June 5, 2006, 5:13 a.m. CST
I could've been a contender...
June 5, 2006, 5:18 a.m. CST
I keep waiting for Zombie's version of "Hello" or "Ballerina Girl." They sounded so good together on "Brick House!"
June 5, 2006, 5:18 a.m. CST
This sounds made up and random; whatever happened to him doing Wolverine? After Devil's Rejects, we should only expect awesomeness. Yes, House sucked, but it was his first, and Devil's is pretty much the greatest movie ever. Michael Myers = not as fun Jason, but whatevs, Zombie is a genius.
June 5, 2006, 5:31 a.m. CST
That whole gendre is plaaaaaayed out. How about something original?
June 5, 2006, 5:34 a.m. CST
Oh, and why not? Halloween has been dead since the introduction of a "gangsta" rapper in the series, and that "webcam" part which I still have not watched. And however bad the output of the thing that calls itself "zombie" is, it physically cannot be any worse than "House of 1000 Corpses". Or can it?
June 5, 2006, 5:45 a.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
. . . then go for it devil man!!! 2nd biggest self-proclaimed-savior-of-horror after Eli Roth. Hate hate hate. Bitch bitch bitch.
June 5, 2006, 5:54 a.m. CST
A re-imagining of HELLRAISER directed by Eli Roth?
June 5, 2006, 5:55 a.m. CST
but The Devils Rejects was one of the best horror films I've seen. I think I was so impressed by Rejects was the fact that it was his only second movie he directed, after 1000 Corpses. If each film he does gets better like 1000 Corpses to Rejects then I am extreamly excited to see the "re-imaginging" of Michael Myers.
June 5, 2006, 6:10 a.m. CST
by Nairb The Movie
I think this is the best news possible! Awesome Awesome Awesome!
June 5, 2006, 6:23 a.m. CST
June 5, 2006, 6:43 a.m. CST
but there's no doubt it was a beautiful looking and well made piece of filmmaking and if he can bring any of that care and attention to this, then we might actually have a Halloween sequel/remake/whatever that might be worth checking out.
June 5, 2006, 6:46 a.m. CST
If he can do good original work? Keep going with your own stuff, and stay away from stuff that's already been done. JMO, but I'd like to see what else he can come up with on his own. That's not to say that his first two films didn't borrow heavily from others, but in and of itself it was original. This is what we don't have - remakes/reimaginings we have plenty of. And while Eli Roth might be a putz, I loved Hostel. These guys aren't the saviors of horror necessarily but they're the only ones making good original films...
June 5, 2006, 7:04 a.m. CST
How can you replace Donald Pleasance as Loomis? Michael Myers did a dead on Donald Pleasance as Dr. Evil in the Austin Powers films. Can you imagine Myers as Loomis saying things like "Michael Myers is pure...EVIL"
June 5, 2006, 7:30 a.m. CST
There is no way he can do more damage than any of the sequels have done. Hopefully he doesn't mistake the film for a run of the mill slasher like the movie Scream did.
June 5, 2006, 7:42 a.m. CST
That Rob could do a fucking great job. That is all I've got to say.
June 5, 2006, 7:43 a.m. CST
...is that they aren't scary. They're just depressing. I guess that's a kind of horror, but not really the kind I'm into.
June 5, 2006, 8:22 a.m. CST
Like Mori, I didn't care at all for 1000 CORPSES, but thought DEVIL'S REJECTS was an awesome 70s grindhouse trip. If there's anyone working today who could bring something new to this tired franchise, it's Zombie. Anything's better than seeing our beloved Shape end up Abbott-and-Costelloing his way through embarrassing shit like FREDDY VS. JASON...
June 5, 2006, 8:23 a.m. CST
house's and the rejects both kicked ass. captain spalding and ottis were the best serial killers since mickey and malory knocks. they fucked halloween up along time ago so hopefully he can bring this thing back to life. o and zombies origanal music for house's kicked ass too. most you geeks dont know shit about music. "its fishboy"
June 5, 2006, 8:23 a.m. CST
Sure, I hope he doesn't fuck up the Halloween theme with some techno remix. But if he's able to do something in this Halloween remake with music like he did at the end of the Devil's Rejects with "Free Bird," then by all means, go right ahead. That was simply awesome. Remember, he is "re-imagining" Michael Myers, so I think it'd be quite interesting to see Mikey Boy slashing away to some Deep Purple.
June 5, 2006, 8:32 a.m. CST
Why, dear god in heaven, why?
