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Test Screening review of Scorsese's THE DEPARTED!!!
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Hey folks, Harry here... I want to fucking see this NOW!!! The trailer had me foaming at the mouth - now I'm foaming at the ass... rabid through and through to see this one! The problems that LethalH20 had with the film sound like the exact sort of things that Scorsese will have no problems fixing with either music or timing tweaks. And they seem very slight to this reviewer - cuz he seems to have just gone gaga for the flick. Hopefully the film will get through the MPAA with minimal casualties. Here ya go - watch out for spoilers...
Hello all,
I'm a huge fan of the site and thought it would be an appropriate time to submit my first film review. On August 9th in Edgewater, NJ, I was witness to probably the best film I have seen all year. The film is question is The Departed directed by Martin Scorsese and starring Jack Nicholson, Matt Damon, Leonardo DiCaprio, with smaller parts by Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Mark Wahlberg and Anthony Andersen.
First off the good:
The film is really something else. The acting and directing are all top notch (what else would you expect, honestly?) The film is decidely very un-Scorsese like. While it is an intense film for the most part, there are tons of laugh out loud moments usually courtesy of Nicholson, Baldwin, or Wahlberg. These 3 get to ham it up completely, especially Wahlberg who comes really close to being completely over the top with his Boston accent and tough cop routine.
The action is also quite remarkable. The cut I saw was unrated but I say its safe to assume that they are going to have to do alot of editing to get an R rating. The violence protrayed is brutal and in your face. People are shot in the head from point blank range with blood splatting in every direction. Fortunately, it's presented in a very realistic sense, not at all cartoonish like in Kill Bill.
The best performances in the film belong to Jackie boy and DiCaprio. Jack protrays "Frank" who is part of the mob in Boston. He is completely charismatic, likeable, and COMPLETELY insane. This is a man with no regards to human life, yet he's completely likeable, like a crazy uncle or something. Jack really gets to cut lose and be a nut case.
As for DiCaprio, he plays William, a wannabe cop, who due to his family having a very shady past, is picked to infiltrate Frank's mafia, in hopes of ultimately bringing Frank down. This was the toughest part in the film and DiCaprio really pulls it off well. Throughout the film you get to see and feel is slow descent into madness as he is really a good guy but is stuck in a world full of crime and violence.
Next the bad:
The film was a rough cut (as we were all warned before the film started), so there were some small issues. There were some cutback and flashback sequences that didin't really work all that well. It kind of threw the chronological pacing of the film off. I guess with some editing this can be fixed, or at least I hope so.
Also there were some, what I'd like to call, "Wes Anderson" moments, where a character would speak in reference to an object and the film would cut to a quick picture of that object. It felt like a cop-out of sorts or trying to dumb down the film.
Other then that the film was spectacular. Hopefully they can tighten up some of the loose sequences and get rid of some of the flashbacks that don't really work.
If you use this, call me Lethalh20.
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Except for DiCaprio, I mean, him? Really? Still? After all these years? Can't wait to see Jack crazy again.
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...as much as I love Marty and as good as Gangs and Aviator were, they did feel like he was making a rather shameless pair of attempts at trying to get that Oscar...from the trailer, it's looking like he's just decided to give it a rest, cut loose, play to his strenghs and make the kind of film we love him for...besides this is the first time Scorcese has directed Jack in a film...that's monumental in it's own right!
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Instead of just saying "watch out for spoilers" why don't you highlight the sections that have spoilers so we can skip them? Because this review is useless to me (and many others on this site), I can't read it, for some crazy reason I don't like having a film spoiled prior to watching it.
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I mean, I'd happily drive to Edgewater to see a test screening..
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hopefully this can bring back his visceral power...
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It was awesome too. Check it out!!!
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Same old, same old. Why not just go the whole hog and call it Donnie Brasco 2: The Revenge Donnie.
