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BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!! ComicCon Brings More Season-Three Clues!!

I am – Hercules!!

A new spy, “Baltar Andfeathered,” attended this weekend’s ComicCon panel with the "Battlestar Galactica" cast and showrunner Ronald D. Moore. Here's "Baltar":

Hey Herc, first time long time.

Didn’t see anything on the “Battlestar Galactica” panel at ComicCon, so I thought I’d relay a few highlights. Sorry it’s all from memory.

- Ronald D. Moore told the crowd ten of the season-three episodes (IIRC) would tell a protracted story set aboard a base-star. This will allow the creators to further explore Cylon society.

- He said to expect a lot of nudity aboard the base-star.

- Moore confirmed one of the 12 Cylon models will indeed be put out to pasture, and it will be one we’ve already met. He said this won’t happen, though, until late in season three.

- One character (one working with Lee?) will be missing a “vital” body part.

- Baltar will remain puppet president under the Cylon occupation.

- Expect some long-anticipated hook-ups to finally manifest themselves. Laura & Bill? Lee & Kara?

- Bill & Lee’s relationship, however, will continue to deteriorate.

- It sounds like [veteran writer-producer Remi Aubuchon (“The Lyon’s Den,” “24”)] brought the “Caprica” prequel series idea to Moore, and [Aubuchon] will serve as showrunner, leaving Moore free to concentrate on “Galactica” actual.

Love the column! If you use this, call me “Baltar Andfeathered”.







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  • July 23, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    First!

    by JediShaft

  • July 23, 2006, 3:15 p.m. CST

    hookups

    by loonigrrl

    I'd almost rather we didn't get these anticipated hookups, what they've been doing so far been good enough.

  • July 23, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Good stuff

    by chopstyx

    Can't wait for season 3 - although I wish they'd lauch a full season 2 box set rather than this 2.1 and 2.2 crap...

  • July 23, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST

    "Vital body part" and other info (Spoilers)

    by covenant

    Probably Tigh's eye. Seen the teaser video? Flixens has it up, though it's "old news." Looking forward to this new season. *Spoilers ahead for those who don't know* --Baltar will spend time aboard a basestar, and we will meet a new Cylon type. A well-known character will meet their demise early in the new season...speculation is on Gaeta, Helo, or Tyrol. An old military friend of Adama's shows up during the first story arc, and apparently he holds a grudge. There will be SIGNIFICANT human losses this season...thousands will die. The total number of survivors will likely fall below 40,000. Guerilla warfare and terrorist tactics will be employed by the Colonials against the Cylon occupation. There will be a temporary falling out between Adama and Tigh, but things will get patched up. Speculation says that Baltar will finally join the Cylon cause, though this is still just rumor. There's more; that's all I remember for now.

  • July 23, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    The only hookup I want to see

    by Itchy

    is my unit and Boomer's hot little cylon booty.

  • July 23, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Pegasus?

    by DarthStallion

    Does the Pegasus survive the season?

  • July 23, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST

    "expect a lot of nudity aboard the base-star."

    by Bob of the Shire

    Must See TV.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Expect a lot of NINO

    by Gorrister

    Nudity in name only

  • July 23, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Spoiler answer to DarthStallion

    by TorrentialRain

    It has been mentioned here and elsewhere who the person to die is in 3.3, and it is not Gaeta, Helo, or Tyrol. The Pegasus bites it at that time as well. Too bad, I like the story flexibility the 2nd Battlestar brings.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    I tried getting into this panel

    by Doc_Strange

    But the line was unbelievable long, like people had been waiting all day just to get in there. Was a big letdown because I wanted to meet the cast. Being the greatest show on TV, however, they probably already know this and didn't need me to tell them that.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST

    TorrentialRain

    by DarthStallion

    Thanks for the answer, and I agree. You could've had one battlestar going out and exploring the new frontier (kind of "Star Trek"-ish) while the other sticks close to the fleet.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Starbuck and Apollo should not get together

    by performingmonkey

    The tension between them should remain, otherwise it will fuck everything up.

  • July 23, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    agreed, performingmonkey

    by Strabo

    I don't think a relationship between Apollo and Starbuck would work very well...they're far more effective dancing around each other with perhaps a one-night-stand here and there. Also, if they're doing a large arc onboard a base star with a bunch of nekkid Boomers running around, I'll be watching the show sans pants.

