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An update from Kevin Smith from last night's NJ CLERKS Roadshow screening regarding his horror movie!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with an update straight from the luscious lips of Kevin Smith about those rumors of him doing a straight up horror movie as his next project. He confirms it here, from the Redbank Rolling Roadshow screening of CLERKS! Sounds great to me!!

Hey, Quint -

I was at the showing of Clerks in Red Bank last night from the Netflix Rolling Roadshow. The reason I'm emailing you is because of a nice chunk of info that came out of the event. I already sent this to Bloody-Disgusting, so here's an exact copy paste from what I sent them -

Kevin Smith is seriously doing a horror movie as his next project.

I went to the Clerks showing in Red Bank, NJ tonight where Kevin Smith did an hour-long Q&A before the show. One kid asked him about the horror movie rumor and he confirmed it as being true. From what I can remember, he said, "Yes, I am doing a horror movie next. It's entitled 'Jersey Girl 2.' No, I'm kidding, but yes, I am doing a horror movie next." When asked if it would be a comedy horror, "No, its going to be straight horror. I feel after 7 comedies its time to take a left turn and do a straight up different movie, in this case horror. Its gonna have all of the horror you'd expect, blood and guts...and tits. No, no, no, not that, I'm talkin about man tits. What? What's so bad about man tits? I have tits! They're sexy! And hairy...but, yeah, I'm doin a horror movie." And finally, when asked as to when, he said that it "wouldn't be for a year or two. I just got done makin a movie, I'm not rushing into another. Probably two years."

Keep in mind that that is mostly all paraphrased quotes from Kevin Smith. I was standing five feet from him as he confirmed the rumors. Another thing, though, is that he made it clear that they were going to be doing it entirely in LA, so besides this being a step away from his comedy roots, he is also stepping away from NJ. While this is will probably be a disappointment to many of his NJ fans, such as me (I live 10 miles from the Quick Stop), the movie will have nothing to do with the Askewniverse. He's keeping that for the comedies.

Call me Kyle Brylczyk if you use this. I don't give a crap about hiding my identity, lol.

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  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't be bothered about my identity

    by Hell_Bender

    If that identity wasn't oddly similar to that of a a lesser-known Superman Villain.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by Frederika Bimmel


  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Bla bla bla

    by potvsktl

    Kevin Smith is a fat.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Fat? yeah

    by Frederika Bimmel

    But fat movie directors pwn!

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Hopefully it's a vampire movie...

    by Heckles

    because I bet it will suck... hilarious! Hahahaha! Okay, that was bad. Jersey Girl rocked man!

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2 has only been out 3 weeks

    by JuggFuckler

    and Kev is already shilling his next bad movie. He figures that eventhough his low budget comedies keep failing, a low budget horror film has to be profitable. Please just fucking quit already.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Been of fan of Smith for years...

    by beastie

    ... I just hope this does not end up being anything like 'Scream' which was supposedly very influenced by his work. I think he should try his hand at adult comedies, and not Jersey Girl main-stream adult comedies. Something more along the lines of old Neil LaBute or Woody Allen. I even think that he could make a sequel to Parenthood and make it good.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:02 p.m. CST

    When I first heard about this I was misunderstood...

    by nomihs

    I hear that Smith wants to take it to another level of man tits. I guess as long as he keeps the over used cameos down from his buds I think it would be a fresh of breath air. Keep em guessing I guess.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST


    by vanfan

    Hopefully its an alien abdusction movie with hints of romance and ABSOLUTELY NO DRUG USE!!!

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Uh, Kev . . .

    by Mechasheeva

    In order to make a decent, scary horror movie you need some skill at directing. Your scripts are good, your jokes are hilarious, Clerks 2 was the funniest shit I've seen in years, but let's face it, as a director you're ho-hum at best. Very little actual style. That is why your horror movie will probably not be so good. Unless you cast Jason Mewes as either the hero or the psycho killer.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST


    by peopleintrees

    Neill Blomkamp is directing Halo the movie. He did the short called Alive in Joburg. Googlevideo it, its a pretty cool short. I got the scoop from . I sent many emails notifying harry and quint. hopefully we'll get an official thread from them. But you know how it is here, aintitcool are just a bunch of johnny-come-latelys.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:21 p.m. CST

    those better be paraphrases, because otherwise

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    kevin has lost the funny.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:25 p.m. CST

    JuggFuckler- learn math

    by RenoNevada2000

    Let's see... CLERKS 2 cost about 5 million bucks to make, had already made that amount back in foreign sales before the film even opened in the US and has pulled as of Monday 22.5 million. So that's 27.5 million dollars in receipts versus 5 million in production costs and an undisclosed amount for advertising, but probably no more than an additional 5 million. How exactly is that failing and non-profitable?

