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Harry is idly wild about IDLEWILD...

Published at:  Aug 23, 2006 3:13:30 AM CDT

Before heading to the screening of IDLEWILD today – Yoko and I stopped off at TARGET to pick up various household amenities. Stuff like ORBIT WHITE BUBBLEMINT gum, some sort of chip thing that Yoko wanted, various cleaning things and then we decided to wander to the non-essential side of TARGET and pick up some new music and a DVD. Yoko grabbed the cd of IDLEWILD from OUTKAST for the commute across Austin to the screening of IDLEWILD. Sensible enough.



I’ve been looking forward to IDLEWILD for quite some time now. During the hour commute – we listened to the songs and just couldn’t imagine them working with the images that we’ve all seen in the trailers. The music isn’t their strongest work – and there really doesn’t feel like a strong single in the entire piece. That’s not to say there isn’t some nice work on there. There is. Some of the songs have vague echoes to the work of Cab Calloway in a synth over-processed manner. But this was an album that lowered my expectations for the film, rather than increased them.



Then it was time to head into the theater. I pulled out my PSP and the demo PSP for the upcoming LucasArts – LEGO – ORIGINAL TRILOGY game and I have to say… it’s bliss. I always liked the Prequel LEGO game, which I played on the XBOX with my Nephew – but well… Original Trilogy just geeks me out – there’s something about controlling old man Obi-Wan – that just kicks ass.



Anyway – then the radio station made contestants do 20 minutes of jumping jacks. Or at least it felt that way. Then the film started.



What can I say?



I loved the film, despite itself.



This is a deeply flawed gem. An immaculate clusterfuck of a musical that dazzles with style, performances and vision, but confounds with uninspired songs featuring Big Boi and with some plot lines that are less than inspired.



The movie is filled with wonderful clichés of the musical and period film genres, and telegraphs like David Sarnoff, but often I love the results. The film, like many 30s musicals has a simple, yet sillily convoluted plot – that you’ll always know the direction of. What’s missing is a lot of classic songs. The dance numbers are awesome, yet not breathtaking. They’re awesome for the style, design and yet stunted by just not committing to the fantastical elements that are inherent to the musical platform – they’re stunted by the limitations of staged musical numbers – using the fancy modern cinematic whiz-bang for punctuations – yet not for phrases.



Yet… I loved the mess.



I fully acknowledge that almost everything having to do with the adult Rooster character, as played by Big Boi was fairly tedious. However, the story of Angel and Percival was a jewel. All music & story borne of their story – is magical. Andre Benjamin (Andre 3000) and Paula Patton are wonderful. As is Terrence Howard, Faizon Love, Malinda Williams, Cicely Tyson, Macy Gray, Ben Vereen, Ving Rhames and Oscar Dillon. And they actor that I say… alongside Andre and Paula Patton – to employ in as many films as possible would be… Bobb’e J Thompson. He plays the Young Rooster – and he does so with such an immense amount of charisma and coolness, that Big Boi’s version of the character feels like the same record, just retarded. Thompson is a young star, that eats up the screen. The audience and I – loved that little kid.



But the film belongs to Andre and Paula Patton. Their story works 100% for me. Andre’s Percival is a brow-beaten man that is following his father’s footsteps steadily towards his own crypt. Inside him is a passionate musician – but in this violent small town – it seems he’s spending more time tending to corpses at his father’s mortuary – than playing with the notes he writes for his own music. He moonlights at his buddy’s club – tickling the ivories as his buddy, Rooster, takes center stage. It’s only when a lady in need of some support comes along, that his pilot light is lit – and he begins to imagine a bigger life for himself. To take his own steps and to be his own man.



Paula’s Angel is a mysterious singer of the Juke Joint variety. Not yet big time, but headed in that general direction. She finds a partner in song and stage with Percival – and their charisma together is fantastic.



Now – don’t get me wrong. Big Boi’s Rooster isn’t a waste, it’s just not the story I’d rather have in the center stage of this film. I get it. And there’s some fantastic sequences with him. He’s just not as strong a performer as those he’s surrounded by in the film, and it’s frustrating, because I’m constantly wanting him to be better at every turn. He’s just not Cagney and he’s in the Cagney role.



In a lot of ways – that’s this movie. It wants to be James Cagney. Not just the Gangster, but the Song and Dance man. And – there’s a genius here – that Cagney would have been amazing in. Imagine the Cagney musical – gangster flick that never happened. Where he owned a juke joint with Busby Berkeley musical numbers and Michael Curtiz tough guys.



The biggest flaw in the film is the uneven musical numbers. There’s some that work, and two that just don’t work in that SHINY PENNY “Somewhere in Time” kinda way. They’re just not in the right era.



That said – this wondrous experiment is nearly great, but flawed in a way that will ruin the film for most.



This isn’t a solid film. It’s a solid attempt. The talent on display is absolutely worth checking out, but it’ll aggravate you like George Lucas. I love what’s there, but acknowledge it could have been so much more. I just wish that Bryan Barber had watched shorts like BLACK AND TAN (1929) or SYMPHONY IN BLACK (1934). There’s more pure style and genius in those two shorts – and much to be learned from the actual all black films that dealt with Jazz in the late 20s and early 30s than is evident in this film – which is a great coulda shoulda been.



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    Readers Talkback

  • Aug 23, 2006 3:26:23 AM CDT

    dont forget to pick up all those names you dropped

    by soma imp

    I thought Harry was taking the piss in the first few paragraphs, thought maybe he was working his way up to denouncing Idlewild for being full of product placement or something. Then... nothing! No punchline! I know I was silly to expect one because Harry's writing has never been that coherant or deliberate, but at the same time I can't remember seeing product placement so obvious in anything that wasn't parody. Let me be the first and hopefully not the last to ask, what the fuck was that?

