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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

It’s been a weird 2006 for me so far. I’ve seen far fewer films than I’m used to in the theater, but I’ve been visiting a lot of sets and editing rooms, more than ever before. It seems like all I’ve been doing lately is traveling, something which starts to suck when you’ve got a baby in the house. Anytime I’m away overnight, it’s upsetting, even if I have seen some great stuff and met some great people.

Over the next two weeks or so, I’ve got seven different set visits or editing bay trips that I’ll be posting. It’s taken forever just to transcribe all this stuff, but the end result is a pretty fun cacophony of people and places. You’ll meet some rising stars and some old pros, you’ll get sneak peeks at epics, comedies, fantasy and horror alike, and you’ll see the cutting edge and absolute old school alike. There are some old friends on some of these sets and some people who I was pleased to meet.

I’m not doing this in chronological order, though. I’m going to mix it up a bit, hoping to get certain pieces up before ComicCon and then building through report after report to something very near and dear to my heart. This particular article begins just as I was returning from Vancouver, where I was working on my second episode of MASTERS OF HORROR. It was a two-week trip, so when I got back, there was a substantial pile of mail waiting for me. DVDs, scripts, screening invitations... it was overwhelming. Mrs. Moriarty had put everything into one giant stack for me, and when I finally got a chance to sift through it all, she had one of our neighbors over, the two of them chatting while her baby, nearly the same age as Toshi, played on the floor with him.

One envelope in particular seemed oddly lumpy, although small, about the size of a postcard. Mrs. Moriarty saw me holding it. “Oh, yeah,” she said. “That one’s interesting.” She and our neighbor both watched as I opened the envelope to remove a card. Before I could read it, something else fell out into my lap.

A pregnancy test. Positive.

”Who is Shauna?” my wife asked, watching me carefully.

Our neighbor stood up. “Maybe I should go.”

I opened the card to read the following:

”Hey, Drew!

I’m pregnant! And it’s yours!

Come and see us. We miss you.

Shauna Robertson

PS – Me, too. Miss you, that is. I’m not pregnant with your baby. Yet.

Judd Apatow”

When I read their names, I started laughing, and I was able to explain the joke to my wife before she grabbed a knife out of the kitchen and turned our neighbor into a material witness to a homicide. I explained that Shauna was the producer of ANCHORMAN, ELF, and 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN, all three of which I’ve gone to visit while shooting, and that Judd was the director of 40YOV. When the IMDb backed up my story, she finally relaxed. I explained to her that their new film deals with pregnancy, and that this was a very unorthodox invitation to the set. Nothing more.

A week and a half later, I drove over to the Arclight parking structure. I’m there a few times a week at least, since my gym is upstairs and Amoeba Records, one of my favorite places in LA, is right next door. Even though I’ve driven that block of Ivar hundreds of times, I’d never noticed the steakhouse tucked into the middle of the block before.

Walking into the outdoor courtyard, I was greeted by Tyler Fowler, the Universal publicist I’ve dealt with a few times in the past. He led me into the restaurant where the entire place was packed with extras, like it would be on any regular night. At a table in the middle of the restaurant, cameras were all trained on four people seated together: Leslie Mann (CABLE GUY, BIG DADDY), Paul Rudd (ANCHORMAN, 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN), Katherine Heigl (ROSWELL, THE RINGER), and the star of the film... Seth Rogen.

Even as recently as three years ago, that sentence would have been unthinkable. Even now, even after seeing the footage I’ve seen, I’m still amazed that Universal is really cool enough to release a movie where Seth Rogen is the star. Don’t get me wrong... I think it’s a great thing. Seth’s one of those comic performers who showed up fully formed in his first big role on FREAKS & GEEKS. He was still a teenager at the time, but he’d already figured out his own unique comic personality. He refined the persona on his next series UNDECLARED (which was not-so-coincidentally created by Judd Apatow), and then showed up to great effect in 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN last year. In the about-to-be-released YOU, ME & DUPREE (which I can’t review because it’s produced by my managers), Seth’s easily the best part of the film playing a married friend who is so henpecked that you can practically see the marks his wife left on him. He’s hilarious in every scene, and his panic is so convincing that even though you never see her in the movie, you know exactly who he’s married to. His scenes alone make it worthwhile to check the film out. As with Steve Carell when he did VIRGIN, Rogen’s finally making the jump from scene-stealer to the guy the whole movie’s about, and it was interesting getting a chance to watch him work.

