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Harry talks SUPERMAN RETURNS with Bryan Singer!
Hey folks, Harry here... I did this interview for PENTHOUSE back in March, in fact - it's still on some stands right now, but it's over 30 days since publication, so I now have the right to print the whole interview. The one you'll find in the magazine is actually about 3000 or so words shorter than this. So remember... at this point in the process, Bryan still had quite a bit more to go in post production. And I had not seen the film (technically, I still haven't.) Meanwhile, Check out Jeffrey Wells' Review, as my excitement grows! Here ya go...
Bryan Singer - Hello
Harry Knowles - This is Harry Knowles
Bryan Singer - This is Bryan
Harry Knowles - Hey Bryan, how’re you?
Bryan Singer - Oh, you know – a little under the weather, but I’m doing alright
Harry Knowles - How’d ShoWest go for ya?
Bryan Singer - I guess it went well, I wasn’t there but they tell me it went quite well
Harry Knowles - (giggle) yeah, Eric was up there and says it just looks amazing
Bryan Singer - oh good, oh good, that’s good. We’re just trying to cram, cramming to get these effects ready to get something in there to get a fun extended trailer ready to show there. Yeah, I heard it went really well there, I’m bummed I couldn’t be there, I really love Vegas.
Harry Knowles - Yeah Vegas is a fun place. Ok anyway this interview is for an article I do now for Penthouse, um and I am just going to ask you a few questions to get people jazzed about going to see the movie.
Bryan Singer - Cool
Harry Knowles - So I guess let’s start with, What was it about Richard Donner’s film that made you want to expand upon what he did?
Bryan Singer - I’ve always viewed it as a classic, there’s always movies that are worth remaking because they didn’t quite achieve even in their day a level of sophistication and quality that matched the story they were telling, but in the case of SUPERMAN THE MOVIE, not only did I feel that it had that quality in the time that it came out, but in terms of storytelling and character, uh, it maintained it over the decade. So I felt that it was inspiring enough to make a quasi-sequel to, but not remake.
Harry Knowles - Right – What from his (Richard Donner) world are you carrying over into this film?
Bryan Singer - The existence of Superman, the Daily Planet, the pre-existing relationship between Lois Lane and Superman, the existence of Lex Luthor as well as pre-existing conflict between Luthor and Superman. I’m not very specific about what they did and how Superman foiled him, but that certainly happened in the past.
Harry Knowles - I know that you have created a Metropolis, as opposed to just using New York as a substitute, where do you place Metropolis in your imagination in our world?
Bryan Singer - I place Metropolis in the New York area… in a place not unlike Manhattan Island, bordered by – you know those Eastern States and the Coast.
Harry Knowles - Tell me a little bit about Brandon, how you found him and how he’s matured as an actor under your direction?
Bryan Singer - Well, I saw him on previous tapes that he had done, to play other incarnations of the character, but it was in the meeting, while casting, where I connected him to this character in my mind, and I felt literally from that meeting that I had my Superman, even though it was several months later that I officially made the decision and told him.
What he’s brought to the role that is unique is a sense of vulnerability, that very much serves this Superman and story. The world has moved on, Lois Lane has a fiancé and a child and Brandon approached it with more vulnerable place than perhaps George Reeves or Christopher Reeve had embodied the character before. And he grew as any young actor would that was carrying the weight of a huge movie on his shoulders. I tried to give him the trust and freedom and guidance that I offer to every actor, but at the same time I tried to adapt to Brandon’s strengths and allow that to flourish in the character. That’s why the muting is so important.
Harry Knowles - How similar was the discovery of Brandon to the same situation with Hugh Jackman with Wolverine?
Bryan Singer - A little different in a sense that I was already shooting on X-MEN for a month with the understanding that another actor was going to be playing Wolverine and when that actor fell out, It fortunately coincided with Hugh (Jackman) finishing his run of Oklahoma in London and he was able to come out and screen-test for me and I cast him on the spot.
In this instance, it is true there was an absolute forward momentum and commitment to making the picture on the part of both myself and the studio, so the pressure was definitely there to find the guy, but at least I had some lead time to get him in the mind space of the character and also get him in the proper physical shape.
For X-MEN 1, Hugh wasn’t completely prepared and it took a little while to get up to speed. In fact there were some parts where I had to shoot around his body, before he got all ripped up and amazing.
Harry Knowles - I had heard from one person that had seen the film in it’s roughest state that it reminded them of CASABLANCA in a cape and that it’s not so much an action epic, but is more about the relationships between Clark Kent and Lois Lane and Superman – that kind of romantic triangle that involves her being with a guy that’s pretty great already. What made y’all want to go in that type of direction with the story?
Bryan Singer - Well, I think if you look at the entire canon of SUPERMAN, I think you’ll find that ever since the very very beginning, you’ll find that it’s his relationship with Lois Lane has always been at the focus of every single story about SUPERMAN, except for his younger years and even then there was something wonderful about watching their relationship and having the protagonist observe the relationship from a third position, which is basically the position of Clark Kent, who stands almost invisibly next to Lois Lane and watches from his vantage point. There’s something very interesting about that, from a storytelling perspective, it’s more of a detail point, but the essence of SUPERMAN, they’ve always said that behind every great man is a great woman and in the case of SUPERMAN, Lois Lane as an emotional and human anchor for his character is every bit as important as he is. And I felt that to tell a SUPERMAN story, the focus had to be around that relationship. And I guarantee there will be no shortage of action for this sort of large picture, but beneath all that… for lack of a better expression, you know, this will be the closest thing to a chick flick that I’ve ever directed.
Harry Knowles - (laughs) Another phrase people say is that the measure of a hero is often determined by the size or complexity of the villain he faces. I love the genius of casting Keyser Soze as Lex Luthor.
Bryan Singer - (laughs)
Harry Knowles - How has Lex changed from the Gene Hackman incarnation?
Bryan Singer - Well, he’s been in Prison for about 5 years, so he’s a little more pissed off, and I think while there is a measure of humor and whimsical nature that Kevin plays quite wonderfully, but my Lex is a bit more sadistic. I think you’ll find my Lex more sadistic in this picture, particularly when he goes up against SUPERMAN.
Harry Knowles - When you saw the film (Donner’s SUPERMAN) as a kid, you and I are roughly the same ages.
Bryan Singer - Let’s see that would’ve been ’78, and at 75, yeah, I would have been 13.
Harry Knowles - …and I know when we all saw this thing, the whole, “You will believe a man can fly”, just seeing graceful flight sort of touched us, since then effects have sort of become so commonplace, it’s hard to awe an audience these days, and QUINT when he was in Vegas – it was actually a simple thing that touched him, it was SUPERMAN flying through the grand canyons of Metropolis with the people looking up from the street as his cape was flapping… sometimes it’s just simple elements like that that touch someone. Have you the ability to sit back and just sort of go, “WOW, it’s SUPERMAN!”?
Bryan Singer - It’s weird. Well, honestly, I must tell you it came just during shooting, when Brandon, during the first costume test just walked on set and just be standing there. It was just that, in and of itself, because it was SUPERMAN, because he is so indelibly imprinted upon our minds is enough to be very evocative.
Although, there was this one time when Jack Larson (the original George Reeves era Jimmy Olsen) was standing next to me upon the roof of the Daily Planet in Australia and he didn’t participate in the Richard Donner era, so it has been a long time since he’s come face to face with Superman. He came up to my shoulder and said, “There HE is!” And I didn’t I know what he was talking about, and then I saw Brandon and I was like, “Yeah there HE is” He was just taken in. Really I think it was seeing him, ya know, seeing HIM was what was the most evocative aspect of it.
Then with today’s visual effects there are things we can do that are pretty amazing. Sony has had some shots come back that, are all in development ya know, but that show where you would be shocked that you’re seeing a CG person. I was like “Whoa!”, you know where they can reproduce the pores on his tongue, the fibrous hairs on his ears, you know where it’s necessary. And then there was some stuff where it was just wirework, where it just blended in, in such a way that it was just the actor selling it. I think it’s just the fact that you’re just seeing him fly again…
Harry Knowles - a long time…
Bryan Singer - in a good movie? It’s been a very long time.
Harry Knowles - Well in a REALLY good movie, not since the first one. I mean, the second one I’ve always had a fond spot for, I have a print of it in 16mm… and I also have a really long version of the first one that was like the ABC print, that’s got like an extra 40 minutes in it.
I know when I was looking at the production diaries you were doing. The scenes of like, Stephen Bender was in the running rig, there was just something intangible that made me think that that was indeed what it was like to see someone run at super speed would be like. Doing practical effects, what is it about doing it “in-camera” – what is it about that, that just surpasses what is so often done in computers?
Bryan Singer - There’s just a kind of personality and physical realness that you get from scenes you do in camera. And whether it ends up in the movie or just serves as a visual guide for the CG animators is intangible…. It’s just what real people do. And to grow several acres of corn and have stuff and physical leaps and to run using some of the largest and most sophisticated wire rigs built, enables us, and of course there will be enhancements and alterations, but it enables us to… it gives us a framework to build and a realness to what you see on screen, and as a filmmaker. Ya know, I think I have a pretty decent imagination, but it’s really nice when you’ve got physical sets and real actors to play off of, because there’s little things you don’t expect. And invariably, someone will have built something into the set that will inspire a shot or an angle. Invariably an actor will do something interesting that will inspire a scene. Or have an innate talent that will make it.
Harry Knowles - I saw that Warner Brothers has announced that they were heading into development on a SUPERMAN RETURNS sequel, and mentioned that you were attached. Have you really fallen that in love with the Superman world?