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:33:20 AM CDT

    I wanna see this.

    by shermdawg

  • Aug 23, 2006 3:38:16 AM CDT

    This Post Brought To You By FUCK YOU!

    by buster00

    Enjoy a tall glass of sweet Fuck You. Part of this nutritious fuck you. Now, gimme my money. Pimpin' ain't easy.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:49:01 AM CDT

    I'm so glad someone pointed out the Product Placement

    by meta4

    I thought i was just being paranoid about the CAPITALIZED prouducts Harry talked about....as for the movie the trailers looked alittle moulin Rougeish but i still wanted to see it because i think Andre Benjamin (Andre 3000) is a very good "rappa-turnt-actah", Nowhere near as good as Mos Def (in my humble opinion) but definitely up there (and completely better then 50 cent and Ja Rule)

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:50:49 AM CDT

    Please stop with the stupid headlines

    by dirkd13"

    "Idly wild for Idlewild", it's just sad to be honest, do you want to work for the Sun newspaper or something Harry? And the pimping of the PSP and game was irrelevant. The review was good though when you got down to it.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 4:41:33 AM CDT

    Obviously you've never played Lego Star Wars

    by madfigs

    cause that shit is fun. Lego R2D2 can float using his god damn jet boosters, but if you turn the controls the right way and he'll spin around like a fuckin' nutjob - it's awesome. I don't know about this gum of yours though.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 5:31:33 AM CDT

    That is all I need to picture in my mind...

    by drworm2002

    Harry doing jumping jacks. If you bump into Harry and he has two black eyes...it's becuase of his man tits.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 5:54:12 AM CDT

    new 'Kast album

    by britshit

    purchased it yesterday.mmmmm most of their albums grow on me over time, but sadly my first reaction is one of dissappointment. I see their trying something new here, defunct of any production resembling Atliens adn Aquemini (both rank in my top 20 or albums), prob won't see this movie, the album will be given more time

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  • Aug 23, 2006 6:22:25 AM CDT

    Is it as good as Under the Cherry Moon?

    by garbageman33

    Cuz that was the shit. I just didn't like that Prince stole Morris Day's sidekick. It's like, "Get your own second banana, Prince".

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:27:55 AM CDT

    boxing yoko?

    by davidaq

    Yoko Gushiken (具志堅 用高 Gushiken Yōko, born June 26, 1955) was a Japanese-born professional boxer from 1974-1981. His professional record is 23-1 and he held the title of WBA Jr. flyweight champion 1976-1981.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:44:59 AM CDT

    I'm surprised that they weren't sued by Idlewilde...

    by brycemonkey

    They are a very good and pretty well known band from Scotland. 'American English' is a fantastic song, check it out. I like Outcast but if he did an album/movie using my cool band's name I'd sue the pants off him. Now I have to go buy some ORBITZ GUM...

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:52:13 AM CDT

    WOW!! Worst Article Ever!

    by lofe101

    Harry, how are you incharge hear when you write pieces of shit like that. i mean bubble gum and legos starwars, what the fuck. i dont give a shit about you in target. just about the movie. so would ya stick to that. oh ya this movie looks meh!!!!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:54:05 AM CDT

    brycemonkey, we're in the U.S.

    by terry_1978

    So while your group may be somewhat popular in the indie circles, the mainstream here in the states have no idea who they are. And Idlewild is a n actual city here as well that's predominately African American, so that's more than likely the same reason. I doubt they even know who the Scottish dudes are.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:54:35 AM CDT

    Harry??? Where Is The Tom Cruise Talk Back???

    by metalwater

    Did you see how Sumner Redstone set Tom Cruise up to look like he was fired???!!! Reminds me of the dirty tricks that CBS/Viacom pulled on Howard Stern!!! Those are some really shitty people over there. This is a clear effort by the powers that be to destroy Tom Cruise' career!!! Tom I got your back...I'd work with you any day...fuck Paramount and their parent company CBS/Viacom...Without Stern and Cruise they are going to go broke!!! In other news, its good to see that Harry loves Idlewild in spite of its flaws...I have a feeling it's a good one too. Thanks for the review
    Harry...as always, you're the man!!!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 8:26:23 AM CDT

    "Harry is idly wild...."

    by _kayser_

    Wow. Harry is entering the 6th level of hell with the Gene Shalitisms. Maybe it is a little better than "Harry gets his butthole scrubbed with a toilet brush while watching IDEWILD!"

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  • Aug 23, 2006 8:32:57 AM CDT

    Yeah I hear you Terry...

    by brycemonkey

    I can see that the UK band might not care about the film so much. But if the album is called Idlewild also (rather than The Idlewild OST or some shit). That I could see them caring more about. Hopefully they will sue and get millions, crafty Scots...

