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SDCC: Quint has seen the raft sequence from the KING KONG EE!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with my report on yesterday's KING KONG EE footage from Universal.

Peter Jackson recorded a video introduction, welcoming us to the Con and telling us that he wishes to make it out here one day, if only to shop on the floor. He presented us with the clip, which ended up being a full sequence from the extended edition and a trailer for the entire EE.

The sequence was the raft sequence. If you remember from the original the crew members build a raft and cross a swamp. In the original they encounter the only carnivorous Brontos in recorded history. In this one, they encounter a fish monster. This sucker is sick. He's about 15 feet long and has a head similar to (forgive my ignorance on fish species) that one that attracts other fish with that little light antenna thingy and the body of an eel. They produced a toy of Kong fighting one of these things, but the finished version in the film is so much cooler, detailed down to the individual scales.

This sucker snakes up underneath the raft, nudging it. We see that great JAWS shot high up over the actors looking down at the raft and the water around it. The actors are looking around for the source of the bump, but we can see the shadow underneath the water and see how huge it is compared to the little floatation. The big sucker ends up capsizing one raft, sending Adrien Brody into the water, the weight of the ammo strapped across his shoulder dragging him down to the swamp floor.

The swamp monster picks off the sailors on the surface. Preston's in the water, holding the camera above the water, calling for help. Denham notices and calls out, obviously alarmed more for the camera than the safety of his assistant. The swamp monster rises up and Denham tommy guns the creature, hitting the water more than the fish. It charges Denham's raft. He continues shooting, eventually hitting the raft, going right down the middle, breaking it in half.

On the bottom of the swamp Brody isn't alone. Above him is the monster and next to him is a crew member just freeing himself of his weight. Brody glances up and sees the monster coming back around. He tries to catch the crew member as he ascends, but misses him. Just before the guy gets to the surface he gets chomped savagely. The swamp monster notices Brody and swims after him. He swims towards camera and manages to make it to the relative safety of some drowned tree limbs. As he gets to it you can see the swamp monster coming up behind him and tries to suck him in, but when he closes his jaws they get caught on the tree limbs and he can't get the guy. There's tons of easy pickings on the surface, so he swims away, letting Brody finally get to the surface and catch a breath.

The majority of the survivors make it to the water's edge. Denham calls for Preston who is slowly getting to land. He pulls up the camera and immediately checks it. It's wet, but it runs. He cranks it, listening to the gears turning. Everything sounds fine. The last sailor walks out of the water and the swamp monster jumps out and pulls him back into the water. Denham filmed it all! "You get a good shot, Denham?"

That's where it ended. The trailer for KONG showed more effects (over 200 more digital shots), 13 minutes of extra footage, more Kong, more bugs, more action and commentary tracks. 3 discs. Coming this fall!


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  • July 22, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Too Long

    by The Dum Guy

    No more monkeys

  • July 22, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    If you dont like it

    by Jason C

    Then dont buy it.

  • July 22, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Oh man

    by Mechasheeva

    I remember them teasing this sequence in the trailer and was disappointed when it didn't happen. With this and a few more extended/additional action scenes this one'll solidify it's spot as my all-time favorite monster mash. Now, Peter, go direct The Hobbit please.

  • July 22, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by myspoonistoobig

    I like the sound of this sequence but seriously, how many goddamn people were on the boat. I swear I saw at least like 20 people get killed on the island in the theatrical cut and this makes it sound like another 10 people bite it.

  • July 22, 2006, 2:51 p.m. CST

    my problem with kong

    by grth2004

    one is that the story is about a huge monkey that falls in love with a woman now maybe its just my mind but i find it slightly weird i mean lets say he didnt die do you think he would of wanted to have sex with her?

  • July 22, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST

    They're making it LONGER?

    by NeotheLessar

    I'm sorry, but "King Kong" was too long to begin with. After a while I just tuned out the monster fights because well...they were LONG! Oh well...whatever floats your boat.

  • July 22, 2006, 2:53 p.m. CST


    by Windfola

  • July 22, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Bad films coming out in "extended editions" seems to be

    by SalvatoreGravano

    ...the latest studio craze. Who will be next in line? Cimino and a forty hour cut of "Heaven's Gate"?

  • July 22, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    are you lot kidding me!?

    by DrRumpledink

    Kong should have been 24 hours long because I could watch that shit all day, man!

  • July 22, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    You and me both, Doc.

    by Zarles

    This sounds great. I like Pete's bad habit of making the most extravagantly long and overly done movies possible. At least this 4-hour-plus monstrosity will hold my attention, which is much more than I can say for at least 7 of the 9 hours that the LOTR movies lasted.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Looks like I will take the Double Dip Blu-Ray Please !!

    by Darth Evil Dead

    I wonder if the EE will come in Blue Ray or HD DvD..As we all know PS3 comes out in Nov, with a Blue Ray player built inside.. And I would sure like to tune up that puppy on a good note with a Kong EE edition all on one disc. Since Blu Ray if duel layered has more then enough space to handle it.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST

    If there's 40 minutes of deleted scenes on this DVD

    by Mechasheeva

    in addition to the 13 minutes actually added back in, will the other 40 be finished, with full special effects and whatnot? Fingers crossed . . . and PJ looks like Bizarro Dominic Monaghan in skinny mode. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    KING KONG: The Even Shittier Version

    by Razorback

    What chucklehead wants a longer version of this movie? I liked it but come on! This is such a boring fuckin' movie. Worst of all, it is boring during the action sequences. If you are going to extend it, add more drama. Less action.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    PJ was..

    by DrRumpledink

    like he is now when he played derick in Bad Taste. Jeeze, it's like nobody has ever gained and lost weight before. What's the big deal? (no pun intended).

  • July 22, 2006, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by alienindisguise

    At least everyone can skip to the new scenes and not have to sit through one of the most bloated films of all time.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Does Jackson's King Kong really need to be longer?

    by fiester

    Seriously. That movie went on forever.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST

    King Kong: The Version You Give to People You Hate

    by Tall_Boy

    Suffer, bitch! This movie NEEDS to be longer!!! Muha-ha-ha-haaa!!

  • July 22, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST


    by Tubbs Tattsyrup

    Yes, PJ is just like he was when he played Derek. Maybe he lost the weight so he could star in a Bad Taste sequel. Or not. We can dream.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST


    by DrRumpledink

    Now that, my tubby friend would be fucking amazing!

  • July 22, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Most embarrassing movie since Phantom Menace

    by PhilConnors

    Wow, what a waste of top notch talent all around.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    King Kong WAS disappointing

    by Rupee88

    It didn't suck, but it was kind of lame...cut out that cabin boy guy and about 20 minutes of preamble and it would have been much stronger...also the dino stampede just didn't work either..and maybe a couple of other things.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST

    King with 32% more Angler Fish!

    by CrayonPie

    I like the first hour but am oddly bored at a majority of the impressive island sequences. I love the crew rowing to shore, which is surprisingly scary. The last act plays like a Kong snuff film, as if we are supposed to enjoy the spectacle of him being killed. I felt dirty and i had to pee very badly. I swear I reenacted that Austin Powers post-cryo scene.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I want to see MORE slavish recreations

    by ckane123

    Mr. Jackson, you've lost me. You had me at the end of Fellowship, but with King you've lost me. Go make a pretentious art flick and/or The Frighteners 2, and call me. After Kong disappointed me so greatly, you're dead to me now. If you come to visit my mother I want to know a day in advance so I won't be here....