June 5, 2006, 8:35 a.m. CST
Halloween is an unadulturated masterpiece. No one should remake it. Especially a filmmaker with a track record as sloppy as Rob Zombie. House of 1000 Corpses was a flaming pile of shit. Devil's Rejects had its moments - but stylisitcally couldn't be more different than Halloween. I have officially checked out as a horror fan. There is no hope for the future of the slasher movie is these trends continue. Big mistake.
June 5, 2006, 8:44 a.m. CST
I think michael Meyers is pretty soft core. I think this could be interesting. However.... another remake?? Geeez
June 5, 2006, 9 a.m. CST
by Some Dude
It's funny that the Halloween series will now have two resets.
June 5, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST
He was only given a month to shoot that thing. But it was an inspired cool piece of work. Rejects unexpectedly vaulted itself right into my favorites list... I always cheer for the underdog. As for the Freddy vs. Jason movie I remember viewing it as fear vs. hate theater... and interpreting it that way made it watchable to me. Rob Zombie gets a big stamp of approval from me to take a stab at a Michael Myers movie.
June 5, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
as for Laurie Strode? Anne Hathaway, Evangeline Lilly, Jessica Biel, or Katherine Heigel. For the LOVE OF GOD keep Jessica Alba away from this unless she is going to be choked by a telephone topless.
June 5, 2006, 9:19 a.m. CST
When was the first reset?
June 5, 2006, 9:22 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Remember when Josh Hartnett was the new Laurie Strode. Then they fucked it up with Tyra Banks and Busta Rhymes....
June 5, 2006, 9:26 a.m. CST
ever? In my lifetime? So whatever, let Zombie do it, can't make it worse than it is to start off with. Also Rejects was fantastic so my hopes are high!
June 5, 2006, 9:31 a.m. CST
I didn't take that as a reset. I just thought it was a cool sequal to the original, same character just older.
June 5, 2006, 9:39 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Yeah, but they did ignore everything before and just made a sequel to Halloween 2. They ignored 3 films and did not even mention Lauries daughter. But technically this Zombie move could be the 3rd reset. Since Halloween 4 was one a reset too. Whatever, I'm happy. I love the Michael Myers character and hope this can be a serious, straight forward movie with interesting deaths and no "Jason" style bullshit.
June 5, 2006, 9:53 a.m. CST
his wife Sherri Moon (Baby in the Corpses/Rejects movies) will have a role in this movie too?
June 5, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST
by Fireball XL-5
"Yall's asses don't know what death is!"
June 5, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
You know she will totally be in this movie. She could be a good Linda if this was a straight ahead remake. I dont have a problem with Sheri Moon though, she cracks me up.
June 5, 2006, 10:26 a.m. CST
by Karl Childers
Does anybody have any idea what his plot was supposed to be for that one?
June 5, 2006, 10:28 a.m. CST
That would be great, but I don't think he has that much to say with the casting with Dimension involved. If so I hope Sherri Moon's acting has improved. She is irritating when she cackles like a lunch lady cashier.
June 5, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST
by Childe Roland
As has been pointed out, every sequel (witht he possible exception of II) to the original has been shit. The character of Michael Myers had a lot of promise. He wasn't undead (at least at the start). He didn't have magic powers (sure he was tough to kill, but he didn't become superhumanly invincible until we realized that he (and Dr. Loomis!) survived the gas explosion at the end of II. He was just a kid who got all messed up and dedicated himself to killing. He worked out, got clever and adopted a mask as a symbol to strike terror into the hearts of his victims. Fuck...Myers is the Batman of movie slashers! So, sure, why not give him his "Begins?"
June 5, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST
Since I hate Zombie films. House Of A Thousand Corpses is one of the worst films ever made. Rejects while slightly better is terrible and morally offensive with annoying characters that we shouldnt be caring for. Still Ill see what he does with this.
June 5, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST
Yeah, I might not know "shit about music" but at least I don't defend Rob Zombie's illustrious music career. As for the movie, meh, I'll just download it and save my money.
June 5, 2006, 11:02 a.m. CST
It is more modern psychological suspense rather than 70's sadist ultra-violence. It needs to be remade, but with tact and not hardcore bullshit.
June 5, 2006, 11:07 a.m. CST
Michael Myers was evil, not insane. They are very different. Myers is calculating not on a random violent rampage for self gratification. Myers had a plan and he executed it.
June 5, 2006, 11:13 a.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
I thought he was above this remake crap. Guess not.
June 5, 2006, 11:27 a.m. CST
by Big Bad Clone
The first one, he's human. The second we question shit. The third has witches. And from there it gets fucking wierd about just what's going on. The H2O does shit. Then Resurrection makes H2O null and void. So, a re-imaging would just be par for the series.
