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I am – Hercules!!

Bunny’s back!! But no Beadie Russell!!

“The Wire” changes every season, and season four? No exception. Learn now what awaits Jimmy McNulty, Kima Greggs, Lt. Daniels, Bunk Moreland, Bunny Colvin, Rhonda Pearlman, Lester Freamon, Herc Hauk, Ellis Carver, Prez Pryzbylewski, Tommy Carcetti, Marlo Stanfield, Cutty Wise, Commander Burrell, Deputy Commander Rawls, Bubbles, State Senator Clay Davis, Bodie Broadus, Mayor Royce, Leandor Sydnor and Omar Little.

And it looks like the great novelist-screenwriter Richard Price (“Sea of Love,” “Mad Dog and Glory,” “Kiss of Death,” “Clockers,” “Ransom,” “Shaft,” “Freedomland”) is back to help things along.

For Immediate Release

Aug. 3, 2006

ACCLAIMED PEABODY-WINNING DRAMA SERIES THE WIRE KICKS OFF FOURTH SEASON SEPT. 10, EXCLUSIVELY ON HBO

The Peabody Award-winning drama series THE WIRE kicks off its 13-episode fourth season SUNDAY, SEPT. 10 (10:00-11:00 p.m. ET/PT), exclusively on HBO.

Season four of THE WIRE centers on the lives of four young boys as they traverse adolescence in the drug-saturated streets of West Baltimore. The new episodes of the series examine their world through the theme of education, asking viewers to consider the world that awaits these boys, and to consider further the American commitment to equal opportunity.

"The American obsession with police procedural and crime drama usually only allows for villains - in large part, black and brown - who exist as foils, to be pursued and destroyed by cop heroes," says series creator and executive producer David Simon. "We're addressing ourselves to where the 'villains' actually come from, and whether we have any right to regard them as somehow less human than the rest of us."

This season of THE WIRE is based in large part on the experiences of writer and producer Edward Burns, who taught social studies for seven years in the Baltimore school system after serving 20 years as a city police detective.

"If anything," says Burns, "our depiction of an inner-city school system, its problems and its unwillingness to fully address those problems, is a very generous one."

The stories of Michael, Namond, DuQuan and Randy take place against the rise of a new narcotics empire in West Baltimore - replacing the fallen Barksdale organization - and the resulting struggle by Baltimore detectives to mount an investigation against this new power.

Returning cast regulars from the first three seasons of THE WIRE include Dominic West, Sonja Sohn, Lance Reddick, Wendell Pierce, Robert Wisdom, Deirdre Lovejoy, Clarke Peters, Domenick Lombardozzi, Seth Gilliam, Jim True-Frost, Aidan Gillen, Jamie Hector, Chad L. Coleman, Michael K. Williams, John Doman, Frankie R. Faison, Andre Royo, Isiah Witlock, JD Williams, Glynn Turman and Corey Parker-Robinson.

New cast regulars this season include Reg E. Cathey (HBO's "Everyday People") as Norman Wilson, Councilman Carcetti's advisor; Gbenga Akinnagbe as Chris Partlow, a ruthless assassin for drug lord Marlo Stanfield; and, playing the four friends who are classmates at Edward J. Tilghman Middle School, Jermaine Crawford ("A Midsummer Night's Dream" at the Shakespeare Theater in Washington, D.C.) as Duquan "Dukie" Weems, Maestro Harrell ("Ali") as Randy Wagstaff, Julito McCullum ("Akeelah and the Bee") as Namond Brice and Tristan Wilds (Spike Lee's "Miracle Boys") as Michael Lee.

Among the directors this season are series veterans Dan Attias, Brad Anderson, Joe Chappelle, Ernest Dickerson, Agnieszka Holland, Christine Moore and Alex Zakrzewski. New directors this season include Jim McKay (HBO's "Everyday People"), Seith Mann ("Grey's Anatomy"), David Platt ("Law & Order") and Anthony Hemingway ("CSI: New York").

The writing staff of THE WIRE includes David Simon, who penned two books of narrative nonfiction, "Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets," which inspired the hit series "Homicide: Life on the Street," and "The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood," which inspired the Emmy(r)-winning HBO miniseries "The Corner"; Ed Burns, a former Baltimore police detective and Baltimore city public school teacher who coauthored "The Corner" with Simon; Eric Overmeyer, a noted playwright ("On the Verge") and veteran TV writer for such dramas as "St. Elsewhere" and "Homicide: Life on the Street"; Bill Zorzi, a former political writer and editor for the Baltimore Sun; and David Mills, who was one of the writers on "The Corner," as well as a writer for "NYPD Blue" and "Homicide: Life on the Street." Also writing for the series this season are novelists Dennis Lehane ("Shutter Island," "Mystic River"), George Pelecanos ("Hard Revolution," "Right as Rain") and Richard Price ("Clockers," "Samaritan"), and playwright Kia Corthron ("Breath, Boom").

Beginning Sept. 4 with the season premiere, each weekly episode of THE WIRE will be available on HBO On Demand the Monday prior to its Sunday debut on the main HBO channel. The HBO On Demand debuts will continue for the entire 13-episode season.