  • July 22, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by Shaner Jedi

  • July 22, 2006, 3:43 p.m. CST

    I would love to see a longer version of it!

    by DerLanghaarige

    Seriously, the film reminded me of the time, when "Hollywood" wasn'T an insult! But I won't buy a DVD again, just for 13 more minutes. 30 Minutes minimum!

  • July 22, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST

    The LOTR Dvds Had A Valid Excuse For Having An Extended

    by flamingrunt

    cut. The cinema version couldnt contain everything in the book otherwise it would have put off the average cinema goer. However, with the DVD they could put everything in for the LOTR geeks. But Kongs completely different, and i can only imagine its being released because of the lackluster sales of the 2 disc version. But they really are taking the piss with having to purchase seperately the production diaries, the original 2 discer and now the extended cut. Iknow theres always need for choice but if thats the case then they should explicitly say when and if these things are gonig to be released right at the start.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Hopefully PJ cuts out the fat while he's at it.

    by Veraxus

    I don't mind if he puts back in some of the more noticeably absent sequences - but only if he trims out and cleans up the more sloppy existing ones. The brontosaurus stampede and everything that follows is a particular point of contention... it looks fake, it goes on way too long, and it's far too over-the-top.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    It's been said before, but...

    by Uga

    "King Kong" would have been a very good movie if it had been 45 minutes SHORTER.

  • July 22, 2006, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Digital 3D


    We were promised a longer digital 3D rerelease in theaters- who wouldn't want to have to pee for almost 4 hours with 3D glasses on? 3D IMAX superman was almost a completely different movie than the 2d version- it didn't make the glaring plot holes disappear, but the underwater rescue scene is one of cinema's greatest moments. The edges of the frame are all black in that scene which makes the 3d effect look absolutely holographic- it's like you're drowning with bubbles floating up in your face and need to be rescued by superman. I want kong to step on me in 3D

  • July 22, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST

    PJ transferred all his fat to Kong!

    by CrayonPie

    Now we have a bloated, corpulent monster movie. The movie just might be weird trimmed down, kinda like Oprah.

  • July 22, 2006, 4:53 p.m. CST

    What about the extended cut where Kong says Goodbye for

    by Superneal

    40 minutes! My bad, wrong Peter Jackson flick.

  • July 22, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST

    In Peters attic theres a picture of him getting fatter

    by I Dunno

    ...and a copy of King Kong reducing to a reasonable length.

  • July 22, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Shorter and Longer

    by nexxus7

    The theatrical release was easily 45 minutes too long -- was it really necessary to have 3 T-rexes? Scenes went on forever. Zombie Island was too long. Give up the "Titanic" aspirations for crying out loud. I still think with the right cutting, a solid, entertaining flick is buried in there. But that's what happens when a director gets too much power. Jackson did a lot of brilliant things. He just should have brought in a editor with a really sharp blade to trim down this sucker to maybe 2:10 or so. That movie would have probably done 25%-50% better at the box office. Many people were scared off by the running time, and the so-so reviews. I don't have a problem with them doing a longer version for the fans that want it though. I thought the EE's for LOTR were brilliant. IMO, he should have done a shorter theatrical release and then the EE, and probably everyone would have been happier.

  • July 22, 2006, 4:58 p.m. CST

    That was SOOOO detailed...

    by RobinP

    ..that I don't need to buy the EE to see it. It's in my mind's eye. Thanks Quint. (Just kidding, I'll shell out, I'm a Kong whore. Maybe I'll buy this instead of my fifth version of Star Wars).

  • July 22, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    I've said it before

    by Mechasheeva

    and will continue to: if every movie ever made from this point on had a scene in which a giant gorilla battled 3 T-rexes while juggling a hot chick, I wouldn't mind one bit. This movie rocked my socks so hard that I walked home barefoot from the theatre.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    by DildoBaggins

    Thank God for you geniuses. You're all such experts on filmmaking. What does PJ know? Fucking hack. I have no doubt you should all be behind the camera working your magic rather than where you are now - alone, watching Star Trek and beating off in your parent's basement.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Still Haven't See It Yet

    by DrTobiasFunke

    I'm gonna finally get my 50" Plasma in a couple of months, so I'll have to check this one out. I've been holding off on a lot of DVD releases just to inaugurate the new plasma. Instead of the theatrical version (which I can now skip completely), I'll be getting the EE. Mmmm.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:21 p.m. CST

    King Kong was crap.

    by fortheloveofgod

    Is Peter Jackson still flogging this nonsense? I thought he made it because he loved the original? Why would he care what everybody else thought? (Everybody thought it was shit Pete, btw)

  • July 22, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Wait, they actually cut things?

    by mr.underwater

    Could have fooled me. How did they the decision of what scenes to cut? Since half the movie didn't need to be there, did they only cut the scenes that really, really, really didn't need to be there? Because it seems like a few of those got in too.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    That "parent's basement" shit is played out.

    by I Dunno

    You fuckers are just projecting when you say that shit.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Where is all this hate for PJ coming from?

    by Mechasheeva

    The guy's making the only films I've seen this decade that have truly blown my mind visually (except Sin City), and before LOTR (if that's your problem) The Frighteners and Dead-Alive are both hilarious/twisted movies. And moviemack, I'm almost 100% sure that assholes are outlawed in New Zealand.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:45 p.m. CST


    by fortheloveofgod

    Peter Jacksons movies are good but are easily forgotten...If it wasn't for movie websites keep hyping his second extended dvd shit, he would be finished.

  • July 22, 2006, 5:45 p.m. CST


    by Mechasheeva

    I'm becoming convinced that you hate everything. Except maybe yourself. Just curious, what movies do you consider "good"?

  • July 22, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST


    by MrNelson

    Have a nice life on the wrong side of the track, wankers.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Carl Denham's footage

    by stvnhthr

    The bonus material I would most like to see would be the footage Carl Denham supposedly shot. It would be awesome to see the WETA work run through a filter to render it to look like shakey old black and white grainy film stock.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST

    King Kong...

    by Harysuxafat1

    was like watching the last 40 minutes of Return of the King 5 times. Yeah it was that fucking boring and shitty. PJ is an overhyped mediocre director.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST


    by MrNelson

    I refer to my post I made earlier. Off to the plant monday?

