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MinnesoTRex Witnesses Oliver Stone's WORLD TRADE CENTER


Merrick here...


MinnesoTRex wrote in with a look at an early screening of Oliver Stone's WORLD TRADE CENTER.

When considering his thoughts, it's important to remember that Minneso saw an incomplete version of the film. This edit is extremely early, apparently lacking completed effects work and...much more critically...a score (to be composed by Craig Armstrong, if I'm not mistaken).

None the less, this is an interesting look at the project's general orientation and sensibilities. Despite Minneso's misgivings, I'm deeply releived that Stone (apparently) didn't head in the direction many AICN readers were affraid he was headed. Essentially, it sounds like he didn't go off the deep end here (i.e. no conspiracies or general weirdness) -- for which he deserves a tip of the hat, even if the results are as lacking as Minneso says they are.


Here's Minneso...


Went to a "research screening" last night of the new Oliver Stone movie, World Trade Center. They indicated that the movie was not quite finished - image cleanup, effects, music still to come - but it looked relatively close.

I'm sorry to say, no matter what they do to it between now and then, I don't think they're gonna manage to turn it into an actual good movie.

It's strictly TV-movie-of-the-week level, this one. A bunch of decent actors flail around trying to say lines that no one should ever have to try to say with a straight face, and Oliver Stone directs the whole with a sort of plodding determination NOT to be provocative.

The real problem is the script. There were no credits attached to the movie yet, so I don't know if Stone wrote it himself, but the screenplay is just god-awful. Cliché after cliché, with some of the baldest exposition scenes ever, and one character after another basically having to speak out loud lines that are really more like comic book thought balloons.

EDITOR'S NOTE: The film is scripted by Andrea Berloff, based on the real life accounts of John McLoughlin and William Jimeno, who are portrayed here by Nicholas Cage and Michael Pena respectively.

Probably the most glaring combination of bad writing, bad acting, and bad directing comes from the inclusion of this sort of "rogue marine" character who tells his office, "For those of you who don't realize it, we're at war now," and then goes off to search through the rubble of the towers on his own. He's written and played like something out a Terminator movie (again, without the credits, I'm not sure of the actor), and frankly, he creeped me out.

He was, like, so much a part of a different movie that I fully expected him to pull out a machine gun at any moment and teach that pesky rubble a lesson, God Bless America! And then, in one scene, he meets up with another marine played by the guy who played the evil Ethan on Lost, and that just ups the whole weirdness factor by another degree.

An unfortunate casting choice.

In general, the actors were all okay.

The men came off slightly better than the women (Maria Bello seemed particularly lost), but really only Michael Pena managed to transcend the terrible writing. It was nice to see Frank Whaley on screen again, and Jay Hernandez has reigned in some of his loosi-goosiness from Hostel, but in general there just was nothing "real" here for any of the actors to work with.

Which brings me to my real big complaint about the movie.

Here we have one of the most dramatic and moving experiences in modern history, and the movie manages to take all of those real images and all of those real stories and produce exactly NO real moments of emotion or truth. I actually kind of liked the trailer and was expecting a sort of big emotional cathartic event. But the movie manages to suck all of the life out of the true story, and only ever manages to squeak together any moment of epiphany toward the end with a Nicholas Cage voiceover TELLING us what we're supposed to take away.

So - my advice is to check out the documentary footage, search your own memory, watch all of the memorial stuff that will be popping up as we approach the 5th anniversary. And if you really need to see a 9/11 movie, check out the infinitely superior United 93.

It isn't a case that World Trade Center arrived too soon; it's just a case where this ham-handed attempt (or perhaps any attempt) is never going to match the drama, emotion, heartbreak, or ultimate truth of the actual event.

MinnesoTRex


WORLD TRADE CENTER will be released August 9.


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Jun 16th, 2006
06:51:16 PM
First?
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hope
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did it show the CD squibs during the collapses
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Poorly written review.
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Jun 16th, 2006
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Sounds Like Stone Shot the Script
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Jun 16th, 2006
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fuck
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Jun 16th, 2006
07:11:59 PM
explains why building 7 fell?
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CD squibs
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Oliver Stone
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07:21:54 PM
Controlled demolition
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idiot
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No, it raises your curiosity
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Please keep all 9/11 essays under 300 words
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VanLingoMungo
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Bruckheimer should have done it
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Jun 16th, 2006
07:40:16 PM
even the firemen were conspiracy buffs.
by mikep
Jun 16th, 2006
07:40:29 PM
There's no chance in hell I'll watch this movie; still,
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Jun 16th, 2006
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Reason
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Jun 16th, 2006
07:44:23 PM
not a nicolas cage or oliver stone fan but...
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Jun 16th, 2006
07:45:49 PM

