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Vash The Stampede Doesn't Completely Believe A Man Can Fly!! (UPDATED: Languatron's Bane Review Added!!)


UPDATED 10:20 AM 06/16/06 CST USA

Review from Languatron's Bane added. He "whines" about the movie's "Geek problems", but likes it all the same.



Merrick here...


Vash The Stampede wrote in with this review of SUPERMAN RETURNS. Wait...there's a new SUPERMAN movie coming out!?!?!?!?!?!?

In short, Vash pretty-much likes the film - but does have some issues with it.

Beware...


MINOR SPOILERS THROUGHOUT!!!


...but they aren't too bad.




Here's Vash...



Just got back from a screening of Superman Returns.

Know you have had a bunch of looks, but figure one more can never hurt.

So first thoughts, I can't quite think of anything that is out and out wrong with this flick. Everything is done so tastefully, with so much reverence for the character, and so much love for his world that it's almost too difficult to fault the filmmaker's for just about anything in the picture... Except for one problem that I know some of your other contributors have mentioned.

But first, what works about this movie.

Visually, it's very simple, never calling too much attention to its self, but still managing to feel entirely fleshed out. You get the sense that With the attention to detail, people actually inhabit these spaces and they Weren't just constructed on some sound stage. The work of all the designers, from sets, to costumes, to CGI artists is top notch (it better be For 250 million dollars come to think of it).

Performances also work. There is no real heavy lifting required on any one's part. Amongst much more established costars Routh acquits himself well. By the next one I see him having even greater command of this role. It was a wise choice to cast performers like Routh and Bosworth who will grow into these characters even more. (Imagine if this was Nic Cage, oh dear...)

Ottman does a wonderful job of using his score to keep the action moving forward. He makes the appropriate nods to Williams and never tries to indicate or point out the obvious by tugging our sleeves to FEEL (Imagine Hans Zimmer scoring this...)

I've always admired Singer's ability to command the various elements of a film and bring them so tightly together that you often are left breathless. The high point of the film is the incredible airplane rescue that ends with Superman's glorious "RETURN" in a baseball field. I was left grinning from ear to ear.

The issue at hand here though is this return happens within the first act of the film. From here the film switches gears to Lex Spacey's (that's intentional by the way) adventures in real estate. This gets to what I thought was the major issue with the film. It's not entirely the most compelling conflict that the film could be built around. With his balding mane I almost worried that Lex Spacey might be the slightly more grounded older brother of Dr. Evil with his own Kitty (Parkey Posey) by his side.

With all the other elements of the film operating on such an accomplished level, you wonder why a richer conflict that encompassed greater themes was not crafted.

For example it is hinted that Lex Spacey suspects that Lois' child is in fact Superman's son. Why would Lex (who hates Supes for putting him away for five years) leave the kid on the boat to just "maybe" drown? (Like supes would not save the kid). This after the kid even kills one of Lex's henchmen with a piano. (Is that enough proof the kid has superpowers or what?)

Imagine the collateral Lex would have if he took the kid? How far would superman go to protect his son? (And remember this is not just Superman's son, but also Clark's, imagine Clark walking around everyday with the thought his son may never know him). That's a pretty rich emotional conflict that could have easily created a heart racing climax.

But what do we get? Lex builds a really ugly island that I'm convinced no one would ever, ever, want to live on.

There were ways Clark's emotional life could have greater been tied into the fabric of film, involved his mother even more, and still featured many incredible set pieces. It's that emotional rush that lingers much more than the most eye popping of effects.

So is the film a let down? By no means.

You'll get your money's worth I promise. It's just that if Singer and his boys were committed enough to create such a rich world and great characters, to take risks with the mythology by giving Supes and Lois a kid, why didn't they take the extra step to give him a conflict and an antagonist who truly provided a dramatic crux for the film?

If Singer pulled that off then we would never doubt that a man truly can fly...


Now, here's Languatron's Bane with a similar perspective...


I don't get press passes to movies all that often, since I live in the wrong state, but a fortuitous visit with a friend yielded a seat at a recent Superman Returns press screening, and I was so excited that I soiled myself. That is, I figuratively soiled myself. You're welcome to check my shorts if you'd like.