June 5, 2006, 11:27 a.m. CST
Has he even finished writing this yet?
June 5, 2006, 11:33 a.m. CST
Ugh Rob zombie may be cool cause he has the last name zombie but that doesnt mean his music is that great or his 2 movies were that great to make him some mastermind who can just walk in and take some classic movie and remake it, nor can zac snider, michael bay or anyone else. i dont mind these remakes. but i still think they should be handled with the greatest of care adn none of them were that good. id like to see movies that are original, i know its hard to do these days, and have an inpact on the movie goers and have a long shelf life. the best way to do this is to stop making so many movies and make movies carefully and well written and far and few so when each movie comes out it's an event and stays in the theatre all summer long cause its so good. i dunno, in a perfect world i guess. LCG OUT!
June 5, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST
HO1KC (and I don't give a shit what the general consensus is) gets better with each repeat viewing. Even Rob sort of maligns it nowadays, but it's got a lot more going for it than 96.7 % of contemporary horror movies. Zombie just had too much time to tinker with it when it was in limbo between Universal and Lion's Gate - which is why it's so overedited in places. If he can continue to make the strides as a filmmaker that he made between HO1KC and REJECTS, I'm interested to see his take on it. I hope it's a total page one rewrite though. I don't want to see Zombie abandon his frenetic style just yet for something more calculatingly Carpenterish, but the chances of him doing anything resembling a straight remake seem slim. Taking the slick out of Halloween and going balls out with it could be great, but with the built-in fanbase the franchise has (which baffles me, as even the Carpenter original is overrated) and the unabashed Zombie hate out there - there's an element of this project that seems doomed by a lot of horror fans. But it's a no-brainer that this will pull in serious bucks for the same reasons - most people are going to turn out for ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN. The one thing everyone should dig is that regardless of your stance on Rob Zombie, he'll bring some integrity to a franchise that's turned into nothing but a mockery of itself. Hopefully it will turn out to be the horror equivalent of BATMAN BEGINS and reboot it with a real shot in the arm.
June 5, 2006, 11:40 a.m. CST
by R.C. the "Wise"
will be in it. Damn, even my girl says she's got a great ass for a white girl!
June 5, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST
michael myers would be tackling ZOMBIES, not rob zombie directing a film. but come to think of it, myers has never been that thrilling to watch, give me jason vs. zombies any day of the week.
June 5, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST
Per his myspace site (which was up on CHUD), "Okay here's the real deal for those of you who are confused. As I said yesterday - I am not making Halloween 9. That series is done, complete, over. But what I am doing is starting totally from from scratch. This is the new HALLOWEEN. Call it a remake, an update, a reimaging or whatever, but one thing that for sure is THIS IS A WHOLE NEW START... A NEW BEGINNING WITH NO CONNECTION TO THE OTHER SERIES. That is exactly why the project appeals to me. I can take it and run with it. I talked to John Carpenter about this the other day and he said, "Go for it, Rob. Make it your own". And that's exactly what I intend to do. Any questions? Go ahead and ask'em."
June 5, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...Carpenter was the remake king, I think his track record of more recent years renders any benefit of the doubt I might have otherwise extended to him null and void. I love the guy, warts and all, but I don't want to see him remake one of his own properties. The only thing I do want to see him involved in, really, is a sequel to The Thing where we get to see a new research crew run afoul of the shape shifting alien and featuring an appearance by a heavily bearded, pale and whacked out Kurt Russel...who's survived god-knows-how for 20 years in the arctic. You know that would rule. And props to Darksider for reiterating what a clever fucker Myers was in those original two films. He was so smart, he had a psychologist believing he was supernaturally Evil. He was the anti-Batman decades before that Prometheus ass clown ever turned up on Morrison's JLA run.
June 5, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST
Better news might be "They've decided not to remake Halloween or make anymore sequels." But since I was resigned to a world of endless HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION type sequels and since the Weinsteins have been supposedly wanting to remake it for a while now, I'm surprised to hear that it's someone who might actually do something interesting with it. I also think most people here are being unfair to The House of the One Thousand Corpses. Yes, it's a heavily flawed movie (mainly because of its protagonists) but it's so full of imagination and style I don't see how you can totally write it off. It's obviously inspired by all these '70s classics we love and yet at the same time, there's really nothing like it. DEVIL'S REJECTS was a huge leap for Zombie as a director, but the first movie was fun too and introduced all those great characters. You gotta love Captain Spaulding at gunpoint putting his hands up with two middle fingers in the air. Zombie has made some mysterious statements about this one, referring to it as sort of a remake, sort of a prequel and indicating in various ways that it will be very different from the original. Which is good if he does it well. A remake will never be as good as the original but I have faith in him to make it better than another fucking sequel. p.s. Whoever way up there referred to LL Cool J and/or Busta Rhymes as a "gangsta rapper" needs to go out and learn a few things about life before continuing in this forum. I mean come on man, ladies love cool james? You gotta be fuckin kidding me. Even I know that guy's not a "gangsta rapper."
