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Holy Symbiote! Topher's Eddie Brock and Spidey's Black Suit make an appearance on the streets of NY!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. While I was packing for my two-month long excursion to New Zealand, my seaman sense started tingling. We've been hit with an inordinate amount of fake pictures when it comes to SPIDER-MAN 3, but when I saw these pics in the mailbox (courtesy of "Saint of Sand") they immediately matched with the word I've been getting about what's been shooting on the New York City streets.

Word was that Tobey Maguire was dressed all in black and stepping all Tony Manero/SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER-ish down the street. Here are the pics I was sent that feature the first look at Topher Grace as Eddie Brock (clearly Eddie Brock and you'll see why in a second) and Tobey revealing a little black-suit for the whistling, cat-calling fanboys out there.













So, does this mean the symbiote doesn't form Peter's clothes? Is it only ever a suit? Or is he just wearing the equivalent of the one in the books that the Black Cat made for him? What do you folks think of Topher? I really like him as an actor. Not happy with him as Venom. He's going to have to go a long, long way to turn me around, but if any director can spin me it'd be Sam Raimi. They got Molina dead on right as Doc Ock, Willem Dafoe dean on right as Green Goblin and Thomas Hayden Church dead on right as Sandman (so it seems). This is the only villain casting I'm not convinced of. Thoughts?

UPDATED WITH MORE PICS, including Gwen and Cromwell as Capt. Stacy!!!

This came with the bigger pics below:

Aint it cool team -

I'm sure you've already been flooded with some pics from the shooting of Spiderman 3 this weekend in NYC. No matter - I Iive just around the corner from 55th & 6th Ave where most of the action is taking place ~ and I've been reading this site for at least 5 years - so it's time to give back :)

The shots speak for themselves - it was hard to get a good angle w/ most of the crew & equipment trucks blocking the plaza - but did get clean shots of Spiderman in custom, Topher, Cromwell & B. Howard. Basic scene context is it looks like there's a massive battle on a top floor & which ends in debris on the plaza. Gwen is running to her dad & spidey does some pretty cool wire work after talking to pre-venom Brock. They've got some pretty intense wires running between the skyscrapers on the block & a ton of extras that police are protecting on the street....























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  • May 28, 2006, 3:58 p.m. CST

    too soon?

    by flamingrunt

  • May 28, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    too emo?

    by Subliminal

    tobey looks way to emo to be playing a darker spider-man. topher doesn't bother me at all for some reason. i guess they are going for the antispidey.

  • May 28, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    Don't agree with Venom...

    by gopher

    ...but the Sony suits probably insisted. Shit on that.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Does He Spend All The Film Listening To Nivana And

    by flamingrunt

    Wanking to pictures of shirley manson? Heres hoping

  • May 28, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    My Inner Fan Boy

    by dancinggopher01

    Just threw up when I saw the black suit underneath the clothes...please be the Black Cat costume.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:03 p.m. CST

    On That Note..

    by dancinggopher01

    Topher doesnt look half bad imo.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:09 p.m. CST

    spidey casting

    by drewchoice

    Casting is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you're going to get. Some people look the part. Michael Jai White is a great Al Simmons, but can't act ergo his Spawn sucked. Robin Williams made an excellent Popeye. Excuse the obscure casting but it is a difficult process. I was in college in a play when I learned of Maguire's Peter/Spiderman. I balked at the choice. Part jealousy, I have always wanted to be Spiderman but I am no box office guarantee. Hell, at this point I'd settle for some 10 and under roles. Anyway, Maguire captured the essence of Spiderman. The wit, the vulnerability, the dogged determination. I'm no Topher Grace fan but he's got the sarcasm to play Venom. Now if he can pull off being near psychotic and the bit of self-loathing and jealousy of Brock, I'll buy it. Christian Bale would have been perfect, but maybe DC projects conflict w/ Marvel. I'm not sure.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:17 p.m. CST

    i cant wait for this movie and i even like topher grace

    by mrgreentheplant

  • May 28, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    as i was saying..

    by mrgreentheplant

    ...but are they really putting three villians in this movie? it hasnt worked yet; i have no reason not to have confidence in raimi but so far this series has exactly mirrored the x-men series in my mind in terms of quality. i'm hoping this one will break the cycle and not be like X-3, which i liked but didnt wow me.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST

    First pic of Topher makes him look like a McD employee

    by masheen81

  • May 28, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST

    hoo... bad dye job.