It's been a few days since I got back, and it hadn't really occurred to me to write a review. That would be cheating, wouldn't it? (Not really sure what that means.) But as I read the other reviews posted here, I thought I'd try to get my two cents in, since there are a few things I think they missed. Plus, I'm better looking than most. (Uglier than some.)

The big question gets an affirmative answer: Yes, this is a good film. Visually, it's almost overwhelming. They seem determined to do all the things they couldn't do in '78 with people hanging on wires, and they more than deliver. It would take more wires than all the orthodontists in North America could muster to duplicate the shuttle plane rescue sequence that marks Superman's real return, yet I couldn't help thinking that it was just the helicopter sequence from Superman: The Movie on steroids.

Which leads me to one of my biggest beefs with this flick - it is SLAVISHLY devoted to the original Donner film. It's eerie, really. Anyone who said this is just a pseudo-sequel is kidding himself. (Or herself, I guess, but come on, who are we kidding? A woman reading AICN? Please.)

EDITOR'S NOTE: To diffuse the inevitable influx of e-mails and Talkbacks -- women DO read AICN. Whether or not they can stomach it is an entirely different issue...

This is more Superman II than Superman II ever was. Yes, I know that the original II was supposedly part of the backstory, but visually, the entire template is drawn directly from the first film, and the plot points and references demonstrate a fetishistic obsession with Movie #1, with only oblique references to the second film. (Don't want to get to spoiler-y, but as many of your reviewers have revealed, the big "twist," which isn't really a twist to anyone with six brain cells, calls to mind the second film's arctic bedroom set.)

When Supes cautions the plane passengers not to give up flying because "statistically speaking, it's still the safest way to travel," I let out a mighty sigh. (See, Chris Reeve said the same thing to Margot Kidder after the non-steroidal helicopter dealie. Ha ha! Just like Movie #1! Only on steroids!) Most folks didn't catch the reference, as far as I could tell. I'm a geek, so I got it, but I didn't know quite what to do with it. This was just one of a multitude of similar "in-jokes" that felt less like an affectionate nod to Movie #1 and more like this movie is psychotically stalking Movie #1. It's like Singer keeps dialing Donner's phone number just to hear him breathing on the other end.

Which leads me to another beef - the Brando footage. Call me crazy, but I didn't really notice anything that wasn't in movie #1, except maybe the stuff at the fortress when Lex first arrives there. I had always assumed that using Brando was an opportunity to finally give the world the sequence that I've always wanted to see - Jor-El sacrificing himself to restore his son's powers. It's not there. Which means that Singer just used Brando as more food for his fetish. I honestly don't get it.

See, for most geeks like me, Superman is a lot more than the Donner film. Yes, some plot points - the plane, Luther's yacht - were likely lifted from John Byrne's Man of Steel comic miniseries, but that seems contractually obligational, not like the kind of sloppy French kisses Singer keeps planting on Donner. (Which reminds me. Isn't Singer thin, single, and neat?)

As has been noted elsewhere, Clark Kent has not been portrayed as a bumbling fool in the comics since - well, since the Donner film. Yet here he is, in all his doofistic glory. It doesn't really bother me in terms of continuity - you can't cram nearly thirty years of intervening comic book history into a flick like this, but Singer doesn't care about any other source material other than Donner. This movie is the ultimate paradox: it manages to carve new ground and tread water all at the same time. Which is really not that big a deal once you get used to it.

Enough whining.

Brandon Routh is great. Seriously. There's enough Reeve in him that he wins you over quickly, but this role is definitely his now. He looks younger than Reeve, but his voice is deeper, and he actually seems more gravitas-y than even Reeve did. That may be blasphemy, but Routh really sold the flick for me.

Kevin Spacey is tremendous, too, although he seems more hampered by Hackman than Routh does by Reeve. Spacey's venom is more fun than his camp, but I think that's because the campy Luthor never really sat well with me even back in '78. Spacey delivers, but I still don't understand why Lex Luthor hangs with Otises and Miss Tessmacher/Kitty Kowalskis. (Parker Posey stinks, I think, but unlike many geeks, I always think Parker Posey stinks. I saw her in a play in New York with Matthew Broderick called "Taller than a Dwarf," and she was perfectly wretched. I'm not sure how much of my dislike for her was a spillover from that experience. But you'll have to admit that whatever you think of her performance, her character's pretty stupid.) Luthor doesn't surround himself with incompetents in the comic books, but, again, nobody involved here cares about comic books that Richard Donner hasn't read.