  • July 22, 2006, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Hooray For Extended Editions!!

    by Chris

    Jackson is my father.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST

    "Jacksons movies are good but are easily forgotten."

    by raw_bean

    Didn't that guy do some fantasy trilogy or something? If I could remember their names. Since his movies are so easily forgotten, I'm sure you don't know what films I'm on about.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Did I miss the Jack Warden obit?

    by Manatee

    Since he was one of the most recognized and admired character actors in Hollywood...ever. Just asking.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:25 p.m. CST

    what he should cut

    by Mr Brownstone

    are the "comedic" jump cuts while Watt's is mugging in front of the mirror and dancing for Kong... actually those scenes should go competely.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Miami Beach?

    by DrKodos

    You know, it used to be when you bought a politician, the son-of-a-bitch stayed bought!

  • July 22, 2006, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Straight out of Resident Evil 4

    by Bob of the Shire

    Not really, but that boss battle was so fucking amazing. WAZONGA!

  • July 22, 2006, 6:32 p.m. CST

    but honestly

    by Mr Brownstone

    I don't think cutting 40 minutes would have helped the film... everything that wasn't CGI was so badly written and sloppily directed. Maybe if they cut out nearly all the dialogue and brought in Mark Goldblatt to re-edit it.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for the day...

    by jigsaw

    ...when a director will realize the theatrical cut had too much extraneous subplot material (JimmytheCabinBoy) which in turn slowed down the momentum and narrative thrust of the film, ultimately taxing the audience when it should have been thrilling them. At which point he will have the balls to release the CE. Yes, the Concise Edition. PJ, as long as you're giving yourself KIng Kong: EE, can you please give the rest of us King Kong: CE? And pass it on to Gore Verbinski, Bryan Singer, and pretty much the rest of LaLa land. I would buy POTC 1 and 2 if they were each maybe 20-30 minutes shorter. This is far and away my biggest gripe with Hollywood in general. Where's the accountability? Trim the goddamn fat!

  • July 22, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST

    I'll buy this when...

    by The Funketeer

    they make it shorter. Holy crap that movie was too long. I didn't need all the backstory or the Hearts of Darkness crap. All I needed was a giant monkey fighting a dinosaur.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    I don't mind movie length.

    by rbatty024

    When I go to a movie I don't want to pay ten bucks to see an extended TV show. I want to see something epic. Maybe I'm the only one, but I like the extended length of movies (although I've noticed that I have a longer attention span than some). When a movie is longer you actually get your money's worth. Given that, the only part of King Kong that I thought dragged was the very end on top of the Empire State Building. Maybe it was the fact I've seen it before. Maybe it was because I knew what was going to happen. Or, maybe it was Peter Jackson's habit of showing what looks to be the same fucking shot over and over. Other than that, I thought it was a solid, but not great, film.

  • July 22, 2006, 6:58 p.m. CST

    It's hard to "forgive ignorance" in the Google Age...

    by Flim Springfield

    You obviously have an internet connection. Do a quick search, save yourself from sounding dumb in a review.

  • July 22, 2006, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Jackson's making it LONGER?

    by Orbots Commander

    Why not just go ahead and re-cut it into 'King Kong, The Mini-Series'? I remember the day I saw KK in theaters; I got up walked around the theater lobby, went out with friends, met a nice girl, got married, had 2 kids, bought a home, sent the kids to college, went back to the theater and King Kong was still playing.

  • July 22, 2006, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Wow Orbots

    by Mechasheeva

    You met a girl and had two kids with her that same day? You waste no time!

  • July 22, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST


    by Orbots Commander

    I think somewhere, in some theater, that frickin' movie is still unspooling.

  • July 22, 2006, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Orbots--you have no idea how right you are

    by moondoggy2u

    I never wanted to tell anybody this, but I've been using a hacked wifi signal here in the movie theater and have been patiently waiting for King Kong to end. So far, my family and I have been living off of popcorn and jube jubes and Kong appears to finally entered New York. I have a question, though--is Jimmy going to be in the end? I feel like I've known him all my life.

  • July 22, 2006, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Moondoggy, I just solved the Natalee Holloway mystery!

    by Orbots Commander

    Quick! Somebody go down to Aruba and canvas the movie theaters! I bet you the poor girl is just waiting for King Kong to be over.

  • July 22, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Somebody say NO to Peter Jackson...

    by CRanapia

    Just once. Ok, I know 'King Kong' is (literally) an obsession Jackson's had since childhood, he's an utter FX geek, and good on him. But, as a viewer, I didn't really give a fuck about watching a 90 minute showreel for Weta Digital. Sure, it looked good - though with the amount of money being thrown aroud, it better - but what happened to the idea that FX are there to support a well-made story and performances, not the other way round? And for Mechasheeva's benefit, I don't 'hate' Peter Jackson; I don't even hate his films (IMO, 'Heavenly Creatures' is the best NZ film ever); but I do loathe how self-indulgent and dull KK and LoTR are.

  • July 22, 2006, 8:16 p.m. CST

    well, I wouldnt say that LOTR is self indulgent

    by moondoggy2u

    But I'll grant you, parts of it are, even to the point of defying logic. Denethor throwing himself off the prow, the army of the dead in gondor, the warg attack, the over-long cave troll sequence, and the shucking of the saruman resolution. Still, balanced against the plethora of brilliant scenes and depictions, I think LOTR comes away as one of the best films of all time. Just my opinion though, but I dont think there is such a thing as a perfect movie.

  • July 22, 2006, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Ya know, it just hit me...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...Peter Jackson, whatever his merits as a director, cannot edit for shit. He cuts out Saruman and the Mouth Of Sauron from ROTK so we can get...more of Samwise blubbering every five minutes and VIGGO SINGS! Oh, and we get to meet Sam's family...FUCK THAT WAS GOOOOOD! His need to show us every gross-ass nasty on Skull Island made it increasingly ludicrous (and unintentionally hilarious) that Brody and Co. would put their collective asses on the line for one second more than necessary to rescue a certain trapped beanpole...let alone fuck with a big ape and take him home with them. Get help, man...GLC (George Lucas Syndrome) IS preventable...

  • July 22, 2006, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Sounds great!

    by uberman

    I did not re-watch the DVD of the movie as I have been waiting for the extended release with esspecially the water monster. I wish it had been in the film. But, Im a believer and I will be seeing this one fer sure.

  • July 22, 2006, 8:42 p.m. CST

    I agree with 'Bob of the Shire'

    by Orionsangels

    Resident Evil 4 was da shiznit, better than a movie. because i got to control the actions of the lead character and the reactions of the cult zombies getting shot was da bomb yo!

  • July 22, 2006, 8:43 p.m. CST

    I Have A Suggestion

    by The Ender

    If you dont like long movies, dont watch them. I hope people making these things dont let the bitching message board hounds actually effect any decisions to make sweet Extended Versions of Good movies. Kong, not so great. But certainly far from terrible. Lord Of The Rings Extended Editions? Awesome. Just plain awesome. It's not like they half assed it. And obviously you aren't Lord of The Rings fans if you are complaining about it. So the question is, why the fuck did you watch it then? Go away

  • July 22, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST

    What the heck is wrong with you people?!?

    by Acappellaman

    First off, I thoroughly enjoyed King Kong. While not a perfect movie by any means, it's MUCH better than all the hate that's being spit upon it here. I, for one, love seeing extended editions of movies, *especially* Jackson's. This is a way for Jackson to show everybody all the extra work his crew did for the movie that ended up on the cutting room floor. Sure, there are probably valid reasons for them being cut, but nobody's sucking money out of your wallet to force you to buy it. If you just want the theatrical release, or neither, that's your choice. Lighten up, people! I'll probably buy it.

