaining read. I had fun with it, but it also had some glaring faults that didn't really make me excited for the next issue but didn't come out badly enough that I'm not willing to give it a couple more issues. The main problem at hand here is that this is waaaayyyy too busy, even for a 'pilot' issue. In 22 pages we have a giant street brawl with Misty and Company against some of Mandarin's former lackeys, we have the mandatory "Which side are you on?" speech between the girls and the pro-registration capes from CIVIL WAR, we've got down time and dinner between the HFH misfits, and then we've got yet another brawl. The length of my run-on there speaks for itself.

But there's a lot of good here. The book is brimming with great action, team banter, and just overall fun, kung fuey goodness. I love lower tier characters, and I love ensemble books, so this was going to probably get a couple issues from me to begin with as I watched how the overall chemistry between the characters and the creative team itself settled into what this book will (hopefully) be. I just need to see more. More motives behind the members of this rather off-color group. Why they joined, who they are (mainly for the new Tarantula), and yes, even why they stand where they do on the whole registration act. If this book is going to be born out of this giant "Marvel Comic's Event in Seven Sporadic Parts!" then I'm going to hold them to it. I just need some more meat is all... and Iron Fist.

Okay, enough with the Iron Fist. But let's talk about the art before we wrap this up shall we? It's a pretty big deal that we have here one Mr. Bill Tucci (creator of SHI) on this book. And he is a great part of why this book worked where it did, but also why it failed where it did too. Obviously a big selling point of this title is all the femme fatales running around kicking ass, and when it comes to those no one beats The Tucc. And the action doth flow forth from his pencil like a mighty river, but it's also terribly busy. Overcrowded panels, overflowing action sequences, and a little too much pose striking for my tastes, overall it just perpetuates what I said about the writing: it's too much at once. But also like the story unfolding here I think it will have a chance to "let out its breath" so to speak and hopefully, hopefully, hopefully find the right balance.

Final verdict? If you enjoy seeing all these lower end characters in one spot, or you've seen over a hundred Jackie Chan and Jet Li flicks like I have, buy this comic and see if you can find the potential in it I've glimpsed somewhat from it. Otherwise this really isn't going to be your schtick, and honestly would just serve as a testament towards your being a CIVIL WAR bitch and buying anything with the logo on it. We all know it's true, but that doesn't mean you have to perpetuate it. Cheers...


52 - WEEK SIXTEEN

Written by: Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison, Greg Rucka, and Mark Waid
Illustrated by: Keith Giffen and Joe Bennett
Published by: DC Comics
Reviewed by: superhero

This issue of 52 was the most effective issue for me so far. While I’ve been a bit lukewarm on this series since its beginning there are some aspects of it which I find intriguing, one of which being Black Adam and his designs on creating a foreign superpower of his own. Let’s face it, Black Adam has been one of the most interesting characters in the DCU for the past several years and when an issue of 52 centers on him I have to say that I find myself wanting to read it. Unlike the Steel arcs or the adventures of the Space Heroes on planet Ecstasy Fruit, Black Adam gets my attention every time.

I always love it when obscure comic characters get the dust brushed off of them to be given new life with an interesting twist years later and Isis is no exception. Heck, if you’re going to revive an almost completely forgotten TV character you could do a lot worse than what they’ve done with her. I actually have a couple of copies of the old crappy DC TV Comics adaptations of ISIS and I can tell you right now that there wasn’t really a lot to live up to. If anything, she’s a welcome addition to the modern age DCU and it’s too bad that she’ll probably be dead meat before 52 is all over but, hey, at least for now she’s helping provide some good reading material. I actually think that Black Adam is going to do something reprehensible in front of her (like, oh, maybe tear a living person in half) and that’s where the rift will develop but horrified ex-spouse or murdered lover, either way we all know Black Adams gonna get his heart shredded and that’s part of what makes this comic a great read.

That’s because this issue focuses on the wedding of Black Adam and Isis and for once it seems like Adam’s actually found true happiness. Not only that but the whole Marvel Family is just getting along just like peaches and cream. This was a great series of events for me as it was just terrific to see the whole kinder, gentler Marvel Family dynamic playing itself out. It was fun to read and really put a smile on my face. Sure, we all know that Adam’s and the Marvels’ happiness is more than likely short lived but it’s the sour stuff that makes the sweet stuff so sweet.

Speaking of sour stuff, unfortunately there’s plenty of that going on during the wedding ceremony as well. This is where Renee Montoya and The Question’s arc finally intersects with Adam’s and this sequence of the story played out beautifully. While the Montoya segments have been boring me a bit as well this issue almost makes up for the silly Batwoman stuff with Kathy Keane I’ve had to sit through for the past several weeks. Almost.

Montoya and the Question end up uncovering a suicide bomb plot which is set to disrupt the aforementioned wedding of Black Adam and Lady Isis. This segment filled out the book with the right amount of tension to play off of all the joyous goings on with the Marvel Family. The end result was a sad but necessary conclusion that showed that sometimes heroes have to make crushing choices in order to save lives.

A lot of people have been giving the artists on this book a hard time but I have to say that I actually liked Joe Bennett’s work here. He’s a solid craftsman who’s able to effectively deliver the necessary goods. Much of the credit for the flow of the storytelling should go to Keith Giffen, undoubtedly, but Bennett carries the ball and runs with it here. Sure, I still have some problems with the fact that since the beginning of 52 Renee Montoya suddenly looks like Miss Fitness USA with breast implants but I can let that go.

So while 52 has been a hit or miss proposition for me this issue delivered the goods. I was getting ready to drop this book but this week has kept me on board for the next couple of weeks at least.


DAREDEVIL #88

Writer: Ed Brubaker
Art: David Aja
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: Ambush Bug

One of my most favorite comics in recent years was CAPTAIN AMERICA #7, the last days of Jack Monroe AKA Nomad story that Ed Brubaker wrote a while back. This story seemed to occur at just the right time, shed light on someone from the main character’s supporting cast, and added to the main storyline by providing the story from a different angle. DAREDEVIL #88 is a similar type of issue, but whereas the CAP issue provided depth to an already great storyline, this issue fell flat for me.

Sure, I’m happy as the next guy that Foggy didn’t really get shanked in prison a few issues back. Foggy’s always been an integral part of the DD/Matt Murdock persona. He’s the human element—the part that kept Daredevil grounded, his confidant, his advisor, his lil’ buddy. Even when Matt Murdock heard Foggy’s heartbeat stop in those final tense panels of that issue, there was a part of me that knew Bru wouldn’t kill off such an important character.

So after the bombshell dropped last issue revealing that Foggy was alive, I knew a “Jack Monroe-type” issue was coming. And knowing how cool that issue was, I have to say I was looking forward to another interesting sidebar to this ongoing classic run Bru has been mapping out since he took over the writing reigns.

But after reading DAREDEVIL #88, I have to say I put it down with a feeling of dissatisfaction. The revelation that Foggy is in the witness protection program was the punchline, and it was a hell of a good one, but that was revealed in the last panel of last issue. This issue sort of functions as a 22 page explanation of the joke and you know what happens when you have to explain a joke.

Going through the motions, this issue cites clichéd witness protection procedures that we’ve seen before many times. Foggy tries to remember his new name and life the feds have set up for him. He’s trying to get a hold of Matt Murdock and Ben Urich, but fails every time. Even his escape attempt was pretty uneventful resulting with yet another ninja attack leading to a not-so-shocking revelation that it isn’t just the feds who are looking out for Foggy’s well being. Sure there are some great monologues by Daredevil’s best bud featuring some relevant insight into the character (how Foggy values his relationship with Matt, and how much value he thinks Matt places on him, for example). But these insights come early on and are soon nudged out of the way in favor of more clichés. The whole issue just feels unnecessary. Whereas I found the Jack Monroe/Nomad story to be a welcome vacation from the story in CAP, I found myself longing to return to the forefront of the story with this issue. The CAP tale added an interesting new perspective to a tale, adding weight to a death of an important character in Cap’s life. This story didn’t really do any of that and lacked the emotion or heft to matter.

DAREDEVIL written by Brubaker is on its own level. We’re in the middle of a great run; one that will probably be looked back upon as a classic. A ho-hum issue of Bru’s DAREDEVIL is better than most comics on their best day. So maybe I’m holding this book up to higher expectations, but compared to the rest of Bru’s run on this title and compared to the similarly structured Jack Monroe issue, this book doesn’t even compare.


DMZ #10

Writer: Brian Wood
Penciler: Riccardo Burchielli
Publisher: Vertigo/DC Comics
Reviewed by Humphrey Lee

We're at the end of the second full arc of one of the latest batch of Vertigo titles and there's two conclusions that can be drawn at this point: One is that Riccardo Burchielli is a superstar artist and a very talented man, and Two is that this book is at the top of the Vertigo class, thereby making it one of the best comics being published today.

Matthew Roth has a bit of a problem on his hands. The United States army is getting ready to stamp right on into the heart of Manhattan and is responsible for the death of a highly touted journalist (one Viktor Ferguson) whose misreported demise is actually the justification for the full scale attack. Matty is also reported as being dead behind "enemy" lines, but he's alive and well and has the evidence that can prove the death of Viktor wasn't caused by the Free States and blow this whole invasion apart.

The key word here is "tension". Tension created through some brilliantly detailed art as we watch Manhattan Island being carpet bombed to pieces. Tension building as we see Matty and his NY gal pal Zee hunkered down with tons of other Manhattan denizens as the city above them is blown apart. Tension as we see US Forces marching across the George Washington Bridge. And Matthew is in the middle of it all and it's his footage that can bring it all down. If there's one complaint I can and will make about this title, it's that the lone journalist with the power to throw a wrench in the plans of "the man", makes this book a bit too much of a comparison to another highly-acclaimed Vertigo title, TRANSMETROPOLITAN. Matty Roth is in no way shape or form Spider Jerusalem characteristically, but the point they both serve does induce a bit of the old deja vu. But if you're going to riff something, you might as well riff the best I say. In a way DMZ is working on a much broader scale as its focus is on the subject of war and insurgency, while TRANSMET was more a pure political piece (that had tons of gleefully sadistic violence instead). Either way, both are very important works in their own right, it's just a matter that this one has a little bit of a more "been there, done that" feel since it comes in the wake of Warren Ellis' masterpiece.

And speaking of masterpieces, let's get a bit deeper into Burchielli's art, shall we? Besides his ability to draw wonderfully desolate landscapes, he also brings a lot of personality to the characters that thrive in the Demilitarized Zone, both in the foreground and the back. This issue shows that skill off a lot, as we see Matty and Zee down in their hideout as the populous around them does what they can to pass the time. The people of the war zone thrive, and the whole situation feels that much more real because of how Riccardo depicts them. I love everything about his art from the details of the ruined buildings above the streets to the character designs of the citizens roaming on and below them. Any acclaim this title gets would do well to acknowledge his contribution to the whole of the experience that is DMZ.

If you haven't tried this title by now it's obviously not too late. We're only ten issues in, and you can read the first five in trade form for only a measly ten spot. Vertigo has long been the home to some of the biggest and the best titles comics have known, and is still going strong with the likes of titles like FABLES, Y: THE LAST MAN, and 100 BULLETS. DMZ shows there's always room for one more.


DARKNESS/WOLVERINE #1

Writer: Frank Tieri
Artists: Tyler Kirkham and Stjepan Sejic
Publisher: Top Cow productions and Marvel Comics
Guest Cog Reviewer: El Vale

This comic is pretty stupid.

But the thing is, even though DARKNESS/WOLVERINE #1 is not what you and I would refer to as "good", it is what I would call pretty entertaining (like one of those car crashes you keep hearing about), and often pretty irritating for clearly unintentional reasons (like that guy who keeps kicking your seat at the movies, but not on purpose). But you all knew that already because it's a team up between Darkness and Wolverine (duh) and right off the bat it doesn't sound like it's gonna be intellectually stimulating.

Anyway, this is a told-in-one story about Jackie Estacado and Wolverine becoming best buds even though Logan slashed Jackie's "grandpappy" up during World War II. It's really touching because we can all identify with that sort of thing. I mean...not Wolverine slashing your grandpa up during WWII, I mean the themes of forgiveness and redemption and having drinks with guys who were never really your friends. So this is like, if you feel like reading PREACHER but you think that would take too long, you can just read this one instead. It's got a bar and everything.