June 5, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST
Halloween is a timeless film because it preys on our primal fears. No matter the decade or the period...it can be enjoyed for years to come. The horrifying beauty of halloween, texas chainsaw massacre and other films of the genre is that they don't rely on a bunch of present day period songs to pound you over the head with. Instead, they rely on basic terror and leave the music (usually used for cinematic effect) in the background. Let's hope zombie caters to the intelligent horror crowd because that's where the moneys at. Think about it: Would you rather make a film that scares the shit out of people and appeals to everyone yet maintains an intelligent terrifying storyline? That also begs to be watched every year on halloween and stays in peoples DVD collections? OR, would you rather have the same old shit of topless chicks and slipknot on the sountrack and stupid ass victims making rash and dumb decisions? Look at excorcist and silence of the lambs, both are smart and spooky films and are watched religiously. See no evil with a WWE wrestler....think some 15 old kid 20 years from now will become a fan of the film? No. More like the shining and other classic films. zombie has the chance to make a classic if he plays his cards right. He has experience now. We movie geeks (yes, all of you here) deserve a good scary movie. Don't you all agree?
June 5, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST
H20 killed what little enjoyment i was having with the series anymore. 8 was just an abomination. i liked zombies other 2 movies, and rejects showed an amazing amount of growth, but i think im just tired of this character at this point. especially if dimension is involved, it cant possibly be anywhere near as good as the first 4. and yes, i think 3 is quite good if you're not being a whiny bastard about it not having myers, and its certainly a better MOVIE than the 3 dimension offerings regardless of the title.
June 5, 2006, 1:04 p.m. CST
Poor mans muse for milking a tierd franchise. How long before we get 're-imagined' novels, like Daniel Steels 'Gone with the Wind?" Or, how about this one, Sum 41 re-imagines 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band'? Somebody pleeeaaase put an end to this moronic, useless, and talent-less waste of time. Is it any wonder filmakers are raiding foreign films for ideas? What every happened to creativity-to create something out of nothing??? Bad move for Mr. Zombie. Nothing is special once its been done. You cannot capture lightning in a bottle twice. Create your own special film history and stop raping the cinematic past, for that moves your from filmaker into the ranks of HACK.
June 5, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST
There. Its been over 5 years hasnt it? Time is ripe to 'Re-Imagine' that one. Somebody call Brett Ratner.
June 5, 2006, 1:16 p.m. CST
No that there's anything wrong with that. I'm not a fan of all the remakes and re-imaginings and whatever you want to call them that are coming out...but at least we can count on Rob to not make a PG-13 version with cute little WB actors getting stabbed offscreen...
June 5, 2006, 1:34 p.m. CST
The last seen was great. Like two stations would pull paid programming because some nut-case is screaming in the phone. I'm glad the damn masks ate 'em up!
June 5, 2006, 1:59 p.m. CST
It was the Bee-Gees, Peter Frampton, and an all-star cast. Look it up.
June 5, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST
by Darth Melkor
I'm kinda cool with this. I hate the idea until I found out Zombie was doing it. At least I know he'll make an effort to make it cool, unlike most directors these days. Each Halloween film has been worse than the one before it. And the last one finally killed the series.. Busta Rhymes kung fu fighting Michael Myers? WTF? Make us proud, Rob.
June 5, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
And if you can afford her and she wont be a horror snob, Rachel McAdams as Laurie.... She fucking did Red Eye, so she can't be too stuck up.
June 5, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST
...although I do think they should have called it something else as it has nothing to do with the series. It's a mean little bastard of a film, the likes of which you don't see anymore -- a druid concocts a plan to melt the faces of the children of America into a pile of goo, snakes and bugs with the help of Stonehenge, Halloween masks and television. And robots. Now that's just cool, no matter how you slice it.
June 5, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
Keep the orignal score and you got me there. I rather him do a sequel to Aliens or Predator. He gets horror, so maybe he would get those two. Devil's Rejects was a balls out fucked up movie. Loved it. True horror. Word.
