Merrick Says "Yippee Kai Yay!" To The DIE HARD 4.0 Script!!
…with a look at DIE HARD 4.0.
Over the years, we’ve heard many rumors about this film: one said it would be set on a cruise ship, another indicated the plot would involve a space launch. There were once suggestions that a third sequel would take Bruce Willis’ John McClane character overseas; a forth piece of gossip indicated all of the good guys from the original DIE HARD film would return (Reginald VelJohnson, Bonnie Bedelia, etc.) There were so many possibilities it was difficult to know what to think…
But, it now seems that all parties concerned have closed-in on a concept that may finally make it to screen. Indications are DIE HARD 4.0 will roll as early as September, and Len Wiseman (the director of the two UNDERWORLD films) was recently selected to helm it.
With all of this in mind, please know…
THERE ARE MAJOR SPOILERS FOR DIE HARD 4.0 BELOW!!!
TURN BACK NOW IF YOU WISH TO REMAIN UNSPOILED, OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!!!
IS THIS THE SAME DRAFT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED ELSEWHERE?
No. That draft was by Mark Bomback, and had New Orleans in it. This one does not. The previous draft also features characters who are no longer in this revision – they’ve been replaced by significant additions, like John McClane’s son!
This is Doug Richardson’s revision Bomback’s work. Richardson was a writer on BAD BOYS, DIE HARD 2, and Bruce Willis’ HOSTAGE.
WHAT’S IT ABOUT? WHO THE HELL ARE THESE “INTERNET TERRORISTS” WE HEARD ABOUT THE OTHER DAY?
The “internet terrorists” are a bunch of folks who have banned together to reboot America.
In a phased process, they intend to systematically demolish or seize our technological infrastructure via a three-day plan. It starts small: the wide-spread scuttling of traffic control systems, and inconvenient things like that. Later, economic mechanisms tumble (like stock markets, banking computers, credit cards, etc.) Emergency response systems and utilities (water) also go down. Finally, power distribution…and the few remaining utilities/systems…are paralyzed. America has been thrown into complete shut-down, thrust into a modern Dark Ages (remember ESCAPE FROM L.A.?)
We see all of this happen in the script – it begins *very* early on, before we understand the nature of the caper being advanced. The script is divided into Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3. There’s an escalating sense of foreboding right out of the gate; an inexplicable nuclear power plant crisis…McClane’s inability to secure a rental car due to an unusual computer glitch…every stoplight in the city turning (and staying) green simultaneously – causing instant gridlock.
To what end are the bad guys doing this?
This movement is being spearheaded by a high-profile government consultant, to whom The Powers That Be will unknowingly turn when everything comes tumbling down. He and his odd band of followers will earn big, big money by restoring our nation’s infrastructure swiftly and ably.
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH JOHN MCCLANE?
We first find John McClane as he’s picking his son up from prison. Ashton Kutcher?
His son, whose name is John (he goes by “Jack G” – the “G” referring to Gennero, his mother’s last name) has been serving time for cyber crimes – in this instance the acquisition of extremely sensitive/classified information.
Jack has no particular affinity for his father. Apparently John is, simply, John – whether he’s being a hero or being a dad. In both roles he’s a brash, egotistical, smart-ass, fly-by-the-seat of his pants kind of guy who seems to thrive on dysfunction. But Jack was looking for more in a father…and didn’t find it in John…who is consistently the only person he knows how to be. As such, the two are at a major impasse.
The bad guy’s three day plan is based partially on Jack’s cyber shenanigans – the same ones that got him thrown into jail. Which means Jacks is suddenly a valuable asset to the government. Since he knows so much about the bad guys’ MO, maybe he can help stop them? A cyber-terrorism detachment called D.E.R.T. approaches John and Jack in an effort to procure Jack G’s help – before the nation is brought to its knees.
Things go very badly in this encounter. John and Jack G end-up on-the-run, struggling to evade the forces of a government they do not trust…dodge the minions of the bad guys who know that Jack G can stop them (hence they want him deleted)…and survive in a world that is, literally, falling apart around them.
SOUNDS EPIC! HOW BIG DOES THIS STORY GET?
Sweeping vistas of “end of the world” kind of imagery. Vast deserted areas, cutaways to events happening all over the country (outages, lootings, families huddled around televisions, highways are filled with people headed for the hills – but unable to get anywhere). One scene references burning buildings in Harlem with tanks and Humvees establishing martial law.
DOES ANYONE SAY “YIPPEKAYAY, MOTHERFUCKER!”?
DO ANY CHARCTERS FROM THE OTHER FILMS (BESIDES MCCLANE AND HIS SON) APPEAR IN DIE HARD 4.0?
No. No characters from other films are even referenced by name. There are some organic ways they could be incorporated, though.
WHO ARE THE NEW CHARACTERS THIS TIME AROUND?
Other than Jack G? The villain, Greg Pope. A Federal agent named Rooney – a tough-as-nails African American woman. A rabble of ex-athletes – Pope’s private security force. Various supernumeraries – a surprisingly large cast of supporting players, most of whom are rather well drawn and distinct.
WHAT IS THIS MOVIE’S MONEY SHOT?
Seems like every DIE HARD movie has a single image that becomes iconic.
In the first film, I’d say it was that low-angle shot of McClane jumping off the edge of the Nakatomi building with a fire hose tied around his waist. In DIE HARD 2, it was probably the aerial shot of McClane ejecting from the exploding plane – flying into our face before being pulled back by gravity. The third film? The derailed subway cars sweeping destructively through the underground train platform beneath New York City.
Here? The image that pops to mind is McClane jumping from train car towards which two Sidewinder missiles are headed. He dives from the target as the missiles rip forward on either side of him, impacting spectacularly.
WHAT SURPRISED ME ABOUT THIS STORY?