by RogersPop75
Jun 16th, 2006
07:46:06 PM
i will see it, and i was there first hand
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07:51:33 PM
I'll see it oh and btw you conspiracy idiots...
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Jun 16th, 2006
07:59:35 PM
All conspiracy idiots must do is make you doubt reality
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Jun 16th, 2006
08:04:35 PM
Die Hard 2?
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Jun 16th, 2006
08:06:30 PM
Of course they were demolished
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Jun 16th, 2006
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Why controlled demolition makes no sense
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My Conspiracy Theory on Conspiracy Theorists...
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Homewrecker
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Homewrecker...
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Jun 16th, 2006
08:28:36 PM
I was not directly affected nor was anyone I knew by it
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Jun 16th, 2006
08:30:07 PM
Oliver Stone is a jackass
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Jun 16th, 2006
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Jun 16th, 2006
08:46:16 PM
It's a conspiracy man!
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Conspiracy
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09:16:29 PM
We get it Homewrecker
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Jun 16th, 2006
09:59:58 PM
I'M SUPRISED
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Jun 16th, 2006
10:07:56 PM
where did this screening take place???
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Jun 16th, 2006
10:11:09 PM
PLANT!
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10:26:45 PM
aliendisguise, homewrecker, & the conspiracy crew...
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Jun 16th, 2006
10:28:28 PM
Real questions, not dumb theories
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Jun 16th, 2006
10:30:18 PM
Demolition
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Jun 16th, 2006
10:49:02 PM
Documenting the Event
by RetroActive
Jun 16th, 2006
10:54:28 PM
Homewrecker, we understand your opinion
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Jun 16th, 2006
11:35:31 PM
Spare me the "too soon" bullshit.
by Novaman5000
Jun 16th, 2006
11:55:09 PM
Oh, and homewrecker...
by Novaman5000
Jun 16th, 2006
11:58:28 PM
The screening took place at...
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Jun 17th, 2006
12:24:22 AM
"Its' too soon" == bullshit.
by SG7
Jun 17th, 2006
12:31:32 AM
Homewrecker....
by The Ender
Jun 17th, 2006
12:47:40 AM
it all began quietly in 1985....
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Jun 17th, 2006
12:52:09 AM
For all you "demolition " morons out there...
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Jun 17th, 2006
01:04:02 AM
Why it wasn't a Jewish conspiracy.
by Shan
Jun 17th, 2006
01:14:15 AM
Personally, I blame the Protestants
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Jun 17th, 2006
01:38:47 AM
I hate Republicans
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Jun 17th, 2006
02:29:22 AM
Republicans hate you too
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Jun 17th, 2006
02:41:23 AM
I realized yesterday that my kids didn't recall 9/11...
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:11:35 AM
Reasons to doubt the official story?
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:29:59 AM
Cheese with extra cheese on the side!
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:47:11 AM
Meh...
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Jun 17th, 2006
06:36:20 AM
The lords of the dollar:
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06:55:34 AM
Retroactive&DoctorWho?
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Jun 17th, 2006
08:11:20 AM
Watch this video, keep an open mind.
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Jun 17th, 2006
08:43:18 AM
Oh and it's not "Loose Change", forget that video.
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Jun 17th, 2006
08:45:28 AM
Why shouldn't "the Jews" exploit the victims of 09/11?
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Jun 17th, 2006
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National opinion polls
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Jun 17th, 2006
10:26:42 AM
Doctorwho? Shows how much...
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10:40:40 AM
Internet Opinion Polls
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10:59:30 AM
interesting point, VanLingoMungo...
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Jun 17th, 2006
11:04:04 AM
Some Lutherans consider themselves Protestants
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Jun 17th, 2006
12:08:30 PM
"With the 9-11 attacks coming up..."
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Jun 17th, 2006
12:13:35 PM
Conspiracy theorists...
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Jun 17th, 2006
01:19:20 PM
Well said Kung Fu Hustler!!!
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Jun 17th, 2006
01:32:02 PM
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Jun 17th, 2006
02:14:40 PM
if the US government was behind the 9/11attacks...
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:09:29 PM