  • July 23, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    The Big Reveal!!!

    by MetalWater

    Wasn't Adama supposed to be secretly banging the imprisoned Boomer? BTW, in other news...NBC will be running Sunday Night Football this season...With that in mind, they should run some Galactica episodes right after the games in order to pick-up some mainstream audiences. And as far as the new prequel series Caprica is concerned, I am tired of all this prequel-itous already!!! George Lucas does something...and not very well, and everybody and their brother has to copy the format...This is ridiculous!!! Retire the prequel...morons!!! It's tired and it just doesn't work!!! There is nothing in this new series that they couldn't have told us about, concerning the back story of the Colonials, through flashbacks on the Galactica series!!! Kill the prequel...Kill all prequels!!! Kill...Kill Bill, the animated prequels!!! Kill them all!!!

  • July 23, 2006, 7:43 p.m. CST

    I agree about Prequels

    by Gorrister

    Lucas revived and ultimately killed the Prequel concept in one movie (and continued to piss on the grave for two more films). If they wanted to do a spin-off, it probably should have been centered around some Cain-esque officers taking control of Pegasus and turning around to try to drive the Cylons out of the Caprica System. That way, we'd be able to follow the journey to Earth while seeing what is happening back at the colonies at the same time.

  • July 23, 2006, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Gorrister

    by Eaglet1138

    'Caprica' wasn't Moore's idea. Aubuchon pitched the idea of a show set in the near future, about robotics, and Sci-Fi decided that it wouldn't do well unless they made it a tie-in with Galactica. Moore thought with a few changes, the show could do well. But a Moore/Eick-led spin-off is not going to happen anytime soon. They're too busy working on Galactica.

  • July 23, 2006, 9 p.m. CST

    The Battlestar Pegasus TV Show!!!

    by MetalWater

    Gorrister...you're right!!! Forget about the so called Caprica show...The Battlestar Pegasus concept that you came up with...is exactly what the new show needs to be. This constant garbage of Galactica on the run makes them all look like a bunch of cowards!!! If Sci-Fi wants some big ratings...do a Side-quel...not a prequel of the series!!! Let's see the Battlestar Pegasus return to the Colonies to war with the Cylons, and slow the enemy from concentraiting its full resources on going after Galactica and its rag tag fleet!!!...We might see the Pegasus and crew assist human resistance fighters who are survivors of the Cylon nuke attacks and subsequent invasion. This, in addition to perhaps locating surviving elements of the Colonial Fleet, still waging war against the Cylons and perhaps some, rogue Colonial Fleet Officers and their crews, collaborating with the enemy. This could lead to some interesting episodes as the Pegasus crew discovers the truth, and must battle againts these rogue groups, the Cylons, etc. The possibilities are endless, and could easily be used to tell us alot about the back story of the 12 Colonies, as well as the destiny of the 13th Colony. I suspect that the story of the 13th Colony leaving to find Earth, may not have been a historical reference as the Colonials currently believe, but the story or myth of the 13th Colony leaving for Earth is a prediction...a prophecy. In other words, the Galactica and the rag tag fleet are the 13th Colony!!! A fact that they are unaware of as yet!!! I'm telling you...such a series would not only compliment Galactica's ratings, but would easily trump them!!! It would also be cool to have some of the cast of Galactica perminently transfered over to the Pegasus...and things might be further complicted if they find Zack, Lee's brother, alive...having returned with split loyalties between the enemy and The Colonists!!! Prequels are dead!!! Long live the Side-quel!!!

  • July 23, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    DOC STRANGE

    by Luvs269er

    Why didn't you just use the "Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth" to move yourself to the front of the line?

  • July 23, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Dad vs. Son...we've already been there...twice

    by SantiagoAtez

    This whole "deteriating relationship" has me worried...we've already been through it twice. I totally expect disagreements through the season between Lee and his dad...but nothing so dramatic as what we've seen. Dad vs. Son was a huge plot in Season 1 and 2, and shouldn't be a huge concentration in 3...it will just be more of the same, and nothing we haven't seen before. Well, there's two cents from a big fan.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    SG1-Atlantis

    by cerebulon

    I really like the side-quel too.... and speaking of the Stargates: Why don't the humans let the Wraith get over to our galaxy and have THEM go after the Ori? We are talking about the same species that drove the Ancients to extinction. They did it before and they can do it again! The wraith are our secret weapon. C'mon guys... wake up!