  • July 22, 2006, 8:45 p.m. CST

    King King was ridiculous

    by Neo Zeed

    A love story between a murderous ape and Naomi Watts. Hollywood took shit waaaay too far.

  • July 22, 2006, 9:04 p.m. CST


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  • July 22, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    youre absolutely right burnhollywood

    by moondoggy2u

    That is Pete's problem--he can't edit. In fellowship of the ring, his best work at clear and concise editing, he still made 2 pretty haphazard mistakes, the first was having the cave troll sequence be 5 times as long as the entire balrog sequence and the second was a completely unintelligable and slapdash attempt at showing gandalf's journey to minis tirith and learning of the ring of power. The way its depicted, nobody knows where the hell he went to and that it only seemed to take a day or two. The two towers, of course, completey ditched the resolution and added uneccessary lost children plotlines. And dont get me started on Return's obvious editing errors, such as mismatched reaction shots, no resolution for the orc commander, scrapping the gandalf/witch-king confrontation, etc. Anywho, its been a long night. goodnight everybody.

  • July 22, 2006, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Thank the gods...

    by darth mortis

    the longest movie in recent history, and ironically the worst movie this long since heaven's gate is getting longer. god knows, it didn't need any pacing or anything...

  • July 22, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Where are moviemack's posts?

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Did he get banned?!

  • July 22, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Banned 101

    by Superneal

    Easiest way to get banned is to refer to a recent "returning" comic book movie adaptation's star and director as homosexuals. That how I got banned

  • July 22, 2006, 9:43 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry, does anyone care?

    by BendersShinyAss

    I haven't bothered reading this talkback yet.

  • July 22, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST


    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Well, if it was that easy, then zfisk should have been banned (again) a long time ago.

  • July 22, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    The obsession with length

    by performingmonkey

    I know you're all insecure about you're penis size and JEALOUS of the length of Kong's schlong (and the fact that he probably got to fuck Naomi Watts in his lair before Adrian Brody came to rescue her), but that doesn't mean you have to cry like a baby if a movie's over 2 hours! No-one can concentrate in the theater anymore. They need to text someone every two minutes or listen to their ipod, otherwise there's a chance they might keel over and die from withdrawal. I still don't get all the hate for Kong. I reckon most of the people here didn't even see the fucking movie because the length scared them, and yet they're still judging something they haven't seen. The fact that it was set in the '30s probably also put people off. This is a problem people have with SR - it has a retro feel a lot of the time. I'm gonna get the 3-disc edition. I held out for it, just like all you stupid idiot fucker should have done. Don't whine like a bitch. You can't have hated it all that much if you fucking already own the 2 fucking disc version. Fuck you. If you want the movie shorter, cut it yourself.

  • July 22, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Moviemack, you got banned

    by moondoggy2u

    because you were trolling. You wouldnt answer direct questions or carry on meaninful report, simply saying that you hated whatever movie we were talking about in any given thread. Typically, you fail to realize this and instead pin the blame on homosexual comments and what not; it couldnt possibly be due to the fact that you trolled with the wrong talkbacker.

  • July 22, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Superneal

    by moondoggy2u

    My comment is based on the assumption that you are moviemack (you seemed to respond Gaius's question). If you arent he, than I humbly appologize. Again, sorry if I'm wrong.

  • July 22, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Oh, I see what you did, Superneal.

    by moondoggy2u

    Yup-I was deffinitely wrong. I appologize for calling you moviemack. I know how much that would piss me off...Gaius, moviemack's new handle is fortheloveofgod.

  • July 22, 2006, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the heads-up moondoggy2u

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I'll keep my eyes open for assholery.

  • July 22, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Wow... Then I cant believe I'm still here

    by The Ender

    After Calling Alexandra Dupont a "constantly on the rag cunt of a reviewer" and then followed it up withtelling her to go back to munching "crab ridden carpets". Eureka! Apprently I was on point!!

  • July 22, 2006, 10:38 p.m. CST

    its called an "anglerfish"

    by vanfan

  • July 22, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Too bad King Kong EE doesn't mean Edited Edition.

    by Lezbo Milk

    The movie was too long, and had sequences that dragged on and on way past the point of being rediculas. That's all there is to it. This is a movie that desperately needs to be no more than 120 minutes long.

  • July 22, 2006, 11:07 p.m. CST

    head in a box

    by moondoggy2u

    Among my favorite movies are Ben Hur, LotR, Gone with the Wind, and Lawrence of Arabia. Don't tell me the reason we think King Kong is too long is due to the strong need for ridlin. Kong's plot was bare bones, requiring nothing longer than 2 hours. All we got were endless chases, fistfights, bad acting, and character arcs that went nowhere. Bad direction, head, not ADD, was the cause for this movie being overly long. There was a ton of fat on them bones and very little meat.

  • July 22, 2006, 11:17 p.m. CST


    by Harysuxafat1

    Feel free to fuckoff and die a bloody horrible death with your official King Kong dildo sticking out of your ass you ignorant wretch.

  • July 22, 2006, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Too long...

    by Harysuxafat1

    this was one of the most boring movies I've ever seen. That stupid scene where she was doing comedy for Kong made me wretch it was so bad.

  • July 22, 2006, 11:20 p.m. CST

    KK was a masterpice!

    by dirtsandwich

  • July 22, 2006, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Moondoggy - Sorry to disappoint but

    by Superneal

    I'm not moviemack. I have hated quite a bit on superman returns, but never really blamed my dissapointment on the fact that Singer is gay...(which sounds like mm) I'd hate on SR if Singer were straight. The movie just let me down. I did mention that Harry over emphasised that Routh had a girlfriend in a phone conversation and I insinuated that he was a homo, like Singer only to get banned

  • July 22, 2006, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Not long enough!

    by dirtsandwich

    I'm looking forward to the extended edition. The Jimmy character should of been cut. To all the dumb fucks out there: It is believable and possible for two different species to fall in love without having sexual feelings. And I don't mean the the stupid (unconditional love we feel for pets) it's up and beyond that. That's what the movie is about. It's well done if you understand it. And not from the point of American Pie or some brain dead action flick.

  • July 22, 2006, 11:42 p.m. CST

    topher turning into venom pic on official site

    by calcifer

  • July 23, 2006, 12:29 a.m. CST


    by Flickerhead

    "I liked it..." "This is such a boring fuckin' movie." What the fuck, Captain Paradox?

