Aug. 23, 2006, 8:34 a.m. CST
But only because it is not put out by Fox.
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:45 a.m. CST
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:45 a.m. CST
A reviewer who isn
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST
Shame, it sounds like a waste.
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST
Thats a fact! There are exceptions to that rule though and I am talking about Hustle & Flow, and 8 Mile, and 8 Mile was decent at best and Get Rich or Die Tryin? I say Fuck you to that worthless movie.Also, Friday doesn't count, it is a comedy not a serious movie. Rappers have a hard time pulling off their emotions and their problems on screen. Roll Bounce was not about rap it was about Soul and Funk and that movie wasn't great it was pretty good though. ATL? Don't even start there, that movie is a let down plain and simple. Those movies make it hard to feel for those characters and hard to understand what they are going through. Hustle & Flow makes you feel and you really do feel for D Jay and you know somthing bad is about to happen to him and when that thing happens you feel fucking terrible for him but it is all perfect. Fuck halfass Rap movies make great Rap Movies and everything about Rap will get better and the movies themselves will get better.
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST
What are you retarded? Harry is too afraid of getting knocked out of his wheelchair at Hollywood parties to criticize anyone but Brett Ratner or Fox Studios.
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST
is still my favorite OUTKAST album
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:54 a.m. CST
In case you didn't know it I was being sarcastic. Thanks for helping me avoid what sounds like a crapfest.
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:56 a.m. CST
Because you know you can't wait to see Eddie Murphy singing!
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:58 a.m. CST
by Massawyrm 1
...is like, one of the only parts of the 80's I DON'T want to relive, thank you very much. At least with "Boogie in your Butt" he was trying to be funny. jesus Christ.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST
I can think of 100s of things about the 80s best forgotten... pink Spandex, shoulder pads, Flock of Seagulls, hockey hair...
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:02 a.m. CST
by Massawyrm 1
...but I'd willingly trade all that to see girls in Leg warmers and plastic braclets again....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:08 a.m. CST
by Abin Sur
I much prefer the melodies of Don Johnson to Eddie "My Girl Wants to Party All the Time" Murphy, thank you very much.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:14 a.m. CST
by Massawyrm 1
and give me Patrick Swaze's "She's like the wind through my tree" an day!
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:15 a.m. CST
by heywood jablomie
Seems like the only time a bad movie will get a really hard slam at this site is if it was made by, or largely featuring, Afro-Murricans. Somehow the very image of a large buck sends AICN geeks rushing back to the rec room, where they clutch their Boba Fett dolls, suck their thumbs and rock back and forth Rain Man-style.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST
I thought it looked like shit too. Better luck next time :P
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:21 a.m. CST
...I've never heard of this movie. This is actually the first time I've heard of the movie at all, [unless you count the movie poster I saw when I watched Snakes on a Plane last night, great movie btw :D] but upon hearing the synopsis on the movie, I'm very disappointed. I think Andre Benjamin is a great actor, as well as a great musician and hell I don't even listen to hip hop or the like. But he's always turned out some original musical works that have grown on me in the past, and he's shown me he can act from "Four Brothers" and some other odd movies I've never watched. But as I said the story sounded promising, a 30's era musical sounds like something I would watch. Hell I even liked Chicago, regardless of the fact it was in the 20's (right? who cares it's not like 10 years is gonna change much anyways). So yeah, pretty disappointing to hear about this.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:27 a.m. CST
as soon as I saw the preview for the first time. give me a break! Some stupid rap losers making a movie is obviously gonna suck donkey balls.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:31 a.m. CST
They should like it despite being shit because it has blacks? Thats racism. If the movie is shit (which it is) then its shit. You making a point to like it no matter what because its 'bling', or 'hola' or whatever word has been made up to suffice for the real words amongst that community is racist. So leave it to uppity negras to back their own no matter what and never recognize the hypocrisy in doing so. I'm still mad at Andre Benjamin for being the worst part of Revolver btw. Rappers need to stop trying to patch their egos with acting and fuckoff already.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:32 a.m. CST
... and Anchorite, I wouldn't consider Outkast rappers. Listen to their most popular song, Hey Ya. Is there a single bit of rapping in that song? They are some of the most creative musicians on the planet. This movie, may suck, but that doesn't mean that they're uncreative musicians. Also, saying that rappers are lazy because they don't play they're own instruments is like saying actors are lazy because they don't write, direct and edit their own films. You cannot compare someone like Jay-Z to someone like Robert Plant. The two are artists in different mediums. Mass, I'm sorry, usually I trust your reviews, but, considering how much I have enjoyed Outkast's music, I think I'll see it for the performances alone.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST
Come on, now... I didn't know Jesse Jackson was a regular on AintItCool. Actually, I really am sort-of looking forward to DREAMGIRLS... Bill Condon is good director and it should be good (provided Beyonce learns how to act).