And since this is a told-in-one story and at the end it says "The End", I’m left wondering whether or not there's gonna be an ongoing series of told-in-ones in which Darkness and Wolverine go to tittie bars, kill vampires, and run into Witchblade while she's taking a shower, because right there on the cover it states this is issue number one and wouldn't it be sad if this were all we ever got? Anyway, those are the kind of questions this comic leaves you asking yourself, because it's not one of those comics you read and forget about in two seconds, like that comic I just forgot about. No, this one stays with you hopefully until you finish writing your review.

Anyway, the actual story takes place in the past (1942), where Logan meets Roberto Estacado, and the present (2006 I guess) where Logan meets Jackie Estacado. One thing that really bugged me, Roberto Estacado looks exactly like Jackie Estacado except with a beard. So it's nice to know the Estacado genes have passed unpolluted throughout the generations, just like mine. I mean you should see a painting of my awesome ancestor, Spanish Conquistador El Valeriano; guy looks exactly like me except he has a beard and his clothes are pretty funny/puffy.

Both Estacados try to kill Logan using different methods, like Darkness bullets [TM] and critters of varying sizes, but the difference is Roberto's a bastard and Jackie is not (?) so Logan only kills ol' Rob, but not before Rob can spit in his face. And you should see Logan's face, man; I swear to you, he's smiling like a Swedish girl picking flowers on a prairie. It's pretty awesome. At first I thought maybe that was a quick and uneventful death for Roberto Estacado, that magnificent bastard, but then I realized this guy wasn't so much a character as he was a Spanish stereotype. And not a good one at that, because he can't even speak proper Spanish, a point that is made evident during that sequence in which something happens and he says "Madre Dios", or "Mother God" for the Spanish-impaired. Who does he think he's fooling? All he does is walk around speaking English even when he doesn't need to and calling people "Señor." What an asshole. And I’m not even gonna bother telling you about the French stereotypes you'll find in this here comic. One thing writers need to understand is having your foreign character speak perfect English all the while throwing stupid, over used, clichéd lines like "Mi amigo" and "Mon dieu" in there every chance they get doesn't make for compelling characterization.

Jackie, though, Jackie's a nice guy so he decides to put on his magical Darkness costume just so he can take it off immediately and tell Logan he's nothing like his grandfather and he doesn't want to do battle (true story). So basically they wanted to give artists Kirkham (pencils) and Sejic (color) a chance to show Estacado in full Darkness gear, because everyone knows how kewl that is (not very), which is a prime example of how shallow comics can be, but what the fuck did you expect, Vale? Then they sit and have a drink and talk about how long it takes for Wolverine's ear to grow back. ha ha. The end.

Sejic, by the way, is the unquestionable star of the book. Even though the art is not perfect (and I want to blame Kirkham for that), Sejic makes it look painterly and rich and much much better than you'd expect from this kind of comic. Bravo dude, I know it wasn't easy.

And as for Frank Tieri and the rest? Well at least you tried, guys--at least you tried.


WONDER WOMAN #2

Writer: Allan Heinberg
Artists: Terry Dodson (pencils) & Rachel Dodson (inks)
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Prof. Challenger

How long has it been since WONDER WOMAN #1 came out?

Sure doesn’t seem like only last month, or maybe it’s just me. Regardless, my enthusiasm for the title has slightly waned since then. I’m guessing that I loved the first issue more because of how much it exceeded my sewer-level expectations. This time, I was maybe expecting too much, so it came in under the radar a bit.

The art was still exceptional--smooth and sensual. The structure of the story was a little disjointed beginning with a flashback of Donna as Wonder Woman with Diana and Batman observing her from a distance. The point? To backtrack for the reader and show how Diana wound up working with Nemesis at the Department of Meta-Human Affairs.

As I said in my earlier WW review, I have nostalgic monkey-love for that psychedelic white jumpsuit 70s era of Wonder Woman. It was so bizarre and surreal with her running around with that Chinese mystic calling himself I-Ching (of which I’m guessing that the writer back then didn’t have a clue what the I-Ching actually is). As far as I know, this is the first time in 30 plus years that I-Ching has been referenced in a WONDER WOMAN comic. Heinberg seems to have embraced that era and moved it into post-Crisis continuity by having those non-costumed adventures of Diana occur during the past untold year. Quite a clever way of bringing that in.

One cool praise and one minor quibble. I guess I’ll go with the quibble first. This has to do with Nemesis. I am a fan of the old Nemesis backup series that ran in the 70s. But, I gotta say that the personality of Nemesis in this issue of WONDER WOMAN is simply not the same. Nemesis in this comic came off like a petty knucklehead rather than the incredibly smart and efficient super-agent--almost like Heinberg is writing Nemesis as Lyle Waggoner’s Steve Trevor from the WONDER WOMAN TV series. My praise is also related to the TV series. It has to do with the choice of incorporating that awesome sensual costume-changing scenario that Lynda Carter’s Diana Prince would go through in every episode. You know what I mean: Taking off those glass, letting her hair down, twirling in a circle with outstretched arms as magical lights surround her and then BOOM she’s in costume. She starts to do that in this issue and I was jazzed to see it. Although our “surprise” guest-star had to go an intrude on the change in the last page...

It was still a good issue. Not as good as the first issue, but to quote Larry David, it’s Preeeetttyyyy pretty PRETTY good!

THE SADHU #1-2

Writer: Gotham Chopra
Artists: Jeevan Kang and R. Manikandan
Publisher: Virgin
Reviewer: Dan Grendell

"The truth is that sometimes you need to go so far and leave those you love the most to find out who you really are."

A number of new comics companies have come and gone over the years, failing for various reasons, so when I heard about the launch of Virgin Comics I was interested but apprehensive. "Is there a point to trying new books from a company that may just disappear?" I asked myself. Then I said, "Self, that may be the dumbest thing you've ever said, aside from that one time you confused lesbians and Libyans. A good story is a good story, and if people don't check it out, that will ensure that Virgin doesn't hang around. Stop being an idiot." Myself gave me the finger, but admitted I was right, and so I picked up THE SADHU. And I'm glad I did.

THE SADHU is the story of James Jensen, a lower-class Englishman who leaves his job as a dockworker in London in 1858 to take his wife and baby to India, where Her Majesty's army needs more soldiers to keep peace among the natives. For Jensen it's a chance to start a new life, and it goes relatively well, despite an asshole commander determined to break his spirit. Then a time comes when the native soldiers serving in the army are ordered to load their muskets - but the paper cartridge the gunpowder is kept in has been soaked in cow grease, sacred to the native Indians. Their commander refuses, and Jensen is ordered to kill him. He will not, and his military life goes downhill from there. Things take a horrible turn, and Jensen finds himself on the run, with only the native people to help him.

Interestingly enough, the historical native soldiers serving in the Bengal Army of the British East India Company in India were actually forced to use paper soaked in cow grease and their refusal to do so sparked the War of Independence of 1857. I love to see historically accurate little bits like this in comics.

THE SADHU is well-written, recreating very well the world of 19th century India in the hands of the British. By using an Englishman as the protagonist, Chopra allows the Western reader to see the exotic land of India through (pardon the pun) virgin eyes, revealing it bit by bit and not overwhelming you with too much that would seem overly strange. By the same token, enough is different and mysterious about the culture and land that you are drawn in to both the story and the background, anxious to see both what happens next and the environment it happens in. There's plenty to hold a reader's interest here.

Kang and (with issue 2) Manikandan have done their homework well, their art giving a very legitimately 19th century look and feel. They are particularly adept at wringing emotions from faces, something I always appreciate, but action scenes and anatomy are also quite well done. A special mention should be given to the colors of S. Sundarakannan, whose palette really brings the art to life. Those colors complement the artwork so well in THE SADHU that I can't really see the book working without them.

Overall, this is a great breath of fresh air and an intriguing story. I'm looking forward to reading it for, I hope, a long time.



ROTTING IN DIRTVILLE
Gigantic Graphic Novels

I could go on about how well textured James Callahan's characters are, or how astonishing his layouts look. I could talk about the excellent buildup in the first half, and the balls to the wall insanity of the second half. But in all honesty, all you need to know is that the first and last sentence of the book is "This was the day the giant robot zombies came." If that doesn't grab you, don't bother. Everyone else, you're going to love this sucker. - Vroom Socko

TRANSFORMERS: EVOLUTIONS – HEARTS OF STEEL #1 & 2
IDW Publishing

I don’t know what exactly I was expecting from this book. This was actually my first taste of TRANSFORMERS comics. And let me tell you that after reading these two issues, this miniseries is definitely…MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!

Bwah! Buh-haw! Ah-heh…ahem…hmmm…

I was impressed not only by the backstory of these battling robots who can turn into vehicles, but by the inventive way in which historical American figures were incorporated in this Times Past tale of the Transformers. Jules Verne, Mark Twain, and John Henry are all featured prominently in this series. And featured pretty smartly, I might add. This book read a bit like THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN as these historical figures interacted and inadvertently took part in the ageless battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons. The art is pretty spot on as well, featuring the highly detailed lines necessary to illustrate these robots effectively. These first two issues were a hoot to read through and I am eagerly awaiting the rest of the series. - Ambush Bug

WEREWOLVES: CALL OF THE WILD #1
Moonstone

It’s a lonely life, being a werewolf. No one understands the pleasure one has being able to lick one’s balls with a wolfy tongue and all. This book is a nice road tale featuring a werewolf in search of his lost brother. There’s some really good characterization with an R. Lee Ermey type police chief who may or may not be a werewolf himself. There’s a mystery, but only a hint of werewolfing about. Hopefully, the werewolfing will be upped in the next few issues because when the fur flies, this book is pretty darn entertaining. - Ambush Bug

X ISLE #2
BOOM! Studios

Not so much LOST as it is a more serious version of LAND OF THE LOST where a group of scientists and two surly sailors find themselves on an uncharted island where none of the vegetation or animal life has been documented and all of them pose a definite threat to our survivors. At times, the art teeter totters between amusement and annoyance, given the fact that one character is obviously based on Samuel L. Jackson (isn’t he running SHIELD or something?), while another looks like actor Josh Lucas, and yet another bears a striking resemblance to our own Harry Knowles. It’s fun to see a comic book already cast for Hollywood, but annoying due to the baggage each character carries with them for resembling such recognizable faces. The story, though, has been filled with twists and turns. Like LOST, the deeper the survivors go into the jungle and the longer they stay on this isle, the more mysterious it becomes. This one’s got me hooked. - Ambush Bug

WEIRD SISTER
RED
Street Fables

Writer Elizabeth Genco has a unique voice. It’s evident in the way she ping-pongs her word balloons and the way she writes her forwards and afterwards in these two ashcan sized books from Street Fables. RED is a nice little urban tale with a classic twist ending about predator and prey and how, in an instant, those roles can be switched. This is an elegant and precautionary tale told in a confident and simplistic way. The art by Kevin Colden is very gesture-like, highlighted by splatterings of the color red throughout this attractive black and white comic. WEIRD SISTER is a compilation of shorts featuring a woman named Daleth who channels Earth Goddesses such as Artemis and Hecate to protect her and her friends from harm. She’s also got a pretty cool shadow dog named Shock. These three tales help introduce this character, her powers, and the horrors of the world (both real and fantastical) that she has to face. These tales are breezy and short, but carry a heft and heart that makes each panel count. Genco enlists some talented B&W artists to illustrate her words. Both WEIRD SITER and RED show the emergence of a talented new voice in indie comics. I look forward to reading more from her. - Ambush Bug

ZOMBIES: FEAST #3
IDW Publishing

I really enjoyed the herky-jerky art stylings from artist Enrique Lopez Lorenzana in this book. While the physiques and posturings of the characters may not look too real and sometimes appear to be contorted and squished into the panel, it is interesting to see an artist not so distracted with following the rules of reality when drawing the human figure. Some arms and legs are longer and shorter than others. People assume poses that a high-priced double-jointed Belgian hooker couldn’t contort into, but the artist keeps this story entertaining and there’s an energy in the lines that makes all of these anatomical inconsistencies OK by me. The story is moving along at kind of a slow pace. Basically, in three issues, the chain gang has moved from the prison vehicle to a farm and now to an department store in a town; all the while they’re pursued by zombies and fighting amongst themselves and the unlucky police officers bound to keep this group of prisoners together and out of trouble. But the art and the fact that this is one of those zombie stories where every character is one you wouldn’t mind having their innards devoured by a pack of zombies makes this book a guilty pleasure. - Ambush Bug