The only real departure from Donner is Katie Bosworth's Lois Lane. And, to be honest, she didn't do much for me. Yes, I think she's too young, and - here's what's weird - too pretty. A little too sweet. Singer goes so far out of his way to recreate Donner, and then he changes Margot Kidder's frying-pan-faced spitfire into Katie Bosworth. No matter what you thought of Kidder, Bosworth is out of place in the surrounding Donner lovefest. (Actually, Kidder, to me, is the definitive Lois Lane, even more than Christopher Reeve's Superman. Which means I'm nuts. So take what I've said about Bosworth with a heavy grain of salt.)

All in all, it was a great night at the movies, and I wasn't disappointed. My geek problems are represented here in far greater proportion to how they affected my enjoyment of the film itself. I just hope that in future installments, Singer can carve new ground without treading water.


Thanks for the write-ups, folks. Well done...


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by meccabilly
Jun 16th, 2006
09:52:18 AM
That was meant to be... FIRST!
by meccabilly
Jun 16th, 2006
09:52:54 AM
MELTING OWL & UNSOCIABLE HAMMER
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Jun 16th, 2006
09:53:17 AM
Reviews
by kbass
Jun 16th, 2006
09:55:32 AM
Anyone else skipping this and just seeing Pirates 2?
by Mahaloth
Jun 16th, 2006
09:56:28 AM
superman will rock
by doonae
Jun 16th, 2006
10:04:24 AM
No, I'm skipping Pirates 2 and seeing this one.
by IAmJack'sUserID
Jun 16th, 2006
10:04:32 AM
Does anybody want to see this?
by Dannychico
Jun 16th, 2006
10:10:24 AM
It's like 99 percent of Super-hero movies
by cookylamoo
Jun 16th, 2006
10:17:39 AM
I've waited a long time for this movie
by supermonkey
Jun 16th, 2006
10:19:19 AM
I wanna see it...
by Brendon
Jun 16th, 2006
10:19:40 AM
Kidder IS the definitive Lois Lane
by Dannychico
Jun 16th, 2006
10:22:22 AM
Howard Stern Does.
by Sean38
Jun 16th, 2006
10:25:07 AM
Sounds like it's more than OK
by DrManhattansUnit
Jun 16th, 2006
10:40:40 AM
TomBodet
by Shermdawg
Jun 16th, 2006
10:40:43 AM
Singer calling Donner just to hear him breathing
by Doctor_Sin
Jun 16th, 2006
10:42:27 AM
hmmm
by FleshMachine
Jun 16th, 2006
10:52:03 AM
Yeah the stalking comment is hilarious.
by Regicidal_Maniac
Jun 16th, 2006
10:52:36 AM
Dana Delaney is THE definative Lois
by Osmosis Jones
Jun 16th, 2006
10:59:04 AM
Part 3? How about Part 1?
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
10:59:33 AM
P.S. Yes on Dana Delaney
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:00:43 AM
What was Abrams script about?
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:10:32 AM
Maybe they can make Abrams script when SR bombs.
by Regicidal_Maniac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:12:23 AM
I hated Margot Kidder as Lois Lane
by Snookeroo
Jun 16th, 2006
11:14:43 AM
Yeah, Luthor is fine
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:16:42 AM
Bring Back Nuclear Man!
by Stallion_Cornell
Jun 16th, 2006
11:20:05 AM
What the hell?
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:21:53 AM
Kevin Spacey
by bigboxer
Jun 16th, 2006
11:22:11 AM
TOO SOON!
by Stallion_Cornell
Jun 16th, 2006
11:30:01 AM
Doomsday was actually in the Smith script
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:31:28 AM
Lois Lanes I'd Like to Fuck
by dicbeaks
Jun 16th, 2006
11:34:12 AM
dicbeaks
by Shermdawg
Jun 16th, 2006
11:36:52 AM
Dude, if Darkseid is too fantasy for a Superman movie
by Terry_1978
Jun 16th, 2006
11:40:14 AM
Exactly Terry, I want Supes to fight...
by Shermdawg
Jun 16th, 2006
11:42:25 AM
I mean, Kal-El is an alien after all
by Terry_1978
Jun 16th, 2006
11:47:07 AM
Shermdawg
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
11:53:06 AM
Werewolves and Vampires
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
11:55:24 AM
Erica Durance
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
11:56:08 AM
Superman doesn't fight anyone in this movie
by Snookeroo
Jun 16th, 2006
11:57:28 AM
Darkseid as he is is too fantasy
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:57:45 AM
Give up, Snookeroo you are talking to an internet male
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
11:59:12 AM
no matter what this film will NOT rape my childhood
by Cory849
Jun 16th, 2006
12:05:30 PM
Donner
by EnlightenedOne
Jun 16th, 2006
12:12:14 PM
Sueprman is not the micky mouse of superheroes
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
12:20:09 PM
Sequel
by jasper Stillwell
Jun 16th, 2006
12:23:18 PM
Spelling
by jasper Stillwell
Jun 16th, 2006
12:24:34 PM
Brainiac + Zod, or Darkside better be in the sequel
by R.C. the "Wise"
