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Fox dredges the UNDERWORLD for their director on DIE HARD 4.0!

Hey folks, Harry here... Fox, in an attempt to always find a better director than the last time out, has gone from John McTiernan to Len Wiseman, director of the UNDERWORLD films for their next installment of DIE HARD... which is apparently being called DIE HARD 4.0, where John McClane comes out of retirement to fight a gang of vicious Internet Terrorists! I'm sure they're not talking about John McClane fighting a group of geeks that have been doing person-2-person dvd burning or downloading of films currently in theaters... or... maybe they are. After all, Fox has ALIENS VS PREDATORS in a fucking Walmart... don't they? I remember reading that somewhere... oh yeah, Moriarty wrote that. Hmmmm...

P.S. Bari (talkbacker) - I never said X-MEN 3 wouldn't have a gigantic opening weekend. Only that I didn't like the film.

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  • May 31, 2006, 1:51 a.m. CST

    first?

    by mrtwig48

    am I

  • May 31, 2006, 1:51 a.m. CST

    note to werewolf/vampire guy:

    by Vern

    DON'T FUCKING BLOW IT.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:51 a.m. CST

    I was

    by mrtwig48

    Now I am officially a fan boy.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:52 a.m. CST

    by the way Harry

    by Vern

    They can't get McTiernan because he might be going to prison and can't necessarily rewrite the script to take place entirely in prison. Although that might be cool.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Well... Shit

    by Zeke2517

    Any hopes I had for this film just crashed and burned. Bruce Willis had been making some good films over the past few years. But Len Wiseman!? Jesus! Why?

  • May 31, 2006, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Dear Bruce WIllis,

    by uberman

    you clearly are getting desperate. Do yourself a favor:zip the gums and ditch the smarmy tough guy act. This jumped the shark about 20 years ago.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Chock up one more on the shit-o-meter...

    by Be like water

    ...for FOX. We all know whose brilliant choice this was...

  • May 31, 2006, 2:13 a.m. CST

    you are all so smart

    by tHEmOOG

    look what they did with xmen. oh i thought so

  • May 31, 2006, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Oh, a McTiernan Die Hard film wouldn've been good...

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    ...but he was naughty, naughty man, and its now going to someone I've never heard of. I officially have no hope for this.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Mctiernan

    by Fortunesfool

    Yeah, I would have loved to see a MCtiernan Die Hard as well....oh wait...he made the good two already.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Die Hard 4.2 ME

    by Noeland

    I'm going to file this in the "movies that no one is asking for" file, right next to Indy 4, Road House 2, Iron Eagle 12, and Terminator 4. What did I miss? Ginger Snaps 3? Jeepers Creepers 3? John should just STAY in retirement Bruce, don't bring him out. No one wants to see you in this film. NO ONE. And Len Wiseman should be making new films, not sequels to films that were released when was what 5 years old? Die Hard was 1988 yes? And if McTeirnan doesn't do to jail we have "Crash Bandits" and "Deadly Exchange" to look forward to him making. Don't those sound craptastic?

  • May 31, 2006, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I haven't seen either of the Underworld movies...

    by CoursinLarry

  • May 31, 2006, 2:27 a.m. CST

    by CoursinLarry

    but there's no way they are worse than Rollerball.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Noeland:

    by Monkey Butler

    You missed "I'll always know what you did last summer". I don't care that it's DTV, it still should have been taken out the back and had a coathanger jammed into logn ago. Yeah, I know that doesn't make sense, but I don't care. Also, what did McTiernan do? And finally, I think Len Wiseman needs to do more thinkin' and len wiseman...

  • May 31, 2006, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Isn't Wiseman dating Kate Beckinsale?

    by judderman

    Maybe that means we'll see her in DH4. If so I might be slightly interested. And John McTiernan's going to prison? What for, Last Action Hero? Must have been a long trial.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:55 a.m. CST

    4.0?

    by Ribbons

    If the plot for this movie has something to do with computers, I can see the 4 being written as "4.0" making a somewhat intriguing teaser poster, but titling your movie that? That ranks right up there with '2 Fast 2 Furious' as one of the worst "clever" sequel titles in recent history. Not that I'd be all that interested in seeing this movie anyway. Maybe they can retitle it 'Die Hard vs. Computers' and play it slightly tongue-in-cheek in order to grab that 'Snakes on a Plane' audience.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Give it to Ratner.

    by Mr Brownstone

    He was born to direct Die Hard IV.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Len Wiseman

    by Psyclops

    That's funny, I remember turning to my friend after seeing UNDERWORLD 2 and saying that it was practically DIE HARD with Vampires and Werewolves. I'm not entirely against having Len Wiseman take a crack at this, I actually enjoyed the hell out of EVOLUTION. His films so far have been deeply flawed and barely above mediocre, but they were entertaining and you can tell that the guy has an ambitious vision. I think he can handle the action with no problem, it's the story I'm worried about. Internet terrorists? It's not Snakes On A Plane, that's for sure.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:11 a.m. CST

    I miss manly man movies.

    by Mr Brownstone

    No, Tyrese doesn't count. This better be a hard R with cussing and blood, and 'sploding baddies.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:14 a.m. CST

    If Wiseman (there's a contradiction)

    by deanamatronix

    casts Kate Beckinsale in this, I'll tear my own eyeballs out. She is the death knell for any movie she plays the central female role in, the talentless git.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Harry, Rothman is laughing his ass of at you now.

    by Bari Umenema

    You have zero credibility now Knowles. None. X3 made $120 million opening weekend you hated every minute of it thought it would tank didn't think there was enough production time and so on. Go make Ghost Town with your buddy Todd Garner. However I will agree with you or whoever reviewed that piece of shit AVP2 script. That's craptacular. But X3 is a home run.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST

    DON'T MAKE A 4th ONE!!

    by Steve Rogers

    Seriously, leave the trilogy as the well-made, classic (the first one - best action film EVER), daftly entertaining (the second one) and cranked up rollercoaster(the third)s that they are. Another one now with saggy old McClane more than a decade on - fighting cyber terrorists???? Puh-leaze - would be shit. Don't spoil the legacy. And without McTiernan??? Heresy.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:20 a.m. CST

    fuck that shit

    by newc0253

    underworld blows like my ass. why not ask mctiernan to do the fourth?