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FLASH: THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE #3
DC Comics

Three issues in and this title is finally moving up from shockingly bad to mediocre. Gone are the random origin recaps (some featuring characters not in the book) and we’ve settled into something resembling a plot. Bart’s best friend has developed super-powers and has decided to become a super-hero, The Griffin, and Bart suddenly realizes that his friend is a raging asshole (I guess the first issue of his own comic wasn’t part of his reading list when he was laid up with a busted leg). The material isn’t exactly original, but might be enjoyable enough if the book moved at a quicker pace and you didn’t see the plot points coming three issues away. Bart is coming closer to accepting the mantle of The Flash, but still isn’t there. Griff is obviously going to be a bad guy, but he hasn’t quite made the transition. And we learn about the mysterious phone caller, but not what he’s up to. The Mad Bomber Who Bombs Whenever It’s Convenient is still setting random bombs in the hopes that this might provide an exciting plot moment. I can’t even blame this on writing for the trade, because the pacing off for that. This is being written episodically, but they just can’t seem to bring themselves to have much of anything happen. - Baytor

ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #99
Ultimate Marvel Comics

Holy fucking shit! Did I say last time that Brian Bendis had balls the size of Ohio? Man, was I wrong. The sucker has balls the size of the Eastern Seaboard. His balls can cause a solar and lunar eclipse simultaneously. His balls can feed Paris Hilton for a year with just one load. Just read this issue, with its half-dozen twists and turns, and tell me Bendis doesn't have balls that can affect the tide. At the very least, if you read this issue there's no way in hell you're going to tell me that you don't want to read #100. - Vroom Socko

BATMAN #656
DC Comics

Only Grant Morrison would have the balls and the talent to do a continuation of the SON OF THE DEMON story so well. How can you not have fun reading this comic as a gaggle of Man-Bat ninjas crash a Lichtenstein-like art exhibit? The paintings in the background reflect the action taking place in the forefront in the oldest of old school ways, making this a modern/retro/old school/cutting edge mish-mash of comic book goodness. It’s smart madcappery from Morrison and Kubert which leads to a plot advancement that’ll prove to be extremely problematic for the entire Bat-Family. Highly recommended. - Bug

ETERNALS #3
Marvel Comics

This book is like Robert Altman directing a Star Wars movie. Altman, in case you don’t recognize the name, is the man responsible for a number of award-winning ensemble cast movies like “Nashville” and “M*A*S*H”, and isn’t known for anything resembling high-octane action movies. There’s no doubt that Neil Gaiman can handle the mythological aspects of THE ETERNALS and he excels at character interaction, but when it comes to action, he simply doesn’t deliver the sort of imaginative spectacle that you’d expect from a Kirby book. Is it bad? No, not really. Gaiman is a good enough writer to make almost anything he does entertaining, but I just can’t get over the feeling that I’m being cheated. - Baytor

THE WALKING DEAD #30
Image Comics

Rrreally nice switcheroo moment in this issue that turns your expectations on its ear and then flicks it out of sheer cruelty till it’s bloody and numb. As much as others have found this book to be a bit over the top in the gratuitous violence department lately, I find it to be a natural evolution—showing how far civilization has devolved in such a short time since the zombie takeover. To me, this book has regained its stride and has resumed its rightly place as the comic I most look forward to reading from one month to the next. - Bug

SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE # 9
Marvel Comics

It’s pretty fitting that this issue’s cover of SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE is a riff on the poster for THE BREAKFAST CLUB because at this point I’m really getting a really strong John Hughes ‘80’s teen movie vibe from this book. When I say that, I mean the good John Hughes ‘80’s teen movies. Stuff like SIXTEEN CANDLES and SOME KIND OF WONDERFUL. McKeever and Miyazawa are to today’s comic book scene what Hughes was to movies back in the day and it’s too bad this book doesn’t get the attention it deserves. Sean McKeever really does a great writing job here setting up the Mary Jane/Gwen Stacy/Peter Parker love triangle without making it come across too cheesy or soap opera-ey. Takeshi Miyazawa’s art is as strong as always and his storytelling continues to impress me. He’s able to capture all of the character’s emotions accurately and with subtlety while adding the right amount of warmth to what is essentially a human coming of age story trapped in a super-hero world. It’s hard for me to imagine this book without Miyazawa’s continued presence and he’ll be sorely missed when he leaves the book within the next several months. - superhero



Readers Talkback
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  • Aug. 30, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Too soon

    by ranting_dude

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Brian Bendis JUGG FUCKLED me

    by muscelyarm

    Can't wait for Ultiamte Spidey 100

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Ok, "JUGG FUCKLED" is DOA, k? Only idiots say it

    by chrth

    Hate to be the one to break it to you, but I've been on this site too long to allow something so bland to become a catchphrase, brother!

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Awesome Review, El!

    by Buzz Maverik

    Excellent work. Dig the sense of humor, dig the 'tude! Oh, and, uh...the @$$holes are...nice people as well.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    By "Nice", I Mean...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...they have good personalities. A few of them are even employed. Does community service count as employment? I think it does, even if it is court mandated. Back to the day off.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Thanks Mr Maverick

    by El Vale

    And thanks for all the help, it was of inmeasurable value to me *one tear*

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I guess you're right

    by muscelyarm

    JUGG FUCKLED is much blander than Too Soon, or First, or Hulk Hogan as the Baddie. No, wait. You're just a dick.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    muscleyarm, love your screenname!

    by GiggityGoo

    Actually made me smile, and if you recognize *my* screenname then you'll know what... And it's not because I can recite all 50 states in a quarter of a second: BLAHRK!

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    muscelyarm, I remember my first day too

    by chrth

    And what the hell is 'muscely'? Did you mean 'muskily'? Go get yourself a new logon before the current one sticks and you're remembered as an idiot.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Typo correction

    by Prof Challenger

    I mentioned Mr. Miracle's costume as "Red and Green" when I meant "Red and Yellow." Sorry if it confused the baked and stoned. :)

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    For the record

    by Baytor

    I like JLofA #1... just thought stuff need to be 'sploding.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Wow, what a great bunch of reviews.

    by dregmobile

    never thought i'd actually want to try out a TRANSFORMERS title until now. i killed WONDER WOMAN after that first issue. a bit too mcg for me. 2 didn't look all that great, so i didn't bother. great in depth review on JLA 1. couldn't remember a thing about any red arrow character so thanks for the heads up. i actually thought those indian-themed virgin comics would suck until now. and i am probably about to step on board DAREDEVIL for the first time from issue 89. i was never going to even think about getting HEROES FOR HIRE until i saw the art. after reading the review for it, i'll try to track it down. and that DMZ trade, too ... oh, and great to reCOGnise vale up there for a review!

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 7:43 p.m. CST

    great reviews guys and Fucking A a cog guest review!

    by Darth Kal-El

    i swear i came a little!.and vale thanks for also bringing the funny*** on the comics im really looking forward to the kravens last hunt trade. i remember not being allowed to buy the orignial issues when they came out because they looked to violent/demonic to my then adventist parents. everyone is out of the church and i is full grown so karvens last hunt here i come!

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 7:46 p.m. CST

    chrth

    by muscelyarm

    You are an anonymous douche bag. I

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 7:48 p.m. CST

    and just IMHO

    by Darth Kal-El

    ALL aicn catch phrases are pretty fucking dumb. all of them. if u said jugg fuckled or brother or whatever to your normal average person who doesnt read aicn they would look at u like you needed to get back on the short bus.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    why no zombie comics?

    by kidjingo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azo8heDmNoQ

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 8:45 p.m. CST

    congrats...

    by blackthought

    vale...that review would worry me though if you were 100 percent serious.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Disagree

    by biscuit turner

    First, I'm ired of folks putting over Walking Dead based on this "how far would humanity sink?" crap. It's a narrative dead end; the only way to continue is to become more nasty, and the book is quickly transforming from exhilarating to exhausting. Kirkman's a cool concept guy, but I'm starting to question his storytelling (see the mess that was this week's Ultimate X-Men Annual #2). Second, I loved the twists and turns in USM #99, but the damn thing is called "The Clone Saga." It doesn't have much impact when you know that every one of those crazy twists can be erased in a millisecond.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 9:27 p.m. CST

    DeMatteis rules

    by Thalya

    And I liked a fair deal of his Spectre run, throw tomatoes if you will. Plus he's done a number of JLU episodes. But Mr. Grendell, I must take issue. Brad Meltzer was the one who made Calculator cool. Gail's just the one who's written him most since, throughout VU and BoP. Yet despite writing him the most, she hasn't picked up on something that Brad and even Marc Andreyko noted immediately: he's a nexus in an "old boys" network of supervillains: given his history, he's tried just about every villain type iteration and in his quiet years he apparently made the rounds in villain social circles. He knows the business inside and out, but in VU and BoP he doesn't get to show that so much because Gail has favored an over-the-top and even freakish portrayal at times. Meh.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Bravo Vale!

    by Thalya

    Great review! Actually, a great bunch of reviews all around guys. Kudos! And yes, that means you all get chocolate-covered granola bars. The sweetbreads are all mine though, unless I get a hernia and they make a weird exit plan but let's not get into that..

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Ultimate Spider-man...

    by tonyd1411

    is so damn good right now that I can barely contain myself while reading each issue. Ever since the Warriors run it has been fantastic, and the last few issue have made me crap my pants as I read them. Bendis really does have some huge balls with the shit that he is pulling. I know they are bringing back Carnage next issue, but where the hell is Venom? That's the only thing that could make it better.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    Nemesis

    by english

    The Nemesis that is appearing in "Wonder Woman" is a different one that appeared as a back in "Brave and Bold" in the early 80's. The original died a few years ago (but I can't remember where-the Eclipso massacre maybe?). That would explain the personality change.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Nemesis (again)

    by english

    Sorry, should have said "...appeared as a back-up...".

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Re: Nemesis

    by Prof Challenger

    Thanks. That would explain the oncongruity there. So who knows the background on the new guy enough to fill me in? That's what the cogs are for. Well....that and bringing the funny.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:18 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. Pa Kent

    by Bubba Gillman

    Kind of, but not really, off topic - Glenn Ford has passed away. Oh, and Superman Returns rules.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the kind words people

    by El Vale

    Hugs for everyone YAAAAAY!

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Re: Nemesis

    by Thalya

    A quick check on dcuguide.com revealed that the second Nemesis was a woman killed by Eclipso. The original Nemesis, Tom Tresser, appears to be our man, as it was mentioned he served in the Suicide Squad in this issue of WW. But Prof, I kinda agree with you that his characterization is off, and that's only what I've seen since issue #1, where he was a much cooler cat. On another note, the Dodsons' art is a treat, ain't it?

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Re: Nemesis

    by Prof Challenger

    The Dodsons' art is absolutely gorgeous. That's one thing going right now at DC. They've got some artists that really know how to draw the wimmens.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:51 p.m. CST

    No kidding...

    by Thalya

    And that actually reminds me. Going back to issue #0 of Justice League of America for a moment, at the end when Benes' art comes in, I think that's the most honestly beautiful depiction of Wonder Woman I've ever seen, and that could take some doing because there's been a sizable amount of Wonder Woman art in the past year alone.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Re: Nemesis

    by Prof Challenger

    Benes' Wonder Woman and Vixen are unbelievable. That shot of Powergirl on the cover was nice too. What I like about his stuff (Dodsons too) is that it's not just pin-up work. They don't just look like they're posing for a porn photo.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Re: WW

    by Prof Challenger

    But I still say that Braithwait and Ross's pic of Wonder Woman for the JUSTICE fact-file on WW is the hands-down best visualization of WW I've ever seen.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Self-Pimping Time

    by Prof Challenger

    My latest contribution to the world of literature has started shipping this week. I am one of three illustrators who contributed to the massive collection PEARLS FROM PEORIA by Philip Jose Farmer. Available now from Subterranean Press at <http://www.subterraneanpress.com/> or through Amazon for a good sized discount. Check it out!

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    My fave rendition of WW

    by El Vale

    I remember this one time i drew Wonder Woman singing into her hairbrush. It was pretty sweet.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    That&#39;s very cool Prof

    by El Vale

    I&#39;d buy it if i could.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:15 p.m. CST

    El Vale

    by Prof Challenger

    How could you tell it was WW without her clothes on?