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  • Aug 23, 2006 8:55:08 AM CDT

    God, why do I hate that her name isYoko?

    by trazadone

  • Aug 23, 2006 8:56:51 AM CDT

    Oh man...

    by thebort

    that product placement crap was so embarassing, but i guess harry needs some mo to pay his wedding planner.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:04:11 AM CDT

    What the fuck is Lego Star Wars?

    by ldm882

  • Aug 23, 2006 9:30:09 AM CDT

    Is there anything that harry doesn't like

    by lost prophet

    That is not made by fox? This is an iffy prospect at best, with obiovus flaws and Harry still loves it. I think that WB could put out a movie consisting entirely of paint drying and Harry would rave about it. Provided someone had written "Bryan Singer" in the credits somewhere.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:35:29 AM CDT

    Roses smell like poo poo, and so does this, from a mile

    by performingmonkey

    away. I can tell. When Harry cares more about the fucking original trilogy with old-man Obi-Wan (as opposed to young Obi-Wan who will always be just Ewan McGregor doing a stupid accent) fucking Lego title, then the movie sucks motherfucking donkey nuts. Let's just have a good movie like (off the top of my head) Fantastic Four! or Blade 3, and give us T4 while you're at it. Shove it.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:36:22 AM CDT

    Nephew = Kid in shit-filled diaper during the Hulk?

    by badger999

    Was that the same kid stewing in a shit-filled diaper during "Hulk"? http://www.aint-it-cool.com/display.cgi?id=15411

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:38:05 AM CDT

    Compare this review to Massawyrm's

    by mr_sleep001

    which leaves out the product placement and the annoying 'despite its badness its good'tie up.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:43:02 AM CDT

    Herc has a vagina.

    by fiester

    He loves a good cry too and masterbates to his Titanic poster.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:11:04 AM CDT

    I think you're racist...

    by readyoufool

    racist racist racist! bah!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:28:40 AM CDT

    Holy Crap

    by decypher44

    There is A LOT of product placement in this review. PSP, LucasArts, Target, Orbit. And that was just in the first couple of paragraphs! And this movie looks like crap.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:32:19 AM CDT

    So how many product placements can one review have?

    by sith-vol

    "I stopped off at TARGET to pick up various household amenities. Stuff like ORBIT WHITE BUBBLEMINT gum" CHA-CHING! "grabbed the cd of IDLEWILD from OUTKAST " CHA-CHING! "I pulled out my PSP and the demo PSP for the upcoming LucasArts – LEGO – ORIGINAL TRILOGY game" CHA-MOTHERFUCKIN-CHING! I suppose that article alone was enought to pay the bills at AICN for a month. Jesus Harry...and I thought Carson Daly was a tool.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:41:47 AM CDT

    Harry's night out

    by plantpage55

    so I went to see IDLEWILD by OUTKAST with my CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND ROBERT RODRIGUIZ. Then I went home and put on a XTRA LARGE TROJAN to HAVE SEX with YOKO.

    when I was able to achieve erect again, thanks to my double dose of ENZYTE. I got out my KY WARMING JELLY in hopes that QUENTIN TARANTINO would finally let me butt-fuck him. Dejected, I put in my KUNG FU - THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON from WARNER HOME VIDEO and furiousy masterbated to thoughts of the time I sniffed DAVID CARRADINE'S boxers

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:55:28 AM CDT

    Beginning to believe that Harry has no taste at all...

    by scarranhalfbreed

    ...How the hell did this site get made? He loves every movie he sees lately, except for X-Men: Last Stand which was mediocre, but mired by studio interference, hence the bad review (not actually a review of the movie, but of the production politics that ensued). I have no faith in his reviews anymore, not that I did before.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:57:05 AM CDT

    harry

    by georges garvaren

    dont listen to these highschool monkies. Most of us like your way of reviewing a movie. I find it refreshing to hear how you got to the theater and what kind of mood you were in because all that effects how the movie played out for you. Orbits gum is shit though; Dentine all the way, bitches.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:58:32 AM CDT

    Flip63Hole

    by scarranhalfbreed

    Your review was spot on, and probably far more accurate than Harry's.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:12:58 AM CDT

    This is too much..

    by callmecapo

    ... I love how Harry tries to put a positive spin on something which he clearly thinks is total shit. "deeply flawed" ... "immaculate clusterfuck" ... "some plot lines that are less than inspired" ... "fairly tedious" ... "flawed in a way that will ruin the film for most" ... "This isn't a solid film" ... "it'll aggrivate you like George Lucas" ... "could have been so much more" ... So he sprinkles a bit of love in the middle for a generic, paint by numbers plot, and tries to make it seem "good", when the writing is on the wall (and in this review) ... He hated the fucking film.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:15:54 AM CDT

    Does anyone ever think that white reviewers....

    by iamjack'suserid

    are afraid to give black movies bad reviews in fear of appearing racist? (Like how that jerkass heywood jablomie reacted in the TB of Massa's Idlewood review) Or that they intentionally like a black movie to appear hip or current or modern? I think so, and I think this is the case with this frankly shit review.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:17:18 AM CDT

    i'm clearly in the minority

    by waggy

    but i like the idlewild soundtrack

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:19:56 AM CDT

    Okay..

    by don lockwood

    First of all, her name isn't really Yoko, you tools. He's trying to be clever by giving her a nickname like Moriarty or Quint. Second, yeah, the product placement. Maybe Harry's been reading too many Bret Easton Ellis novels lately. Third, it took you a fucking hour to get somewhere in Austin? Were you walking? Because I can get from "South" Austin to Round Rock in roughly 35 minutes. Lastly, you went to a radio station preview? What kind of chump are you? I thought you were Mr. Hot Shot Big Time?

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:24:10 AM CDT

    georges, why don't you just ask Harry to blow him next?

    by atticus finch

    MOST of us like Harry's way of reviewing? Speak for yourself. If I want commercials, I'll watch TV. I don't expect them in reviews from supposedly "cool" movie news websites.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:25:42 AM CDT

    Alternative Article Title: Harry Enjoys Domestic Bliss:

    by purityofessence

    Thousands Killed, None Injured. Cool news indeed.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:38:28 AM CDT

    So everything about it sucked but he loved it anyway

    by i dunno

    Jebus H, how much payola is enough?