    by HypeEndsHere

    but then considering Dunst, it fits into the continuity of the Spidey film universe.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST

    thats why they cast him

    by calami-shami

    because he is unassuming. Im a bit dissapointed its just the spidey suit painted black. Wah.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 2 wasn't that good

    by Rupee88

    The first Spider-Man is one of the best superhero movies done thus far..2 was a few steps down...so I doubt 3 will be anything special. Venom is a lame 90s villian..shoulda kept it strictly old school.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I don't think that's just a suit

    by Chadillac69

    Look at Tobey in that picture. Maybe it's early, maybe it's the lighting, maybe he had a bad bagel. To me it looks like someone wrestling with a symbiote that is trying to bond with him- he looks sick. I say it's a symbiote suit. Now how they get that suit on him is anyone's guess; I'm thinking they won't do a flashback to battleworld.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:34 p.m. CST

    obvious fakes

    by Vern

    The particular make of telephoto lens in the second picture was not even manufactured until a week after these photos were allegedly taken. And the white purse that the woman is holding the background of the first photo is OBVIOUSLY photoshopped. this sight SUCKS ANIMAL PARTS come on man ANYBODY could photoshop that shit, etc.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Question

    by shutterghost

    Can someone fill me in on something? I read X-Men and Punisher as a kid but never Spiderman. Why does that picture with Grace and a camera mean that he's Eddie Brock and what is the story behind Brock and the Venom suit? I thought i heard someone tell me that Brock was an astronaut and got an alien suit from outer space. Can someone clear this up for me?

  • May 28, 2006, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Can. Barely. Contain. Excitement.

    by AmirReza

    Hooboy. Looks set to be THE film of 2007. By the way, is that Bill Pope on the right of Tobey? Loved his work in Team America :>.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Isn't it possible that . . .

    by bebop_chick

    . . . Toby was just getting into character, and the suit just happened to be on underneath what he was wearing on the set? It doesn't look like they're necessarily filming at that exact moment . . . and even if they are, it also could just be a mid-costume-morph look that will be altered with CGI . . . or is that too far fetched?

  • May 28, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Not worried about Topher at all...

    by DanielKurland

    I think he is a great actor, and I can picture him doing this really shrill, manic, insane venom that looks great in my head.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Just wondering though...

    by AmirReza

    Why does Venom seem so popular? I mean, Todd McFarlane did some great pencils of the character, but he just seems to be a by-product of the "TO THE MAX!" attitude of the late '80s/early '90s. If they play on his twisted vigilante side for future sequels (supposing he isn't killed off), that could be interesting.

  • May 28, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Still could be Ned Leeds instead of Brock...

    by Big Bad Clone

    who am I kidding. I can't believe how badly that dye job looks given this monster's budget. I could have waited longer for Venom

  • May 28, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Looks like their doing a different take on Brock/Venom

    by rev_skarekroe

    Fine by me. I like the idea of Brock as a dark mirror of Parker, rather than a musclebound lug. Also, even if the suit doesn't turn into his clothes, there's no reason to think it's not a symbiote - maybe it's stuck to him.

  • May 28, 2006, 5 p.m. CST

    re: shutterghost

    by Gwai Lo

    the whole symbiote from an astronaut origin of venom was only from the 90's cartoon. it was effective shorthand for the much more lengthy and esoteric origin from the comics, the secret wars. the secret wars was basically a huge saga that involved all the main marvel characters in some big outerspace war, and spidey found a living suit that he thought was pretty nifty so he brought it back to earth. but then the suit started fucking his shit up so he scared it off with some church bells and it found eddie brock. eddie brock is a rival photographer that hates peter parker because hes so damn good and buddy buddy with spidey. i've been told that topher grace resembles the ultimate version of eddie brock, because the eddie brock im used to looks like howie long. topher grace is a better choice for spiderman/peter parker than tobey maguire is IMO. for venom these days i would cast uhhhhh cole hauser. maybe brian thompson. anyway i wouldn't even mind if they used the astronaut origin like from the comics, but knowing the movies so far they will update it a bit more and make it organic. raimi doesn't like the idea of an alien so i'm sure they'll put an interesting spin on it. i don't mind the modified suit being black, as the symbiote can mimic anything including clothing and so its not illogical that it would replicate his existing suit. i assume it will adopt a different personality with eddie brock, perhaps then becoming the liquid suit we identify with. also they might add those types of effects in post, layering other stuff on the suit that's been paparazzi'd. who knows. it's raimi, so like the first 2 i expect a fully realized vision of spiderman that more or less captures the characters. he knows what he's doing, but i also expecting a few flaws, like the two previous films.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    typo

    by Gwai Lo

    *I don't mind the modified suit being flat black

  • May 28, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST

    THESE ARE FAKE!

    by Gilkuliehe

    Ah Vern beat me to it. Damn you, Vern. Always one step ahead...

  • May 28, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    "Don't you know who I am? I'm the SYMBIOTE, BITCH!"

    by masheen81

    Christ. Who wouldve thought X3 would've dropped to self-parody. Anyway. Bring on SPIDER-MAN 3.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Topher's the kind of guy where you should want to...