September's episodes:
Episode #38: "Boys of Summer"
Debut date: SUNDAY, SEPT. 10 (10:00-11:00 p.m. ET/PT)
Other HBO playdates: Sept. 12 (11:30 p.m.), 13 (midnight), 15 (10:00 p.m.), 16 (11:00 p.m.) and 29 (8:00 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: Sept. 10 (11:00 p.m.) and 11 (9:00 p.m.)
Four boys from West Baltimore - Michael (Tristan Wilds), Namond (Julito McCullum), Randy (Maestro Harrell) and Dukie (Jermaine Crawford) - play out their summer vacation in the streets as the fall school semester approaches. Having failed to capture a potentially valuable homing pigeon, the boys are stirred to action when Dukie is beaten up, and Randy concocts a retaliation plan against the rival gang. The action is slower at Bodie's (JD Williams) corner, giving young Namond an excuse to take off early from his "summer job" as a runner. Meanwhile, Marlo (Jamie Hector) has solved the problem that baffled Stringer Bell: how to maintain discipline (i.e., murders) without bringing police attention. At the detail office, Freamon (Clarke Peters) and Sydnor (Corey Parker Robinson) press Pearlman (Deirdre Lovejoy) to issue City Hall subpoenas, while Daniels' (Lance Reddick) replacement, James Asher (Gene Terinoni), surveys the blueprints to his dream house. With the mayoral race heading into its final weeks, Mayor Royce (Glynn Turman) and his primary challenger, Tommy Carcetti (Aidan Gillen), hit decidedly different campaign trails. Carcetti's deputy campaign manager, Norman Wilson (Reg. E. Cathey), and his campaign guru, Theresa D'Agostino (Brandy Burre), try to keep their candidate focused, despite the odds. Prez (Jim True-Frost) preps for a new career in higher education, while McNulty (Dominic West) turns down a promotion.
Teleplay by David Simon; story by David Simon & Ed Burns; directed by Joe Chappelle.

Episode #39: "Soft Eyes"
Debut date: SUNDAY, SEPT. 17 (10:00-11:00 p.m.)
Other HBO playdates: Sept. 19 (11:30 p.m.), 20 (midnight), 22 (10:00 p.m.), 23 (1:00 a.m.) and 29 (9:00 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: Sept. 18 (9:00 p.m.) and 21 (8:00 p.m.)
Herc's (Domenick Lombardozzi) soft-duty job with the mayor takes an unexpectedly hard turn. Despite the potential damage to her career, Pearlman provides Freamon (Clarke Peters) and Sydnor with subpoena ammunition for their "grizzly-bear" hunt in City Hall. Carcetti concentrates on games he can win; Namond gets some grooming advice from his father, Wee-Bey (Hassan Johnson); Marlo plays Robin Hood with the neighborhood kids, though Michael isn't taking; Bubbles (Andre Royo) brings an apprentice into his mobile-emporium business; Cutty (Chad L. Coleman) juggles his landscaping job with a volunteer gig as a boxing mentor, eyeing Michael as a pupil; Prez braces for his first day as a schoolteacher. At the televised mayoral debate, Carcetti drops a bombshell on the mayor.
Teleplay by David Mills; story by Ed Burns & David Mills; directed by Christine Moore.

Episode #40: "Home Room"
Debut date: SUNDAY, SEPT. 24 (10:00-11:00 p.m.)
Other HBO playdates: Sept. 26 (11:30 p.m.), 27 (midnight), 29 (10:00 p.m.) and 30 (11:15 p.m.)
HBO2 playdate: Sept. 25 (9:00 p.m.)
With his lead dwindling in the polls, Royce resorts to extreme measures to stall Carcetti's momentum. At Bodie's corner, Michael proves adept as a runner, with both Bodie and Marlo taking notice. A re-up bodega is put under surveillance by Omar (Michael K. Williams) and Greggs (Sonja Sohn), for different reasons. Rawls (John Doman) replaces Asher with a "company man," Charles Marimow (Boris McGiver), who pushes a new agenda on the detail, to Freamon and Greggs' dismay. A domesticated McNulty invites Bunk (Wendell Pierce) over for dinner, which ends with the two remembering the good old days at a familiar spot. Randy enjoys a productive first day of school, though Prez, the new teacher, isn't so fortunate. Herc reaps an unexpected benefit, courtesy of the mayor. Colvin (Robert Wisdom) contemplates trading his new job in the private sector for one that gets him back on the streets.
Teleplay by Richard Price; story by Ed Burns & Richard Price; directed by Seith Mann.

THE WIRE's third season, which concluded in Dec. 2004, sparked critical raves. The New York Times called it "one of the smartest, most ambitious shows on television..." Entertainment Weekly said, "Grade: A...TV's richest, most satisfying experience," while Daily Variety hailed the series as "brilliant...one of TV's premier hours...meticulously written, superbly acted...engrossing."

HBO Video will release the third season of THE WIRE on DVD Aug. 8.

THE WIRE was created by David Simon; executive producers, David Simon and Nina Kostroff Noble; co-executive producer, Joe Chappelle; producers, Edward Burns and Karen Thorson; consulting producer, Eric Overmyer.





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  • Aug. 4, 2006, 9:42 a.m. CST

    DVD

    by Thunderpants

    I missed 3rd season. The DVD is taking so fucking long to come out.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 9:45 a.m. CST

    jeez, people

    by SheriffDeeds

    I don't normally bad-mouth fellow Talkbackers...but one post in over an hour? For one of the great shows in TV history? C'mon, now!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST

    or I'm an idiot

    by SheriffDeeds

    and this site is in Central time. Sorry folks.