Bryan Singer - I love it very much, I can’t say that I’m officially attached yet, we’ve just begun those discussions, but there is certainly an interest in moving forward and the relationship to the experience, though very difficult, of making the film, logistically, at Warners was a really really really good one at Warner Brothers. So the side point is, if they decide they want me, after they’ve seen the film, to do a sequel. We all got along so wonderfully, that the logic says that it makes sense to move forward together on a sequel. Plus there are things that have been layered into the film that would lend themselves to a sequel, much as I did on the X-MEN series. Not saying it won’t be satisfying in the end, it’s not a two parter. But the business part about inking a deal or figuring out a schedule, we haven’t done that specifically yet, nor is there a script.
Harry Knowles - In making these enormous Geek films that are based on the sort of things that the folks at Comic Con and people that read my website get so fluttered over. How do you balance little nods to the histories of the character, to where you don’t end up making a film that becomes a “Where’s Waldo” experience, where the Audience is distracted by just trying to spot stuff instead of following the story…
Bryan Singer - There’s a constant, not being too nostalgic for my own good, is what I call it. If it serves the story and it works, it’s nice to go for it so that a fan can enjoy it. Like, I love seeing Noelle Neil sitting on the train in the original SUPERMAN THE MOVIE. But if it sticks out like a sore thumb and you can’t cut it out? CUT IT OUT, put it on the DVD! But I’m trying, as I did with the X-MEN, I’m trying to make a film that will be, that Superman fans will do that balancing act where too many inside jokes don’t really help me for that group that isn’t really familiar with them. Unlike X-MEN – most everybody knows SUPERMAN, they know he has an “S” and a cape and they know he flies, they may not know anything else, but they know at least that. The X-MEN while it has a huge following, it’s still is a specific audience. With SUPERMAN it’s a balancing act and I have to deal with the same kind of worries about fans and etc. What bothers me is that Alex Ross’ interpretation of SUPERMAN is so exquisite and so amazing and people look at how I’ve suited Brandon and see it as such a departure and what kills me is that in my mind in spite of the “S” being smaller and raised and the character being younger or whatever… In the terms of the essence of what I see in the comic series, I see myself respecting it. But I’m respecting it in a cinematic context in a way that works for Brandon on film together.
Harry Knowles - To me the whole Hullabaloo over the “S” being on the belt buckle or the size of the Superman Shield “S” on the chest, if you remember I never had a problem with that.
Bryan Singer - Yes
Harry Knowles - Ya know that there was always a part of me that missed the X-MEN’s real costumes. It’s always going to be there for me, and I know they might be incredibly silly if adapted, but when I saw the SUPERMAN… given the history of this film… and from when you came aboard it became an entirely new film from what had been in development at Warner Brothers for 15 years. From there, Jon Peters was talking about getting rid of the cape, make it a black costume, make it where Superman can’t fly. Ya know, all that kind of stuff. Personally, I can’t really imagine people griping.
Bryan Singer - By the way, I’m not totally sure that was up to Jon Peters. I know Jon and I talked to him about that personally, because I deal with him quite a lot and he’s really quite sweet and I asked him about all that stuff and the problem is he does no press, he just sort of stays out of the limelight and he’s never really had a chance to defend himself, but he’s like, “I don’t know what these people are talking about. There were aspects in the early development,” but he never defends himself…
Harry Knowles - Well, I believe almost all of that came strictly out of Kevin Smith when he departed from the project.
Bryan Singer - You never quite know, I’ve never talked to Kevin about this, but it is… but I do have access to everything that has come before and there are certainly some… -interesting- costume tests that were done. That I have been privy to and I (laughs)
Harry Knowles - Yeah, I’ve seen some of those too. (laughs)
Bryan Singer - (laughing) But if you were standing there on set and Brandon were to walk in, in that suit you’re like, “Whoa, that’s SUPERMAN.” You feel it, it took a lot… looking at models, body casts – and I went through various sizes of this and styles of that and this one was the one that the gut tells you “This is SUPERMAN” – On set I had a friend there during one of the costume tests and he just turned around and he felt like he had just met SUPERMAN.
Harry Knowles - Well even when he was up at ShoWest and Quint sat down to interview him, that when he shook Brandon’s hand that his enormous mitt swallowed Quint’s hand, to Quint, who is 6 foot tall, but he could have swore that Brandon was at least a foot taller than him, just with how he holds himself. That he just has a stature about him. Quint really felt he had met Clark Kent.
Bryan Singer - He is Clark Kent. That’s just his nature. My first meeting with Brandon at the Coffee Bean on Sunset, he was like… “Hey you wanna go eat outside there’s a table out there,” and he stood up and up and up and up, and I was like, you know when you meet with an actor – you’re looking for things to rule them out, like ok, this doesn’t work or that’s weird or that doesn’t photograph or that’s not going to be right or personality. But with every minute we talked it was apparent that this was a unique individual.
Harry Knowles - I’d also like to thank you for casting the sexiest Lois Lane since the Fleischer Animated Superman era.
Bryan Singer - Oh thanks, yeah she comes off like a real 40’s movie star, like she’s Katherine Hepburn, it’s really amazing… and she’s YOUNG! She’s young, and the moment she walked on that set and picked up that kid, you know you’re like, this is a Mother and she isn’t as happy as the rest of the world is about this guy’s return. Yet when you take her out to dinner, she’s like a kid again! She’s really unique, like she’s a machine.
Harry Knowles - Kate’s really picked some interesting roles, when she started off in her swimsuit movie, but then seeing her in that John Holmes picture with Val Kilmer was just so startling. You could see she wanted to be an actress and not one of those teen twitters that you see thrown in so many other films.
Bryan Singer - Well, she was very much to be nervous about this, because she didn’t really expect to throw herself into a role that would afford her such instantaneous visibility on such a wide level so quickly and so early in her life, and it took a lot of trust for her and a lot of trust in me, for her to take this leap. And she’s incredibly trusting, but it was kinda fun, cuz sometimes I’d throw things at her, pieces of direction during the process at her and she was like, “Keep them coming.” It was really nice. Kevin Spacey had told me it’d be that way, because he had directed her in BEYOND THE SEA.
Harry Knowles - …And she was wonderful in that. What’s Frank Langella like as Perry White.
Bryan Singer - In an effort to not duplicate what was done in SPIDER-MAN ( with J. Jonah Jameson), he plays more of a controlled and centered editor. He cares about Lois Lane, but he cares about his newspaper and he’s very much a cross between a boss and a father figure. Since his nephew is engaged to Lois, he has a kinda special connection to Lois, but he’ll never show it because of the work place.
Harry Knowles - That’s a nice take on the character. Tell me a little bit about Kitty Kowalski and Parker Posey in the pic.
Bryan Singer - To say it was not born of the Miss Tessmacher era would obviously be deception. But behind every great villain there needs to be a great villainess, and my impression of her is that I don’t know how much she really likes Lex, but I think she’s in it for the long con. She’s just gonna wait and see how much she can get with this guy and then she’s on to the next. But she certainly is another level of humor in there. They really pull off of one another really well. You know, they’re certainly the odd couple so to speak. And they create a nice humorous synergy when you’re with the two of them.
Harry Knowles - What do you hope kids take away from this SUPERMAN?
Bryan Singer - Um. Kids. Um. Principally, I hope they… (giggle) I hope they… (giggle) I hope they take themselves to the ticket (giggle) counter and buy a ticket. (giggle) I hope they take their friends! That’s my answer. (giggle) I guess. I hope they think Superman is still cool.
Harry Knowles - Who are you making this one for?
Bryan Singer - This one is for Everybody. And I really mean it. This comic has been around since 1938, this one is for everybody and I don’t say that in a pandering way, there’s some moments where you know you can’t please everyone, but really this film is for everybody. I want grandparents to be able to take their grandkids to go see this movie. I think with what people see on TV, that if it gets a little intense, they can be ok. I like that it can be a real date movie.
Harry Knowles - I assume since you’re doing a SUPERMAN movie as opposed to a BATMAN movie, that you prefer SUPERMAN as a character, what is it about SUPERMAN that makes you involved as somebody, who frankly is a more complex filmmaker than is ordinarily assumed to be interested in this genre.
Bryan Singer - I identify with Superman more than I have with other superheroes, I think. Like in the sense that he was adopted and I was adopted. He was an only child and so was I. He was not raised by a particularly wealthy family and I was not. Batman was. Superman has the kind of idealism and he comes to the big city with a certain measure of idealism and he gets ignored and abused sometimes, but he carries with him a certain potential and an understanding of that potential and he keeps it close to his belt. I like that character. I identify with that character more than let’s say Bruce Wayne, who is a wealthy heir, who is suffering a tragedy. I was actually raised by wonderful parents and I’m very lucky. And yet I wonder, I am adopted, ya know, you wonder where you came from. Plus he’s SUPERMAN, he doesn’t need a bunch of equipment. Bullets bounce off him, not a suit. Not that I’m dissing Batman, I love Batman, I grew up with Batman, but Superman is Superman.
Harry Knowles - Exactly, Talk a bit about John Ottman’s score
Bryan Singer - When he brought me the first 30 minutes of the score, 80% of what I heard was flawless, just go right to orchestration and 20% of what I heard I gave notes on. It’s really wonderful. What’s great is that he’s not afraid to incorporate John Williams’ music in appropriate areas, including areas where I didn’t expect it. Which was kinda nice actually.
Harry Knowles - What kind of score do you feel it is shaping up to be?
Bryan Singer - A Classic Score but with a modern edge. That’s why we temped with a number of movies including the original Superman, but we also temped with score from more modern pictures. Typical Bryan Singer movie in terms of orchestral score.
Harry Knowles - How’d that GENESIS camera work out for you?