Jack Nicholson is shit. Just thought I'd mention that to warp a few minds here. But it's true, he is. -
like I said, can't wait for movies that are worth dishing out the $$ to see
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Aug 11, 2006 4:13:17 PM CDT
What thousands must die so that Caesar may become great
by judgenxcutioner
Yes the HK version was good. I hope Scorsese and cast can do justice to the original. My most anticipated flick left this year.
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Flags of our fathers. released 22 december.
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I'd like to know what's up with Jack Nicholson's non-existent Boston accent?
Also, let's be honest, Scorcese hasn't made a great film since Goodfellas. Seriously. I mean the Aviator had it's moments, and Gangs of New York, well that was just a mess. Anyone remember Kundun? Casino was OK, a re-tread of Goodfellas and kind of dull, but OK nonetheless. At his best he was one of the all-time greats, it's really unfortunate but it just seems like he's been phoning it in for the last 15 years. The trailer makes this movie look like, A-list cast aside, a generic Donnie Brasco re-tread (which itself was an above-par re-tread of Serpico). -
You're a douchebag. They've never done that on this site and don't see a reason why they should. If you want a cookie cutter review, go to MSNBC or USA Today or Filmforce.ign.com but you'll have to wait till closer to the release date... This was a good review and I don't feel whatsoever spoiled due to the fact that the reviewer didn't tell me anything I didn't already gather for myself from the trailer....
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I mean, it was good, but as a fan of asian cinema I thought it was a very good copy of Hard Boiled. It had such crazy good word of mouth that when I saw it I was majorly underimpressed. I hope Scorcese can get back to making good movies and not overblown CG period pieces.
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fuck, that's a nasty image.
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No, you're not the only one underwhelmed by the original. BTW Hard Boiled kicked the ass off the horse and several blocks down the street. The finale in the hospital is the single best action set-piece ever commited to film...and it's all practical too, all in-camera. Now John Woo, there's a modern tragedy of wasted talent.
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Yeah, I've seen it. Scorsese will top it.
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with that "foaming at the @$$ line." C'mon, it's almost dinner time. Where do you come up with this stuff? Better still, WHY do you come up with this? ---------- On to the movie, is Jack really crazy? Does his character eat flies? I heard Jack did this while filming.
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But seriously folks, yeah John Woo, a major victim of Success and money. You want a director to make a great film? cut his budget in half, pour water over three quarters of his render farm and make him think of a more creative way to make that shot.
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You & I are (Presumably) named after characters played by the genius that is Ade Edmondson. I don't know about you, but I miss Bottom. That looks so wrong if you've no idea what I'm talking about.
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Last I heard you were in surgery - years back. Guess you pulled through. How's Spider doing these days?
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"They've never done that on this site and don't see a reason why they should." The reason is that many would like to read an early review without it spoiling the film. Why shouldn't they highlight spoilers? It would take a few seconds to do. Tell me one negative thing that would come of it.
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Maaat Daaamon!
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I remember Kundun. Kundun was actually a good film. You should give it a second shot. People give that movie too much crap, mostly due to the fact that it isn't like anything else he has made. Somewhat like "Dreams" for Kurosawa. And Modlight, great idea for Woo! Put him back in that late 80's mode and make him work for his movie!
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I think the performances will be great but changing the ending was stupid, stupid, stupid. Everyone on here should rent infernal affairs before seeing this movie.
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This movie is beautiful and will have a better life in the beyond. Scorsese, exept for Goodfellas, Ragging, and a few others, is a completely underated director. Some of his movies have flaws, Kundun is NOT one of them. Last Temptation does, After Hours as well as does Bringing out the Dead. Those movies of his that don't quite work are still far and away better than most. He keeps working and people who do that make mistakes. He keeps thinking of retiring, let's hope Leo keeps giving him things to do, Bio pics or not.