  • July 23, 2006, 12:29 a.m. CST

    by dirtsandwich

    People bitch about the price of movie tickets and get movies 90-120 mintues long. And that are totally stupid and cliche. Here PJ gives you a 3:07 hour adventure away from ALL THE FUCKING SHIT in this world for the same price. Fuck yeah! Give me 3 gallons of gas for the price of 2. Give me a 3 hour movie for the same price some moron fuck just paid for "You, Me, and Depree", or "Little Men". Both under 2 hours. Shut the fuck up! God, is it that difficult for you 3rd graders to disconnect from the other staticheads you communicate with for 3 hrs? You get anal raped at the concession stand so why wouldn't you be happy you get a 3 hour movie.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:33 a.m. CST


    by Flickerhead

    "easily forgotten," now that's about the dumbest fucking statement I've seen in a talkback in a long time, and that's fucking saying something. Take a long look in the mirror and do a little re-evaluation, thick one.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:36 a.m. CST

    mr. brownstone

    by Flickerhead

    "sloppily directed"? Keep your dayjob, dumbass. Maybe you didn't like it, but to call it sloppily directed is to announce your cinematic ignorance with a fucking trumpet.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Like it needed to be any longer!

    by Durendal

    Much less with Jackson picking off more unnecessary characters with monsters. Hey Jackson, guess what? IT GOT OLD FAST! By the time we got to the bugs in the canyon, it was fucking BORING. Kong would've been much better if it had lost a good half hour on the cutting room floor.

  • July 23, 2006, 1:20 a.m. CST

    can't wait for DeadAlive:Extended Edition

    by AshesOfDonnie

  • July 23, 2006, 1:46 a.m. CST

    is it on youtube yet?

    by Orionsangels

  • July 23, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    I've thought about this

    by Mechasheeva

    and I think you could look at the Watts/Kong relationship 2 ways: Kong loves Watts in that weird interspecies romantic way (I just saw Clerks II tonight . . . interspecies erotica . . .) OR Kong feels as a parent to a child. In the original Kong there's undoubtedly something sexual about Kong's obsession (he does try to tear her freaking dress off) but here Kong is only the protector, and a very fierce protector. Watts has affection for Kong same as anyone would love their dog or something, but with the added intensity of environmentalism, which is a strong theme in both Jackson's version and the ridiculous Lange 70's one. Basically, I'm wondering if anyone agrees that we could look at Kong's obsession as more of a need for companionship and a need to feel needed than as something romantic/sexual.

  • July 23, 2006, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Before you know it..

    by Harysuxafat1

    he's gonna add a 40 minute curtain call to this already bloated lump of shit where Kong keeps getting in teary eyed tickle fights so that pretentious shitbags can come on here like they know an inside joke and be condescending buckets of monkey spunk. Yeah right, go watch Superman The Remake again dumbfucks.

  • July 23, 2006, 4 a.m. CST

    The credits feature...

    by Orionsangels

    the names of everyone who's ever been on the Internet. It's PJ's way of well, making the film longer

  • July 23, 2006, 4:09 a.m. CST

    The Giant Carnage of "Meh" for Jackson's Kong

    by Ringwearer9

    So sweet to see.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Re; The Ender

    by CRanapia

    Who died and made you my fucking mother? Here's a heads up to all you half-wit fanboys. Peter Jackson already gets all the cock-gobbling, arse-licking action he wants from his wife. And I don't think she's into gang-bangs or sharing her hubby with the fans. I watch plenty of long movies that justify their length, and I've seen plenty of films that made a hundred minutes feel like a century having battery acid squirted up my arse through a high pressure firehose. Sorry if this threatens the PJ groupies around here, but I really didn't think KK was that wonderful a movie - and a big part of the problem was a pretty weak script, and too many self-indulgent, interminable FX sequences that might have all you geeks moisturising your palms, but did zip for me. If that gets you hard, fine. If you want to rush off the store, and cram the extended version into your gaping holes, I'm sure Universal and Jackson will take cash, credit cards or the souls of your first born. I just wonder why he's bothering, as opposed to putting the time and energy into making a film I can get excited about again.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:44 a.m. CST

    I want more!!!

    by Ecto-1

    I loved Kong and think that PJ is a great and inspiring film maker. So there. An extra 13 minutes is great, and that raft scene sounds fantastic. But y'know, I was kind of hoping for and extra half hour in the extended edition. For me, this film will never be too long.

  • July 23, 2006, 5:17 a.m. CST



    I couldn't stand the fact that kong was just a wire doll thingy with like a mink coat for fur. I thought they should have updated that- or maybe a man in a suit would have been better.

  • July 23, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Sad that moviemack was banned. That was a great line.

    by Ringwearer9

    "Jackson is so brilliant he made both King Kong AND Jaws suck". Kudos, moviemack, wherever you are.

  • July 23, 2006, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Re Cranpia

    by The Ender

    "If that gets you hard, fine. If you want to rush off the store, and cram the extended version into your gaping holes".......... You're very passionate with the sexual metaphors. No but seriously, who shoves movies up their ass? I said King Kong's not so great, I.E. I didn't like it that much. If you would need a mother to tell you something as simple as "if you dont like it, dont watch it." ? Mmkay. And also I wasn't talking directly to you, but to the masses of beligerent ass clowns who cant get over the fact that there is nothing to get over. No One is making you watch the movie fucktard. Fanboy? I've seen 4 of his movies, and liked 3 of them. You sound so angry over this it makes me laugh a little. But just a little, and then its over.

  • July 23, 2006, 8:33 a.m. CST

    tom bodet

    by moondoggy2u

    Yeah, you can come back, but your new name just doesnt carry the same recognition as the old one and you're forever branded a troll. So far, everyone that comes back seems to dial down the zaniness at least a notch or two. Even Zfisk isnt quite so rowdy as he was under the homewrecker banner.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    It was already too long to begin with

    by ATARI

    I will only buy an abridged version -- which will never happen.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:39 a.m. CST

    King Kong vs. Godzilla

    by Barbosa

    Oh great they figured out how to make this movie even longer. Can someone tell me why this movie gets so much praise while the Godzilla remake took a drubbing? Let's face it the acting was blah, the FX were ok and the story was tired and i am talking about Kong. Did anyone really feel any peril for the main characters on the isalnd? Everybody knows they make it back to NY so why all the extended chase/fight/escape sequences? Why did it Take Jackson 45 minutes for them just to reach the friggin island? Personally I would have rather seen how they got Kong on the boat, how they made the journy back to NY (at least they addressed that in the 70's version). How about showing how they transported him around NY and prepped him for the show? Any of that would be more interesting than an hour of fighting dinasaurs & bugs when we already knew who survived. At least with Godzilla they took a chance and tried to do something new with it (It didn't work on many levels but they tried), with Kong they just took something we already had polished it up and sold it back to us.

  • July 23, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Anyone know where I can get cheap CR-R's?

    by Dolmes


  • July 23, 2006, 10:43 a.m. CST


    by Razorback

    If it is paradoxical to say that I liked a movie but also found the action sequences boring... then paradox away. It is exactly how I felt about the movie.