Jun 16th, 2006
12:27:51 PM
Brainiac + Zod? Why?
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
12:38:42 PM
Plant reviews galore...
by commonsense101
Jun 16th, 2006
01:02:05 PM
Phoenix changes ruined X3 but Supes can be a dad now??
by The Founder
Jun 16th, 2006
01:14:53 PM
Hate to tell you you're wrong
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
01:22:44 PM
Durance
by Shermdawg
Jun 16th, 2006
01:36:39 PM
Wait a sec, are you spying on me? *looks around*
by Shermdawg
Jun 16th, 2006
01:48:28 PM
I'm glad you said that Sherm
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
01:50:24 PM
You're off your rocker.
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
01:55:37 PM
FUCK the comics and FUCK YOU
by performingmonkey
Jun 16th, 2006
02:04:06 PM
Ok, I'm now convinced
by Doctor_Sin
Jun 16th, 2006
02:05:26 PM
Moviemack
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
02:05:27 PM
I understand your reasoning but,
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
02:07:59 PM
"Maybe she(Chloe) is more Lois than any live action one
by performingmonkey
Jun 16th, 2006
02:08:13 PM
You take some unemployed writers and give them...
by commonsense101
Jun 16th, 2006
02:14:35 PM
Lois
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
02:14:43 PM
Doctor_Sin...
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Jun 16th, 2006
02:16:56 PM
Relax YackBacker
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Jun 16th, 2006
02:18:26 PM
Take it easy Yackbacker
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Jun 16th, 2006
02:26:13 PM
Oh yeah,
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Jun 16th, 2006
02:28:14 PM
I am no longer at peac
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
02:30:31 PM
Great. Someone stretched the talkback.
by Snookeroo
Jun 16th, 2006
02:37:55 PM
By the way, I'm trying to be a lot more fair here
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
02:53:56 PM
I don't have a stretched talkback
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Jun 16th, 2006
02:55:47 PM
Engineer at Peace
by Cory849
Jun 16th, 2006
03:03:03 PM
Not just magic
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
03:03:26 PM
Doomsday is a good point
by Cory849
Jun 16th, 2006
03:06:26 PM
Now that Lois is the mom of Supe's kid
by supes1m
Jun 16th, 2006
03:07:29 PM
on the subject of a new talkback
by Cory849
Jun 16th, 2006
03:12:25 PM
YackBacker....
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
03:19:38 PM
I do have a pretty sweet monitor.
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
03:23:50 PM
First Negative Review
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
03:25:27 PM
Lobo...
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
03:38:09 PM
Lobo was a parody of Wolverine
by Cory849
Jun 16th, 2006
03:43:23 PM
SPOILERS?
by Spangler
Jun 16th, 2006
03:43:55 PM
Yeah Ky-el
by Engineer_at_peac
Jun 16th, 2006
03:51:04 PM
Shotgun to the uterus
by Domi'sInnerChild
Jun 16th, 2006
03:57:03 PM
Doomsday
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
04:01:56 PM
Frontpage....
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
04:18:37 PM
How can...
by godhatesyou
Jun 16th, 2006
04:27:28 PM
Sequel Idea?
by dogmonsta
Jun 16th, 2006
04:29:49 PM
Doomsday
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
04:48:27 PM
dogmonsta
by Turd Furgusen
Jun 16th, 2006
04:58:21 PM
This reviews remind me of...
by hank henshaw
Jun 16th, 2006
05:01:34 PM
Hank
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
05:07:41 PM
Ky-El, that's not the way I remember it...
by hank henshaw
Jun 16th, 2006
05:25:08 PM
F69
by Doctor_Sin
Jun 16th, 2006
05:28:18 PM
Fair Enough
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
05:37:32 PM
Ky-El
by Ridge
Jun 16th, 2006
05:40:37 PM
I guess they could have screwed it up worse
by Rupee88
Jun 16th, 2006
05:55:37 PM
Ridge
by Ky-El
Jun 16th, 2006
06:10:49 PM
"can't please fanboys"
by Cory849
Jun 16th, 2006
06:16:23 PM
Can't please fanboys?!
by Stallion_Cornell
Jun 16th, 2006
06:33:59 PM
BANE!!!!!!
by UncleEthan
Jun 16th, 2006
06:38:54 PM
Illegitimate father and deadbeat dad
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 16th, 2006
06:54:18 PM
Correction
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 16th, 2006
06:57:39 PM
i can't wait to see this
by BALTIMOREJACK
Jun 16th, 2006
07:06:27 PM
Ummm....
by Drunken Rage
Jun 16th, 2006
07:32:12 PM
procreation
by supes1m
Jun 16th, 2006
07:49:23 PM
supes1m, "Canon has not established superman can't"
by Immortal_Fish
Jun 16th, 2006
08:52:45 PM
Sounds to me.....
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 16th, 2006
09:17:06 PM
Kingdom Come
