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About That ESCAPE FROM EARTH Rumor...

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

I just counted. I’ve been e-mailed exactly 3,885,574,672 times this weekend regarding the rumor that was run at Bloody Disgusting about ESCAPE FROM EARTH, the second sequel to ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK. For those of you who didn’t read the story there or at any of the other sites that linked to it over the weekend, basically there was an anonymous scooper who claimed that Kurt Russell and John Carpenter had a top-secret meeting last week at Paramount to seal the deal on making the sequel.

Trouble is, it ain’t true. Not a word of it.

Oh, sure, John Carpenter mentioned ESCAPE FROM EARTH as a possibility several times when he was doing press for ESCAPE FROM LA, and I remember when Debra Hill was actively working to resuscitate the Snake Plissken franchise through comic books. Fans are obviously still very fond of the character and the possibility of a sequel based on the volume of mail we got about it. Hell, even our very own Vern wrote me a sternly-worded letter in which he demanded that I get the truth sorted out immediately.

We were already working on it, though. We got the same e-mail Bloody Disgusting did that set this whole thing off. There were things in the e-mail that immediately struck me as false, so I reached out to John to ask him to either confirm or deny the possibility. The guy wrote about how Kurt Russell wanted Paramount to make this film before he’d sign a three-picture deal with them. The thing is, studios aren’t really in the habit of making “three-picture” deals with anyone anymore, especially not with a guy like Russell who, while undeniably cool, is hardly box-office magic. Also, Russell doesn’t pitch projects. He only meets on films that have a greenlight and that have a money offer on the table. Even if it is Carpenter, the film would have to be set up somewhere before Kurt would get involved.

But don’t take my word for it. Carpenter himself shot the entire rumor down today when we spoke. “ESCAPE FROM EARTH is an idea we had several years ago, but it never really got any further than that,” he said. When I asked him if he’d met at Paramount, he just laughed. “Nope.” In an e-mail, his wife and producer Sandy King also emphasized how untrue the story was.

”John has just spent a rousing week playing Tom Clancy's war video games and smoking in his favorite chair and eating fried chicken. Need I say more?”

I think that just about sums it up. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Plissken fans, but there you have it.

"Moriarty" out.





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  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:28 p.m. CST

    First!!

    by paviod

    Finally!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Damn, really wanted to see the franchise live again...

    by textual

    too bad

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST

    aww man

    by Everett Robert

    I really kind of hoped this was true...what was the basic premise going to be anyone know

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST

    oh and 3rd

    by Everett Robert

    or now 4th

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Thanks!!!!!

    by shutterghost

    I'd say i didn't believe it to be on the cool crew, but i did. Thanks for clearing it up

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Tom Clancy

    by AshleyMonday

    It makes me gleeful to hear that Carpenter likes video games and fried chicken. I can only surmise what he was smoking.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    by Fearsme

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    but Escape from Chicago is still on!

    by stlfilmwire

    It will Star Ice Cube, and Treat Williams. Straight to DVD. Directed by Lucky McKee and written by Adam Hackbarth.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Escape from Bullshit is More Like It...

    by hipcheck13

    ...ah, I dunno. Probably for the best - though the idea was cool.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:41 p.m. CST

    If they ever reboot Escape, please, please, PLEASE...

    by Shermdawg

    cast Josh Holloway as Snake!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Yeah, a reboot!

    by Mgmax

    Here's how I see it-- Josh Hartnett or maybe Ashton Kutcher as Snake. And Russell as his DAD! And they have issues! And it turns out that escaping from New York is how they work them out!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    I want to see Escape from Peoria.

    by Barry Egan

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Escape From L.A. SUCKED!

    by one9deuce

    John Carpenter hasn't made an interesting film in 20 years. TWENTY! Why would anyone want to see Escape From Earth? Because Escape From New York is awesome? How many times do we need to see filmmakers go back to past successes only to make something between mediocre and shitty? If somebody has an example of when that has actually worked, I would like to hear it.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Escape from Snake on a Plane

    by paviod

    "There's mother-fucking Snake on the mother-fucking plane!"