June 5, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST
by Darth Melkor
Yeah it never should've been called Halloween. It should've just been Season of the Witch. Halloween 4 should've been Halloween 3. The film gets ripped on ONLY because it has "Halloween" in the title. It really is a creepy and unique movie.
June 5, 2006, 3:15 p.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Is not unfairly ripped due to a lack of Michael Myers. It has a creepy premise with poor execution and bad acting. I tried to rewatch it last Halloween when my friends came over and we all found it to be very boring. So poorly paced. But we all agreed it could be remade well if it got the chance. Again the premise is pretty fucked up. Let's melt kids faces with Halloween masks because they are trend whore retards who watch too much TV.
June 5, 2006, 3:16 p.m. CST
I'm not saying it's even in the same neighborhood as the original, or the same side of the equator, but why would you single that out as a bad slasher sequel? If you ask me it's one of the better ones in any series. What other slasher sequel is ambitious enough to bring back the original character 20 years later and show how the events of the classic movie we watch every Halloween have affected her life? Of course some of the other elements with the young characters are the typical "WB horror" everybody complains about (with a future academy award nominee in the cast by the way) but not as bad as the previous Halloween sequels. And then there's that truly great moment where Laurie has escaped and realizes, shit, do I want another 20 years of hiding out from this dickhead? That turning point is truly badass and I love that 20 minutes or so of chase at the end, the kind of thing Steve Miner is best at. What more anybody could want out of a part 7 I can't imagine (although I guess Wes Craven's New Nightmare is even more ambitious). I thought H20 was a good end to the series, so I'll pretend it still is.
June 5, 2006, 3:27 p.m. CST
might actually be real cool. Please no Rob Zombie music though. The movie'll probably work better with little or no music and just good (restrained) use of sound effects.
June 5, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST
then why are you interested in a remake at all?
June 5, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST
I never would have thought of a Rob Zombie Alien movie...but that would be Fucking Awesome.
June 5, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST
that they are making a 4th Re-Animator film with talent like William H Macey? And Combs and Bruce Abbott are going to be back together? Maybe with this story we can scrub ourselves clean of the shite that was Beyond Re-Animator...and that fucking music video. Oh and in regards to Rob...I'll give him a chance with this. Mainly because the series can't be more fucked up than it already has been. Busta Rhyms taking down Michael was like watching Roseanne Barr taking a big shit on screen with a smell-o-vision system attached.
June 5, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST
If somebody wanted to be really ambitious, they
June 5, 2006, 3:55 p.m. CST
and he probably will be.
June 5, 2006, 3:55 p.m. CST
by El Scorcho
Period. Loved Devil's Rejects, so I have some hope for this. BUT, he must use the original music and not fuck it up too much.
June 5, 2006, 3:59 p.m. CST
female in asia in the future. that was the REAL basic version of his crow film.
June 5, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST
Yes, just the image I want to start my dad. That could only be topped by adding that while she shits, a big, bloody tampon fires out of her vagina and splashes fecal matter in a 20 foot blast-ejecta radius.
June 5, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST
Not a fan of Zombie's movies, but then again I'm not a fan of Michael Myers either, aside from his Captain Kirk mask. So I guess all in all, you could say that I don't care and just wanted to get my post in the TalkBack.
June 5, 2006, 4:18 p.m. CST
A crow story with a female lead set in Hong Kong would have been the fifth film had Wicked Prayer been successful. Rob's Crow movie was titled "The Crow 2037: A New World of Gods & Monsters" and you can find it here: http://web.archive.org/web/20040530184326/abahb.crowfans.com/Crow3/crow2037.pdf It's on Drew's Script-O-Rama and a bunch of other screenplay sites. It's not as bad as the last two sequels but it certainly isn't very good.
June 5, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...I actually agree with you on H20 being mismaligned. I watched it while confined to a bed on a morphine drip and recall it being pretty decent. As I remember, Jamie Lee goes all mama eagle on Mikey after he starts messing with her kid (his nephew?) and actually lops his head off at the end (Mikey's, I mean...not the kid's - SPOILER). I dug that. In fact, in my mind I kind of erased all that neice molesting druid-infused unstoppable incarnation of hatred bullshit from the preceding sequels and considered I, II and H20 parts of a trilogy. I thought it put a nice end cap on the major character arcs. Season of the Witch was just a weird movie. Felt like I was watching a subplot for a bigger, scarier movie the whole time (although that dark haired chick was very early 80s hot in a wet dream kind of way). I agree the premise was cool and deranged, but the execution was weak. It would make a good running plot for a season of 24, though. Chloe: "Jack, if that signal gets out, all those kids' faces will melt and spiders and snakes and stuff will crawl out their eye sockets!" Jack: I know! I'm working on it! Where's Kim?" Chloe: "She's been taken hostage by druid terrorits!" Jack: "Dammit!"