by alienindisguise
Jun 16th, 2006
09:27:04 PM
Lois
by beelkay
Jun 16th, 2006
10:02:21 PM
Superman's kid has superpowers = makes no sense
by jorson2
Jun 16th, 2006
10:07:34 PM
LANGUATRON'S BANE: Contact Me!
by The Gorn
Jun 16th, 2006
10:58:04 PM
regarding supes kid
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 16th, 2006
11:17:42 PM
Singer lacks scope.
by Rant Breath
Jun 17th, 2006
12:46:26 AM
Jennifer Connelly...
by Harysuxafat1
Jun 17th, 2006
01:42:29 AM
I can't believe...
by VanLingoMungo
Jun 17th, 2006
02:06:14 AM
It's like remaking The Godfather...
by sillypig
Jun 17th, 2006
02:45:12 AM
Right I've just discovered that I can't write or spell
by sillypig
Jun 17th, 2006
02:49:14 AM
Hehehehe Immortal_Fish
by Ridge
Jun 17th, 2006
04:37:10 AM
"carve new ground without treading water"
by Cedar_Room
Jun 17th, 2006
06:53:22 AM
"There hasn't been one negative review yet"
by TheWoodMan
Jun 17th, 2006
08:10:36 AM
Sequel to the originals?
by CharlesBronson24
Jun 17th, 2006
09:18:11 AM
Parjer Posey is No Perrine
by half vader
Jun 17th, 2006
09:25:38 AM
homophobic fanboy?
by JoeQuest
Jun 17th, 2006
09:51:10 AM
Just to add some fuel...
by LazarusRevival
Jun 17th, 2006
09:57:24 AM
procreation
by supes1m
Jun 17th, 2006
11:48:51 AM
superkid
by supes1m
Jun 17th, 2006
11:58:24 AM
Only overweight women with hairy armpits read AICN.
by Lezbo Milk
Jun 17th, 2006
12:28:15 PM
Fuck! I thought we we're done with nerdy Clark.
by Neo Zeed
Jun 17th, 2006
01:45:56 PM
Sounds Like No X2
by Roboteer
Jun 17th, 2006
02:09:50 PM
moviemack and roboteer
by BALTIMOREJACK
Jun 17th, 2006
03:55:17 PM
and no one bothered to mention the premiere..
by Agent sith
Jun 17th, 2006
06:27:45 PM
Why the movie turned out this way
by Dasher
Jun 17th, 2006
06:35:19 PM
I agree with Ky-El re: fanboys
by SirSpike
Jun 17th, 2006
08:18:29 PM
Supes identity
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 18th, 2006
01:00:41 AM
This version of Lois and Superman look like they
by superninja
Jun 18th, 2006
03:15:24 AM
Dasher, that's a very interesting perspective.
by superninja
Jun 18th, 2006
03:17:27 AM
The trailers had me pumped, but...
by Shermdawg
Jun 18th, 2006
06:02:03 AM
mack
by BALTIMOREJACK
Jun 18th, 2006
06:10:39 AM
Better than dedicating this film to Reeve would be...
by half vader
Jun 18th, 2006
07:41:00 AM
Newsweek called this "kitsch" like it's a positive...
by genro
Jun 18th, 2006
08:27:23 AM
Singer could have paid tribute without copying
by Dasher
Jun 18th, 2006
09:30:24 AM
About the Donner movies.
by FluffyUnbound
Jun 18th, 2006
10:53:24 AM
moviemack admitted, himself, that he is an idiot
by JoeQuest
Jun 18th, 2006
11:48:28 AM
Way to destroy your cred with your screen name...
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 18th, 2006
12:07:39 PM
ObiWan_yaknowme
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 18th, 2006
12:12:00 PM
Bill was right...
by LazarusRevival
Jun 18th, 2006
12:45:21 PM
Bill was wrong.
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 18th, 2006
01:41:42 PM
Jar Jar 4 prez
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 18th, 2006
02:56:09 PM
It is really simple
by LazarusRevival
Jun 18th, 2006
03:31:23 PM
I'm gonna have to go with...
by tango fett
Jun 18th, 2006
03:52:04 PM
just a few points...
by BALTIMOREJACK
Jun 18th, 2006
05:58:16 PM
Hey!!!
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 18th, 2006
06:11:48 PM
In the movies Clark is the disguise.
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2006
06:35:30 PM
Superman's child will probably be a more interesting
by Novaman5000
Jun 18th, 2006
06:39:09 PM
Novaman5000
by RetroActive
Jun 18th, 2006
07:09:33 PM
Hmmmmmm
by FluffyUnbound
Jun 18th, 2006
07:15:09 PM
He's in uniform, costume. Kinda like Peter Parker's
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2006
07:21:51 PM
Anytime he does what Superman does, he's in Uniform.
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2006
07:29:10 PM
Of mountains and molehills
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 18th, 2006
08:53:16 PM
Read your own quote idiot. "This looks like a job for?"
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2006
09:25:17 PM
Funny even in the comics, those who know who he is
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2006
09:27:06 PM
Hey Justice
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 18th, 2006
09:40:30 PM
Superman II redux
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 18th, 2006
09:58:20 PM
There are two Clark Kents and then Kal-El/Superman
by Regicidal_Maniac
Jun 18th, 2006
10:12:05 PM
Thanks Redicidal, you just made my point for me
by JUSTICE41
Jun 18th, 2006
11:50:44 PM