Bryan Singer - I love it, it’s tricky in the grading. I’ve seen the film out on 5 of the reels and I’ve seen the Direct Image (D.I.) of two of the reels, which is the direct digital incarnation of the film, which is what you’d see in a digital theater if you went to one to see the film. I’m over the moon. If I were going for a specific look on something smaller, I’d go with film, but I’ll use GENESIS on my next film. The thing about the camera is it’s all based is its all about the lenses, the actual optical quality. It’s literally all about the equipment and the lenses. The chip itself is revolutionary and the amount of information and resolution it can hold. But the lenses… the same lenses that I shot APT PUPIL and X-MEN 2, not X-MEN 1, cuz that was anamorphic, but X-MEN 2 – a little bit of trivia for whatever it’s worth. The same exact lenses that I used those two are the same lenses I used on SUPERMAN RETURNS. Not the same “type” of lenses, but the actual lenses themselves. They’re held on retainer by Jimmy Jensen, my focus puller, he keeps them on retainer for me and Panavision and nobody uses them but Jimmy. So, it’s kinda interesting because there’s a kind of familiarity in terms of the image that translates and the CCD chip is the size and shape of a 35mm film strip, the images being laid down look the same equivalent as opposed to the previous digital camera strips which offered the primary color strips without getting very technical. It’s a pretty exquisite film and if you’re watching it digitally it looks like you’re watching a 70mm film.
Harry Knowles - How quickly are you going to go into LOGAN’S RUN?
Bryan Singer - Uh, I’m debating that now. I don’t know, I couldn’t tell ya.
Harry Knowles - I know that every film that I’ve known you to go through, these movies take a lot out of you.
Bryan Singer - They do.
Harry Knowles - I often hear about your back problems and just exhaustion issues… would you rather shoot something small or just take time off?
Bryan Singer - I don’t know, I’m just so under the weather now and I still have to go to work this afternoon and if I don’t the work just won’t get done, so I’ve got to do it. I just don’t know, I’m doing what I’ve always done and am just playing it by ear and seeing how I feel. There’s a part of me that would love when I feel full of energy to jump into a movie and then when I’m swamped I say I’m going to take a year off, direct an episode of TV show HOUSE, ya know, I love that, I’ll spend more time on that. I’ll produce another mini-series, I’ll direct a show pilot, I’ll do commercials. I love shooting commercials, I’ve shot 40 of them. Or I’ll do a smaller movie. But a smaller movie has to be for heart, it has to be really special to me. I’m reading scripts, usually I develop my own, I haven’t found that. And the LOGAN’S RUN script is actually shaping up really well and there’s a lot of great advance work done on it. The issue becomes scheduling and feasibility, so as of right now I’m in no physical or mental position to comment on it. I think about it, but I just don’t know what to do about it yet.
Harry Knowles - Well I’m very much looking forward to SUPERMAN, you may have noticed that I haven’t been as critical on this one as I was when you were doing X-MEN. The reason being was the entire future of the Superhero Genre was kind of resting on the shoulders of that film and you weren’t getting the best cooperation and support from the studio. On this one Warner Brothers has seemed to turn a corner in their commitment to filmmakers and their stories and I just think you’re in an ideal position to make a great movie.
Bryan Singer - Yeah, but all the more reason why I feel… actually, I’m very proud of the picture so I feel a sense of confidence in the movie. But going into it there was ten times the pressure, with X-MEN it could have been anything. Ya know. Nothing had been done, at least somebody got it off the ground at least. But here with SUPERMAN, one I’m a SUPERMAN fan myself and two, it’s hard to do one type of comic book movie, now you think you can do two types. There’s a lot of ways that people can lock & load and point at this movie. I wouldn’t have been prepared to make it had I not done the first two X-MEN movies. On the same token, it’s still the same level of pressure because it is Superman. Yeah, I feel it’s been an ideal situation, but nonetheless but it still is SUPERMAN! I’m proud and it’s cool, but now I’m just jamming to get digital effects where they need to be. Though there’s some stuff I’ve seen that’s just very cool.
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Wrong, Wrong, Diddly-Wrong.
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You can hear his love for the character. Harry seems to be enjoying his Penthouse gig, too. :)
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And how did Lex Luthor get out of jail after almost kiling millions of people? I hope he broke out at least.
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What's with all the giggling? Harry and Bryan Singer are like a couple of schoolgirls
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The Donner films were cool in their day through little kid eyes, but if you watch them now, you will realize they suck. And it looks like Singer maintained some of the campiness factor and gave Supes a kid to make things even worse. That being said, I'll still go see this because I think the actions and effects will make it entertaining.
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I agree Rupee88. I still enjoy watching them and find a lot to like about them but they have a lot of cheesy moments.
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"excuse me, mister singer, was that the left ass-cheek or right ass-cheek? i brought balm this time..."
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..why would penthouse pay for an inerview of two honosexuals geeking out about the reestablishment of a gay icon? it's a spank mag.
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which happened to be Bryan Singer fawning over the Donner films and wanting to an effects bonanza tribute to them. I get the feeling from all his interviews that he hasn't read too many Superman comics. And neither have I in fact, Superman comics generally suck. But I think they could have found a story arc or a graphic novel or whatever with a classic plotline to just turn into a film. I know the Superman canon doesn't have anything like The Dark Knight Returns, but there's gotta be some material there. Whenever Bryan Singer is asked "what comic arc inspired your film" he kind of trails off about Alex Ross and liking the Donner films. He never read X-Men comics either. But I'm not too upset, like I said I'm not a big Superman fan and I'm sure I will enjoy this movie. Certainly it will be leaps and bounds ahead of Nicholas Cage in Tim Burton's Superman, or Ashton Kutcher in McG's Superman, or Tom Welling in Smallville the Movie, or a Kevin Smith scripted Superman Movie. And I give Singer an edge on JJ Abrams and Brett Ratner. I just think they had spent so much money on developing a bunch of crap ideas that Singer just arrived at the perfect time as a Golden Boy with a "if it aint broke don't fix it" mentality. Couldn't some intern have left a copy of their favorite superman TPB on some exec's desk or something? Oh well..
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Even if made some obviously bad choices, like Superman's kid, he didn't screw up the costume or he's not just a hack looking for a quick paycheck. King Kong didn't turn out as well as I would have hoped, but at least Peter Jackson seemed to put his heart and soul into it. That's all we can really hope for, even though sometimes the directors do wacky stuff that we can obviously see is a mistake.
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I love it how the first "negative" reviews of Superman Returns come out and now Harry's posting a positive spin interview with Bryan Singer that was done in March...way to be subjective there, sport.
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I don't know, when I can see a woman's spinal cord poking through her back, I don't find that very sexy. Girl is TOO skinny.
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I mean, his medical issues(bad back etc.) are quite alarming. The interview was pretty good, although I always cringe when Harry starts to talk about HIMSELF to the person he is interviewing *Ex. "I have a print of it in 16mm
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and you didn't ask the guy the question all of us geeks have been dying to hear: "So...you're gay. What's that like?" The best part for me was when Bryan said, "We're just trying to cram" HAHAHAHA, cram. Funny [gay] guy that one. ----That was for all the sad, single-minded, bigoted little turds out there. Nice interview Harry.
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Singer agreed to give you an interview, and last march at that.
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...has me staring at my screen utterly dumbfounded. The implications are VAST.
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He seems to large to be a good hero, you know? If he can deflect bullets, fly, and do so many incredible things, it just seems like he is too strong, and that every villain would have some sort of Kryptonite weapon. I however no virtually nothing about him, so please don't flame me. Bizarro Superman always seemed like a neat concept to me though. HOWEVER, in spite of my lack of enthusiasm towards Superman, I DO want to see this movie, and that is saying something. And it's nice to see Singer just getting more and more respect, but it would be interesting to hear what he thought of X3.
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Yeah the guy made some films that were solid, but none of them were great save for US and that was good do to the writting and not Singer. UIt seems like the Xmen has to come up. Singer made Xmen 1,2 decent and got better, but X3 was good as well. i don't know where all the hatred of x3 came from, especially with harry.
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I agree 100% with Prior Walter...that chick is NOT hot! Too skinny and her hair looks matted to her head...YIKES!She still isn't as busted as Kirsten Dunst though.
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has been very lucky with the projects that have come his way. I agree that it was the writing that made Usual Suspects so good, as well as quite the ensemble cast, breakout roles for many of them. I don't think Singer is a slouch, but I don't think his direction is all that spectacular. Of course, putting together good teams to work with is part of directing but I don't think he really has a master's flair for visual storytelling. i also don't understand the venom directed towards x-men 3, unless you happened to hate the first 2 films. I thought it was on par with the first x-men movie. it had most of the same flaws. x-men 2 was better than both of the others, but what are you gonna do. the franchise was far from perfect from the beginning, i'm glad that they managed to scrap together a film that worked with the previous 2 installments despite the problems they had getting the production off the ground.
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He probably thinks it sucks, becuase it obviously did, and you'll never hear him say that...it's not the Hollywood way.
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of Superman? Previous tv or movie versions? I'm still going to hold back on giving an opinion of Kate Bosworth as Lois cause i want to be fair minded, but i'm still a little worried. Nonetheless, a little over 2 weeks to go and i am breathless with anticipation. BTW, Harry when you suck up you do it to the max and when you rip someone, same thing. As Spock said, you really have to govern your emotions. Take it easy, between that and your weight you'll have a coronary before you hit puberty.
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... sad, sad, sad. The X3 negativity is shed in a new light now, but at least it makes sense. And you know what? I don't blame you one bit. I really don't. After all my time on this world, I've finally accepted the truth of the phrase "It's not what you know, but Who you know that counts." Hard work and talent don't count for shit if you don't kiss the right ass, marry well or choose the best parents.
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I like that he screwed X3 to do this. ANYONE would have done the same because a new big Superman movie with the possibility of two sequels is TOO GREAT an opportunity to pass up, especially when you know you can use Donner's movie as a kind of template to get you up and running. From what I've read I have a strong feeling I'm gonna like it. The haters are the people who want 90mins of action and no substance. Superman should NEVER be like that.