    by I Dunno

    ...kick his ass but he's too likable. If he can actually pull off a bad guy, I think he has a big career ahead of him.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Venom kills Sandman in the Comic

    by Vansmack13

    I am guessing we will not see Venom till the very end if at all probably setting up 4 and he will somehow have somthing to do with the end of Sandman. And don't be suprised if the symbiotes hold on Peter is different since Rami has proven he will stray from the Comic if he wants too. Three words "Organic Web shooters". No idea what they are going to do with Harry and the Goblin.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Argh! Harry will come to the rescue of course

    by Silver_Joo

    The X-Men 3 writers couldn't handle this instalment of Spidey, could they? Firstly, Raimi is showing how much of a fan he is by not shafting fans but actually giving us what we REALLY want, namely Gwen Stacy (okay, what I want but surely I'm not alone here?). I suspect she'll live and MJ will die in this instalment and it will be the fault of both Spiderman and Harry as The Goblin, who will wrestle with his conscience all film until deciding he has to help his friend because all told, that is what Peter would do for him. So with Spidey looking doomed against two handy villains, Harry will save the day but they will both pay the price as MJ is finally victim to the dangerous world Spiderman inhabits. I'm pretty sure that is how it will go down, with the talent writing this film and shooting it, they are going to give us multiple characters, big action but also keep in mind the themes established previously. I'm not the biggest fan of the first Spiderman, Spiderman 2 was getting there but I think Spiderman 3 will blow us all away. Excelsior indeed.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Re:Gwai Lo

    by shutterghost

    Thanks. I know Dylan Baker plays the man who becomes Lizard, but JJ jameson's son is an astronaut in the 2nd one. Does he become a villain and does it have to do with Venom? Are their any other characters in the first two books who later become villains other than those two? Thanks again.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:25 p.m. CST

    CGI "Enhancements"

    by CLMoose8

    Every single time a new superhero costume is revealed, the dissapointed masses always surmise about "CGI enhancements." I remember how, when RoboGoblin first reared his shiny head, everyone kept saying "Well, they'll probably CGI in a cloak. I bet they are going to use CGI and make a purple cape or cloak or something." It was the same for the Thing. "Don't worry, I'm sure they will use CGI to enhance his brow and make him look more like the comics." Now people are hoping for a CGI spice-up on the (incredibly bland and lazily designed) black spidey suit. Face it guys, unless the suit is covered with patches of bright green, what we see is what we're going to get in the final movie.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Shutterghost

    by Chadillac69

    JJJ's son in the comics is an astronaut and becomes (correct me if I'm wrong Oh Mightier Geeks Than I) Man Wolf. Personally give me a CRAZY action packed opening where Spidey is taking on both of them. Why wait 20 minutes for a super villian- give me a medium sized one at the start and wedge my fat ass in the seat.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Venom doesn't kill SAndman... he just takes a bite...

    by Kraken

    ... out of SAndman. It just makes it hard for Sandman to reform, but he doesn't die. Okay, nerd alarm over. I like how Topher looks as Eddie. I also like how it looks like the Symbiote is having a dark effect on Peter. He looks evil and it looks like the Symbiote is keeping him up nights. I just hope they do the classic church bell ending/begining of Eddie/Venom. It's just as important as the bridge set for the Green Goblin.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    re: Shutterghost.. ahh yes, man wolf

    by Gwai Lo

    In the comics, JJJ Jr. is indeed a villain, but an uber-lame one: manwolf. I would be surprised if they resorted to that in a movie, hopefully they just used him as MJ's boyfriend as an effort to use more characters. Silver Joo: I have been thinking the same thing about MJ dying, it would be interesting if they swapped Gwen and MJ in the continuity. Daring even, since in the comics it was daring to kill off Gwen Stacy. So who knows, all bets are off.

  • May 28, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST

    i'm not worried about topher

    by keyserSOZE

    it's clear that what sam raimi wants to do here is basically turn Venom into a sort of bizarro-Spidey...so if you have a bizarro-Spidey, you must have a bizarro-Parker. if that is the case, there is no one better than Topher Grace to be a bizarro-Tobey Maguire. looks about as much like him as one possibly could without actually BEING Tobey...so i think it'll work.

  • May 28, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Gwai Lo

    by Babyshamble

    Ok you must be Cole Hauser, because he's the only one who'd suggest his casting in a Spiderman movie.

  • May 28, 2006, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Apparently Bright Eyes is this film's Macy Gray...

    by Flim Springfield

    ...And for some reason he's wearing a black Spidey costume.

  • May 28, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    doesn't Gwen get killed by the symbiote...

    by eule

    ...in Ultimate Spiderman? And if that really is the ultimate version of Venom, do they plan to introduce us to Peter's parents? after all the symbiote was their creation...

  • May 28, 2006, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Re: Eule

    by AmirReza

    In the Ultimate-verse, it's symbiote Carnage (a mindless entity that is the spawn of Venom and I think Parker's blood, with Curt Connors somehow involved) drains Gwen of her lifeforce, leaving her looking not unlike zombie Phoenix in X3.

  • May 28, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    'Kay, reading books rather than comics, I know little..

    by JackPumpkinhead

    ...of this Eddie Brock, but I searched for the name and found pictures of a very big and very muscular man... not a skinny dwarf titboy that the first two photos have. Harumph.

  • May 28, 2006, 6:37 p.m. CST

    for the 1,000th time

    by smackfu

    The black suit picture is fake. 3 photos down his 'black' suit has become red again. Why is it that every single person who gets their hands on set pics photoshops the fucking costume from red to black?

  • May 28, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST

    grow a brain. both suits will be seen in this film.

    by HypeEndsHere

    what percentage of each remains to be seen.

