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Massawyrm Believes A Man Can Fly As He Soars With SUPERMAN RETURNS!!
Hola all. Massawyrm here.
The 90’s were a rough time for geeks. It was an era of dreams – dreams of the movies that might be, that could be, but never were. How long did we dream of Star Wars Prequels, or The Lord of the Rings, or the Spider-Man film caught in an endless web of legal red tape. The studios hinted at the X-men on film, Freddy Vs. Jason, Aliens Vs. Predator. But nothing ever seemed to come to fruition. Time and again we were offered geek films that never lived up to the hype. Godzilla. Spawn. The psudo-sequel to Blade Runner, Soldier. And all turned out to be crap – mindless drivel that preyed upon our geek sensibilities and became words we now spit as swears.
But at the turn of the century that all changed. Our dreams started to slowly leak into reality. Sometimes the result was hailed as a classic, sometimes it divided the geek communities into separate and warring camps, and sometimes, just sometimes, the result was complete crap. And yet, we continued to dream. Dreaming, after all, is what we geeks do best.
One endlessly dreamed of project was the ever-nonexistent Superman reboot. How many different variations on this project have we drooled over, argued and ultimately dreamed about since it was announced as In Production in the mid-90’s? The Tim Burton/Nick Cage version? The Kevin Smith penned version? Leading into the new millennium with a McG version, a Michael bay version, a JJ Abrams penned version. Hell, for a while we almost had a World’s Finest movie meant to reboot both Superman and Batman at the same time. But then, out of nowhere, Bryan Singer jumped aboard the Superman train and it sped off into production. Finally, Superman was going to be a reality again. The question was, would Singer take two films to get everything fine tuned like he did on X-Men, or had the two comic films under his belt taught him everything he needed to know to make a perfect Superman movie? Could this actually be any good?
Yes. Hell yes. Hell fucking yes. The movie is insanely good – dare I even say great. I don’t believe I am slipping into the realm of hyperbole when I say that Superman Returns is the Lord of the Rings of superhero films – in both scope and emotion of the story. Singer wasn’t simply content with making the prettiest Superman film ever made – he had to make the most tear jerking, heart-rending superhero film we’ve seen to date. Right from the credits this film grabs geeks by the balls and begins to squeeze. The credits. The fucking credits.
The theatre goes dark, the WB logo plays, followed by the Legendary Film logo…then the screen goes dark once more. Marlon Brando begins to speak. John Williams’ familiar Superman March blares out of the speakers and all of a sudden, the familiar blue outlined credits float toward the audience then streaks straight at you. Then and only then does it really hit you. You’re about to watch a SUPERMAN movie. Not some dressed up retread of the Superman story – A FUCKING SUPERMAN MOVIE! All of a sudden I was eight years old again. The excitement rose in my gut and 22 years had been shaved off of my life. And that feeling never went away. Not for two and a half hours.
This film plays to every geek sensibility you have, equally striking chords of the comics (with shots that emulate some of the all time great covers and panels) and the films it is attempting to follow in the footsteps of. When Superman flies, it isn’t some lame ass wirework or the old school front angle flying shot. It’s graceful, it’s beauty in motion. He flies exactly the way we’ve always dreamed he could – the way every comic panel we’ve ever seen has tried to show us. Yes, it needs to be said. You will believe a man can fly. Again.
But while the special effects in this film are simply astounding (and really, they better be for the price Warner’s paid to get it right) you won’t walk out talking about the explosions or the fights or cities being torn apart. You’ll be talking about the heart. Because this movie, above all, is a love story. In fact, it’s two love stories. The first is the classic story of the Clark/Lois/Superman love triangle – with the added twist of new complications. And it is about our (and Bryan Singer’s) love of Superman, the icon, the hero, the man we all wish deep down inside we could be (except for those few sick bastards out there that wish you were Atomo.)
Singer gets Superman right. Every aspect. There isn’t a single moment here that would make a single Superman fan wince. On the contrary, there are scenes that will bring tears to your eyes – not because they are emotionally manipulative moments at which you are supposed to cry, but because you are actually seeing the first truly amazing Superman rescue of your adult life. It sounds hokey, it sounds corny, but god damned if I didn’t look around and see some bleary eyed little bitches tearing up at a Supes rescue. After I wiped my own eyes that is.
Last month, in my X3 Review I said “Comic books always have and always will be great morality plays, lessons wrapped in entertaining metaphor – just as early mythology and fables were. And to get it right when translating it to the screen, one need not stick to the facts, but rather to the soul, of what you’re adapting.” With Superman Returns, Bryan Singer sets out to prove my point exactly. Does he stray from Canon? You bet your ass he does. Strays way off of Canon at times. Hell, there are a few points in this film that stray so far from ANY established Canon that it makes what Singer did with the X-Men seem like a truly faithful word for word adaptation. But Superman is without a doubt Superman. He’s so Superman it hurts. It’s like seeing him for the first time. The soul is 100% intact.
Singer’s allegiance seems not to the comic books, but to Donner’s original two films. He borrows visual cues, enhanced by the amazing set design and effects, and turns them into truly beautiful little moments evocative of the originals while remaining entirely Singer’s at the same time. This isn’t really Superman Returns. This is Superman 3, the way we all wish Superman 3 had really been made. But it’s Singer’s reliance on pieces of Williams’ score and Donner’s little moments that remind us throughout the piece of its place in the story. Despite this being an entirely different cast and time period from the originals we know and love, you don’t doubt for a second that this is a continuation of those stories – and it never for a moment feels like a mere copy.
Brandon Routh is amazing, defying all of the expectations. He is singularly able to at times emulate Christopher Reeve while adding an entirely new human dimension to the character that Reeve was never able or demanded of to attain. There are expressions here that run the gamut from anguished to lonely to downright damned proud to be able to take a bullet to the chest. He gives looks that break your heart and make you laugh out loud. There is no question in my mind that this guy is Superman. I’m not saying he’s better than Reeve – but I will say that he is more than capable to fill his red leather boots.
Kate Bosworth. Here’s an actress that has really come into her own. When I met her almost five years ago she was an unknown with a small role in Roger Avery’s The Rules of Attraction. But she was amazingly charming, charismatic, beautiful and had that rare quality that you could just sense - she had it. Everyone around her knew she was going to be huge someday. You could just feel it about her. Unfortunately, as I noticed in her subsequent films, the camera just never captured her just right. For some reason, contrary to what occurs with most people, the camera never managed to capture just how beautiful she actually is in person.