  • July 23, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Extended Edition

    by Evil Chicken

    The reason why I didn

  • July 23, 2006, 10:57 a.m. CST

    You didn't see Aliens for 1hour!

    by dirtsandwich

    In Aliens it took 1 hour before you saw any action. Cut the Bronto, Jimmy, bug sequence, the Skull Island typing, trim the screening room with Jack (can't act) Black. Not as many close ups on his fat fucking face. There, now the movie is a bit shorter for the left out shit.

  • July 23, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Their relationship!

    by dirtsandwich

    It's not unconditional love between these two. Kong/Ann sounds corny, and it is. But it's possible. And it works well on screen if you look at it right. Kong is lonely. He's the last of his kind. He found something that fills a void in his life. He now has a purpose. The whole dancing/entertaining for Kong is to survive from him, distract him. Then she yells at him, he gets pissed but gains respect for her. In return he protects her and she gains respect and more for him. But not sexually, you giggling elementary fucks! She doesn't care for him like a pet. That's fucking retarded. This is an honest, intense true feeling. Far and above all that. Remember the line "She falls in love but doesn't trust it" In the cafe? That's the love for Brody. Kong is on a higher level without all the baggage we have in our relationships with each other. SHE CAN TRUST IT! The movie lays it out quite simply. The movie is so well done. Their relationship when and after they reunite is well paced. Look at what condition she was in on stage. She was crying without him. As well as him feeling lost. Then the ice. Then to top it off the tapping on the chest "Beautiful" scene on the ESB/sunrise. She ultimately realizes the depth of their relationship and it intensifies even more. People try and label their relationship to their familar understandings. You can't compare it to anything. It's about extraordinary circumstances between two species. Duh! Put it this way. It's quite obivious that they broken through and have forgotten about being two different species. Maybe next time, watch it without the childish mind-set you suffer from. There is a Ann singing to Kong sequence cut? I believe it's "When your smiling".

  • July 23, 2006, 11:59 a.m. CST


    by tango fett

  • July 23, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by tango fett

  • July 23, 2006, 12:15 p.m. CST


    by Mechasheeva

    Any movie that racks up 200 mil + in the box office isn't exactly regarded as a bomb. Just so you know.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:43 p.m. CST

    A movie that COST 207 million to make IS a bomb

    by Snuffles

    If it only makes back 200 million domestically, Sure, after it had played WORLD WIDE it made 540 or so, but that's pretty bad for worldwide, for a film that expensive. Domestically, it was a bomb.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST

    best thing about getting extra footage...

    by NNNOOO!!! that there might be just enough material to compile a 100-minute shot-for-shot remake of the original, which is all we needed.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    KK:EE = More money to shell out

    by BlackBeltJones

    King Kong was a decent movie. It was poorly paced and overly long just for the sake of being long. The effects were really good and I got into most of the movie. Until Kong on Ice started. That was the end of the movie for me. It just killed me. Take that scene out and I can live with the movie along with the whole chef guy and his buddy being cut out.

  • July 23, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Bob And Orion

    by proper

    The best bit of that battle for me was when you kill the fish and everything is fine for 2 seconds then its CUT THE ROPE CUT THE ROPEEEEEEEEEE.......Awesome,I went back to that game this year,played it round 3 times,now it can go into storage. for those who may be interested.King Kong= Looks alright for a film I've seen twice in different versions,I'll watch that on Sky at Xmas and give it a go then.

  • July 23, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Extended Edition?

    by judderman

    I'm sure this has already been said, but the movie was already 45 minutes too long.

  • July 23, 2006, 1:28 p.m. CST

    jackson films are like miniseries


    The best way to enjoy his films are at home sipping wine and watching them in like 1-2 hour doses at a time. Alternating between the kong game on 360.

  • July 23, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    i thought that WAS the extended edition?!

    by JacksonsPole

    well, he can extend that sucker for as long as he wants, but if he wants people to watch it, he needs to cut out adrien brody and that EXTREMELY corny, homoerotic love story between the "philosophical" first mate and the idiotic cabin boy. man, that was shitty. but, the kong stuff was awesome. especially that bronto run. killer.

  • July 23, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    There's always a bigger fish...

    by StarWarsRedux

    I'm still not interested in seeing this again. See, if it were even longer-- say, if Jackson went berzerk and decided to add another hour to the film, then I'd be curious to see how it all worked out. This movie was either way too long or way too short, and it couldn't decide which. 90 minutes or 4 1/2 hours were the ideal lengths for this film, I imagine. At its current length it doesn't satisfy in terms of an economy of scenes, images and feelings-- brevity as the soul of wit-- or in terms of gargantuan, larger-than-life epic filmmaking-- the Langian "Monumental" school of movies. Honestly, I don't see how a measly thirteen minute's worth of padding is going to improve a movie that didn't work too well to begin with.

  • July 23, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Re: The Ender

    by CRanapia

    Ender - Well, sorry, I saw King Kong because I gave my ten-year old nephew the choice and he went for 'King Kong'. Sorry about that. Like many of the talkbackers I don't have a problem with 'long movies' - I have a very big problem with long ones that don't work. Now, I was addressing the retards who think not hailing KK as a work of genuis is 'PJ hating' or a symptom of ADDH. Balls - the closest I've come to the man is thirty seconds of small talk at a party, not enough time to form a personal opinion either way. Creatively, I really love 'Heavenly Creatures' and 'Braindead' - and think Jackson's an enormously talented film-maker who's gone down a creative dead end with the LOTR trilogy and Kong. Call me old school, but I still believe FX are there to support story and performances, NOT the other way round. Next time, perhaps PJ can take a leaf out of Ridley Scott's book - he went back to Blade Runner and started dumping the shit that just didn't work for the director's cut. And made a better, if still flawed, film out of it. There's a watchable, coherent movie buried in the Weta showreel that is King Kong, and I'd like to see it one day.

  • July 23, 2006, 3:02 p.m. CST

    So dirtsandwich, what you're saying is......

    by Neo Zeed

    Peter Jackson was describing a transcendent love, that exists on a higher plane that no human (except for Tim Treadwell from Grizzily Man) can fully relate to. Thanks for the heads up.

  • July 23, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I See Cranapia

    by The Ender

    You actually were forced to watch King Kong. Therefore making my argument that no one is forcing you to watch it, completely irrelevant. Touche'. In the future put your foot down with that kid, and throw him into the Kiss Kiss Bang Bang showing. A movie America punished for being really good.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:03 p.m. CST

    the thing i hate the most about all of this

    by slappy jones

    is the way jackson personally goes door to door to all of our homes and forces us to but the thing at gunpoint.... it quite simple people..if you dont like it..DON'T FUCKING BUY IT...stop your fucking bitching and moaning....the thing is as soon as I saw the title of this article i guessed what this messageboard would be filled're all so fucking is the same names saying the same shit that you all said in as tollbotth willie might I have already that you unoriginal bastards....

  • July 23, 2006, 4:17 p.m. CST

    I hope...

    by Darth Thoth

    the longer running time makes it flow smoother and the movie actually seem shorter when watching. I know that sometimes extended cuts can have that effect. It's weird. Just look at the LOTR extended cuts for example. I enjoyed PJ's Kong but like Singer's Superman, I thought both movies were good to very good but not great. A little over indulgent and too long in running time. But again, I enjoyed both movies very much. Both PJ and Singer are two of my favorite directors working today.