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... than any supposed "good" film by Bruckheimer, Bay, and company. Scorsese can squeeze out a bloody shit with worms (compared to Harry's ass which foams) and it's still better art than anything released by mainstream hollywood since his Aviator. And all you haters of Gangs of New York -- even though I initially didn't like the music-video gang war at the beginning or the final confrontation w/ Amsterdam and Bill the Butcher -- you've got to admit Daniel Day Lewis is a god and each scene was crammed with gorgeous, over-the-top environmental details. It gets better and better with each viewing. As a fan of Deadwood, the wardrobe, sets and eff-words looks like GONY gone west. Looking forward to this.
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at all the directors who need to get one of their arms tied behind their back. too many work under the, I can so I will mentality. Spielberg is at the top of the list. Peter Jackson, I'm looking at you too. Hal Hartley, you sell out. Kidding on that one. Romero, watch yourself. Michael Mann, you're safe, DAnny Boyle, you learned your lesson with The Beach (which I liked). any other takers?
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I really wonder how far this one will depart from the source material. Marty rocks, I'm there.
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I didn't say he hasn't made any *GOOD* movies since Goodfellas, just not any great ones. And when Scorcese is great, he's right up there in the Pantheon with Kubrick, Hitchcock and the rest. Also, the Aviator has grown on me, I even thought the man-child DeCaprio was good in it, finally.
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... even if it doesn't have man-in-suit monsters, "too late" catch phrases, sexy bean poles, Hulk Hogan, or foaming asses. And I concur: "MAAAAT DAAAMON!!!!"
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"P-U-P-K-I-N often misspelled and prounounced." Lets just say Will Ferrel owes his only laughs in Wedding Crashers to DeNiro. And Eriahm, I'd take a Bay film over a bad Scorsese because Scorsece has shown he can be great. ITs like Jesus coming back to earth and sitting around putting neosporin on wounds. We'd all look at him and say "We know you can try harder here dude." At least Bay is consitstent.
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i mean GEE WHIZZZZZZZZZZZ
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I mean, come on. I love Scorsese, but it aint him. Its the academy. "Dances With frickin Wolves" over "Goodfellas"? And how many did Kubrick rack up? A whopping zero if memory serves me. Lets not forget that "Forest Gump" is a much better and more influential film than that flash in the pan "Pulp something or other" the talky one with the butt rape.
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and took a giant visceral veiny post-mexican dinner shit over it, with a little liquid shit as sauce and delivered it in the mouths of movie-goers everywhere. he just played himself with no regard to what kind of character joker is (think closer to saw). i do NOT want to dance with the devil in the pail moonlight.
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the oscars (aka name of snobby hollywood heads who think their choices are tantamount to artistic and cinematic law) fuck the "Academy Awards" as these hollywood grassfuckers like to label themselves.
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Spider is doing fine thanks. He's gone back to the missus I think. "Imogen all the people!!!!".
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I'm not going to pretend I love it just cause Marty made it. It was 3 long hours of telling us absolutely nothing about Howard Hughes. He flew planes, crashed them, dated pretty starlettes, and went nutty from OCD, repeat. What a boring, shallow, pain by numbers biopic.
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This movie is going to rock. I wasn't sure about it at first. I loved Infernal Affairs but I didn't see a reason to remake it. After seeing the trailer I'm totally on board. Just to see Jack acting the crazy/badass thing he hasn't done in YEARS will be worth the price of admission.
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The original version was good but not great. There is definitely more potential in the story that Scorcese could bring out.
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umm scorcese's done that often in his movies.
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That is pretty fucking revolting Harry. Bravo.
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Aug 11, 2006 6:55:42 PM CDT
Interesting. Sounds like a hyper violent DONNIE BRASCO
by orbots commander
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I just lost my appetite.
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the ending of this copy has been changed and i think it lost the effectiveness because of it.