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Escape........FROM A MUTHAFUCKIN' PLANE

    by The Ender

    With No Parachute, and Goldie Hawn being captured by Saudi Terrorists.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Doubtful Carpenter will ever make another feature.

    by Nate Champion

    Piddling away his time between X-Box and Masters of Horror? Five years and counting since Ghosts of Mars? A conspicuous absence of any other project in lieu of this silly Escape from Earth rumor? Why do I get the feeling that we won't be seeing They Live Again or Assault on Precinct 14?

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Pavoid HOLY SHIT

    by The Ender

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Escape from Broke Back Mountain!!!!

    by BNITT

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Paviod If You Are A Single Hot Female

    by The Ender

    There is a possibility we are indeed soul mates. If your a guy. Maybe brothers separated at birth, and brought together by a Snakes On A Plane Reference. Fucking Magic

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:05 p.m. CST

    The Ender HOLY SHIT IS RIGHT!

    by paviod

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST

    The Ender I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS MOMEMT

    by paviod

    We must be brothers separated at birth - kinda like Double Impact. We could be twins, imagine...

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:13 p.m. CST

    The Game

    by malachiconstant

    They were going to attempt to make a series of games to keep Snake young and the franchise alive with capenter overseeing and Russell voicing.Whatever became of the Escape video game? I think it was also going to use the title Snake Plissken chronicles. They even had a basic site launched for it, with a cartoon image of Snake.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    TOO SOON!

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Yep, the rumor was shot down too soon. As obviously fake as it was, it was also funny to see the crazy dance around it.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Carpenter's denial: bad news

    by bravogolfhotel

    On the other hand, the confirmation that, like me, he spent the last several days eating fried chicken and smoking in front of the computer is oddly pleasant.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Escape video game...

    by Shermdawg

    If one ever does happen, Rockstar should do it. Did anyone have any Carpenter moments playing Manhunt? I sure did. Hell, was that released for PC? Someone make an Escape mod!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Re: The Game

    by abcdefghijklmnop

    The game was being developed by the same company that did Dead to Rights. It was scheduled to come out in late 2005- although that announcement was made back in summer of 2003. They also announced plans for an anime dvd, with Russell lending his voice to both it and the game. I can only guess they were scrapped when the comic met an early death.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:37 p.m. CST

    How about Big Trouble in Big China?

    by jimmy_009

    That would be a cool sequel. Jack Burton driving a semi through China and battling evil demons from the netherworld. You can send me a check when it gets made...

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Quentin Tarantino Is To Blame For This Garbage!!!

    by MetalWater

    I knew that Quentin Tarantino's casting of Kurt "Goldie Hawn's Bitch" Russell in Grindhouse would lead to some bullshit like this!!! Escape From Planet Earth...How stupid of a concept is this??? What they should be making is The Thing 2 and 3!!! The Escape From New York concept was killed with Escape From LA...a film that was strickly and intellectually, anal rape for its audience, without the lube!!! Now, for those of you who love that kind of stuff...being anally raped that is, I am sure you'll all be standing in line for Escape From Planet Earth...I however, am holding out for ballsy The Thing sequels that can surpass the first film which was great...When Kurt Russell was still a man, before he became Goldie's full time pool boy!!!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times...

    by Chief Redcock

    ...Escape from New Orleans, with Michael Brown playing the bad guy. Make it so.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 10:55 p.m. CST

    is it "TOO SOON"

    by Malebolgia

    to stuff a C0CK down your "TOO SOON" throat?! NO ONE THINKS IT"S FUNNY!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 11:09 p.m. CST

    It would be good, but you just know that if it happens

    by kabong

    it will be TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN Plissken.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 11:47 p.m. CST

    3,885,574,672 Emails!!!!

    by Rojira

    Forward them on to Paramount, the film might actually get made through sheer fan support!!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    RE: 3,885,574,672 Emails!!!!

    by Neo Zeed

    I agree! But only with Kurt Russell as Snake. No remake bullshit.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Russel = Snake - Other Actor = No Snake!