  • May 31, 2006, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Fortunesfool

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    But ANOTHER one I mean. Jesus.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:27 a.m. CST

    Some say...

    by Bodhizattwa

    that sequels to Die Hard and Indiana Jones are unwanted. That's bullshit. At least Indy Jones will be a huge hit, and people are yearning to see it.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:34 a.m. CST

    so what did J.Mc. do that was so jailable?

    by BendersShinyAss

    oh thats right, he made that Vikings film. And DH3. Jesus, they're throwing him away just for that??

  • May 31, 2006, 3:36 a.m. CST

    John Mctiernan

    by glodene

    I think Mr. Mctiernan has a more pressing concern, like staying out of jail, due to his involvement with the whole phone tapping debacle with Pelicano. Btw Kate Beckinsale and Len Wiseman are married.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Underworld Evolution

    by Babyshamble

    was fucking awful. Stupid boring bullshit, which is a shame because Beckinsale is quite a good actress, she's just in a lot of crap. Len Wiseman is shit and what could have been a fun movie will now suck.

  • May 31, 2006, 4:10 a.m. CST

    FOX IS FUCKED

    by kwisatzhaderach

    How many more franchises can they fuck up? They've alreay torpedoed the ALIEN and X-MEN franchises, why not DIE HARD too?!!!!!!!

  • May 31, 2006, 4:24 a.m. CST

    'viscious Internet Terrorists'

    by MKiro

    Once again, you demonstrate your extraordinary editing skills.... and the contempt in which you hold your readers.

  • May 31, 2006, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Yeah! From McTiernan to some worm that pissed out...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    ...the worst "horror" of the last 40 years (well, maybe a little bit better than the remake of Texas Chainsaw, but what isn't better than that?) Let me guess, Willis will have a rebelious teen goth daughter in this one? And I can't wait to see those terrorists doing their 1337 h4x0ring with their floating Matrix fonts and schizoid flashing 3D graphical GUIs on giant monitors, with nu metal in background.

  • May 31, 2006, 4:46 a.m. CST

    HARRY, WASN'T AVP2 SUPPOSED TO BE IN A F'N K-MART?

    by Shermdawg

  • May 31, 2006, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Just as long as Spears or Timberlake aren't involved...

    by TheSeeker7

    Don't get me wrong, as John McClane is my favorite individual movie character of all time, it severely depresses me that Fox is taking this long gestating project "so seriously" that they've put their top guy aka Wasserman on it, but.... do we all remember the couple different times when we read things like Britney Spears was attached to play all grown up Lucy McClane, and/or Justin Timberlake was attached to play the all grown up boy McClane (forget the son's name). So, yea, it's bad enough that this douchebag is gonna direct, but if it turned out either one of those was still involved, I swear I'd firebomb the entire FOX lot.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:16 a.m. CST

    It's "vicious", Harry, "vicious"

    by Trazadone

    My God, man, check your spelling before you post to the world. Spelling errors like this make you seem dumb.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:33 a.m. CST

    So long as John McClain meets Jack Bauer...

    by Drath

    To be honest I don't need another John McClain movie. It won't be Die Hard, it won't even be Die Harder or With A Vengance. It'll be Desperate Attempt to Make Money With Name Recognition and Little Effort Part MXXVVII. So long as they are doing that, they might as well give us something with some balls. Not just one but TWO guys who keep having bad days.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:57 a.m. CST

    cant wait to see willis doing wire stunts

    by dr.bulber

    as he kicks mutha fuckin web troll ass. watch out for the lolz. they are really a nasty bunch. so are the stfu-ers and the gtfo-ers. then theres the roflmao-ers. i think this movie might get overstuffed with too many troll cameos.

  • May 31, 2006, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Bender'sshinyass...

    by judderman

    Apparently, it's some really complicated and rather scary stuff about a PI, a wiretap, and lying under oath. Very scary, very federal. This could get serious for the guy. Shame. He made some good movies in his day.

  • May 31, 2006, 6:34 a.m. CST

    What McTiernan did wrong?

    by badboymason

    Rollerball "reimagining" anybody? God, after that atrocity alone the man shouldn't be allowed within 100 yards of a movie set...

  • May 31, 2006, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Zack Snyder would have been better!

    by RKO Classic

    He did a fantastic job on the Dawn Of The Dead remake. The guy knows action!

  • May 31, 2006, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Neil Marshall...

    by RKO Classic

    would also be a great choice!

  • May 31, 2006, 6:50 a.m. CST

    DAMN YOU, ROTHMAN! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLLLLLL

    by masheen81

  • May 31, 2006, 6:57 a.m. CST

    So is it in Bruce Willis's contract to do this?

    by Nice Marmot

    Or does he just not give a fuck anymore?

  • May 31, 2006, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Not Sure

    by THE KNIGHT

    I'm not too sure about this but I do know I'll be there to see it. I'm really missing the "manly" action of the 80s and if they can bring that back with this film.. I'm there... -_-

  • May 31, 2006, 7:37 a.m. CST

    DIE HARD 4: THE QUICKENING

    by Kubla_Khan

    McClane's wife is framed for murder and put in a maximum secrity prison. Meanwhile McClane is kidnapped by a group of SAS types and wakes up in a Bangkok prison, with nothing but a vest and a home-made shank on the floor beside him. Basically he as to break out of one naximum security prison and INTO another. The body count is in the high hundreds. The guns are enormous, McClane is back and Mctiernan can direct it from behind bars! I rule!