It’s extremely nihilistic.
Previous DIE HARD films have certainly had anti-establishment tendencies, but 4.0 takes disdain of institution to a whole new level.
John and Jack’s movements are constantly (and instantaneously) tracked by surveillance cameras; references to “Big Brother” are made. There is a strong “us against them” vibe.
The film vividly illustrates how easily controlled and undermined our society can be – should the slightest technological snafu trip us up. 4.0 even seems to imply that we’re already far too dependent on technology – that we’ve lost our ability to adapt and improvise, and are well past the point of no return.
It feels like something of a cautionary tale, and references characters that have previously warned against the perils of technological vulnerability – but they could find no one to listen.
Acknowledgment is also made to bureaucratic disorganization and incompetence. Much like the Katrina aftermath in New Orleans, several different departments head several different directions when struggling to address the three day crisis – effectively impeding a hasty resolution to the turmoil at hand.
WHAT DOESN’T WORK ABOUT THE SCRIPT?
The final quarter of the script involves a hidden component of the bad guy’s plan. This feels a bit inorganic, and tacked on. I won’t spoil everything herein, but suffice to say the scheme is gargantuan, and Lex Luthor-ian in nature.
It’s never clear if this was actually the villain’s design all along, or if this element was being held a as a fallback plan in case the ransom of the United States didn’t pan out as the nasties intended. It should be wonderfully spectacular on-screen, but it feels incongruous and a bit over-the-top – undercutting the headier tension that comes before.
WILL THIS WORK AS A MOVIE?
There’s a lot of compelling and interesting stuff in 4.0.
McClane’s trademark cut-downs and taunts are funnier here than in any other DIE HARD film. He may be older, but his wit has grown more acerbic over the years – and his self-restraint is thinner than ever before.
You’ll see certain themes carry through: McClane engages in a classic sparring session over a phone, similar in tone to his torment of Alan Rickman’s Hans Gruber in the first film. NEWS COVERAGE (and the availability of information) plays an important role in how the storyline unfolds – another DIE HARD conceit.
As a whole, this plot feels like a cross between the tech-heavy ENEMY OF THE STATE and a SUPERMAN film. And, like ENEMY OF THE STATE, there are allusions to stylistic considerations surrounding high-tech surveillance.
For example, references are made to VFX in which the audience becomes a data pattern, or signal. We’re catapulted at dizzying velocities through fiber optic networks, or launched skyward to slam into orbiting satellites. This kind of super-charged, hyper-stylized storytelling is fine enough, but it gets old when used to often…and it gets old very fast. We’ve seen this kind of trickery before - it’s distracting, and not a gimmick to rely on too heavily.
The POWER of this script, and the cleverness of its premise, does not lie in visual razzle-dazzle. Instead, director Len Wiseman may be well advised not to approach this material with his characteristic sledge-hammer sensibility – such handling will utterly thrash the vast atmospheric potential that runs throughout the story.
This is a story about an Armageddon of sorts; it’s about what happens when we no longer have the choice to live the way we’re used to living. It’s about what happens when the lights go out & there’s no way to call someone on the phone for comfort or reassurance. It’s about seeing the world we know closed down, as far as the eye can see, and a small group of heroes being forced to work within limitations they’ve never even conceived of before.
The film should play to this innate desperation, fear, desolation, paranoia, and apprehension. It should make the ambience affecting. If Wiseman doesn’t rely on bombast (yeah…I know…but I said “if”…), and treats 4.0 as an artistic exercise more than a bludgeoning, this film has the potential to be one hell of an inventive, effective, and even chilling ride – one that might make us feel a little, and think a little, along the way.
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June 1, 2006, 5:17 p.m. CST
by Vim Fuego
June 1, 2006, 5:18 p.m. CST
by jasper Stillwell
...the words 'shark and 'jump' are in there...along with words like 'why...bother'??? Oh yeah, 'first' you squealing bitches!!!
June 1, 2006, 5:19 p.m. CST
had to stop reading, f willis.
June 1, 2006, 5:21 p.m. CST
by Toe Jam
but that could be cool, actually. i'd rather see a "24" movie than "die-hard 4," though.
June 1, 2006, 5:23 p.m. CST
by jasper Stillwell
...I just can't see that this will be anything other than an excuse for Willis to pay for his Florida retirement condo...I think a sequel to One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest?...Chief - on the run, 'in a world where no-one has love for the meanest, looniest, juiciest fruit on Earth'...Six Easy Pieces...Crazy disillusioned, social malcontent Jack and ditzy-but-still-bonable-in-a-weird-kind-of-way Karen Black reunite - with HILARIOUS results...*getting whole head in front of the gun now*
June 1, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST
From your review, this movie doesn't seem quite up to the Die Hard standards. But then, neither was Die Hard 2 or 3.
June 1, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST
by Lando Griffin
you say you have
June 1, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST
Someone McClane can confide in and seek refuge from the storm.
June 1, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST
Anything that even remotely hints at Katrina will upset the delicate fiber of society. The real question is when will John McClane go to space?
June 1, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST
Since when is John McClane a Marvel superhero? Aging, wise-ass cop goes from fighting Eurotrash in a building to stopping all out Armaggedon? Please. Stupid computers ending the world bullshit. I thought that movie was good when it was called "Wargames." Maybe his son will be Matthew Broderick. Fuckin' A! The only reason McClane appeals to anyone is because he's a regular jerk like you or me and this story sounds way too big for that particular character. They should've put him on a plane -- with snakes -- European terrorist snakes -- with time bombs strapped to their rattlers. Cool. Fuck! Now the studios will probably steal my great and original idea too. Oh well.
June 1, 2006, 5:37 p.m. CST
June 1, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST
Will youtube.com be safe from the terrorists?