In the scene I watched them shooting, Ben (Rogen) and Allison (Heigl) are out to dinner with her sister Debbie (Mann) and Debbie’s husband Pete (Rudd). Allison lives with Debbie and Pete, and in a lot of ways, they serve as the role models for Ben and Allison to follow as they struggle to decide what their relationship is. See, they’re not a couple. Not really. At the start of the film, they meet in a very funny but very believable sequence, and they end up sharing a one-night stand. The next morning, as the two of them talk over breakfast, it’s obvious that they have nothing in common, and so they go their separate ways. No harm, no foul. Everything just goes back to the way it was.

Until a few months later when Allison calls Ben and asks him to go out to get drinks. He thinks he’s getting a second chance at bat, but instead, she tells him that she’s pregnant, and that it’s his. He does what any man would do in the situation. He falls apart. And that collapse is the source of much of the comedy in the film. He tries to do the right thing. He and Allison decide to try dating a bit, to give a relationship a chance for the sake of the child she’s carrying. And it’s during this dating period that the scene they were shooting takes place.

As I walk up to the monitors, Shauna sees me and waves me over. A quick hug, then she hands me headphones so I can hear Seth, who’s already in the middle of the scene and talking to everyone at the table. “Okay, sure, I’ll admit it. When, uh...” - he gestures at Heigl’s stomach, where she’s just starting to show – “you know, there was a moment. Where it’s just... I’m in the white Bronco, AC Cowlings is sitting next to me, and I’m just, you know, going for it. Going for Canada. Not looking back. We’re just going for it, man! But... you know... it was, like, just a flash. Just a thought. Like... what if Doc Brown pulled up in the DeLorean, right, and he’s all ‘Get in, and we’ll go back in time and... you know... put a rubber on your dick!’ But we’ve all thought that... right?”

Heigl’s stare is one of absolute irritation. Ben must drive her insane, because she looks like she wants to kill him. “No, actually. I’ve never thought that.”

Leslie Mann glares at Paul Rudd, who’s busy studying his drink. MANN: “Have you done that? Have you had a flash?”

RUDD: If I had a time machine... I’d sign the White Stripes.

MANN: Okay. Fine. At least your priorities are in order.

ROGEN: Jack. White. Rules.

MANN: I have an idea. Why don’t you two get in your little time machine and go back in time and fuck each other?

RUDD: ... who needs a time machine?

That breaks Rogen up, and the women just stare at both of them, disgusted. Rudd and Rogen start riffing off each other, boozy and way too loud, and it’s great. It all feels like a real fight. They’re not playing “jokes,” but are instead really tearing into one another. The women finally leave, and the two guys comisserate, drinking more as they talk. The conversation meanders.

ROGEN: She hates my sense of humor. What is that? I mean... literally... that’s all I’ve got. If she hates that, then what the fuck could she possibly like?

Apatow yells a few things to see what they’ll do, what direction the conversation will go. “Do the fat thing.” As Rogen talks about how Heigl’s putting the weight on, Rudd talks about how little weight Mann added, and how it actually scared him.

RUDD: I wasn’t sure it was even getting any nutrients. She just looked like she’d had a big meal.

Between takes, Shauna started talking about all the films she’s producing, all the films she’s part of in one way or another, and it was a little imposing. She’s got a pretty damn golden track record so far, and she seems to be working with all of her favorite people over and over. As I’ve seen on all the other sets I’ve seen her on, she serves as a great audience for the filmmakers. She loves the films she’s making, and she’s got a really acute sense of what’s funny. I think the filmmakers know that if they’re making her laugh, they’re doing it right. What more would you want from a comedy producer?