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:31 p.m. CST

    "not rushing into another movie"

    by McGsStepson

    read: i can't get financing and there is not a studio this side of porn that would greenlight this project. so be it i say, kevin smith can flush himself and Darth Evil Dead down the toilet.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Interesting, but

    by squarefoot

    I was really hoping to read about every time he "giggled" or "sighed" or said "umm..." during the Q&A.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    make it a undead movie with zombies that jog

    by durhay

    Not walking, but not fully running either.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Obviously the germ of this idea lies in...

    by MrBoinfoint

    Mewes' Buffalo Bill dance in Clerks 2.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:34 p.m. CST

    actually, it's a whore movie, not horror.

    by durhay

    he was misquoted.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I'll be visiting Kevin Smith next month...

    by Darth Evil Dead

    So I will ask him about this... Plus when did Kevin ever say he was a good director.. If you ask him straight up.. "Yo Kevin are you a good Director?" He will tell you straight up...that he cant direct worth shit.. He knows that... Its just that if know one wants to direct his stuff for him.. So in order for him to get the crap he wants up on screen.. He has to direct it himself..

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST


    by Rowley Birkin QC

    It's always funny when you make self-deprecating jokes about your shitty movies. You don't do it nearly enough. Now all you need to do is talk about how you've just been fucking your wife, and we won't see you for the insecure, emotionally stunted man-child you are.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I like Kevin's movies but....

    by BilboRing

    I have to admit that they tank at the box office. How does he fund his movies? From the money he makes visiting colleges? Has he had one big hit?

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see what he comes up with....

    by Undead Neverhood

    for a horror movie. I hope its some wildass over the top zombie stuff...or some really scary shit like how the omen movies scared everyone back in the day. Kevin is a big movie fan like the rest of us (Well some of us anyway) so I'm sure he will come up with something cool.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I think Kevin Smith films own your mom...

    by HitchCock'n'Balz

    all the naysayers and b.s. spitters on this TB know dick about dick...Smith is a mastermind and whatever project he decides to delve into next you can bet that it will A) Be relevant B) Be irreverent to all things and C) Not Suck ... and if I were a bookie in Vegas I'd lay money down saying that it also makes a profit...

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 1:58 p.m. CST

    RenoNevada2000 you are retarded

    by JuggFuckler

    Just because a movie cost five million dollars to make, any box office gross beyond five mil doesn't makes it profitable. The studios only collect about fifty five percent of the box office revenue. So,

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:08 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    You know as much about the movie industry as you know about pleasing a woman.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST


    by JuggFuckler

    "You know as much about the movie industry as you know about pleasing a woman." That

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Let's get off of mothers

    by BayouWilly

    After all, I just got off of yours.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Yo moma so fat

    by JuggFuckler

    I really am quite concerned about her health.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST

    wow, is this move gonna suck or what??

    by chickychow

    maybe not, maybe horror will be his forte. comedy sure isnt.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2

    by El_Aurens

    If Clerks 2 was as successful as Kevin

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    if you purportedly had sex with my mother, does this mean you're a Chubby Chaser? Eww...

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST


    by JuggFuckler

    I must admit, I am a fan of the bigger ladies.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    re: Clerks 2

    by BayouWilly

    Oh, no doubt it didn't perform up to what Smith and Harvey would have liked it to. It still made a profit, though. And with all the dvds and merch and assorted crap it'll end up making a nice one. That said, I went to the movie and laughed my ass off. However, I can fully understand why it didn't do well in a summer of Pirates and Ricky Bobbys and the like.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Are you a bigger man?

    by BayouWilly

    Just askin'.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    actually, JuggFuckler is pretty accurate

    by theBigE

    I can't believe I wrote JF's stupid name in my subject line! But his math is pretty accurate from what I know of the movie business. Theaters average about 50% of the ticket sales, so a 22 million dollar film makes the studios 11 million, roughly. Subtract advertising, costs of prints, etc... Remember Eddie Murphy's Coming to America? Art Buchwald (is that his name?) sued for a piece of that movie, said he should be credited for the story, but the studio countered that the movie LOST money, even though it made over $100 million at the box office. That was more than double the movie budget, and it still lost money.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Fraid not

    by JuggFuckler

    I'm a buck twenty five soaking wet. I like to that's what makes my lovin on big girls so hot. And so special.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2 was pretty amazing

    by Mechasheeva

    I think the disappointing box office has more to do with the general public not being aware of the original Clerks. There's a fairly sizable rabid fanbase for that movie, sure, but the general public that'll turn up for something like Ricky Bobby wouldn't be drawn to it nearly as much. It also didn't help that almost all the reviews said that half the jokes will go over your head if you're not a fan of the Askewniverse (say it, it's a fun word!). But Clerks 2 will have just as much DVD shelf life as anything else Smith has done, which means it will turn a profit and continue to be profitable for awhile.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST

    good idea kevin smith

    by zooch

    He's finally going another direction, make a different kind of film, one we can all enjoy, hoepfully it is successful.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2

    by blackwood

    was great. I think the disappointing box office has a lot to do with moon people, snack crackers, the Christian Right/the Athiest Left/the Buddist Middle, and Mother's Against Donkey Rimming.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Will most likely be about the Jersey Devil

    by boba_rob

    If I remember correctly, Kevin said years ago that he wanted to do, or had written something already, about the Jersey Devil. It would make sense and keep Kevin's movie world firmly planted in Jersey. By the way, CLeRks II ruled! Hooray for Mr. Puffy Pants!