    by Rojira

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Escape from Oprah's Minge!

    by Sizable Newt

    I'd download it.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 12:15 a.m. CST

    So you're saying there's a chance?

    by Orionsangels

    Escape from Disney World!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 1:03 a.m. CST

    No damnit, NOOO!!!!

    by The Dum Guy

    Triple H. Christ, it's not enough that almost every movie released sucks, now the hope of actualy having something vaguely cool is demolished. I know Escape From L.A wasn't all that cool, but damnit, I want something that has Plissken in it, even if it's animated (maybe not). The only thing that really bothered me about the title was the whole Earth thing, where exactly was he going to escape to? What ever happend to the Carpenter that brought us The Thing, where have you gone Carpenter of yesteryear?

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 1:13 a.m. CST

    "Never happen, baby."

    by Uncapie

    It was good while it lasted.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Swhat I thought...

    by pax256

    Video games and fried chicken getting in the way of long hoped for sequels. My personal fav being a Big Trouble in Little China 2...

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Escape From the Retirement Home On Rocket-Skates!

    by Tall_Boy

    Whooo!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Escape From LA is underrated

    by Vern

    Yeah I know, it's a remake instead of a sequel, I understand why people were disappointed. But I still say it's a fun movie. I like how everything from the original has LA equivalents, especially the way the gladiatorial combat becomes the classic Snake Plissken basketball scene. I mean you got Michelle Cox from Homicide in there. You got Pam Grier, Bruce Campbell, Steve Buscemi. Cuervo Jones. The hilarious surfing scene with Peter Fonda. Hangliders over Disneyland. Wasn't Al Leong on one of those hang gliders? Then there's the rockin update of the theme song. Hell, even if you hate all of these things, you gotta admit that Snake Plissken is still The Motherfuckin Man in this movie. Escape From Earth would've been exciting because it would've probaly had a different structure instead of a remake, a new adventure with this great iconic hero who really doesn't give a fuck.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:39 a.m. CST

    It's Too Bad

    by Dersu

    I would love to see John Carpenter and Kurt Russell make "Escape from Earth," and apparently so would many others. Perhaps this piece of "news" could motivate the powers that be into making this movie. Also, I know that "Escape from L.A." is not everyone's favourite movie, but I wish that a better DVD of it would get made, similar to the "Escape from New York" two-disc set from a few years back.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:57 a.m. CST

    hahah

    by movieman742

    WHO CARes im drunk so its alll good so i dont carehtat much. la was gooood but i dont know oi dfi if i cold handle another

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:58 a.m. CST

    THE DARK NIGHT

    by movieman742

    LIEV SCHRIBER = HARVEY DENT

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:13 a.m. CST

    I've got a message for you, you're not going to like it

    by kwisatzhaderach

    We love you man and want you to make another movie. Get Kurt to exercise some pressure for you to make a western with him that you've always talked about. Or give us another low budget horror classic such as Halloween or Prince of Darkness. While you're at it get Joe Dante up off his lazy ass too!!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Wouldn't this be the same movie as

    by Johnny Smith

    Escape From the Planet of the Apes? Hey-o.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:21 a.m. CST

    One reason this ain't happenin' (possibly)

    by Shermdawg

    Carpenter may have reached some sort of an agreement with Kojima, since the MGS flick is supposedly moving full steam ahead. And word is, Hideo wants Lord VIGGO! to play Snake.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:53 a.m. CST

    nooooo

    by bruno-x

    we need more Jack Burton not that hack Snake...