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.... for Northstar of Alpha Flight! I'm calling it here and now. The true geeks on this board will know why.
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the animation. jesus christ dude.
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So Harry's allowed to be disembowelled, chopped into little pieces and, worst of all, Tom Cruisified, without anyone complaining, but the moment a horny midget starts humping his face all of you geeks get yourself all a-lathering. You should be ashamed. It's people like you who make those who happen to be into the groins of vertically-challenged wrestlers being thrust into their face repeatedly, want to stay permanently locked in the closet. Well fuck it, Harry's inspired me. I too am into Midget Facial Humping. And I'm PROUD of it too!
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now theres an image permanently engrained into my memory forever. the internet has a habit of doing that, just like tubgirl.com
^please dont click on tubgirl.com, this isnt reverse psychology I REALLY mean that. : D
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Jeez, I got to that point in the interview, and it felt like Harry was kissing Bryan's ass like crazy all of a sudden. Like "Bryan, don't be mad at me, I never said that, THEY all said it, not me, not me, I never did!" Harry, it's OK, we all know you're gay! hahaha. That's a joke. I'm gay myself. Gay all day. In the words of Eddie Murphy WHOOOOO WHOOOOO!!!!
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Remember in that extended Superman 2 cut, where they have the little boy from the town try to escape on a horse to "get help," and Zod gets mad that someone disobeyed his commands so Non throws that red siren after the kid which kills him off screen? Some woman cries that he was only a boy, and Ursa laughs "he'll never be a man." God that fucking freaked me out when I saw it! Unless the movie was JAWS, it was not allowed to kill children! But seriously I think shit like that was too disgusting for Superman (me being like 7 or 8 at the time). Throw a kid down Niagra Falls, crush another one's skull with a siren...you know come to think of it Superman 2 was a little sadistic. And to make it worse the kids in Superman 3 and 4 were the ones I WATNED to see die. Ahem, so anyway, does Lois's kid get killed? Does her husband? Will Lois be available for Superman in a sequel, or what? Because if she's not, Brett Rattner will have her kiss Jason Marsden and blow him up, thus wasting the love triangle. He'll then have Superman kill Lois and leave future movies with nowhere else to go with the love story which was arguably the only pathos that mattered, but only after he has Lois kill Perry White in a dramatic scene that's actually the most exciting in his movie but doesn't actually advance the plot any.
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that animation is fucking piss funny. oh, and superman. whooo!
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Seeing a midget Jack Black brutally rape Harry (and Harry enjoying it) is something that I'll never be able to cleanse my mind of.
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Dang Harry! My girlfriend just saw it and is so disturbed by it, that it's gon' be months before we do the whole reverse-cowgirl thing.
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I get the Northstar gag... Should I just kill myself now to end the geekiness?
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Damn, that voice, those endless gams, those short skirts...whew. There will NEVER be a sexier incarnation of Lois Lane, either animated or live-action.
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Although I gotta say, the midget Jack Black is permanently tatoo'd on my gray matter. Damn, son.
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in the movie. She's gorgeous, and plays the part well. Granted, everything else from Smallville tanked several seasons ago.
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where Superman Returns destroys Titanic at the box-office, and Byran Singer, Kevin Spacey, and Brandon Routh all openly discuss their homosexuality (if Brandon is in fact gay, who knows), on mainstream shows like Letterman, Leno, The View, and the Barbara Walters interviews. All this giving Harry the courage to come out of the closet. I hope you don't ban me Harry, but that corner animation is disturbing, and telling.
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At least he's playing it cool, and not mentioning his new gig at every single possible opportunity.
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I think one9deuce might have accidentally coined the perfect piss-take of the guy's name (with Lord Byron being King of Buggery and all). I'm willing to put it down to the Lawd working through your fingers when you made that typo.
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Stupid crap... what a stinkfest... What im really afraid of is hugh jackman said on leno that he thought it was the best of the 3 and I was told this guy is going to be producing wolverine... he's a great wolverine but if he's put in charge of some of the story for a wolverine movie, this could turn into shit. I dont want to see some kind of hammed up love affair for logan, and I hope they dont over do the shitty ninja idea. If your going to go that way dont make it another Elektra.
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ha ha, man that's hilarious!
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The newsgroups are a great way to fast-forward through a crappy movie that you are curious about, but don't want to pay to see. When you pay to see a movie, you are rewarding the filmmakers for producing it. I will pay to see SR, but not X3.
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...put the disgusting animation back up!
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WORD!
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Nuff said.
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There's a pretty big difference in a giggle and a chuckle.
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From what I saw on the screen, Hugh was right on the money. Best of the three, or at least tied with X2. I'm only stating opinion here, mind you, but X3 was fantastic.
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Did singer diss Batman/Bruce Wayne!... Imagine if the directing roles were reversed... Nolan/Superman, Singer/Batman... Which movie would be better? -_-
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Thanks, Harry! It's even more disgusting than I could've possibly imagined. Loves it!
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He just didn't see it on film. "And I had not seen the film (technically, I still haven't.)" Obviously it's a play on words and considering it was shot digitally... well you do the math.
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how anyone, with even the slightest interest in storytelling or film, not to mention a knowledge of the characters, (at least from the first two films) can believe that X3 was antything more than a blatant hack-job. Whatever little merit to begin with was completely ruined by studio influence, and Ratner is obviously one shit director, in a town full of shit directors. To think of it as "competent" or "passable" identifies you as a desperate simpleton. To call it "fantastic" however... you don't want to know what that makes you.
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.....is there any connection between Harry's new obviously disturbing animation and the fact that he's just had an interview with Bryan Singer; youknow, given the propensity for Superman Returns to spawn multiple gay jokes on AICN talkbacks? Oh, and misnomer, you're sicker than Harry for bringing up www.tubgirl.com. That is terrible. I mean just sick. www.tubgirl.com. I'm going to have to take an acid bath now after seeing that crap, and I'm not sure I'll be fine even after that! www.tubgirl.com. Actually, Harry's animation might not seem so bad after all, after one sees www.tubgirl.com. :D
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After the terrible Jurassic Park 3 and Terminator 3, I was expecting a total departure, but instead I got a package equal to X1. It had more action than X1 & X2 combined, and a great deal of the effects worked. My cinematic bone, of course, tells me it wasn't inspired, and that much of it played too simple (like we need the President saying 'My... GOD...' every five minutes). This isn't Spawn or even Batman Forever here, people. Save your venom for Fantastic Four & Daredevil. Or the upcoming Ghost Rider... But enough about Marvel, now is the time for DC to shine. Superman has been looking better and better each day for the past two months. The fact that it doesn't play like X3, but instead finds time to catch its breath, is interesting. It'll be even more interesting to see where all of that budget DID end up.
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It was the worst of the three? So he could NOT enjoy the best Memorial Day weekend ever? He could've thought the movie was shit and he would've still told you it was the best of the three. It's his job on talk shows to put asses in seats! Part of the contract. Dude's got a yacht to pay off, ya know.
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Come harry? Where;s the review? We know it's already written. Sure you don't have to had seen the movie already, it'll be nice to see it before you fill in the blanks of some scenes from the movie when you do see it.
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X3 was a good film. Yeah it had some problems like most films does, but damn if I and millions of others didn't enjoy it. X3 will still beat Superman at the box office. Yeah i said it, because if the one of the Greatest Amereican pop culture icons doesn't collect at least 300 million at the doemestic box office then X3 did beat it.
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Jackman shit or Routh shit?
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Honestly, ever since they started showing up the pages are taking longer to load on AICN. To all who may reply, my broadband and computer are just fine, thank you. Laus Deo
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Look, I'm not saying that "millions of people" SHOULDN'T have enjoyed X3, my girlfriend's students "LOVED" it, but they also "LOVED" Garfield 2. I take issue with that argument, it's the same logic that proposes box office numbers equal success (or failure), and that's retarded. X3 is a summer blockbuster popcorn action flick, granted. But if we're all going to just walk into a theatre with a blank mind, and then walk out of the theatre an hour and a half later just as blankly, why do we bother to differentiate at all between whats worthwhile and what's shit? Why bother to have an opinion at all? We should all be LOVING the Garfield trilogy. We should all be so lucky. I really, really wanted X3 to be good. I wasn't expecting it to change the world, or win any Oscars, I just wanted something that respected the quality and the continuity of the previous films. X1 and 2 weren't Shakespeare, but they were pretty respectable movies that raised the standard pretty high for film going nerds like me and most of the dudes who come to this site. X3 was a tragic waste of potential. I honestly wish it hadn't been made at all, and I certainly don't want to see X4. It was that bad, guys. It fucking poisoned the well for me.
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I'm not expecting anything new out of this film that hasn't been done before no matter how Harry tries to spin it. If this movie manages to be decent or merely tolerable, then it has failed on so many levels. X3 did what it set out to - finish the trilogy even if it wasn't related to the comics. Superman is played out. After all the comics, cartoons, Donner movies, Lois & Clark, Smallville, etc. Does anyone still care about him?
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A ccd chip the size of a 35mm gate. For those who don't know, the ccd on the Star wars films was the size of your finger nail.
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"In the terms of the essence of what I see in the comic series, I see myself respecting it." -- Of course you do, Bryan. Of course you do. Keep trying to convince yourself and the truth will just melt away.
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I think Supes is going to be real f%$cking good.
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I'm looking forward to this movie, actually deep down inside I am very very excited but I am trying to keep cool and not overhype the movie like I did with Batman Begins. I mean I love that movie now but hated that I had that dissapointed feeling after seeing it the first time in theatres. Just like Singer, I have confidence in this movie. Who knows, it could be well-received by the general public just like Titanic, not saying it will make that kind of dough but if he is making a pic that encompasses the same genre that Titanic had, it should garner a lot of traffic.