June 1, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST
by Lando Griffin
called "4.0" as it keeps being referred to as here on AICN but rather just plain ol' "4"
June 1, 2006, 5:45 p.m. CST
They should cast Vin Diesel.
June 1, 2006, 5:45 p.m. CST
Am I missing something here? Die Hard I was a pretty good movie..the rest of were worthless..and this will probably be another worthless sequel.
June 1, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST
by Joseph Merrick
Uh...well...for whatever it
June 1, 2006, 5:51 p.m. CST
Yo, I was thinking the exact same thing. This does sound intriguing, however. If this is released, I wouldn't pass this up in the theaters. I guess it's not easy to have simple terrorists with guns and bombs anymore - I just hope this doesn't turn into "Firewall" or something of that nature.
June 1, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST
Me just want things go boom.
June 1, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST
early "techno" thrillers like The Net and Lawnmower Man - films that have not aged well at all. Ditch the .0 and add more explosions - computer explosions. Yipikayay fanboy geek motherfucker.
June 1, 2006, 6:03 p.m. CST
by Tony Mike Hall
Good read. Thank you.
June 1, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST
Brainiac unleashed a computer virus that brought the countries infrastructure to its knees and mass chaos and looting occured. However his gameplan was to release General Zod, not hold the country to ransom.
June 1, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST
by Vim Fuego
A father & estranged son who don't get on? Getaway! What will they think of next? Yipikayawn Grandad.
June 1, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST
by Big Bad Clone
They can split up the signature line at the very end. "Yippie" "Kay" "Yay" "Motherfucker"
June 1, 2006, 6:18 p.m. CST
Skynet from the Terminator films + 'hacker' bullshit from Swordfish...is there a "It's a UNIX system! I know this!" moment?...fuck it, I'll see it.
June 1, 2006, 6:22 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
June 1, 2006, 6:32 p.m. CST
This is film i dont want to see. Now tha len haventgotaclueman is attached this will be a straight to DVD jobbie.
June 1, 2006, 6:35 p.m. CST
This is film i dont want to see. Now tha len haventgotaclueman is attached this will be a straight to DVD jobbie.
June 1, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST
John Mclane's son serving time for cyber crimes? that has to be the lamest plot Ive heard in years... That could work for another direct-to-dvd Van Damme crap... but Die Hard? Come on!!
June 1, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST
by I Dunno
Bauer with a SIG and Chloe with a laptop could solve this movie in 20 minutes. Let the next Die Hard be about terrorists taking over the monorail at Disney, or whatever edifice or mode of transport is left to hijack.
June 1, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST
I recently saw willis in extremly mediocre 16 blocks. mos def and the tepid end bugged the hell out of me. would mind seeing this paunchy willis in die hard 4.0
June 1, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST
And make this even a step nearer to that crapfest that was Lethal Weapon 4...
June 1, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST
High Rise, airport..NYC was certainly pushing it, but still felt contained in a way. Suddenly its Die Hard in whole US of A.
June 1, 2006, 6:45 p.m. CST
Oh, so McClane's son is a famous hacker. That's convenient! Come the fuck on people!
June 1, 2006, 6:45 p.m. CST
Bruce wants Justin Timberlake for the part of the son.
June 1, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST
by Det. John Kimble
Uh, 'banded together' Grammar police, over and out.
June 1, 2006, 6:52 p.m. CST
Not that Bruce could probably complain too much (as his last few live action films have done poorly and his DH4 salary will be in the 8 figure range), but after reading a few years ago that he didn't really want to do violent action films anymore, does anyone know if when he signed onto the first DH film, there was a clause in it contractually obligating him play John McClane in any future DH sequels, as it seems like that's the only reason DH4 is being made - because Bruce is legally obligated to do it and would be sued if he refused.
June 1, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST
Hey, it might have been cool if the movie were about New Orleans. Simple story, no fucking hackers with plots for world domination. Just, New Orleans, post-Katrina, McClane and a couple other crisis-team NYC cops are sent to Orleans to secure a hospital that's under seige. Easy story. Relevant. It'd put money back into New Orleans devastated coffers and help improve tourism. But no. Instead we get this unacceptable crap. The whole appeal of the original Die Hard was that it offered plausibility... at least compared to the Stallone/Schwartzenegger action of the 80s.
June 1, 2006, 6:59 p.m. CST
by Lando Griffin
I don't doubt what you saw/read but I just read this: http://tinyurl.com/q4rab this morning. So hows about that Transformers script review? Coming? Or no because AICN staff sat in with Bay?
June 1, 2006, 7:14 p.m. CST
I actually thought that was a really fun movie and surprsingly well done. I cant believe its so hated around here not that I ever agree with you guys about anything. Oh and I have to be the sole person here to throw in my support. Script sounds good although not really Die Hard.
June 1, 2006, 7:19 p.m. CST
I never was much of a Willis fan anyways. Honestly, the best work he's done, was his guest appearances on Letterman.
June 1, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST
Yuck. If that was in the first film, I'd have remembered it. I reckon this flick sounds okay. I'm saying Ed Furlong for his son.
June 1, 2006, 7:45 p.m. CST
"How could the same thing happen to the same guy FOUR TIMES?!" moment?
June 1, 2006, 7:56 p.m. CST
McClane's son is a fucking nerd? And the bad guys all like computers and shit? Fuck that. I want bad guy thieves with haughty foreign accents and complex heists gone wrong. This end of the world disaster movie shit is so tired it makes me want to nap. Please, Bruce, make a good action movie. Stop trying to over-think it. Also, if they place that sopping cunt, Ashton Kutcher, anywhere near a Die Hard movie I will special deliver suckerpunches to each and every person involved in the production of this shit heap. See you in Hell.