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Solid Plisken

    by tompbeast

    Agree wid Shermdawg, Metal gear will be a new franchise to cancel out Plisken sadly and Escape from Earth sounds like a Pitch black idea! where's the confinement in that although it's a cool title in an end of series kind of way. I'm getting weary of puffy 80's actors pulling on their action boots for supposedly 1 last gig see also - Bruce Willis and Sly X 2. The studios obviously concider todays younger adience who never heard of John Carpenter or the Thing. As much as us nostalgic fanboys wish our old hero actors and directors could keep making cool flicks forever, fact is those actors, unless they pick projects wisely like Eastwood just end up disapointing and looking like crusty losers! I just about managed to believe Arnie as the Terminator one last time but there's only so much mileage with these guys in the same roles before it just gets silly! I will be there for Rambo and Rocky but I hope they die at the end or have offspring at least so we can have 'Son of Comando' or 'Die Hard Baby'

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 4:40 a.m. CST

    pity, that.

    by Lost Prophet

    We need Carpenter to return to form, as despite recent debacles the man still gives me hope. Isn't this usually the TB that brings Coco crawling out of the woodwork ro patronisingly tell us that we are imagining things and In the Mouth of Madness, Vampires, Ghosts of Mars etc. are really masterpieces?

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Escape from LA is his last masterwork

    by Rone

    When Zemekis did Back to the Future Part II in 1989, his objective was to make a movie about sequels; all the wareabouts of the characters were built with this idea in mind. Carpenter ,who gladly is meaner, didn't do the same thing with the false sequel to Snake's adventures. He worked his movie as a criticize towards Hollywood and his illusions. Hollywood ,kingdom of sequels, since the beginning of the nineties is doing the same movie other and other again. Escape from LA is just a report of this craziness which brings a pirate movie (which greatly differs from the former...) on top of the boxoffice in 2006. Sorry for my bad english. Did you look at the last trailer of Mgs4? Truly a message from Kojima towards Carpenter.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Rone

    by Lost Prophet

    I've seen this argument posted before. OK- if this was carpenter's intention then it is very high concept and a high minded idea. However, this doesn't excuse the patchy nature of the film that followed. Whilst I love parts of the film (Bruce Campbell's deranged plastic surgeon for example) there are parts of it that make me wince with pain. I appreciate the point you are trying to make, and if this is the case then sadly carpenter wandered off into an intentional fallacy that doomed the project to failure. I certainly would not call it a masterpiece.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Escape = Hand Slap!

    by releaseher!

    Best moment = Snake giving fucking Peter Fonda a high-five as they're riding a wave! The momentum of ESCAPE fans wasn't there when L.A. came out. It wasn't cool yet to love it. Unfortunately, now it is. J.C., make one more. Just one more to make it a trilogy. Read all this interest. They'll come this time. Just make it bad-ass. don't think about studios/marketing. We know you think you're shit in America and a god in France... But you're not. You're a God to us HERE as well. The geeks are rising here in the U.S. and are controling the system via this thing called the world wide web. Look at Snakes On A Plane. We got what we wanted based on writing on shit sites like this. We want YOU now. You're a HERO to us. Start kicking ass again in your Howard Hawkes way. We all know you can do it. But do you? Say what you want to do and we'll support it to the point where sudios CAN'T say no. Please. We love you here.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:38 a.m. CST

    BUT... IS IT ART?

    by ManOfStool

    Just wondering...

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:38 a.m. CST

    The Three Picture deal thing was kinda suspicious

    by Archduke_Chocula

    http://k105.blogspot.com/

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Fuck Snake anyway! Babylon 5 is coming back

    by ManOfStool

    Biatches!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Good pitch

    by GenericJokeName

    But not as good as "No Rule To Make Target" www.tinyurl.com/gfkrf

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 5:54 a.m. CST

    aw, I read that as Escape from the middle of the earth

    by ScreamingSkull

    But imagining him sitting around eating chicken, lighting up and trash talking with the best of them on Xbox live made up for it.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Lost Prophet

    by kwisatzhaderach

    In The Mouth of Madness was a great flick! Last good film he made. For my money the great Carpenter flicks are Halloween, The Fog, Escape from New York, The Thing, Starman (due to Jeff Bridges), Big Trouble in Little China, Prince of Darkness, They Live and In The Mouth of Madness. That's a pretty good resume.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Escape from Earth Plot Ideas

    by Rojira

    What idea do you guys have, and I mean serious ideas, not Escape from Development Hell (actually thats pretty funny) but serious ideas for this film? Remember, the whole world is blacked out and there is no power. Why would he want to escape from earth? What is he forced to do?