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Calculator

    by dan grendel

    Thalya, your fetish is well known &#39;round here, so I don&#39;t wanna argue with you about him as I could be horribly flensed in my sleep or something, but for me Meltzer introduced the new take on the Calculator but Simone took the idea and ran with it, truly making the character into something cool. That&#39;s why I listed her and not Meltzer, though he should certainly get some credit for it as the originator of the new character idea. It&#39;s true I should have at least given him a partial- mea culpa.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:30 p.m. CST

    To Professor Challenger from l Vale

    by El Vale

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Terribly sorry

    by El Vale

    Anyway Prof, she had her Wonderful tiara on, plus the bracelets...by the way, did anyone ever see my Wonder Pucca? http://tinyurl.com/psgw6 there you go, do enjoy.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Prf Challenger, RE: Vixen

    by jocutus

    If you think she looks good in the new JLA, I think she was as good or better in the Justice League cartoons. I never really thought much of her until I saw her character on JLU, but they always found interesting ways to use her powers in fight scenes and established her as a meaningful character with a relationship with Green Lantern John Stewart. Now when I read her dialogue I hear Gina Torres&#39;s voice.

  • Aug. 30, 2006, 11:38 p.m. CST

    The color wheel

    by filmcans

    Purple and green are not opposite red and green. It would be YELLOW and green.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Uhmm filmcans...

    by Prof Challenger

    May I refer you to the tenth post on this talkback where I corrected myself on the typo there. You&#39;ll note that in the very same paragraph I referred to the Red and Yellow first. The later Red and Green reference was what&#39;s called a typo where my brain got "green" stuck. And I didn&#39;t catch it till the column posted.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 12:26 a.m. CST

    ....

    by blackthought

    vixen...

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 12:38 a.m. CST

    You got your Cog in my @$$hole....

    by GreatA'Tuin

    ...yes...that&#39;s right...I went there...and so did your Mom last night

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Fell

    by AnAgentOfEvil

    Everyone who reads comics should be reading this one. I think #6 came out last week.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Supernova=Booster Gold

    by kintar0

    Came back from the future, again.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Admit it...

    by vagrant's choice

    "Writer Brad Meltzer does not disguise a nominal writing talent behind a gift for long-winded dialogue." --admit it Prof. you are talking about Bendis here. I don&#39;t disagree with your point.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    They did a "Wolverine vs. Darkness" book?

    by rev_skarekroe

    Did I fall asleep and wake up in 1997? BTW, I bought the "Thing" trade and it was good. Not the corny Peter David silliness some of the Talkbackers were making it out to be. Not the greatest superhero comic of all time either. But good.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 7:43 a.m. CST

    JUGG has a BEER and CHEETS on FUCKLER

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Brother.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Turtle

    by Thalya

    Sounds like someone&#39;s gettin&#39; Caged then.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Congrats on the review, Vale!

    by Shigeru

    You sound like a more youthful Vern. *** superhero, thanks for the Spidey loves MJ review, I love that book. But Miyazawa&#39;s leaving??! NOOOOO when?

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Meltzer Sucks

    by mattb127

    Dude. Could that issue be more boring? And what the hell is up with &#39;Arsenal?&#39; He&#39;s a bargain basement Robin. With some kind of soul patch on his chin. I mean, seriously, BATMAN has a hard time fitting in around the giants. Um, Arsenal? And by the way, is any one picking up on the fact that the "Justice" series seems to be an answer to "Identity Crisis?"

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Meltzer

    by Shigeru

    needs to cut it the heck out with all those different narration panels. I guess that&#39;s what happens when you are used to writing internal monologues in novels, but um comics aren&#39;t novels.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Next week&#39;s Y the Last Man

    by Shigeru

    Good news: no pointless, no one cares, all-Alter issue. Bad news: still feels like BKV is panicing a bit about 11 issues left. Still good tho. *SPOILERS*: everybody dies.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 9:40 a.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Awsome guest review, Vale...

    by loodabagel

    You&#39;re king of the cogs, man. Too bad that wasn&#39;t the Lady Death/War Angel review from last week. You know, so we could see the lovely cover.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 11:04 a.m. CST

    I&#39;ve always wondered...

    by nofate

    if the artists on Grant Morrison&#39;s books take the same drugs he does in order to understand what the hell he&#39;s writing. "OK Andy, in this panel Batman is attacked by a bunch of Man-Bat ninjas" Andy-"WHAT? Oh wait (pops a light colored pill). Oh yeah, I totally share your vision". Oh, and before I forget, a quick shout out to The Heathen. Ditto my friend, our little back and forth last week was by far the best comics related conversation I&#39;ve had in these talkbacks. Too bad Sleazy&#39;s ignorant ass felt compelled to chime in.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Yeah, but Vale, where&#39;s the zombies...

    by GreatA'Tuin

    Seriously, that book would have been tits with a zombi-pocalypse.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 11:25 a.m. CST

    kintar0...that&#39;s been my guess about Supernova too...

    by superhero

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Mattb, check out my JUSTICE review from last month...

    by superhero

    I completely believe that JUSTICE is Ross&#39;s reaction to Identity Crisis. I&#39;m with you on that one.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Miyazawa&#39;s leaving the book in November, I think...

    by superhero

    See more details here: http://www.tokyopop.com/383.html Hey, at least he&#39;s doing it to follow his dream. Good for him! I wanna go to Japan SO badly...

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Way to go, Vale.

    by The Heathen

    My penis was impressed (now there&#39;s an AICN Cogism for ya). I eagerly await

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Thanks, nofate

    by The Heathen

    Good to know there can be conversations on AICN where someone isn&#39;t challenged to a wrestling match, huh? Although we had different opinions I too feel we presented our sides and did so well. Don&#39;t be too hard on Sleazy. I can understand much of his non content for the situation (being the Daredevil/Batman crossover), but later on he did say that Bendis was a stand up guy for having apolagized and he wasn&#39;t aware of that until then. Thanks again though man.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    All Hail El Vale.....

    by Psynapse

    &#39;Cuz you must admit that was THE funniest review up this week. In other news, I HATE YOU ALL (But really only because with the death of the 11 year old Raver Neon I can&#39;t buy any comics until I have a new set of wheels). Still, you are all bastards for tormenting me with your insolent comic reading-ness. Bunch-a goddamn demon spawned butt-baby bastards ye be....

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 1:23 p.m. CST

    "You sound like a more youthful Vern"

    by El Vale

    OMFG *dies so much* Best compliment ever, i&#39;m gonna go cry.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Seriously, you people are awesome

    by El Vale

    Thanks for all the kind words. By the way, i "picked up" JLA this week and then when i realized it was like 40 pages of 6 different sets of caption boxes talking about a bunch of characters i don&#39;t know, i went "I&#39;m not reading that!". And now that you guys mention zombies and Y: The last man, i&#39;m gonna go see if they&#39;re available for download now. See you in a minute.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Not to worry Psy..

    by Thalya

    I&#39;m doubly motivated to churn out fanfic issue #2 over the weekend now so at least you might have some quasi-comicy goodness to read.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 2:21 p.m. CST

    ...kicks 7 kinds of handicapped @ss

    by vagrant's choice

    Based on the positive press here I picked up Wasteland #2. I didn

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Wasteland and X-Men

    by The Heathen

    The first issue didn&#39;t really capture me. Haven&#39;t picked up the second though. And in a slip up I actually had the first issue of Carey & Bachalo&#39;s X-Men in my file and decided to leave it. Gave them the benefit of the doubt you know? Bad decision. Horrible stuff. Maybe if Bachalo wasn&#39;t so bad the script wold make some sort of sense, but I couldn&#39;t stand it. Just like when Liefeld did those two Teen Titans issues with Gail Simone writing I guess.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Now that summer is just about over...

    by ComputerGuy68

    got tons of stuff to catch up on! Oh and good work El Vale!

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    My JLA take

    by Uncle Festering

    Is that what was happening in JLA? I kind of read it differently....granted I read it with a pint of maker&#39;s mark sitting next to me....so I could have mis-read it...but. I kind of got the impression the holy trinity of bats, supes and wonder broad were recruiting a league, and GL and BC were recruiting a league of their own. Maybe that doesn&#39;t make much sense...but it doesn&#39;t seem to me that Hal Jordan would be the type to sit around wait for the big three to make their choices and then be the errand boy to go recruit. Oh and that last issue of the Daredevil arc where Foggy is alive prompted me to ebay the entire run. I&#39;m tired of lame ass "fooled ya he ain&#39;t really dead" story arcs. I wonder if the big two publishers ever thought that maybe readership was down because they always cheat readers by telling a story only to find out its worthless to the continuity and leaves readers fleeced (I felt as jipped as I did when I saw the Daredevil movie). Guess they do it so their talentless editors and writers can recycle the same characters instead of coming up with something new. That might &#39;gasp&#39; draw in new readers and keep old ones happy. and what&#39;s with both Bats and Daredevil going off to fight poofs in Europe. JEEZUS this shit is getting lame....I&#39;m gonna start reading books without pictures soon

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 2:48 p.m. CST

    "Robert Altman directing a Star Wars movie."

    by The Heathen

    I&#39;ve honestly never thought of that. How bizarre that would be. Also, props to Prof. for the &#39;preeettty prettty good&#39; reference. Love, Larry David.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    interesting take, festering

    by The Heathen

    I thought that when the trinity brought up Hal&#39;s pic and agreed on him (after Bruces discern not to have him in - I&#39;ll get to that in a moment) that the next page where Hal is with Roy meant that he was already in. Because after the main three, Hal is the man to go to in my opinion. But I can see why you might think otherwise. The two different covers also would lead to some sort of split with those that were with Hal (Roy, Black Lightning, Green Arrow, Black Canary) were on one cover and the trinity with others were on the other. Hmm? I hope that&#39;s not the case, but you never know. Thalya? And about Batman and Hal? That WAS resolved more or less in the GL issue drawn by Van Sciver (#9?) where Bruce tried on the power ring and made amends with Hal. Maybe Meltzer should have read that one. That was the only thing the bugged me really. Despite what people are saying about all the captions, I found it to be some good stuff. I think many would agree that we don&#39;t always need rock em sock em robots if the characters are handled well. Despite that one editorial mishap of Batman and Hal they were.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    OMFG

    by El Vale

    Heath is really Larry David!

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 4:08 p.m. CST

    hot damn...

    by blackthought

    larry david! heathen you tricked us all!

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST

    You&#39;re on to me

    by The Heathen

    Yep, I&#39;m Larry David. "Juuudayyyy!!! It&#39;s JUDY!!!" The wife says she hates to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm because it reminds her too much of what I&#39;ll be like when I&#39;m that age. I think I&#39;m personally ahead of Larry David when he was my age, at least in uncomfortable situations and things like that. I keep a bunch of spare change with me so I can throw it on the ground if I&#39;m approached by a bum because they always approach me for some reason. I&#39;ve yelled at one because he came up to me twice in two weeks with the same story and i was like. "Look. I&#39;ve heard it already buddy. I gave you a few bucks before and wished you the best. But do you even remember that? Noooo. Do I look like I can afford to give you my money?I&#39;m skinny and pale with Diabetes. Do you have Diabetes? I don&#39;t think you do. I&#39;m preeetty, pretty sure you do not. THANK YOU." I&#39;ve also been asked THREE times while driving my car if I wanted to by home theater speakers. WTF? The last time I yelled at the guy. "Why? Why me? What is it about me? Do I look stupid enough to follow you to a parking lot? Do you really think I believe that you have &#39;extra&#39; speakers and that I can get a home theater for $50 bucks?" He replies,"Fuck you, ass." "No - fuck

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    AHH, TIT MOUSE!!!

    by The Heathen

    that is all.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    heathen you my caucasian

    by Darth Kal-El

    man i cant really watch that show either. it kind of bugs me how much trouble and nonsense he gets up to. my dad loves it tho

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Heath

    by El Vale

    My aunt is a sociologist and she&#39;s worked with a lot of welfare institutions and such, worked with a lot of homeless people and they always tell her they know to approach certain people by just looking in their eyes. Sounds corny, but it&#39;s true, like they can tell if you&#39;re a nice guy just by looking in your eyes. So basically what i&#39;m trying to say is you don&#39;t fool me, mister, you&#39;re too nice!