************ SPOILER ****************
in the IA HK version, the undercover snitch working as a cop (Andy Lau) wanted to go straight because everything was looking so rosey,
he's getting married, a promotion, and etc,etc, while the
undercover cop (leung chiu wei) wants out but can't and he is really descending into hell, not knowing who to trust anymore. so at the end, Andy (bad cop) was gonna bring Wei (good cop) in and
before you know it, andy's co-cop just shot Wei point blank and killed him, then andy's co-cop turns around and say "i saved your
ass, lucky they put me into the force undercover to watch and help you. don't worry brother, you can continue working for us.."(or something like that)so
in essence, Andy is STUCK in hell on earth trying to do good but can't. i hear in the new version, both of them are killed. but the
bad cop that matt plays dies later or something like that..no, that does not work mon..
also, IA HK is a trilogy and the beginning of IA-HK1 is the ending
of IA-HK3, so masterful..#2 kinda sucks but IA-HK1 and IA-HK3 were really fantastic. and yes, it's a revision of Hardboil but done really slick and well. it's almost
been matrix-fied without the wirefu and cgi. but the slickness stayed...
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Nothing cleans waxy build better than genuine Harry ass foam
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When I read the part about in-your-face exploding brains, I thought, "I will see this movie." I don't like stupid slasher movies, and I don't like pretentious, boring movies, but when you mix quality with egregious bloodshed, you had me at hello. The finger-cutting in Man on Fire (done to peppy Latino music), the ear scene in Reservoir Dogs, and even when Hulk rips a giant dog's body in half. I truly love those moments. Maybe I'm not well.
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Gangs was crud except for Daniel Day,I'm really looking forward to this even though it sounds like "State Of Grace". Gary Oldman fuckin'owned that one.
Here's looking to The Fountain,300 and Halo in '08. Gawd please,please don't fuck up these movies. Ciao. -
... not like that plantabulous excuse of a review by Nightmare for Dreamgirls
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Ooohhh. Scorcese. So he gets a free pass before anyone sees this although the movie will probably suck. That's completely understandable. After all, he does induce foaming of the ass like no one else...
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********IA's ending SPOILERS******** You only know that Ming is in "hell on earth" because of the onscreen text. Also, you only know that Yan is redeemed because of... you got it... onscreen text. Heck, we even learn about who is infiltrating who at the beginning because of... anybody? anybody? Bingo! Onscreen text. There's a slightness, a certain immaturity about it all.
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that the educational system has failed?
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Kundun is a masterpiece, as is After Hours. Two of Marty's best movies.
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Bumped back to December? I hadn't heard this.
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Any time and any place for your warped minded ignorant fucking comment about Jack. And your bro Exeter's comment about Jack and the Joker, are you kidding me, he did the Joker from "Return of the dark Knight" beyond what was humanly possible when directed by Tim "I have never read a comic book" Burton. What better actors could you get besides Jack and Brando (who lived next door to each other - Imagine those parties). Except for the stinking turd that is Leonardo De fuck face (and maybe Maaaaaat Daaamon) this looks like a god damn masterpiece.
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And for your warped minded ignorant fucking comment about DiCaprio you should be forced to join him. DiCaprio is the fucking bomb you egregious little wanker.
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Best directer in the business(my fave is still probabaly QT) plus, great story and cast. Might be a new classic.
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...Just say what worked and what didn't and don't mention any plot points or what the actual film is about so the uninitiated reader has to look it up elsewhere.
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Just incredibly ecstatic filmmaking, which is what THIS movie sounds like. I have to laugh at people who dismiss Scorsese's last decade or so. If he were named (put in crappy but young and hip director of "interesting" films here) and made Bringing Out the Dead he'd be acclaimed for making "one of those movies we'd all like to see, which is about the madness of trying to deal with strangers at the end of life in the City of Death"; if he were named (plunk critically-acclaimed director of total box office failures and not a single hit here) his Kundun would be called "mesmerizing, and DARING in this age of MTV-eye-fry quick cuts"; if he were thirty years younger Casino would be acclaimed as the best crime film since Goodfellas with "eye-popping visual bravura" or whatever. When you look at cinema history classes the lamest movies by name directors get analyzed for keys to their directors' style and intentions--Scorsese does them one better, even his worst movies are very watchable and accesible to the general movie watcher AND there's lots for us movie freaks to chew on. Just because he isn't a fanboy and doesn't kiss ass like Tarantino, we get people putting down his movies. If Tarantino made Casino, y'all'd STILL be having orgasms over it. And Scorsese's movies have got to have the best re-watchability quotient of any director's.