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:40 a.m. CST
Is that "boi" is the spelling used to gay subcultures to connote an effete homosexual who takes it up the ass.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:42 a.m. CST
Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:52 a.m. CST
...if they guy who's handed the Bible before the gunfight is shot and (supposedly) killed, but it turns out the Bible in his chest pocket stopped the bullet? Is my Writers Guild membership in the mail now?
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST
by Leland Specter
There are a few rappists out there that come up with some pretty creative jives. But yeah, the rest of them are pretty much lazy and talentless. When they try to sound smart it just seems like they're reading a dictionary. Silly rappists.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:06 a.m. CST
I know you won't respond to this because your a pussy. I know you are a pussy based on your one post then you ran away. Anyway read my post above and it will prove you don't know a goddamn thing about movies.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST
You are retarded and gay for Kevin Smith.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST
What about "Well, shave my poodle!" or just "shave my poodle!"? Shouldn't they have a place in the pantheon of sayings on this site? I think you're racist for not agreeing with me on that. oooh! how about that? "I think you're racist!" That could be the new "holy mackeral" which was "too soon" which was "first".
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:09 a.m. CST
just trying it out.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
I managed to catch a screening of this and I have to say Im really surprised at the hate thats going on. While the story is formula I thought the movie was great. I liked the characters, LOVED the music, the editing during the dance sequences were brilliant, and it was distinct. So many people complain how werid it is as if thats bad. Ya would hate to see a visually distinct film. I thought it was different and fun and the title sequence is brilliant.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
...through" is the new "I think you're racist", which was the new "Holy Mackeral" which was the new "Too Soon" which was the new "First". Great line, Massa.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:34 a.m. CST
when the movie comes out. Surely someone will find it as enjoyable as I did. I love how the critics slam the music style for different and weird. Yes the last thing we want is creative music.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:35 a.m. CST
by Lost Prophet
through". As opposed to SR. Which you all loved. Christ, what a shit summer of films. Bring on 2007. BTW YB, do we get paid for this, or do we have to be properly AICN accredited? just in case: I am typing this on my IMAC, whilst listening to my what I recently downloaded from I-TUNES. I am intending to go and drink copious amounts of GUINNESS after work (I will accept payment in product) etc.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST
Nice work cutting through to the facts Massa and not hiding behind 'I love film so I'll say all films are good' platitudes. Now where did I put my ORBITZ...?
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:43 a.m. CST
Loved it. Can't say the problems in the review aren't valid, I just didn't go in expecting the next great film. Instead, it was just the most fun I'd had in a theater in a long time.
Thank you Ranson
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:46 a.m. CST
working today? Waaa? About 99% of the guy's filmog is crap. And heywood jablomie, you're a prick of the highest order.
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:52 a.m. CST
Do NOT make me break into a rendition of "All That Stuff!" because you know I will.
Aug. 23, 2006, 11 a.m. CST
by I Dunno
Harry's review was shameless even for Harry.
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:05 a.m. CST
Holy Mackeral! Too Soon! First! I think I covered it. Oh yeah... Massawyrm has a beer and cheats on his wife! Hulk Hogan should be in this, brother! And finally..Plot holes you could drive the Porkchop Express through.
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:21 a.m. CST
Not one airplane in this movie. For shame.