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    It's Pillow Pants

    by blackwood

    And hooray indeed.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Bravo Smith.

    by rbatty024

    I'm looking forward to Smith doing something different. He's kind of like the slow student in class, who all of a sudden shows potential, and you hope has more talent than he's actually showing.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    by hallmitchell

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Box office and Kevin Smith.

    by hallmitchell

    First. I applaud a new direction. Second. This is from an interview I heard with a studio executive. He said a movie has to make two and half times it's budget to start making a profit. At the moment that would make Superman Returns a big flop and Clerks 2 a hit.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Does anyone else think CLERKS 2 sucked?

    by falawful-314

    And I don't mean "kind of sucks," or "I don't go in for dick/fart/gay jokes." I mean, it sucked eight ways from Sunday (whatever that means). The characters were unlikable, the actors were horrible, the script was repetitive and dull. (A) I can't feel sorry for a guy who has two hot women fighting for him, despite the fact that he's a whiny bitch. (B) There's nothing clever or interesting about picking on the stock Christian-geek-virgin character who's such a fucking mark that there's hardly any need to insult the guy in words. (C) And God, how I want to tell Smith that just putting Jay and Bob on screen does not automatically, by itself, spell hilarity. "Hey look, it's Jay! And he's standing around! HAHAHAHAHA!" I like a good dick/fart/gay joke as much as the next guy. Perhaps I need the GOOD in capital letters. Having a couple of unlikable guys standing around saying "dick/fart/gay" doesn't do it. It got surprisingly good reviews, and some people I otherwise respect seemed to find it funny, but it was the first Smith film that I absolutely hated, and among the few I can think of that I wanted to walk out of.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Kevin's new direction.

    by hallmitchell

    I applaud it. Yet he has said that Strikes back would be his last Jersey movie. What happened to Fletch, Ranger Danger and Green Hornet? All exciting prospects for Kevin Smith. All I ask is that Kevin makes something else. He's got some great stories in that head of his.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Smith Talks Too Much Shit

    by The Ender

    Calling people gay and making fun of movies (Jackman) (Superman, Even though Smith's ideas for superman were are among the stupidist of shits I have ever heard of). Jersey Girl Sucked ass, Chasing Amy is fucking boring. And Clerks is decent because of Jay, not silent Bob. I liked Smith before he started trash talking more talented and more well spoken people.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Box Office Take

    by fxbob

    I feel the need to clear up a misconception that I have seen now here and also over in quints Brian Singer one on one. I have seen a lot of people mention studios get about 55% or the ticket prices and that just isn't the case. For anyone who doesn't know but is interested do some research on why concession prices are so high and you'll find information on ticket revenue distobution. In its simplest form it works like this: For each and every movie the studiio sets a different percentage of the "take" as theirs and then it goes on a sliding scale. I have personally in the past seen this percentage range from 75% to as high as 98% for the first week of release. After that first week, the studio takes a smaller and smaller percentage of the sales. I have seen movies that are out for a tremendous amount of time split to where the studio takes as little as 30%. If you look at the number of theaters a movie is released to currently you will often find that somewhere between weeks 3 and 5 the number of creen is reduced considerably. This schedule that this occurs *can* be affected by a particular films popularity, but usually is predetermined. In the case of Clerks 2 the number of screens drops in week three from 2100+ to just under 1500. The point here is that you don't know what the studios deal is from week to week unless you have seen the contracts. While it is possible that over the life of certain films the divison skews close to 55-45 or even 50-50, most release schedules are scrutinized to make sure the the studios percentage is much higher than that. Over the first three weeks of release, I GUARANTEE that the studio took much much more than 55% of that 22mil.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:39 p.m. CST


    by fxbob

    For lack of an edit function, some spelling was lost...sad

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:44 p.m. CST


    by RenoNevada2000

    Care to source your quote of 20 million for advertising?

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST


    by Quin the Eskimo

    JuggFuckler is an idiot if he thinks they spent 20 million on marketing

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2 = profit

    by the_pissboy1

    Not sure what the hell is wrong with people but Clerks 2 is already profitable and with video, dvd, rentals, HBO, etc the damned thing is a pot of gold for WTC and Smith. Not to mention it's his best movie since chasing amy - hands down. Pillow Pants rules.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Juggfuckler's dumb.

    by Flickerhead

    50%-55%, you say? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Whew! Ah, kids say the darndest things.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Why is Smith talking ...

    by Flickerhead

    ... about his next project already? It might have something to do with the fact that someone asked him about it, eh? Dumbasses, I swear.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:07 p.m. CST

    20 mil martketing

    by fxbob

    I wasn't going to touch this becuase there is no source that anyone can point to that supports or refutes this. Oh, other than Kev's own blog where he states that they spent less money marketing this than they did J&SB Strikes Back, but no dollar figure. Having said that, if someone can show me concrete proof that the Weinsteins would spend FOUR TIMES the porduction budget on marketing on a movie that everyone associated with knows has a built in core audience that need zero marketing beyond big Kev's personal pimping -- I'll eat my hat.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by fxbob

    see above. RE: spelling RE: sigh

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Leave Juggfuckler alone!

    by BayouWilly

    Someone has to make the donuts, and fuck the fatties...