  • May 31, 2006, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Die 4.0: LOL PWND!!1

    by durhay

    Can't wait to not see this movie.

  • May 31, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    He fights the Lawnmower Man in this

    by durhay

  • May 31, 2006, 7:54 a.m. CST

    DIE HARD 4: Aw, Jeeze, Please Just Die Already

    by kevinwillis.net

    It would just be better everybody. Hopefully in this one, John McLane actually dies. Hard. If that's in it, I might see it. That, and if the lead terrorist is a large, rdheaded geek named Harry, who throws exploding DVDs. That would be worth seeing.

  • May 31, 2006, 8:02 a.m. CST

    TRY HARD FOR

    by future help

    a good movie for once...FOX!

  • May 31, 2006, 8:04 a.m. CST

    I thought "With A Vengeance" was terrible...

    by BigTuna

    So Mctiernan should move on. Why did they think that film needed Sam Jackson to make it a "buddy" film?

  • May 31, 2006, 8:21 a.m. CST

    A message to all Fox apologist...

    by Lost Skeleton

    Huge Opening Weekend does not equal a good movie.

  • May 31, 2006, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Oh come on..DH3 was pretty good, apart from Jezza Irons

    by Big_Bubbaloola

    and his terrible German accent!! Apart from that, it was a nice change from the first 2 films. "Are you aiming for these people McClane!!" "No of course not!....well maybe that mime" Love it.

  • May 31, 2006, 8:30 a.m. CST

    What the fuck is an internet terrorist?

    by sevadro

    They just make this shit up as they go along don't they? Lenny boy is a fucking hack. The Underworld movies should've went straight to video. They're n o better that those low budget hood flicks you see in Blockbuster. I was so sure that part 3 of that bullshit series would be his last movie (after which he would've slipped sweetly away into that good night) and I wouldn't have had to hear about his metrosexual, lucky to be fucking Beckinsale, no original style or talent ass taking over one of my favorite franchises. FUCK!

  • May 31, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Must Costar Sandra Bullock

    by CaptDanielRoe

    Every movie in which "The Net" is evil and the enemy uses it to somehow directly affect the real world, must feature Sandra Bullock. This sounds lame as hell. Oh and the definition of an internet terrorist is anyone who criticizes the executive branch, meaning sixty-one percent of the population.

  • May 31, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Die Hard 4 should definitely be set in a prison.

    by FatPaul

    The plot almost writes itself. John McLane is serving time for a crime he didn't commit, but then the prison is taken over by terrorists, Half Past Dead-style. McLane is the only prisoner who isn't still stuck in his cell because he was talking with the warden when the terrorists attacked. And through the whole movie, the terrorists think it's a crazy prison guard that's picking off their men. If they want to keep the "internet terrorist" theme, then they can have it be some kind of high-tech prison with lasers and shit, and the terrorists could be holding the internet for ransom with their high-tech prison computers. This project could make history by being the first blockbuster action film ever shot by a director who was serving a prison sentence at the time. Ideally, they would ignore the existance of Die Hard With A Vengeance and just call this one Die Hardest.

  • May 31, 2006, 8:58 a.m. CST

    DIE HARD 4: SNAKES ON A PLANE!

    by fiester

    C'mon...it's a natural fit.

  • May 31, 2006, 9:22 a.m. CST

    this will be awful

    by twitaman

    I love the first two Die Hard movies, and even found things to like about the third. This fourth installment seems like it will be terrible.

  • May 31, 2006, 9:23 a.m. CST

    This movie need to star Chloe...

    by Elmore Rigby

    yes, Chloe from 24, not John McClane. You are telling me a 50-year old ex-cop is going to stop the MySpace terrorists? Why not put CTU's finest in charge?

  • May 31, 2006, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Wait a second...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    People actually enjoyed "X-Men:3"? I know people went to go see it, but I had no idea people actually liked it. The audience I watched it with laughed at it most of the way through. Hmm. Especially that scene where Beast wants to close the school and then Storm's all like, "No... The school will stay open." YAY! It's like they had three days to write that entire script. "I have an idea!" "What?" "You know how the first two movies have really good prologues?" "Yeah." "Well... why don't we have TWO prologues, but make them both shitty?" "Sounds GREAT!" YAY!

  • May 31, 2006, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Die Hard 4

    by Fernwick_

    I personally think that Die Hard I & 2 are pretty awesome, though 2 was cheesy, it had the same general feeling as I. Now Die Hard 3 was just plain STOOPID. I say please just give it to a GOOD director who KNOWS what do to with it. Hell I would even say Ratner, he is the best damn copycat in the directors market today. If they cant get Singer, or someone GOOD. Give it to him, say "Make it like the first one" and BOOM its gonna be good. Now it wont be GREAT, but we just wanna go OOOOOO and AAAAAAAHHHH.... anyone else agree? Hamferno www.theidiottestament.com

  • May 31, 2006, 9:56 a.m. CST

    FatPaul- shit you beat me to it!

    by brycemonkey

    That would be a great solution. Although I thought that if you are a Hollywood person they let you out to make films? See R Downey Jnr on numerous occasions. I like him, he's batshit crazy...

  • May 31, 2006, 10 a.m. CST

    TOO SOON!

    by Blanket-Man

    DH3 was just 11 years ago, way too fresh in my mind. Hath Fox no tact?!?