  • May 28, 2006, 7:25 p.m. CST

    I'm not so sure it's photoshopped

    by brainedchild

    http://www.savingfaceforum.com/index.php?showtopic=21218

  • May 28, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    the principal from the breakfast club died...

    by jig98

    i was never really a fan of that movie, but the "angry principal from cult movies" genre is always amusing.

  • May 28, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST

    The suit and Topher

    by Kevin Bosch

    I can see the Venom symbo-whatever attaching itself to the spidey suit. Peter wears it and realizes that it makes him more powerful. After a while, it starts trying to attach itself to Peter and control him, and thats when he gets rid of it. It oozes off the suit, but when it attaches itself to Brock, it recreates the suit. Topher plays Brock probably because the inital Venom is supposed to look like Spider-Man, so they found somebody with the same body type. I'm sure as it progresses, the Venom suit will start to change and become more slimy and monsterous.

  • May 28, 2006, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Henry Rollins as Eddie Brock

    by The Continental

    It's not too late!

  • May 28, 2006, 8:12 p.m. CST

    how long has principal phot. been going on??

    by seekshelter

    this is still a year from being released. did the others take this long? i cant remember

  • May 28, 2006, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Why does Gwen look like she's going to a sock hop?

    by Ribbons

    Zing! Take that, costume designers!

  • May 28, 2006, 8:40 p.m. CST

    principal shooting...

    by movieman742

    it has been going on for about a month now give or take a little bit, i think. A movie on this scale will probably take about 4-6 months to shoot. The shooting starts early becuase there is a shitload of post production on it. All the CGI and shit like that.

  • May 28, 2006, 9 p.m. CST

    The superhero movie that holds up best

    by zekmoe

    to repeat viewings is...The Hulk! After owning and watching every super here related morsel, I can truly state that The Hulk is the best movie of its genre. Spend a weekend rewatching all of the big movies that came out over the last years. Daredevil, X1 and 2, Superman 1,2 3, (skip 4), FF, Spiderman 1 and 2... and the Hulk. Watch it on a decent system with real sound. And it's the best movie overall. The action it has is spectacular, and really lets you feel the character. I love that alot of these movies are being made. I can't wait for Superman Returns, Ghost Rider and Iron Man. But I'll be shocked if any beat the Hulk.

  • May 28, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Looks like Tobey is being directed by...

    by chickychow

    David Cronenberg in that one shot... and btw, DAVID CRONENBERG for Spidey 4!!

  • May 28, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Venom and the suit origin

    by Fernwick_

    Ok, the 90's cartoon is NOT the origin of Venom or the symbiot. Its Secret Wars Issue #8. It is manufactured by an alien machine. I wont go into details but the cartoon in the 90's took liberty since they cant go into Secret Wars without SHOWING the Secret Wars. Now thats an idea, how about the make THAT a cartoon, and all canon will be in line again? Cuz it WONT happen. Sucks but oh well, life goes on. Hamferno www.theidiottestament.com

  • May 28, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Venom and the suit origin

    by Fernwick_

    Ok, the 90's cartoon is NOT the origin of Venom or the symbiot. Its Secret Wars Issue #8. It is manufactured by an alien machine. I wont go into details but the cartoon in the 90's took liberty since they cant go into Secret Wars without SHOWING the Secret Wars. Now thats an idea, how about the make THAT a cartoon, and all canon will be in line again? Cuz it WONT happen. Sucks but oh well, life goes on. Hamferno www.theidiottestament.com

  • May 28, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST

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  • May 28, 2006, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Ugh.

    by KokopelliJoe

    Cut his hair! What's with all the bangs I'm seeing now? He needs to be wearing black eye makeup on his day job or something. Talking about how the government is terrible while sulking and listening to Green Day on his Ipod. Just another attempt to sell tickets by relating to what the "kids" these days are into.

  • May 28, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Emo bastard

    by AlwaysThere

    They finally went and made him the all-out emo character that he's been in the firs two movie.

  • May 28, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    "Semen Sense" ... tee hee

    by docfalken

    I bet Sony is just begging for you guys to hate this one after Fox's gigantic X3 opening.

  • May 28, 2006, 10:43 p.m. CST

    i like topher as eddie and venom

    by isildur29

    it works

  • May 28, 2006, 11:02 p.m. CST

    He isn't emo, you assholes

    by Novaman5000

    He's obviously reacting to the black suit (provided the picture is real). I'd imagine getting taken over by the symbiote doesn't leave you feeling too well.

  • May 28, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    This movie has been shooting since JANUARY...

    by Be like water

    ...for those who were asking. Actually, they shot a few action/effects scenes with Haden Church/as Sandman back in November 2005!! They started early on this bitch because THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT and not fuck up royally like FOX continues to do with its "properties." Spider-Man 3 will rule 2007, and perhaps Spider-Man 4 will rule 2008...

  • May 28, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    re: "Emo bastard"

    by Ribbons

    "They finally went and made him the all-out emo character that he's been in the [first] two [movies]." So, wait... they finally made him into the character that he's been? But if he's been that character, then... I... but... shrimp cocktail... [head explodes].