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:26 p.m. CST


    by Total_Kneebiter

    It is becuse you are ineffectual net nerds that are still pissed off that your Ninjas vs robots set in feudal japan starring girls in school uniforms didn't get made into a movie, or you're still chafed from jerking off too hard to your moms picture. Nuff said. The mans a fucking genius. END OF LINE

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Laughing so hard at Juggfuckler's story...

    by Roguewriter

    ... I don't even have the strength left to bitch-slam you Kevin Smith naysayers. Someone please help cleanse my eyes of the image of scrawny J.F. bouncing around like a mountain goat atop Bayou Willy's momma... (And for the record, anyone who dismisses Smith's films as nothing more than dick-n-fart-joke juvenilia is missing a lot of heart and soul, not to mention really clever fucking writing... all of which is especially evident in CLERKS II. But really -- keep hatin. It's much cooler a clique without all the dorks trying to push their way in...) ;)

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:29 p.m. CST


    by Total_Kneebiter

    I gotta EAT the donuts and SMOKE the fatties. Just thought Id throw that out there END OF LINE

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2 > This talkback...

    by Giz

    Pillowpants already did all your mams...

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Every Kevin Smith movie...

    by zacdilone a horror movie. It's just plain scary that he is allowed to keep making films.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Didn't he close the book on viewaskew

    by #1 Zero

    At the end of Jay and Silent Bob strike back credits I could swear that Alanis Morrisette literally closes a book on the shot of the viewaskew universe guys. I thought this was Smith saying he was done playing in that universe and going to do other types of movies. I guess when those movies (a Greenhornet movie in development but not being made, Fletch in development but not being made, and of course Jersey Girl) didn't come to fruition or failed he reverted to Clerks II and a core audience that was bound to see that. I actually think somewhere along the end of Jay and Bob strike back that he said he wouldnt do another viewaskew universe movie. I guess he couldn't leave his bread and butter. With the quality of R rated horror movies like Hostel and Descent out there with non static camera movement, I think Kevin Smith's point and shoot from a stationary position camera direction would make for a lackluster horror. He needs a wild dp for this or his regular dp needs to break the chains so to speak. I think he's biting off more than he can chew with a horror.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    I'm that kid

    by Sheir

    Ahaha, I asked Kevin Smith that question.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Oh shit

    by JuggFuckler

    I have upset the fourteen year old Kevin Smith fans. Woe is me. Clerks 2 is the greatest movie of all time! Dogma made me change the way that I think about God and Alanis Morisette! Kevin Smith

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST


    by Quin the Eskimo

    Don't change the subject, where in the fucking sphincter of hell did you come up with $20 million dollars for the marketing of Clerks 2?

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 6:25 p.m. CST

    It's funny how much controversy Kevin Smith...

    by rbatty024

    brings up. Is Smith a great filmaker? No, not by a long shot, but he's certainly a good filmaker. There are very few comedies out there that are the slightest bit funny, much less comedies that try and delve into a little characterization. When a Kevin Smith film is good, then it does just that. It fills a niche that no other director's are willing or even want to film. I'm sorry, but I'll take a Kevin Smith film over the trite that Will Ferrell is putting out any day.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Horror movie?

    by Lovecraftfan

    I like Smith's movies. Theyre not great and Clerks 2 is massively overrated by everyone here BUT I like his movies. Still doesnt he even admit that hes really not a good director? How is he going to do a horror film? That would require tense directing.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST

    he's just OK

    by reckni

    Horror though? I'm not holding my breath.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 8:18 p.m. CST

    7 movies?!?

    by tHEmOOG

    where the hell does all the money come from? 7 suckfests. ksmith sucks cause he cant bring it.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    7 movies?!?

    by tHEmOOG

    where the hell does all the money come from? 7 suckfests. ksmith sucks cause he cant bring it.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    7 movies?!?

    by tHEmOOG

    where the hell does all the money come from? 7 suckfests. ksmith sucks cause he cant bring it.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 8:26 p.m. CST

    How long before Smith announces...

    by Immortal_Fish

    ...that he's scrapped the idea and will instead do another Jersey flick. Big fan here. Love most of his movies and only like the rest (only like? yep), but I have to call a spade a spade here. The closest Smith has gotten to experimenting was Jersey Girl. Was that truly experimenting? He should have stuck with Hornet and now should at least keep persuing Fletch One.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Smith is bigger than his movies

    by fiester

    (no pun intended) and that's the problem. A director should be behind the scenes, man--who else is more out there than Smith? Maybe M. Night Dingdong? Another egomaniac. It's usually the sign of a bad director when they are the show and their movie is secondary to that show.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 9:33 p.m. CST

    i think its neat.....