  • July 23, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Side-quels & other stuff

    by kdoc13

    I always thought that the idea of the guerilla war on Caprica would have made for better tv. Sort of a how a resistance grows and takes back their world kind of thing. But that seems to have gone bye-bye since Starbuck went back and picked people up. As for the nudity. NINO, agreed. But any bit of Boomer flesh I get to see before they kill her off will be appreciated. The only hookups should be Bill & Laura, Baltar & Six, and Tyrol & his wifey chick. That's it.

  • July 24, 2006, 12:56 a.m. CST

    MetalWater

    by Strabo

    Let me guess, you just _love_ 24, right?

  • July 24, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    24...Is Well Done But...

    by MetalWater

    No...I can't seem to get through an entire episode of 24...And although they had a cool plane landing scene (on a freeway) that I accidently saw last week, they lost me after that. I hate when plots drag on. But I'll tell you, while it lasted...the plane landing and the action surrounding it was film worthy! The scene unfolded as the corrupt President ordered the plane, a passenger jumbo jet, shot down to kill Jack, a rogue agent, who had incriminating evidence on the Commander And Chief!!! After that, it all fell back into the morass of writer's prerogative influenced predictability.

  • July 24, 2006, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Pegasus spin-off

    by Gorrister

    The main reason I would love to see Pegasus get it's own show and return to the Colonies is mostly to allow Galactica to move forwards. After two seasons, Galactica is still within "vacation distance" of Caprica. I mean, Starbuck has gone back TWICE already! It just doesn't feel like they have really moved forward any significant distance (both physically and story-wise).

  • July 24, 2006, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Galactica vs Pegasus!!! The Side-quel Debate!!!

    by MetalWater

    Agreed...and that is another thing that is hurting the show ratings wise!!! They really need to push Galactica beyond just the threat of the Cylons...but the threat of a Colonial insurgency that doesn't know, or believe the Colonies have been destroyed. Hence, they view the approuch of a fully armed Battlestar as a attack...and are prepared to used stollen nuclear weapons to defend themselves. These people might view the Cylons as potential allies and liberators...while viewing the Colonies as tyrants. Perhaps, we'll also get treated to a Cylon civil war which is brewing among their own leadership, or maybe even between the human looking Cylons and the mechanical ones. Galactica needs something new to freshen it up...I'd really love to see the re-introduction of Sheeba ...Commander Cain's ace fighter pilot daughter, and her bad as fighter squadron, the Silver Spare Squadron, if I remember correctly!!! Meanwhile, in terms of a Battlestar Pegasus series, I'd love to see how various aspects of the Colonial military work other than the fleet...like their heavy armored infantry groups (tanks) still doing battle with the enemy on Colonial worlds...and special forces teams, etc. Or how about an episode where the Cylons suspect that the Colonials may have reprogrammed a Cylon operative or soldier and placed it among them as a survalence gathering tool...turning the tables on the Cylons themselves. Would that mere suggestion be enough to breed distrust, paranoia and suspicion even among a race of artificially created beings like the Cylons...and would it be enough to cause them to explore their more human like imperfections (fear, xenophobia, self preservation, etc.)...in the absence of proof of such a mole even existing in the first place??? This would be the flip side of the paranoia the humans they are at war with are experiencing with having to deal with Cylon infultraitors...the parallels of this could be interesting to explore!!!

  • July 24, 2006, 7:50 a.m. CST

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    by DaBigKahuna

    Long Load time for me on that page. Try http://geek-chat.com/Boards/viewforum.php?f=11 for the poster, they seem to be much faster.

  • July 24, 2006, 8:10 a.m. CST

    SantiagoAtez

    by newc0253

    i agree, father v son was getting old by the end of season 1 and it seemed pretty much resolved by end of season 2. it would be almost as boring to resurrect adama v roslin. hopefully this rumour is just chaff.

  • July 24, 2006, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Disappointed

    by Phimseto

    Bill and Lee's relationship deteriorate? That's disappointing. Watching Lee from the mini-series through the S.2 finale is compelling. He goes from being a petulant kid to his father's son. I liked that by the end of season 2 the two of them were on the same page and had reached a level of understanding/maturity between them. If things regress from that, it seems like it will be that ol' tv trap of servicing the need for material instead of staying true to a character's development arc.