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:53:24 AM CDT

    LOL

    by el scorcho

    Yeah, he pretty much did say that everything in the movie was shitty and didn't work, but he loved it.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 12:07:16 PM CDT

    This could be the New XANADU!!!

    by orionsangels

  • Aug 23, 2006 12:14:41 PM CDT

    yoko and i...

    by jacksonspole

    yoko. yoko. yoko. yoko. bubblemint orbitz white. outkast soundtrack. target. great values. yoko and i. yoko. yoko. pepsi. psp. sensible purchases. star wars. legos. cinnabons. yoko and i. yoko. yoko. (i have an actual girlfriend.) mounds. almond joy. YOKO!!!!!!!!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 12:21:01 PM CDT

    My theory

    by plantpage55

    movie executives actually value AIN'T IT COOL's opinions of there movies over ANY other critics, so they take turn blowing Harry during the movie. This way, yes, the movie was shitty but Harry DID enjoy watching it

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  • Aug 23, 2006 12:32:26 PM CDT

    Atticus Finch

    by georges garvaren

    Lets say you dont like harry

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  • Aug 23, 2006 12:41:21 PM CDT

    no Yoko mentions unless about blowing a wad on her face

    by tall_boy

    I think that's a good rule to establish.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 12:49:00 PM CDT

    And the award for most numerous net cliches in a single

    by iamjack'suserid

    ...post goes to georges garvaren, who mentioned every "tough guy over the internet" cliche in the book, including alluding to living in basements, being gay, being homophobic (which contrasts nicely with the being gay part), being alone (or "along", as he put it), being unattractive, etc. Next time though, you may want to mention his mother to make your rant complete.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 12:49:55 PM CDT

    Can't we just get big Vern to review everthing

    by hook&pullgang

    I am so down on all this, me and my famous buddies did this, did that and got paid to talk about products, Vern should take over Aint It Complacement News, oh and and I'll sum this piece of shit up for you right now, Andre good, movie bad and that review was a steaming pile of hemorrhoidal spuge juice.
    No one respects that review, come on, jesus just cause some sun baked mongolid geek got a broad what you have to mention it in like every sentance, I know he probably thinks that if he don't mention it she will dissapear into thin air, but surley this review marks a new low for this site?

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  • Aug 23, 2006 1:00:06 PM CDT

    I am surprised Harry didn't make an intermission...

    by iamjack'suserid

    ...in the review when he mentioned he missed some 5 minutes of the movie when he was in the bathroom pissing out gallons of REFRESHING MOUNTAIN DEW soft drink, which was of course interrupted by the occasional hurricane-force farts brought on by LOVELY KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 1:12:19 PM CDT

    OutKast, best artists working in music today!!!

    by gravyakira

    You better fucking believe it too. Check out Southernplayalisticcadilacmusic, ATLiens, Aquemini, Stankonia, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, and IdleWild if you dont believe me. Pure genius I tell you, even if you dont like hip-hop (which I love, for the most part).

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  • Aug 23, 2006 1:24:49 PM CDT

    The trailer screamed what this review said...

    by kampbell-kid

    ...honestly. I just got the vibe it was a misfire. I do respect how Outkast remains to stay outside the box and not be the typical 98% stuff you see on BET. It's refreshing. Just this film's soundtrack as it played over the commercial alone on TV didn't fit with the era they portrayed at all. After watching the film with a friend who worships Outkast, Harry was right. A great concept, ruined by a misfire of musical choices. It seems more thought was put into the visuals than the music, but thats a musicals priority... good music. This lacked something that drived the story corherently.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 1:45:06 PM CDT

    I remember BABY: Secret of the Lost Legend!

    by slone13

    The Greatest American Hero running around trying to save a rubber dinosar. Even at 12 I knew shite when I saw it.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 1:53:59 PM CDT

    "Mokele-mbembe...

    by mocky_puppet

    ...you seen this thing?"

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  • Aug 23, 2006 1:56:50 PM CDT

    And now for a commercial break...

    by eddie hitler

    .....Harry, why not just turn AICN into a pay site, eh? Maybe then if every schmo who wanted to visit the site paid a monthly fee you could avoid that utterly transparent and insulting advertisment break disguised as a review. Oh yeah, because if people had to pay to come to this site, no one would bother anymore. I forgot. This used to be a good site; I have to say it's turned into an embarrassment and mainly due to your reviews and whoring. And oh yeah, we get it - you have a girlfriend. We know. No need to mention it every fucking review.

    And what the fuck with the review? It's a piece of shit film where everything about it sucks, but it's actually good anyway? Yeah, ok. What's that in the sky? A bird? A plane? No, it's a big fucking schill.

    Still, at least when we read a review of Harry's these days we don't have to worry about any kind of journalistic integrity anymore - that shit just gets in the way, right? In fact, just don't bother with the reviews - just have a link that looks like it leads to a review, but just opens up onto a big Burger King sign.