    by LHombreSiniestro

    that robert rodriguez, quentin tarantino, and kevin smith's next flicks are gonna be horror movies. i didnt see that one coming.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Here is the $20 million marketing confirmation..

    by AlexCentauri

    "Kevin Smith's Clerks II, while costing only a fraction of Lady, earned only $9.6 million. Although the film reportedly cost about $5 million to make, it cost about $20 million to market." From IMDB's box office report, posted July 24th. By the way, Clerks 2 was terrible.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Kevin can't bring it, moog...

    by Roguewriter

    cuz there's no room left after you brought it like nineteen times. Stop hitting the send button, ya fuckin mook. Nooge. ;)

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    Because IMDB is a bastion of reliability.

    by I Dunno

    There's no way in hell that the marketing for Clerks 2 was $20 mill but even if it was, it would still be a few mill shy of being in the black and it hasn't hit DVD yet. But generally a movie has to make 1 1/2 times its budget to make a profit and it more than did that so what is everyone arguing about?

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 11:25 p.m. CST


    by LHombreSiniestro

    what's a mook?......i'll give ya "mook"!!

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Clerks 2 is currently at 22.7 million...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...According to It'll probably top out at 25 million by the time it's pulled, and do fairly respectably on the DVD shelf, so Smith's okay. For me, the movie was nearly wrecked by that half-witted donkey scene, but redeemed by Smith finding a way to bounce Rosario Dawson's titties around. Also, Randal's "fuck what everybody else expects from you" speech at the end.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 4:01 a.m. CST

    I thought it'd be a trailer...

    by Darth Kong

    ...for Grindhouse. That woulda been cool.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Is Clerks 2 on DVD yet????

    by Hokeybutt

    I mean, come on... it's been 3 weeks... what's the hold-up?

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 5:09 a.m. CST

    A horror movie next?

    by mrfan

    Well, since he already announced it then it will probably be cancelled soon. He has a nasty habit of saying that what his next project is then flat out going the other direction. So I expect to see a comedic Shakespeare coming soon with the cast from Clerks 2. It should be exciting.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Quin the Eskimo, Roguewriter,RenoNevada2000

    by JuggFuckler

    If do don

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Here is alink to the 20mil ad budget of Clerks 2

    by El_Aurens

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 8:29 a.m. CST


    by MaryTylerMorbid

    There is absolutely no doubt that Kevin Smith's horror movie will be a turd of monstrous proportions. Guy has absolutely zero filmmaking talent. And he's even worse as a writer. Need both of those to be able to make a competent horror film. What a joke.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Juggfuckler and Ilk

    by Flickerhead

    Jugg, are you aware of how stupid you sound? In my opinion, Smith has made a couple of really good movies, a couple of really bad ones, and a handful that were mediocre--in other words, about the same batting average as most other successful directors. The point is, I'm not a Smith "fanboy," but even I can see that your inexplicable hatred of Smith's work has led you to say some ridiculous things that make you look like a big dummy talking out of your depth. Rage all you will, if Smith weren't making profitable films for his studio, he'd be working at Wal-Mart by now. That's the reality, son.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 8:41 a.m. CST

    I never said I hated Smith or his movies

    by JuggFuckler

    I was just pointing out that Smith has abandoned Clerks 2 just a little too early by talking about his next project. This change combined with the dismal box office of Clerks 2 is indicative of its lack of success. Then the fanboys pounced on me. I don

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 8:56 a.m. CST

    A new low for you fuckers.

    by Winterchili

    Arguing over whether or not his movies make money? Who gives a shit? If his movies weren't successful he wouldn't continue to get funding. God you guys are so stupid.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 9:02 a.m. CST

    "Everything I have stated is factual."

    by Roguewriter

    Oh my god. Make some fuckin room, boys -- Donny Rumsfeld in da house! Welcome, sir. Thanks for the "facts." Would you care for a piping hot mug of shutthefuckup?

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 9:13 a.m. CST

    "I never said I hated Smith or his movies"

    by Flickerhead

    Don't change your tune now, Jugg. You said "Smith's movies are for retards and 13-year-olds," and implied that Uwe Boll is a better director. You may be acting like a buffoon, but at least have the courage of your convictions and stick by your story.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Jugg ...

    by Flickerhead

    In case you missed my earlier post, Smith was talking about his next project because *someone asked him about it.* Answering a question about his next film is hardly "abandoning" his current film. I mean, for fuck's sake.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST


    by El_Aurens

    I can understand that you guys are Kevin Smith fans (Askewies?) but seroiusly? Are you guys arguing that Clerks 2 made money? That Smith makes good movies? I understand that it is your job to stick up for Kevin Smith becuase he is insecure enough to moniter the internet for any and all criticism directed towards him, but no one can successfully argue that a. Smiths movies are good and b. Clerks 2 was successful. Anything else is just a bunch of dumbass ass kissing for an overated director (i use the term loosely).