  • May 31, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST

    If Wiseman directs this movie I will not see it

    by Doc_McCoy

    Not even on DVD. What a fucking joke.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:03 a.m. CST

    nnnooooo!

    by CuervoJones

    that director is lame. Get McTiernan

  • May 31, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST

    I don't want McClane sat at a computer for 2 hours!

    by performingmonkey

    This sounds like it would be a better idea for a 24 movie, but who knows.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Hey Vern

    by IAmLegolas

    Since he's directing your main man, Bruce Willis (well, maybe second main man to Mr. Seagal), I guess you best get to reviewing UNDERWORLD 1 & 2 like I asked you nicely to do months ago on a talkback for an unrelated movie that I forgot the name of. You did post back to me that you'd have to watch the first movie to review the second properly, you may not remember. Thank you for your time, sir.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Apparently Bruce Doesn't Get It: Underworld Ain't Cool

    by stlfilmwire

    You will hate me for saying that, but I am sorry. Oh well.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Fuck no!!!

    by DerLanghaarige

    I saw a lots of bad films in my life, but there were only three which were so bad, that I couldn't see them till the end. One of them was Underworld. Yes, I got the DVD of House Of The Dead at home and I watched it twice, but Underworld sucked too hard for me. I thought Florent Emilio Siri was the McTiernan substitute? Yes, Hostage didn't made well at the B.O., but Siri is a much better director than Wiseman! Fuck Fox!

  • May 31, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Die Hard 3 had a bad script, but it was well directed

    by CuervoJones

    Do you know the difference between a scripwriter and a director?

  • May 31, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Get Stephen Fry as the villain and it will rock

    by Spacesheik

    a rotund 6,4 englishmen known for his caustic wit and his portrayal of 'oscar wilde' - he could be a new alan rickman type

  • May 31, 2006, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Even Kate Beckinsale couldnt save...

    by Fernwick_

    Underworld. I mean Kate, in full leather, skin tight, with guns, and bad ass attitude? It had potential, but it just never really connected. Maybe it needed to take it self a BIT less serious... Dunno, but I watch it over without the sound. Anyone else agree? Hamferno www.theidiottestament.com

  • May 31, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST

    The only people that hate xmen are you big NERDS.

    by Spice-Orange

    and it still seems split between comic book fans. if you can get past what they changed from the comics, its a great movie. people who don't know the comics- aka: 90% of America- will have loads of fun with this movie and THAT'S why its gonna be so amazingly successful. Superman? havent we seen that movie, like, 5 times? we get it, he's strong. grar. almost as over done as king kong. didn't Harry like that movie too? ...how can a movie reviewer have SUCH bad taste in movies? Does he like Jackson's Bad Taste? because THAT was bad ass. Derek's never give up, you know.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Jesus, FOX...

    by Harry Weinstein

    Well, at least it's not Renny Harlin. But he probably wasn't returning their calls. I ought to go hang out in front of the studio, cause I swear at this point they're just pulling guys in off the street to direct shit. Inbreeding. It's the only explanation I've got. People in LA need to stop getting their sisters pregnant.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    And this goes in the same category as INDY 4 -

    by Harry Weinstein

    TOO LATE!!!!

  • May 31, 2006, 10:58 a.m. CST

    LEN WISEMAN IS F'ing RUBBISH.

    by Foxman

    What are they thinking, he sucks so much arse it's not even funny. Bad Bad move FOX - you idiots.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Wiseman Is Like Three Shades Away from Uwe Boll.

    by heywood jablomie

    Makes Brett Ratner look like Cassavetes.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Harry... you kinda did say that X Men wouldnt be big.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Not any time lately but one of the hallmark moments in the history of this website was when you claimed that your trashing of Batman Forever (or whatever it was) led to its failure at the box office. By that measure that you created for yourself, Aintitcool.com has lost all relevancy.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Exactly: too late

    by hank henshaw

    It's been well over a decade since With a Vengance. Can't FOX just take whatever script they are calling Die Hard 4.0, rewrite it a little, and use it for something new? Leave John McLane alone.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:32 a.m. CST

    OK stop with the X3 stuff...

    by andrew coleman

    First off I know many people who are really not nerdy who hated X3, and I mean really hated it more than me. Also every day X3 drops a huge percent and except for Bret Ratner and a handfull of fucking retards who will see it twice. Anyway Wiseman will have Bruce fighting warewolves or vamps in DH4 because that's all he can do. He sucks the underworld movies were popcorn fair bs, which I guess many people in the site believe those films are beautiful if you stand to defend FF and X3 so proudly as most of you do. If Wiseman directs I will never see this film, period.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    If I may add something to Harry Weinstein:

    by moviemaniac-7

    Too Old! Come on, Bruce (and Harrison) are too old for this shit, but need these milk cows to get some of their lost cred back with the big audiences. Okay, Harrison more than Bruce, but damn it - Willis hasn't been doing too good lately. Die Hard 4 is a bad idea and has been kicked around too much to be really interesting, although I remember a treatment that was mentioned in the late 1990s about Die Hard in a underwater city - which would be cool, I guess.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Breaking news! Len Wiseman is a good director!

    by Doom II

    If the Underworld series is any indication, he knows how to shoot action scenbes better than most of the worshipped directors on this site. Yes Harry, that includes your Mexican director (DelTorro?) that did Blade 2 and Hellboy (I would take Underworld 2 over those turde ANY day of the week).

  • May 31, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I am a death dealah,

    by I Dunno

    What's with all these sequals that should have been made in the 90's? And I agree with the poster above. They don't need John McClaine, they need Chloe.

  • May 31, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Fucking typos...scenes and turds....Underword 2 ROCKED

    by Doom II

    I went with 3 friends and we walked out thinking how that movie delivered on every level. Bad ass action scenes, lots of guns, massive gore, gothic settings, no dull stretches. If you didn't like Underworld Evolution, you need to go back to geek school.