  • July 23, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    edit with the remote


    I find some movies are better with strategic use of the remote. Kong is better with no jimmy- Menace is better with no jar jar- Cinderella man is fantastic when you skip over that squaukin zellweger

  • July 23, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST

    LOL, Orbots Commander and moondoggy2u

    by beamish13

  • July 23, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Slappy Jones...

    by CRanapia

    And if you just knew you were going to hate this talkback, why did you bother getting this far, you maroon... But your wish is granted, I don't waste my $ on DVDs of films I didn't like in the cinema. Elsewhere.... you're right Darth Thoth. You've voiced exactly how I feel about 'Superman Returns' - it wasn't exactly a Golden Razzie-worthy waste of time shat out by a no-talent hack, but it should have been better than "meh, it was OK". I just hope Singer's going to be tighten things up a lot, and make sure the same care and attention effort goes into the script as was obviously expended on the luscious FX and production design. (Really, if you're describing a film as "my first chick flick", you've got to make the central relationship work on the page - you can hardly dis Routh and Bosworth for doing the best they could with what they got. And to be fair, it's really hard to get Lois Lane's character right. Too far one way, and she's a shrill, ball-breaking bitch you can't imagine ever having a second date let along winning the heart of steel. Too far the other, and she's flat out pathetic.)

  • July 23, 2006, 6:13 p.m. CST

    sorry, got sidetracked...

    by tango fett


  • July 23, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Cum on guys...

    by Womb2dooM

    I don't have an opinion I just really think you people who want that movie longer would enjoy ejaculating on other men. BTW this post assumes no female visits this website. That's right. I went there. I know no limits. I'm equally comfortable making sexists jokes as homophobic jokes..... Fags.

  • July 23, 2006, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Depressing fare

    by thedarkhalf

    Peter Jackson pulled out all the stops visually on this movie, but in the end it became a 'titanic' mess with 'Jack and Rose' at the top of the Empire State. PJ's downfall with Kong is trying to remake a movie that has that inevitable 'ending' and every good movie has to have some sort of payoff at the finale. Not so for King Kong as I don't think anyone felt happy watching Naomi Watts hook up with that clown from 'The Village'. Thanks, PJ, but I'm gonna pass on the extended editon.

  • July 23, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    slappy jones and co...

    by Womb2dooM

    Um, this is called a "Talk Back" so just cool your guns, mister. This is a place where "shut up" does not have a home. By all means shout down those with "predictable" opinions (who would have thought that we would still have the same opinion as December. But SOOO much has changed in that time) but don't presume to tell them that their opinion is not warranted, hack. BTW what about the posters whom expressed a great love of the movie and wanted it longer? Was not their vocal opinion also inevitable? I wish eternal arse bleeding cnacer upon you and yours, sir. ... Too far? Let me know.

  • July 23, 2006, 7:49 p.m. CST

    "Kudos, moviemack, wherever you are."

    by Orionsangels

    LMAO!!! That made me laugh like crazy, Ring. As if AICN killed him. He's in a better place now. outside and getting some sunshine, lol.

  • July 23, 2006, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Even Harry's love for this crap

    by Damer1

    Couldn't keep it from tanking.

  • July 23, 2006, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Transcendent Love?

    by dirtsandwich

    I'm just saying, the movie to me was depicting their feelings for another as not easily labelable by our normal standards. People are trying to say it's pet love or how could it be love if they can't have sex. Stupid shit. I and many others have only felt the love for a partner, family members and pets. All three are different in their own ways. This movie is depicting another type of love. Under extraordinary circumstances. That's what movies and fantasy is all about. It's funny as fuck when people put down the possibility of Kong/Ann having feelings but they never question or say squat about a giant ape or Skull Island being real.

  • July 23, 2006, 8:40 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see a 1 hr 45 min slimmed down cut than a EE

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    This movie was way too long and bloated to begin with. Trim a good third of it out and you'd probably have a decent flick. Instead we're heading for a 200+ minute long version. It wasn't the airplanes that got him, it was hubris that killed the beast.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST


    by Womb2dooM

    Lady in the Water isn't really a small movie ($90 million budget) but I see your point. Kong made enough money for PJ to warrant a thousand editions and that sucks. But don't knock the action sequences in that movie. Thanks to them my head didn't implode during those HORRIBLE character exchanges and relationship "development" scenes. I just sat rocking in my chair chanting "the v-rexs are coming. the v-rexs are coming. the v-rexs are coming..."

  • July 23, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Two hours too long...

    by workshed

    ...let's face it - all Jamie Bell's scene could have been cut along with any number of bullshit sub-plots/bad effects (hey, 'Bronto stampede' - i'm looking in your direction - they just looked like they were running on treadmills). Having watched Jurassic Park on tv the other night (for the first time since Kong's release) I have to say that it's much better to mix the cgi with live action background and Spielberg got the balance perfect.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:23 p.m. CST

    I agree with the America part....but

    by dirtsandwich

    not about the M.Night being believable shit. Your going to leave it up to an arrogant film dude to tell us how an alien race would scribble in our corn fields (because they'll get lost if they don't)and land on a waterball of a planet as their way of invading. They can get here from way the fuck out but don't know basic coordinance to navigate around the planet. "Alien 1 you land where you see this crop symbol. Alien 2 you land where you see this crop symbol." I can't think of a more insulting movie. Just think when the broadcast signal of Signs makes to a planet where an alien race can watch it, called: The Hu-Man Show and vote it the funniest, most stupid comedy ever.Good job M. Night for making the human race the laughing stock of the Universe.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST

    workshed... YES!

    by Womb2dooM

    Thank you. Awesome comparison. The Beard knows how to work CG convincingly into a scene! At no stage during that movie do I ever think to myself "That's CG! That looks okay.". You can see that by watching Joe Johnsons third movie after His two. The CG isn't bad but there's something in their movement and skin textures and their combination with Winton's animatronics that take you out of it. Peter needs a slap in the face with a walking intestine.

  • July 23, 2006, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Signs is 106 minutes to long

    by dirtsandwich

    And The Village is 108 minutes to long.

  • July 23, 2006, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Jurassic Park is a terrible movie.

    by slappy jones

    The effects are great sure but that is all it has going for it.....the film is awful.

  • July 23, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    JP is all icing

    by dirtsandwich

    Without the dinos, it does blow! I did like Goldblum's character.

  • July 23, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    I like Jackson's special effects

    by Mechasheeva

    not because I think they look real, most of the time they really don't. They look fantastical, like moving paintings, and I love that about them. I'm in the "I love this movie" camp here because I was able to buy into the characters in that Kong-free first hour, and because I think that movie has some of the greatest action scenes in a long, long time (come on, a giant monkey fighting 3 dinosaurs while juggling a hot chick?). Sure, it was overkill, but it JOYOUS overkill, and that made it work for me. Big smile on my face the whole time. And I don't need uber-realistic effects to further my enjoyment of a fantasy movie, beautiful effects will do just fine. And that's what Kong had in spades (although they do like they're on treadmills in the bronto scene sometimes . . .).