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST


    by RenoNevada2000

    Thanks for sharing with us a picture of your dinner. Now wil you let the grown-ups talk?

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    most filmmakers begin with horror, he's going backwards

    by Hate_Speech

    He jumped the shark with Jersey Girl

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by smorgasborgnine

    this story was posted for less than a day and you couldn't keep your stupid mouth shut. This is what I meant last time about the haters. You claim his inabilities and hatred for all he stand for, yet you just can't stay away. And then you quickly fall into that childish action of, "Nuh-uh! You suck!" without justifying your opinions. I'm probably falling into your trap, however, because I'm sure you fire off these rants knowing that his fans are gonna respond to your lame little ideas. You're probably sitting at home, reading this whilst stroking that little gummi-bear-esque-in-proportion "manhood", thinking that you have finally found a way to get attention in life. Haters wanna hate... lovers wanna love... I don't even want... none of the above... I wanna piss on you.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Wow, just wow.

    by JuggFuckler

    Is this the viewaskew message board? Did I say that his wife is a big earred tranny? Alls I said was that Clerks 2 is a financial dissapointment and that Kevin Smith is a bad director. I'm not going to stoop to humoring a bunch of adolescent Kevin Smith by resorting gummibear genital references.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:17 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    You can't argue Smith's movies are good. You can't argue any movies are good. I can't argue The Godfather II is good. Taste it subjective. Your sense of humor, judging from that link, is pre-pubescent and gay. Others like Smith, or the Farrely brothers, or Woody Allen, or Kevin Costner movies. Either you like Smith or you don't, and it's no use trying to goad someone into a discussion unless you are sad and lonely. Like Juggfuckler.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I think I may be in the wrong place

    by El_Aurens

    You Kevin Smith hater-haters are getting kinda of scary. This place has become pretty closed minded and intolerant. I'm moving back to Alabama.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:30 p.m. CST


    by forrest52

    Did you see a single movie poster or billboard, or commercial for that matter for Clerks 2? There wasn't any anywhere they did complete internet and word of mouth and hit the talk show circuit and that was it. Weinsteins are intelligent businessmen they would never spend 15 million dollars more than a movies budget, when knowing going in that the movie is only going to make 25-30 million.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Now that is just retarded

    by JuggFuckler

    This is the last time I'm going to indulge you geniuses by posting. Yes, I saw several commercials and posters for Clerks 2 you crackhead. The "Weinsteins are intelligent businessmen" they would not put a movie in 2k theatres in the middle of summer without advertising it. You guys are really reaching now. If you don't belive the IMDB budget figure then I am afraid that I can't help you. Later.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:53 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    Juggfuckler, come back!!! Ah well.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST

    IMDB's report

    by RenoNevada2000

    Gives no attribution for that figure of $20 million on advertising. Honestly, I've found the IMDb's reporting, when not just parotting gossip from British tabloids, to be spotty at best. Besides, can you name any other film that earned TWICE ITS BUDGET on opening weekend?

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by El_Aurens

    Saw earned about 12 times its budget on opening weekend. Blair Witch did about 20x its budget on opening weekend, that was from only 27 theatres. I could keep going on and on but I know how bad you Kevin Smith fans are at math, so I

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    saw Clerks 2 last week

    by JimBelushi

    it sucked hard and the theatre was totally empty. I know that how people feel about movies is a matter of personal taste but you can't deny the fact that an empty theatre loses money and a full theatre makes money. Get bent out of shape all you wnat but no studio EXPECTS a movie to only make 25 million dollars. Clerks 2 was a dissapointment and it's time to movie on.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    JimBelushi and JuggFuckler

    by forrest52

    So what your trying to say is that a company that has put out his movies in the past and each of those movies grossed around 25-30 million expected the next movie in line to make a shitload more? Thats just sheer stupidity and no matter how dumb you might think they are, no one is that dumb as for IMDB thats the same place that said Aunt May in the new Spiderman movie is Carnage. Anyone can add stuff on that website as long as it is presented well. Hell I have a fuckin profile on IMDB and I am just a PA.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST


    by JimBelushi


  • Aug. 10, 2006, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Oh, btw

    by JimBelushi

    El Aurens owns RenoNevada 2000.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Is It Possible to Respect Smith?!