  • Catching up on season 3 now ... end of last week's episode floored me.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 10 a.m. CST

    Can't wait.

    by Chest_Rockwell

    I got hooked after catching all of season 1 on HBO on Demand about a month ago. Then promptly went out and bought season 2 and watched all of it, and will be buying season 3 on Tuesday. I had never really given this show a chance, until I heard fellow Tb'ers raving about it, and how it got no respect. So, I gave it a chance, and can only say, WOW! If you haven't seen this show, go get season 1 now, and get to work.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 10:08 a.m. CST

    seen it

    by earlylooker

    I've seen the entire fourth season and its awesome. Its nearly as good as season 2 (the best season) and as good or better than season 3 (the second best season). I can't wait to watch it all over again on HBO. This is far and away the best show on television right now. Taken together the 50 hours of the WIRE represent on the great achievements in television storytelling ever. They've created a universe of rich complex characters that brings alive the problems of America's cities better than anyone else has achieved recently. If you've never seen the WIRE do yourself a favor and start watching now.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Awesome show

    by Steve Rogers

    Can't wait to see it back on the air.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST

    the wire is fucking great televison

    by blackthought

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 11:34 a.m. CST

    The Wire Is Proof Positive That...

    by SamuelLappDance

    there are a LOT more things going on in this world and country other than oil, Iraq, and the Middle East. This is an amazing show. Deeper and richer and more rewarding if you have been with it from the start. But each season has a nice jumping-off point for newbies. It almost fills the void left seven years ago (Gulp! Has it been that long ago) by the cancellation of "Homicide: Life on the Street."

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Nuh-uh, the Bunk don't swim...

    by California Split

    ...and I don't float too good neithers. The Wire is the greatest human endeavor since air conditioning. Oh, indeed.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    So good, I actually sober up for it!

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    OBOYOBOYOBOYOBOYOBOYOBOY!!!! I AM BEYOND GIDDY GIDDY GIDDY FOR THE RETURN OF THE BEST TV THIS PLANET HAS EVER KNOWN! (yep, I now declare it slightly better than H:LOTS!) Not only is it great to be a fan, and see them, but it takes on a special meaning if you have seen every episode running up to this point. Every new episode makes reference to the past. Thank god for on demand, DVD, and modern methods of catching up on a show, otherwise people just starting on the show would be screwed. I bought the box sets not for only myself, but to share with everyone I could to bring them up to speed. It is important to know things like who Omar is, why McNulty is loathed, and what it means to answer when Bunny asks "Where you at?". Now I hope for the following this season: Prez shooting another inatimate object, Rawls caught at his favorite bar, Herc shot in the ass, and the return of The Greek. This makes me wet myself every Sunday night, just as H:LOTS did every Friday night. And if we are lucky, someone in homicide will mention the glory days of the great Francis Pembleton....And thus, I'm at 510 Jay, first floor, northwest corner, facing east! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Love this show, but hate that it takes sooo long to air

    by ComputerGuy68

    a new season. I have to go back to the old episodes to remember who every one is! I guess H:LOTS would be like this show if it was on HBO (I still miss that show)

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    The Best Damn Television Show Ever...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    ... when it's on. :)

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Fuck Emmy voters.

    by Det. John Kimble

    They ignored 'Homicide' for years, so why should 'The Wire' be any different.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST

    This is why I pay for HBO... love this show..

    by Russman

    It's awesome and I can't wait. Love it, love it, love it.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 2:21 p.m. CST

    So superior to the Sopranos...

    by Lost Skeleton

    you have to watch the Wire for its entertainment vaule, smarts and social relevancy. And yes...as a D.C. native who has friends in Baltimore...this show pulls no punches. This is Real Baltimore

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST

    i thought this got cancelled

    by v1cious

    ???

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST

    and Stringer Bell is dead, ya'll!! He's Dead!!!

    by Russman

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST

    THE WIRE BE BACK!

    by glodene

    DAMN! I LOVE THIS SHOW. I wonder if Marlo and Omar will be matching wits and bullets this season.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 3:25 p.m. CST

    THE BEST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF TELEVISION

    by Cameron1

    Superb, just fucking superb. SOOOOO glad to hear McNulty is back, thought he might be gone after season 3, and Prez!! Prez is back too, happy fucking day. Marlo is the meanest motherfucker in Bawlmer, I cannot wait to see how this plays out. If you haven't seen this yet, do yourself the biggest favour of your life and grab season 1, stick with the first episode that is pretty boring and you will be more than handsomely rewarded. This show is the fucking truth, uncomfortable and terrible and hilarious as it all is, it's above all, just pure, fucking TRUTH.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST

    The Wire

    by mrtwig48

    Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    interesting thing about this talkback so far

    by emu47

    not one negative post about the show. non-viewers should pay attention to that kind of phenomenom.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Love the show but it's not the whole picture

    by weebay

    I love this show. Actually I have a love hate relationship with this show. I love the fact that it's the best show TV has seen in years but I hate the fact that you only get one view of Baltimore from David Simon. Baltimore like any other old big city has it's good and bad spots. There are many beautiful sections of Baltimore and plenty of bad. Of couse you won't see that on this show. So keep on watching but remember a TV show doesn't tell the whole story. One more thing, the show is filmed mostly in East Baltimore not West Baltimore.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Weebay, my friend.

    by Cameron1

    First of all, much repsect for the name, you are clearly a fan. Second I woould say that it represents Simon and Ed Burns and Pelecanos' experiences of life on the street. There is a lot of beautiful stuff about Baltimore but the drama lies in the dark side. There's still hope and beauty in the wire it's just always tempered with darkness which is like real life. I work in the bad side of DC and The Wire is the one show that tells is like it is and tries to understand why it is too.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 4:47 p.m. CST

    cameron1...sit down with your talk

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    Marlo the baddest in Bodymore?...Listen up chump....OMAR DON'T SCARE!!! THAT'S RIGHT! OMAR! You think Marlo has the balls to call 911 on a man he just shot? nope....OMAR DOES! OMAR DON'T SCARE! BRING ON THE HOODIES! BRING ON THE COPS! OMAR CAN'T BE TOUCHED!...And thus, it's all in the game! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST

    ChickenGeorge.

    by Cameron1

    Haha, yeh man. Omar is the fucking badass, he's the American Dream right? I'm just saying Omar is mean, real fucking hardcore. Omar vs. Marlo is going to be fucking apocalyptic battle we want. You know the Barksdales got NOTHING on Omar and the Stansfield crew. I just want Brother Mouzone back, don't you?