  • July 24, 2006, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Bill and Lee don't get along? *Yawn*

    by Gorrister

    Been there, done that to death. I'm more interested in the temporary falling out of Bill and Tigh. Having people who don't get along suddenly get along even less doesn't make for very exciting storytelling. Having two good friends have a falling out makes for a great story. We saw a bit of a fallout of Bill and Tigh during the insane search for Starbuck in "You Can't Go Home Again" when Bill put the entire human race in danger just to find Starbuck. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens to them both this time around. (Although I would like to see Tigh finally get rid of his wife. Annoying characters only work for so long before they start dragging the show down)

  • July 24, 2006, 11:30 a.m. CST

    (SPOILERS) The human that dies & the cylon boxed

    by SkiffyPup

    Ellen Tigh. Early on is season 3. The boxed cylon, I do believe, will be Deanna Biers (3). They only signed Lawless to do 10 episodes of season 3.

  • July 24, 2006, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Like I said, NINO

    by Gorrister

    Moore is just misleading everyone. The so-called "nudity" will be more of the same of what we've seen already....just more of it. Naked people in poor lighting being filmed with some creative photography. I promise you that you can see far more skin at the local beach or pool. American TV is about 50 years behind the rest of the world. Until then, it'll just be a bunch of NINO.

  • July 24, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST

    More Centurions please.

    by Doom II

    Yeah, the female Cylons are hot, but I want more metal Cylons tearing shit up. And have then talk, or at least show some of the older (original 70's) models in action from time to time. We saw 1 in a display case during the pilot and that was it. Where are the thousands of other ones? Were they melted down?

  • July 24, 2006, 6:37 p.m. CST

    By Your Command

    by NoHubris

    Does this mean that PUPPET President Baltar will be the one to utter this phrase?... Baltar as a puppet prez is another innovative way of re-imagining the character. Nice nod to TOS.

  • July 24, 2006, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Alas! Poor Centurions!

    by Gorrister

    Unfortunately, Ron Moore has gone on the record that the Cylon Centurions (for whatever reason) are NOT living, sentient beings and are not capable of independent thought or speaking. Personally, I think Moore slammed the door on tons of potential storylines. I mean, what is more interesting: Having human-like Cylons learn what it means to be human....or having completely mechanical beings coming to grips with the same thing? The whole debate about whether Cylons are alive or 'just machines' would carry a LOT more weight if the Cylons actually LOOKED like machines. But Moore, in yet another stroke of brilliance, has relegated the Centurion, quite literally, into the category of 'toaster'.

  • July 24, 2006, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Discontinued Cylon Model

    by Gorrister

    Yeah, it makes a lot of sense that Biers would be the model to get recalled. And not just because of any contract Lucy Lawless may or may not have. If you watch "Downloaded", Biers very much speaks for the Old Guard Cylon philosophy. However influential Caprica Boomer and Six are, I doubt they succeed in converting this model to their new vision for the future. Biers will probably be seen as problematic and will thus be discontinued. But then again, you never know. Could be the ol' Doctor model. We've only seen him in one episode so far! Maybe that actor got a better offer elsewhere.

  • July 24, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    I'd like the classic main theme to come back

    by Drath

    The openning music sucked worse in season 2 than in season 1. The music for the series is great, and the drums are fun, but dammit, the original theme is a classic and should be brought back. Only chickens would keep it down.

  • July 24, 2006, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Sorry Doc_Strange.....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    The crowd trying to get into this panel was so damn HUGE, I couldn't see either end of it from both sides of the entrance. They'll have to have this panel in Hall H next year if this keeps up. The best part of the panel was watching Olmos drop spoilers left and right and seeing Moore and the producer squirming in their seats. CLASSIC!

  • July 24, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    The Theme Music!!!

    by MetalWater

    If they want to bring in more viewers bringing back the original theme music, one of the best ever for any production...movie or television, would help greatly in that cause!!! The drum theme is a bore fest that is a turn off!!! It just saves, "Go channel surf" to me!!!

  • July 24, 2006, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Theme Music

    by NoHubris

    The original theme music is nice, but it would be too much of a throw back IMHO, particularly because of its Star Wars sound. I agree with Drath that Season 1 theme was better. The images of the nasty red eyed Cylon raider, Roslin's swearing in, and the fleet moving through space all had a more powerful impact than with year two music.