June 5, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST
"...I need you to set up a perimeter around Stonehenge! I'll try to hold off Cochran's robots for as long as I can. Dammit!"
June 5, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST
You just phrased perfectly what I felt as I watched the ranicd dog vomit that was Alien Vs Predator dance across the screen. Good on you boy!
June 5, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST
Too soon! Just make a sequel with Myers and ignore the one after H2O.
June 5, 2006, 5:06 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
Since when was Zombie attached to Wolverine? Now I would be salivating over that one... He's got the grit and the dark edge that would be necessary.. But on the topic of Halloween.. I sincerely hope that the key word is "reimagining" and not "remake". From watching the 2 hour making-of doc on the Devil's Rejects DVD I get the sense that Zombie wouldn't get involved with a remake unless something new was being done. I'm sure he doesn't want to get in line between whatever hacks directed The Fog and When A Stranger Calls and tarnish the little horror-auteur status that is currently in its embryonic state. But a re-imagining could be cool, if it managed to make us forget the progressively more tiresome installments in the Halloween franchise. I was thinking the other day, I'd like to see a movie where (Haddonfield) has been terrorized for decades, their teenagers are shut ins, the parents insane and proficient with weapons. What if some crazy killer that was virtually unstoppable always came back to your town, like Jason and Camp Crystal lake. You wouldn't be drinking in the woods and dismissing what happened a few years ago as urban legend. You'd be moving to a different story or going crazy with paranoia. Not in a lame Scream self referential way, with a straight face. Anyway these are half baked ideas from a fully baked person, and there is no actual plot thread. But I think one way to invigorate this franchise would be to get some realistic characters and escalate the kill/survival scenarios.
June 5, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...that's two "Dammit"s in one episode alone. Not only could this be the greatest season of (the witch) 24 ever, it practically writes itself. CHloe: "Jack, I've been looking into the major shareholders for Silver Shamrock and...you'r not goiong to like it." Jack: "Who is it, Chloe? Who's behind this?" Chloe: "It's Bill Buchanan, Jack! He's working with the terrorists!" Jack: "Dammit! Prep the interrogation room and find some reason to keep him there. I'm on my way back to CTU now."
June 5, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST
by Gwai Lo
moving to a different *city
June 5, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST
Halloween is classic. Clean it up and rerelease it you freaks. Send the money you save to the WWF or something...
June 5, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST
I wish thats what they'd have done instead of almost everyremake in recent history.
June 5, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST
Take the following 1. Horrible movies-truly bad films like 'Robot Monster' 'Plan 9 from Outer Space' etc. 2. Hire A list directors like Scorsese, Fisher, Speilberg, Eastwood, Coppola, etc. 3. Allow NO changes to the plot or dialoge. It cannot be 'tounge in cheek.' It has to be made dead serious. 3. Give them unlimited dollars to attract the best actors and Fx companies on the planet. 4. Presto-Instant classic. Great actors like Anthony Hopkins forced to give lines written by the likes of Ed Wood with all the intensity he can muster. This could be a series, release one per year but they have to be re-imaginings of the worst of the worst of the worst. I would see them all, so would you, you know it.
June 5, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST
...let him direct it. But for God's sake; DON'T LET HIM WRITE IT! His screenplays read (and film) like a filmstudent jacked off all over them.
June 5, 2006, 6:28 p.m. CST
to write a sequel to Nightmare on Elm Street.... with better characters... perhaps Alice's daughter could be in it?? perhaps it's not really Freddy behind the killings this time?? one can dream..
June 5, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST
sucked so bad they're nigh unwatchable. Zombie's version may end up being inappropriate but people who prattle on about Zombie ruining their favorite franchise need to take a deep breath and remind themselves that every Halloween movie since part 4 has blown so bad they make Anaconda look like Oscar material. I count my blessings to be able to watch an imaginative take on Halloween by a someone with talent rather than another factory made direct-to-video quality sequel staring washed up rappers suffering PG-13 deaths. Don't....fuckup...the mask.