  • May 31, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST

    A couple of things

    by Lando Griffin

    First - As much as I love the Die Hard Trilogy, another one is very unnecessary. (Goddamn the end of part three was so fucking anti-climatic) Second - It would've been nice to throw McTiernan a gig seeing how he did some cool shit back in the day but his legal problems probably took away from that. Third - As far as Wiseman and Underworld - it could go either way. I thought the first Underworld was largely forgettable but the second one I thought was pretty cool. Not a classic by any means but a lot of cool actions scenes and gore. It was fun and entertaining. Fourth - Beckinsale is a goddess. Lastly - Harrys Fox vendetta is getting old and will probably not be over until he has Rothmans job. (Yes we know AVP sucks as, can we move past the obvious now?)

  • May 31, 2006, 12:08 p.m. CST

    I didn't spend a penny on X-Men 3, per Harry's request

    by Rupee88

    Actually, he seemed to suggest seeing a matinee show, which still didn't make sense, as you are still giving money to the filmmakers to encourage them to make more shit movies. But I did the right thing, unlike most of you, and didn't pay to see it. I will catch it down the line via the newsgroups.

  • May 31, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    can FOX get any dumber?

    by quadrupletree

    Answer: no. God I hope the answer is no...

  • May 31, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST

    If He Can Turn A Werewolf Vs Vampire Movie

    by flamingrunt

    (that also features Kate Bekinsale in a skin tight rubber outfit) Into one of the most mundane, boring pieces of shit to hit the silver screen in years. Then whats going to happen when he has Baldy Bruce Willis and a story about the internet?

  • May 31, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    No, Len Wiseman is NOT a good director.

    by DerLanghaarige

    He was just ripping off the whole Matrix-stuff with slow motion fights and so on. And this in the most boring way.

  • What the hell does this piece of news have to do with X-Men? Do you just like to flip Harry off anytime you see him write an article now? Sweet Christmas, people. Weren't those nasty Browncoats reviled for hijacking other threads last fall? I guess when the series is popular, you're allowed to get away with obnoxious behavior.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    I've been waiting for another Die Hard but...

    by Neo Zeed

    they shouldn't make this. The kids today can't direct action. They're too in love with Wire-fu, quick cuts, techno, CGI explosions, and skaky cam. We should at least wait until that movie "Shoot 'Em Up" with Clive Owen comes out, to see if at least one person can unplug themselves from the Matrix for five minutes. (I hope). Then we'll talk about Die Hard 4.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Die Hard IV: Is This Trip Really Necessary?

    by Childe Roland

    While I'm sure this news has AB King creaming in his jeans, it really just makes me sad. Not only has the character of John McClane been plumbed just about as deep as he can possibly go, but this premise has been fucked six-ways-to-Sunday by everyone in Hollywood for the last 18 years. Seriously. It's been done and redone so many times that the following phrase graduated from actually Hollywood pitch-speak to the official movie-mocking lexicon before the turn of the century: "It's Die Hard on a [INSERT NEW AND UNIQUE LOCATION HERE]. Since the original, we've had Die Hards on a plane (too numerous to name), Die Hard on a boat (Under Seige & Speed 2), Die Hard on a bus (Speed), Die Hard in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory and even Die Hard in a mansion starring Bruce Willis as someone other than but uncannily similar to John McClane (Hostage, anyone?). There is even less need for Bruce to go back to this well than there is for Stallone to revisit either the Rocky or Rambo franchises (unless those two didn't have the same creative exit strategy from Planet Hollywood that the Governator clearly had). Someon needs to enlist Dr. Kevorkian to help this premise and this franchise to die...hard...with a vengeance.

  • May 31, 2006, 1:57 p.m. CST

    DerLanghaarige...He CREATED Underworld.

    by Doom II

    Len Wiseman wasn't some "gun for hire" for the Underworld series. He created it. So that alone puts him heads above a lot of directors out there who just show up and shoot someone else's story. Ok, he "borrowed" some Matrix stuff for the first film, so did every other action movie since the Matrix. Underworld Evolution was fucking fantastic. Disagree all you want. Everyone I know liked or loved that film. I cannot wait until the dvd release. I thought it was as close to perfect as you can get for the genre, but I also like Harmony Korine, Werner Herzog and Terrence Malick movies, so my taste is not mainstream.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Serious question, Doom II...

    by Childe Roland

    ...since you seem to know the Underworld: Is there any truth to the rumnor that Wiseman "borrowed" quite a bit of the basis for his stories from a role playing game and didn't credit that source? I heard that from a gamer who refused to see the movies on these grounds (can't recall the name of the game as I've never played it myself). If so, the fact that he borrowed from the Matrix as well has a certain karmic symmetry to it, as the Wachowskis pretty much ripped off another story for the meat of their trilogy.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Die Hard 3 was a nice rollercoaster ride

    by digital8

  • May 31, 2006, 2:32 p.m. CST

    You Are Legolas

    by Vern

    You are absolutely right, I already realized that before you pointed it out, too. You are ahead of your time. I will pay more attention to your future requests too. You know what you're doing. (by the way though, didn't they already announce it was gonna be the Hostage guy at one point? I guess we'll know when it starts shooting.)

  • May 31, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Yippee Ki Yay, motherfuckers

    by slone13

    Bitch all you want, whiney haters. John McClane is coming back no matter how much you cry about it.