  • May 28, 2006, 11:28 p.m. CST

    These pictures are SO fake.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Topher looks just like he did when he was shooting "Win a date with Tad Hamilton". FAKE!!!!!!!!

  • May 28, 2006, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Use the 90s Cartoon Venom origin.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Best interpretation of the Venom origin you could possibly get. Fuck the overly complicated Secret Wars and fuck the Ultimate Brock and Parker's dads worked together bullshit.

  • May 28, 2006, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Dye Job

    by DANTE CUBIT

    Topher's dye job is fine, and he'll do a good job with the Brock character.

  • May 28, 2006, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Use USM! He already looks like USM Eddie Brock anyways

    by Tall_Boy

    Okay, maybe not all the way origin from USM (though, I do happen to like it), but terristrial in origin as opposed to extraterristrial.

  • May 29, 2006, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Grace sold me with those pictures

    by Freakemovie

    Not hugely familiar with the comics so my opinion means nothing to most of you folks, but those pictures of him got me excited. I was afraid he'd be too goofy a la That '70s Show and every other role he's had, but he's looking good.

  • May 29, 2006, 12:47 a.m. CST

    love Topher as Brock. Will be a more interesting than

    by George Newman

    muscle head brock. If grace goes Venom, it'll be more doppleganger-ish, mischief and mistaken identity stuff, which will be nice for conflict. I am imagining good things.

  • May 29, 2006, 12:48 a.m. CST

    DID BRYCE CHOP HER HAIR SINCE THE LETTERMAN APPEARANCE?

    by George Newman

    AAAGGHHHHHH!!!

  • May 29, 2006, 1:07 a.m. CST

    jesus Christ what will the apologists justify next?!

    by IndustryKiller

    SO do these characters have to be ANYTHING like the comic book counterparts?? Anything at all. Now they have cast Venom as the complete antithesis of what he is in the comics and you people are eating it like candy. WHy bother even making movies that have the characters names if they are just going to throw everything (literally everything this time) out the window. I mean Hugh Jackman in execution is a shadow of his comics counterpart but at least they made him look like the character. Why even make Grace's hair blonde?? What difference does it make if NOTHING else is right? Why not just go the whole nine yards and let him keep the brown hair? And to those of you saying it's better than "muscle bound lug" Brock, go fuck yourselves. Venom may have been intimidating in appearance but he was cunning and clever in mentality. True he was completely bereserk insane but he knew exactly what buttons to push on Peter Parker mentally and physically. He is SUPPOSED to be the opposite of Peter Parker, that's the whole fucking point. He's stoic and hateful while Peter is self deprecating and kind. And before you all jump on me for being some comic book zealot I was fully expecting them to change Venoms origin as I agree it would be not only impossible but absolutely ridiculous onscreen as is. Although it is essential to the character that the suit be a living creature and Peter wear it before Brock, otherwise don't even bother doing Venom. But for Christ sake get the basic foundations of hte character itself right. Come to think of it whya re they even doing Venom? If they dislike the character enough to change everything whats the fucking point?

  • May 29, 2006, 1:23 a.m. CST

    By Crikey, you are some stupid sunsabitches.

    by Negator76

    This is from NYC filming (going on right now, which I can verify. I live in the city.) The shots are REAL. Tobey was on set with his normal swept-back hairdo and all-american duds. Until it was time to shoot as 'Black Suit Tobey'. Which was when they gave him the Crispin Glover, hung-over look. And how can people doubt the black suit? SONY'S FEATURED IT IN IT'S PROMOTIONAL ONE-SHEET FOR MONTHS! I'm not a Venom fan, and didn't want him in a Spidey Movie. In fact, I was hoping for Church as Scorpion, not Sandman. But I have complete faith in Raimi and Alvin Sargent. Raimi loves the character, and knows his camerawork and pacing. And Sargent is a terrific screenwriter. Oscar-winning, in fact. If they have Venom and Sandy, they've got a good reason. Topher as the anti-Spidey makes loads more sense than McFarlane's goofy muscleman. I can't wait for this film... But I'm sad that I have to wait a year until a competent filmmaking team finally cures me of the bad taste X3 left in my fanboy mouth. And Cromwell as Captain Stacy is just one more instance of brilliant casting in this franchise.

  • May 29, 2006, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Tobey looks SICK

    by AdrianVeidt

    And I mean, like sickly sick. Like he's really pissed off. Yeah, emo was the correct word earlier. Emotionally unstable and just messed up enough to be swayed by the black suit. And Topher's hair makes him look like a pretentious DICK. This is SO going to work. X-Men 3 sucked balls.

  • May 29, 2006, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Apologists

    by Playhouse

    I know it seems en vogue to bash it right now, but seriously shut the fuck up with the word 'apologist'. You sound like whiny fucks who get that lump in their throat when they've said something cooler than they thought could come out of their mouths with all the fucking pretension that the word reeks of.