  • July 24, 2006, 10:54 p.m. CST

    The music??

    by Hairy Nutsack

    [sarcasm] MetalWater is right, I can't tell you how many shows I watch because they have great theme music. I don't care what happens between, just give me some great opening and closing theme music and I'll park my ass in front of the TV. You betcha, screw story and production values, just give me a catchy theme overlaid with a nifty font and I'm there, must see(hear) TV all they way!!! [/sarcasm]

  • July 24, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Themes

    by Gorrister

    I like the new theme a lot (Season One theme sucked, but that was a last minute replacement. The Season Two theme is the 'original' new BSG theme). As for the TOS theme, I agree that it is really great, but I don't want to see it used as the theme for this BSG. I guess I don't want the new show to 'rob' the old show of it's originality. When I hear that theme, I think about the old show and only the old show. It's kinda like how in Star Trek, The Next Generation stole it's theme from The Motion Picture. Now when people hear that theme, they think about the Next Generation series and not the movie that the score originally came from. In short, it's cool to keep the past alive, but don't cheapen it.

  • July 24, 2006, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Theme music does have a role

    by NoHubris

    If it meant nothing, the producers wouldn't have changed it, and stayed with the first Season theme. Theme music helps to set the tone and does say something about the show, which likely had something to do with the Season 2 change. Of course, opening theme music doesn't make or break a show like story and production values, but the right music helps transport the viewer into the world that the story presents.

  • July 25, 2006, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Hopefully...

    by slapshot

    ... the nudity will involve Lee Adama. Damn, that Jamie Bamber is a sexy bitch! (And he had a great cover story in "Out" magazine this month. Bet y'all missed that one... ;-)

  • July 25, 2006, 4:41 a.m. CST

    yawn...

    by Maniaq

    Moore himself admitted he hadn't devoted enough attention to S2 and I for one say it's pretty obvious. Most episodes were ok, some were pretty lame, VERY FEW were outstanding. Compare this to S1 (fewer eps, admittedly) where you were literally on the edge of your seat and I think you can see where S3 is going... Especially if he's gonna divert even more of his attention away from Galactica to think about Caprica! Sorry guys, but since the introduction of Pegasus, the show had me yawning pretty much the whole time, and then when they pulled that ONE YEAR LATER shit that was just plain INSULTING! I think Pegasus has had her time, she's served her purpose, and now it's time to get back to the friggin story! GALACTICA! It's in the title! Just my 2c....

  • July 25, 2006, 6:10 a.m. CST

    The "Changed" Theme

    by Gorrister

    The original theme (the one that played in the UK for two seasons and US for Season Two) was changed on the executive level. Some "suit" didn't like the original theme (I heard the reason was that it wasn't "military" enough) and so Moore et al had to change it before it aired in the US. A combination of high ratings and fans complaining about the change gave Moore the pull at SciFi/NBC to change it back to the original. The theme was NOT changed to pull in more viewers. BSG already had some of the highest ratings SciFi had ever seen for a regular series. Sure, a theme is important to a seies, but a series CAN survive with a lousy theme if everything else in the show is well done.

  • July 25, 2006, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Amen, Maniaq

    by Gorrister

    FINALLY, I have found a kindred spirit out there! I thought I was alone. :) For some reason, BSG fans refuse to acknowledge that Moore said that Season Two didnt meet his expectations and not enough time was spent on scripts. This was the sole reason he managed to get the premire of Season Three pushed back to October....yet I've been flamed time and again by fanatics on this site who insist that it is because of post-production and special effects. Season Two saw a large drop in quality compared to Season One. As you said, there are a few outstanding episodes, but for the most part it fails to live up to expectations. Personally, I have always felt the "Arrow of Apollo" storyline could easily have been condensed into two or three episodes (once you cut the boring crap out).

  • July 25, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Theme Music - Gorrister ...

    by NoHubris

    maybe on a subconscious level you like Season 1 better because of the theme music! (Just kidding)...I do still watch the show because it's a good show. I was mainly citing the different impact the images seem to have with the Season 1 theme...I didn't know about the fan uproar RE: the UK music. Thanks for the back ground info

  • July 25, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Don't care what Moore said.....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Whether it was script, post production, or whatever, I enjoyed season 2 immensely and disagree that it was bad and/or boring. You people that didn't enjoy it as much as I are entitled to your opinions of course.

  • July 25, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Gorrister, Moore said no such thing.

    by FluffyUnbound

    He found fault with individual episodes, or individual plot elements, during some of the podcasts. But being honest about the parts of the show that don't work as well as he'd like is part of his podcast shtick. To characterize this as some sort of statement that Season Two as a whole was bad is a real stretch.

  • July 26, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST

    The Ultimate Hookup

    by SeedyAl

    I think Adama and the doctor should screw each others' brains out in the O.R. Dock could bend Adama over an operating table and, cigarette dangling from mouth, pound the old man mercilessly. This would not harm the quality of the show, since it already sucks, and might provide some laughter.