    This negative talkback was brought to you by my ass and Orbitz Pearl White. Now fucking pay me, corporate sponsors that I don't really have, honest.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 2:10:09 PM CDT

    I just stopped reading

    by bob of the shire

    I bough stuff and then played stuff on my PSP! Yipee! Oh and the film is great! My name is Harry and there have been three films in the past decade that I've hated! Yipee!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 2:20:05 PM CDT

    Drew McW once sent me an angry e-mail

    by hypeendshere

    after I quoted Bill Hicks to him regarding product placement. He said he knew Bill Hicks and didn't need to be lectured. i was banned. and now, Drew, if you are reading this, just imagine Satan fucking Harry in the ass as he eats a bag of Cool Ranch Doritos. cool and flavorful, indeed.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 2:55:51 PM CDT

    Another

    by john dalmas

    Another "It sucked, but I still liked it" review. This has gotten pretty ridiculous.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:00:46 PM CDT

    mos def

    by deadpanwalking

    Mos Def is an actor turned rapper.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:05:01 PM CDT

    Funny, Yack.

    by superninja

  • Aug 23, 2006 3:06:02 PM CDT

    idlewild

    by deadpanwalking

    Idlewild was the name of J.F.K. airport before it was a Scottish band or a movie.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:19:23 PM CDT

    PLANT!

    by sasha nein

    No, worse than a plant..ROBOT! I call shenanigans on you, Harry, for your continuing bullshit reviews and your inexplicable obtaining of a hot fiancee. And that I almost never see you reply to the TBs to refute these many claims of douchebaggery against you. If you have anything to say that would reclaim some semblance of your dignity, I suggest you say it now.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:20:46 PM CDT

    "Yet

    by thunderpants

    Further proof that Harry is pretty much incapable of writing a bad review.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 3:25:04 PM CDT

    Sellout

    by thunderpants

    Christ...Harry is such a sellout. Orbit, Target, etc in all caps? Could it be more obvious? He should offer pieces of his fat ass for tatooing ads with "Insert product here" and an arrow pointing to his crack

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  • Aug 23, 2006 4:17:19 PM CDT

    I propose a AICN group avatar

    by durhay

    based on the cover of the Beatles bootleg Control Room Monitor Mixes.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 4:36:53 PM CDT

    Defending Harry

    by garbageman33

    I think what Harry was doing here was illustrating how all over the place the narrative of the movie was. And he figured, what better way to do that than by writing a review with weird tangents and things that don't go anywhere. See, the review is just like the movie. That, or maybe he just suffers from ADD. Either way, give the poor guy a break.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 4:42:40 PM CDT

    Roger Joseph Manning Jr !

    by orionsangels

    Has the album of the year. You lame suckers just don't know it.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 4:46:51 PM CDT

    What. The. Fuck.

    by flickerhead

    Harry, are you fucking kidding with this shit? "It was a terrible movie, filled with cliches and dance numbers that don't work... but I loved it." How do you fucking sleep at night, man? To hell with those who mock your weight or your appearance or whatever, but the "whore" shit is 100% your own doing. This review is a joke, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 5:11:39 PM CDT

    Harry, what a jibberish

    by mrnelson

  • Aug 23, 2006 6:25:11 PM CDT

    georges...

    by atticus finch

    So I take you to task for slurping Harry's ass and sounding like you want to fellate (look it up) him and you call me gay? Brilliant! While trying to sound intelligent, your reply is pretty much the equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?" Oh well, can't expect too much from someone who finds Harry's shilling "refreshing".

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:12:19 PM CDT

    Random thoughts.

    by cameron1

    Outkast are superb, Speakerboxx was the better album. But cus of Hey Ya, Love Below got mo hype, sad really.
    I'll catch this on DVD or perhaps a free download, it looks like cliche ridden poo. Harry, jesus man, I've always been a defender of you but fucking hell you are shilling like a dirty diry fucking whore here. Money isn't that important man, try to have a little dignity please. The VAST majority don't rust your reviews anymore, that's a fact dude. Don't let McWeeny get all the praise.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:28:18 PM CDT

    Harry is a fucking sellout

    by guyincognito27

    I have posted a rant on Harry Knowles several times and his Love of EVERY movie he "reviews." U cannot find one negative review of any movie he has reviewed (except for X3 and Omen again which can be attributed to his "beef" with Tom Rothman and Fox) for the last 12 reviews. His review for IDLEWILD takes the cake though. HE CLEARLY DOESNT LIKE THIS MOVIE!!!STATES THAT ITS A MESS!!! and he still cant come out and say that he does not like the film. For the love of God, he has a deal with these studios because they believe his negativity will equal box office poison. Knowles, you dont have that much clout sir. Either the movie is a mess or it isnt. Just cash another paycheck from them cause lord knows aint it cool aint footin your bills.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:37:57 PM CDT

    Masawyrm's Review is better.

    by dogsoup

    Great job hiring that guy. He writes the kind of reviews we want to read. IT SUCKS!:Here's why... IT'S GREAT!:Here's why...If I wanted to read a blog I would spend all my fucking time on LiveJournal.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:39:06 PM CDT

    harrys reviews

    by soma imp

    I'm sorry to be such a troll, but I have to agree at least in part with the people on here who take issue with Harry's reviews. I just can't figure Harry out. How does somebody with so much obvious enthusiasm for film end up writing such misguided reviews? For so many years, I've come to this site because it really does get hold of a lot of good info before it ever makes it to the mainstream press. Reviewers like Massawyrm and Vern keep me coming back (by the way Massa, PLEASE do not stop writing for AICN, I would probably have to stop reading if you did) but Harry's reviews have always left me scratching my head, and its not just a difference of opinion. It's incredibly frustrating to have to wade through paragraphs of unrelated mundane anecdotes about everything that happened to Harry on the day he saw the film, and now blatant product placement (there is nothing in the world that will kill your credibility more quickly) just to get to a review that can't decide whether its reviewing the movie or apologising for it. I'd love to begin to trust your writing Harry, and I can see I'm not alone in sentiment. I don't want to directly insult you like some others have done above me, I'm sure you're a great guy and everything, but please consider this advice:

    1. Lose the product placement, ASAP.

    2. Lose the incidental, non-review related anecdotes.

    3. Try not to mention Yoko. Its understandable, being in love is grand, but its not relevant to the review and it cheapens it.