  • May 29, 2006, 2:30 a.m. CST

    I think apologist fits here.

    by IndustryKiller

    Apologist. People who apologise for massive shortcomings of the filmmakers by coming up with one justification after the other or making up ludicrous things to fill holes the filmmaker didn't bother to. Anyone who thinks Topher looks (since looks is all we have to go by so far) good as Brock is an apologist. I'm sorry if that hurts your delicate sensibilities but I'm not one for political correctness when the truth is obvious. They are justifying a change in a character so complete he doesn't even resemble the original intention. Youa ren't necessarily an apologist if you just don't like the character, like Negator76 who seems like a pretty well informed guy, although I think he has the wrong idea of the Venom and I would ask him as a fellow comics fan to allow another fan to see a beloved character come to life nicely on screen even if it isn't one he's particularly fond of. Venom got a bad name in the mid 90's after he became the "lethal enforcer" and writer after writer raped the character into oblivion, and from his terrible Brooklyn accented cartoon incarnation, which is where this "dumb thug" talk came from. But originally Venom was a very cool villain who made an excellent counter to Spidey, especially in the Mcfarlane and Eric Larsen runs. No one faulted the Constantine people who cried havok when Keanu was cast and this is worse, I'm beyond within my rights to gripe. Especially when people who have no familiarity with the comics hail this as excellent when they don't know what they are talking about. That's the worst part of it, the proverbial salt ont he wound. These people are absurdly easily amused and if you made films for the fans first the non-fans would come running anyway.

  • May 29, 2006, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Having Gwen Stacey in this movie is completely idiotic

    by My Ass Smells

    After all the shit Peter Parker goes through in Part 1 to get her attention and then finally getting her love at the end of Part 2. It's just fucked up if they just completely ruin their trilogy romance arc by adding that blonde bimbo into the picture.

  • May 29, 2006, 2:46 a.m. CST

    I admit some of this looks good though

    by IndustryKiller

    if that is in fact Peter reacting negatively to the black suit that is pretty fuckin sweet. If it doesn't form his clothes that's ok as that could play a little hokey on screen, it better remain a symbiote though. Also I'm not sure what they are doing with Gwen Stacy but she looks good and Howard is proving herself a very formidable actress. The initial idea of killing off Mary Jane and doing a role reversal with her and Gwen makes me cringe but given how awful and wrong the severely overrated Kirsten Dunst is it might be what is best for the franchise. Just how badly they fuck up Venom will determine the merits of this film though. What they should really do is let this whole movie go with just the Sandman, and set it up so Brock takes a fall with Sandman replacing the Sin Eater from the comics storyline and end it with Brock about to kill himself and getting the symbiote in the church. if they did that it might be enough to make me forget about the casting of Grace.

  • May 29, 2006, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Paul Gleason is dead

    by los_urizen

    So long to Principal Vernon. He was a douchebag, but he was a well-acted douchebag.

  • May 29, 2006, 3:39 a.m. CST

    That sucks..

    by Negator76

    ... about Paul Gleason. I had an eighties childhood, and I'll remember that guy forever. 'Mess with the bull, you get the horns' (flip 'satan' fingers palm front to palm back). He was awesome. IndustryKiller, I appreciate that you have a soft spot for Venom. But Topher obviously trained for the role(look at his neck in the spy photos), and he's still playing a NYC photog who gains powers through Pete's discarded suit. Seems pretty close to me. And no offense, but John Constantine is a much more nuanced, complex character than Eddie Brock. And there's no comparing casting KEANU in the place of a very british, jaded, intellectual character on the one hand, with casting a young, snarky, recently-buffed actor in the role of a middle aged, snarky, buff character. I'm rusty on my Venom, but Eddie's chief motivation is jealousy, right? Although age certainly enhances jealousy, I don't think it's a deal-breaker to cast Eddie as closer to Pete's own age. In fact, showing Eddie as the Spider-Man that Pete ALMOST became has some serious advantages, story and character-wise. And Topher's got acting chops that he's shown in various film roles outside of Eric Foreman. I have a feeling you'll be plenty pleased when this comes out next summer.

  • May 29, 2006, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Once again...THERES A HIDDEN FACE IN THE TEASER IMAGE!

    by Shermdawg

    Mirror it, flip it upsidedown, there are teeth between the wrists and eyes at Spidey's fingertips. Hey, I was the first and only one on here for months preaching the gospel of a Sentinel in the Danger Room, and I got that right. I'm tellin' y'all there's something there.

  • May 29, 2006, 4:54 a.m. CST

    MacFarlane era Venom was a joke

    by Lone Fox

    The Venom saga officially stopped not sucking once he became WWF size. Only decent handling of the character in recent years (appearance-wise, at any rate) has been by Romita Jr. In fact it's been pretty stupid since the bell tower. In the movie, the symbiote morphing PP's clothes (haha... 'pee pee') would be an unwelcome excuse for more CG FX. And I saw Grace in some film the other night, I think he's a fine choice for (movie version) Brock.

  • May 29, 2006, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Spidey 2

    by Jellylover

    Does anyone remember the scene when John Jameson jumps to the boat to meet MJ after Spidey lets her down from his huge web? If you look closely you can tell that they used wires to help him jump that pretty long gap and land effortlessly. You can also see that he is wearing ALL BLACK! OK. There might have been no need for the caps but if you do go along with the 90's cartoon or the comics it could have meant either Venom or Man-Wolf. Or I could just be looking to far into things.