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    I understand that....

    by GreatA'Tuin

    ...I am the only person who fucking HATED Seinfeld, but seriously, I do not get the appeal of fucking Curb Your Enthusiasm. I seriously want to croak every person on that show. My buddy always Tivos that shit and tries to get me to watch the whole show under the guise of "you gotta see this one scene, let me find it". JUGG FUCKLERS!

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    re: My JLA take

    by Prof Challenger

    I don&#39;t get that "take" on it at all. I side with Heathen on that. Seemed clear to me that Meltzer was time-jumping a bit and showing us the Trinity&#39;s process of choosing the first level of the team (like Hal) and then sent them out to recruit the others (like Roy). I don&#39;t expect there to be two teams though. I expect that there will be a core team of 6 or 7 and then, like JLU, the rest of the heroes are "on call" as needed.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    You are not alone O Divine Turtle.....

    by Psynapse

    I LOATHED Sienfeld and DESPISE Curb your enthusiasm. Mainly because if I knew anyone that acted like those characters do I would knock the shit out of them quite often. I

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    like some of sienfeld

    by Darth Kal-El

    tho by no means a huge fan but cant really stand curb. your right psy associating with people like that would run you a high risk of ending up in a jail cell. which reminds me-its been a year since my last run in with the law- be careful out there this weekend everyone. cops will be out with sobriety checkpoints and other such ways to make your long weekend hell. if u dont believe me look through the talkbacks from last year when i was arrested at a sobriety checkpoint(COMPLTELY SOBER, those sons of bitches!!!!) anyways,yeah curb sucks. stay safe. fuck the po-po

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Hey I&#39;ve associated with MANY a type...

    by Psynapse

    likely to land my ass in jail but none of them were so shallow, puerile, and plain ass annoying like those Seinfeld fucks. Career and part-time criminals I can handle (and have-badump-bump!) but annoying pseudo-intellectuals? Fuck that noise in it&#39;s ear.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 6:15 p.m. CST

    ...those seinfeld fucks

    by Darth Kal-El

    should be the tagline for the new dvd set

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Big Seinfeld fan

    by El Vale

    So fuck you.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Hurray mattb127

    by Homer Sexual

    I think I&#39;ve been on the same page with you before, but I am heartened to see other posters who dislike Meltzer&#39;s writing. I find him stodgy and misogynistic. Now, what is da bombolino is Kraven&#39;s Last Hunt. Why buy a hardback when a GN is already available, I don&#39;t know. But that is one kick-ass story, and I am not even a Spider-Man fan. As someone who LOVED Daughters of the Dragon, and PowerMan/Iron Fist back in the day, I was mildly disappointed by Heroes for Hire #1, but I think that is primarily because of the obligatory Civil War crap, and secondarily because Tarantula isn&#39;t much of a character at this point. Still, an entertaining and above average comic I&#39;d recommend. Wonder Woman is a&#39;ight but I preferred Rucka&#39;s run. I got no love for Donna Troy, so the white suited Diana at the end was the best part--loved her when she was out of WW togs during Meissner-Loeb&#39;s run as well. 52 was decent, I enjoy it&#39;s hopping around storylines approach, but didn&#39;t get that into the Marvel wedding shindig. Eternals is very interesting to me, but kind of a carbon copy of the original Supreme Power, where the entire series exists only to introduce us to the characters who will probably not unite until the end of the final issue (of the mini).

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Not exactly a big Seinfeld fan.

    by Homer Sexual

    But that&#39;s just because some episodes were boring and the end was horrible. I love Curb, and fear I am just as puerile and annoying as Jerry and Elain (but not as annoying as George or Larry).

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    not saying seinfeld is a bad show

    by Darth Kal-El

    its decently funny. ive never been one to follow it. in truth i just catch it on reruns when there is nothing else to watch.

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 8:33 p.m. CST

    i was just reading

    by Darth Kal-El

    in my new xbox magazine about the upcoming superman returns game for 360. apperantly,besides being able to fight metallo,mongul and brainiac there is also a mini game in which u can play as bizarro! the object of the game is to DESTROY metropolis instead of saving it! Suweet!

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Darth, now that right there...

    by Thalya

    ..is totally tits. Playing as Bizarro that is. Shame I&#39;m not likely to be an Xbox buyer.. And Heathen, I think the Batman/Hal thing was more or less resolved, but it doesn&#39;t mean Bruce still can&#39;t hold a grudge. I mean, he&#39;s still holding one over Hawkman moreover, and thank goodness the Big Three didn&#39;t bring up Zatanna. I can forgive Meltzer for doing that, moreover, because he needed a lead into Hal/Roy. And also, are you referring to the old cover design or the new cover design for JLA #1, &#39;cause they played switcheroo a bit (and what&#39;s Hourman doing on the cover anyway?).

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 10:23 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Anyone besides Thal and me

    by El Vale

    Really excited about Bru and Phillips&#39; Criminal? Warren Ellis described it as "Good. Really fucking good".

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m excited about wha?

    by Thalya

  • Aug. 31, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Haha

    by El Vale

    As always, i was kidding...because i was loving.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:41 a.m. CST

    RE: Big Seinfeld fan

    by Psynapse

    "So fuck you." Gee Vale, I didn&#39;t know you were sweating me like that. I mean, I&#39;m flattered but considering the distance between us it might be a bit difficult y&#39;know? I know we agreed we&#39;d keep that weekend in Cancun from the other Cogs but I guess you&#39;ve decided our forbidden love must see the light of day.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:53 a.m. CST

    That Superman Returns game...

    by Shigeru

    sounds like Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (the one with the Bryan Hitch cover). It puts you as Hulk in the middle of a fairly giant city, and you can run up the side of buildings, thunderclap ambulances until they blow up, and head-butt pedestrians until they die. Also you can throw tanks at giant robots. Did I mention that game is the tits?

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    What&#39;s come over you, Vale?

    by Thalya

    I mean, the past coupla weeks or so all the bile&#39;s drained out of your posts. Your liver didn&#39;t explode, did it, hon? ;)

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 9:51 a.m. CST

    I know Vale&#39;s hearts been broken recently, so maybe...

    by loodabagel

    he&#39;s softened up. I hate to seay it, but ut sounds like a good time of the day for Dildo to come around. Also, with all the praise we been givin&#39; the guy for his reviews, he&#39;s ridin&#39; the high horse, so to speak.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Criminal and the homeless

    by vagrant's choice

    The Criminal preview in Walking Dead was really good. Ed Brubaker said to imagine the captions as a voice over in a movie trailer and damned if that didn

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Curb Your Justice League of America

    by The Heathen

    First off, I love Curb Your Enthusiasm but hated it before I saw it and got a feel for it. I&#39;ve heard and felt the same about shows like Firefly, Entourage and Battlestar Galactica (still haven&#39;t really watched that last one though). Seinfeld was the greatest sitcom ever before Arrested Development aired and showed us pure genius. Having said that Seinfeld is great, it did however have a series finale that makes me cry because it was so bad. I don&#39;t even like to acknowledge that it exists. Same goes for Friends finale. Crap. You know what sitcom had a great end? Mother fuggin Frasier. But that&#39;s for another time. ; ) *** Thanks for saying that I&#39;m nice, Vale. Although I share some similarities with Larry David, I don&#39;t think that I&#39;m the over exaggerator that he is, nor am I as selfish

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Word, vagrant.

    by The Heathen

    I work in an area where there are about 5 &#39;regulars&#39; and of those, one is really nice and sweet and always has a smile on her face and not in a doped up way even. Which I admire her for because it must be hard. Then there is the other end of the spectrum. There is this one that walks around with a teddy bear barking at people and cars

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST

    periwinkle blue

    by Thalya

    piker

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    And now for something completely tasteless...

    by Psynapse

    Q: Why did the fag keep bringing used condoms into work?****A: Hey he liked to pack his lunch!

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Well I don&#39;t know about completely tasteless..

    by Thalya

    They had to have been kinda salty, right?

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 12:01 p.m. CST

    ftw

    by Shigeru

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST

    uuaww man

    by The Heathen

    heh.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Another swipe at Bendis, eh?

    by Ribbons

    "Writer Brad Meltzer does not disguise a nominal writing talent behind a gift for long-winded dialogue." Anyhoo, "Justice League of America" is a really appealing book. My hope is that it&#39;ll hook younger audiences as well as (possibly?) people who enjoy Meltzer&#39;s novels. The fact that the series is off to a good start doesn&#39;t hurt either, although I could&#39;ve done without the Climactic Juxtaposition of Several Concurrent Scenes a la &#39;The Godfather&#39; and "Identity Crisis" at the end.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 12:55 p.m. CST

    What&#39;s come over me?

    by El Vale

    I don&#39;t wanna be percieved as an asshole because that&#39;s not who i am in real life. Plus, isn&#39;t it easier being nice? Hugs for everyone. PS: Thal....eewwww.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST

    shig

    by Darth Kal-El

    the hulk game is indeed the tits! talk about some great stress relief(that is until butchering zombies came along) i also highly recomened the ultimate spider man game which actually follows the continuity of the comic. im pretty sure ive mentioned it before but its a good game worth pimping.****TGIMFF if you know what i mean!i havent bought any new comics yet but hopefully i can get out of work early and hit the store. i finished manhunter and i want to try my hand at a mini review of the trade but that will probably have to wait till the weekend

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Have I tried this one out?

    by Psynapse

    Q: What&#39;s the definition of mass confusion?****A: 10 blind lesbians on a tuna boat.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 1:40 p.m. CST

    You done did it, Psy....

    by GreatA'Tuin

    What&#39;s the WORST part about fucking a five year old? ****** Getting the blood out of the clown suit. Thank you, Goodnight!

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST

    And because NOONE asked for it....

    by GreatA'Tuin

    How do you make a five year old girl cry twice? ****** Wipe your dick off on her teddy bear.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Okay howzabout some dead baby jokes?

    by Psynapse

    Q: What&#39;s red and sits in a corner?***A: A baby chewing on a razor blade.****Q: What&#39;s green and sits in a corner?***A: Same baby 3 weeks later.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST

    wow

    by Shigeru

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Shig

    by El Vale

    I know man, i know.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    i&#39;ve never been so proud

    by Shigeru

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 3:46 p.m. CST

    *wipes tear* oh boy

    by The Heathen

    Anyway, I got Kingdom Come yesterday. I have not read it ever, but it seems as though many people, including comic writers, have referenced it a lot lately and seem to be referring to it in current books. I also read Batman, Walking Dead and Astonishing X-Men last night. All was right with the world after those three and I smiled because I still had All Star Superman to get to, but I am saving it for today.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 4:17 p.m. CST

    You want more? Okay then....

    by Psynapse

    If a truckload of dead babies is gross, and a live one at the bottoms eating its way out is grosser than gross, what&#39;s grossest of all? ***When he goes back for seconds.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Okay, okay since you asked nicely....

    by Psynapse

    Q:What do you get when you cover 4 dead babies with a piece of glass?***A: A coffee table.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST

    thats so funny that u got kingdom come

    by Darth Kal-El

    heathen i was just thinking yesterday that i need to ask u if u have read it and if not recomend u get it post haste? what other cogs are still missing their kingdom come requirement?

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST

    And that, M&#39;Lord is how we know the world&#39;s...

    by GreatA'Tuin

    fucked up! Well, played sir.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST

    aw shite, the good jokes are out...

    by blackthought

    um...Q: what is brown and sits by a computer? A: me rendering...there is not taste in that is there?

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Depends, blackthought..

    by Thalya

    Are you chocolate-flavored? *** And Darth, I&#39;ve actually read Kingdom Come. One of the first graphic novels recommended to me by our dear Psy-fi (along with COIE). I had no clue who pretty much everyone was except for the big names, but I found it pretty darn great and it really grows as all the references start to make sense. That said, I still have yet to break open Absolute Watchmen from when I got it back in January. And you may all throw rotten vegetables.... ...... ...... ...... .... ...... NOW!!!

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST

    You are in for a treat with KC, Heathen...

    by Shigeru

    "SHAZAM!" &#39;Nuff said.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Kingdom Come

    by Psynapse

    I own the original mini-series, the softcover collection AND the entire trading card set (I bought a fucking box o&#39; them bitches). IMHO (so suck it bitches) it is one of THE best examinations/deconstrcutions of the superhero scenario. Now who wants more sick ass jokes?

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Yo Shig...

    by Psynapse

    Don&#39;t you mean: "Shazam! Shazam!Shazam!! Shazam!! SHAZAM!!!"??