She told me about the couple that Rudd and Mann are playing. “They look like the perfect yuppie couple. That’s why Ben and Allison look up to them. They have the perfect house. The perfect jobs. The perfect kids. And they are... miserable. They are like the worst example ever and they scare the shit out of Ben.”

She told me that we would be watching dailies later, and that it was mainly stuff from the day before when they were shooting a scene where Rogen and Rudd are in a car, going to Vegas.

”Yeah, that’s the scene where they take mushrooms so they can go see Cirque Du Soleil.” And she described to me the ensuing mushroom trips that Rudd and Rogen go on. Absolutely hilarious, and considering the access they had to actually shoot at a Cirque show in Vegas, it should be one of the strangest scenes in a film next year. There is not nearly enough mushroom humor in movies, damn it, but thanks to Judd Apatow, things are changing. Describing it, she couldn’t keep it together, laughing about the entire sequence.

I watched several other takes of the same conversation, and each time, Rogen would hit the same points, talking about having a flash, but the details would change each time. There was actually a little more at the start of the scene. Heigl’s character in the film works for E! Entertainment, an on-air interviewer, which explains some of Rogen’s digs in the scene. They’re talking about how she’ll handle the pregnancy with her bosses at work.

HEIGL: I’m just not going to tell them. They can’t fire me over it, either. That’s illegal. And once I’ve had the baby, I get three months maternity leave.

MANN: I think it’s a good plan.

ROGEN: Flawless. Until her water breaks all over the guy from MY NAME IS EARL.

RUDD: Isn’t it weird, though, how you get pregnant and all of the plans you made for your life just... go... completely out the window?

MANN: Oh, your plans have not changed at all. You do everything exactly the same.

ROGEN: I know what you mean, man. When I found out, I just... I had this flash... like it was me in a white Ford Bronco with AC Cowlings at the wheel, and we were hauling ass for Canada, man. We weren’t looking back.

HEIGL: Oh. Nice.

ROGEN: I don’t mean it. I just mean, like... if Doc Brown pulled up in his time machine...

HEIGL: Who’s Doc Brown?

ROGEN: He’s the guy from BACK TO THE FUTURE.

He waits. She has no reaction at all. He looks at Rudd, looking for help.

ROGEN: You see what I’m dealing with here? Honestly?

RUDD: Okay, but seriously, if you had a time machine...

ROGEN: If a guy in a time machine pulls up and says, “Okay, man, you can do anything. You can go anywhere and change anything you want,” you wouldn’t say “Okay, well, then, let’s go back to that night and put a condom on his dick”? You haven’t... you haven’t thought that?

HEIGL: No. I haven’t thought about it. And I’m sort of surprised... I mean, that’s weird. That was your first instinct? To run?

ROGEN: Ummm... yeah! I mean, I wasn’t going to do it, but I was, like...

HEIGL: What stopped you?

ROGEN: The... ummm... knowledge that to do that would have been a bad thing to do.

HEIGL: And are you thinking about it now?

By this point, Rudd’s signaling for Rogen to shut up, trying to get his attention, but Rogen’s not seeing him. He just keeps making it worse.

ROGEN: Ummm...

HEIGL: Do you think about taking off now?

ROGEN: I... think about the fact that... I once had thought of it... but I don’t... currently... ummmmm... (exasperated) I just said I had a flash!

HEIGL: And what is a flash?

ROGEN: Oh, come on, everyone has flashes.

MANN: (to Rudd) Do you? Do you have flashes?

RUDD: About what?

MANN: About a time machine?

RUDD: The only flash I’ve ever had about a time machine is wishing I could go back in time and sign the White Stripes.

MANN: So you have had a flash.

RUDD: Ummmm...

ROGEN: Of course he had a flash.

RUDD: I’m sure all guys do it.

MANN: All guys dream of going back in a time machine?

RUDD: No. No. Not a time machine. It, uh... it wasn’t that specific. But more like, “What if I didn’t do this?”

MANN: Do this? You mean have kids?

RUDD: Sure. Get married. Have kids.