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Indeed Pavio

    by The Ender

    Double Impact it is, brother!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 6:31 a.m. CST

    The Thing

    by Salamander

    Best horror i ever saw, bring back carpenter of old and lets see a full on sequel minus any dumb sidekicks!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 6:38 a.m. CST

    RE: The Thing

    by Rojira

    I remember the first time I saw that film. I think thats the last film that has made me feel the way it did. No other movie since seeing that has come close to giving me the same feeling. Its the feeling you get when you watch a great film for the very first time, you never forget it.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 6:56 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Lost Prophet

    you think. It just didn't do it for me (apart from the end- Sam Neill going nuts in the cinema, but I am a sucker for those "evil dead" type endings). I still think his track record is good enough to warrant giving him another look. I want to see carpenter do a sequel to The Thing, or at least pull rank and get the god awful idea of a Haloween remake nixed.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Forget Carpenter - Darabont is remaking THE THING

    by Triumph poops!

    Don't hold your breath waiting for a new Carpenter THING movie. Frank Darabont has been signed to do a remake/updating of it as a miniseries for the SciFi Channel, who had optioned the property a while back. They also have Ridley Scott developing/remaking THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN, so if nothing else that makes for two utterly kick-ass productions that SciFi Channel has in the pipeline. Of course, long before we get to see either of these I'm sure we'll have to endure MANSQUITO 2!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Why the fuck would we want The Thing remade?

    by Lost Prophet

    especially as a miniseries? crappest idea since the mooted Halloween Remake

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Escape From North Carolina

    by omarthesnake

    We know how much Snake loves smoking. In the future, cigarettes are illegal, and NC has become a leper colony for smokers. Snake sneaks in to hijack a truck full of smokes, and runs afoul of rival crimelords Joe Camel and Virginia Slim. Wackiness ensues.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:07 a.m. CST

    He SHOULD spend that smokin time thinking up a story

    by BendersShinyAss

    Escape from Earth sounds fucking awesome! Imagine the cheesy space special effects!!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Escape from America

    by BendersShinyAss

    That sounds more in tune with the series. New York, LA..... America. Escape from Earth can be the next one. Then Escape from the Moon. With todays digital technology, and long drawn out unstructured trends in film making, this thing could all be completed for 2008-2010. Mr. Carpenter, think of all the weed you could buy with that! Hey, come make it out in the hinterlands out back of my place. You'll have a blast!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Escape from Witch Mountain

    by durhay

    After escaping to and returning from.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Beyond Escape From New York

    by durhay

    - the Choose Your Own Adventure book

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Want to read a script review of this film?

    by largefarvaFR

    Read it here: http://www.filmrot.com/articles/reviews/005964.php

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 9:29 a.m. CST

    A prequel of some sorts perhaps?

    by tango fett

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 9:43 a.m. CST

    About MGS...

    by LilOgre

    Does anyone know if the Wachowskis are still interested in doing this film? And isn't Snake an amalgamation of both Kyle Reese and Plissken? Anyway, I know Larry (or Lana) and Andy are HUGE fans of the game and have met with Kojima a few times times (as fans of the game) and that they were rumored to be interested in the film but, as far as a film, i think it was apparently all rumors. Anyone know anything else?

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 10:09 a.m. CST

    It's weird . . .

    by Mechasheeva

    That of all people Carpenter gave his blessing to Rob Zombie to reboot the Halloween franchise. House of 1000 was just campy, and Devil's Rejects, while awesome in its own right, wasn't really horror, just hardcore exploitation, 70's style. The man hasn't made anything genuinely scary . . . but at least the rebooted theme song sounds badass (it was posted at joblo last week).

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Escape from the Rest Home

    by I Dunno

    Russel is like what, 100 now?