  • May 31, 2006, 2:50 p.m. CST

    "Any cracks or keygens for DI3 H4RD 4.0.1 beta yet"?

    by SalvatoreGravano

    Oh, Lord. Will they ever learn? Internet "threats" do not constitute good film material. Unless they're named Shimomura and Markoff, in which case they're a comedy goldmine.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Computer Based Thrillers Are Just Crap

    by flamingrunt

    The way they have to always get to a terminal or lug a laptop around with them. Since the last one weve had Jack Bauer and jack Bristow so John Mclains going to have crank it up a notch

  • May 31, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST

    " Can Fox get any dumber"

    by Fernwick_

    Lets see, there is how they treated Singer, and X3, and then there is Arrested Development, and then there is the loss of Firefly. Dont think it can get much worse. Fernwick www.theidiottestment.com

  • May 31, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST

    The Die Hard movies set the tone for "24"

    by zencat

    I mean, think about it. One man against big odds and lots of baddies, a definite "countdown" structuring the plots, moving more or less in real time, much running / gunning / cliffhanger situations occurring more or less in real time. Sure it took a while to filter down to TV in a workable series format, but I do think the DH films planted the general idea. Well, they and certain videogames.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:37 p.m. CST

    FUCK THAT TWUNT!

    by calami-shami

    count me out.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST

    unless...

    by calami-shami

    the villian is Hans Gruber's sister. Nah, nevermind.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST

    The Die Hard sub-genre should be laid to rest

    by Aston Lad

    Just 2 sequels? Perhaps, but the endless clones throughout the 90s make me feel like I've seen 20 Die Hards. And most of them weren't worthy of the 1988 film that inspired them. A handful were good, but the sub-genre doesn't need resurrecting.

  • May 31, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't it be Die Hard 4ever!

    by StudioPlant69

    Die Hard 4skin! Die Hard 4play! Die Hard 4score! Die Hard 4me! Die Hard 4some! The internet terrorist (chuckle) should be an overweight 30something, redhead guy, with high cholesterol, high blood pressure, pre diabetic, congestive heart failure, kidney disease, bad back, and bad knees who creates a doomsday program that will replace all porn with movies by Paul W.S. Anderson... and he'll have a hot 19 year old girlfriend... GFY

  • May 31, 2006, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Yippe Ki-Yay Motherfuckers.

    by Det. John Kimble

    Start shelling out your hard earned dollars for this highly polished turd.

  • May 31, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Id Like To See The "Moonlighting" Bruce Willis Again

    by flamingrunt

    You know the one with the charisma and the perfect comic delivery? Id even take a twelve monnkeys Bruce. But what we dont need is another Hostage, or Tears of the Sun Bruce. And i fear Die Hard 4 will give us more of the latter

  • May 31, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST

    didn't 24 already do internet terrorists?

    by Maniaq

    Personally I say BRING IT ON! If anyone can make this into a good movie, I trust Len Wiseman to do it - the only thing I hold against him is his wife is fucking hot!! You bastard! I understand if people are all vampired out and didn't really give the Underworlds a chance - I know a coupla people like that - and maybe my taste is not your taste? I loved the Underworld movies while I never got into the Blade movies... I thought the first two Xmen movies were ok, but number 3 was actually kinda great. Same with Mission Impossible. And Die Hard 3 shat all over 2. Anyhow taste is a matter of opinion. And yours is wrong.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Childe Roland...Wiseman story rumor...

    by Doom II

    I heard it also. I don't play RPG's but that rumor may be true. George Lucas "borrowed" 90% of the ideas in Star Wars from westerns, war films and sci-fi movies he grew up with. I don't worship Wiseman, but I think he has a great eye for action and visuals. For a smaller budget film, Underworld 2 pulled off some effects shots that were much better than anything in Van Helsing (which had more than twice the budget). I will defend the Underworld series to a point. They delivered on the whole "Vampires Vs Werewolves" bit. Citizen Kane they were not.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, I won't see Die Hard 4 in a theater...

    by Doom II

    I like Wiseman and McTiernam, I loved Die Hard, hated Die Hard 2 (Renny Harlin is a plague on filmmaking second only to Tony Scott) and thought Die Hard 3 was pointless. You can fool me twice, but not a third time. I don't give a shit who's directing it and how much money they throw into it, Die Hard is over as a franchise. They should have left it at one movie and stayed legendary.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Oh, I'm not passing judgement if the rumor's true...

    by Childe Roland

    ...Doom II. I actually enjoyed the first Underworld for what it was and plan to rent the second to see how it compares. And I do agree that the visual style of the first borrowed heavily from the Matrix (just saw some irony in that). As for Lucas' borrowing for Star Wars, I see that more as wearing one's influences on one's sleeve. He truly did some patchwork to create those original trilogy tapestries (I think the only scenes he pretty much lifted whole hog from anything else were the TIE/X-Wing battles in "A New Hope," which were modeled on WWII movie dogfight footage). He wasn't like a Tarantino, who will essentially paraphrase another work in its entirety (albeit quite well in Resrvoir Dogs) and I wouldn't equate it to what I understand of this Wiseman/RPG rumor. Essentially, the guy who relayed it to me characterized Underworld as an unlicensed fan fic. set in the game's universe...complete with clan names, characters and locations. If true, that's a bit different than what George and even QT did. If anyone else has more info, I'd be curious...particularly to know if anyone got sued or settled.

  • May 31, 2006, 5:47 p.m. CST

    They could just re-issue Last Boyscout as Die Hard 3.9

    by pokadoo

    Nobody remembers it and you get the rough-shaven, Sarcastic, hung-over Bruce from Die Hard 3. Re-dub some of the lines and digitaly graft Samual L Jackson's head on top of Damon Wayans and you got yourself a new Die Hard flick. But with HAIR! It would cost about twelve dollars. Seriously!