Well, that all changes here and now. DP Newton Thomas Sigel (who seems to be able to frame beauty in every shot of this film) captures her essence and allows her not to simply play Lois Lane, but to become her. This is the definitive Lois Lane. Headstrong, beautiful, relentless and all the while a damaged woman in love but afraid to admit it. Singer offers up a very complicated Lois Lane, one of tremendous depth, and Kate meets every challenge thrown at her. This is a real career rebirth for her, her first chance at a truly high profile role, and she runs with it. This isn’t the young, raw talent I met five years ago. This is a woman proving herself to be one hell of a strong, capable actress and has raised the bar by which any and all future Lois Lane’s will be compared. And damnit if she doesn't look absoultely radiant in this.
Kevin Spacey? Come on. No brainer. Anyone who doubts his ability to nail Lex Luthor, even after seeing the trailers, needs to turn in their geek club card at the door on your way out. The man owns every second he’s on screen and displays the exact type of menace the role of Luthor demands. The guy’s just ruthless and is given a few perfect little moments to showcase just how dangerous he is. There’s part of me that would like to see more Superman films with some of his other iconic villains, but really, after seeing this, I want more Spacey.
And the rest of the cast works just as perfectly as the leads – especially the ones I was unsure of. Parker Posey, who I normally grit my teeth while watching (Oh, gee, I wonder if she’s going to play another chain smoking, catty, uptight, bitchy character? Oh look. She is!) actually bowled me over. I loved her here. She’s funny as hell, playing perfectly off of Spacey at every step – and managing to do so within the framework of an entirely different character than we’re accustomed to seeing her as. And Sam Huntington’s Jimmy Olsen is the perfect mix of puppy dog charm and over exuberance that has made the character of Jimmy Olsen stick around for so long.
But what amazes me most about this film is the fact that it maintains the soul of a kids movie. It’s very wholesome and cute, in just the way a Superman movie should be, without sacrificing the mature themes that they were striving for.
However, if Superman Returns faces any obstacles with audiences whatsoever, it will be in the form of length and pacing. First of all, while modern audiences aren’t as scared as they used to be of a two and a half hour film, the pacing will come off as a little slow for some. Not boring, just slow. Personally I loved the way this moved, taking its time to develop each of the characters so you can ultimately feel the punch of each desperate third act moment; but others will wish there was a trim here and there. Expect the same level and type of complaints you heard about Lord of the Rings and you’ll get what I’m talking about.
All in all, Superman Returns is easily one of the best and most satisfying films I’ve seen all year. It got me. It got me good. While I’m not quite certain where it sits yet, it is easily in the top 3 of my all time favorite superhero films. It’ll take a few more viewings to find out for sure – viewings that are just as long a wait for me as it is for you folks. Highly recommended for anyone who has so much as said the word Superman aloud before.
Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em. I know I will.
Massawyrm
They remind me of a Turkish rug. That’s all I’m going to say.
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I will be there!!! Too many good reviews!!
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Its a rite of passage.
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Massa Massa, please let me be third Massa, I be a good boy. I pick cotton fo' yer til the crows be roostin the next day Massa, jus' please let me be third!!!
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Superman is soooooo boring. Bring on Batman Begins 2 (or whatever)!
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Harry doesn't mention it and neither do you. I just got to know man!
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I am a big Supes geek and I was going to wait until wifey got back from her business trip to see this on the 30th but I think I got to take a little sneak peak on the 27th at 10 pm to catch this. I even have a Pretrial conference at 8 am on Wednesday but damit if I am not going to see this Tuesday night!
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I was so happy to read a good first review of this movie. With all the garbage Hollywood has been putting out lately and all the unnessary remakes, its good to know there are still movies to look forward too and maybe even see a few times. Already bought my IMAX 3D tickets for opening weekend.
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They should, of course, have Danny de vito play Superman. And mini-me play lex luthor. Kylie Minogue could perhaps play Lois Lane..
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If nature wanted Man to fly, she would have given him hands so he could build fake wings with those.
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...what are the other two in your top three superhero movies of all time? ----- And Vansmack, 'first review'? This site alone has posted a good hal-dozen already!
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wow. (by the way seppuku easy with that shit dude) from those 11 clips they trotted out I thought this was going to be mediocre to bad. hope this isn't where you and I part ways, opinion-wise, massa. I want this to be good just as much as anyone.
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I'm just wondering, being a big Hugh Laurie mark...could he have fit in?
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It was pretty bad casting, love Hugh Laurie though I do, but does anyone know what went wrong? Scheduling conflicts with House seems like the most likely explanation, but hopefully it's something more juicy.
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Since when the hell is SOLDIER a pseudo-sequel to BLADE RUNNER? I've never heard those two movies spoken about in the same sentence before. Is there some fact that I'm unaware of here? A little help, please...
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Nice review Massa. There was NOTHING (short of death) that was gonna stope me from seeing this movie and it's nice to know the excitment I feel is completely warranted. Haters.....go lay down for a while...it's gonna be a long Summer.
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... is this 'underwater' scene mentioned in the official synopsis actually in the film? What about this scene with the helicopter crash in the ocean, is that still in the movie or has it been cut now? I need to know!!! Oh, nice review again massa.
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Well, only in so much as it was supposedly set in the same 'world', but years after. There was a spinner or some shit in the background I think, but from memory that's about as far as it went. I did see it when it came out, but hated it so much I've obviously blocked it to save myself more pain. Maybe someone else is more hardy than I am and can expand. _____ Cyberfury, I thought he did mention the flying was, like, f'sure, the best thing EVAH!
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Ah, gotcha... See, now I never knew that. Does that change my opinion of the film? NO IT'S STILL AN ANDERSON FILM THAT F-ING DOUCHE... Sorry, don't know what came over me...
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Glad you liked it and though it was everything it should be. I think you should batton down the hatches though as I belive the TBs will soon go haywire. I'm looking forward to this... We should start a sweepstake, How many TBers are going to get banned over SR? I'm in for $1 and will bet on 5. Any other takers?
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Sick fucker in that, Mel Profitt. Great performance.
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I don't want to see a movie about Superman fucking. What kind of kids' movie centers around Superman engaging in hardcore sex? Sounds more like "Wonderman" from the old TV Funhouse show. But seriously, this sounds awesome. My expectations are now so high that I probably will in fact be disappointed. Crap.
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And I get more and more every day.
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...goddamn lucky yanks!!!