MANN: You wish you didn’t get married?

RUDD: ... no...

MANN: You just said you wish you didn’t get married.

RUDD: No. I just had a flash where I wondered, you know, what if this had been my path? It’s not like I did. And I don’t dwell on it. I don’t even... it’s not what I want.

MANN: You just said that. You just said that’s what you wanted. You wished that. You said so.

No matter what Rudd said, Mann just nailed him. She made everything a personal insult. It was maddening to watch because of how very, very good she is at it. I found it doubly disturbing because Apatow (who happens to be married to Mann in real life) was laughing every single time she did it, having to work to keep from ruinging takes with his laughter. And Rudd just squirmed like a bug on a pin in take after take, letting her terrorize him a bit.

Between takes, Rudd and Rogen would come back to video village, while Heigl and Mann would head outside for some sun or some fresh air. Universal publicity brought over some preliminary poster designs for the film, everyone still pleased as punch over the Key Art win for 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN, and I get the feeling Universal’s going to do everything they can to give KNOCKED UP ever possible advantage. They’re holding it until the end of summer 2007 so that they can have it ready for the same weekend that 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN opened, right at the start of August.

During a change in set-ups, Shauna and Judd took me over to where Judd’s trailer was parked, and Judd started pulling out DVDs with various dailies from earlier in the shoot, stuff that’s already been cut into rough assembly form. Some of it is looking pretty sharp considering how long Judd’s got to work on it. The entire opening of the film was assembled, the night where Heigl and Rogen meet in the first place. My favorite scene I saw comes from later in the pregnancy, when Heigl’s feeling horny and talks Rogen into trying some pregnant sex. It’s a classic ballet of the uncomfortable, and I give Heigl credit... she gives as good as she gets in her scenes with Rogen. They’re very funny together, with pretty strong chemistry.

Back on the set, Eric Alan Edwards had everything set up for the next shot. He’s a big mainstream studio guy now, but he started with films like MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO and KIDS, and he’s a pretty nimble photographer, able to move quickly, something I gather is important to Apatow. After all, he used Eastwood’s DP, Jack Green, on his last film. Keeping things moving seems to be his main priority, keeping people on their toes. We talked about his tendency to shoot as many as seven or eight long versions of each scene, riddled with improvs along the way.

”The guys from Universal DVD showed me something, and I think we’re actually going to use it on this film,” he told me. “It’s called the Randomizer. Basically, you’ll be able to watch the feature the way it was in the theater, or you’ll be able to watch it with the Randomizer on. If you do, there are about 180 places in the film where there are as many as ten takes available. The Randomizer will know when you get to each of those 180 moments, and each time, it will pull a random take and insert it. You’ll get a totally different film each time.” I’m not sure if that really will work, or if that really will be on the DVD, but if it is, that sounds like one of the most fun ways to rewatch a film I can imagine.

After a few more takes, they broke for lunch, and Shauna invited me to join them for dailies from the day before. There were two sequences they shot, and we saw quite a bit of footage from each. In the first sequence, Paul Rudd and Leslie Mann are trying to get some sleep, and their kids are making it difficult. The children are being played by Apatow’s real-life kids, so for them, they’re just playing a scene with their real Mommy, and since they know Rudd so well, they’re comfortable with him, able to play off of him. The littlest of Apatow’s daughters keeps calling him “Brian Fantana” between takes. Basically, his five year old has free reign in the scene to try and wake everyone else up, and she takes full advantage of it. There were also several takes of a scene set the next morning, after the sun is up. Again, Apatow kept everything loose, and the footage gave him a lot of choices, a lot of options.

The second sequence was greenscreen stuff of Rudd “driving” his convertible with Rogen seated next to him, the two of them on their way to Vegas, no matter what their women think about it. You can tell that they’ve both just had big fights, and they’re both determined to “prove something.” I must have seen a half-hour of footage of this stuff alone. Rogen tries a freestyle rap in each of the takes, and his attempts keep setting Rudd off on some truly bizarre riffs. Midway through the footage, a flurry of “You know how I know you’re gay?” jokes break out, and Rudd and Rogen can’t help but fire off some great burns at each other. I think the most self-aware of the jokes came from Rudd. “You know how I know you’re gay? Because we’re recycling jokes from another movie.”