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Escape from LA

    by Andsoitis

    While not the greatest movie ever made, is definitely a good movie. Like someone stated above in regards to Back to the Future II, the point of Escape LA was to be a rediculous sequel which is what was continuously churned out in the 90's. This movie came out on the heels of Leathal Weapon III, and Beverly Hills Cop III and every other sequel part III. Oh and original material like Independence Day and Jurassic Park. These were rediculously big, pointless movies. Escape from LA is up there with Back to the Future II and Gremlins II in regards to self-depricating sequels. While making fun of a genre is probably not a good reason to make a film, I find it pretty damn funny. Watch Gremlins II again people, it's absolutely amazing.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Jack Burton makes a delivery to a Michigan S-Mart...

    by Declan_Swartz

    with Patrick Warburton recently getting the managerial position; that should have rightfully been Ash's after his years of loyalty to the company. Sam is busy, so Ivan Raimi can write it with W.D. Richter. Hopefully, John will have finished the Clancy game by then, and have this be his final feature film before retirement. He can use the profits to open his own Dark Star-themed chicken franchise; where kids play a game by trying to talk their table's Bomb #20 deep fryer into cooking their order properly, for assorted prizes.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Escape from LA's not that bad

    by Neo Zeed

    compared to what's out today.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Anyone who took Escape From LA seriously...

    by Childe Roland

    ...seriously missed the point. Did you not catch the "sudden death" basketball game? The frickin' surfing scene? It was genre action adventure as comedy and clearly a parody of the original (as well as other things). People who are pissed off by that movie probably missed all of the humor in the original as well, which was Big Trouble in Little China serious (as in not very at all) but a hell of a lot of fun. With all of the 80s actioin icons returning to their archetypical roles for one last serious outing each, bnow is THE PERFECT time for Carpenter to make a fun-as-hell movie about an aged Snake doing stuff he should really know better than to try. Oh...and whoever extolled the virtues of Gremlins 2 above, kudos. I caught that on cable last month and spent almost the entire film laughing my ass off. I'd forgotten how clever that one was.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Well, then I guess it's all the more reason...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    ...to start making "Buckaroo Banzai vs. The World Crime League".

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Remake of the THING...

    by dopepope

    ...is inevitable with Hollywood's track record these days. I'll only accept something with the involvement of, or continuation of John Carpenter's take on it, as well as Rob Bottin's amazingly bizarre transformations. Chris Cunningham has been doing shit recently that is in this realm, and with his imaginiation, a remake could actually be something great. Check out the video short 'The EEL'. Along with his music video for 'Sheena is a Parasite' by The Horrors, and ofcourse, 'Rubber Johnny'. There's a quick sequence in 'The EEL' that is absolutely inspired by Bottin's dog sequence in 'The Thing'. Make's it seem like there's hope for this one to be done right, even if they insist on doing these unnecessary remakes.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    The Thing

    by Mechasheeva

    was done right by Carpenter once and doesn't need to be remade. If Hollywood wants to make more money off it, release a special edition or something into theatres and scare the pants off a whole new generation that's been spoiled by awful, unscary "horror" movies.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST

    There's no need to remake The Thing.

    by Childe Roland

    A sequel would blow the doors off the proverbial shack, though. If a modern day antarctic research team ran across a deranged, aged-yet-oddly-preserved MacReady sitting sentry all alone up there and, despite his warnings, went exploring the ruins of the outpost...imagine the tense fun. And all the while we're wondering if that's really Mac or if he's one of those Things. I'd be there with bells on if both Russell and Carpenter re-upped for this tour.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    NEED?

    by dopepope

    There's only a need for easy money. There's no need to remake the Thing again, but Carpenter's version already sort of was a remake (to a degree) and Thank GOD he did it! But I don't want it tainted with neither a shitty remake nor a shitty sequel. but let's face it, it's bound to happen. 'Halloween' needs another sequel / remake as much as 'King Kong' does at this point, but it's happening. I'm shocked 'The Thing' hasn't been screwed with to this day, with it's countless sci-fi loose ends to be explored, there's potential for greatness. We'll probably never get to see that greatness though.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Snake Plisken??