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST
Just read Harry's "review"/commercial! My lord, that was disgusting! I usually think you guys are a little hard on Harry, but that was just wrong! That blatant, undisguised product placement was just offensive. Especially the part about the PSP/SW-Lego game. That part just came out of nowhere. Plus how long has Harry been mentioning Yoko every introductory sentence of his reviews/reports? Is Yoko a codename, or is she really Japanese? How old is she? Do I care? Whatever. For some reason I have a deep desire to chew some ORBIT gum, while buying LEGO STAR WARS for my PSP, before watching OUTKAST in IDLEWILD.
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:30 a.m. CST
Did anyone already mention Jackie Robinson's involvement in the "Chock full o' Nuts" company? Methinks I smell rascism in the review title. SNOOGINS! Just stirring up shit ;)
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:33 a.m. CST
anyone who thinks the term "hip-hop culture" implies rascism OBVIOUSLY doesn't have the same problem in your town that I do in mine. Where fat white kids wear b-ball jerseys that are too big EVEN FOR THEM, listen to rap blaring in there shitty 1994 Corsicas, and wear chains and talk like they're tough shit. (those jerseys may, just may, fit Harry)
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST
Or are you all smoking crack. I admit that Harry rim jobs some films sometimes, but his review was definately negative and touched on most of the same points that Massa did. The only difference? Harry still found it enjoyable.
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:43 a.m. CST
Are we still doing that one? And anchorite didn't you hear? It's hard out there for a pimp...
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:43 a.m. CST
"First of all, her name isn't really Yoko, you tools. He's trying to be clever by giving her a nickname like Moriarty or Quint." Now I can sleep easy!
Aug. 23, 2006, 11:53 a.m. CST
I realize that hip-hop culture goes far beyond rap. However, I do not believe that all rappers are lazy and quite a few play their own instruments, Andre included. Others include The Roots, Gym Class Heroes, and (sorry) The Beastie Boys. I'll conceed the Plant thing, though. I never much cared too much for classic rock, so I mixed him up with Page. Also, I think quite a few people and organizations have classified Outkast into the 'rap' genre because that is how they started and people don't know what other catagory they would fit into at this point. Outkast has continually broken out of molds that they have, themselves, created on each new album and pushed the boundaries the genres that they dabble in. At this point, I think they fit a little bit in the R&B category and a little bit in the alternative category.
Aug. 23, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST
Give MF Doom a try. I guarantee it's more creative than 99.9% of the music out there. Then, if that doesn't make your head explode, move on to the Roots, Mos Def or Madlib. There's some good hip-hop out there. You just have to wade through a bunch of bitches, hoes and Cristal to find it.
Aug. 23, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST
This sounds (and looks) like Outkast's "Under the Cherry Moon". Problem is, they didn't have a "Purple Rain" first.
Aug. 23, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST
...bunch of damn dirty porch monkeys...
Aug. 23, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST
Each and every single one of you.
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:31 p.m. CST
but this movie is looking like a stinker.
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:34 p.m. CST
Outkast are pretty much one of the only acts still attempting to forge an interesting, original and creative path - after Stankonia, rather than roll out a similar follow up, they put out Speakerboxx/Love Below which as a follow up sounded like suicide yet ended up as yet another massive success. To be honest, I'm still looking forward to this flick because whether it's a failure or not, it's the product of a group at the top of their game and it should be an interesting film to check out regardless.
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST
I read an article in National Review clearly trying to sell the guy. Didn't work.
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:39 p.m. CST
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:43 p.m. CST
But there are some hidden gems that you should check out, suchas GZA/RZA's Liquid Swords & Danger Mouse & MF Doom's collaboration called The Mouse and the Mask. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST
..._glitter_, and _give my regards to broad street_, and any number of vanity musicals since, what, _that's entertainment ii_, or something. i don't doubt massa's critiques and am confident this will seem less redolent of the jazz age than some well-budgeted music video, with speaking parts. i'm also confident terrence howard belts it out the park. i mean, is this not the WORST summer for american film, ever? not to distract us from the argument at hand, but who could possibly argue it is not? it's a shame to take what you can get in the multiplexes but i'll take ambitious, atlantan failures every time over, i don't know, _step up_ or fill in the crappy blank. what else can us outkast fans say? don't quit yer day job, fellas.
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST
"I think you're racist" started as a joke to redicule heywood jablomie's needless and unwarranted cry of "white-geek"-racism. Now people are actually using racist slurs as comedy. Almost forgot this was AICN.