June 5, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST
by Jack Burton
DR was easily my favorite movie of last year. Same way that Kill Bill Volume 1 was my fave from the year before that. I'm not saying it was the best movie, but I watch those 2 flicks more then just about anything else in my collection. That being said, I'd much rather see Zombie do another original story. The only way a "reimagining" of Halloween would work is if it is an entirely new story in a new place. So for that matter, just make something original.
June 5, 2006, 7:25 p.m. CST
Interesting to see how so many of you love Zombie's REJECTS, yet over in the CARS TB there's quite a bit of hate over all things that lean NASCAR, Larry especially. Let me get this straight -- the only good redneck is one that gives you the business end of a ballistic weapon or something pointy?
June 5, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST
by Evil Chicken
John Carpenter got it right the first time. Rob Zombie
June 5, 2006, 8:28 p.m. CST
by Drunken Rage
namely, that Laurie Strode is now an alcoholic. That was unexpected and kind of fucked-up. I think the film had a much larger vision than it's being given credit for. Still, I feel ashamed using the word "vision" when referring to H20, especially as it pretty much sucks.
June 5, 2006, 8:32 p.m. CST
The strange person with the mask killing teenagers in a small town. For real. No jokes or trying to be hip. That was the beauty of it. The story could take place anywhere, anytime in a neighborhood just like yours. It came out of the 70's but didn't have any dated shit in it. There was more suspense than anything. Was there even any blood onscreen in the movie? If Zombie wants to do his version of a slasher film, fine. But I can't see him doing a silent and calculating Myers working his way down to his sister on Halloween.
June 5, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST
I agree it's a shame that Jason is the VHS to the BetaMax that is Michael, but it is what it is. Given the streak of Halloween sequels, Zombie cannot injure this franchise any further than it already has been. At this point, more is better than nothing. Jason X didn't suck, for what it was worth. Given the Hellraiser and Leprechaun series, it's about time Michael entered the final frontier!
June 6, 2006, 12:43 a.m. CST
by Doom II
His animated movie based on his comic. It looks pretty cool and the comic was weird to be sure (a mexican wrestler, naked chicks and demons). Zombie hasn't even started making an impression on horror. Just give the guy a few years and he will be the new Carpenter (since Carpenter is now a B movie joke).
June 6, 2006, 1 a.m. CST
and just keeps the title, the character name, and the basic slasher format. Mask? Music? Those mainstays are clearly what made the sequels great. I'd rather see Rob scrape the whole slate clean and come up with something that's more uniquely his than try to navigate the fanboy minefield and make something close to the original. He's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't, really as far as the hardcore fans are concerned, so I'd rather he make a play for something crazy and totally different than play it close to the vest. If he'll be accused of raping childhoods and fucking things up no matter what he does, he may as well just go apeshit with it. And I have never understood the HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES hate among horror fans -- it's a sensory wet dream that, while flawed, was made by somebody with a flare and passion for the genre. Hopefully the Weinstein's give him carte blanch on this one, I don't see Rob compromising much.
June 6, 2006, 1:15 a.m. CST
"Since all the sequels were made by hacks . . .then go for it devil man!!! 2nd biggest self-proclaimed-savior-of-horror after Eli Roth. Hate hate hate. Bitch bitch bitch."
June 6, 2006, 1:45 a.m. CST
The Halloween series ORIGINALLY was envisaged as an unconnected series of movies dealing with horrific incidents happening on halloween, hence the detour with part 3 into the whole mask thing. Rob Zombie already has shown hes a better director than every other director who made sequels to Halloween, and what with The Hills have eyes showing us reimaginings dont always suck, to quote Marmot too, 'Go for it devil man!'
June 6, 2006, 2:08 a.m. CST
by darth wayne
he's a beautiful, perfect, aryan child in the beginning...then towards the end of the movie, Laurie gets his mask off, and he's asymetrical to the point of +extra chromosome, and not blonde. Maybe Zombie can get Daniel Craig for Michael...for some reason, that's how I always pictured he should look w/o the mask. Craig'll need something to do in between Bond movies, anyway.
June 6, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST
He might shine in a different genre. I honestly think Rob Zombie's too big of a fan boy to make a good horror movie. His movies have nice little concepts/scenes but overall there's no point to them. But then again what's the point of the Halloween movies? Meh. Hellbilly Deluxe still rocks though. ^_^
June 6, 2006, 8:34 a.m. CST
WTF? I am all for Rob Zombie making a '70s slasher flick. But don't call it Halloween. And for God's sakes don't use Michael Myers. Did not anyone learn from the Psycho remake? You can't 're-imagine' an icon and a movie like Halloween. About the best you could do, is make a prequel showing how Michael grew up and the original slayings of his family members.