  • May 31, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Glodene's Script Treatment for D.H. 4

    by glodene

    It begins in a courtroom where John McClane & the Mrs's have finally decided to call it quits via divorce court. In a courtroom down the hall, a high profile criminal trial is being conducted, when all of a sudden, some bad-ass highly motivated gansta rappers with guns bust in to spring P. Diddy or Lil' Kim, (take your pick). All mayhem ensues and before John & the Mrs's can sign the (it's over) papers, John springs into action saves the day by thwarting 50 cents & G Units' insideous plans of subjecting the music world with more of P. Diddy's/Lil' Kims' shitty music and falls back in love with the Mrses while walking hand in hand to the nearest Motel 6 to re-consumate their relationship while the thumping Dr. Dres' re-mixed version of Muskrat Love is caressing the viewing audience ears and hearts with a newfound sense of luv'. Yo! I don't know about y'all, but this has Oscar written all over it.

  • May 31, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    guess I'm one of the few who liked DH3

    by TheSeeker7

    Was it a perfect film? No, far from it. But I thought it was a quite enjoyable, adventurous ride of a summer action movie. ANYTHING was far better than that Renny Harlin-"directed" (ahem) debacle of DH2, that was just bad bad stuff.

  • May 31, 2006, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Childe Roland..Hey, I'm a Star Wars fan...

    by Doom II

    and not bashing Lucas, but he does admit to using things that influenced him as a kid in the series. Underworld 2 in the theater was wicked. Much better than the first (which I liked, but don't put in the dvd player too much). There are about five of those "Oh shit!" moments in Underworld 2. The final battle with an out of control helicopter, the head werewolf with several soldier werewolves and just Selene and Michael (in creature form) in an old castle was about 15 minutes of straight coolness.

  • May 31, 2006, 8:30 p.m. CST

    John McClane vs. thepiratebay.org

    by Tall_Boy

    Actually, McClane busting heads of movie downloaders (or at least an off-the-cuff reference to the terrorists downloading) sounds like a masturbatory thing that Hollywood would love. They fuckin made that Paparazi movie, didn't they?

  • May 31, 2006, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Die Hard 4.0, Theatrical Release...

    by Antz

    Die hard 4.1 Special Edition DVD. Die Hard 4.2 Unrated Edition DVD. Die Hard 4.3 Directors' Cut DVD. Die Hard 4.4 Ultimate Edition DVD. Die Hard 4.5 Collectors' 4-Disc set. Die Hard 4.6 Re-mastered Hi Def Disc... The Studios are just coming up with a new user-friendly naming system to make it easier for you the consumer to keep track of how many times you have been fleeced.

  • May 31, 2006, 9:14 p.m. CST

    whats with all the hatin?

    by misnomer

    bruce can still sell it,(hostage was almost great but decided to turn into the crow at some point) and itll be great to see a macho film with balls again-no unconvincing girls in catsuits please hollywood. (unless theyre villains) Internet terrorists>gold diggers in the jungle-thank fuck that script didnt get made, although I really dont see how they can do a die hard that isnt about terrorism or without explosions....(wonder howll theyll replace the new orleans flooding scene?)

  • May 31, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST

    and vengance ruled yer arse

    by misnomer

  • May 31, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Fernwick you forgot

    by quadrupletree

    AVP and AVP2-"The Battle for Wal-Mart" and F4. But yeah, I don't think it can get much worse over there at FUX.

  • May 31, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST

    GAME OVER MAN!!! GAME OVER!!!!!!

    by ALUCINOR11

    Well that's that mattress man. Fox has fucked up Die Hard. It will be impossible to fuck with Bruce Willis who will remain awesome regardless, but fucking christ guys get your head out of your asses and make some fucking GOOD movies!!!!!!!!!

  • May 31, 2006, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Seems only right that Paul Gleason....

    by ALUCINOR11

    died right near the date the Die Hard franchise died too YAY!!! FUCK!!!!

  • May 31, 2006, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Does he shot spammers in the head?

    by Big Bad Clone

    because that would be worth... downloading

  • May 31, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    "hello computer"

    by christ_opher

    for some reason i dont see john mclain as being that computer savy. they should steal a scene from star trek 4 when scotty goes up to the mac, picks up the mouse and speaks into it "hello computer"

  • May 31, 2006, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Will Zombie Paul Gleason make an appearance?

    by Osmosis Jones

    And Die Hard 2 is one of the best (and most misunderstood) sequels of all time. With A Vengeance was a mess.

  • May 31, 2006, 10:53 p.m. CST

    DIE

    by WolfmanNards

    McTiernan is one of my all time favorite directors. His die hards, and Predator are some of the best movies made. Fuck anybody that doesnt allow him to direct.

  • June 1, 2006, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Tabarnak, mr. brownstone said it!

    by OurManInMontr

    Give this handful of shit to Ratner. Y'know, make sure.

  • June 1, 2006, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Underworld was a cliche ridden waste of time...

    by Bong

    tight black leather, holds two guns, kills a thousand people by herself, vampire, werewolves, etc... What a good way to send the Die Hard series into mediocrity

  • June 1, 2006, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Why not "Die Hard 4-Eva"?

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    or Die Hard With A Vengeance, squared.

  • June 1, 2006, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Die Hard 3 wasn't Die Hard...

    by moto

    It was a good stand alone movie, but it wasn't Die Hard. Die Hard is its own genre. Die Hard is John McClane (or whoever) against the bad guys. DH3 made it into this whole Simon Sez (the original spec script that they used) thing which was a cool idea, but not a Die Hard movie. This 4.0 thing doesn't sound that great. Sounds dated. I'd prefer McClane on a cruise liner on vacation with the wife and kids and all hell breaks loose. And no, Speed 2 was not really Die Hard on a boat. I'll give you Seagal's movie, which was actually awesome, but it still could be a great sequel staying true to the original concept, just on a cruiseliner. Generic? Sure. What action movie that has grown into a classic isn't generic?