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Maybe because the comic books ran before their time the geeks for once judge it as a movie rather than a comic adaptation hurrahhhhhh we are making progres
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They were both "cold fish"
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IS HOT !!!! OOoooooohhhh Parky, ooohhh yeeeaaahhh baby, ohhh Parky !!!
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First of all, good review. I am glad to hear that the movie rocked. Even though I have not seen it I have a lot of faith that this movie will very very good and that the general audience will feel the same way. I just hope hardcore Superman or even comicbook fans feel the same way and view it as a movie vs a comicbook adaptation. One more thing, thank you thank you for making this a non-spoiler review as I have not read any reviews that have spoilers in it since I do not want to ruin anything. I learned my lesson from Batman Begins. Please post reviews that are non-spoilers from now on.
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Please link this glorious news, that is most likely as fake as reports of a Uwe Boll directed Metal Gear.
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Geeks should realize that Superman is the hero that, more than any other, they've had to share with the rest of the world. So if this Superman is darker -- as it appears to be from the trailers -- it may appeal more to geeks but that may be a tradeoff for some diminished enthusiasm by others (like say, the kids -- the real ones that is, the ones I haven't heard responding to the trailers as much as I'd expected. And my 10 year old daughter, who loved the donner superman movie when she saw it on TV several years ago has surprised me saying she has no interest in seeing this one)
Isolated incidents, of course, and when you appeal more to the geeks you increase your odds of getting repeat business and non-geek young adults.
If Warners is fortunate, Superman Returns will be seen perhaps not so much as Lord of the Rings for comic book movies but as a reaffirmation of the American way. Superman Returns. Morning in America. Support the troops. etc. Of course the film hopes to wanna have it both ways by replacing "...the American Way..." with "...all that stuff."
And perhaps the darker tone and lighting will resonate with people who see the times themselves as darker now. Could go either way. As we all know, Supes first appeared as the world was looking very dark indeed, when no less than two guys from the madman hall of fame were going by similar names to our red and blue comic hero (Hitler, the nazi "superman" and Stalin, whose adopted name in Russian meant "Man of Steel").
Yet in the midst of all that darkness America's Superman was as non-threatening and dependanable and as brightly lit as an episode of a Disney Channel sitcom.
Whatever the movie makes it will be hard to know for sure if it might have made more if it had seemed more kid-friendly in its pre-opening publicity. It would be even more difficult to overestimate just how pre-sold this character is, not just here but all over the world and with virtually every living generation. Record-setting b.o. is their's to lose. Haven't seen the film so can't make an informed guess about the effects of word of mouth. But with what amounts to an "opening weekend" that is actually a full week, including no less than four no-work days, the numbers could -- or at least should -- be staggering.
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Your cries of Oooh Parky painted a mental picture that I may never forget. lol
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No sooner did I walk away from the computer than I realized that not only did Hitler and Stalin go by names or nicknames of Superman, but it's very possible that Hirohito did, as well. He was, after all, considered a man-god sent to earth, so it may well be that he, too, had a Supermanian nickname. Wait I've just been informed that Hirohito translates as... Brandon Routh. Wow, that's freaky.
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It looks like the AICN crew playing damage control for Singer's Superman. Here's my prediction for Superman. A big opening weekend and quickly forgotten when Pirates of the Carribean comes out. By the time Snakes on a Plane hits the theaters, no one will even remember a Superman movie came out this year.
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could care less what quint has to say
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In my opinion, she's never looked better than in Blue Crush.
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How about putting the spoiler box thingy around this article???
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TERMINATOR 2. Not only arguably the greatest SF film (MATRIX and 12 MONKEYS right there as well) of the 90's but one of its great films. Period. That's right kids.
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Had to drop out because House M.D. got picked up after pilot season. Sorry, nothing juicy. That's it.
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I thought endlessly arguing over minor plot details were what geeks do best.
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Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but, either way, you're right on the money. It's apparently our fucking superpower. (In addition, to the amazing ability to never admit when we're wrong - or maybe that's just a guy superpower?)
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I would have been thoroughly pissed off if after ALL the hype and waiting for this it had turned out shit just like 90% of movies recently. Singer has pulled this off by all accounts. Not smashed it out of the ballpark so far that everyone else should just retire, but he's pulled it off. And if he hadn't left room for improvement, where would the sequel(s) have gone? The same applied to Spiderman - it was great but there was still a lot of potential to be fulfilled, which Spides 2 provided (and Spides 3 will no doubt provide more greatness). I want this Supes series to turn out like that. I want ZOD!! Kneel before me you fuckheads!
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Personly Iam Batman kind of guy , I think its all the things I want from a superhero , he is a normal guy like you or me who is seeking justice or revenge if you like, and Batman Begins is one of my top 5 movies, it was everything I wanted it to be, but I have to be honest I have the same feeling fot Superman Returns it seems to have that dark edge to it which I think all comic book movies should have because lets face it, we were all kids when we read them so having corney fucking enimies prancing about might sell to kids but not to the people that matter most....the fans!
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Too much fawning over such an overrated, aweful performer. I've not seen a single performance of hers that I thought was any good. She's also unforgettable on screen as she never has any real chemistry with any of her male co-stars or anyone else she's on the screen with.
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Well seeing as how Snakes on a Plane comes out August 18th, which is almost 2 months after Superman Returns comes out ... I'd say you have quite the affinity for STATING THE OBVIOUS. No movie sticks around for 2 months and stays on top of the charts. Movies are generally forgotten within a month of release, it doesn't matter what movie it is unless it's an Oscar-contender. Pirates 2 will be forgotten within a month, and SoaP will be forgotten even sooner. What it boils down to is what the majority of critics think and how much money it makes in its first few weekends of box office. I guarantee you that Superman Returns will be both critically acclaimed as well as a box office champ. Pirates 2 may come in 1st its opening weekend, but so what? Bets are on that Superman will make at least 250 million domestically by the end of its run. And that's being pretty conservative.
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Um ... maybe because there weren't any spoilers here?
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4412
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If a movie dies out within the first month, that movie is NOT a hit. It certainly means it's not as great as Harry and co. claim. Everything I seen of this movie screams mediocre at best. I'm betting on a big opening weekend, then fading into obscurity.
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massawyrm, i take back any bad things i ever said about you. i have honestly never in my life wanted to see a single movie more than this one. i was there in '78, and i'll be there in '06. just 8 more days!