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Singer mentioned using the same lens that he had used on both Apt Pupil and X2. I saw Apt Pupil on HD on my HD TV and it was beautifully shot, I mean the quality just blew me away. I know Apt Pupil isn't as entertaining as The Usual Suspects, X-Men, and X2 but if any of you have an HD TV set and have one of the HDnet channels, try to look for Apt Pupil. Hopefully I can get X2 on HD-DVD and watch it on my HD TV.
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...yeah, riiiight.
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It was about on par with the first one. More characters than it needed, some dodgy wire-work, a few hammy performances, but overall an enjoyable superhero movie. Most folks who don't like it seem to be having trouble differentiating between "this movies was bad" and "this is not the way I would have done it."
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And Gotham City like New York City. But then I realize that they're not real cities (meaning Gotham and Metropolis, I've been to New York and Chicago so I know they're real).
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No, it wasn't.
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dstrbo1 ~ "I just wanted something that respected the quality and the continuity of the previous films." That it did, my friend, that it did. X3 was great and in ten years time, when you still bitching about it, I'll be here still singing its praises.
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If you're still talking about X3 in ten years, you seriously need to get out more. At least, you should get out and see better movies.
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It wasn't that bad. People complaining about it are just blowing shit out of proportion. And I used to read the comics all the time as a kid, including the Dark Phoenix saga and Days of Future Past, two plotlines that they cribbed for the movie. Why wasn't I upset? Because the first films didn't get it right either. In Harry's review he said a bunch of biased garbage about "Imagine you just made Dr. No and... bla bla bla.." I'm sorry but the original X-Men film wasn't Dr. No, and it wasn't very faithful to the X-Men comics either. About half of the casting was messed up beyond repair, some characters (Sabretooth) were completely ruined (and KILLED as well), there was plenty of horrid dialog (whatever that line Storm says to Toad that I've chosen to forget for example) and plenty of alterations to canon. X2 fixed most of mistakes (except for some unfixable casting decisions) but it still wasn't perfect. And then X3 comes along and people act like it's on the level of Elektra or Fantastic Four. Well it isn't, and pretty much any flaw you can name is present in the earlier films, right up to the shoddy wirework and lame WB teen drama feel of the Xavier school segments. The death of Cyclops is a legitimate gripe, but this is a MOVIE TRILOGY folks, characters might die. Professor X turned out to be alive (and the scene where he died was pretty spectacular) and how many times has Jean Grey died? That's what I thought. I thought we got a small trade off: Singer handled drama better, Ratner handled action better. But otherwise, X3 fit neatly into the world created by the first two films and probably isn't drastically different than what Singer would have come up with. He hasn't even read an X-Men comic so I'm sure he would have killed Scott anyway, or atleast relegated him to a handful of lines like in the previous film. If you want to blame someone blame Halle Berry for wanting a big role, and then blame the person that cast her. So cry it up fanboys, I got over my tears of how much X-Men was drastically altered from the comics in 1999 when I saw Singer's attempt.
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I can't remember where I read this but Singer was only a fan of the Donner superman movies and knew nothing about the comics or cartoon history of Superman. That's why everything in this movie sounds like rehashed ideas from the first two Superman films. So yeah he feels he's really respecting the character alright. To quote Stewie Griffin " Whatever helps you sleep at night bitch!"
I think hiring someone to make this movie who's not even actually familiar with the characters entire background is the first mistake Warner Brothers could have made. The 2nd is letting him make a quasi-sequel to the original two movies while at the same time pretending movies 3 and 4 never happened. Yeah that makes whole a lot of fucking sense.And I dare you to try explaining that to someone who's not up to date on it.The look you'll get from them will be priceless. This whole idea of Singers is really just downright stupid. I don't care if movies 3 & 4 were made by someonelse other than Donner and that they did suck that doesn't justify pretending they never happened. They should have just started this whole franchise over with no ties to the original movies at all. And also based it on the current comics or cartoon history which all the kids and the rest of us have been familiar with since about 1984. Not on some almost 30 year old movies that are completely out dated with the current established character.
Same was said for Singers X-men movies to. He didn't know anything about the characters until he started researching them for the movie. That's why most of them are hardly even recognizable after being translated to the screen from the books by him. He is constantly making the characters fit the story instead of the story fitting the already established characters. You just don't do that.
Another thing I don't understand is why these fucking guys think they have to throw some kind of radical new twist or idea on the characters in the movies in order to put their lil stamp on things. Why can't they just faithfully translate the movie from the books without adding entirely new shit to screw it all up. I don't expect every little detail to be faithfully translated. But just the basic essence of the character along with recognizable characters and faithful stories.Not having crap ideas like Superman's Love child or the same ol wacky,bumbling Lex Luthor with stupid sidekicks in tow from Donners movies instead of the shrewd Lexcorp Luthor from the books. And Etc.,.etc.,. I wanna see the fucking characters I know and are familiar with in these movies. Not someonelses interpretation of them.
Warner Brothers and these other comic book license holders need to be more strict in their characters translations to the silver screen instead of letting people piss all over the source material. I realize that their just in it for the money but their screwing themselves in the long run by letting letting someone come in and change everything for a movie of a character instead of doing a decent job of it and opening up the possibility of a whole franchise to cash in on. I realize in some cases the movies still make enough to do this regardless. Superman being one of them of course. But there are a lot more that have been made that just totally ruined any possiblilty of that happening. Such as Daredevil,Elektra,Hulk,Punisher,etc.,. And don't give me that shit about making changes to appeal to a wider audience. People who are not already fans won't know if something has been changed/dumbed down to try and please them or not so why even do it? Why not just keep things more true to the source material then and make us people who made these characters popular in the first place happy? You already have a winning formula that people like so why the hell would you let someone change what's already been proven to work? It just doesn't make sense. Why can't what's already been established to win us built in fans over who read the books and made this character popular not work for people who have never been introduced or are not totally familiar with a character before? Anyone want to explain that concept to me because I am just not fucking getting it.
But anyway, Yeah this movie will make all kinds of money and etc just because it is Superman. So WB will be happy and greenlight another one by Singer and crew. And my plot prediction for the next one will be about Zod and his cronies from the phantom zone being in it cause Singer is to bland to use something other than the Donner movies as references. You heard it here first people.Mark my words.
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Brandon Routh was with a girl and they were getting all touchy-feely and stuff. So, is he REALLY gay, just covering it up Troy Mcclure style? Or, is he actually straight?
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the first movie of the year to do so.
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on the other hand, superman will probably be 100% kick ass
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...and I have nothing against Bryan Singer or this production. However, even if Superman Returns gets more favorable reviews (probably) than X3 and makes more money (ehhhh, hmm... don't know about that... but possible) my appreciation... my utter joy of X3 will not be diminished in the slightest. Of all of the comic book movies that have been and will be made, I'm not here to crown one the king over them all or even to rank them in any way. Best wishes to SR, I say. In fact, make me as happy sitting in that theater as X3 did, and maybe I'll see it more than once. However, I can't promise I'll be there opening day, because unlike X-Men, Superman is just not a franchise I care that deeply about.
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I'd like to do a Nacho Libre on him. did I just type that?
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Neither person portrayed could endure such a rigorous workout without first dropping dead of a coronary.
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only with Harry and Singer and lots and lots of corn oil.
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As for the Usual Suspects, I used to be a huge fan of the film but I now realize it really wasn't all that well directed. 90% of the film was just shit Kevin Spacy was making up and there were no clues to that. It's like those Scream movies where you had no chance to guess who the killer was because they gave you no clues.
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As for the Usual Suspects, I used to be a huge fan of the film but I now realize it really wasn't all that well directed. 90% of the film was just shit Kevin Spacy was making up and there were no clues to that. It's like those Scream movies where you had no chance to guess who the killer was because they gave you no clues.
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Is way too pretty to be anything but a dodger. Would have been nice to see Harry ask Singer something about X3.
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Are you for real, Harry? Kate Bosworth is nowhere as sexy as Erica Durance, or Terri Hatcher before her. Geez! And as for Routh, well, he looked like a total beanpole at the MTV Movie Awards. Suffice to say that Keira Knightly has more muscle definition...
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As in derived from -finite-. And yes, spelt and spelled are both words.
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People bashing X3 and at the same time say they like X1 and X2 are full of shit- just like Harry. I like Superman, but even if you
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Anyone feel like betting?
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I have to disagree about SR sounding like it is a complete mess. From what I have been following it looks like the studio is smart to not interfere with Singer and company just like they did with Batman Begins. You can tell from the interview that Harry had with Singer and among other interviews and press Singer has done that he has a passion for Superman. I would like to hear your thoughts on why you think it is a complete mess.
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that singer turned fox down after the usual suspects, when they offered him X-men.
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outside of websites like these and geeks is there really any kind of mainstream buzz for this?I haven't noticed any....I have seen the trailer twice at the movies now and both times it has been eclipsed by other trailers. Once by snakes on a plane which is a great trailer....and the other time by pirates 2. I just have a bad feeling about it.I have been fairly harsh on the trailers so far as they have been awful but to be honest I really want it to be good. I want to love it but so far it looks terrible. and no one seems to be very interested in it.....