June 1, 2006, 8:02 p.m. CST
by Capt. Miller
Shit sandwhich. Does this franchise, already scarred by two shitty movies (yes, shitty) really have anything left to give?
June 1, 2006, 8:08 p.m. CST
by Larry of Arabia
The reason the first movie was such a classic was the Tower and the reality of McClane. When they fought, they got hurt. Glass cut feet, punches drew blood, and John got his ass kicked while kicking ass. Die Hard 2, which expanded the location to an airport, was a lesser film. McClane doesn't hang on a plane's wing, which, as I may recall, proved to be nearly physically impossible for even hollywood stuntmen with cables. McClane is just a normal guy damn it. Then came three with that insane, what was it, smokestack stunt at the end? Shit, nobody could survive that but, hey, John is getting more like a cartoon every day. Now he's stopping the end of the world on a cross country scale and evading sidewinder missles while jumping off a train like James Bond. Fuck that. John is a regular guy. Treat him that way. Leave the cyberterrotists and armegeddon shit to Bond. (Although it seems Bond has given that up and moved on to getting his ass kicked in realistic situations. These are end times...)
June 1, 2006, 8:14 p.m. CST
If they pick some prettyboy cunt (which I'm guessing the studio would want to) it won't work. They need someone as good as Samuel L Jackson was in '...with a Vengeance'. Jackson really made that movie watchable because he and Willis worked well together. The chemistry between McClane and son needs to be perfect, or no number of OTT plot devices will save the movie. Oh, and they need to ditch the '4.0'. Just screw the '4' all together and come up with another 'Die Hard: With a...' title or something. 'Die Hard with a Laptop' or 'Die Hard: With My Son In Tow'. I don't see any point in using '4' when it's been SO LONG since 'With a Vengeance' and that didn't even use the '3'.
June 1, 2006, 8:21 p.m. CST
Give the old man a break. Let the wife kick some ass.
June 1, 2006, 8:22 p.m. CST
by Rowley Birkin QC
June 1, 2006, 8:38 p.m. CST
Since when does McClane run away from the bad guys? Isn't he usually after them??? Doesn't really sound like there's any personal stakes involved. Just the survival of the human race. And as it appears "the cop from NY" motif is non-existent, that basically makes him...just a guy, running around with his son. I for one would have liked to see McClane in space (the oft-mentioned "IGNITION" novel that was supposed to be adapted into a DIE HARD film) or McClane in the Caribbean (remember in '98 when Bruno wanted Mr. Affleck to be his sidekick, and the characters ended up in a jungle, with no weapons whatsoever??).
June 1, 2006, 8:39 p.m. CST
by Lando Griffin
my Die Hard Trilogy: The Game for Playstation
June 1, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST
by Lando Griffin
If the reports everyone here keeps echoing, about Willis wanting Timberlake, are true its because Timberlake supposedly gives a great debut performance in Alpha Dog (when does that come out anyways?) Say what you will about his music but I remember catching him on SNL a few years back and he was pretty funny --- We should starts a "talkbackers for edit feature" campaign - or just keep clogging bandwith with multiple posts - doesn't really matter now that I come to think about it)
June 1, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST
...I would definetely watch this plot. Most Talkbackers cant grasp the reality of this...is not a matter of how or why, this set up WILL happen. There is going to come the day that all that shit about stock market, credit cards, cell phones, electric power itself, etc. all that shit will one day stop working because of some hacker group attack, and I think I would like to see someone like McClane screwing up the hackers plans while running out of time. Great concept for a Die Hard film.
June 1, 2006, 9:14 p.m. CST
Sounds like an overblown 24 script. Wait...that's redundant.
June 1, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
and Hollywood will decide any sequel to any action pic is worth a try, and then we will sit here open-mouthed as we read a script review for Tango & Cash 2 : Tango Cashier...
June 1, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST
Can't the studio execs find a copy of Die Hard 1 to watch? Can't they figure out why that movie worked and the sequels seem like silly Rambo knock-offs. John McClaine works when the tension is big and small at the same time, when he is not trying to save the world, just hold his family together. The Nakatomi tower was a metaphor for John's marriage. We don't need to see him take on bigger and more all encompassing enemies, we need to see his marriage, his wife, and the family life he beieves he will secure by saving the day one more time, not this end of the world, Big Brother crap. Make the threat smaller and personal, then blow up some cool stuff and stick Bruce in front of it.
June 1, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST
The fact that the son has something to do with it seems like a clich
June 1, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST
...which was a very funny Ben Stiller parody (his Bruce was dead-on perfect) that took place in a grocery store of all things. (ATTENTION SHOPPERS! FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL OFFER: TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN CHRISTMAS COUPONS IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR LIVES!) Oh, it was marvelous: "McClane" takes out one bad guy by slamming his head into a scanner and saying "Paper or plastic, you sonuva--" and another group by popping out of a produce display yelling "Hey fellas, gotta EAT YOUR GREENS!" Interestingly, the main villain in the skit was played by Taylor Negron, who really WAS the baddie in the Willis flick Last Boy Scout. Anyway, Bruce is still da man, far as I'm concerned: but this thing sounds STOOpid in the extremis.
June 1, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
I've been lukewarm about a 4th Die Hard movie. Why tamper with classic stuff? Why take the 80s/90s into 2K? How can you compete in a '24' world? But I'll be honest, the script review has me intrigued. If done correctly, it could possibly work and be a great movie. But it has to be handled correctly and again that "IF" factor plays heavily like Merrick said. Die Hard IV, Indy IV, Rocky Balboa, etc. I hope these movies work and are handled with care and love. If not, they may find themselves in Alien vs. Predator territory.
June 1, 2006, 9:59 p.m. CST
Remember the classic short story The Deadliest Game, about man hunting man? That was part of the appeal of the first Die Hard, instead of an island they told the same basic tale in a building. It was one charismatic villian hunting down an underdog hero. Now I really want to read the old rejected script with John in the jungle, that sounds like the one they should green light while this World Domination one gets sent back to the 24 Jack Bauer guys.