    4. Do not open a review by talking about how much you loved the character as a little kid and how this movie is made just for fans like you. Instant discredit.

    5. Try to pace your writing. Try and introduce opinions and concepts in regular intervals throughout the piece, instead of breathlessly cramming them all into one paragraph, and then spending three paragraphs justifying them. Your lack of good pacing and forethought is, I think, the primary reason your writing is often mocked as grade-school level.

    I know this all sounds very harsh, but I'm not trying to insult anyone. I visit this site so often, I just wish there was a higher standard of criticism on it. The main writers at CHUD are all at a much higher literary and critical standard than the main guys here at AICN.. it would be great if I could read a whole day worth of items on this site without wincing. Sorry for ranting.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 7:39:13 PM CDT

    Idlewild: Is this the worst movie title ever?

    by brokebackcowboy

    I can't think of a worse one. Except maybe the Star Wars Prequels. Happy Macaca!

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  • Aug 23, 2006 8:03:28 PM CDT

    In response to Soma re: Harry's Reviews

    by guyincognito27

    I am going to post my rant against Harry here again because i want some fucking feedback on how u all feel about Harry's reviews and realize that they are nothing but a commercial for the movie. I posted the following bit in the inside man column as well as the beerfest review:I am posting my thoughts again in this thread as it is more appropriate. K seriously- this site has become one big fucking commercial. Granted i have read this site since 1999, and it has obviously influenced the choices that i make when going to the movies. However, that was when the site told me about little known titles like "memento," and "city of god." Harry and crew got me excited to see movies off of the beaten path. Now, all of the movies that Harry reviews, have became the greatest movies he's ever seen (unless of course the movie was made by Fox). For example, War of the Worlds, Hustle and Flow reviews from Harry came out pretty close together. And i quote: "This is the very best film I

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  • Aug 23, 2006 8:16:31 PM CDT

    My dear Atticus Finch;

    by georges garvaren

    You let Tom hang and for that you are a disgrace. Your arguments against me are lazy and flaccid much like that close personal friend of yours that dangles lifelessly between your thighs, pining for the attention that you feel it so rightfully deserves. Have fun acting righteous on the cowardice device that is the internet. And, I know you are but what am I?

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  • Aug 23, 2006 8:27:36 PM CDT

    Can you believe...

    by sk909

    that nobody has branched off and created their own site yet? I mean... just if aicn lost Vern and Massyrwm(sp?), that'd be enough to lure at least 50 percent of the audience to split their time between the two sites and at least 25% to abandon this site altogether. I can't figure it out... unless they sign some kind of agreement saying they won't do it. I mean, ads on this site cost a small fortune. As long as you can prove you've got the audience, you can charge those rates, and I think they'd get a sizable audience. What does everyone else think about this?

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:15:16 PM CDT

    SK909... you got a point there...

    by w3bzpinn3r

    I'd definitely drop this site in a second if Mori, Mass, or Vern would create their own site. Harry REEKS of studio-payoff. The very fact that Massawyrm ADMITTED that Harry hired him solely to be the site's "badguy" PROVES that Harry's not maintaining this site as a credible source for reviews and news, but rather a stylized facimile of a rumors page. A "Reality tv" web site.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:50:33 PM CDT

    georges- Tom didn't hang

    by sasha nein

    he was shot when he tried to make a run for it.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 9:59:38 PM CDT

    test

    by karrot

  • Aug 23, 2006 10:27:17 PM CDT

    This movie sounds extremely gay.

    by cotton mcknight

  • Aug 23, 2006 10:42:10 PM CDT

    A Soliloquy to Sillily.

    by zarles

    Splendid.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:42:37 PM CDT

    No matter how many times its brought up...

    by chickychow

    I cant help laughing at the reminder of Harry's nephew saying "Poo Poo" then settling down in his own rancid feces to watch the Hulk smack around an enormous poodle. And to think, Harry probably had a Snickers bar crammed into his face-hole during the incident...

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:46:42 PM CDT

    BUY ORBIT GUM!!!!!! AT TARGET!!!!

    by chickychow

    in case you didn't get the point of Harry's review

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  • Aug 23, 2006 10:55:13 PM CDT

    Idiots

    by filmonger

    If you don't like Harry's reviews, don't read them. AICN offers a unique alternitive to the mass produced crap that most critics turn out these days. Yes Harry likes a lot of movies but les all remember that AICN itself was founded on his sheer love for the cinema. That is all.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:04:13 PM CDT

    Panterarocks, either you're crazier than a loon...

    by chickychow

    or you're Harry himself. Either way, you deserve a swift mint kick to the ass.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:22:25 PM CDT

    My theory on why Harrry's reviews suck so bad

    by bobparr

    Harry is a geek, a nerd, a dork. And I just don't mean that he's into movies and D&D. Most honest to goodness geeks have terrible social skills. They can only talk about crap that they are interested in and don't seem to care if anyone else gives a shit. I read his bio today on the web about how he has been practically bed-ridden for about half of his life. I don't think he has had enough face to face interaction with people in his formative years. He knows that we don't give a shit about the mundane details of his lfe but he can't help himself. He doesn't know any other way to communicate. I feel your pain Harry. Now do us all a favor and stop talking about your dad, Yoko, nephew, Hawaiin shirts, and the time you and Eli Roth participated in a daisy chain! We've got our own boring shit going on and we don't need to hear about your's. Just talk about the movie.