    by Billyeveryteen

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:13 p.m. CST

    I heard you were dead.

    by Billyeveryteen

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Childe Roland -

    by Mechasheeva

    If Carpenter ever licks the chicken grease off his fingers and gets his mojo back, I hope he makes that movie. If anyone else touches Carpenter's properties though, there'll be hell to pay. As for Rob Zombie's Halloween . . . I'm apprehensive at best. I'm betting it will be different enough from Carpenter's masterpiece that we won't constantly be reminded of any craptasticness every time we decide to take a stroll down that ol' memory lane, though. Could be a good movie in its own right.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Hey! Mori knows Carpenter!

    by Childe Roland

    Drew, throw the above premise for a Thing sequel at Chicken John and see if he bites. Tell him you'll write it with him. I hereby relinquish all rights to the concept and trust in your skill as a writer to do it justice...for the greater good of geekdom. ;)

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Not a bad premise...

    by alienindisguise

    based on the title. I'm sure they would find a way to screw it up by putting a lame ass surfing scene in it somewhere. I'd still rather see "Bigger Trouble in Little China"

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Weren't they planning a Gremlins 3 a few yrs back?

    by Shermdawg

    Or am I just dreaming? I gotta head over to wiki. Anyways, "The New Batch" was teh bomb. It may not have been as good as the original, but it was a whole other type of film. Christopher Lee, and John Glover were great: "I LIKE that! Good." That redhead was smokin' hot. And the Hulk Hogan bit, was his finest cinematic moment....bruther.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Give Us Some Fucking Thing Sequels!!!

    by MetalWater

    We don't need another remake of The Thing...The 80's remake starring Kurt Russell and directed by John Carpenter was as good as it gets!!! What we need are some sequels that are strictly based and linked to the John Carpenter version. No, instead, Carpenter and Kurt Russell are wasting their time (and ours) with another stupid and silly sequel to Escape From New York, which I guarantee you will bomb at the box office as did Escape From LA. And as far as the SCI FI Network's mini-series of The Thing in concerned...well, who cares about that? It will go unnoticed no matter what happens!!! 3 days after it airs everyone will forget about it...as they should!!! The Thing is John Carpenter's chance to have a film franchise that could possibly eclipse the mishandled Alien franchise, if executed correctly...and it's Kurt Russell's only real chance of making a come back!!!

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 8:37 p.m. CST

    "Kurt Russell's only real chance of making a come back"

    by Shermdawg

    Um, are you forgetting Kurt will be in QT's new flick? A Thing sequel with Kurt will do as much for his career as H20 did for Jamie Lee Curtis.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    by Evil Chicken

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    Heres a premise for Snake 3....

    by KongMonkey

    Fuck escaping from earth, why bother leaving. Snake turned it into the largest prison colony in the galaxy at the end of LA, making for some fun kick ass bloodbaths. Now take the first two films and bring'em together. Governments all fall to the wreckless abandon of panicking people who fall into the grasp of mass gangs worldwide, due to the lack of technology they had become so dependant on. The New York Gang swarms the mainland from the east, while the L.A. gang does the same from the west. Both grow tremendously as the move across the decimated U.S. Both hate each other and have seperate and same agendas. All of them involve the one man who threw earth back to the perverbial dogs---Snake Plysskin. LA Gang, lead by the remainder of the american military now gone rogue, want to kill snake for what he did to good ol' democracy. While the New York gang, hell bent on domination of the free world that locked them away in Manhatton, want snake as a powerful ally. Running into both factions throughout the film, an aging Snake gives a big fuck you to both of them, and leads the two armies of millions to the center of the country. This of course being tornado ally, is tornado season. And along with a graphically bloody lotr style battle between the NY and LA gang with torndaoes dropping down and hurling thousands of would-be soldiers and tanks etc. through the air like trash, you get snake right in the middle. Giving his last stand as the world finally tears itself apart. How does it end: Dunno. Best idea would be to give snake his last stand and have him finally succumb to death at the end. How he falls though is the big agenda. Does he go out all dramatically like John Waynes Davy Crockett, torch in hand gunpowder straight ahead? or does it go slow, from a virus, as the first two films hinted at. Dunno. But I definitely do not want this film to end with snake cruising away from earth in a space shuttle just before the planet blows to pieces. The title: "John Carpenter's SNAKE PLYSSKIN"

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Escape From Television

    by Bill Shits

    By Jan Hammer - that was some fucking lp man.....