June 1, 2006, 10:15 p.m. CST
Surely Im not the only one. Good villian, great setpieces and great chemistry between the two leads. Also surprisingly well written. It really is a good film. I just dont understand why you guys rag on it.
June 1, 2006, 10:20 p.m. CST
Not The Deadliest Game.
June 1, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST
by Sir Loin
Sorry, got distracted. 4.0 sounds pretty cool to me!
June 1, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST
by Osmosis Jones
It's why the first two films worked so well, and the third didn't...you need a tight, confined location cut off from the rest of the world, with McClane between the terrorists and a small group of hostages (one of which is McClane's wife). With A Vengeance didn't work because, without Bonnie Bedelia, McClane really has no personal stake in the events. Who cares if a bunch of random extras get offed? Plus, careening from one location to another isn't what made the first two films great...it was the cat & mouse suspense of McClane always being one step ahead of the baddies, barely escaping by the skin of his teeth. This sounds like trendy 24 bullshit.
June 1, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST
...actually, that was a bout a 19 word review...but who's counting...:) and whatever - the studios always feel that a sequel has to be soooo much bigger and the ante has to be upped...that's why the nix the "one location" perfection of the first film...i will still see it though cause i love die hard and bruce as mclane has always been a blast... but it would be nice to see something more akin to the original magic...and maybe a bigger budget will allow Wiseman to afford another color of filter...
June 1, 2006, 11:21 p.m. CST
...but not the director? Fuck Wiseman! I want Siri!
June 1, 2006, 11:25 p.m. CST
I'd always hoped that they'd go back to the well. Meaning the novel The Detective which was followed up by Nothing Last Forever which is the book DIE HARD was based on. - I'd love to see McClane involved in some sort of Chandler-esque mystery. I quess I'll just have to watch The Last Boy Scout again.
June 1, 2006, 11:25 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
I admit it's been years since I've viewed all of them but from what I recall my order was 1,3,2. Maybe I'll sit down and give them all a spin soon and see how I judge them in 2006. Lastly, Dirk Nowitzki is a beast! He took it to yet another level tonight.
June 2, 2006, 12:25 a.m. CST
Jack Black. That's all i got to say.
June 2, 2006, 12:35 a.m. CST
I seriously hope that the studio doesn't listen to any of you whiney fucks. I think this seems like a really good idea for a Die Hard film, with the exception of the convenience of having a hacker son. Actually I think it'd work best if it also had John running around with Officer Lucy McClane as well. Also many complaints are unfounded such as this not seeming like a Die Hard film because it's not contained or because John is now a superhero? Each film gets bigger and more bombastic until the fifth which brings it back down to basics. This is the Hollywood structure, learn it, remember it, recognise it. Personally I can't wait for this and then John to go back to his detective roots in "DieHard5: Nothing Lasts Forever." It'd be a nice way to cap the series.
You can't tell me you wouldn't love to see Jack Black as McClane 2.0? Yeah right.
June 2, 2006, 12:56 a.m. CST
though i liked the rumor of b/spears being the daughter(and hopefully die some painful and gorey death) ... and hey .. i LOved DH3 ... and in 10 years we will have Willis and Ford starring in Bubba Hotep 4.0
June 2, 2006, 1:17 a.m. CST
Nothing better then computer nerds taking over the world. I'm sure this will be a great movie. Esp. when the script is written by some guy who knows absolutely nothing about computers and writes in a plot that would be techinically impossible to pull off in the real world or would be just plain stupid to anyone who knows even just a little bit about computers. The worst offender in cinematic history has to be Independence Day with the incredibly moronic Computer Virus made on a Mac that saves the day. They should have Booger play the evil mad man.
June 2, 2006, 2:38 a.m. CST
Good Vernesque joke.
June 2, 2006, 2:56 a.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
All they woulda had to do was substitute the names "Neal" in one and "Castle" in the other with "McClane". Actually, they were both sorta the same story with bad guys trying to score notoriety or make their rep by being the guy to off Bruce. One version had a single bad guy and his weird crew while the other was like a video game with killer after killer coming after him. Pretty stupid, huh? And yet, I read about this...
June 2, 2006, 2:59 a.m. CST
in this SO NOT NECESSARY SEQUEL. Seriously, the description sounds more like a lame xXx sequel combined with over-the-top Tom Clancy scenario and a bit James Bond elements. This is not Die Hard. We'll have to wait for the end product but i'm not convinced that this will work as a Die Hard sequel.
June 2, 2006, 3:02 a.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
June 2, 2006, 3:26 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
Wtf is this crap. I don't understand why also studio's are so afraid to use Arab terrorists in movies. Why not just have some terror group take over a school, or bakery, it doesn't really mattter. Then have Bruce kick their asses one way or another, I'm not going to lie I'd see that. This on the other hand isn't a Die Hard movie, this is Bruce Willias surviving an economical crash. I wish they stuck with the cruise ship idea.
June 2, 2006, 3:34 a.m. CST
American movie has 'I love you,son. I love you to, pop' subplot shocker.
June 2, 2006, 3:48 a.m. CST
by Max Rockatansky
DIE HARD should be "analog" whereas this script sounds "digital". I agree that this is more of a Bond premise. Fuck that!
June 2, 2006, 4:20 a.m. CST
Yeah...So is his hair...boom-boom!...C'mon,its Friday
June 2, 2006, 5:36 a.m. CST
Almost 24, pales to compare I bet. F Willis if he complies. Jack would kick his ass.