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from what I have been following, it
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comics. How do you put Colossus and Juggernaut in the same superhero flick and not have them share a scene together? Why introduce a character like Angel and reduce him to a plot device? Why kill the leader, the prototypical X-Man OFF CAMERA and not even have any of the principle characters give a shit? And that's not even scratching the surface. That's not mentioning the crap dialogue or the awkwardly innapropriate musical score. That's not even mentioning that as a movie it was completely unalive and edited by a blind monkey with Down's syndrome. The thing is, As an X-Fan, the movie sucked for me. And, at the same time, as a film/movie fan, it sucked for me. It was a let-down on every single level that I appreciate movies. It was a studio hackjob, and I wish it had never been brought into the world. Here, let me sum it all up for you: Bryan Singer originally intended X3 and X4 to be shot back to back, because he believed that the Dark Phoenix saga was such a rich story he could only do it justice in two seperate films. Brett Ratner on the other hand, didn't think the Dark Phoenix Saga had enough going for it story-wise to merit a whole movie being just about that, so he brought in the whole "cure" storyline to beef it up a bit. What does that spell? H-A-C-K. And a seriously tragic waste of vast potential. Look, we can all agree that this happens sometimes, right? Terminator 3, Aliens 3, what happened to the Matrix trilogy, Bat Nipples, etc, right? Well, the X-Men was the one comic-to-film that DID IT RIGHT, it was the one that mattered most. It had the farthest to fall, and thanks to the studios, Rothman, Ratner, and the Hollywood hype machine, it fell fucking hard. There's no coming back from this. If you liked it, that's great. I hope you'll live happily ever after slapping your knee every time you watch Vinnie Jones yell "I'm the Juggernaut, BITCH!" during your repeated viewings from here to eternity. Enjoy.
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I would agree with what you said, except for "Well, the X-Men was the one comic-to-film that DID IT RIGHT, it was the one that mattered most." I think all of the X Men films are flawed. The ball was already dropped before Ratner got to it.
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Okay, people.
Superman Returns is a movie. The first two Superman movies serve as a vague history. That means they can pay homage to it by using Brando, that means that they can set it in current day, and that also means that not every fucking line of dialogue used in S1 and S2 are going to be paid attention to. What we're getting is a Superman movie where we don't have to hash over his oft-told origin yet again. There's simply no reason to go into it. Everyone knows the basic premise of Superman, why do we need it again? We don't! S1 told it well enough that Singer shouldn't be confined to telling it again. It's that simple. Don't get pissed when Lois doesn't look like a drunk hag who can't stop chain smoking long enough to drink her fresh-squeezed orange juice, either! Jesus, you people are pissy!
As for X-Men 3, yes, it was terrible. Yes, I am a fan of the comics, and no, that doesn't matter. It was bad. It was bad as a movie, and it was bad as a comic movie. It wasn't Fantastic Four bad... it wasn't Batman & Robin bad. But it was at least so bad that I will never buy it on DVD, nor will I go see it again in theatres. Anyone who has seen it should know why. -
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The idea that interested me the most was Harry's idea about a 1938 take on Superman that involved robots and shit. Can you guys imagine if they made a film with the feel of the Fleischer cartoons? It would be like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow... put Paul Dini or someone in charge of that script! Lex Luthor, Brainiac, and Superman's pal Jimmy... Yes. THAT would be a cool movie!
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The idea that interested me the most was Harry's idea about a 1938 take on Superman that involved robots and shit. Can you guys imagine if they made a film with the feel of the Fleischer cartoons? It would be like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow... put Paul Dini or someone in charge of that script! Lex Luthor, Brainiac, and Superman's pal Jimmy... Yes. THAT would be a cool movie!
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they're full of flaws, but they got more right than wrong. I didn't hate X3 because it wasn't perfect, I hated it because it was an absolute failure on every level. X1 was the movie that introduced a whole new GENRE- superhero movies taken seriously, which if you think about it, was quite an accomplishment considering how low the bar had been set by that time (I refer you again to the aforementioned bat-nipples). And the box-office reflected this success. Do you really think we would have seen any of these other Marvel properties produced if X1 had tanked? Not that that's saying much, considering how terrible a lot of them have turned out to be. X3 was a complete reversal of this momentum. The Studios sabotaged it's production because they're in the process of basically strip-mining the demographic. X3 has proven that quality doesn't put nerd bums in seats anymore, Hype does, which is why Ghost Rider is getting made, which is why every Marvel movie from here on out is going to make Daredevil look like Empire Strikes Back. Mark my words. The dream is dead.
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Grudge! Yeah grudge!
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Blade was out before X-Men, and yes it was popular. And I still cosign with llac9, every flaw you can come up with in X3 has some equivalent flaw in X1. We can all agree that X2 was the best of the trilogy and got the closest to what we wanted to see, but let's not gloss over the crappiness of the first X-Men compared to its potential.
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including what you said about X3. The studio was more interested in making it a pseudo event, make money and get it out of the way. Yes, I agree with pretty much everything you posted- except with your last sentence- "The dream is over". You
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IamTheSisko got it quite right a few posts up ... this movie is not dependent upon the first two Superman films. A whole generation of people are out there who have never seen the Donner films, neither might they care to. But because we are in a golden age of comic book movies, where the important ones are actually being paid attention to and not injected with camp, and because Superman is quite frankly one of the most recognizable American icons, they will go see this movie. Even if they're just curious to see the special FX and how well they make a man fly after getting a peek watching Keanu do his take in the Matrix trilogy. Nobody's going to be left in the cold because they didn't watch S1 and S2. Those that have watched them will just have a little more insight, maybe a little deeper respect for the style of the movie. So the movie, for that reason, is far from being "a mess". It seems like it knows where it's going and there hasn't been a negative review yet out of those that have had early screenings. I agree that some of the trailers have been lackluster, but that doesn't say anything about the movie. There are movies that have had wonderful, exciting trailers, and then sucked in the theatre. And vice versa. So I'll reserve judgment until I see it. Which, now that I have just bought my advance tickets, will be at 10PM on June 27th. I love night-before premieres.
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that some filmmaker comes along 10-20 years from now and reboots X-Men. X-Men the Animated Series presented a fully fleshed out X-Men universe in the first season alone, and I'm not sure how the running time of that season compares to all 3 X-Men films but it has to be comparable. This shows that it can be done and when filmmakers can't translate the source material adequately its just lazy filmmaking that no excuse can justify. I don't think X-Men 3 was a great movie by any means, it's a fun mindless summer flick at best. But like I said, I was over it when Singer got it about 50% right in 1999. Until someone gives us a new set of movies, maybe 3 hours each with more faithful versions of the characters and casting to reflect it, better character development and better action sequences, I am half satisfied with the trilogy as it stands.
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The only person I know that is buzzed about seeing this flick is a secretary at my office. No matter what is said - although she is now admitting that Superman is too skinny - she wants to see the flick. Of course, this is the same secretary who found *Batman Begins* to be "boring". If you want to read something funny, look up the summer movie preview of the Sacramento News & Review. They ripped the film in such a humorous way. But as for the previews, I can attest that on opening day for *X3*, the theatre I was in, *Snakes on a Plane* got a giant reaction whereas *SR* didn't generate hardly any responses. There was a boo, but it didn't come from me (I swear!). And that showing had a bunch of comicbook fans in it, based upon all the talk I overheard before the flick.
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I want to see Superman fight Lex, I like the back and forth stuff between Superman and Lois. I can't get enough of it. You can't just start us in the middle of the Superman universe, I think Bryan picked a good place to restart. we have to develop an interest for these characters. wait for the sequels.
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I don't know what theater you were all in that got reactions for that piss poor Snakes on a Plane trailer, it was uncomfortable silent during and after that trainwreck of an attempt to be funny..
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So we can confirm that it seems to be official... THERE IS NO HOPE FOR IT... it seems as though they built Bumblebee as that car they showed previously... because reports are there is an already constructed Bumblebee transformer robot on the set of the new movie... translation: no turning back. Officially dog shit? I was hoping for the best. Now I can finally move on. I'm such a geek. Back to the Superman talkback...
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You would be too if you had to explain to your girlfriend/s & coworkers what SR is about and you liked the other versions of Superman out now. Relax. Mess doesn
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I don't think we should have to 'wait for the sequels' for this movie to be what it is supposed to be. How hard is it to make a movie that can stand on its own? And I still recall Bryan Singer saying that he didn't like superheroes who could just arbitrarily fly. Sounds like a good call putting him in charge of Superman.
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I can't see how true fans would not love to see updated version of the classic battle between Lex vs. Superman with modern technology. I think you people who thinking it's gonna be just like the the Donner film are seriously underestimating Bryan Singer's creativity. People are quick to forget how different and original the X films were.
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I have to take a moment and congratulate this round of TBers. You all, by comparison, have had some relatively stable and reasonable discourse. True, there's still the Fanboys out to say that something will be terrible based on very little. There are also those who resort to all or nothing positions with no hope for middle ground. There's all of that. But I was all set to go into this and once again rail against the sheer idiocy on display, but I've found very little. I've enjoyed reading this talkback (gasp, shock, horror). If it would only last....
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Go figure.
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Zooch, I don't know what you mean by "true" Superman fans. There are so many eras and incarnations to speak of, I find it extremely narrow-minded to even consider there to be a "true" Superman fan. I mean, I get probably 90% of the Superman titles that DC publishes, I love the first two films in their own right, and the animated series from Dini and Timm is great. But I can't stand the old George Reeve stuff, Superman 4 was atrocious, and forget Lois and Clark! The truth about Superman is that his character has endured through various incarnations over the years, different versions of both Lex and Superman.
Now. To claim that any "true" fan (whatever that might mean) would love to see Lex and Superman fight with modern technology, well, that's a little presumptious. Sure, I want to see Kevin Spacey as Luthor, but let's be honest here, we have seen Lex and Superman battle it out far too often. I would have personally liked to have seen Lex be a powerhouse pulling strings from behind the scenes. I'm not a huge fan of "greatest-criminal-of-all-time" Lex. I would have liked to see Brainiac or Metallo or maybe... uh. Wow, I get most of the comics, and even I can't name Superman's villians. Well, there ya go! Superman really does have the lamest gallery of villians. As for Bryan Singer's creativity, I don't think he used any of it on X1 and X2. The egg beater on top of the statue of liberty was from an old 60s X-Men comic, and nothing in X2 made me think Singer was being creative, either. In fact, I've been disappointed by all three. The Usual Suspects was great, but that's about all I can say for Bryan Singer. And the back and forth between Superman and Lois is more played than Gambit and Rogue's yo-yo relationship.