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Why not?

    by Dazzler69

    It can't hurt to keep the rumor alive.

  • Aug. 9, 2006, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Excape from LA wasnt that bad, and...

    by uberman

    George Bush is really a pretty good president. Really, you just have to look at it from a extemely narrow view, like the fact that George does give speeches sometimes, and Carpenter actually held the camera steady a few times. Really, its pretty good if you look at it as compared to something say a large primate with a developmental disabilty would have done with the same gear. Oops-thats unfair. Not a primate, but something like a, hmmmm, a stem cell with a camera. There, thats fair. Yep. It actually is pretty good when you think of what a stem cell would have done with the same material.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:50 a.m. CST

    by sentient

    Heres the deal with a Thing sequel. The film should start off with both guys being found several months later dead and frozen right where they were sitting. No need to hire them actors back. Use lifecasting. They are bagged up, placed in helicopters and flown onto a frigate ship. We see this ship arrive in New York. Suddenly we are treated to news flashes of the plagues outbreak. We watch as it desimates the world, town by town, city by city, state by state, country by country, we see attacks happen on airplanes, on ships, in buildings, in houses, on jobs, on farms, in malls, the highways everywhere foreign and domestic. We watch the globe from afar as hundreds of nukes take flight and then fall back onto it's surface. We cut to several years forward in time. A group of survivors on a boat arrives at an island. They aren't sure if it's free of the things but they have run out of supplies and they are tired of running. -------------We get one first person view of one of the survivors escape ordeal through a vivid nightmare------------------------ because who doesn't want to see the escape POV of a total world consumed thing plague imagine a tidal wave of conjoined people and dogs and cows and fowl and so on engulfing a city. and tearing through buildings and the like------------------ I hate the idea of going back to the arctic. It's time to move the film into big world plague shit- Show the whole invasion on earth and it should take a while to do it justice. This will be the CGI O'gasm and the big money dropping event of the film. So this way the fans get the Global scale massive turning and, the last effort of fight and then the lone survivors who all band up to get away and then we are away but still hopeless having been on a ship on the ocean for years... Tired of the run, ready to go back to land.. But is it safe??? Are the escapers American.. Or foreign... Dont know typical bs would be americans but foreign with subtitled dialog would rock... it would be a change..

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Escape from lame ass rumors

    by Agent sith

    I knew this was too good to be true,even those hacks at G4TV mentioned the possibiilty of an escape sequel.But the skeptical bastard that i am had my doubts.especially after the dissapointing sequel (Escape from LA-LA-LA.) There was also suppossed to be snake plissken game by Namco and the Anime from the guys responsible for ghost in the shell..yeah what the fuck happened to those projects? Instead of focusing on a sequel Kurt was busy doing boring ass films like sky high and that damn hockey hokey flick. I lost respect for this guy and carpenter has lost his touch..Ghost of mars could have been great,but the ending was too cheesy. but i bought the idea of (ice) cube being a black snake plissken.even wore the red camos. poor deb (hill) was more interested and bringing the Snake franchises back,but unfortunetly she passed 3 years ago. now all we are left with is some Snake plissken comic..not even that good,however i love the micheal golden cover art.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST

    That wouldn't be a bad flick, either, sentient.

    by Childe Roland

    But I really would like to see Russell's MacReady again, even if it turns out he's just a Thing in disguise. MacReady was, is and ever shall be the Man.

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Mechasheeva

    by lynxpro

    Don't you mean *House of 78 Corpses*?

  • Aug. 10, 2006, 8:11 p.m. CST

    What about the Plissken video game and Anime?

    by Monkey_King

    What happened to that?