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  • Aug 23, 2006 11:40:56 PM CDT

    Harry's reviewing style

    by ohdaesu

    Harry can you for once just review a movie without delving into your personal life you fucking attention whore? We don't need to hear about you and your 18 year old korean sex toy going to Target. Get over yourself ya fat bastard.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 2:10:59 AM CDT

    Hey, W3bzpinn3r (and others)

    by buster00

    Uh, Vern DOES have his own geocities site. He provides a link to it every time he posts a review. Google "outlawvern" and enjoy.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 2:47:43 AM CDT

    And Harry's Plummet Continues.....

    by the ender

    ....further down into the abyss ye go, thou taker of studio money to promote thy shitty films......

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  • Aug 24, 2006 2:57:44 AM CDT

    hmm

    by exterminans

    Harry seems to like almost every damn movie he reviews. I know he can't like every piece of crap Hollywood puts out. He should write reviews for some of the films he doesn't like and not just the one's he does.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 4:01:54 AM CDT

    So basically a movie

    by nabster

    has to be have been made by retarded monkeys before Harry doesn't like it or gives it a bad review.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 4:29:11 AM CDT

    Nabster

    by lost prophet

    nope, retarded monkeys would make a film Harry loves. Provided they didn't do it working for fox.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 5:45:51 AM CDT

    THANK GOD FOR HARRY!!!

    by thatpeterguy

    I make REALLY small budget films and I just realized that a good course of action would be to get one of my films into his hands so he can talk about how it made him giggle with glee etc. etc. etc. I like Harry. He seems like a guy with a heart of gold and I find it endearing that he can love almost anything on celluloid but it's getting really ridiculous. As long as the movie doesn't fuck up one of his comic book storylines then they all get a pass.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 5:56:13 AM CDT

    Yoko is a Japanese name

    by mongrel1

    I thought the girl was Korean. Who cares, they all look alike, right Harry? Dumb racist bastard.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 5:59:23 AM CDT

    I have a theory!

    by thatpeterguy

    As we have all been reminded time and time again Harry is in love. When people are in love food tastes better, problems don's seem as important, and for Harry films don't suck. If you look back on the history of this website there is a direct correlation between the beginning of Harry's soft critiques and the beginning of his relationship with Yoko. He readily admits that what is going on in his life affects his reviews. And notice how she is there with him at all these screenings. What he is getting confused by is the fact that he had fun because he was hanging out with his girl not because of the shit box of a movie he just saw. Wait till they break up. Every movie is going to get slammed. I said it first.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 7:15:51 AM CDT

    are you suggesting

    by lost prophet

    that the quality of Harry's reviews depends entirely upon his mental state. if so then, when he is hitched and has settled into domestic bliss with the occasional Blow job on a friday then he will stop adoring every half arsed pos film released. Pity it didn't happen earlier, we may have got some honest opinions on this summer's turdfest extravaganza. Apart from X3 which he was determined to hate, and nothing was going to divert him.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 7:35:53 AM CDT

    Here's a suggestion--

    by john dalmas

    From someone who's been reading the site for about eight years.
    Moriarty, Vern and Quint should team up and start a new site.
    Leave Harry to gush over absolutely any movie that isn't made by Fox, and let Hercules cover TV shows about teenage girls.
    See which site gets more traffic.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 7:49:13 AM CDT

    Harry is right

    by joeyrusso1290

    There are a great deal of positives with this films, but they don't outweigh the negatives. Check out my review of the film @ http://www.movietack.net/r1050-idlewild-movie-review.html

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  • Aug 24, 2006 8:45:29 AM CDT

    Has anyone seen

    by nabster

    Yoko at these screenings? I am curious as to what kind of girl an ageing, and morbidly obese movie geek can get.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 9:18:17 AM CDT

    SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR GIRLFRIEND! WE GET IT!

    by frijole

    ...and how are gum and potato chips "household amenities"?

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  • Aug 24, 2006 11:42:15 AM CDT

    Yoko is Harry's Suri Cruise

    by chickychow

    She exists only in rumour and hearsay.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 11:47:03 AM CDT

    Your Musical Taste Sucks Cock!

    by ripper t. jones

    The Idlewild sndk is great. I don't know what the fuck you're talkin about.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 12:08:59 PM CDT

    Well, based on Knowles review of 'SILENT HILL'

    by uberman

    which I saw last night-actually spread out over several nights as it is really to friggin God awful terrible that I could not take in the horribleness of it in one sitting, I think I will be skiping this one. SILENT HILL: One of the worst films I have ever seen, just sux on so many levels that it truly was laugh aloud bad. Ughh. Just have to get that off my chest.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 1:21:47 PM CDT

    Harry, though loseth credibility by the moment

    by artie langes nut

    Good lord man, pimping for Idlewild? Has it come to that? Next thing you know you will be saying you like Superman Returns....Oh wait.....Next thing you know you'll be saying you liked Snakes on a Plane......Oh Snap.......Good lord that Superman movie made me cry from boredom, yet harry always drags it back to his childhood like a fat peter pan....

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  • Aug 24, 2006 1:27:10 PM CDT

    More Products

    by kentucky colonel

    Last night I went to WOLF TRAP NATIONAL PARK FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS to see the STEVE MILLER BAND. WOLF TRAP is so cool cuz they let you bring in any food & drink, including alcohol (just not kegs...seriously...anything but a keg...www.wolftrap.org) so I had a FOOTLONG SUBWAY GRILLED CHICKEN TERRIAKI SANDWICH and a 6-pack of ABITA TURBODOG. My WIFE JILL had a SUBWAY COLD CUT COMBO WRAP. We shared some ROLLED GOLD PRETZEL STIX and a bottle of a very delicious REISLING. Around us other concertgoers enjoyed PIZZA HUT PAN PIZZA, CHICKEN STRIPS from BOJANGLES, HEINEKEN BEER and lots of CHINEESE TAKEOUT. STEVE MILLER played everything off his GREATEST HITS ALBUM, as well as ABRACADABRA and a few blues covers like CROSSROADS. We sprayed ourselves with OFF! INSECT REPELLENT because the previous night at WOLF TRAP we saw LYLE LOVETT AND HIS LARGE BAND and were attacked by a multitude of ASIAN TIGER MOSQUITOS. I drove home in my 2005 HONDA CIVIC HYRID and watched ARTIE LANGE on DAVID LETTERMAN. But I didn't stop at TARGET, I didn't buy any shit music, and my gum of choice is EXTRA SUGAR FREE GUM in the PINK PACK. (((your ad here)))

