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Only Two-Thirds of A Season For THE OC 4.X??

I am – Hercules!!

Are we coming up on the last Chrismukkah for college-bound funnybook fiend Seth Cohen?

Thursday morning’s Variety reports that Fox has ordered only 16 episodes of “The OC’s” fourth season. This marks a major shift for the series, which aired 27 episodes in its first season, 24 in its second and 25 in its third.

Combine the undersized order with the fact that the show is now up against not only CBS’ “CSI” but the newly relocated ABC megahit “Grey’s Anatomy” on Thursday night, and one might speculate that Fox is feeling out an exit strategy.

Read all of Variety’s story here.

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  • June 29, 2006, 12:51 a.m. CST


    by MattCG

  • June 29, 2006, 12:51 a.m. CST

    That was surprisingly unsatisfying.

    by MattCG

    Really it was.

  • June 29, 2006, 12:54 a.m. CST

    FOX must have noticed how much season 3 sucked

    by Demosthenes2

    and how much of a problem it is that the kids are supposedly off to college, and how much Caitlin sucks.

  • June 29, 2006, 1:06 a.m. CST

    The way to heal the OC

    by Heisenberg85

    Simple, continue the trend started by the 3rd season finale, and kill all of the kids. Maybe spare Seth. And then have it focus almost entirely on the adults. That would make for one hell of a better show than season 3 (the only redeeming bit of which was Taylor).

  • June 29, 2006, 1:08 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed Season 3

    by LeckoManiac

    As a whole...season 3 was better than Season 2. Although, season 2 had some great individual episodes...the season as a whole suffered a lot. 4 seasons is about right...they need to wrap things up with a solid 4th season and let it die with a bit of its credibility intact.

  • June 29, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I have never watched this show nor do I plan to.

    by Led Gopher

    That being said, when will we see some sneak peeks at new fall shoes. I saw a promo for NBC&#39;s "Heroes" and I can&#39;t help but think it looked like the show is about people with special abilities. Are there any shows coming soon this new season that have your attention piqued Herc? Also, did I use the right spelling and use of "piqued"? Good God, I am tired. True story.

  • June 29, 2006, 2:17 a.m. CST

    4 seasons = 88 episodes typically

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    If you count that the average network TV series gets 22 episodes per season, then the O.C. will have a total of 92 episodes after its 4th season. Thus, it comes out slightly ahead of other shows that survive four seasons.

  • June 29, 2006, 4:38 a.m. CST

    This might not be a bad idea...

    by Ridge

    A lot of shows now opt for a lot less episodes in favor of more quality. Deadwood and The Shield are excellent examples. Both have what, 13 roughly per season. This forces the writers to keep the plodding bullshit out and the plots tight and fast and effective. This can work for the OC as well, theres the groundwork laid, we know the characters, lets see them get into some non-Marissa involved heavy shit now that shes gone thank christ.

  • June 29, 2006, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Maybe Fox just noticed that the OC sucks

    by Swarmy

    Along with every other drama centered around spoiled rich kids living near the ocean and aimed at 12 year old girls.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:01 a.m. CST

    This show was a One Season Wonder.

    by Angry Mean Panda

    I watched the first season. It was oddly entertaining. After that, it went to hell and hasn&#39;t looked back.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Two-thirds is still too much.

    by mrfan

    It really is.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Exit strategy is about as perfect a term for this...

    by paulh

    Or greasing the skids for its departure. Which will show that Mischa Barton got out while the getting was good.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:38 a.m. CST


    by Nairb The Movie

    I would feel a way to exit if I was them. Last season was abysmal.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Emmy drama actor final 15 now set, pretty much...

    by paulh

    For actor: Hank Azaria, Huff; Michael Chiklis, The Shield; Patrick Dempsey, Grey&#39;s Anatomy; Matthew Fox, Lost; James Gandolfini, The Sopranos; Michael Hall & Peter Krause, 6 Feet Under, Anthony LaPaglia, Without a Trace; Hugh Laurie, House; Denis Leary, Rescue Me; Bill Paxton, Big Love; Martin Sheen, The West Wing; James Spader, Boston Legal; Kiefer Sutherland, 24 and Treat Williams, Everwood.................Actress list next post.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Emmy drama actress final 15 here. Or all HBO all the

    by paulh

    time...Patricia Arquette, Medium; Kristen Bell, Veronica Mars; Frances Conroy, 6 Feet Under, Geena Davis, Commander-in-Chief; Edie Falco, The Sopranos; Jennifer Garner, Alias; Gennifer Goodwin, Jeanne Tripplehorn and Chloe Sevigny, Big Love; Mariska Hargitay, Law & Order: SVU; Allison Janney, West Wing; Evangeline Lilly, Lost; Ellen Pompeo, Grey&#39;s Anatomy; Kyra Sedgwick, The Closer and Polly Walker, Rome. What, is Randall Jeffs in charge of these new Emmy panels for all the misguided love for Big Love?? :|

  • June 29, 2006, 7:18 a.m. CST


    by Athanatos

    Although I more or less enjoyed the first 2 seasons of The O.C., season 3 was more or less a crap fest. If season 4 continues along the same lines as season 3, then in my opinion 16 episodes is too many.