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    *chucks tomatoes*

    by The Heathen

    SHAME!!! Read it. And it&#39;s the Absolute? Read it now. I got the Absolute Kingdom Come (thank you Amazon price break) and it&#39;s shiny. I&#39;m going to try to break into it asap, but I have a pile of current stuff that I can&#39;t let get ahead of me.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    i&#39;m even more excited now!

    by The Heathen

    omigosh, omigosh, omigosh

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST

    capt. marvel does kick tons of ass in kingdom come

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:21 p.m. CST

    KC kicks all kinds of ass

    by Darth Kal-El

    and nutsack too! i only have the trade wich ive owned for about 6 years now. i just got it back actually from my brother who had never read it. its all dog eared and clearly read multiple times but i keep passing it on to people. ive personally read it something like 5 times and it never stops being cool.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:25 p.m. CST

    ALL-STAR SUPERMAN

    by Prof Challenger

    Hands-down, the single best issue of any comic yet published in 2006. I ain&#39;t reviewin&#39; it, but that needed to be said. And Grant Morrison may have just cinched his Best Writer @$$IE this year simply for bringing back the hot, long lost and forgotten evil neice of Lex Luthor. I&#39;m talkin&#39; about "Nasty" Luthor -- Supergirl&#39;s old arch-nemesis. Kneel everyone before the greatness of Grant Morrison. Kneel before Grant.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST

    "So that&#39;s what it feels like.."

    by Thalya

    Batman, PWNED!

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:29 p.m. CST

    No Bendis! swipe by me

    by Prof Challenger

    I&#39;d have to actually READ Bendis! comics to be able to make a dig at him. Methinks thou art a tad bit over-sensitive about your idol. Don&#39;t become a Bendis! version of a knee-jerk Byrne-bot.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST

    i was going to say

    by Darth Kal-El

    thats also one of my favorite scenes thal. and the thing at the end in the diner? ok no more spolers. i want the heathster to get the full benefit of the story. and damn heath the absolute edition? i was going to try to get that for xmas! lucky!

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST

    oh my

    by Darth Kal-El

    that is a sweet price! http://tinyurl.com/s7h7w-

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    And that one panel.. (not a spoiler)

    by Thalya

    ..that&#39;s a shout-out to the classic Teen Titans? Sweetness. (and they&#39;re just about all in red for some reason..)

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 6:49 p.m. CST

    True true, Darth

    by Thalya

    That was the Absolute Watchmen price too, give or take a buck.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m going to read it when I get home.

    by The Heathen

    I can&#39;t wait anymore.

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:09 p.m. CST

    now u see

    by Darth Kal-El

    thats using the ol&#39; cranium son!

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Waid rules. &#39;nuff said

    by Thalya

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Oh my...

    by Thalya

    Anyone seen those covers to Action Comics that look like newspapers? There&#39;s a quote from one Abraham Simpson, 92, of Springfield on this week&#39;s issue..

  • Sept. 1, 2006, 8:47 p.m. CST

    And then there&#39;s the rest of the issue.. >=D !!!

    by Thalya

  • Sept. 2, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Well, can&#39;t say you didn&#39;t see it coming

    by El Vale

    I read Kingdom Come last year and did not care for it one bit. Maybe i&#39;ll re read it some day, tho&#39;, i mean you never know.

  • Sept. 2, 2006, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Prof...

    by Ribbons

    ...uhh, for starters, he&#39;s not my idol. My wariness can be attributed to the fact that he gets roughed up (critically speaking) by the @$$holes all the time, often when the comic being reviewed has nothing to do with him, except that it&#39;s written "the way comics are supposed to be written," unlike Bendis! comics, apparently. At this point someone will say "we don&#39;t take jabs at him all the time," which is true. That&#39;s an exaggeration. But then, so is calling Bendis my idol.

  • Sept. 2, 2006, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Anyway...

    by Ribbons

    ...it&#39;s not that big of a deal.

  • Sept. 3, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 3, 2006, 11:30 p.m. CST

    *bang* *thunk*

    by Thalya

    Monday is dead! Long live Monday!

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by El Vale

    My sentiments exactly.

  • Sept. 4, 2006, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Sorry, Thalya (a Manhunter review)

    by dregmobile

    If every single cog got a chance to hand in a guest review, I&#39;d be last. Not just because I know the least about comics here, but when I review something, it&#39;s usually written down in a stream of ongiong thought, with little structure to it, and no regard for the poor sap who has to read it. < Just a warning. For this. > I got to ask what it is about this title that hooked you, Thalya - were you on board because of these first five issues - or did it happen after? Because I found this TP a very disappointing read. First up, the STORY. We don&#39;t necessarily move into the action too quickly, but there is very little presented on our lead character before the reader is forced to believe she can go toe to toe with a giant mutant beast. If I missed the reference to this lady going to the gym or attending martial arts classes, I apologise. But from what I could gather - she is some star L.A. attorney (who smokes - a lot - another reason I don&#39;t get how she can be so athletic). Granted, she makes stupid moves during battle ... but this would be true of any crime-fighter&#39;s first night on the city. So I found the turn into action very sudden. And this lazy storytelling continued throughout. There are nice touches in the narrative, like the costume in the boot of the car ... the issue about costume storage ... the briuses that hurt the next day ... these work. But then they have this woman allow her son to blow himself into a coma (almost)? And we are STILL supposed to sympathise with her? By the way, she KILLS her victims. Anyway, none of this helped with the clumsy storytelling. And the ART: most of the panels outside of any action sequence were usually way too big for what was going on. The writers could have crammed way more story into each issue. I don&#39;t think I have ever read a TP in such record time. The sidekick techno-guy was a nice addition. The references to Firestorm dying had me a little confused as I ignored Identity Crisis. The art itself had a nice grit to it, but I was mostly unimpressed. I wonder if they used Linda Fiorentino as a visual guide for Manhunter, as that is who I was picturing. If you tell me it gets better and they churn out another TP, I&#39;d probably give it a try. But I found these opening issues pretty average.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Wow. 24 hours later and still no new post?

    by dregmobile

    Either my browser is faulty or my breath really stinks ...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:10 a.m. CST

    My God dreg

    by El Vale

    Did you kill the Cogs? More tomorrow.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Time for what will probably be my only post today...

    by loodabagel

    And I&#39;m wasting it on this..."What&#39;s the difference between 100 dead babies and a Porcshe?" "I don&#39;t have a Porcshe in my garage." Also-Kingdom Come? I didn&#39;t really get it. It had it moments. Was it the best comic ever? No. But it was pretty good. As usual, Batman kicked ass. As did Captain Marvel. Badass.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Bendis love

    by The Heathen

    To be fair to our hard working @$$holes, there has been nothing but Bendis LOVE (that&#39;s right) for the past few months. Have you heard anything bad about the Ultimate Clone Saga here? Don&#39;t think so. Nothing but praise, even from Vale and he

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Hasn&#39;t anybody read Astonishing X Men...

    by loodabagel

    Possibly one of the more ass kickingly cool fight scenes I&#39;ve seen this year. Hell, it probably was the best! The only thing (sadly) that I can think of that compares to it was The Flash&#39;s vs. Superboy in Infinite Crisis.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    It was my birthday yesterday.

    by Shigeru

    What did you get me? Huh?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST

    looda

    by Shigeru

    You mean when Kitty beats the ever-loving shit out of Emma Frost? That was cool.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Happy Birthday, Shiggy...

    by loodabagel

    I&#39;d give this crappy Aquaman comic I have (because it embarasses me) but I don&#39;t have your address. So, as a gift, you don&#39;t have to own the crappy Aquaman comic.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    A Cog B-Day?!?!?!

    by The Heathen

    I had no idea, Shig! My Natalie gram will have to arrive extra fast now. Hope you had a good one man. The old MySpace didn&#39;t tell me it was your B-day either the bastard. Any fun adventures had? *** I luuuuved Astonishing looda. Kitty kicks ass. The ending confused me a little bit, but I&#39;m sure it&#39;ll be explained.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Yeah

    by Shigeru

    I&#39;m old. 26. Thanks looda and Heathen. Yeah I went to the Salem Willows, which is like a big park on the water complete with boardwalk with restaurants and an arcade and stuff. But yeah I chilled with good friends and stuffed my face, and then wasted way too many quarters on the original TMNT arcade game. And then: Skeeball!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST

    happy belated b-day shig...

    by blackthought

    and kingdom come is most excellent indeed...and dreg, i don&#39;t know how to break this but you won&#39;t be the last cog to get a review posted in this column cuz well you are not a cog...we probably should of explained what a cog and who they are when you asked or when anyone poses that question...what is a cog? hopefully one day we&#39;ll just be able to provide a link or have a wikipedia entry that fills everyone in. otherwise no biggie. and how was everyone&#39;s holiday that had a holiday? fuggin&#39; fsu beat the canes last night...season&#39;s already over.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:21 a.m. CST

    go gators

    by Shigeru

    or something

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    ORANGE!!!

    by The Heathen

    BLUE!!! *** A Cane&#39;s fan, blackthought? Oh well. at least not an FSU fan. Shig knows what that would have meant. At least you have reason to like the Canes having lived there right? Friggin Seminoles. Yeah, my brother went and watched the Gator game on pay-per-view while I stayed at home and enjoyed the silence and read Kingdom Come. I am a nerd. *** The only arcade game I love more than TMNT is the X-Men arcade game. Love them games. Hey, Kal- El, when are we (well you - soon me) going to get those on XBOX Live Arcade?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:05 p.m. CST

    X-Men Arcade and TMNT Arcade

    by Shigeru

    2 of the GREATEST. (The Salem Willows also has The Simpsons arcade game which is outstanding). I always played as Colossus, I thought his mutant power button was rad, he would just like yell and flash and explode things near him. I remember Nightcrawler&#39;s being so good, he would teleport all around the screen. Damn.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST

    "RRRAGGHHH!!!!"

    by The Heathen

    Yeah, Colossus would yell and just clean house with that! And what what&#39;s up with Wolverine&#39;s power? I would always use the arcade game as an example as to why I could &#39;shoot&#39; a ray of something from my claws when playing X-Men with my friends.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    The original TMNT!

    by Thalya

    Happy belated b-day Shig! And oddly enough, on my trip to Disney World a few weeks ago, I was waiting to get in line for Space Mountain by hanging out in the arcade right next to it and I wound up playing the old X-Men game as Colossus too! Craziness.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST

    crazy

    by The Heathen

    that we did not have meet with Psy and have some dinner!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    like my speech da?

    by The Heathen

    Vas that good? Have meet da? "RRRAGGHHH!!!!" Colossus rules.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Happy B Day Shig

    by El Vale

    I give you the gift of All Star Superman. I mean i can&#39;t buy it for you or anything but it&#39;s just wonderful. Read it and think of how i...had something to do with it, somehow, i don&#39;t know. Seriously tho&#39;, every time that book comes out, it feels like my birthday.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST

    crazy that we did not have meet!

    by Shigeru

    You sound like Borat. *** Dude T, Colossus is where it&#39;s at! Who else were the playable characters? Colossus, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Cyclops and Storm?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Sad yeah, H..

    by Thalya

    That would&#39;ve been cool. Maybe another time yet when Psy doesn&#39;t have a dying car on his hands. And Shig! Totally. Those were the characters I remember, and oddly enough, I&#39;ve seen the game around plenty of times but that&#39;s the first time I can remember ever playing it.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 1:58 p.m. CST

    My fellow Cogs

    by El Vale

    It is crazy that we did not have meet and yet are so good friends no?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Happy Belated B-day Shig

    by Darth Kal-El

    Man hell yeah the TMNT and the Xmen arcade game were so fucking awesome! i really wish we do end up getting them on xbox live.i also remember plunking quarters down madly on the micheal jackson moonwalker game but we shall never speak of that again!you know what i found out over the weekend? i dont have the patience to work my way through the first halo when there is zombies to slay or gangstas to cap(i rented saints row). heath can u just hit me with a spoiler filled rundwon of the games and the novels so i can be ready for 3?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I need a &#39;rundown&#39;

    by Darth Kal-El

    i have no idea what a rundwon is but it sounds vagely dirty. &#39;if want i can give your kitty the rundwon like is going out of style.is good da?&#39;