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    this show blows

    by JudgeNXcutioner

    just kidding! lets see who flames without reading the post. This is me yo, right here.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Omar's Best Quote

    by glodene

    "You take a shot at the King, you best not miss!"

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:25 p.m. CST

    my best Omar moment is definitely...

    by Cameron1

    when he pwns the lawyer Levy during Birds trial. Fucking beautiful.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Brother Muzone should not be back this season

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    I think after the end of Season 3, and Brother Muzone's target (not saying in case it spoils) they need to keep Brother Muzone out of the picture until season 5, if it happens. David Simon has said that he intends THE WIRE to be five seasons, and I think that late in Season 5 would be a good time to bring back the Brother, his dumb lacey, and his magazine collection. I think Omar, out of boredom, may start to rob Marlo's crew, which will be fun, they appear pretty bright as well. They do scare for one...Bubbles. They won't think twice about taking him out. I agree, Marlo's crew will wreak havoc, but now that they will have the crown, they are the number one on everyone's list. "Plenty of men who wore the crown are in jail or in the ground" I think Marlo may be doomed if the forces gather on him....the police, Omar, Prop Joe, Slim Charles, and Barksdale's sister. But then, it might be Marlos time and Avon Barksdale's time is done. Too bad. Stringer gave him a way out, a beauty of a way out. Live like a thug, die like a thug. Think outside the box, and you just might win.....And thus, I still want to see The Greek! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Best show on television. Period.

    by scudd

    Seriously, nothing even comes close to the writing, direction and acting on this show. It's a masterpiece, and its weakest episodes are stil better than 95% of what's on television today.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    I'd sell my boney white ass on the street

    by Fenton Meiks

    To get the money to buy The Wire on dvd. Fortunately it won't come to that, because I have 39.99 in my bank account. This show is the terriers testes, it really is. I don't have the literary skill to express the amount of love I have for this programme. Crazy, ferocious, animal love. I feel it is my duty to try and share the love, as a way of repaying the multiple orgasms of enjoyment I get when I watch every episode. In the past week, I have posted my Series 1 and 2 boxsets to a friend in London to savour, watched the entire 3rd series in 2 days, and bought my dad the 1st series for his birthday (what son could do more?). PLEASE keep it coming HBO. I'll suck your dick.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:47 p.m. CST

    I take it all back...Bunk is the baddest man in Balty

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    It takes a real man to burn his suit in a pink robe while completly shitfaced. Say what you will, but would any of you burn your costly threads? Would any of you wear a fuzzy pink robe? I doubt Omar, Marlo, or anyone else has the cahones....And thus, gotta gid rid of the pussy smell! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:47 p.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure the Greek has flown.

    by Cameron1

    Even if he does the FBI watching his back. But I can see what you mean about Mouzone, he needs to stay away from Bawlmer for a while. Marlo is a smart motherfucker though, he's got the hunger that Avon used to have, he's got the smarts Bell used to have and he's got the will of both of them. He's a terrifying bastard. Prop Joe could still spell trouble, but with his NY connection I think he'll be more likely to offer Marlo a piece rather than take him out. The Barksdales seem fucked to me, along way gone.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Ashok0, it's serialized, but not like 24...

    by Cameron1

    that is; the writers don't make it up every 4 or 5 episodes. It's more like a novel. There is nothing CSI like about it. It's all about plot and character not fancy cgi effects or deus ex machina bullshit. Give season 1, 3 episodes, and if you are a thinking man you'll be hooked.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    The Shield is better.

    by MikeSal222

    Yeah, I'll say it. The Shield is a better cop show than The Wire. I watch TV to be entertained, and no show is more entertaining than The Shield. The Wire may be more "realistic", but I don't watch TV for realism. Actually most people watch TV to escape from reality for a few hours.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    Well...

    by Cameron1

    the fact that most people watch TV to be entertained is neither here nor there. Most people watch movies or read novels to be entertained, it doesn't mean that Stephen King is "better" than Phillip Roth or Saul Bellow, just that King's stuff is easier to read. And that's commendable, but sometimes people want nutritious AND tasty food instead of Big Mac and fries.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Far more than a serial

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    Not only do you need to watch THE WIRE...but you really need to get the DVDs and watch from the first season....they all tie in together. Not a one season story arc like 24.... Cameron1 - I think Marlo will stay independent from Prop Joe, just as he passed on Bell's offer. I agree Marlo is smart like Bell, but he thinks like Avon, only in the game, not looking for the legit ends when the game looks to the younguns. I also believe that Brianna Barksdale still feels she settle some scores and go after Marlo...but I think she will lose that battle...BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY - WHERE THE FUCKING HELL IS VALCHEK'S FUCKING VAN???? HASN'T THAT VAN MADE IT AROUND THE GLOBE YET????? Fuckin stevedores....And thus, Cheese needs a new dog! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    I disagree, so-called MikeSal

    by Fenton Meiks

    If "most people" watch TV to escape from reality, then why on Earth are 90% of the schedules full of Reality TV shite like Big Brother?? Don't get me wrong, I love The Shield too, but to claim that The Wire isn't entertaining because it's realistic, is a complete nonsense. ASHOK0, the only similarity between CSI and The Wire is that the cops have guns and arseholes. Watch The Wire, and if you don't like it, you can come round to my house and stamp on my nuts with running spikes. It's for you to decide if that's what I surreptitiously want to happen...