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....of its run". Really? Do you deal in Real estate much? Coz I have this really scenic bridge that I think you might be interested in buying. Either that or some really prime waterfront property in the Sahara desert, which might also interest you. If you seriously think that this movie will crack $200 million, let alone $250 million domestically before it dies a slow quiet death at the theatres, then you seriously need to pass around and share some of that stuff you're smoking with th rest of us. Pirates will very hurriedly erase this forgettable remake from everybody's collective memory before you can say Johnny Depp. Critically acclaimed, maybe; but then again so was King Kong, and that turned out to be a overly-stretched out, over-CGed,and ultimately unneccessary remake - by a director who thought he could suddenly do anything because he successfully navigated (or is that, managed not to screw up) proven material- and which isn't exactly lighting up the DVD and collectibles sales counters at the moment. But that's quite okay, you fanboys need to keep deluding yourselves, under the woefully misguided impression that sequels will be spawned, from this (hint: even if this movie makes $250 million domestically - which it wouldn't - it will ultimately still be a fundamental flop, quite simply becauses its production and marketing costs surpassed that amount. And it has to make a healthy profit for the studio, before they can even consider greenlighting a sequel; not breaking even. So bye- bye sequels). so enjoy your superman movie, even if it means we wouldn't be getting a proper Superman sequel or reboot for at least another decade while we all cleanse our palate of deadbeat-dad Abercrombie and Fitch, Superman.
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d'oh! i mean i dunno what i'm talking about.
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Dude, do you work for Disney? Seriously, if you think this isn't gonna crack 200 Mill, there's several betting pools I'd like you to join with me. Did you take the Seahawks over the Steelers by 10 or something? You're missing the fundamental selling point of this movie. Not Geeks - kids. Kids LOVE Superman. You're in the wrong ball park thinking this is going to do worse than X3. Start thinking Spider-Man numbers and you're getting closer to the right amount. If it really cathes, it might even be Lord of the Rings numbers. Superman is a big deal to ALOT of people, not just geeks. But seriously, come join my betting pools.
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There's a little thing called "the rest of the world" when it comes to box office totals. I specified domestically because the majority of us on these boards are American, and that is the number that matters to us. This movie will make tons more overseas, as Superman is one of the most recognized symbols worldwide. It'll make its money back and then some, and if you don't think that sequels will be spawned from this, then the crack you're smoking is much better than mine.
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"If a movie dies out within the first month, that movie is NOT a hit." ... oh really? So let's take X-Men 3 for example. I don't care whether you liked it or not, that is besides the point. What matters is that the film is considered a hit based on its box office take, which set records. Yet here we are, just under a month later, and it's already sitting at #6 on the top ten and made only 7.1 million this last weekend. Within the next two weekends, it'll be lucky to be in the top ten anymore. That doesn't mean the movie was a failure, it was one helluva cash cow. It's just the way of movies, man. People have short attention spans, and new movies are coming out all the time. Plus not everyone goes to see a movie more than once like many geeks do. So, again, Pirates 2 will be forgotten within a month, as will almost every other summer movie out there. What really matters is the DVD sales ... that shows you how many people actually liked the movie enough to want to plunk down $15-20 to own it for life.
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Most of the superman fans I know have no interest in seeing the new Superman film. Actually, most of the people I know period aren't interested. I think some of you are over-estimating this film as you are superman fans.
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First off, feel free to read the rest of the review. I specifically wrote this absolutely spoiler free because we have so many spoiler filled reviews. I promise, I don't spoil a second of it. As to the action, oh yeah, it rocks pretty hard. They've been very cool about not showing any of the real money shots in any of the trailers. You think the flane sequence is cool looking? That's the tip of the iceberg my friend. Hell, those aren't even the best, most inspiring shots of that sequence. Seriously, dude. You have zero to worry about.
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How did that do, Mass? I know its not top 10 but Im sure it did some healthy numbers. And if this is as good as we hope it might be, why cant it do SPiderman or Star Wars numbers. Supes is a big enough cultural icon that in someways, all bets are off.
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want something face paced - go watch a strobe light - not a two and a half hour Superman movie
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Well they didn't do a spectacular editing job with the trailers, unfortunately, and that's where a lot of this so-called disinterest lies. But anyone who calls themselves a "Superman fan" but then claims that they're not going to see this movie, is full of horse shit. The real runny kind. Maybe they're wary about it, but they'll have to see it anyway to see for themselves if it's actually as bad as they fear it might be (which it won't be, as evidenced by the plethora of POSITIVE reviews that have come out). And until Pirates 2 comes out, there's really nothing that's going to give Superman a run for his money. Even after that, there's nothing that truly confronts either Superman or Pirates 2 genre-wise until Ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong's Lady in the Water on July 21st.
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You're definitely on ( as per the bet); I mean after all you WERE right about the fact that X3 was going to be a flop, right? Your record on that is brand-spanking sparkling and unblemished 0 for 1: 0 for 2 coming right up. b"Spider-Man numbers", LOL. You guys are seriously deluded. I understand you all really want this movie to do so well and to prove that Singer was right in walking away from the X-Men franchise ( which, as it turned out, didn't need him after all and did just fine without him), but seriously Spiderman numbers? I wish you were serious about that bet, it would be like taking candy from a baby. So now you're claiming that this movie is being marketed to the Disney generation? ROFLMAO!!! A little correction there: Kids love Spiderman, quite simply because he was essentially and effectively written, created for and marketed to their demographic (age-wise and all) - Superman is, and has always been their parent's Superhero. How many teenie-bopper types do you think relate to all that stuff about Justice, Truth and the American way: as opposed to an introvert every-teen geek who somehow gets superpowers at an awkward stage of his life ( think puberty and adolesence)? WOW, I mean just wow: LOTR numbers, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing at that one. I didn't think even the reviewers at this site smoked that good stuff that much. And no I don't work for Disney, I just happen to use common sense. Pirates of the Caribbean is a kid's movie made for everyone ( hell, it's based on a theme ride), which has already had a successful outing at the B.O., awith a solid well-known cast. Superman is trying to cast itself as a kid's movie ( hence casting younger unknowns and all that) while still trying to get over the baggage of an almost 20 year interregnum as well as the death of the real Superman (in most people's hearts and minds anyway) and his "Lois Lane". If you seriously think none of these fators, along with Pirates, is going to affect this movie's B.O. take, then I should be writing reviews for this site as well, because it seems like it seriously doesn't take much, by way of cerebral horsepower involved. Even the Studio knows they have a heck of a hill to climb trying to match X3's numbers ( and they ARE trying to at least match X3's numbers), so much so that they brought forward its release date; like it matters. It will be obliterated back to Krypton the following week by Pirates, and then word of mouth, the weeks after that. Thanks for the laugh though - "Spiderman numbers", right before you tapered off to LOTR numbers. Best laugh I've had all week, nonpareil!!