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And are you shitting me about DiCaprio? Just because he was your pubescent masterbatory fantansy owing to the fact that your pugdy pasty nasty teeth british ass couldn't get a boyfriend DOESN'T mean shit. He can't act his way out of a wet sock - EVER SEE "The Beach" Bitch? Da bomb? Now that is funny. He has the body of Paris Hilton and about the same acting skills.
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I wish i could chat like Marty! can't wait for this! the original was ok but the trailer to this is great and the cast is top! and the director is back doing gangsters again so IT WILL KICK ASS! can't believe we have DE Palma back where he belongs too with Black Dahlia! All we need now is another Nam movie from Crappola.
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Why do you want to kick a donkey? Why my donkey? I don't even have a donkey, although Richie once had a brief and disgusting fling with an oven ready chicken. Ask Vim about that, he knows the full story. Anyway, no donkeys here in Hammersmith so you'll have to find one at your end if you're still determined.
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It's not "imagine those parties", it's "Imogen those parties". Try listening to your records properly, you ignorant git. It's a political record, you know. Well, poetical-political anyway.
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Marty. Leo. Mark. And everyone else - Jack. Matt. What a cast. I'm hoping there are more signs of Marty in the fillmaking of "The Departed" than the reviewer said, but regardless, I'm so excited for this! :)
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Aug 12, 2006 1:49:23 PM CDT
King of Comedy, After Hours, AND, Who's That Knocking..
by danielkurland
At My Door are terribly under rated. I know "Who's that..." is his first film, but watch it again, and damn is it amazing. He made a terrific remake in Cape Fear, and there's even some really great stuff in the underseen "New York, New York". The only movie I wasn't a huge fan of, was "Age of Innocence", but I owe it another viewing. I have yet to see "Kundun", or "Last Temptation...", but he just does great work. Seriously, in King of Comedy where Deniro breaks into Jerry Lewis's house, or just Griffin Dunne (why hasn't he acted more?) in general in After Hours, all fantastic things.
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Raging Bull, Mean Streets, The Colour of Money, Goodfellas, or it's companion piece - Casino. A talent like Scorsese is a fantastic thing!
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i sure as shit didn't see the comic book joker in jack's 'performance' (aka playing himself in every movie since). so no clue where you got that out of your bumbling head, this guy should stick to impersonating ace ventura's talking out of his ass routine.
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Big chink wanker out looking for a donkey. Man I feel like I should be in a Kevin Smith film.
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....Smith just announced that he is indeed making his next film based on your life. "Complete Twat: The Beginning" will hit the theatres in time for the Christmas season next year.
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I don'ty know why, but a lot of great filmmakers just lose their way for some reason. Scorsese, Oliver Stone, and Coppola come to mind. These guys made some unbelievable films, then turned to total and utter shit for no apparent reason. I swear, Scorsese has not made a good film in almost 15 years. He made one of my favorites of all time, The Last Temptation of Christ, which is a masterpiece in every sense of the word. But he's done, his movies suck now, badly. Bringing Out The Dead? Casino? Gangs? Aviator? Kundun? I saw all but Aviator in the theater, to give the guy a chance, but they all stunk like shit. I won't be seeing this. The trailer makes it look AWFUL. Easily one of the worst trailers I have ever seen. Scorsese is old. Stone is old. Cronenberg is the only one to remain consistent, him and Michael Mann. The rest are shite.
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are all better than anything Michael Mann has EVER done. And if you think Michael Mann is remaining "consistent" then please explain the load of shite that is Miami Vice ... or was he just always this mundane and awful?