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST

    WARNING - YOU HAVE TO SEE ALL THREE SEASONS

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    I see some have suggested seeing season one or three...but I remind you...even thought Season Two has a focus on the docks, it gives all the background and roadmaps that explain why the drug trade in Baltimore is something worth fighting over. Pleas do not dismiss Season Two because of the docks...it makes the whole series that much deeper....besides, it also displays best how McNulty is a complete asshole....And thus, vote Sobatka! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Re:

    by MikeSal222

    I never said the Wire wasn't entertaining. Just not as entertaining as The Shield. The Wire is more of an acquired taste. The Shield is a pure adrenaline rush from start to finish, and has actually gotten better and better with every season.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST

    ChickenGeorge.

    by Cameron1

    Hmm I like your thinking on Marlo actually, he's an independent, but will he really pass up on the best product when he doesn't stand to lost his corners to Bell by doing so? Course he could always change the cap colours and tell everyone it's new shit! But I got to stay with my belief that the Barksdales are dead in the water. They got Slim Charles and Briana left...that's it. From the sounds of it even Bodie has gone over to Marlo's side. And damn I'd forgot about Valcheks van, hahahahaha that was great recurring moment. The corners are gonna get much tougher though now, with the Mayoral elections going on a tough street prescence is paramount.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Season 2

    by Cameron1

    Is brilliant. The detour is vital to understanding everything that goes on. In fact one of the really great moments in season 3 was seeing the old "vote Sabotka" posters around. Sabotka's relationship with his son was Shakesperean in fact. And Herc and Carv became Rosencrantz and Guilderstern in that series, it was excellent. I still think Ziggy was the best performance I've ever seen.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Speaking of the elections....

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    did you see who has joined the cast as Carletti's new assistant? Reg E. Cathey....from "OZ"....QUERNS! DON'T....FUCK....WITH QUERNS!...Yeah, my dick is hard thinking about it....I will poop my pants if at some point during the remainder of the show, we see the use of a surveillance van, and see a shot of the back end covered in stevedore union bumper stickers...if you see that and laugh, you are a hardcore fan...And thus, I wanna see Sweet Bea naked! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:41 p.m. CST

    yeah cameron1...you got that right...

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    ziggy was a FANTASTIC performance.....I cried three times during the series...first - "Where's Wallace? WHERE'S WALLACE?"...second...ziggy sitting in the car and lighting a smoke while waiting for the cops outside of the stereo store (and when he dropped the money on the wounded kid)...third, Prez telling Daniels that he was finished, and Daniels asking for a suicide watch....And thus, Ashy Larry is driving the limo! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Omar and Marlo do face off. McNulty only in 2 episodes

    by HIGH DEF JEFF

    If you go to HBO.com, check out the video section. They have something called "The Buzz"..which is a behind the scenes segment for their shows. In the one for The Wire, it shows Omar robbing a poker game that Marlo is is at. Marlo says something like "That's my money"..Omar replies "Money don't have owners, just spenders"....As for McNulty, what I have gathered is that he appears in the first and third episode and possibly another one later one. He is not a major character this season.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    So true...

    by weebay

    Much props Cameron1 on the name recognition. I did get the name from the Wire although I think they spell it Wee-bay. I love all of the characters on the show although I think my favorites are Freemon and Omar and you can't forget the Bunk.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Omar vs. Marlo

    by weebay

    Omar is the baddest homo-thug this side of Richard the Lionhearted. He's my favorite character on the show. He's the only character on the show that doesn't curse and he's affraid of no one. But Marlo Stanfield scars me. I know he's a fictional character but this brother is scary. Those cold dead eyes. The way he commands without ever raising his voice. The way he always seems to be one step ahead of his compition. His murder of that young lady last year was one of the worst things i've ever seen on screen. All he said after he killed her was. "Had to be done" I hope Omar can take him down a notch but Marlo might be the end of Omar.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Weebay.

    by Cameron1

    Damn right, Omar is the baddest motherfucker, but Marlo is just one evil sonofabitch. He's got no problems killing anyone or doing anything to win. You just know he wouldn't stand for the sunday truce either. Like you say, murdering that girl last season was horrifying. That's why Marlo fucks me up, cus he answers to nothing but his money.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 7:40 p.m. CST

    The Greatest Show in the History of TV Writing

    by twitaman

    Is this show. All other shows, especially cop/lawyer shows pail in comparison.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Marlo is the Mutant Strain of...

    by glodene

    Avon's street savvy amped up to the Nth degree, Stringer's ambitions and Omar's cunning strategy. That's a very formidable combination + plus the loyalty of his crew of young ruthless soldiers, i think that Omar's timeclock may get punched this season, which will lead to Prop Joe hiring Brother Mouzone to put and to Marlo's eventual ascension up the Scarface wannabe druglord ladder.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Oops! I mean put an end to

    by glodene

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 8:25 p.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure Wee-bay is actually spelled Wee-Bey.

    by HIGH DEF JEFF

    We shot a Noco D.