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So tell me this. If Supes is so good and righteous, how come he never slapped on a rubber before he superfucked Lois? Or did his Superjism just burn right through it. Mr Goody Two-shoes my ass. For all the time it would've taken him to fly to the nearest gas station for a box of durex. Supes is a playa muthafuckas. Also, Lois must have a hardcore pussy on her to be able to withstand the awesomeness of a Superblast, because the way I see it, Supes was a virgin until that night, so the build up must've been fierce. It's lucky she was able to fuckin' walk again. Remember kids: God saves and Jesus raves.
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....yes, you're absolutely right. The quintisential AMERICAN superhero standing for Truth , Justice and the AMERICAN way, IS going to make "tons" more at the overseas BO, in THIS current socio-political climate. I can't for one second imagine how it is that I never saw that before - you sir, are enlightended. One question though- call it a heat check, if you may: Do you honestly believe that WB is saturating the foreign airwaves ( outside of British, Australian and Canadian markets) with the same heavy marketing campaign that they are within the US? I'm only asking, because I need to know just how long the effects of that good stuff you're obviously smoking last for.
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being cast as Lois Lane...She's very pretty but I have wondered if she has the strength as an actress to do that character justice. I have been able to trust you on most other reviews Massawyrm, so I hope that you are right about her Lois performance..as far as box office goes, This is definately my most highly awaited summer film this year and I'll be really surprised if it is not the biggest movie of the summer at the box office.
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Dude, beofre you go rocking on my record, go back and read my review of X3. No, I'll wait. Seriously. Find the part where I said it would be a flop...what, you mean it's not there? You mean I said people would see it anyway? Wow. On the contrary, I knew X3 would make mad cash. I just said it wasn't good. And since you're talking numbers, what does a 66.9% 2nd week dropoff usually mean? Hmmmm. And on your second point you are as equally dead wrong. We don't want validation for Singer "Walking away" from X-Men. We're pissed he's not on X-men. He didn't walk, he was thrown. Fox was angry that he dared make a superhero film for another company. So they wanted to spite him. Beleieve me when I say that nothing would have made us AICNers happier than if Singer were still on X-Men. And seriously, what does Pirates have to do with anything. I'm just as jazzed about that as you are and agree that it's gonna make scads of money. Much more than the original did. But there's no rule that there can be only one surefire hit at the BO at once. Don't let that linear one track thinking skew your number crunching.
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1) Singer didn't make anything resembling a jingoistic film at all. Foriegn audiences won't for one moment be offended or tunred off. 2) Yes, have you not seen any of the crazy Austrailian advertising, the foreign trailers or posters? They're doing the full court press world wide. 3) now that I think about it, I'm not certain I even saw one American flag in the film at all. You keep talking about 'smoking' but the only thing I smell is what you're blowing up our asses ;)
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Does that actually mean anything?
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Well, no...but it sounds really good when you say it. ;) ***Actually, there have been some pretty good freaking films this year. United 93. Over the Hedge. Mission Impossible 3. Inside man. V for Vendetta. Thank you for Smoking. Tristan and Isolde. Brick. The Proposition. So, it is in a class with some good flicks.
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Dvd sales will be the true test of this films worth. But I don't think it will sell quite as many as you think. This movie looks like a loser. Piss poor casting, recycled plot, and no action do not make a good movie, let alone a great one. AICN has been hyping a lot of turds lately. It's always the same. All the reviewers give their "I creamed my pants" review except Moriarty, who gives his "good but not great" marginal recomendation. It happens EVERY time. Which is why AICN has become irrelavent. It's just a place where we can bitch about Kevin Smith. ;)
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And talk back Mass!
Funny seeing all the nay-sayers squirm as the great reviews roll in! Let them B**** all they want, they're just clinging to what little they have left! -
It's quite simple. In order for this movie to make a ton of cash ( as in far North of $250 million for a healthy domestic take), it needs to have more than just a huge opening weekend. It needs to have successive weeks of healthy B.O. take. Pirates come sinto all this by the fact that it will be vying for largely the same demographic as Supes return ( at least according to you, since you did after all allude to the fact that Supes is aimed towards the Disney crowd; you know, the same crowd that might want to watch a Disney-theme ride based movie), its fair to say that they will be splitting that particular much sought after demographic. Which is all well and good except for the fact that coming after Supes Return and opening on a Holiday weekend or week, that split will skew more towards Pirates and progressively so as the weeks continue. Hence the reasoning that Pirates will put a heavy crimp on Wb aspirations of Superman Returns stratospheric-level B.O. suceess. See how it works? Yes, Linear one-track thinking can be a bit heavy for obviously elevated minds such as yours but it can work wonders for us mortals. And my reference to your allusion of X3 flopping was not based on what you said in your review, but rather what you said in the subsequent talkback when you challenged talkbackers to see it for themselves and then come back and have their own say ( which they did in the subsequent talkback), only for a large number to actually claim, contrary to your predictions or hopes, that they actually enjoyed it. Of course outside of geekdom it was still a hit, and if you think 66.9% is a large drop-off, just wait until the second weekend of July. But your were right about one thing; there's definitely enough room for more than one hit at the BO this summer (not at once), actually 2 if you think about it (3 if you include Cars), and one of them opened a few weeks ago, while the other will open during the 4th of July week/end. For the record Spiderman holds the record for best opening ot the B.O. for a 3 day period (about $115 million), and that is essentially the standard that you have set for Supes return.( Oh wait, or is it Lord of the Rings? Not that it matters anyway) while X3 is the 4-day all-time champ with $121 mill. Dem boots is pretty large to fill......
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In dark times when America looks to its heros for hope and leadership, they will find one of the most American characters ever created.
They will find Superman.
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Wow! dude you think you are way smarter than you are, no really. I just got back from Turkey you know the muslim country and Supes is plastered all over Istanbul. I'd also like to get in on your bet with Massa. Now you have me bashing you on two threads and I'll chase you to a third if I have to. Can't stands me an idiot. This movie will make Spidey numbers if not surpass it. BEWARE THE POWER OF THE DARK...YOU GOT ME? WHO'S GOT YOU?