  • June 29, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    what I don&#39;t understand though

    by Demosthenes2

    is why FOX would want to pull a kamikaze on a show that, despite going not just downhill but jumping off a cliff, the kiddies still seem to worship and that still seems to pull in an above-average crowd. If this move reflects the show having jumped the shark creatively, does the network that gave us The Littlest Groom actually care about the quality and not the numbers of its programming?

  • June 29, 2006, 9:10 a.m. CST

    How to fix the OC

    by Frankenblogger

    Marissa Cooper turns out to be a CYLON and comes back to f with everyone. Ryan and Seth go gay for each other and Summer decides to become a porn star. In fact, so does Taylor. Oliver shows up at some point and farts a lot. Caleb Nichol comes back from the dead and eats Julie Cooper-Nichol&#39;s brain.

  • June 29, 2006, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Thats about right considering its only 1/3rd as good

    by modlight

    as it was at the beginning. It was great, but when ryan&#39;s brother got shot by his girlfriend and they all decided that instead of going and seeing him at the hospital... they went sailing. Eff it, let it die.

  • June 29, 2006, 11:21 a.m. CST

    This is what happens...

    by DanielKurland

    When you have a show that is so successful, the creator who wrote a good deal of season one episodes can stop writing, and put the show on autopilot, and just assume the good ratings will continue to come in. Now yes, he will be more involved next season, but the damage is done. Also, paulh, fantastic posts, I know Kristen Bell won&#39;t win, but a nomination would be amazing. And if Six Feet Under ever deserved acting nominations, it&#39;s for this finale, Lauren Ambrose better get one, along with Krause and Hall. How Hall didn&#39;t get one for his kidnapping episode is beyond me...

  • June 29, 2006, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Arrested Development Season 3 Extras...

    by DanielKurland

    Off topic I know, but I figured people would be interested, and it is somewhat of a thread for FOX....19 Deleted/Extended Scenes, Blooper Reel, Behind the Scene Featurette, and Commentaries on "Forget Me Now", "Mr. F" and "Development Arrested" by most of the cast AND Hurwitz. Now, it is nice to see that Hurwitz is doing commentaries and hasn&#39;t completely given up, but more than three commentaries would have been nice, and the choosing of "Mr. F" and "Forget Me Now" seems pretty random. "Forget Me Now" was funny, sure, but you&#39;d think the premiere, "Making a Stand", and "SOBs" (purely for the fact that this was the episode made directly after they learned they were cancelled) would have garnered much more conversation, which is what a commentary should do. Oh well, I guess it&#39;s nice the set got any extras at all, as the show is cancelled...

  • June 29, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    by foreignerbelt

    yeah this show is dead. the beauty of the OC was they could always pull themselves out of a bad plotline in 1 or 2 episodes. they just could never do it this last season. I have stopped watching altogether. which on the plus side makes me slightly less gay. p.s. what the fuck happened to mischa barton&#39;s hips they are just bizarre looking now.

  • June 29, 2006, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Dan, this is what happens when the Emmys sell their

    by paulh

    souls to HBO. Anyone out there gonna sit there with a straight face and say Big Love&#39;s 3 women are better, acting ability-wise than BSG&#39;s 4 (McDonnell, Helfer, Park and Sackhoff)? Think if there wasn&#39;t all that circlejerking for HBO that Jennifer Garner wouldn&#39;t have 2 Emmys for her first 2 years of Alias? Or that Buffy wouldn&#39;t have a barrel full of them? Keep checking out (which is where I got the semifinalists from; the LA Times runs that one).

  • June 29, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Emmy and Peabody in harmony, with 1 exception...

    by paulh

    The Peabody awards that went to dramas and miniseries earlier this year were BSG, Boston Legal, House, The Shield, Bleak House and Viva Blackpool. The latter 2 are shoo-ins for best miniseries noms, we already know BL and House made the top 10 drama panel. It is entirely possible that every one of these will get at least 1 major emmy nomination in series or acting (since the Shield didn&#39;t make the series top 10, look for Chiklis or Anderson to score an acting nod)...except one. The only shot Galactica has is the shot that every single sci-fi show has - in the technical categories only. It was shut out in the acting races altogether, that much I know. If that&#39;s not genre bias to the millionth power by the Emmys, I&#39;m not sure what the fook is.