They weren’t, of course. They were just warming up, just bouncing off each other to get ready for a couple of really great takes of them talking about Cirque and taking some mushrooms and Vegas and responsibility. No matter how outrageous the moment in this film, Apatow seems to be constantly dragging his characters back into focusing on some really identifiable, human stuff. This film isn’t a silly comedy... it means it. There’s material here that cuts really close to the bone, and then there’s stuff that’s just meant to make you smile. I really love the stuff I saw from early in the film where Rogen’s hanging out with all his buddies, and the actors who show up as his friends include Jason Segel and Martin Starr from FREAKS & GEEKS and Jay Baruchel from UNDECLARED. It feels like real friends hanging out in their scenes together, and not like some forced thing that’s just for a movie. Martin Starr’s character decides to grow a beard for a whole year, and everyone else busts his balls ferociously as a result. They make Cat Stevens jokes. They ask him how Vietnam is going. They make sure that they don’t miss a beat, knowing full well that if he can’t take it, they win the bet. That’s just sort of a running thing in the background of the film, that sort of comfortable familiar humor.

After lunch, I had a chance to talk with Rudd a bit about how much he just enjoyed doing theater in New York with Julia Roberts, and we talked about our children, both of us still pretty new parents overall. We talked about how much we hated leaving them at home, and it was obvious Rudd missed his baby something fierce. I wanted to stay to watch more shooting, but I had to get moving so I could make a screening later in the evening. I watched Seth run though his part of the scene one more time, and I laughed. You can tell, watching him work, that Seth still doesn't get it. He's a movie star, and he doesn't even realize it. I said goodbye to Shauna and to Judd and left, my virtue intact, decidedly non-pregnant. Can’t wait to see how this one cuts together, but in the meantime, I’ve got some reviews to write and some sleep to get, so for now...

"Moriarty" out.

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  • July 14, 2006, 7:05 a.m. CST

    The Randomizer

    by topaz4206

    This idea would be even better if you could make your own 'cut' of the film by selecting your 180 takes manually. Then it would identify that sequence with a unique number, that you could share on the net so others could play that same sequence.

  • July 14, 2006, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Can't wait.

    by Brendon

    Should be good. Anne Hathaway's loss is the world's gain.

  • July 14, 2006, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Bad writing...

    by Darth Bono Jr.

    This story reads like a junior college creative writing project. More brevity, less ego.

  • July 14, 2006, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Jason Segel, Martin Starr, Jay Baruchel and Seth Rogen?

    by Shigeru

    Um I just pooped myself. Long live Freaks & Geeks and Undeclared!

  • July 14, 2006, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Freegin' Awesome

    by savagexp

    Nice write up, Mori. Looks great.

  • July 14, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Is it just me...

    by ldm882

    ...or are Rogen, Rudd, etc. becoming like a rival Frat Pack?

  • July 14, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I am so goddamned there for this one...

    by Roguewriter

    During its initial run, my wife leaned over and looked at me and said "Seth Rogen will be a star." I actually laughed, then said, "You'd sleep with him!" To which she replied, "And he wouldn't even HAVE to become a star for that." The guy deserves this monster opportunity, and Apatow becomes more and more my hero for nurturing his young stars, keeping them working and making them shine. MAN, what a great bunch of folks! And Rogen gets to mack on Katy Heigl?!?!?! HA! The wife won't be drooling alone when this one hits theaters!! Go, Seth!!!!!