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If X3 were a stick, abusive parents would use it to beat their kids with. Bring on SUPERMAN! Great review, Massawyrm.
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"This isn
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Whatever, "dude". And if that's what ou call "bashing", then....I must say, I'm absolutely shaking in my little red space boots. No really, I am. One piece ofof advice though. You might want to consider actually putting that 'Paper-weight', you know, the one between your ears and all, into some use now, that you're no longer at the kiddie table. People here might actually be fooled into believing that it's not just there for show.
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Massawyrm and Darth Hater have already hit some points, but I'll muster up a reply nonetheless ... look, Superman's a hot property all over the world, and has been for quite some time. The amount of merchandising of Superman products all over the globe since his inception would put Star Wars to shame. Superman is a known quantity in countries all over, they don't have to be saturated. And if you think that people in South Korea or Thailand or China or Brazil will really give a shit about how close these are to the Donner films or who is playing any of the parts, and would stay away from seeing it, you are welcome to check back in once the final tally comes down on SR's overseas take. It doesn't matter if Superman was an American icon first. He is a global icon now, and there's a lot more of them out there, all put together, than there is of us.
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why have rules if they arent enforced?
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.....all over the globe since his inception would put Star Wars to shame". PROOF? please? As for me, I call BULLSHIT! Unless you can prove me wrong......
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I'm totally with you on the record so far this year: Inside man, V for Vendetta, Thank you for Smoking, all great flicks. But dude, don't even lump Over the Hedge in there! That movie was nigh unwatchable. Seriously.
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First - Singer left xmen. 1000%. He was negotiating with Fox and secretly negotiating with WB - telling each what they wanted to hear. Because you and Harry are on your knees in front of BS, it might be hard to accept the truth. He loves to play the victim, but he is the one who was duplicitous. Second - Kai Mahgra is absolutely right. Pirates will eat Superman for breakfast. Even WB knows it - hence moving it up to Tuesday. Ask King Kong how overly long movies made for the geek crowd play with the general audience. WB is petrified right now. From my sources, the tracking is awful and no amount of Harry's or your blind love will change that. The world get Superman for free every week on Smallville. They are not "crying out" for this as much as you are. Then again, as one of the TB's said after x3 opened to $45m in one day despite your's and Harry's attempts to mollify Singer by trashing it - AICN has become irrelevant. Largely b/c Harry is such a shill for certain filmmakers. Your love/trashing may affect 1% of 1% of the total audience. How about you return to honestly reviewing movies? Mori at least can admit when he is wrong (in either direction). It's time he (and maybe Quint) left to form their own site so we can actually get honest, unbiased reviews again. Then again, can you and Harry post your glowing Transformers reviews now? It would save us all some time.
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And that is coming from someone who has had a big problem with the actors and costume. Today, after seeing all the film clips, I've deffinitely warmed up to Routh, though I still think he's a bit too youthful. I still dont like what they've done to the costume (to say nothing of the seeming downplay of americanism), but I must admit that I'm sold. See you guys there on opening day!
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...are just a bunch of fucking losers! Piss poor acting? How the fuck can you tell from previews? I'm waiting to see the movie before I pass judgment. You can all go blow me.
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is pretty cool
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That way you don't have to endure the responsibility of thinking for yourself. What about the critics who saw it AND loved it? Don't go if you trust the critics. I don't, I'm gonna see it and decide myself. Maybe I'll hate it, but I'm not gonna decide ahead of time. Like a thinking person. So you can all still go blow me.
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the 66% drop defense is BULLSHIT! It was a holiday weekend. Any film would have a hefty drop after the Memorial Day weekend, also given todays sorry state of the theater industry, is there any wonder it dropped? If I recall correctly, didn't X2 have a hefty drop in it's second week as well?
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If after 4 trailers, 11 clips, and various other sneak peeks (which amounts to about 30 minutes of movie footage) you still don't have a good idea about how the movie is, then man are ever dumb. If you like the shit you've seen, that's fine every one has different taste. But don't you tell me I haven't seen enough to form an opinion about this movie.
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hey good come back. Listen the whole "paper weight" thing we get it you don't have to explain it over and over we get you mean the brain, genious! love it. Now back on point your wrong! Period! You started on a weak point (low gro$$) for Supes and you end on a weak note (your lame) . This is fun. BEWARE THE POWER OF THE DARK...I DO NOT THINK THAT WORD MEANS WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS.
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you havn't seen enough to form an EDUCATED opinion. so shut your bitchy lil' mouth until the 28th. that's right you'll be seeing it opening day! Punk!
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Man, am I ever wrong. Thank you, everybody, for setting me straight. I don't know what I would have done without your help. I might even have gone to that movie, and I can tell now that it really really sucks, because a bunch of pimply fanboys took the time out from masturbating to tell me so. Thank you so much. Now don't forget to clean off your keyboards. Then you can all go blow me.
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CANES WIN CUP!
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Or I could just pop the orginal movie into the dvd player and watch it now, since it's the exact same plot.
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had to stop reading. I
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....Someone with that as a catchphrase is calling ME lame.Right. Irony (and Stupidity) thy name be Darth Hater. OH, and th reason I have to keep explaining the "paper weight" thing is because you've obviously demonstrated that you don't know where yours is, much less how to use it. So we'll just start with 'learnin' you where it is, and then we can dream of maybe someday teaching you how to use it; I said DREAM, not exactly teach you - seeing as that's not physically possible. Okay, sport? Ata boy: here's your chewtoy, now go back to your playpen, and when we need a laugh again and someone to make a complete ass of themselves we'll summon you.
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knockin' my catch phrase ooooh I musta hit a nerve to cause one as edumacated as you to hit such an obvious target. it's getting harder to type this with all the tears dripping on my keyboard. you are truley a master of this medium oh wait those are tears of laughter for I laugh at thee... ya fool! I must say the whole "ata boy here's ya chew toy" sounded very familiar and I'm starting to think I know who you are. which would be very funny. Even if you are who I think you are yer stilll a tool!!!
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.....It sounds boundlessly ridiculous when someone points it right back at you doesn't it? Of course you know who I am; I posted right above you - forgot so soon? Keep trying though , you'll eventually get there.
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BEWARE THE POWER OF THE DARK... HEY YER A DICK! How's that? I didn't drop it just not forgot, I was havin' so much fun.
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I just gave ya that one on a silver platter have fun, Later.