  • July 23, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    I would enjoy 12 minutes of Jimmy the Cabin

    by cookylamoo

    being devoured by a giant caterpiller leaving behind only a blood spattered copy of Heart of Darkness.

  • July 24, 2006, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Yeah I was just thinking....

    by Tal111

    that movie sucks, I wish it was longer! How sad is it then that Peter Jackson didn't direct Battlefield Earth?! Personally I'm waiting for King Kong the Jesus-Fucking-Christ Edition -14 hours of ape.

  • July 24, 2006, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Snakes in the motherfuckin' swamp!

    by Max Rockatansky

  • July 24, 2006, 6:11 a.m. CST

    in the third empire movie miscellany

    by emeraldboy

    there are about 40 dinosaurs or weta creates that didnt make into the final cut of the movie. Tartarusaurus,limasaur, perceradon, aciedactylus, Nefundunusaurus, ligocristus, Calcarisaurus, Termito'saurus Lycaesaurus,pirnahadon, malamagnus, inox, Udusaur, Turturcassis, sepulcro, papilo, needlemouth, Killer-eel,ambulaquasaurus,Avarusaurus, scimitodon, carver, pugiodorus, hebesaaurus,adlapusaurus,Dinocanisaurus, Diplosaurus, Asperdorsus, sylvaceratops, monstrutalpus, atercurisaurus, bear croc, chaly tops, arsartis,bidensaurus, gladiodon, malvolsaurus, Draco.

  • July 24, 2006, 6:17 a.m. CST

    with all the so called "love" for Peter Jackson

    by emeraldboy

    I was wondering should I mention the three EEs of the lord of the Rings. That is not a joke by the way. PJ is working on these as we speak.

  • July 24, 2006, 7:25 a.m. CST

    emeraldboy - WTF?

    by CRanapia

    Do you mean extended extended editions? Damn, I'm probably going to get flamed as a hater but this is a serious question: Doesn't the law of diminishing returns kick in somewhere? I sprung for a 4 disc edition of 'Gone With The Wind' (one of my absolute favourite movies) - the transfer was gorgeous, and the two discs of extras were fascinating, but... I have the horrible suspicion I laid out a lot of coin for stuff I'll watch once a year, if that.

  • July 24, 2006, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Jackson is the new Lucas!

    by brycemonkey

    Double Dipping Mother Fucker! I love me some PJ but you have to know what set you want and hold out for it, tough it out man.

  • July 24, 2006, 8:04 a.m. CST

    King Kong - The Intervention Edition

    by Sean38

    There's a good two hour movie somewhere in that overindulgent mess that was King Kong. But making it LONGER? Jesus. Augment the movie's one glaring flaw. Yeah, that'll work.

  • July 24, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Start DVD where they bump into the island

    by Trazadone

    That's the best way to watch Kong. You can skip the first 45 minutes of tedium and get to the movie we want to see right away. The first 45 minutes should've been presented to us via Star Wars scroll.

  • July 24, 2006, 11:03 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    QUOTE "JP is all icing, it does blow!." Jesus H Christ, that's the whole fucking point of that movie, it's a romp, it's supposed to be fluff and fun and DINOSAURS. Everyone in this pit hates every fucking movie ever made, so why watch movies when you can go have hate sex with your right hand and choke yourself with the left? And for the record, Kong is too long as it is. Someone needs to tranq-dart Jackson and make him cut the theatrical version down to 2 hours, starting with that fucking retarded Bronto stampede. The most embarrassingly stupid scene since Ferris Bueller outran 250 baby Godzillas....

  • July 24, 2006, 11:34 a.m. CST

    This was posted on empires website on 22 june 06

    by emeraldboy

    More Lord Of The Rings DVDs? While we knew this was coming

  • July 24, 2006, 11:47 a.m. CST

    in an interview with jamie bell in the observer last

    by emeraldboy

    year. Stated that the cabin boy role was created for him by jacskon, phillipa boyens and fran walsh. finally read Sean Astin horrid book There and hack again. awful stuff. He and mnight would make a great team. the could both moan on endlessly about why hollywood doesnt appreciate their talents. There was one point in the book where i thought jackson was going to beat astin over the head with a film can. Astin actually tells the director how to shoot a scene. You should all see if you can the the french and saunders sketch about the making of titanic. Ade edmonson as james cameron(maceroon as they call him) is one of the funniest i have ever seen.

  • July 24, 2006, 1:57 p.m. CST

    It's not that it was too long . . .

    by Movietool

    It's that what was there wasn't good enough to justify it. Luckily, no one can force me to buy a DVD, so I can avoid the EE just like I avoided the regular release. No problem.

  • July 24, 2006, 3:44 p.m. CST

    I thought the Watts/Kong relationship was the

    by DoctorWho?

    best thing about the movie. Watts nailed it and her interaction with Kong brought me to tears a couple of times.That wordless communication, is when cinema really excells. Add that nice theme behind them and it works. It's those moments that left an indelible impression on me.

  • July 24, 2006, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Kong compared to Lady in the Water?

    by minderbinder

    Are you nuts? Kong is a good movie that could have been great with some tweaks, Lady seems to be a movie that is horrible and likely unfixable with any number of tweaks. And as much as people hate to admit it, Kong made a profit and was one of the bigger movies of last year. Sure, Kong is a bit long, but there's a ton of great stuff in there. I'd argue that the entire new york end sequence is just about perfect. The extended version only adds 13 minutes, I wonder if some of the changes are swapping scenes with different versions or even cutting things out? Even though it probably longer than necessary, I still would love to see the stuff that didn't make it in.

  • July 24, 2006, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Well said DoctorWho and minderbinder!

    by dirtsandwich

    The relationship was the core of the film. I watched it two days ago and the length of it didn't even enter my mind. But some un-nessesary characters and scenes did. Remove the scenes that are not moving the story forward and replace them with shit that does that may have been cut.

  • July 24, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    FYI - long movie haters!

    by dirtsandwich

    PJ showed Universal a 2:30 version. It was the studio that told him to put it back in. So fuck off to all of you who said it's PJ fault in the editing department. I agree that the whole NY ending is perfect. It's really cool to watch the film and then have it only get better in the last act of the film. Instead of konking out like most films.

  • July 25, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST


    by Frgl_Rockatansky

    Peter Jackson's KING KONG.... now even LONGER!!! Because that's EXACTLY what this film needs. Yeesh.

  • July 25, 2006, 8:30 a.m. CST

    More Kong

    by Barbosa

    Who wants more scenes of the humans? How about added scenes of Kong? How about added scenes of Kong flinging poo? How about added scenes of Kong flinging poo in 3D?

  • July 26, 2006, 4:24 a.m. CST

    by pauljames33

    Why watch movies anymore?! Most of you talkback retards just cant stop bitching about movies or how long they are or how you could do a better job.So why watch movies? Why post here? I love movies!