  • July 14, 2006, 9:32 a.m. CST

    hey, fuck those guys, Busy Philips needs work too!

    by crayotic

  • July 14, 2006, 10:01 a.m. CST

    randomizer, similarity

    by maxatlas19

    There's a similar option in the Mike Figgis film Time Code, on the DVD. For those of you who haven't seen it, the entire movie is set in four panels and are all in one continuous shot throughout the entire movie. The stories weave in and out between each other, with character's bumping into each other from different panels. During the movie your basically hearing the audio track from one of the four panels on screen, while the rest of the stories are still going on. On the DVD you have the option of choosing which audio track to listen to, and at what time. So basically you have to option of watching a completely different movie each time, all at your own discretion. VERY COOL

  • July 14, 2006, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Seth Rogen will make you his bitch!

    by Uncle Stan

  • July 14, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    "And then you FUCK the plant!"

    by Nordling

    Rogen desrves stardom, if for nothing else than the FREAKS episode where he goes out with the almost-hermaphrodite. What could have been mined for mean comedy instead turns into something genuinely moving and touching.

  • July 14, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST


    by Engineer_at_peac

    Is it just me or does this describe every role of Katherine Heigl, ever?

  • July 14, 2006, 10:35 a.m. CST

    I mean that as no insult to Heigl, by the way

    by Engineer_at_peac

    She just always, always seems to be cast as the beautiful, but bitchy character with no sense of humor and an icy cold stare.

  • July 14, 2006, 11:05 a.m. CST

    wish I could be an extra in these films

    by Sir Loin

    Gotta be a fun time just hanging around the set with those guys in all of these films they're doing.

  • July 14, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Is it just me...

    by Darkman

    or does this sound a good deal like "Nine Months"? Nothing against the production team, but, seriously, I can't be the only one.

  • July 14, 2006, 12:08 p.m. CST

    apatow is god....

    by Kevin

    2007 is shaping up to be one helluva year for films. new spidey, hot fuzz, knocked up...bring on 2007. about time rogen becomes a leading man and teaming up with other underappreciated apatow alumni, fucking genius. great set report, mori!

  • July 14, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    End The Suffering

    by Crash Crator

  • July 14, 2006, 12:49 p.m. CST

    I Said It In Another Talkback...

    by Sean38

    ...and I'll say it in this one Seth Rogen is a comedy god. He's the ONLY reason I'd consider renting You, Me & Dupree on DVD (I still won't see it in theaters) and as amazing as Steve Carrel is, he was the best part of The 40 Year Old Virgin. Can't wait to see him star.

  • July 14, 2006, 12:50 p.m. CST

    So far Apatow has done no wrong

    by Lando Griffin

    and I think its great that Rogens getting his own movie. Is it Rudds turn next? He is certainly deserving, great since Clueless). The great thing with the guys from past Apatow projects is that they are consistenly good. Theres got to be cameos in this though right? Also, I love Heigl but still can't help but imagine what Hathaway would've been like in the role.

  • July 14, 2006, 2:25 p.m. CST

    I touched a guys balls once in Hebrew camp.

    by Regenhund

    Can someone tell me how you pronounce Apatow? It's kind of distracting for me to read the name without hearing it in my head. Anybody else like that? ----- Nice article Moriarty. Sounds like you had a lot of fun. I'm embarrassed to admit that I just saw 40YOV for the first time the other night. I loved it- funny as all hell. It was like watching American Pie but funny and with a soul. Easily the best comdy I've seen in a couple years. ------ I like the 10th anniversary poster, but someone missed a grand opportunity- Harry should have been Dorothy, and Massawyrm could have been the tinman.

  • July 14, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Seth Rogen's voice

    by fiester

    Is identical to the voice of Curb Your Enthusiasm's Jeff Garlin.

  • July 14, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST

    At the risk of offending Rogen fans...

    by GiggityGoo

    ...I just thought he was okay in 40 Year Old Virgin. None of the friends really set me off. Rudd is overrated too... he was so wooden in "Friends".

  • July 14, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    At the risk of offending fans...

    by Ribbons

    ...improv is overrated. I can't for the life of me figure out what's funny about pointless, meandering scenes in movies like 'Wedding Crashers' and '40-Year-Old Virgin' that were clearly unscripted, and I really wish that they'd do more to clean the dialogue up than just give general directions from off-camera.