June 2, 2006, 5:38 a.m. CST
June 2, 2006, 6:24 a.m. CST
Obviously, this isn't the script they're going to shoot, since they still need to rewrite it to change the setting to a maximum security prison. Otherwise, how is McTiernan going to be able to direct it? And don't give me any of that Len Wiseman stuff. That's obviously just somebody's idea of a joke
June 2, 2006, 6:37 a.m. CST
Jeremy Irons was a good baddie and its a really funny film. "I Hate Niggers" on a sandwich board in Harlem and Willis being shot out of a water vent at high speed. All good stuff and Justin Long for the son.
June 2, 2006, 7:59 a.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
...movies always seem so hopefull and promising? I bet once this gets shot, it won't have the same amount of meaning Merrik touched upon. But who knows? In any case, this sounds more like a sequel to Die Hard 3 then to the original Die Hard. I liked 3 and still enjoy it to this day. I've never seen 2, but I get the impression from people that it was terrible because it tried to use the same "Die Hard in a [blank]" formula everybody else was ripping off at the time. John McLane trapped in a confined space...again. Sequels work best when they build on the character, and don't just restage the original movie in a different setting. In 3 they did this by letting McLane loose in a wide open space, and it worked (for me, and many, I assume) because it had the same spirit as the orginal. If anything, 4.0 feels like a re-tread of 3, but whatever, I'll be there if the trailers look good.
June 2, 2006, 8 a.m. CST
Yeah, I'll watch as long as Michael Bay or Tony Scott don't direct... How old is Bruce now? They should do it realistic with his son as a 40 year old college professor! Seriously though I love me some Die Hard. Die Hard 4: Die Harder-er-er?
June 2, 2006, 8:12 a.m. CST
You are right, must learn not to post during bouts of insomonia.
June 2, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST
Once again the bad buys are
June 2, 2006, 8:46 a.m. CST
The last thing in the world that would ever make organic sense for this franchise is a 24/ENEMY OF THE STATE scenario. Jesus, you really hate to see Willis go the way of guys like Michael Douglas and keep desperately stabbing at roles that are too young and too wrong for them. McClane's story has always been personal, claustrophobic and cynical as hell. This may sound like the third element is covered... but nothing else about it sounds remotely like a DIE HARD thriller. Bruce, jump off the project before the sidewinders hit! Let Will Smith ride this one into inanity and career embarrassment! I'd rather see Willis assaying more 16 BLOCKS-type roles than ruin the memory of McClane... Just my two cents...
June 2, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST
I still have so much ramen saved up from six years ago when I thought civilzation was going to end. Oh well, at least 06-06-06 is only a few days away...
June 2, 2006, 9:07 a.m. CST
Hi Merrick, Thank you for the script review. Does all of it take place in NYC? If not, where else please ? It's in this week's Productionweekly.com, but no locations are listed. Thanks Much.
June 2, 2006, 9:28 a.m. CST
There are a few problems with this movie. One, it doesn't sound like a Die Hard. The Die Hards have been almost auteur-like with their cameras, they have always been the antithesis of a bloated action movie (certainly some irony was there when McClane surfed a dump truck in 3). The script mentioning the audience becoming network packets is just retarded and is outside of the cinematic language of this series.... The other glaring problem is that the whole "Terrorists cause problem, and then offer themselves up as the solution for MONEY" plot was used in DH3.... For the record, my Favorite is DH, then 3, then 2.
June 2, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
The Die Hard movies are brilliant, and each movie is every bit as good as the other 2. There are NO trilogies that can say that.. except for Die Hard. Not star wars, not LOTR, nothing.
June 2, 2006, 11:31 a.m. CST
Die Hard is the best action movie of all time. Nuff said. The Die Hard Trilogy, whilst good, is nowhere near as good as the original Star Wars or LOTR trilogies.
June 2, 2006, 11:47 a.m. CST
Okay, Muslim terrorists aren't all that hard to find in the real world (or all that hard to find in the movies), but terrorists from China? From Mexico? Am I getting the wrong newspaper? Why would China or Korea even need any terrorists? They've already got nuclear weapons. I mean, I guess some of those Falun Gong weirdos in China could finally freak out and start hijacking planes, but they'd probably focus most of their goose-wiggling angst on, well, China.
June 2, 2006, 1:09 p.m. CST
by I Dunno
They're not in the same ball park, not even the same fucking sport.
June 2, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST
Die Hard 2 is definatly the weak episode in the series. A poor attempt to replicate the original, but with a crap director, crap villains, crap action scenes that would be too OTT for a James Bond flick and Bruce at his smuggest(and wearing a really bad Cosby Sweater!). Die Hard With A Vengance was sweaty, gritty and sarcastic and had a great chemistry between Willis & Jackson(plus Mclean back in a wifebeater!). It worked better having our familier character in a whole new set up, rather than crawling through yet-another-air-shaft and going "Hollleeeee!!!!" at the end of the film. It's not a perfect movie and it kind of loses focus towards the end but it's still a fantastic follow up to the original. It's a pitty Mctiernan isn't/probably-wont-be-avaiable-to direct 4.0. Sounds like it could be decent, judging by that review. I'm hopeful.
June 2, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST
One that says "PWND!1" ?
June 2, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST
by Lost Skeleton
plus...it would be good to see John McClaine again for one last ride
June 2, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST
by El Borak
MACHINE GUN!... tearin' my body all apart...
June 2, 2006, 3:09 p.m. CST
The original Die Hard worked so well because of the sense of isolation and claustrophobia of one guy ALONE in the one environment taking on the bad guys. There never should have been sequels.
June 2, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
I won't see this. If they cut away from impact hits, censor blood, or mute gunshot and punching sound efx, use cgi explosions, or CGI fast motion vehicle crap (like Torque, xx2, Fast & and the Furious) or soft R shit like Assault on Precinct 13..then I won't see this. Don't fuck up Wiseman.