by WS
Jun 17th, 2006
03:23:10 PM
"
by theBigE
Jun 17th, 2006
03:27:38 PM
ARRGGH!
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:28:18 PM
"People denying the existence of robots...
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03:29:03 PM
Alienindisguise andThe Ender...
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:36:26 PM
sorry about the typos
by DoctorWho?
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03:37:52 PM
Homewrecker...are you for real???
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Jun 17th, 2006
03:50:29 PM
Every country has problems with terrorists now ...
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Jun 17th, 2006
04:18:42 PM
Well, if it's on the internet it MUST be true!
by DoctorWho?
Jun 17th, 2006
04:22:36 PM
Wasn't most of the dancing on 9/11 done by Palestinians
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Jun 17th, 2006
05:56:12 PM
Your story was manufactured by Hizbollah....
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
06:01:23 PM
world trade center
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Jun 17th, 2006
07:08:19 PM
Don't forget "hate monger too Bigdickmcgee
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Jun 17th, 2006
07:09:55 PM
Looks cool
by Reverendz
Jun 17th, 2006
07:41:13 PM
I'd love to....
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Jun 17th, 2006
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Oh really?
by The Ender
Jun 17th, 2006
08:36:09 PM
Doctorwho
by The Ender
Jun 17th, 2006
08:40:21 PM
BigDick....or is it just Dick?
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Jun 17th, 2006
08:41:17 PM
Hate...in fact
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Jun 17th, 2006
08:42:48 PM
UncleEthan
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
08:54:57 PM
Ender...
by DoctorWho?
Jun 17th, 2006
08:59:08 PM
Google it?
by cagirl
Jun 17th, 2006
09:08:19 PM
Dick guy...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:08:44 PM
Why not
by The Ender
Jun 17th, 2006
09:09:38 PM
Fire bringing down a building
by cagirl
Jun 17th, 2006
09:14:46 PM
DIE RUBBLE DIE!
by wolack22
Jun 17th, 2006
09:14:52 PM
Read slowly, Uncle
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
09:17:48 PM
if the US government was behind the 9/11attacks...
by glodene
Jun 17th, 2006
09:22:39 PM
Conspiracy theorists rule and so do those who deride
by wolack22
Jun 17th, 2006
09:24:08 PM
Oops!
by glodene
Jun 17th, 2006
09:26:24 PM
Dick...fellow...Big....Mcgee.. ..dude...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:28:09 PM
How the f*ck could a MISSLE have hit the Pentagon?
by Triumph poops!
Jun 17th, 2006
09:31:35 PM
What is...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:33:13 PM
UncleEthan
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
09:37:40 PM
my bad...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:38:00 PM
I dig, McGee...my man...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:41:48 PM
McDick guy...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:45:37 PM
Make Love Not War!!!!!
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:48:32 PM
Bush. Dick. Laid?
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
09:50:37 PM
I have a new Homeland Security Stretegy...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:51:54 PM
Alexanders Music
by The Ender
Jun 17th, 2006
09:52:35 PM
See Dick Dude...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:54:15 PM
Amen!
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
09:55:15 PM
..A Viable Third Party...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:57:17 PM
You won't get the feminist vote.
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
09:59:51 PM
Oh yeah...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
09:59:58 PM
...forget the MILFS...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:01:08 PM
....but seriously Dick...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:04:01 PM
Hmmm, I think I get your whole left wing thing....
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
10:10:35 PM
...See...Dude...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:15:28 PM
So about this movie...
by floydtheater07
Jun 17th, 2006
10:15:59 PM
I hope...my new friend...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:17:04 PM
....That said...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:19:36 PM
...I ain't making this up McGee...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:23:19 PM
all I can say is....
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
10:23:39 PM
...Good night....one last shot from the degenerate...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:25:01 PM
Homewrecker = Vulgarian
by Mr Nice Gaius
Jun 17th, 2006
10:25:27 PM
"Shaved their bush in protest of Bush".
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 17th, 2006
10:26:50 PM
...ok...one last thing...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:29:04 PM
...If that is what it takes to get rid of Cheney...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:31:31 PM
...ok this is it...Gaius...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:34:41 PM
...or love...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:37:25 PM
..NOW THAT IS...
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
10:39:20 PM
Will you conspiracy freaks STFU already!
by Orionsangels
Jun 17th, 2006
10:54:24 PM
Pussy brings world peace?
by cagirl
Jun 17th, 2006
11:26:33 PM
Anchorite....dude
by UncleEthan
Jun 17th, 2006
11:30:45 PM
Cagirl
by glodene
Jun 17th, 2006
11:52:38 PM
UncleEthan...allow me to retort.
by DoctorWho?
Jun 18th, 2006
01:35:52 AM
Just for glodene...
by cagirl
Jun 18th, 2006
01:49:28 AM
We (the U.S.) aren't exactly blameless
by glodene
Jun 18th, 2006
01:50:44 AM
Cagirl - Thank U Boo.
by glodene
Jun 18th, 2006
01:52:49 AM
cagirl and glodene...
by DoctorWho?
Jun 18th, 2006
02:00:58 AM
Hahaha
by Unaju
Jun 18th, 2006
03:35:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =U4WOXh8hbkI&search=911
by shonin
Jun 18th, 2006
04:44:05 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SXD 3bAbZCow&mode=related&sea
by shonin
Jun 18th, 2006
05:31:37 AM
Doc...allow me to retort...I dig it...
by UncleEthan
Jun 18th, 2006
07:12:38 AM
...it is....
by UncleEthan
Jun 18th, 2006
07:13:19 AM
"this little Indian number I am trying to get with"
by DocPazuzu
Jun 18th, 2006
08:43:36 AM
Anywho...
by Dutch_Drunk
Jun 18th, 2006
08:58:10 AM