Aug. 23, 2006, 1:56 p.m. CST
album is pure awesome-ness, but then again an MF Doom and Dangermouse album with Adult Swim cameos was always going to be awesome.
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST
Yearn for the days of yore, when we had real artist like Little Feat; Steely Dan; EW&F, The Eagles; Led Zeppelin; Jethro Tull; The Ojays; The Dramatics; Elton John; Marvin Gaye; Stevie Wonder; War; P-Funk; Ohio Players; Todd Rundgren; The Doobie Bros.; joni Mitchell; Kate Bush; The Who; The Rolling Stones; The Beatles; etc.
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:07 p.m. CST
Yeah! I love the tracks Cross-Hair & Sofa King...Aww hell, the whole album is great and MF Doom has a flow that's reminicent of old school Rakim.
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:09 p.m. CST
What George Allen screams when he's getting reamed by Jeff Gannon. Maybe he wanted some of that bronze-skinned man love?
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST
Danger Doom - El Chupa Nibre, Old School, The Mask. Madvillain - All Caps. Mos Def - Close Edge. Black Star - Definition. The Pharcyde - Runnin'. Dead Prez - Radio Freq. Blackalicious - Make You Feel that Way. The Roots - Boom. Go to iTunes and give a few of these songs 30 seconds of your time. It may give you a better opinion of hip-hop. There's nary a mention of Cristal or 22-inch rims or any of that other crap that drags all of hip-hop into the gold-plated toilet.
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:15 p.m. CST
Mainstream Hip-Hop music is pretty embarrasing these days. Plus it doesn't help that this version of Hip-Hop has pretty much infiltrated most forms of popular media. Unfortunately the real, creative Hip-Hop artists are destined to stay "underground" or go "gangsta", as apparently everyone wants to hear songs about killing people, sports cars and ugly jewellery. As opposed to socio-polital themes, geeky references and life in general.
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:29 p.m. CST
what aboot the roots? as your live bands go, i'd say they're definitely worthy of a joni mitchell session ca. her jaco era. ?uestlove's work with the philadelphia experiement is also more accomplished, to my ears, than many of the groups you mention above. not zeppelin, tho'...never zeppelin. (btw -- am i the only person mystified by spike lee's decision to NOT include "when the levees break" into his documentary? it's all i could hear in my own mind seeing images of the aftermath of hurricane katrina...i thought zepp should have reformed to play a katrina benefit with a 50-minute version of that song alone!) on the worthy hip-hop tip, let's not forget the djs: the whole x-ecutioners fam (esp. rob swift + roc raida), q-bert, babu, premier, the late great j. dilla, kutmasta kurt, &c., &c. as for your masters of ceremony, mf doom is hype...dope, even...and his "special herbs + spices" disc with mf grimm is mf bad-ass. then there's the whole of the wu fam, outkast, aesop rock, el-p, cannibal ox, kool keith, rasco, brand nubian, de la soul, tribe called quest (once again back is the incredible tcq!), public enemy...that's just of the top of my, uh, dome. as always, no one we're hearing on "power" radio, at all...
Aug. 23, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST
Its a proven fact that black men have bigger penises then white men. Its quite obvious that mass was suffering from big black penis envy syndrome when writing his review. I can't blame him, sitting in the theater with his small white baby penis and having to confront andres, big bois and vings massive, king kong like hickery farms 8 pound summer sausage like black penises. Stop the hate of the mighty black penis!
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST
want to be president, so he decided to bow out gracefully?
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST
to stir his caca. Oh ... Oh ... Macaca!!!!
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:36 p.m. CST
Ohh ... uh. UH ... Ohhhh .. oh yeah ... ogod ... ogod .... uh ... maca ... maacaaa .... uh ... no! Too Soon!
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:44 p.m. CST
That sucks that she doesn't have much to do. She was awesome in Spider Man.
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST
First of all, I don't like typing your name. Secondly, are African penises the same size as the North American variety? And are black penis sizes uniform across the United States, or do they vary regionally?
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:54 p.m. CST
If she can convince people she's not high, that's what I'd call an awesome acting job. In fact, she should win an academy award for pretending not to be high all the time.