  • June 29, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    FOX is now run by the man who greated FOX NEWS

    by MGTHEDJ

    Roger Ailes is now the man in charge of all of FOX broadcasting. He has the final say in how many episodes are ordered. He is also a full-fledged Neo-Con and is a major player in the GOP. He was the one who canned "Arrested Development", "Stacked" and several other shows on FOX broadcasting. I just hope "Jabba" is so busy messing with FOX broadcating and firing people at Fox News that he ignores FX. If he messes with "The Shield" or "Rescue Me" he&#39;ll pay.-----later-----m

  • June 29, 2006, 2:50 p.m. CST

    FOX is now run by the man who created FOX NEWS

    by MGTHEDJ

    Roger Ailes is now the man in charge of all of FOX broadcasting. He has the final say in how many episodes are ordered. He is also a full-fledged Neo-Con and is a major player in the GOP. He was the one who canned "Arrested Development", "Stacked" and several other shows on FOX broadcasting. I just hope "Jabba" is so busy messing with FOX broadcating and firing people at Fox News that he ignores FX. If he messes with "The Shield" or "Rescue Me" he&#39;ll pay.-----later-----m

  • June 29, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST

    the OC ain&#39;t finished:

    by newc0253

    but, with the 16 episode deal, it kinda feels like it&#39;s being handed its hat. season 3 had episodes every bit as funny as the first but i struggle to see how it can retain focus with (i) marisa dead and (ii) the other 3 off to college. marisa&#39;s little sister is bangable but her + the adults aren&#39;t enough to carry the newport beach side of things.

  • June 29, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    How To Fix The OC Pt2

    by dancinggopher01

    Take the Summer girl and the Taylor girl and have them nude the entire episode.

  • June 29, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Now that I think about it...

    by DanielKurland

    Bell pretty much has no chance. As obviously, Falco, Garner, Conroy, Janney, and Arquette are ALWAYS up, and if one of them isn&#39;t, one of the one&#39;s from Big Love, or Davis, would probably get the spot. A shame.

  • June 29, 2006, 5 p.m. CST

    16 is pretty stupid...

    by SleazyG.

    ...when they only need eight more to hit the much-coveted 100th episode so they can syndicate the show to one of the cable networks that are always starving for content.

  • June 29, 2006, 5:28 p.m. CST

    But Janney didn&#39;t do crap this year. Not even in her

    by paulh

    submission, Institutional Memory, the WW&#39;s penultimate episode. Arquette defies all reasonable forms of logic, although one theory was suggested on the night of her emmy win last year. David Arquette said that if his sister didn&#39;t win, then he&#39;d make another movie, a la Eight Legged Freaks. Obviously, that threat was taken seriously enough to tip the scales to that B-list movie star slumming on a TV show. ;)

  • June 29, 2006, 5:29 p.m. CST

    A poster in the LA Times emmy chat said that, actually.

    by paulh

  • June 29, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Ridge: Cable vs. Network

    by Incomplete Gamer

    Hey Ridge, you do realize that the Shield and Deadwood are both on cable channels ... and cable channels have ALWAYS had shorter seasons. It&#39;s not a trend of shows having shorter seasons for quality sake.

  • June 29, 2006, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Sure, I know Janney didn&#39;t do much, and Arquette...

    by DanielKurland

    is over-rated, but they&#39;ll still probably get nominations. Garner maybe deserved them in season one and two, but not anymore. Anyways, even if they didn&#39;t get nominated (and with West Wing and Alias both ending this year, I&#39;d say they even have better shots...) some other "safe placeholder" nomination will. That&#39;s what I meant.

  • June 29, 2006, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Confirmed episode submissions (only 9 so far out of 30)

    by paulh

    Thanks once again to LA Times&#39; The (actor, episode title, show in that order); Hank Azaria (A Cornfield Grows in L.A., Huff); Jason Bateman (Notapusy, AD); Michael Chiklis (Of Mice and Lem, The Shield); Lauren Graham (Partings, Gilmore Girls - good choice); Mariska Hargitay (911, Law & Order SVU); Lisa Kudrow (Valerie Does Another Classic Leno, The Comeback); Denis Leary (Justice, Rescue Me); Mary-Louise Parker (The Punishment Light, Weeds) and Kyra Sedgwick (Fantasy Date, The Closer).

  • June 29, 2006, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ Herc, I know it&#39;s summer, but...

    by Shermdawg

    Coaxial is moving at a snails pace compared to the rest of the site. Theres gotta be some stuff to report about. Since things are slow, how about a regular Rescue Me talkback, or some other summer shows? Hell, might I suggest a WWE talkback? I guarantee ya that will get tons of posts, and Saturday Night&#39;s Main Event returns to NBC in a few weeks so that would be the perfect time. We&#39;ve got a quarter-assed Video game column on AICN, why not a half-assed wrestling one?

  • June 29, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Pride FC or K-1 (or K-1 Heros) before WWE!

    by paulh

    Even though Pride is on the ropes in Japan, TV-wise because of their unfortunate involvement with the Yakuza :o

  • June 29, 2006, 10:23 p.m. CST

    And proof how fast this the rest of the site is moving:

    by Shermdawg

    Teh Spidey 3 trailer talkback was up for barely 2 days. 2 FUCKING DAYS!!! Jeez. Y&#39;all need to reorganize the main page. Harry leaves too much of his old stuff up, and it pushes other things, especially this week, off the radar too quickly.

  • July 2, 2006, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Roger Ailes

    by PurityOfEssence Besides resembeling Jabba, he looks kinda like a bald Larry Flint.

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