June 2, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST
...Pictures you coward. You NOOB.
June 2, 2006, 4:45 p.m. CST
If he says it was the guys who sent them in that asked, then I believe him. They were kinda boring anyway.
June 2, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST
Destroyed it. Well done Merrick. You can delete the pictures.........but nobody will ever forget. You ruined everything.
June 2, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST
by Col. Klink
If Justin Tinkerbell is McClane Jr. then you can scrap this movie right now. Why Willis has developed a crush on N'Stink is a mystery.
June 2, 2006, 5:21 p.m. CST
by Col. Klink
...and neither is Die Hard 4. They're just random action stories where John McClane is being shoe-horned into the plot. Yes, I know Die Hard 2 was based on a novel, but the original plot at least fit the Die Hard genre. What's the point of calling it Die Hard if it's just a generic flick that happens to star Bruce Willis?
June 2, 2006, 5:27 p.m. CST
i dunno, i dont like the idea of john mccalne and son. his supercool hacker son sounds, well, gay.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 2, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST
i want another christmas die hard, and awesome bad guys not some hacker nerds, i love escape from la and enemy of state and "big brother" "1984" type stuff but this just seems like a mess, too big for old mcclane. god i wish theyd make diehard in a mall.
June 2, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST
IS like Die Hard in a mall. I'd see Die Hard in hot air balloons before this muddled story Merrick reported on.
June 2, 2006, 6 p.m. CST
I don't really understand why this movie needs to be a John McClane flick. Because Die Hard has built-in appeal? B/c people want another Die Hard and the studio just cares the box office receipts instead of integrity? Why soil the "Die Hard" brand with this non-Die Hard type of story? It's too big, for one, and the father-son aspect is totally out of character for John. Especially if he has a computer geek kid that he will pal around with in situations of mortal danger. That's just not who the character is. Sorry. Make this movie if you must. Even with Bruce Willis, but don't force it to be "Die Hard". That's a disservice to the franchise and just asking for the fans not to return for the next one if you do.
June 2, 2006, 8:38 p.m. CST
Gotta chime in as well. This doesn't come off a fucking bit like Die Hard. That open-ended feeling of environment was a big part of what didn't work in Die Hard With a Vengeance. And this whole world on an Apocalyptic edge sounds both too extreme for McClane's world and too cliched. What worked about the two films was the relatively small and contained danger to McClane's family. Making his son this technogeek - and Vince Klortho the Key (to it all) Master on top of it - on the run during this epic failing of the world around them departs again too much from that initial concept. This sounds like it could be massaged into an okay movie outside of the franchise, but Die Hard this is not.
June 2, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST
BAY BOYS?? DIE HARD2??? HOSTAGE???? This films GOTTA suck! Besides, whenever the script is so bad it needs a rewrite, it's DESTINED to suck! Without exception! Actually Klink, you are right, DH3 was originally NOT a Die Hard movie but some clever guy at the studio realised they could make the lead John Maclean and it could work - AND IT DID! I also loved it - it shat all over the second one, that's FOR SURE! Also, I know it was supposed to be a joke, but I couldn't help but think, you know Ashton Kutcher COULD WORK as the son in this, no?
June 2, 2006, 10:25 p.m. CST
by Alonzo Mosely
It opens with Bruce Willis pulling an abolutely knock-out, much younger woman, we then settle in for 10 minutes of hot bedroom action, before his heart gives out, and the chick giggles as she said "He died hard", and then reveals herself to be Olga Gruber, daughter of a certain Hans. The rest of the movie should consist of just showing a cleaned-up version of the original Die Hard. The End.
June 2, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST
by Col. Klink
Die Hard 2 was taken from the novel "58 Minutes" which was about terrorists taking over JFK airport. The reason it worked as a Die Hard sequel, and DH3 DIDN'T, was because the basic premise fit into what had been established about McClane and his world in the original picture. DH3 was just a Lethal Weapon wanna-be, and the box office reflected that.
June 3, 2006, 3:51 a.m. CST
But you'd better fucking shoot it on 80's grade 35 mm film with telephoto lenses and a poxy anamorphic lens. Other wise you'll end up with Die Hard in New York. And it better be set mostly in Chicago! That is all.
June 3, 2006, 4:03 a.m. CST
Regardless of the content it's a perfect sequel because it has the same basic premise as the first film while being a completely different film. I thought that was great. DH3 didn't feel right - AT ALL! But Willis does play the character well. And I'd like to see him in a situation where he remenises about this sort of shit always happening to the same guy. Although that scene in DH2 was Ghey. Not Gay. Ghey. Pure Butt sex Ghey.
June 3, 2006, 5:49 a.m. CST
...I agree with a lot of posters here...what made Die Hard so perfect was the cat and mouse nature of the story...2 and 3 did expand the settings (3 especially) but ultimately they were set in one place. And I also agree that Die Hard should be 'analogue' not 'digital' - the films had a certain semblence of being set in a real world and having lots of digital whooshes through phonelines just makes it sound like Hackers 2...the idea of a grown up son isn't too bad but McClane did the buddy thing in DH3 and it needs to go back to him being on his own again - why couldn't they do something different, maybe have the son being a junior tightass cop or something in utter shit and have it about McClane going in to rescue him from somewhere? Hence a new location? Up the personal stakes, keep it set in one day (as the other 3 were) and make him the lone hero again with a few minor sidekicks on the way...bad guy hackers? Come on! The villains of the first 3 films were vicious and trained armed bastards! And now we're having some revenge of the nerds shit? This isn't Die Hard and McClane isn't Jack Bauer.