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  • Aug 24, 2006 1:53:47 PM CDT

    Wow.... you write reviews?

    by bava's ghost

    that's weird.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 2:00:31 PM CDT

    uberman

    by blackwood

    I liked Silent Hill - a lot. More importantly, Vern liked it. And Quint and Moriarty liked it. There's a whole group of people who get that film on a level that you, apparently, don't. So hate on it as you will - but Harry liking it means little more than he's in good company.

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  • Aug 24, 2006 2:56:37 PM CDT

    Blackwood

    by uberman

    SILENT HILL: "There's a whole group of people who get that film on a level that you, apparently, don't." Is that grade level 1 or 2?

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  • Aug 24, 2006 3:13:38 PM CDT

    no subject

    by zain

    HARRY, STOP HAVING AN OPINION AND SHARE MINE LOL

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  • Aug 24, 2006 8:01:52 PM CDT

    Outkast....hmmmm??

    by ilostmydrumset

    Just saw the trailer for this one, don't know what to think?

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  • Aug 25, 2006 2:35:45 AM CDT

    This Movie...and Love...

    by sabowan

    First and foremost (staying on subject), I'm interested in this movie. I'm fairly sure its box office receipts will not see my dollar since my work schedule is about to go into the seventh layer, but I will almost certainly catch it on DVD. Secondly, Harry, I enjoy you featuring Yoko in your reviews despite what others say. If nothing else, this site has always appealed to the "common geek," the man who wants both the Master Replicas AT-AT Walker and a hot broad. Though there are few, (and those without may be spouting venom because of this) I find your reviews lighthearted and for the most part, unbiased. Good stuff!

    -Sabowan

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  • Aug 25, 2006 4:45:46 AM CDT

    Are you guys kidding

    by nabster

    this movie looks like dried horse shit. A bunch of pretentious black "artists" prancing around, whom may or may not make some occasionaly catchy beats.

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  • Aug 26, 2006 12:11:08 PM CDT

    Fuck Outcast Harry, you bastard. Try some REAL music!!!

    by kentucky colonel

    Bands like "The subdudes", "Iko-Iko", "Paul K and the Weathermen", "Fleming & John", "King Kong" (I'll bet you'll really like King Kong...their album "Me Hungry" is about a caveman's torrid love affair with a yak) or just about any band that's not in the top 100 these days. Without getting out the soapbox...today's music pretty much sucks ass. I do kinda like that Gnarls Barkley, though. Anything with Danger Mouse has gotta be cool. But everything sounds the fucking same anymore...lame ass "boasting" rhymes over recycled beats. Hell, I saw the Steve Miller band on Wednesday and even though the dude hasn't had a hit since Abracadabra in the early 80's this dude has more talent in his chewed up & spit out fingernails than these punk ass fly-by-nights these days. Coolio said it best when he said that these days you get two albums, tops, then you're a has been. Outkast my ass...Harry, get a clue! Better yet, get the "Holy Trilogy" of King Kong albums "Funny Farm", "Me Hungry" and "Kingdom of Kong" (my personal fave). Then get "The Big Bang" as the icing on the cake. They are all available through Amazon or Half.com...trust me...you'll be a believer in the power of Kong. Outkast...c'mon man....OUTKAST??? PS-Yoko broke up the Band. Linda Eastman, too.

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  • Aug 26, 2006 6:42:55 PM CDT

    I

    by georges garvaren

    but are you shilling during a debate about shilling? Because if you were unaware of this loosely hidden fact contained quite lardly (un n

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  • Aug 27, 2006 9:03:46 AM CDT

    Hey Georges!

    by kentucky colonel

    I, too, am fond of kicking baby orphans. Too many fuckers in this world...but that's just me and my Dr. No theory on population control, n'est ce pas? Please download all the King Kong you want for free...as far as I know the band never received much in the way of royalties from their record company and made most of their meager $$$ by touring. And since I work for the government (in a roundabout way) if my business venture is to fail then it means anarchy, which would be kinda kool, present administration in power and all. Pax Vobiscum, yoe.

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  • Aug 27, 2006 11:24:12 AM CDT

    Wow, A movie that Harry and I both liked.

    by the founder

    Idlewild was good, and I agree with Harry's review. To bad so many are bashing the movie because they don't get it. This really isn't the site to promote a movie of this genre Harry.

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  • Aug 27, 2006 1:01:48 PM CDT

    Dead Prez > Outkast

    by the ender

  • Aug 27, 2006 5:02:42 PM CDT

    sILeNt hILL

    by deadlegend

    Silent Hill is the greatest video game movie of all fucking time. No other film has come close to capturing the source material and delivering it with disturbing accuracy. Those who don't like Silent Hill the movie have obviously never played the games, and you don't need to. Shut the fuck up and keep watching you're shitty Uwe Boll video game adaptions, you fucking tasteless fuckasses.

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  • Jan 19, 2007 12:48:37 PM CST

    They don't work..

    by 0rcus

    the collect unemployment

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