by LazarusRevival
Jun 19th, 2006
12:49:58 AM
common Superman Returns gripes
by zooch
Jun 19th, 2006
01:13:27 AM
zooch, you PLANT! It's not an ADAPTATION of a comicbook
by Regicidal_Maniac
Jun 19th, 2006
01:18:06 AM
ObiWan_yaknowme
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 19th, 2006
10:24:33 AM
LazarusRevival
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 19th, 2006
10:28:29 AM
why the insults?
by LazarusRevival
Jun 19th, 2006
11:12:41 AM
LazarusRevival
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 19th, 2006
02:41:26 PM
Oh no!!! I might be served...
by LazarusRevival
Jun 19th, 2006
03:42:43 PM
by LazarusRevival
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 19th, 2006
06:45:10 PM
Clark or Superman ... Who's the real him?
by Mr_Satan
Jun 19th, 2006
11:05:28 PM
error
by Mr_Satan
Jun 19th, 2006
11:29:44 PM
moviesmack you can't read.
by sillypig
Jun 20th, 2006
02:11:49 AM
Hey Jar Jar 4 prez
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 20th, 2006
05:20:48 AM
Hey Jar Jar 4 prez
by ObiWan_yaknowme
Jun 20th, 2006
05:22:02 AM
ObiWan_yaknowme
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 20th, 2006
10:58:58 AM
ObiWan_yaknowme
by Jar Jar 4 Prez
Jun 20th, 2006
11:02:58 AM
^^^Now that I'd like to see^^^
by sillypig
Jun 20th, 2006
09:09:25 PM
Obi-Wan you COULD argue that Supes is the ultimate
by half vader
Jun 20th, 2006
09:28:02 PM
Suck a fart ...
by half vader
Jun 20th, 2006
10:59:40 PM

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