by xenazhaan
Jun 18th, 2006
09:07:37 AM
i think this goes a little further back..
by zfisk
Jun 18th, 2006
09:47:29 AM
xenazhaan
by Kung Fu Hustler
Jun 18th, 2006
10:29:48 AM
oh, and xenazhaan
by Kung Fu Hustler
Jun 18th, 2006
10:32:38 AM
zfisk
by DocPazuzu
Jun 18th, 2006
10:45:08 AM
The fact is...
by DocPazuzu
Jun 18th, 2006
10:49:06 AM
Don't take it from the "nuts."
by Fawst
Jun 18th, 2006
10:55:48 AM
well if they aren't taking over the world..
by zfisk
Jun 18th, 2006
11:23:34 AM
zfisk
by DocPazuzu
Jun 18th, 2006
11:29:47 AM
tipoff to Zfisk....
by bigdickmcgee
Jun 18th, 2006
11:41:04 AM
oh, i didnt know this room is for semites only. okay
by zfisk
Jun 18th, 2006
11:44:11 AM
DocPazuzu
by glodene
Jun 18th, 2006
12:15:32 PM
We should start using Kerosene laced bombs!
by ganymede2010
Jun 18th, 2006
12:25:18 PM
glodene
by DocPazuzu
Jun 18th, 2006
01:31:22 PM
To tell you the truth...
by staticneuron
Jun 18th, 2006
01:58:23 PM
Bush did it!
by gorydon
Jun 18th, 2006
03:08:38 PM
Too Soon! Too Ironic!
by ZombieSolutions
Jun 18th, 2006
04:05:49 PM
staticneuron
by DoctorWho?
Jun 18th, 2006
04:11:44 PM
but I love Woody Allen
by samsquanch
Jun 18th, 2006
05:55:28 PM
gorydon!!!! Occams Razor!!!!!
by DoctorWho?
Jun 18th, 2006
05:56:47 PM
Wow ZombieSolutions...
by DoctorWho?
Jun 18th, 2006
05:57:59 PM
Even Top CIA Say It Was An Inside Job
by pockybot
Jun 18th, 2006
06:48:12 PM
Occam's Razor=9/11 Was Allowed To Happen
by pockybot
Jun 18th, 2006
06:51:55 PM
Pockybot
by CondomWrapper
Jun 18th, 2006
07:06:56 PM
No.
by gorydon
Jun 18th, 2006
07:22:20 PM
Bush Admin. Too Incompetant To Pull Off A Conspiracy
by ZombieSolutions
Jun 18th, 2006
07:52:24 PM
Incompetence Theory My Ass
by pockybot
Jun 18th, 2006
08:24:41 PM
GENTLEMEN!!!!!
by UncleEthan
Jun 18th, 2006
09:00:46 PM
Pockybot needs time away from the coumputer...
by cagirl
Jun 18th, 2006
09:05:41 PM
Pockybot needs to take UncleEthan's advice..
by CondomWrapper
Jun 19th, 2006
12:21:52 AM
Hey Anchorite
by samsquanch
Jun 19th, 2006
12:50:11 AM
Questions that need answers
by Fawst
Jun 19th, 2006
01:17:33 AM
Oops.
by Fawst
Jun 19th, 2006
01:18:58 AM
Gah!
by Fawst
Jun 19th, 2006
01:19:51 AM
Fawst
by Unaju
Jun 19th, 2006
03:16:32 AM
Pockybot.....
by DocPazuzu
Jun 19th, 2006
04:56:15 AM
World Trade Center film review
by realCOP
Jun 19th, 2006
08:09:43 AM
It will be good
by realCOP
Jun 19th, 2006
09:53:02 AM
Unaju
by Mr Nice Gaius
Jun 19th, 2006
11:02:21 AM
CT, not all crap...
by shonin
Jun 19th, 2006
12:08:55 PM
Sooo....
by FilmFanMan
Jun 20th, 2006
01:14:59 AM
FIRST!!!!!!
by HallowedBThyName
Jun 21st, 2006
01:57:02 AM
Ehr a, maybe not quite FIRST
by HallowedBThyName
Jun 21st, 2006
01:59:47 AM

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