Gwai Lo, X3 was mindless, but not fun. I was bored out of my skull.
YackBacker, I find your logic is flawed, but only as much as mine. Lois and Lex are at the heart of the Superman mythos. One may arguable attribute Superman's success to Lois and Lex. After all, Lois represents, for Superman, all that is worth saving in the world. Lex represents all that is wrong with the world. Both are obsessed with Superman. They are love and hate. To take them away might be a problem. The important thing to remember is that Lex is by far the most interesting Superman villian ever created. Sure, Batman Begins did things differently, but since when does Superman have someone as cool as Ra's Al Ghul? The only one who comes close is Lex. Unless you want to be bold and try to make Parasite or something actually cool, I call Brainiac to the table. And even then, I think Lex should be around. It's true that a superhero is only as good as his villian, and Lex is pretty much the only really good villian (aside from Brainiac) that Superman has. Even Doomsday was boring. -
Bryan singer lacked whatever creativity he may have had, while he was ruining the X man franchise. He made superheroes BORING! Daredevil Was superior over X1 and X2. Too bad Brett Ratner didn't Get all 3. He would of knocked them all out of the park with his Passion for comics and his visual style. I stood up and Cheered. SOMETHING, I never do
During the Golden Gate Bridge scene. As for the Pheonix I hated the cartoon version. I haven't been that on the edge of my seat in years, During Jean Grey, Professor X and Magnetos compelling standoff. Yes he died, with the help of the coolest special effects ever. Brett Ratner was in a Zone. He nailed it. Now Singer has the Audacity to touch a Super Heroe ICON!? This will be a Huge cinematic Flop. I loved the Superman Movies and if you can't do it right, Then don't do it at all. OH well, unlike you film moguls out there I still got Smallville. I'll catch Superman Returns next year on HBO. -
Sure Superman has fought Lex before many times, but he's never fought him like this, not on this scale. Lex is right for this film. If we have Brianiac or other villains, I do believe earlier scripts had Zod in them but they wisely cut him out, because it would take away from the main focus of this film, which is Superman and his Return.
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Doomsday/Superman in James Cameron's '09 Superman Reborn would outgross the Spidey films. The said villain is as powerful as the Hulk on steroids. He'd own on the screen.
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It takes real courage in this forum to stand up and proclaim what you really think, especially when you're already living with such an obviously debilitating handicap. Props.
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I always though Marvel had the better characters. Hulk, Spiderman, Wolverine, Galacticus heh. I mean Aquaman can talk to fish? Green Lantern's ring's power runs out in 3 minutes. Clark Kent is Superman when he takes his glasses off. Wonderwoman spins into her costume in a blase of light and has an invisible airplane and a 'majic' lasso. I mean, come on. Anyways, I am glad they are making comic books into movies that I can watch and not have to read/imagine. I hope they all get made...
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You know it. Your friends know it. Even your momma knows it
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THE GOOD THINGS WERE: Great story, great direction, heartfelt moments matched with outstanding action, perfect fit to go alongside Superman 1 and 2 albeit on a bigger scale, Routh was brilliant, Spacey was brilliant, Bosworth was surprisingly great, effects just left me in awe, the score was excellent with tones from Williams as well as some memorable updates, etc. etc. etc.
THE BAD THINGS WERE: Superman's costume was a shade too dark. The S was too small. His curl was a bit too much. He was a couple of years too young. So yeah, I HATED IT.
OKAY... I didn't see it. But this is what the over-sensitive fanboys have been harping on (as far as the bad things) for months now. Why are you guys so afraid of change? Why don't you understand the film industry? Why do you think it's smart when you say that Transformers was made just to make a profit? EVERY movie is made to make a profit. Why judge a film based on a couple of images you've seen? Why can't you understand that the adaptation of comics to film cannot follow every little detail to a tee? Why can't you understand that, while you are a part of a good demographic, there is still 90% of the public that studios have to please and relate to? Why do you like Bruce Campbell so much? Why do you hate on James Cameron after making Titanic, and then jump back on the bandwagon when he is attached to a genre sci-fi flick? Why are you the way you are? Why can't you enjoy movies a little bit more rather than being so hypersensitive on every little detail? Why do you rag on Transformers when you haven't even seen one snip of film? Why? WHy? Why? Why do I post here????????? -
This Superman returns from a five-year absence to find the love of his life, Kate Bosworth
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I was excited to see this movie until I heard Parker Posey was in it. Everything I've seen her pop into I find obnoxious and the film ends up being disapointing... Scream 3, Blade 3, etc. The way she carries herself in movies ust comes off like some high obnoxious coked up junkie tragic mess.
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This TB is turning out to be the battle of the publicists...
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So THERE, Knugen! In point of fact, X3 rocked! As in the modern sense of the term!
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That's why it was so depressing when she was incredibly horrid in Blade 3.
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... but he has lousy villains! I laughed at the guy who wanted to see Metallo. Basic robot-with-a-human-brain... how many times has that been done? Brainiac. This whatever has been retconned so many times, I do't know what the hell he's supposed to be anymore. I suppose the version from the animated series might work, though... but he's still too much of a "computer that takes over the world" for my tastes. Luthor works best as a "behind the scenes schemer" which is why Kevin Spacey's Gene Hackman imperonation ain't gonna fly. What other villains does Supes have? The phantom zone baddies? Been done. Doomsday? That's just so '90s! Terra Man? Now THAT would really be laughable! I can't even think of any more, his villains are just so forgetable.
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So their only options are Kryptonite weilding Lex Luthor, the Krypton villains and ridiculous aliens/robots. That's what sucks about this being a sequel, they can't do General Zod and his crew again.
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"People say Lex works best from behind-the-scenes" I disagree. Superman has battled Lex one-on-one several times in the comics with success. Battlesuit Lex took on Superman one-on-one all the time. Spacey said in the interview he did not watch the original movie to prepare cause he wanted to make the role his own way.
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...PERIOD! A lamer bunch of idea-abortions you will never find in all comicdom (Well, maybe Mr. Mind, but he was meant to be ludicrous). And "battlesuit-Lex"... c'mon kid, stop sniffing glue.
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Yeah, and nor did Spacey watch Smallville to see how Lex SHOULD be portrayed today. And so it goes... I mean come on! His goal is monopolizing real estate? How lame is that? That's an outdated taken on the character by a good 25 years. Had Warners had a brain, they would have given this property over to Christopher Nolan - or at least a director working along with Nolan - to do a whole contrast between the properties of Superman and Batman. Had they had a brain, they would have rebooted Superman. But they didn't. So why are you people willing to part with your money to reward Warners for doing a half-assed job? Would you do the same if Batman were half-assed as in more of the same like *Batman & Robin*? No. This site back then went toe-to-toe with Warner Bros. over that stinkfest, and rightfully so. Today, its sucking up to Warners because Bryan Singer isn't Rothman or Ratner yet Singer has as much contempt for the original comics as did Tim Burton. Why are they getting a free pass over it? Ask yourselves that. Does this flick look anything remotely like say a Paul Dini treatment? No.
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Jun 12, 2006 10:59:36 AM CDT
Superman Sequel should feature either Brainiac, Zod or
by r.c. the "wise"
Darkside! Ron Pearlman for Darkside baby!
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And are we trying to avoid another Star Wars debacle by not reviewing the film too early? What happened to the days of "some guy slipped me a note and I went up the back stairs and was frisked by a ninja while some men in sunglasses set up a laptop for me..."???
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Here's to an epic Lobo-Superman throwdown in "Superman Alwats Returns Twice"...oh, and again, X3 was complete garbage, and people who like it have no taste in quality film
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'nuff said .
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... and all that. You X3 haters can insult and belittle all you want, but the opinions of hyper-critics don't matter a hill of beans to me. I had a great time at the theater, and I think you're jealous... you didn't allow yourself to enjoy it because of the spoilers you sought out and the expectations you had for it. For two years I've been looking forward to X3... and that's it. I haven't spent two years thinking to myself I can't wait to see X3 so I can see sentinels trash New York, Phoenix eat a star and Apocalypse make an appearance after the credits. No, I went to see X3, not what I hoped X3 was.
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... who'd never work in a two hour movie. WAY too much complicated backstory, plus the problem of a ridiculous supporting cast. I mean, do you REALLY wanna see a live action Vermin Vundabar? They worked great in a 30 minute cartoon, though... especially that last ep of Justice League with the Supes vs. Darkseid smackdown!
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... I agree Kate Bosworth is all wrong for this role. Not that she's ugly, as some geeks here seem to think. She's definitely not. My problem is she looks and seems so damn fragile, like one of those bone china figurines that'll crack if you just walk by them. Lois should have a toughness about her which I just don't see coming from Ms. Bosworth.
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"and people who like it have no taste in quality film." I
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Haven't you seen the preview? Lex wants to do more than that, he wants to be god. As he says in the trailer Lex is angry Superman has all this power and does not share it with mankind or something to that effect. I love Smallville portrayal of Lex, but that Lex eventually goes mad and becomes the evil criminal Lex with see in this film. Smallville also has a ton of homages to the Donner film, yet no one ever seems to complain about that. Lex Luthor was often potrayed in the comics as a white collared criminal and before that an evil scientist.
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You do know he's bringing back the Joker next time around. No one seems to mind about that, cause who wouldn't like to see Batman fight his greatest enemy the Joker again.
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too glossy.
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...can you imagine the frustration of even the lowest level copyboy at Penthouse, having to mark up Harry's articles? :-)
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"Geeks Gone Wild - Cannes Film Festival Edition!"
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Like it or not all you whiners, this movie will do well financially and will will do very well with the critics very much like Batman Begins.