  • July 26, 2006, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Edward James Olmos Agrees...The Cylons Are The Heroes!

    by MetalWater

    According to Comic Book Resource...during a panel at Comic-Con, Eward James Olmos appears to have indicated that the humans on Galactica may not be the heroes on the show!!! This has been my contention all along...the Cylons are the heroes of the series!!! This season, according to Olmos...the humans will be conducting terrorist attacks on the Cylons...making their positions as heroes ambiguous. Yes, and that's not all...Olmos challenges anyone to declare that they know who the heroes are...A clear indication, that he believes that the humans are the bad guys!!! BTW...as you know, in the all Cylon society, they, the Cylons, like to walk around nude without shame...just like Adam and Eve. Thus, implying they may have seeded Eden (Earth)with life...a Human/Cylon hybrid perhaps???

  • July 26, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    FluffyUnbound, get your head out of the podcasts LOL

    by Gorrister

    If you get all your info from podcasts, you'll miss a lot. Moore said that in an article I read earlier this year while the second half of Season Two was running. I never once said he said that during a god damned podcast. You see, there are people in this world called "reporters". They vary, but some of them actually "report" news about teh entertainment industry. To do this, they sometimes track down people like Ron Moore and ask him questions about whatever projects they may be working on at the time. In this case, someone asked Ron Moore about Battlestar Galactica and this line of questioning eventually led to the information I posted above. The reporter then takes was Moore says and writes something called an "article". This is a series sentences and paragraphs mixed with some quotes that pass the information on to millions and millions of people across the country...sometimes even across the world. So, turn down the volume on the podcasts and actually READ something sometime.

  • July 26, 2006, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, Cylons really ARE the heroes.

    by Gorrister

    They heroicly attack the colonies without warning or provocation, bravely nuked a dozen planets into near oblivion, refuse to maintain diplomatic relations for 40 years at Armasist Station, kill the diplomat send to said station without cause, perform surgery on people against their wills, enslave women for breeding, ruthlessly chase and hound a small group of survivors who only want to get the hell away from them, invade the humans new planet and, last but not least, bravely snap the necks of horrific babies when their mothers back is turned. Yeah, I can definately see how heroic the Cylons are.

  • July 26, 2006, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Cylons as Heroes

    by NoHubris

    Now IF Olmos said that, he must be referring only to the new guard Cylon Triumvirate of the Season 2 finale and the upcoming Season 3 -- so they, like St. Paul, have had a Damascus road conversion and went from killing their enemies to joining and helping them.

  • July 26, 2006, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Edward James Olmos=Cylons Are The Heroes!!!

    by MetalWater

    Human's are sinners that needed to be punished!!! The Cylons are trying to cleanse the human race in order to save us from ourselves. The Cylons mean no malice toward the human race...they are only attempting to cure the cancer that has infested the human race...Things like hate, anger, selfishness, murder, rape, child molestation, war and other forms of brutality which we inflict upon ourselves, daily!!! That kind of behavior by humans is just plain suicidal...If left to our own devices, humans would destroyed themselves via nuclear war anyway!!! Hence, the Cylons had to changed the equation so that they could harvest, not fully eliminate, as many among the human race as possible in order to help guide us to our ultimate salvation...Earth!!! The Cylons could have wiped us all out period...yet they were kind and loving enough to spare the last survivors of the Colonies so that they might know deliverence through spiritual enlightenment, and finally come to know and embrace...the one true God!!! What Ron Moore is trying to tell us is that, we are the fallen angels...and the Cylons are angels in league with God...Metaphorically speaking!!! Edward James Olmos is in full agreement...The humans are the villians...and the Cylons are the heroes!!!

  • July 26, 2006, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Cylons as angels in league with God?

    by NoHubris

    There is something else going on here. The Cylons can't be in league with God because they are not even in league with each other right now. D'Anna is certainly not on the same page as Sharon and Six. That's why they killed her (e.g. the last copy of her).

  • July 27, 2006, 1:31 a.m. CST

    The Cylons Are Our Friends! That's Ron Moore's Message!

    by MetalWater

    D'Anna has become one of the fallen too!!! The Cylons are our friends who are just trying to save us from ourselves!!! But don't believe me...trust Edward James Olmos!!! Go to comicbookresources.com and read his comments directly from Galactica's Comic Con panel!!! Olmos appears to be strongly implying that humans are evil!!! Read his rant about the Colonist's upcoming terrorist actions against the Cylons during the 3rd season of the show!!!