  • May 29, 2006, 5:16 a.m. CST

    I think Maquire looks like a cock

    by Doc_Strange

    Seriously, every time I see the guy on TV, he does his best to cover himself up. He obviously doesn't want people to see him yet he gets a huge payday whenever a (lame) Spiderman movie comes out. Why continue to put yourself in high profile roles when you don't want people to see you? Whatta cock.

  • May 29, 2006, 5:19 a.m. CST

    whoever posts after me is.....

    by tHEmOOG

    gey and listens to emo music.

  • May 29, 2006, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Gwen Stacy Shmacy

    by Sudynim

    My Ass Smells is totally right. After all that trouble it just seems hokey, awkward to add in another love interest into part 3. What happened to that russian/czech girl that lived in Parker's appointment? She made him a sandwhich in part 2. Is there an interest there? eh? eh? c'mon.

  • May 29, 2006, 7:11 a.m. CST

    TheContinental, I AGREE!

    by Anna Valerious

    Who cares about Eddie being the anti-Peter?! EDDIE IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE HE COULD BENCH PRESS PETER AND RIP HIS HEAD OFF IF HE LOOKED AT HIM FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET ROLLINS, DAMMIT!

  • May 29, 2006, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Bring it on!!!

    by brycemonkey

    Yeah, I always thought Toby was way too much of a geek (in real life and on screen) to be Spidey but hey, parts 1 & 2 are amongst the best superhero movies ever made (even with the story/cannon tweaking)so I'll let them run with it and see what they produce.

  • May 29, 2006, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Gwen and Tobey

    by Vynson

    Too much of a geek, brycemonkey? Peter Parker was always a geek. That's sort of his defining characteristic. And, Sudynim, tossing Gwen into the mix COMPLICATES things for Peter. That's the point. Stories are about complications. Problems. Conflicts. As for Tobey, Doc_Strange, did it ever occur to you that the man enjoys acting, but simply doesn't think that the public has a right to intrude on every second of his life because he happens to pursue that career?

  • May 29, 2006, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Topher looks wrong becaues Venom will be different here

    by performingmonkey

    I doubt Raimi will be doing a straight outta the comics Venom just to give the fanboys masturbatory material. How can you NOT trust Raimi to deliver? He's not going to drop the ball here. Many people said he would never do Venom because Venom would suck, but I'm guessing the way Raimi will handle him will make him NOT suck.

  • May 29, 2006, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Continuity and SECRET WARS....

    by Monkey_King

    Raimi or screenwriter Alvin must have raped this series. Brock and Venom should've been big. Real Big! A SECRET WARS film would've set this all up, but the Sony peeps(God Damn them all to Hell) wanted Venom. Travesty! Abomination!, etc...This has Bendis' fingerprints all over it. That suck-ass!

  • May 29, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Spideygeek...

    by brycemonkey

    yeah Vynson, I accept Peter isn't supposed to be a jock. But saying that he's more of an everyboy(man). I thought the movies took too much time depicting him as a total loser, geek.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:04 a.m. CST

    monkey_king

    by satansteve

    i REALLY hope you're joking.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Re: Performingmonkey

    by AmirReza

    Yeah, I wasn't sure about Doc Ock, but Raimi worked his magic again in Spidey 2.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Spideygeek

    by Vynson

    I suppose Peter has become a bit more "everyman" in recent years as writers have tried to saddle him with more maturity and psychological stability, but if you'll read the original Lee/Ditko run, you'll see that Pete is a total geek. He's not the "average kid." He's the skinny little nerd that lost his milk money and got bullied and couldn't get the girl and had more problems than he could handle. I don't have a clue what he's up to lately. I read Spidey since the early 70s (but collected the back issue stories) and dropped him when McFarlane took over and screwed it all up. About the time Marvel decided they had to release nine books of every major character so that it became impossible for their writers to keep the storylines straight, let alone the poor readers. We have finally reached a point where comic book movies are actually better than the current comics.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Yeah Vynson...

    by brycemonkey

    I can agree with you there. The Spiderman story threads are pretty convoluted. As such people can take their pick of which Spidey they think of as the 'real' Spiderman. Anyway, hope this movie keeps/raises the standard set by the previous two. Peace.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:57 a.m. CST

    MR. BEAKS DIES AT AGE 67

    by Darth Pestilence

    READ ABOUT IT HERE. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&pop=1&ping=1&indicate=1

  • May 29, 2006, 11 a.m. CST

    re Venom

    by DocPazuzu

    Supervillains must be a generational thing -- especially when it comes to characters like Venom. I'm in my late 30s and had my most intense comic-reading period during the 1970s and early 1980s, and I just don't get Venom's appeal. At all. Sure, there were plenty of lame Spidey villains in the 70s, like White Dragon, Rocket Racer and Stegron, but to me Venom is just as lame. Thank God Sandman will be there to bring some class to the villainy.

  • May 29, 2006, 11:08 a.m. CST

    re: Venom

    by brycemonkey

    I agree with you there Doc. I always think 'Green Goblin" when it comes to Spiderman villains. I think those who got into it in the 90's think 'Venom'. It's all good though, bring on the ass-kicking! Peace.