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.......powerful men must be really trembling in fear somewhere. Really. You also dropped....er...I mean "forgot" it in the other talkback; . As always, nice try; methinks we'll give a B- for effort this time.
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... The Seahawks were robbed. 'nuff said.
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...head to http://tinyurl.com/ebla9 and be disproven. Why don't you just allow people to be excited about something without calling them sellouts and shills?
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if kids are the ones called to save Superman Returns' box-office, how will they react to a movie that is heavy on the love-story elements (according to all reports), the bad guy is a bald man with some crystals (and his goons), and is based on a movie made decades before they were even born? Also, they've made Superman a "dad", unlike Peter Parker that is just like a kid, but older. Quite a gamble IMHO. This movie, Smallville and the fallout of Infinite Crisis are killing me. hehehe
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More people do stuff! Thanks for the article Mass!
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... why all the hostility? A lot of you are taking all this speculation personally, as though there is a sense of propriety with the great Superman myth, which, of course, is silly.
Trailers, clips, and box office trends aside, it sounds like Singer and co. have tried their darnedest to make a good film.
If it turns out that the film fails to meet the expectations of a majority and consequently bombs at the box office, the only people who -
First off defending X3 makes you look like a studio tool because it was awful and only Fox executives liekd it. Secondly opening in one weekend with 121 million it was then estimated it would have Spidey BO numbers... Oops people afterward kind of told everyone it sucked and it dropped one of the biggest drops of all time. Now when they thought the film would be a 300 million dollar maker it's having a hard time getting to 225, big money yes but that was expected but the failure for legs is very interesting. The film itself is rumored to have cost 220 I have no idea where the money went since the films graphics were pretty shitty. So X3 is far from a BO super hit. Supes will die off at 240 I'm guessing that POTC2 will make 300 or more.
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Stop defending x3 with numbers and then post something entirely about numbers! Nice logic! Kai is absolutely right about this one - this movie violates ALL the same things you and Harry are ripping x3 for (rushed into production, screws with the rules of the comics, moronic casting choices) but Harry, Massa and all the Singer accolytes couldn't possibly be even-handed about that. POTC2 will crush Supes. You want to see a big drop-off in numbers? Wait until weekend 2 of Supes. Critics and Harry LOVED Kong, too. And then the public voted. After LOTR, the general audience got tired of overly long, geek movies. And besides, your numbers aren't even right -if so, then your beloved X2 and Batman Begins would have rivaled Spidey as well. These fan-based movies have steep drop-offs. Its just a fact.
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Seriously man chill. i don't know who's worse, you or Harry. So you didn't like X3, fine, but to say it's a flop is a little demented. X3 was not a flop. So it had a 67% drop, well all that means is everyone who wanted to see it went out and seen it opening week. I don't where this Spidrman level money was coming from, but i never expected X3 to make more then 250 million domestically and I posted that here. The audience just isn't there for this movie. I also don't know how it can be called a flop when it made more hten X2, just like X2 made more then the 1st. I just don't know all this stupid bickering and arguing over which is better and which will out do the other is pointles, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE ANYONE BESIDES THE STUDIOS AND THEIR SHARHOLDERS HAVE STAKE IN THE MOVIE DOING WELL. Will SR be a hit? I'll bet a month's pay. Will it do Spiderman money? I doubt it. Supes will range between 250-300 million domestically. His name will sell it more then the quality of the film. While X3 wasn't perfect it far from sucked, and I know Superman will fall in the same catagory. I just don't see how Harry adn his ilk can defend giving Superman a kid, but yet tear into anything that was changed slightly in X3. And for the record Bryan Singer did not make great Xmen films, they just didn't suck is all. It'll be the same for Superman, which isn't going to blow me away because of the creative team that is at the helm.
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HOLIDAY WEEKEND/LOW ATTENDANCE NOWADAYS=DROP The same freaking thing happens every summer to expected hits. Follow the the grosses more closely and you'd realize that.
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Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat. [In case you didn't know it, I was being sarcastic]. Does any fan read that line and go, "Oh thank God, it's a love story! I thought they were going to shove a lot of pointless action at us. I'm so relieved that it's a love story. Save all that nasty action for another movie." Seriously, why would any of us be excited by that idea?
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Huh? What was the logic behind that statement??
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Kid friendly Huh? Would you mind exactly telling me how Lois Lane having a kid out of wedlock, apparently lying to her fiance and then ending up with another man than Superman is a "Kid Friendly Movie" Would you also explain to me how Lois "shacking up" with a guy RIGHT after Superman Leaves constitute her loving Supes? You DO realize they are married in the comics right? You realize Superman wouldn't leave earth defensless for WHATEVER reason, right?
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They same guy wrote both Soldier and Blade Runner. I can't think of his name at the moment. It's David something. Anyway I saw an interview with him and he said him self that both movies take place in the same universe. Also as someone else mentioned before both movies used the Spinner vehicles.
Also there is a scene in which they show Kurt Russels characters service record and it says ...
"The battles of Tannhauser Gate and Shoulder of Orion " which are references to Blade Runner.
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not to let the people of earth down again. I haven't seen the film yet so I don't know if they addressed that but if you're going to benefit from John Williams' score and Marlon Brando's performance, you should stick with continuity.
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I am reposting from another board: Movies and TV shows based on comic books are sort of like a "master copy." They are the template by which most people will come to identify the character. Best example of this would be Batman. Before Burton's movie, the average person only thought of Batman in terms of the '60s TV show. Giving Superman a kid in the comics is different because comics are niche audiences and if it doesn't work, it could easily be rebooted. But by doing it in a Superman MOVIE, they are altering the mainstream perception of a classic character and asking millions of people to accept the change. Personally, I don't think it will go down well.
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Bryan Singer to Brandon Routh: "Do you want the part or not?"
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I Dunno - it was the same SCREENWRITER who wrote both. Soldier was set in the same universe with an advanced series of Replicants. Founder - learn to read. Not only did I not say it was going to be a flop in my review, I didn't say it was a flop in this TB either. Someone said the numbers showed it was good, I said that the numbers were probably a result of word of mouth. You are correct, it was not a flop. It made some serious cash. I always knew it would, regardless of quality. Laszlo - they make it in decaffinated and it tastes the same. Look into it. You keep referring to me as a Singer Acolyte, which couldn't be further from the truth. I think he's talented and made a few missteps, but my review is about this film. This film, which you haven't seen, is really good. That's all I'm saying. Trazadone - Don't worry. Plenty of shit blows up. And the action sequences are top notch. But the story and performences are even better.