  • July 14, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST


    by OhDaesu

    I love this guy, he's getting more involved in producing and writing. He's damn good at everything he does and he's fucking funny as hell in Undeclared and Freaks and Geeks. More power to the guy, I can't wait to see this.

  • July 14, 2006, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Charlize Theron with tits!

    by nemesisdarkside

    OMG!! Hahahahahaha! Amen brother. Heigl is a hottie! It should be (Izzy) Stevens' Anatomy! Screw Grey! The main reason I watched Roswell!....This is the stupidest thing I posted thus far!

  • July 14, 2006, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Like Charlize Theron ....

    by Lando Griffin

    but hot!

  • July 14, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    I think they've done some funny stuff, but...

    by SK909

    I don't think they're anywhere near the level of like Trading Places, Caddyshack, Stripes, or National Lampoon's Vacation. A lot of humor in those movies was based on totally unabashed honesty on race and/or class. These guys are way too afraid to go that far. A lot of their humor, if not all of it could never really be considered potentially offensive, except in a sexual way. It's all sex, farts, archetypes (Taledega Nights - hick race car drivers) and fucked up situations where they racket up the tension according to a formula the same way Hitchcock did it with suspense. Except they do it to make a scene funnier. I guess there can be a science to comedy in that respect, but to me, in Trading Places when Don Ameche says, "Do you really think I'd let a nigger run this institution?" and they cut to the look on Eddie Murpy's face - now THAT'S funny. Or the look on Eugene Levy's face when Clark Griswald pulls into the lot at the beginning of Vacation. That gets me every time. It's those moments that you just never get tired of revisiting and they're always funny, especially when it's like 2am and you come across them on tv. Someone else said it on here - with the new crop, it's all this hyped up frat house humor and the characters are never memorable, at least to me, as like Bill Murray in Caddyshack or Rick Moranis in Ghostbusters. Maybe I'm must old school and can't get with the new shit cause I'm imagining it better than it was... nostalgia... but I really just don't think these guys and their films are up there with those great comedies of the late 70's and 80's.

  • July 15, 2006, 1:01 a.m. CST

    "You can fuck her...

    by hktelemacher

    ... and then she'll send you a check for $12 on your birthday." Still cracks me up. After Freaks, Undeclared, Ali G and 40 Yr Old Virgin -- Rogen's earned a shot. Let's hope Apatow can improve on the improv. Dig it.

  • July 15, 2006, 1:08 a.m. CST

    "Who needs a time machine" better be in the movie.

    by Lenny Nero

    Hardest I've laughed in a while.

  • July 15, 2006, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Thanks, TomBodet

    by Ribbons

    At least one person agrees with me. I feel slightly less crazy now.

  • July 16, 2006, 12:39 a.m. CST

    who bumped this on the main aicn page?

    by digital8

  • July 16, 2006, 3:04 a.m. CST

    rogen is 24...he's not frat pack

    by the_pissboy1

    And he was a writer for the Ali G show. How many of you were writing for an HBO show in your early 20s?

  • July 16, 2006, 6:40 a.m. CST


    by Mr Brownstone

    too bad Time Code is unwatchable.

  • July 16, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Two People From Freaks & Geeks Are In This

    by The Ender

    That's all I needed to sell me a ticket!

  • July 17, 2006, 10:32 a.m. CST


    by Turd Furgusen

    I watched him in 40YOV and thought he was the best part of every scene. I kept thinking, "Man, this guy keeps stilling the scene." He was going up against some of the best scene stealers out there. I thought he should have a much larger roll in his next flick. Very cool that he is in the main role in this one. Watch out Rudd and Carell. I'll watch it, especially if Heigl is in it. I totally missed watching her film her indy movie in my hometown a couple of years ago. I envy Mori's chance to get "up close and personal". Ahem.

  • July 17, 2006, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Shaping up to be a winner..

    by Marnamin

    You can already tell that this movie is going to be hilarious. I don't know what it is about 40YOV, but that movie gets funnier every single time I watch it. And Rogen does indeed steal every scene he's in. Can't wait for this one already

  • Nov. 3, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST


    by Quin the Eskimo