  • June 1, 2006, 12:53 a.m. CST

    It means 4.0 stars out of 10.0 ...this news sucks.

    by JDanielP

    But who knows? If they have a killer script, this flick might surprise us all. This director does seem to have an eye for the camera, so I'll give'm that much credit. {Good luck. I love the "DIE HARD" trilogy.}

  • June 1, 2006, 1:15 a.m. CST

    That SCRIPT REVIEW OF DIE HARD 4...

    by masheen81

    http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=15 " So basically World War 3.com is the basis for Die Hard 4.0 So what's John McClane up to these days? He no longer is a cop for the NYPD, he's divorced, he's much older, in and out of Alcoholic's Anonymous and he is now a cop who is out of place working for the Department of Homeland Security. His old boss BOWMAN and him go back to the NYPD and Bowman hooked him up with the gig. McClane catches hackers now for a living as demonstrated in the opening scene as he catches a hacker named MATT FOWLER at Pennsylvania University and brings him back in his 65' mustang to Washington. The diehard series is all about McClane being at the wrong place at the wrong time and in the way of some bad guys plans like in the 1st two films. They stick to that formula here. Who are our bad guys? You guessed it -- HACKERS..." " My only gripe is that for a die-hard script there is no yippee kay yee mofo (I know, it sounds corny) and there are no personal stakes for McClane in here like in the 1st two movies. This setup aint personal for McClane, it feels like he is just along for the ride. What

  • June 1, 2006, 1:31 a.m. CST

    You got it right, Moto...

    by Col. Klink

    Die Hard 2 is much better than DH3. I loved how DH2 had the same vibe as the original. But DH3? I remember sitting in the theater thinking, "THIS is a Die Hard movie? WTF?!" It wasn't a 'rollercoaster', it was a car wreck.

  • June 1, 2006, 2:49 a.m. CST

    the should make Die Hard 12: Die Hungry..Scnell schnell

    by AshesOfDonnie

    best Ben Stiller skit ever!!!!

  • June 1, 2006, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Internet terrorists? You mean media conglomerates?

    by scrumdiddly

  • June 1, 2006, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Since in Die Hard two it is said how Mclane hates...

    by BigTuna

    Technology, why is he involved in an internet threat? He didn't even know how a phone worked on a plane in DH2.

  • June 1, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    No, seriously, this guy should DIE

    by WolfmanNards

    The underworld movies have NO PLOT. NONE. Its a bunch of running around. Worthless action movies. Pieces of shit. Die Hard is the best action movie ever made. And its because JOHN MCTIERNAN DIREDTED IT. No other reason. I just hired an assassin to off this new director.

  • June 1, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    DON'T DO IT 4.0

    by expert24

    These guys still don't get it! DH1 is a classic, 2 is a hard actioner, 3 is a fun buddy movie with some great action set peices that's where it should stay. Boy these guys are going to screw up big time if they make this film. I think 3 was a pure indication that the steam is running out so they should leave well enough alone. What saved 3 was the action and Sam Jackson and Bruce Willis's chemistry, it certainly wasn't the weak plotline about a madbomber with robbery on his mind. So since 3 went out on a nice note that's how it should stay. There's really no story for a 4th movie because McClane is a normal guy who's stuck in crazy situations, nothing like Martin Rigg's multidimensional (in 1 and 2) hero from the lethal franchise, even Lethal 4 had a story but the production was so rushed the movie was a mess with paperthin plot, if they're smart they won't do the same to Die Hard.

  • June 1, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST

    die hard in a computer

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    underwor;d was so bad, it was all style over substance, which is always a bad idea, and the style was just stolen anyhow from matrix and stuff, it took a great concept of vampires vs wearwolves and blew it by giving them trench coats and guns and bad lighting, i think one of the howlings did it better anyways. god i hate this irector and i know he'll f-up dh4. i'm sad. and if its about computers its gonna be stupid. i quit. iread the artical the other day and it said one script was about a flood in louisinna, that sounded awesome, die hard in a flood with john mcclane saving the day for all america too see, that might be cool, but who knows. i still love all 3 die hards, thats all 3. LCG out!

  • June 1, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Say, homewrecker, are you referring to...

    by moviemaniac-7

    Jack Bauer himself? Kiefer Sutherland would be a complete bad-ass in this one, though I am opposed to a fourth Die Hard movie. Still, hire a talented director (the less said about Wiseman the better) and one helluva bad guy and you're halfway there.

  • June 1, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Now there are two reasons to hate this guy...

    by vinceklortho

    one because he gets to bone Kate Beckinsale and two because he will ruin a damn good action trilogy. You know you liked Die Hard with a Vengence and you also know Wiseman will someone fuck up this one.

  • June 1, 2006, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Die Hard 4ever: Is it out on DVD yet? No?

    by kabong

    Are they still going with McClane and his son trapped in a super high security computer blah blah blah? That would be to set up McClane junior for the series. Die Hard 5: Teen Die Hard. You just know it's coming -- and this time it's personal. Hollywood is crap.

  • June 2, 2006, 10:32 a.m. CST

    What the fuck is an internet terrorist

    by emeraldboy

    Internet terrorists really do exist. What they do is break or hack into your machine, gather up your files and demand you type in a password. the sting in the tail is that they demand money and if you dont pay, you can kiss goodbys to files. In a much more sinister turn they can deposit child pornography on your computer, demand money and if you dont give in to them, they will call the authorities and say you have kiddie porn on your machine. they simply disappear and your fucked. They are a huge menace because they cannot be traced. They are very real.

  • June 10, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Move out of your mommy's house and get a life

    by its all real!

    Underworld Evolution KICKED ASS! And for you haters - It's a f**king vampire flick - not a documentary! It can follow its' own rules. My advice: stop masturbating and get a girlfriend, stop spellchecking responses to prove your intelect while missing the meat of the post - and most inportant, move out of your mommy's house a get a life! As for Harry, remember that he's the guy that gave the "Godzilla" remake a good review.