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST
Yes, especially Jeff Gannon's. He has a friggin rocket that even black men envy. George Allen is one lucky man.
Aug. 23, 2006, 3:58 p.m. CST
...on it. Like Pitman, for example: www.pitmanworld.com
Aug. 23, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST
You think rappers are lazy?! You try make FIVE BEATS A DAY for THREE SUMMERS!
Aug. 23, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST
by 'Cholera's Ghost
Word. One of my favorite albums of all time.
Aug. 23, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST
It looks like the worst movie ever deficated onto a screen. There is no way I'll see this, even on late nite TV. I'd sooner read the National Review than listen to this movie soundtrack. Pure and utter crap.
Aug. 23, 2006, 5:23 p.m. CST
Great review this time. I knew this movie would be terrible.
Aug. 23, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST
This is the part of the thread where the 30-something white boys drop some names to show how they appreciated "real" rap back in the day when it didn't suck. Me, I like Wiley. See, I'm, uh, down.
Aug. 23, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST
I leave this TB for a few hours and I come back to hear anchorite praising the mighty black penis and people wanting more Macy Gray! Ok ok, I know the Macy Gray statements were tongue in cheek, but don't jinx it. I really could live without hearing, seeing Macy Gray until I leave this mortal coil.
Aug. 23, 2006, 5:48 p.m. CST
"without hearing or seeing Macy Gray AGAIN" I really don't wanna die and then have to spend an eternity in the company of Macy Gray. That would truly be Hell!
Aug. 23, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST
She sounds like she has one, at least. Penis!
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST
You have some, uh, butter on your mouth. Heh.
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST
Outkast are a fuckin' mess to begin with with about a half second attention span. these "black" movies need to get past the cliches which they fall into every single time. It's like they're banking on their audience to be the mentally stunted black teen who just wants to see asses shaking and numbnuts firing guns. I want to see an intelligent black film made by a skilled black filmmaker for once this decade!
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:12 p.m. CST
Come on. That's the black movie everyone wants to see. Who would you cast in it?
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:22 p.m. CST
by Jack Burton
I was looking forward to this when the trailers first appeared the end of last year. I guess it was delayed for a reason.
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST
Why was the headline changed from bullshit to bullpoo?! What a bunch of fucking peepee-heads!
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:51 p.m. CST
Oh come on even if you dont like the story the movie is visually amazing so he is at the least a talented filmaker. For crying out loud the titale sequence alone is so cool.
Aug. 23, 2006, 6:52 p.m. CST
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:08 p.m. CST
thought i tell ya
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:17 p.m. CST
I enjoyed was Love Jones.
Aug. 23, 2006, 8:51 p.m. CST
Andre 3000 hasn't made any secret of wanting to fulfil his record contract ASAP, so he can get out of music altogether and get into acting.
Aug. 23, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST
Ill go see this in the theaters. OutKast is a truly revolutionary group and has produced some of the best music I have ever heard in my lifetime. You dont have to agree with me. Just my humble oppinion. 2008(nothing to do with OutKast)
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
The Remote Part was awesome!
Aug. 23, 2006, 10:38 p.m. CST
hahahahahaha....its got a funny sound......bullpoo bullpoo...its almost magical *tear*
Aug. 24, 2006, 12:26 a.m. CST
by The Ender
Aug. 24, 2006, 1:58 a.m. CST
...does not equal "creative." being different and weird just make it ...different...and, uh, weird.
Aug. 24, 2006, 2:28 a.m. CST
enclosing all the earlier articles in a spoiler warning frame? does this have a higher meaning?
Aug. 24, 2006, 1:03 p.m. CST
...but it's pretty amazing how quickly they've devolved to shit. Grow some balls guys and stop using the Outkast name because all it is is a pair of over-indulgent, unfocused solo careers stapled together using the brand name.
Aug. 24, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST
why that be? say looky heara i axe you a qwershtun.
Aug. 24, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST
ya guyz raps sucks lol! Try listening to rappers with an IQ over 12, Outkast is a great start.
Aug. 24, 2006, 4:07 p.m. CST
There's a special place in hell reserved for you. Incidentally, your roommate is Don King.
Aug. 24, 2006, 5:24 p.m. CST