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Hmm

    by The Heathen

    I give you all, Highlights from the TRANSFORMERS TB (of the day, or first half of the day): --- "Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. SHUT THE FUCK UP, HATING BITCHES!" --- this has been, Highlights from the TRANSFORMERS TB (of the day, or first half of the day, or end of the day or night even)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Rundown reminds me of what we

    by El Vale

    Like to call "El brochazo". Basically...no, i can&#39;t do it. Okay, it involves the penis and the vagina and there is a sort of brush stroke.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    see im more of a

    by Darth Kal-El

    lick the canvas kind of man. but i might try that brush stroke thing next time im near a vagina

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    and this goes to prove

    by Darth Kal-El

    a theory of mine that no matter where we are conversatinally,we are never too far from sex...or the x-mansion!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    A rundown would be better than a rusty trambone no?

    by The Heathen

    Yeah, it would. Christopher Walken&#39;s great. What? Rundown? "Up his ass he hid this watch." Rusty. Pulp Fiction. Never mind. *** Y, I have come to the conclusion that I should not tell you what happens in the novels, for they are quite the adventure and short reads. If I can find them I will mail them to you even. As for the game, I will tell you what you want to know. Where are you at in the campaign? Tell me and I&#39;ll see if I can remember from there.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:02 p.m. CST

    There is also what we like to call

    by El Vale

    And this is just fucking grand, "El Pichacuerazo". Basically it is the slapping of a person&#39;s face with your penis. Tell no one.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST

    "El brochazo"

    by The Heathen

    Wife loves it. Just sayin.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:04 p.m. CST

    "El Pichacuerazo"

    by The Heathen

    I love it. Wife doesn&#39;t. Just sayin.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:08 p.m. CST

    does the wife get mad when u have it done heath?

    by Darth Kal-El

    cmon he set it up perfectly! i kid because i love. dude i am at the very fucking begining where you come down on the halo and have to ride around in the warthog. i just dont have the patience for it!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Heath

    by El Vale

    That seems to be the general concensus. But i don&#39;t know, we need more opinions on the subject.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    More "Highlights from the TRANSFORMERS TB of the hour"

    by The Heathen

    --- "I think the potential is great! C&#39;mon, fanboys...remember how Optimus was first created. Transcom 1 scanned machines and repaired the Autobots in their likenesses. And considering that the ship crashed in some desert supposedly in the US (likely New Mexico/Arizona area), how UNREALISTIC is Transcom 1 to scan a semi with that paint job?! It&#39;s pretty REALISTIC and I&#39;m waiting to see how it all comes together. --- I feel like I should be missing a geek badge or something, because I have no idea what dude is talking about. All I know is that I personally had a great time reading that one.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST

    I fucking LOVE the Halo campaign

    by El Vale

    Haven&#39;t played Halo 2 tho&#39; :(

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Not to sound like a "Newsie"

    by El Vale

    But i personally think that Transformer with the flames and the gay looks like shit. But i guess kids are really into Pimp my ride these days so it should work.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Vale

    by The Heathen

    Darth, you bastid!!! I did set it up pretty nice though. Goal. Check this site out for Halo &#39;rundowns&#39; and such. ** http://tinyurl.com/zfhlk ** Check out the three things after The Forerunners and then look at the transcipts for the Halo levels. Hope that helps. I&#39;m glad Vale loves the Halo campaign. Me too.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Rouge Mondays...

    by GreatA'Tuin

    ...or how I learned to love ME! **** you wanna know how to beat a rouge monday? Work a short shift, and get paid for a full day at $27 an hour. I...like Natie Port&#39;s tits or Tony Jaa&#39;s elbow...kick ass. (For entirely different reasons of course.)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST

    sweet!

    by Darth Kal-El

    thanks heathen! and sorry i know it was a cheap shot but i was there so i took it! like a cock to the face!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Tony Jaa&#39;s elbow son!

    by The Heathen

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST

    like you took it last night, Y?

    by The Heathen

    cheap shot! Heh, we kid because we love

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    Heath...

    by GreatA'Tuin

    ...you love cock to the face? Dude, tits I get, but hey whatever.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    To slip into the idiom of Buzz Maverik for a moment..

    by Thalya

    El brochazo? El Pichacuerazo? Are they relatives of yours, Vale?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, Buzz and his idiom.

    by The Heathen

    Turtle, we have to look out for Psy and Thal, which I&#39;m not sure either of them like cock to the face, but tits? we can all agree on tits right? Just forget about el pichacuerazo. * tegrof * Tits. Natalie Portman. Watchmen. All agreed on.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:29 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m not a cog? How do I become a cog?

    by dregmobile

    I want to be a cog. Where do I sign up? Do I have to start watching &#39;LOST&#39;? Anything to hang with you guys! Anything! I read another comic book today! Does that help? ***** YOUNG AVENGERS/RUNAWAYS #2 was ok. Got going toward the end. #3 should be great. HEROES FOR HIRE #1 was ok. Nice art, but I&#39;m just waiting for their confrontation with Cap. CABLE & DEADPOOL #31 was good. i&#39;m guaranteed at least a few chuckles from this title. i&#39;m such a loyal civil war bitch at the moment.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST

    actually

    by Darth Kal-El

    the short version is the cogs are a group of tbers who got together last year around this time to keep the column going all week long. its kind of evolved from there into the whole &#39;orbiting mansion&#39; and baked breads thing but the essence of it was to talk about comics or movies or video games with like minded individuals without having to deal with the usual AICN bullshit. we actually just recently recruited great Atuin based in large part on his posts(well what else would it be right) i dont know that were recruiting currently dreg but your always more than welcome to hang out on the tb here with us all week.we totally welcome any and all discussion.if it makes u feel any better your name has been heard around the halls of the cog mansion....

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 7:30 p.m. CST

    ah...tuesdays...

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Well ... okay ...

    by dregmobile

    All I really want is one of those shiny badges. They&#39;re cool.

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:20 p.m. CST

    *Gives dreg his Cog badge*

    by El Vale

    Hey back off, i really like this guy. Plus i&#39;m a founding member, i can do whatever i want with my badge!

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Dregmobile

    by The Heathen

    First off, Darth, there is a reason you are the primary Cog Ambassador my friend. I couldn&#39;t have said it better than your above post. And dreg, you&#39;re name has been in the mix for Cog recruits. When the hell did we get Cog Badges? Vale? Anyway, continue to hang out every week, all week is the main thing to do dreg and you seem to be doing that more, plus you&#39;re not a dick

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I will make you guys (and girl) proud ...

    by dregmobile

    I know I will. *wipes drool off badge* Shit, I&#39;m starting to feel like Arsenal in JLA #1. ***** So, has anyone read that Manhunter trade? Love it, hate it? I want to know if my feelings on it are a bit too extreme ... ?

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    ...have you guys heard this news???!!???...

    by blackthought

    bk vaughan and alphona are leaving runaways...this saddens me...

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    To be fair....

    by GreatA'Tuin

    ...someone did ask about Cog history, and no answer was presented in the TB. I can see how dreg might have got confused. Ah well, life is grand, and so are tits. (Turtle is inexplicably happy lately. Someone should hide the knives and guns, and probably get the cage ready. I&#39;m serious. I don&#39;t know what&#39;s going on, and I LIVE in this head.)

  • Sept. 5, 2006, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Go get &#39;em, dreg..

    by Thalya

    Sorry I didn&#39;t get back to you before now, but my head&#39;s been wonky and tired and stuff.. I think on Manhunter overall, the entire perspective was what hooked me: you&#39;ve got the DCU proper and then you&#39;ve got this grounded little niche of it, with a heroine who&#39;s not so much the smiling happy DC hero of yesteryear so much as she has some pretty major flaws (smoker, divorcee, certainly not the best mom around (but she&#39;s a MOM. Just how many superheroine moms are out there?)..). Plus, if anything, the first trade really just sets up her world; as things have progressed, Kate making that choice to be a Good Guy ultimately leads to self-improvement in alot of other areas of her life as well (and about the "how can she be so atheletic?" question, it was recently revealed, a couple of issues ago that she&#39;s got some JSA genes (and Ramsey as well, ooh boy)). This series was spun out of Identity Crisis and it shows (it could be why it&#39;s not your bag): I love the juxtaposition of mundane reality with big name 4-color superheroics, case in point issue 4, the Dylan Battles story; it feels like a whole paradigm shift from standard-fare DCU stuff. I&#39;m really happy swimming in all the little details and nuances Andreyko comes up with, and while there isn&#39;t much story in the first TPB, the entire series takes a slow burn so Andreyko can work in all these nuances where ultimately it&#39;s not so much individual story after individual story, it&#39;s Kate&#39;s story, and we learn a lot as she does. And speaking of Linda Fiorentino, that&#39;s the voice model I wind up using for Kate in my head, oddly enough.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    When I was reading that TP ...

    by dregmobile

    ... all I wanted to do was re-write it. I can see why it&#39;s died. I don&#39;t know if comic runs are similar to the first 15 minutes of a film in terms of how crucial they are to get the reader/viewer hooked into the story ... but if that is the case, they can only blame themselves for such a weak opening. And saying I wish I could rewrite those issues, that&#39;s because, like you, I liked certain things about the character that made her unique. Just wish it was handled better. With so many titles around, I don&#39;t have the patience. But if I see a 2nd Manhunter trade I will give it another shot, coz there is potential. ***** Also looking to actually buy and read the Identity Crisis TP. If only so I&#39;m prepped in some way for Meltzer&#39;s JLA run ...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:46 a.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:36 a.m. CST

    That&#39;s being a bit generous, blackthought.

    by dregmobile

    I&#39;d only give the Manhunter trade two stars.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Oh shit!

    by loodabagel

    Any idea when BKV and Adrian A. are planning to leave Runaways? So I know when to start crying and such. To Dregmobile-I&#39;d consider you an honarary civilian Cog, but I&#39;d say the same thing about myself.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10 a.m. CST

    Wednesday mornings suck...

    by loodabagel

    Everybody&#39;s waiting for the new talkback and I have no one to talk to! Arghh!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST

    That reminds me...

    by loodabagel

    Mdichlorians! Fuck! I fucking hate midichlorians! Motherfucker! They fucking suck!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Oh god...

    by loodabagel

    I&#39;m talkback masturbating. I hope nobody&#39;s watching.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST

    And I&#39;m not stopping until...

    by loodabagel

    Somebody else shows up or the new talkback arrives, but that&#39;s gonna have to happen within the next ten minutes...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Dude...

    by loodabagel

    I am so getting lst this week. Righteous, bro!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST

    LAST!

    by loodabagel

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I see you, looda!!!

    by The Heathen

    put that thing away!!! LAST.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Fffuuuuuccckkkkk!

    by Shigeru

    BKV and Alphona off Runaways? Man..... that sucks. WTF BKV U SUK!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, noon CST

    what Shig said

    by The Heathen

    I

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST

    It gets worse. The new X-Men group editor is

    by The Heathen

    Axel Alonso.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:18 p.m. CST

    axel alonso...

    by blackthought

    another rogue

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST

    what if the replacement writer is

    by The Heathen

    Whedon? I can see him working, but with AXM and Wonder Woman on his plate it&#39;s unlikely. Who else? Kirkman? He&#39;s writing a lot of stuff and I don&#39;t see that for some reason. Sean Mckeever?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    I dunno if I can keep reading if it&#39;s not BKV/Alphona

    by Shigeru

    I already cringe when there is an issue sans Alphona. He better pencil a high-profile book...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:32 p.m. CST

    I mean so he can get steady work and good sales...

    by Shigeru

    I have nothing against indies! Don&#39;t want to summon the Cormorant, Dave_F...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Lunchtime crunchtime...

    by loodabagel

    I got my sights set on on Miyazawi and Kirkman. Both are coming off other books in the near future.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST

    and just for the record

    by Shigeru

    this TB is #2 on the site. and a week old. yeah we rule.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Miyazawi and Fantastic Four

    by The Heathen

    Maybe on Spider-Man Loves MJ but whenever there is a Runaways issue with Miyazawi art it feels out of place. Maybe they&#39;ll keep Mike Norton for a smoother transition? I honestly don&#39;t know who would or could fill those shoes, but Whedon is the only one that I&#39;d want to see do it if it&#39;s not BKV and Alphona. *** Did anyone see the FF show on Cartoon Network this weekend? I fugured I&#39;d DVR and see what it was like and it makes the movie still look bad, but only now it had an animated companion to sit next to it. The Thing has a &#39;4&#39; logo (that&#39;s "edgier" btw) on his chest and Johnny looks like a character from any other anime movie or Final Fantasy game.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:10 p.m. CST

    the Thing&#39;s dork is edgier

    by Shigeru

    than mine.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Anybody see the leaked image for CW/Spider-Man?

    by The Heathen

    It&#39;s what we thought would happen after his identity reveal. ** http://tinyurl.com/k5ooz ** Looks like a Turner variant cover.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Hey guys, check it out

    by El Vale

    Bendis interviews Brad Meltzer. It&#39;s good reading, i promise http://tinyurl.com/gpjm9

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Gah...

    by Thalya

    And H, did you see the cover for 52 #19 just up on Newsarama?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Just saw it, T

    by The Heathen

    Cool. Pope Lobo? Can&#39;t wait to see Brian Bolland draw Animal Man&#39;s origin too. Love Bolland. Now give me the thing you&#39;ve won

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    If you can, please help...Gail thanks you

    by Psynapse

    http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=83100

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Wait, what? Bolland?

    by El Vale

    What happened?