    by crumbknuckler

    a quote from Kevin Smith: "I don't feel that I have to go back and view European or other foreign films because I feel like these guys [i.e. Jarmusch and others] have already done it for me, and I'm getting it filtered through them. That ethic works for me." maybe that's why none of his films work for me.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 3:04 p.m. CST


    by muscelyarm


  • Aug. 10, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    El Aurens

    by RenoNevada2000

    I'll admit that comment was supposed to end with "... this summer." Still your two examples leads me to ask, what else have those directors done? James Wan hasn't released a second movie so we can't judge his track record. And the BLAIR WITCH guys? What have they lately or at all since the release of BWP? Like them or not, Smith has continually made films that find an audience and turn a profit.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Jim Belushi

    by RenoNevada2000

    Thanks for demonstrating that God took the wrong Belushi brother.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Every Kevin Smith Film Has Been Profitalble

    by Damitol

    Once you add box office, cable and DVD sales - especially DVD sales - together, no one has ever lost money on a Kevin Smith film. *That* is why he gets to keep making them. His films don't cost much to make and aren't promoted as heavily as most films (thanks to his built in audience), so the Weinsteins are more than happy to enjoy +/- $20 million they get to keep at the end of the day and send Kevin out to make more movies. As for Kevin, he works when he wants to, works with his friends and knows that his core audience will always be there as a saftey net even if the general public don't universally embrace his work. On top of that, as writer/director/producer/actor, he has keeps of bank to live an extremely comfortable slacker life style in Beverly Hills. Love him or hate him - face it - 99% of the people on this forum would gladly give up body parts to *be* him.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    I'll never understand the vast hatred some people have around here. What, did Kevin Smith cum in your mouth? If you don't like something, that's fine. Don't talk about how such-and-such is for retards or assclowns or whatever, because chances are the same people saying that are going to see Superman Returns and listening to Nickelback while wearing Sean John.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Nothing is written

    by El_Aurens

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Jersey Girl...

    by Zorak5

    Was just like any other Kevin Smith movie only he replaced the word "fuck" with "shit," and had Will Smith as Silent Bob, AKA the guy who has a relevatory monologue.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 9:49 p.m. CST

    bickety bam

    by chipps

    kick ass. that's all i have to say. oh yeah, and snakes on a plane.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 4:26 a.m. CST

    bayouwillie is my new bestest friend

    by smorgasborgnine

    guess I hit a little too close to home with numb-bumbler. This is the "last time he's gonna indulge us "" geniuses""?" I should, ultimately, hope so. Part of me is sad, though. I've always loved picking apart these haters' pathetic excuses as to why they dislike some of these movie-makers so. Hey, limp-noodle, all we, the fans, ask is you quantify your statements so as to seperate you from the rabid pack of attack dogs who only know what "masser" teaches them. Bayou Willie is an a-o-frickin'-kay dude from now on. But, just my luck, it'll turn out he's really Dudd-buckler posting under a different name hoping to lure unsuspecting posters into a false sense of security. Hey, ButtTickler... no, this site didn't turn into the ViewAskew site... just so happens that FANS of a particular persons' work are going to post their opinions of that persons's merits. If you hate Kevin Smith so fucking much, then stay the fuck away. You only epitomize your ignorance by tossing out such silly, mamby-pamby threads on a site which is supposed to be about dork unity. We come here to trade ideas about the good and the bad. You only do yourself a disservice by trashing a guy who has it better than you and all you can do is talk shit... anonymously... Well, you're outnumbered here, pardner. You've wasted all that anger and vitriol on a talkback where the lion's share of opinion is in favor of someone doing something come Hell or high water. As I've previously posted (to no argument, to my chagrin), the reason Kevin's got so many haters is 'cause he's living the high life the way all of you can't a/o won't. Perhaps his movies truly suck as so many of you are apt to point out without clarification. Fact remains that, no matter what, you all just can't stay away. If you could, you wouldn't be here talking good or bad. The old punk band, Screeching Weasel, said it best in one of their songs: "We've got your money, why won't you go away. Now who's the dope, why won't you go away?" BayouWillie... major-league Respect Knuckles. Stay black. Sorry about the superflous size of this TB... dudes like JuddNelson-er rile me like that soulless she-bitch Ann Coulter. What happened to the days where people trafficked this site to discuss all things "fringe culture?" This seems more like playground nonsense circa 3rd grade... only without the witty repartee.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Project Greenlight quote

    by Rupee88

    I don't remember his exact quote, but when they screened "Feast" in one episode, Kev said that he wasn't generally a big fan of the horror genre.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 6:50 a.m. CST


    by JimBelushi


  • Aug. 11, 2006, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Sweet rant

    by JuggFuckler

    At first I thought you were just some jerkass punk now I know that you are bat shit crazy. Thanks for the closure.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST


    by Busting Plants

    Clerks 2 was a financial disappointment. Will it make money in the long run? Sure. But not the tens of millions of dollars he keeps claiming. The brothers Weinstein spent some real money to market the flick -- they didn't want it to completely vanish from the theaters in three weeks. And why in the hell is Kevin going around the country and screening Clerks like it's the Godfather or something? I mean, move the fuck on, man. The View Askew universe has no doubt made him rich but the well is gettting dryer by the second. But I guess he has realized it -- that's why he's going to make a horror movie even though he's on record as saying "horror isn't my thing." Desperate move for a flailing career. 10 years ago... well I expected so much more from this guy.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 4:34 p.m. CST

    mea culpa

    by smorgasborgnine

    and what a confusing rant it is. Was. 12 hours later and all I can say is that my computer should have a breath-alyzer. Doesn't change my opinion, though. Just agreeing that it was rather verbose and rambling. Despite the format, however, there are little kernels of truth which, still, no one has addressed in opposition. My word stands: haters will find any reason to hate and "waste the bandwidth" without proving a point. Oh, and Frijole... should you end up reading this, I want no shit from you. I know where you live... So, for Jim and Jug and all their ilk... 'til next time some Kevin Smith news pops up. We'll always have Redbank.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST


    by muscelyarm

    You're taking this way to far. At first I just thought that you and the teenage Smith fans were just a bunch of retards, now you are starting to freak me out. Get help.