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You sound just like Dr. Laura.
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It was written by David Peoples, who co-wrote the script for Blade Runner. By his own admission, Soldier is considered the "sidequel" to Blade Runner. Soldier is set within the same fictional universe as the 1982 cult science fiction film Blade Runner. Writer David Webb Peoples specifically wrote these references in his script for Soldier.
* Tannhauser Gate, a location mentioned by Roy Batty in Blade Runner, is referenced three times in Soldier; Near the beginning of the film, Todd's accomplishments can be seen on a computer screen. The screen reads that he was involved in the Battle of Tannhauser Gate. After Todd arrives at the settlement on Arcadia, a woman looks at Todd's arm, which reads, among other things, "Tannhauser Gate." When the woman reveals this to her husband, he replies "Tannhauser Gate was a battle."
* Reportedly, the original plan was to actually show the Battle of Tannhauser Gate in the film, but this idea was scrapped during production.
* The Shoulder of Orion, another location mentioned by Roy Batty in Blade Runner, is also listed on the computer screen at the beginng of the film as a battle Todd had participated in.
* A vehicle from Blade Runner (known as a "spinner") can be viewed in one scene in the village on Arcadia, while the villagers are celebrating what is apparently Christmas.
* David Peoples has also claimed that the soldiers of this film are examples of the engineered life forms (known as "replicants") seen in Blade Runner
* The film also obliquely references various elements of works by Phillip K. Dick, who had written the novel on which Blade Runner is based. However, Dick was not involved in Soldier's creation.
* Director Paul W. S. Anderson states in the DVD commentary for the film that, in addition to the film being set in the same fictional universe as Blade Runner, Blade Runner was one of his primary influences when making the film and the themes and overall tone were meant to be similar.
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Someone told me that once in i think film class several years ago and I couldn't believe it. Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I liked soldier. Don't get me wrong, blade runner is much much better, but soldier was not bad. I like how off topic these talkbacks can get.
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What has happened to us fans of comics and all things similar? As an adult I'm happy to see these movies get churned out. Sure they aren't perfect, none save Spider man was the most faithful in my book, and DD to even though it was mediocre. People spitting out crap like "SR will crush X3" is asinine. If we are supposed to be so called fans shouldn't we want the quality films to be good. If SR flops that will be a bad thing, because studios will look at it as the comic genre not being profitable and they will be reluctant to greenlight future products. I liked X3 and so did the portion of the public that went and seen it. X3 didn't flop or tank because it had a huge drop. The film made over 200 million easily domestic and that's good. Even if Fox spent 220 to make it which I doubt cuase I would sure like to know where it was spent at. Now if marketing is included in that figure then it's about right, but still seems a lil high. X3 was never going to make 400 million domestically, it doesn't have that kind of massive appeal. It's a cult sort of following and truth be told if not for the 90's cartoon that was so damn popular it wouldn't have done as well as it have. X3 is lucky as hell to have made the 220 it's at now domestically. Like I predicted on the TB before X3 came out it'll top off around 250 million domestically. Now on to Superman. SR is probably the only other superhero film that I said had the potential to make the money that Spiderman did. After seeing the trailers and knowing about the story Wb can hang that fantasy up. If SR makes over 300 million domestically I'd be surprised, because i'm giving it 250-300 million final take. Even though I love the Xmen much better then Superman, because I personally find Supes too vanilla and aimed at an white audience , I'll say with a 100 percent certainity that Superman will make more then X3, and that's only because of his American Iconic status, it won't be due to the movie being so good. Singer isn't an impressive or Wow look at that director. SR is and will be a safe movie, no risks were taken saving giving Supes a kid. SR is a rehash of the original. People b1tched and moaned about the Abrams script, but ten bucks says it with a little tweaking like getting rid of Kryptonian Luthor, Jor-el willing Supes back to life, and Krypton blowing up then his take sounded kick ass and would have blown Singer's generic safe version away. Well SR's is coming out soon, so after a two weeks we can debate the box office. POTC is going to eat away at Superman though.
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They could have taken a shit on a paper plate and called it X3 and made 270 million dollars opening weekend. The numbers don't mean it was good. Phantom Menace put up mad box office numbers too... so will Supes Returns.
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... Can keep up the storytelling cachet in a Wonder Woman Debuts feature.
A tone has been set with SR, BB, and even Spiderman, and she's argueably the last superhero icon who needs to represent--and is probably one of the harder characters to do so.
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I actually think of her more as the character in PARTY GIRL, or perhaps as either the character in WAITING FOR GUFFMAN or A MIGHTY WIND, or even the character in CLOCKWATCHERS. OK, I'll give you BEST IN SHOW as an example of her playing that character, but really, how many other times has she done it?
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Because it's fun, bitch.
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I'm thinking that's self explanitory about my feelings..
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I mean I like brainy bad guys but the next superman needs a juggernaut opponent type. Not Brainiac!
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Telling us to "French Connection United Kingdom you all"? Whuh?
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anything else but jacking off over this movie here? I mean really from the trailers alone you can tell it's shit. To hear it from this place it's like the second coming of the Godfather.
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Although we seem to be in agreement over what we've both said about this film. It wasn't too long ago that I was speculating this film wouldn't make $250 million domestic. Warners should have hyped *Batman Begins* more or equal to this film and reduced the hype for this.
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This film ain't going to appeal to the "family values" crowd, and I don't mean the Korn fans. First off, you have their prejudices against gays. You have a gay director, and two main stars with rumors floating all over the net about them too. Then if that doesn't shatner-can the film for them, the Lois Lane-as-single-mother-with-illegitimate-child certainly will. Usually controversy sells, especially when the insane in da membrane terrible twosome of Falwell and Robertson start chiming in, but it won't happen here because the movie generates too much "meh" as a response. There's no "that's hot" concensus about the flick. If you go back, its like the hype Disney surrounded *Dick Tracy* with trying to ape the runway success Warner's had with Burton's *Batman*. Its artificial through and through. And as ingenuine as any clamour over Ashley Simpson. Do people really want her to perform? Nope! There you go.
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Do not debate me on this.
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21 year old Superman blows a load in an 18 year old Lois and she pops out a bastard child while he's away looking at chunks of space rock angle WB has going here. At the same time she's a single mother she goes to school gets a great job and wins the pulizer. Get the fuck outta here with this monkey spunk movie. This is almost as ridiculous as FFINO was.
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