June 6, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST
on I love the 70's? He said something to the effect of Myers being a boring character and I also got the feeling he disliked that there was no gore in the movie.
June 6, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST
by Mr. Fist
They should have a Black Christmas remake with Kristen Kreuk! JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST. New and original horror ideas had better be on their way soon, or i'll be one less person going to the movies.
June 6, 2006, 2:11 p.m. CST
by Mr. Fist
There's no way in hell that'll happen. Hollywood is DYING, and will continue dying until it, as a whole, changes its way of thinking. No more movie tickets that cost as much as the DVDs will. Cast actors who can actually (gasp!) ACT, as opposed to selling a money on "star power". Actors, directors and writers, stop shoving your beliefs and ideas down out throats with a plumer's helper and let us make up our own fucking minds. And, most important of all: STOP PEDALING YOUR MEDIOCRE, UNIMAGINATIVE HORSESHIT!
June 6, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST
by Mr. Fist
June 6, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST
June 6, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST
...and Michael Myers Raping a woman in the ear, and coming blood out of her nose/eye socket. Rob Zombie needs to grow up and move out of his mothers basement,etc. Vern i also agree about H20. It's a grade-A sequel, full of genuine suspense and surprises. "Oh look, it's 3rd Rock From The Sun's Joseph Gordon-Levitt. He'll be ok. He's fam...ON MY GOD! ICE-SKATE THROUGH THE FUCKING FACE!!!". The escape through the food-lift thingy. The final confrontation between Strode & Myers. It's up there with Obi-Wan Vs Anakin. And the bit with the mother and daughter in seperate toilet cubicles, when Myers comes in, is awesomely tense.
June 6, 2006, 5:22 p.m. CST
The highest grossing horror movie in history by far is the Exorcist. Halloween wuz the most profitable w/ a budget ratio of $150 earned for every one dollar spent. Blair Witch bettered that ratio, but that was all due to hype and gimmickry, not quality like the Carpenter masterpiece. My point is, Halloween and Exorcist are the higest profile horror films ever. Today, they churned out a hopefully decent Omen flick. The wheel has come full circle. Time for the big boys turn at the plate. Halloween is a near-perfect film. Zombie has no shot at besting Carpenter. I just hope he plays it subtle, remembering that less is more....... and uses the unaltered Carpenter music score...... and, oh yeah, keeps the Shatner mask.
June 6, 2006, 5:42 p.m. CST
Rob zombie did a killer job on the Devil's rejects...making it intense as all hell, violent, and totally brought back that 70's cinematography and feel to this movie. If he redoes Halloween, I hope he keeps it in the 70's ala the original, but definately needs to change some of the characters and killings to make it fresh, and maybe the end a little.
June 6, 2006, 7:02 p.m. CST
come to think of it, what was the last truly great horror film?....I really cant think of anything thats worked since, I dunno.....stephen kings it part 1 was pretty good.....but even that was like 13 years ago....
As this is a restart I'd watch this with a open mind as I will be interested in Rob Zombie's interpretation of the character of Micheal Myers.After seeing all of the horror related items he has in his house on Cribs he'd better be able to back it or he might as well sell it all.Good luck to him.PS don't remix the theme,how he chooses to drop the music is an important component to the success of the suspense that was in the original.Season of the witch is a good laugh and coarse in an early 80's way.I want to see Reanimator again,that was a funny/coarse film,Vern should review that.
June 7, 2006, 4:02 a.m. CST
Rob Zombie has more respect for the Horror genre to then turn around and make a needless remake or "re-imagining" of Carpenter's seminal film. Besides, isn't he finishing up his animated film EL SUPER BEASTO and gong on his 'American Witch' tour? Where does he have the time. Hopefully, this "remake bullshit" will go away soon and we can enjoy more original features in the cinemaplexes. Rob could do his LEGEND OF THE 13 GHOSTS after his tour wraps, instead of a Hallween retread. Bring back Josh Hartnett and have hime duke it out with Uncle Mike in a sequel. Otherwise, ignore the AICN post about this film.
June 7, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST
by Blok Narpin
There are only three good Halloween movies - the trilogy - Halloween 1, Halloween II, and Halloween H20. Those three films tell a complete story. I need no others. I like Zombie, and I'll check out his film, so long as it doesnt eff with the trilogy.
June 7, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST
by Blok Narpin
I don't hate it. It's one of the only good ones. In fact, it's easily the best of the sequels. Halloween, Halloween II, and H20 are the only three worth watching.