  • Aug. 4, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Probably one of the most difficult TV shows ever made.

    by The Wrong Guy

    Sorry if that makes me sound like a dumbass, but it's pretty hard to get into. Very good, though, once you do.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 3:50 a.m. CST

    Simply the best

    by martymcsuperfly

    The Wire is the Godfather of TV cop shows. If you think 24 is the greatest show ever, you'll hate The Wire. I can think of no higher compliment.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 8:18 a.m. CST

    by borisF

    I hate wire. Get a popsicle.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 8:59 a.m. CST

    can i start watching this starting now?

    by Toe Jam

    i've never seen a single episode, but i've been meaning to get around to watching all three previous seasons (they're in my netflix queue). should i wait until i see the previous seasons (will take forever) before i watch this new season?

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    ToeJam- Starting at season 4 will leave you lost.

    by HIGH DEF JEFF

    You will have no frame of reference for any of the characters..Example: They might mention it, but you'll not really understand why "Prez" is where he is during season 4..and that's me being vague so as not to spoil anything. Same scenario goes for McNulty. The Wire is one story and you wouldn't start reading a book at chapter 8.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Toe Jam: Yes, absolutely

    by emu47

    Start from the beginning. You *could* probably watch it starting in fresh on four, but you would be so much the better seeing it all straight through. And, as has been said, be patient with the show's beginning. It starts a little slow, but it pays off. You must trust it for a little while. But in the end, you will be soooo glad you did.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Got dem WMDs right chere, right chere!

    by SID 8.0

    This is one of the few shows, maybe the only show that has actually raised it's game every season. The only thing I hate about it is the long-ass wait between seasons. No better TV show on. I almost wrote no better "cop" show but that's way to limiting.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    and yeah ... fuck the Emmy voters

    by emu47

    Grey's Anatomy is Friends meets ER. Totally fucking average, in other words. Personally, I'm stoked for Season 4 of the Wire for no other reason than that it is going to be in large part drawn from Ed Burns's (and no, it's not that Ed Burns for any newbies out there) direct experiences teaching. He's a unique guy, and I can't wait to see what he brings to the table this time around.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 12:21 p.m. CST

    y'all shot a church crown...

    by QuemaPueblos

    i've always maintained that to my friends that we haven't been watching the fall of the barksdales this whole time... no, sir. we've been watchin the rise of young Bodie Broadus!! not one survivor in the whole crew BUT bodie! also, my prediction, Omar bites the bullet this one... at the hands of one of the kids!! you heard it here first!

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST

    ...off a bonafide colored lady?

    by QuemaPueblos

    comparing the Shield to the Wire is like comparing a shot of tequila to some well-aged cognac...

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Been Waiting Two Years For This...

    by DrTobiasFunke

    Best show on television. Ever. I can't wait to pick up season 3 on dvd. I watched it in 2004 when it aired on HBO and refused to watch it again until the DVDs were out. Tuesday's the day.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST

    by earlylooker

    The new season--which I've seen all of--feels closer to season 2 than to season 1 or 3. The four young boys really do take center stage. And they offer some brilliant performances, especially considering their age. There are a numbrer of "where's wallace" moment of great power in these stories. One of the kids is Wee-Bay's son so he shows up in a number of episodes. The casting directors on the Wire really deserve praise. They consistently manage to find little-known actors for key roles and get them to deliver great performances (exhibit #1 Chris Bauer as Frank Sobotka. Exhibt #2 James Ransome as Ziggy). So this season we see a lot of Cutty (another great performance) and Carceti running for mayor. Carceti comes across as a much more complicated and thus interesting character. He's not just the arrogant punk he was in previous seasons. We learn more about Bunny Colvin's home life and the frustrations that drove him to open Hamsterdam. Its true that we see little of Jimmy McNulty but the show doesn't seem worse for the wear. He only makes what amounts to a few cameo appearences, but Dominic West makes the most of his limited screen time. And we do manage to learn alot about what has happened to McNulty (who still walking a beat as indicated at the end of season 3). The rise of Marlo is another important theme and a really interesting story. Marlo seems like a combo of Avon and Stringer. We never learned much about the rise of Avon so this story treads fresh ground. Few of the Barksdale crew play major roles in this season. Bode is peripheral to the story until nearly the very end. Ok, I've said to much. Suffice to say I watched the entire fourth season over two days in a six and seven hour marathon. It was that good. And then I went back and rewatched 1, 2 and 3 on DVD because I was so jazzed. No true Wire fan will at all be disappointed.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    The Wire > 24

    by DrTobiasFunke

    The amount of characters in The Wire is pretty big. Season 1 pretty much focuses on the west side drug dealers, cops, homicide detectives, and a couple of homeless guys. Season 2 focuses on all of these plus dock workers, east side drug dealers, and "The Greeks." Season 3 focuses on the west side drug dealers, cops, homicide detectives, a couple of homeless guys, east side drug dealers, and the mayor/political landscape. Season 4 will focus on everything from Season 3 plus a few kids and the school system. Complicated? Yes, but there is no better reward for paying attention to details. Strung together, they're all one huge movie.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Ashoko -- I started loving TV because of Twin Peaks and

    by emu47

    The Wire is my new favorite TV show of all time. Granted, few things compare with good Lynch ("How's Annie? How's Annie?"), but the Wire is far more consistant than Peaks (which I have seen six times through and grow very weary of James and Donna and Josie) and more credible and important than a show like 24 (which I also deeply love on its own terms, no matter how many times it jumps the shark).