June 3, 2006, 6:34 a.m. CST
but this sounds like absolute shit. The reason why Die Hard 1 and 2 worked so amazingly and Die Hard 3 sucked so fantastically is the setting. Die Hard 1 and 2 were very up-close, static, semi-claustraphobic settings. The excitement came from John being trapped in the same immediate environment as an assload of turrists, having to outwit, evade, and defeat them all at the same time. Die Hard 3 broke this formula, with dismal results. Watching John McClane driving around a city from place to place trying to fight an equally roaming band of terrorists simply was not interesting, in a way that made you glance at your watch in the theatre. Following this large-scale formula for Die Hard 4 will make for an equally sucky sequel. The secret to Die Hard success is intimacy, not grand-scale.
June 3, 2006, 9:53 a.m. CST
on CINESCAPE, they scooped that Scott Speedman is in the running to play the villian. They also mentioned that Bonnie+the news reporter are back and "The connection to the first film is the character Theo, the computer expert who worked for Hans Gruber, apparently."
June 3, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST
Having read the premise of this film, I am surprised that no one is talking about that instead of making post ironic comments about Bruce Willis and Hollywood in general. I am just as plugged in as the next guy, but what if something like this really happened? That is the real intellectual and important question raised by this review and script
June 3, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST
...doesn't take a genius to work out how this turd's going to play out does it? Son's a dysfunctional brat who happens to be a cyber nerd....oh pleeeze! I liked the first film but having bruce turn up and save mankind with his wayward brat is just plain ludicrous!! I hear the sound of a dead horse being flogged once again! This deserves to sink faster than Poseidon
June 4, 2006, 12:07 a.m. CST
Sure the movie would suck but they'd probably get a lot of people to pay to see Bruce beat the crap out of that snot nosed... punk (sorry about that). McClane's son should be 50 Cent. They wouldn't be able to explain how his son from the first movie somehow became a huge black man but 50'd kick ass and the movie would have a good sound track. Some horn rimmed coke bottle glasses should make him convincing as a computer hacker too. Hey, if they're gonna make a bad sequal they might as well go all out.
June 4, 2006, 2:47 a.m. CST
by Mr Cairo
June 4, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST
by dirty old len
This sounds shit. Like many of us i consider the original Die hard to be the (still) undefeated benchmark of the action film. The second was a bit silly, but fuck it it was still really enjoyable, and the third was a better buddy movie than the last 3 lethal weapons, but this sounds preposterous. If the powers that be are reading this, please, dont try and be clever, i know its the digital revolution and the internet is a good edge for exploitation, but please wake the fuck up and look at whats gone before. Sandra bullocks, The net anyone? Please dont fuck up a fantastic franchise with a slightly trendy cop out. Oh and please PLEASE dont give mclane an Ipod. Find some better product placement.
June 4, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST
by 'Cholera's Ghost
I agree with many here...that McClane doesn't deserve this. Dysfunctional computer nerd brat of a son? WTF??? Cliched like a motherfucker, plus it's stupid, plus it's annoying. Internet terrorists? That sounds like the most pussy terrorists of all time. Look, there's only so many crazy terrorist-laden situations one man can stumble into, so call it good already. I don't like to be a hater, but this is DIE HARD they're fucking with, man, and I calls 'em like I sees 'em.
June 4, 2006, 12:50 p.m. CST
by Captain Happy
UNDERWORLD was a turd of a movie. & now they're bringing in Wiseman to direct/RUIN the DIE HARD series??!! Are you kidding me??!! I hope Hollywood comes to their senses & sees that POTENTIALLY this is a great premise, that could be a FANTASTIC movie in the right hands...Don't let us down powers that be! Don't let us down!
June 4, 2006, 1 p.m. CST
by Captain Happy
Don't you guys get it??!! This could be a great premise because if the bad guys control computers & technology they could spread false information, send the cops & Homeland Security AFTER McClane & son, as McClane & son are trying to track down the baddies. The whole U.S. versus McClane & son, as McClane & son are trying to save the U.S. (which is a bit 24-ish - but that's why I & so many people like 24!!) - sounds like a great movie to me!
June 4, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
INSIDE MAN. For those who haven't seen it, wow what an unexpectedly great thriller. One of the only two Spike Lee movies I really loved. That was what a fourth John McLane story should be like: a bit smaller scale, and not necessarily having to do with terrorism per se. There are plenty of other types of villains in the world. Maybe it could be about corrupt politicans and a Jack Abramoff type scandal.
June 4, 2006, 5:11 p.m. CST
Anyone in the business who loses local control would have their systems up and running in a matter of hours at the most. Traffic, power, anything. Disconnect the outside lines and reboot from the local backups. These types of techno-plots are cringe-inducing.
June 5, 2006, 9:34 a.m. CST
by Childe Roland
So the terrorists in this one are a bunch of former aicn malcontents who want revenge on the bloated and corrupt sytem, representing Harry, who banned them at one time or another? Funny. Especially if they spend half the movie flaming Bruce's kid. Banned member: "You should date a real girl and move out of your mom's basement!" Bruce's kid: "LOL, douchebag. You suxxors!" Banned member: "Give me your home e-mail...I want to send you a virus." Bruce's kid: "YKYMF!"
Oct. 20, 2006, 4:38 p.m. CST
Oct. 21, 2006, 12:59 p.m. CST
"America has been thrown into complete shut-down, thrust into a modern Dark Ages (remember ESCAPE FROM L.A.?)" Remember THE PYRAMID OF DARKNESS??? Cue David Spade saying "I remember the FIRST time a terrorist organization tried to do this... when they were called COBRA."
June 26, 2007, 1:27 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
So the script has just been tweaked, with Mac kid replacing his son and his daughter thrown into the mix. No mention of PG-13? :-)
July 12, 2007, 5:35 p.m. CST
than the piece of shit that was released under the "Live Free or die hard" moniker... <p> I'm still waiting for a fourth DIE HARD. Shame on you Bruce!
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