In my opinion, The Last Temptation of Christ was Scorsese's absolute worst effort. Just listening to Harvey Keitel's utterances spoken in 20th century gangsterese was enough to make me bust a gasket, but the rest of it was equally and uncharacteristically laughable. Willem Dafoe as Christ ... arghhhhhhh. Anyone who has the balls to complain that DiCaprio is miscast in ANY of Scorsese's films, please refer to this travesty for a genuine example of an entire cast gone horribly wrong. -
Do you think he'll be able to get Jack to play in it? Based on a charachter totally unrelated to the comic version? Oh and Michael Mann to produce? Cool man. As long as DiCaprio isn't any where near the film.
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Except for the terrible old-age makeup at the end, it's every bit as technically accomplished as GOODFELLAS, which I think is the other candidate. Then I'd pitch in RAGING BULL, TAXI DRIVER, THE KING OF COMEDY (a bit too long, but still a masterpiece), AFTER HOURS, THE LAST WALTZ, AMERICAN BOY, and MEAN STREETS. ALICE DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE and MY VOYAGE TO ITALY are close. But nothing since AGE OF INNOCENCE has been much better than pretty good (THE AVIATOR), and GANGS was downright dreadful.
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of the 90's. He said so on Ebert's show. "Heat" is better then anything Scorcesse has done since "Goodfellas".
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Scorcese remaking Hong Kong movies! Hollywood hits bottom.
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I hear Smith is on the lookout for someone to play you who is a good representation of the original - apparently only flamboyantly gay actors can apply.
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If you need any help with the character work just let me know. It will be up to you to make the adjustment from hetro to flaming but I know you can hanle that, heck you've done it before.
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I am cautiously optimistic, but haven't really gotten over the betrayal I felt after watching Gangs a New Yawk. I had been looking forward to that one for 15 years, but Sheesh-Ka-Bob! Wotta mess! Seriously, that film would have had been GREAT if it had been a musical. I mean, you already had the ridiculously choreographed fight scenes, the giant sound stage sets, the massive scene-chewing, kooky costumes and gargantuan HATS! All you needed was a little song and dance razz-ma-tazz, a la Chicago or Moulin Rouge, and the film coulda been a contendah. THE BEST SCORCESE (from most recent to earliest): No Direction Home (first half), Kundun, Goodfellas, After Hours, The King of Comedy, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Mean Streets. THE NOT GREAT, BUT STILL BETTER THAN MOST: The Aviator (Look! Up in the Sky! It
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...and even then it would be forced. Which isn't cricket, if you know what I mean. Don't feel bad about it though, I hear Richard Simmons is being courted for the role. Talk about born for a part, eh? You must be pleased with that casting.
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As is Heat. Casino is shit. Gangs is shit. Aviator is shit. Thief is tough, a great movie. Heat is a masterpiece. And Miami Vice? Movie of the year. Easily the best cinematography so far this year, and easily one of the best cop movies in years. Tough and serious, no stupid jokes. Sure there was some cheese, but that's only cause Farrell and Foxx are no DeNiro and Pacino. Mann always has cheesy lines, but has good actors who say them well.
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Richard had already been attached to play your boyfriend. When did your Bio get the green light? Was it the money men that insisted on explicit love scenes between you two?
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...only in your oddly shaped dreams. It would appear that "Complete Twat: The Begginning" is firmly centered around your life story, although obviously Scorcese is going to court controversy in trying to bring the bestiality scene to fruition. According to reports he's determined to get it in there, so to speak, to give a good look at the life of pervy sheep shagging ass bandits in the early 21st century. Good to know he's in your corner, eh?
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Who could pull off the Bestiality scenes better than Gene Simmons, which is why he wanted this role so bad. Sorry how your love scene ended up. Have you gotten tested since then?
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... i really hope Scorsese is back into making the excelent movies we got used to. The original HK movie was pretty good (a bit unballanced, clearly showing it was made by two directors, as if one did the action stuff and the other the drama stuff), with a very strong, powerful ending. Let us see what the studios and the MPAA let Scorsese get away with this time. Anf if they have the same endings as the HK version, colour me impressed.
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.... are The Age of Innocence and The Last Temptation of Christ boring movies? I don't want to live in that universe, that's for sure!!!
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