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    and for the record, i hate CSI with a passion

    by emu47

    As well as every other CSI clone out there. In fact, I was even disappointed with HBO when I saw they'd gone and made a cop show ('another cop show' is what I remember thinking at the time). I even made a rule that all cop shows had to be taken out and shot. I started watching the first episodes, ready to tear it to shreds. But there was just something different about it, and I couldn't even tell you what it was exactly. It was something with the way the cops were dragged onto this case McNulty was pushing for. It was something about D'Angelo. It was something about the Towers and the Barksdale crew. And before I knew it, the show had me. By the time I got to "Where's Wallace at?", there was no resistance left in me--only a question whether any show would ever again drag me in by my soul the way the Wire did. Absolute brilliance. GREAT storytelling.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Ashoko

    by glodene

    An much as i love 24, comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges...But when making a choice, i would choose The Wire in a heartbeat. Granted some of my friends complained that it starts off slow, but it never fails to draw them in by the second or third ep. and by then they're totally hooked to the point of obsession. Every season without exception, paces itself like a Mozart symphony - subtle and quiet, but ends with a mind-blowing crescendo. (Pretentious, but true)

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST

    and wherever the execs found the guy who plays Omar

    by emu47

    man, did they strike gold. I love to watch the Bunk / Omar stuff. So good.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 5:46 p.m. CST

    The Shield is better? ROTFL

    by thevisitor

    I've always said The Shield is more cartoon than reality. One cop gets away with more illegal garbage than an entire precinct of amid level city gets away with in one year's time. Ninsense. Even worth it glorifies that punkass, while a show as smart as The Wire doesn't try to do that with any of its characters. The Shield simply seems to be a combination of "Training Day" with "The Sopranos". "Training Day" was a mainstream hit about a corrupt LA cop (when there was a lot of reports about that type of individual in the news) and "The Sopranos" showed that a mainstream hit could be made of a cable show with lots of raw language and a main hero who was essentially a very bad, very corrupt and very viloent individual (of course Tony was fives times more deepand complex than Mickey...and The Sopranos, during its best years, was five times the show). Oh, did I forget to mention the stunt casting each season of Hollywood stars who can no longer get consistent work in films (despite their talents)? Hello, Glen. Hello, Forest. I can't even take The Shield seriously as a show, not with all its over the top antics and its unrealistic portryal of cops and the hapless criminals that are captured all too easily and kicked around in order to get 'em to cough up confessions (didn't NYPD Blue akready cover this ground)? That being said I can understand why more "sheep" flock to a show like The Shield. Its less complicated and I suppose in terms of regular shootouts and fist fights and sex and chases I guess it can be viewed as more entertaining. But, hell, "War of the Worlds" was more entertaining than "Truman" and "Good Night and Good Luck". Nonetheless the last latter two movies were better films than "War of the Worlds". And "The Wire"is a better show than "The Shield". Less exciting to the masses perhaps (unless if you're like me and you're more entertained by intelligent and thoughtful and insightful writing) but ultimately far more rewarding. Years ago I got sick of NYPD Blue real quick because Homicide:Life on the Streets pointed how unrealistic David Milch's version of true detective work (slapping around spinless criminals until they fessed up...which happened EVERY episode). And I can't even watch those crappy CSI shows or other CBS police procedurals because The Wire has further educated me how much those shows make a mockery of true police work. Not to mention the eye the groundwork the show has tackled in showing what happens on the streets, why many people fall into a criminal lifestyle and how the war on drugs is truly progressing (or is it regressing?). 40 or more years from now (if this planet still exists) and scholars, historians, sociologists and students want to know what happened in America's cities, The Wire would be something they could watch and get a great understanding of the problems our urban areas had to confront. The Shield, on the other hand, would be about as realistic as Bonanza seems to us right now. Of course this makes sense considering The Wire has the benefit of writers who covered these issues when they were journalists for major newspapers or saw things first hand when they were cops and then teachers at city schools. Not to mention the show gets contributions from novelists and playwriters while The Shield is just one of many TV shows that rely exclusively on USC students who chose screenwriting as a profession after they got their communications degree. The Wire is at another level. Keep tuning into that escapist nonsense all you want but don't insult the intelligence of us Wire junkies by suggesting that The Shield is better.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 6:50 p.m. CST

    The Wire's Back!!!!

    by Red Ned Lynch

    This show's so good I don't have a single snarky thing to say. Yeah, it's that damned good.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Emu47

    by Red Ned Lynch

    You couldn't be more right. I didn't watch this show until after the third season aired, and I've given everything HBO shows a try. It was another cop show in a sea of cop shows and I can't stand the damned CSI hundred city tour. In the end some of my friends pleaded me into Netflixing season one. After the first disc my entire queue was the first two seasons, and after that I did not rest until I had season three, and I like it so much I still can't wait to buy it properly, even at HBO robber baron prices. Oh yeah, the boy is happy today.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Omar is going to teach Marlo...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    that "my money" is a temporary thing.