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    That spidey image is a fake.

    by superhero

    Millar said so on his site.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    are we sure though?

    by The Heathen

    I think not. Thing is, I don&#39;t even care at this point.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:35 p.m. CST

    re:honarary civilian Cog

    by Darth Kal-El

    that hits the nail pretty close to the head

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    TONY JAA ELBOW TO THE BASTARDS!

    by GreatA'Tuin

    I&#39;m not even that pissed about it, but someone in the Jaa interview TB mentioned a "Kung Fu the Series" movie. There&#39;s an idea whose time has passed.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    That&#39;s awful, Psy

    by The Heathen

    PayPal to the rescue!!!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5 p.m. CST

    Right ON, Heath....

    by Psynapse

    I have to wait until I get paid on friday but I&#39;m sending her a few bucks too. I just have to wait until the end of October for my new car (Thank you mommy!), I can&#39;t imagine having to rebuild your LIFE.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    And just think..

    by Thalya

    ..if you got abducted to an alternate Earth.. Nah.. doesn&#39;t compare. :(

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:05 p.m. CST

    superhero

    by rev_skarekroe

    Millar isn&#39;t always Mr. Trustworthy.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    That said...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...it looks fakish to me.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST

    A Justice League of Their Own

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Starring Rosie O&#39;Donnell as Wonder Woman.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST

    BannedOnTheRun....

    by GreatA'Tuin

    ...you suck like a hoover can only dream. That&#39;s some fucked-up imagery right there. I would heckle you a second time, but i think living with an inner eye that can come up with that shit is a far, far worser fate. X^P

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Then again.....

    by Psynapse

    If Rosie&#39;s WW, then that would make Batman & Robin Rodney Dangerfield and Patton Oswald. How funny would that be? (Joker is Joan Rivers in this reality, naturally)

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 6:56 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Oh, I don&#39;t doubt that MJ or Aunt May is gonna bite it

    by superhero

    I just think that particular image is a fake. Looks like it was taken from an old Spidey book or something.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Yeah. It&#39;d be an underwhelming cover if it was real.

    by dregmobile

    The moment I looked at it, I thought &#39;fake&#39;. Also the first thing I think when looking in the mirror, but never mind ...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I wish I knew what this was from...

    by loodabagel

    But, yeah, it looks quite fake. And probably not even a Turner cover. I know it&#39;s only one not too distinctive picture, but I&#39;m thinking something more along the lines of Paul Pope or Kaare Andrews. It might be from one of the other Spidey titles. There&#39;s a new Mysterio running around in Friendly Neighborhood, so that seems like a fair bet.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Unless somebody else pops up in the night...

    by loodabagel

    Looks like I get to say, yet again, LAST!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    And lastly,

    by dregmobile

    Thanks for the link to that Bendis/Meltzer intv, Vale. Very interesting read. Am now looking into how to purchase this elusive JLA Avengers crossover ...

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Financially elusive, that is ...

    by dregmobile

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:54 p.m. CST

    your not getting last this week

    by Darth Kal-El

    and u didnt last week either looda. the &#39;last&#39; post has been a fiercely contested spot for over a year now with blackthought and absent cog in reserve gus nukem. gus would go post &#39;last&#39; on columns MONTHS old. that was a tough fucking greek! where are u gus!

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I doubted it myself...

    by loodabagel

    And I came across a last match a while back. I was googling something and came across an old one. I added a last a month or so after Gus. And maybe Gus is just time traveling now? Sounds like a sneaky dude.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Time Traveling!

    by Darth Kal-El

    we didnt think of that though its highly possible knowing gus. just to give u an idea of how sneaky this dude is when the cogs first started getting together we all excahnged RL pictures to we could have an idea of who we were talking to. well gus send this link to some old greek guy and says its him. later he posts something saying &#39;thats not me thats a pedophile in greece who would dress up like a clown and molest kids&#39; to this day we do not know for sure if that was indeed him or not. ahh good times! vale thinks hes dead. i would rather think hes off adventuring. so yeah time travel sounds good

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:21 p.m. CST

    "would dress up like a clown and molest kids"

    by El Vale

    LOL! That totally made my...night. Crazy fucking greek...oh jesus, i just thought of something: What if that was really him and they caught him and he&#39;s in jail?! Not cool man, not cool.

  • Sept. 6, 2006, 11:23 p.m. CST

    No prob dreg

    by El Vale

    Those Bendis interviews are great. Next week Bendis interviews Patton Oswalt, should be great. I love how Oswalt would just drop names like Bendis or Elijah Snow in talkshows...it made me feel proud.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:03 a.m. CST

    molest indeed

    by blackthought

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 5:29 a.m. CST

    JLA...

    by Drcool975

    was awful. I know the Vision and Red Tornado are contemporary characters with similar origins but the Vision is the infinitely more interesting of the two. And DC&#39;s black characters really suck and they always have. As a proud black man, I appreciate their attempts to incorporate diversity into the JLA but Black Lightning&#39;s introduction into the team comes off as nonsensical and forced. DC has always been way behind Marvel in terms of diversity and well-developed characters of color. And Benes weak David Finch ripoff is inconsistent and lacking in dynamic too.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Well at least....

    by Psynapse

    You get to be annoyed by the forced and nonsensical inclusion of a character from your social stratum.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Good morning, cogs and fellow not-so-cogs...

    by loodabagel

    In a room with a few Myspace goons. The ones with really fancy looking pages. They really have nothing to say. They&#39;ve got all this extra large conversations wher they say absolutley nothing! It pisses me off, man. Wasted potential if there ever was some. It&#39;s good to be here.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Natalie Portman is now my girlfriend

    by Shigeru

    just to let you know. the wife is fine with it too.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 11:14 a.m. CST

    that cover looks fakish becuase it IS a Turner cover

    by The Heathen

    or not, doesn&#39;t matter really, because one way or another it&#39;s probably going to happen, even if a draw the cover. *** Benes is better than Finch, but he also has a better colorist. *** looda, explain to me your last post. I&#39;m Lost. *** Speaking of which, did anybody pick up the second season yet? Maybe Shig did, but he&#39;s probably busy with Natalie.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Nat keeps a brother busy.

    by Shigeru

    But I will start LOST Season 2 as soon as it comes in the mail. Apparently it&#39;s a birthday present from the inlaws that they haven&#39;t shipped yet... *grumble*

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:30 p.m. CST

    i saw it at the video store

    by Darth Kal-El

    but i was daunted by the massive six disc-ness of it and decided to continue working my way through the superman animated show and samurai jack season 3. i dont think im ready to revisit the island just yet.man saints row is fun! i even got recruited into a gang online.i dont have the hear to tell them its only a rental and i wont be around to &#39;cap some fools&#39; for too much longer

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    *waits for answer*

    by The Heathen

    Ooh Samurai Jack. Love it. I feel ashamed for not having bought those gems yet. I did get the first season of Veronica Mars though. A lot of tv sets are going for $18 bucks, check it out. Y, in Saints Row you should go out in a blaze of glory and leave the gang wondering if you took it too literal. And man, I&#39;m dying to go try that thing out that Shig showed us in Dead Rising. That was Mega Man&#39;s arm cannon thing right? If only we had his double jumping capabilities too!

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2 p.m. CST

    i was thinking that would be funny

    by Darth Kal-El

    then i can have all these dudes online pouring out virtual liquor for me. yeah that 60k thing looks awesome! man i love slaying zombies. and heath when are u going to get on live buddy? xbox live araced has such sweet games!

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    new columns up

    by Shigeru

    psy: uh maybe? Heath: megaman never double jumped did he?

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:16 p.m. CST

    the double jump

    by The Heathen

    in a manner of sense, yes, but not really. There was this code where if a person held the second controller and held down certain buttons (I think UP on the D-Pad and A+B) you could SUPER jump two to three times as high. So not technically a double jump ala Ghosts N Goblins, but cool none the less. Whew. *** Soon, Y, soon. We&#39;re looking to FINALLY get our house wired. I let you know.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:17 p.m. CST

    btw

    by The Heathen

    last.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST

    last-ish

    by Shigeru

    what would be better would be if you had the weapons from the bosses from Mega Man 2. Like the Metal Blade and ummmmm the BUBBLE LEAD!! That&#39;ll get them zombies!!

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Metal Blade wold tear &#39;em up!!!

    by The Heathen

    lasty?

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    &quot;wold&quot; jebus!!!

    by The Heathen

    way to end it Heath. LAST.

  • Sept. 7, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST

    wtf

    by Darth Kal-El

    i cant see the new column!

  • Sept. 12, 2006, 9:53 a.m. CST

    C'mon man...

    by loodabagel

    It's just a little friendly competition.

  • Sept. 8, 2006, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Here it comes...

    by loodabagel

    Last.

  • Sept. 13, 2006, 6:18 p.m. CST

    goal

    by blackthought

    ...um...goal.

  • Sept. 14, 2006, 9:57 a.m. CST

    goooooooooooooooal...

    by loodabagel

    Now I am the one who has scored a goal.

  • Sept. 17, 2006, 1:25 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

    ...

  • Sept. 18, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    ...

    by loodabagel

    ... yourself, sucka. I am the throne usurper of lasting.

  • Sept. 19, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST

    ...

    by loodabagel

    .............................. ............ . ........ ...... ........... ........ ........................ ........................... ........

  • Sept. 20, 2006, 9:25 a.m. CST

    ...

    by loodabagel

    .......!

  • Sept. 26, 2006, 7:32 a.m. CST

    ...

    by kernunrex

    [i]test[/i]<i>test2</i>[b]test3[/b]<b>test4</b><font color="blue">test5</font><a href="http://google.com">google.com</a>[url=http://google.com]google.com2[/url]

  • Oct. 3, 2006, 9:20 a.m. CST

    ...

    by loodabagel

    Who do you think you are?

  • Oct. 5, 2006, 1:27 a.m. CST

    ... .

    by dregmobile

    READ IT AND WEEP!

  • Oct. 6, 2006, 9:55 a.m. CST

    ... ..

    by loodabagel

    ... ...

  • Oct. 8, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Other readers saw in the

    by jaxnnux

    Other readers saw in the novella echoes of Charles Darwin, who earlier in the century had challenged the long-held religious belief in God’s creation of the universe. Darwin had claimed that life-forms developed as a result of evolution, the extremely slow and gradual changes species underwent in response to their environments. Gone was the certainty of the religious model of life. It was replaced by social Darwinism, a radical new conception of life as a struggle in which only the fittest survived. Some readers considered Hyde to be a model of the strong yet evil individual who would survive while Jekyll fell. Hyde was the natural man, free of the civilizing influences of society and religion. Stevenson himself had received an extremely strict religious upbringing, which emphasized sin and the punishments of hell. He seems to have reacted against this upbringing, and the conflict between religion and science probably interested him greatly. Still other readers found in Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde a reflection of the new ideas about the workings of the human mind. A Viennese doctor named Sigmund Freud had begun the investigations that would lead him to create psychoanalysis, a method of analyzing psychic phenomena and treating emotional disorders. Freud believed that human beings are powerfully influenced by impulses of which they are not aware and which are often expressed in dreams. To many readers, Hyde represented Dr. Jekyll’s subconscious desire to be freed from his society’s restrictions.

  • Oct. 9, 2006, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Fascinating, but i'd like to add the following:

    by dregmobile

    ... ... .