  • Aug. 11, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Hey, I like some of Smith's stuff

    by BayouWilly

    Some I don't. I like the Clerks movies and parts of Dogma and Chasing Amy. I don't care for Mallrats or Jay and Silent Bob strike back. I think he's an entertaining guy and a good writer. I don't understand why people like to harp on failure, real or percieved. So the movie didn't blow Pirates out of the water. It made its money back. It will make a profit. Kevin Smith is for some people, not for others. Same as Woody Allen, Alfred Hitchcock, Stephen Spielberg, Zalman King. Posting on why he sucks to an article which many of his fans will read is a complete waste of time and a sign of immaturity and, more than likely, loneliness.

  • Aug. 12, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST


    by tylernol

    I just wanted to jump in here and say I agree with just about everything you've said. These Kevin Smith brown nosed retards have no idea about the economic realities of the movie business. For one thing, there is no way Clerks II only cost $5 million to produce. Productions costs include printing expenses, and every theatre that shows a film requires its own print. Those things cost in the thousands per print. Also, if it only cost $5 million, what the fuck did he pay his actors? Did they work for free. Rosaria Dawson's asking price along must be over $1 million by now. Why would anyone even want to work with this guy? It's not like he's Woody Allen, where being in one of his films gives you instant "cred" in the bidness. He must be giving them substantial kickbacks from DVD sales, it's the only thing that makes sense. And, to those morons who said it couldn't cost $20 million to market the film, go and do some research before you open your mouths. A film that was plopped into the middle of the most competitive market of the year, into 2000 theatres? Do you honestly think any studio would do that without marketing the damn thing first? Even indie films these days require marketing campaigns in the multi-millions. For a summer release, $20 million in marketing would be the bare minimum. Sheesh... The basic reality is that Smith's track record does not justify his fame. The only reason we are even discussing him here is because he represents loser wish fulfillment. He makes millions of dollars and is married to a reasonably attractive woman, so he represents hope for all no-life losers everywhere. I truly have to question those who would go on public record and defend this guy. You may as well wear a sign on your forehead saying "I am a pathetic waste of genetic material". I was in a comicbook store last week with a friend and the clerk was feverishly defending Smith to another nerd at the front. You should have seen the clerk. He was honestly the weirdest looking fucker I've ever seen. He was built like mason jar. Fat at hell, short, greasy, sweaty, and ugly as all fuck. Now, it may be mean to judge, because he can't help his appearance. However, he was the whinyest geek I've ever seen. His voice was like a woman's, all high pitched, with that sarcastic air that only the most unpopular seem to cultivate. And he was loud, going on about how Smith is some kind of misunderstood "genius" or some shit. Yeah right. And, as we were leaving, we got a whiff of the guy and I can only say it wasn't pleasant. He smelled like he wore his bowels on the outside. Add to that the yellow rotting teeth and the foul smell, and you just know he is a talkbacker here, lives with the folks, and has never kissed a girl. The point to all this is it isn't a stretch to think a loser like that would be indicative of Smith's fan base. Face it boys, he is a mediocre director at best whose films do only middling box office at the lower end of the scale. The only reason he is a "name" is because you guys who can't even make any in-roads in regular things (dating, making friends, holding a decent job) have made him one because he is one of you, yet somehow escaped your fate. Deal with it.

  • Aug. 12, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by JuggFuckler


  • Aug. 13, 2006, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Not until I get off YOUR mother BayouWilly

    by Kid Joker

  • Aug. 13, 2006, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Let's go

    by WolfmanNards

    I've got my rusty saw caked with dried blood and hair waiting in my hand to tear the tits off of you fucks for joining this new "I hate Kevin Smith" club. This could very well be the sleaziest club I've seen you guys join.

  • Aug. 13, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST

    JuggFuckler and tylenol

    by BayouWilly

    Why don't you two just fuck and get it over with?

  • Aug. 13, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    and you arrrrre...?

  • Aug. 13, 2006, 4:12 p.m. CST


    by El_Aurens

    I think that JuggFuckler and tylernol are just waiting for you and smorgasborgnine to finish up in the bathroom stall. Man, when did this bus station mens room get so crowded?

  • Aug. 14, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by BayouWilly

    When you invited the Harlem Boys Choir, I guess.

  • Aug. 15, 2006, 10 a.m. CST


    by forrest52

    You have showed us a maturity level beyond anyone I have ever seen. I commend you my friend for making a bigger ass of yourself than you already had. Congratulations your a genius.