  • Aug. 5, 2006, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Amen Chicken George on Season 2 **SPOILERS**

    by MGTHEDJ

    The show is best enjoyed in order because the show is about layers. I loved season 2 because it was about "unintended consequences." **SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT**--- Ok, season 2 showed us who the supplier was. It showed how the govt. goes after the middle-men and retailers in the Drug War but the suppliers are protected because they also run weapons to other parts of the world and keep all those high end brothels on the U.S. eastern seaboard stocked with good looking white women. The dock workers think they can get ahead but only end up in the crossfire and lose everything: Sobodka's deat, his son ending up in prison, and massive layoffs. Sobodka's nephew, who went to work smuggling in order to buy a place for his family in the old working class neighborhood since he could not afford it otherwise, in the end has to leave the city. When he looks at the docks one last time before going into witness protection I thought "Kid, go to Omaha, Nebraska or Dodge City, Ks., and work at Wal-Mart for the rest of your life. See to it your daughter gets staight A's and earnes a full ride scholorship to Northwestern. Then your family will finally have money and your grandkids can move back and buy that place in the old Balmar neighborhood." The show is great tragedy.-----later-----m

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Mcnulty is barely in this season?

    by optimus122

    That sucks

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Dang Opti!

    by glodene

    Will wonders never cease! Just seems like yesterday that I was razzin' you about the demise of Carnivale and that you need to check out The Wire. Btw, what do you like better The Shield or The Wire? Seein' how we were debatin' (in a somewhat immature way) on which show was better.

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST

    How about bringing David Milch in to work on WIRE

    by chickychow

    Fuck this surfer show he's doing. With Deadwood heading toward blazes (25 More "Bricks" just showed up) I wouldn't mind if Milch came on to help omplicate matters for the Po-lice even more. (That or - as I've said time and time again - he should be the showrunner for the Star Wars t.v. show)

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST

    and Hey! this is a nice TB we got goin here.

    by chickychow

    didnt expect such a turnout but I like it. This kicks those obnoxious Lost tb's asses and takes their drug money after tying them up and gagging them. Herc, you'd better have a weekly Wire TB like you do with Sopranos (cuz theres always so much going on in that show) but don't do with Deadwood. Cocksucka!

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    by Veraxus

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    "Learn What Awaits McNulty and Omar!!"

    by Veraxus

    Hopefully, cancellation.

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Never seemed interested in the show...

    by DanielKurland

    But based from all of the raves on here, I am going to watch it all. And I hope I can get some new pinnacle piece of television. I just watched all of Entourage (and although it is clearly an entirely different type of show) and I am loving it.

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Scrivener

    by BabatuFerguson

    There always has to be at least one worthless piece of human garbage flame bait in every talkback. Thanks for stepping up to the plate, you pathetic sack of rancid feces! Your dedication is admirable.

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Fuck... Fuck Me... Motherfucker

    by Kungfumanchu

    Any show that can make a coherent (and important) scene just by using variations of my favorite word, can count me as a fan for life.

  • Aug. 6, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    The greatest story ever told?

    by John-Locke

    Maybe, maybe not. It's certainly the best thing that has ever been on TV, I'd rather watch an episode of The Wire than 99.9999% of movies, it's on the same Level as a Kubrickian Classic, equally intelligent, insightful, relevant and at the same time occasionally hilarious. Maybe it's not that pretty to look at but that doesn't make it any less important. Pure genius. \as for season 4... I've always thought Bodie was the real heart of the show, I hope he gets some good screen time and can't wait to see what decisions he makes and the consequences. Omar is my favourite character, I'd love it if he got his own spin off show, he's like Robin Hood.

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Someone called...

    by BizarroJerry

    The Wire the most rewarding show on television, and it's true. You have to want to really follow this show to appreciate what's going on. It's not full of exposition, and it doesn't hold your hand and tell you what to think. But it's definitely the kind of show that HBO will make and a network would not. Networks want a show that anyone can just sit down and watch without having to be a longtime viewer. The Wire is the antithesis of that. I know people who don't like that kind of show. They just like a show that give them an hour of entertainment and they don't have to invest much time or attention to. If you're like that (which is ok), you will not like The Wire. You may hate it, in fact. But Hell, there's constant filthy language and the occasional sex and nudity that everyone can enjoy!

  • Aug. 7, 2006, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Forgot to add...

    by BizarroJerry

    I really have a thing for DA Pearlman. I'll be waiting for some nakedness from her this season.

  • Aug. 8, 2006, 4:45 p.m. CST

    The Wire Is Back

    by gandalftheblack

    By Far, the best show on TV. I'm the biggest 24, The Shield, Lost fan there is. All those shows rely on sensationalism and excitement to tell their stories. The wire relies on the characters and the successful telling of the story thoughout the season. It is also the most realistic show on TV. I just moved to MD from Jersey and first though the wire was just TV fluff- B-MORE IS NO JOKE. There are a million Marlos, Avon, Prop Joe, and Omars there currently. The creators of this should get an emmy every year for this show. It'll be interesting to see how Marlo handles the big chair now that String and Avon are gone. I don't want Cuddy to go back into the life, but would LOVE to see how Prop Joe handles the new power struggle. It'll be very interesting to see how the school system plays a role with everything.

  • Aug. 13, 2006, 12:23 p.m. CST

    'One day at a time, I 'spect.'

    by Negator76

    Omar kicks ass. And yes, this is the finest show ever produced for television. American or otherwise. As someone who is a hardcore 'Homicide' freak, there's still no argument that 'The Wire' eclipsed 'Homicide' long ago. Even though I will always love that show. Just finished Season 3, which like all the seasons, meticulously built a layered narrative, piece by piece, until it reached another shattering, yet supremely satisfying, conclusion. Major Colvin is the best character since Frank Sobotka departed. 'Just get on with it, motherf---' And will we see more of Rawl's 'sensitive' side?