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I can only go by what I've seen in the previews and heard in interviews. I'm not so quick to assume without seeing it first. From what I've seen and heard Lex is pissed and out for revenge. You could say Superman is a catalyst for this new vicious and dangerous Luthor. He's is out for blood. You see there are certain parts of the Donner films that have become so ingrained in the public's memory that they have now become part of the Superman mythology. Singer loves the originals, and simply chooses not just flat out ignore them. Remember it's not a direct sequel, you are assuming you know what Singer is going to be using from the Donner mythology.
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Yeah, why can't they come up with a cool villain for superman? I mean, yeah, its powerful but it aint that hard. It's about character. I think he needs a really kick ass magic villain, something dark and spooky that confuses the fuck out of him. Like an evil Dr. Strange. Superman is just a slightly above average intelligence guy. A bright creative baddie with freak ass powers could really fuck up his world. He needs that, and then I'd give him some kind of hot seductress chick who has the hots for him but you know, superman won't go for it, so she could be have mind control powers that she got from some device she stole from the CIA. Maybe she's a government agent. You know, supes big baddies are always just generic DCU baddies, which is why they are never put into his rogues. DC, you can have these ideas for free- Evil Dr. Strange + hot CIA chick who wants to control and manipulate superman "for the goverment" but really wants to get into his pants. Yeah, I'm bored and I'm rambling, wanna fight about it?
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...that the Prankster is a lame villain!?!?
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This looks good enough for me.
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Routh is like Reeve's Superman, but wussier. Reeve was able to dodge that bullet fairly well with his sensitive Superman, but Routh + the script seems like the Bendis writing vulnerable nuevo Superman. Bosworth is also incredibly unconvincing as an adult much less a mother and journalist.
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villains - some that could use updating. The worst of the villains are, of course, all of the more recent ones like Doomsday. Darkseid is a great villain on the scale of mythic/could be Lovecraftian; Silver Banshee is an interesting mystic villain with a femme fatale edge, Luthor of course is the grandaddy of all supervillians; Braniac is pure sci-fi; Parasite is play on the nature of envy and greed; Mr. M is pure abstraction and comedy, but also incredibly menacing when used effectively (for the same reason demon possessed cinema kids are scary); Metallo is a tragic villain in the Faustian sense; Bizzaro the Frankenstein monster. Superman has TONS of great villains! The problem is they not often written well, like most comic books. You get quantity, not quality.
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when it was called Smallville. As I said, we've seen it already. Singer will probably do it better and more stylishly, but that don't make it new.
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They are not starting fresh all over again. Clark comes back to the Daily Planet around the same time Superman resurfaces, but Clark is so insignificant no one really notices. I hope you worrying about weither it's a sequel or not doesn't hinder your ability to judge the movie on it's own merits.
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Nine of the best reviews for any film this year, PERIOD:
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=14086&page=38&pp=15
Not.One.Bad.Review.
I smell a fresh serving of crow for many on these boards and the REAL Return Of The King in two weeks time.
Apologize much?
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Sorry but Kate Bosworth has to be the worst possible choice EVER for Lois Lane. Lois was never drawn or ment to be a fragile, skinny, blonde featured type of Woman. All us normal guys out there who appreciate the curves in woman have to believe that Terri Hatcher was the most sexiest Lois Lane to date. Erica Durrance is pretty fine herself, anyone seen Smallville? Dana Delaney in the flesh could have pulled it off quite well. Branden Routh is almost perfect For Clark Kent but sorry from a true fan of Supes Kate as Lois is all wrong.
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Where he's not subtly pressured to praising it like Gone with The Wind after being given awards show-caliber accomodations. -
eew-wuh.
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D.I. generally refers to "digital intermediate"...not "direct image".
different things.
what? im just sayin.
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I like how so many people say that there was uncomfortable silence when a trailer played. How the fuck do you know what everyone is thinking? I'm pissing myself in anticipation for Superman, and did I let out a hoot or whisper something to my friend about how amazing the trailer looked when I saw it in the theatre the other day? No. I was...SILENT! Noooooo it can't be!
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Just like Fox did with X-Men TLS, I think the WB is going to use all thier marketing muscle to get the product in the consumer's mind. As a marketing professional I was very amazed in how Fox generated so much interest during the week the movie premiered. I mean they had a lot of ads prior to that week but everywhere you looked at during the week it involved X-men this and that. And they knew where to target also. As a person who works in sales, I'm looking to see how they market this during the last week of June, as a fan of comicbook adapted films, I'm soo looking forward to this movie.
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Thanks, Harry. It was fab.
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first i was afraid...but now the movie looks good
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That was one of the most fun interviews I've read in a while. Also the last couple weeks movie wise have been so boring!!! I can't wait for this movie and Pirates and Scanner Darkly coming out right after. I don't understand the blind hate for this movie, it looks fun and that's what matters right? If you love X3 great and I've heard many defend it as "fun" and etc. But then they go on to bash SR I don't get it. SR looks fun and better produced so shouldn't you all be excited that you have two kick ass comic book movies in summer? I mean personally for me I thought X3 was shit with one good scene that was mentioned above, the Jean vs. Prof. X mind battle in the house where X let himself be killed, that was great! Too bad it was followed up by horrible crap. I for one have been slightly bored by this summer and I am looking forward to SR and other films to finally kick start the summer movie craze.
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OH, excuse me fror falling asleep while reading that boring interview. SR looks like a retread of the first one in 78.it wouldv'e been much cooler had he fought Darksied (played by Micheal clarke duncan.)instead he..returns only to find out that lois has a kid..could it be his? and lex luthor is up to his same ol schemes from 78 as well..oh how original. i just might pass on this one. atleast WreX-3 took more of a chance content wise. i think singer is just playing it safe,so that a sequel is gauranteed.hopefully it will have cooler villians (y'know, with superpowers??)
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Is the videogame more exciting than the movie?
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DID Halle told him to kiss her black ass during the filming of X2?
other than that, a good job..yeah..kissing his arse. you can get off your knees now. *AHEM*
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God Harry, i appreciate your tolerance but your emberrasing those of us who are gay. Screw chick flicks i want superman punching through beams like popeye!
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Whoo-hoo.
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this movie is such a chick flick!
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I don't claim to be able to read minds but i have seen the trailer at the movies twice now.....once alongside pirates and once alongside snakes on a plane.....after snakes...well actually during and after the audience were laughing and clapping.....when jack sparrow appeared in the pirates trailer people cheered and clapped. Superman - silence. both times. dead silence. not one clap or even a murmur in the crowd. just silence. I pray the film is great but i do not see any kind of buzz of excitement for this film out there.I believe this mainly due to the fact that the trailers are terrible. The film for all we know is amazing. it probably is but those trailers do not do a good job at making it look special at all. it looks like a very standard run of the mill summer film. the trailer should have made people want to stand in their fucking seats and cheer. this is not an attack on the film as I said the film is probably great and I can't wait to see it. but I think whoever made those trailers has completely failed and the marketing has been terrible. when spider-man was 2 weeks away everyone knew about it...it was fucking everywhere and even people who don't follow this shit as closely as people who visit these kind of sites daily knew about and were planing on seeing it. That was my experience anyway...I mean the 56 year old mother of my friend had tickets in advance. ask around your workplace or ypur friends. not other movie geek friends but people in general and there is so little awareness of this film it is stupid. the thing should be everywhere...and not because of studio over hyping but the mass population should be so excited about this filsm release that you can't help but see and hear about it everywhere. but it just isn't there.i have a horrible feeling this film will do average business and with its 250+ budget it needs to be the fucking biggest film of the year and I just don't see enough people giving a shit.I hope to god I am wrong but I just don't see this film doping that well. I want it to be the start of a bunch of superman movies but I can't see it.
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Man I remember back in the day when this site reported on real news and not some tired interview from a smut mag. Bring back the days when this site was discovering new talents and not reporting on sorry news articles. Please aintitcool.com bring on a comeback
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This entire Brian Singer fiasco has been an elaborate ruse to distract from the real Superman movie coming to theaters, the first time a major studio has tried such a stunt. A Warner Bros insider has leaked that the film actually stars Bruce Campbell as the Man of Steel and Diane Lane as Lois. Lex Luthor will be played by Lance Henriksen, and newcomer Brandon Routh will play Bizarro Superman. Peter Jackson filmed it simultaneously with King Kong. Bryan Singer's new film, The Devil Wears Pradas, hits theaters on the same release date.
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The Donner homages that have been added to *Smallville* in the past two years were forced upon the show by the upper management at Warners. They didn't want *Smallville* straying too far from the film they wanted to make, aka Singer's rehash of the Donner films. That's why they also killed off Jonathan Kent's character, which was a major mistake in my opinion.
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So what if Nolan is bringing back The Joker for *Batman Begins 2*. Does anyone expect him to make whichever actor he casts (Paul Bettany or Christopher Eccleston) to ham it up like Ol' Jack did? No. They aren't going to use that take on the character. Yet this film resurrects the cheeseball Gene Hackman take yet without Hackman. There is a big difference. Enorme.
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"I'm Gay... no really gay... Did I mention that I'm gay?" Thanks for totally gaying up X-men to serve your own purposes. I must admit that Singer is a talented filmmaker but why does he feel necessary to reminds of what he does in his bedroom every three seconds. X-men was a gay allegory and Supes will be as well. Supes, of course, will be a gay dude with a kid sort of like that guy from Survivor who won the first one.
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http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman9lp.jpg
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Jun 18, 2007 12:28:48 PM CDT
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE OLD FUCKING POSTS
by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell
i remember when people were making fun of harry and bryan for laughing and i quote "like a bunch of gay ass school boys" lol i remmeber that.
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This film is for everybody. Well no it wasn't and, as for kids, I wouldn't let my kids anywhere near this shit fest.
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