  • May 29, 2006, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Someone enlighten me about all the Venom hate

    by IndustryKiller

    I really grew up loving the haracter but then again when I was a kid Venom was at his peak and I was smack in the target audience the character was aiming at. I admit it could be my sentimental memories of the character here but Venom is a damn good spidey villain. I mean sure his looks are blatantly made to elicit a "Whoa cool!" reaction but who cares? Comic books characters are SUPPOSED to do that. He's got a damn good origin that gives him ample reason to hate the protagonist, cool powers that make him a great foil, and once again he looks damn freaky. For some of the older readers maybe he represents an era in which comics started doing things for the wrong reasons and I can understand the bitterness, but i would hazard to argue that things took a turn for the worst closer to 94, especially Spider man with the clone saga. I can't remember what creative team was responsible for that but they should be shot.

  • May 29, 2006, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Yo Quint...

    by mmvenom420

    Dont be so quick to doubt the choice of Topher Grace as Eddie Brock. He's more than talented enough to pull it off, especially if they go with the Ultimate Spider Man version (which would totally suck). Raimi's opinion of Venom is well-documented, but I honestly believe he wouldn't put the character in the movie just for the sake of fandom. I think he studied Venom's background story and found some things about the character that he really liked, as well as some things he knew he could improve upon. I trust Sam Raimi more than any other director on the planet when it comes to these things, as all true Spidey fans should.

  • May 29, 2006, 11:19 a.m. CST

    You guys are ridiculous. Of course the black suit is..

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    real. I just happen to work for a studio that rhymes with pony. I've seen it up close. F*ckin morons. And FYI, there'll still debating over how Venom should look in the film. One design has Venom looking more like a black-colored Carnage, while the other has a more McFarlene Designed Venom.

  • May 29, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Paul Gleason is DEAD!!!

    by Drworm2002

    R.I.P

  • May 29, 2006, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Maybe Before Pronouncing Someone As Dead

    by flamingrunt

    Maybe look through the above posts? That way you can see if anyone else has already said it. Which they have, several times.

  • May 29, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    really?

    by Drworm2002

    I should look at every other fucking post? Sorry, I was just letting people know. I didn't know that someone else did. I just didn't feel like reading a fucking 100 posts. Why is it such a big deal that you have say anything? Wow, what a dick way to be.

  • May 29, 2006, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Brock/Venom

    by jsm1978

    I remember a Venom miniseries where some organization had captured Brock and stripped the suit from him to steal other offspring it had in it, and they mentioned that the cell to hold him wasn't powerful enough because Brock had "olympic level" strength. Should have been someone bigger. Ah well.

  • May 29, 2006, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Not Really A Dick Way

    by flamingrunt

    Just fed of sad attention seeking dipshits desperately wanting to be the first to tell everyone that someones died. This isnt about telling everyone hes dead, its about you wanting to be first to tell everyone. If it wasnt then you would have simply scrolled down the list of titles to see if anyone else had mentioned it. Which they have done like 6 times. I mean have you got any other scoops you want to tell us? Any news about that Titanic? I hear its unsinkable. And hows that World War 2 going? Got any news on that one? This isnt about pronouncing someone dead its about your ego. Wanting to be the first on the site to tell everyone someones died.

  • May 29, 2006, 1:46 p.m. CST

    re: Apologists

    by mattw

    Playhouse, I agree with the overuse/misuse of the word "Apologists". I also hate the word "Haters" and people who take the time to type out the word "Um..." before their post (to make it seem more sarcastic and important, I guess).

  • May 29, 2006, 2:51 p.m. CST

    jsm1978...

    by mmvenom420

    yeah that was Seperation Anxiety from Venom's own comic run. it was a video game too.

  • May 29, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    dead

    by shutterghost

    I learned of his death through the talkbacks. Whatever their motives, i appreciated the news. 67 is a young age to go and he will be missed. Thanks to Dr. Worm and everyone else for the heads up.

  • May 29, 2006, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Spidey 2 was WAY better than the first.

    by minderbinder

    The origin story was great, they really nailed Peter Parker, but most of the actual spiderman stuff was VERY weak. Lousy FX, too much obvious animation even in shots where they could have used a guy in a suit. The second continued the Peter Parker stuff very well and fixed the actual Spidey scenes, way better action and FX, and much more exciting.

  • May 29, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST

    so there is red AND black spidey in those pics...

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    hmmm?

  • May 29, 2006, 3:52 p.m. CST

    they DID do secret wars in the cartoon!

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    it was the finale of the series!

  • May 29, 2006, 3:59 p.m. CST

    DARTH PESTILENCE- What is that a link to?

    by George Newman

    whose MySpace page is that?

  • May 29, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Anyone else think they're shooting 3 & 4 back to back?

    by LilOgre

    And just not telling anyone? Would be great if they kept it a secret till the film's release then end on a cliffhanger then blackout then Spidey 4 coming November 2007 or July 2008?

  • May 29, 2006, 4:26 p.m. CST

    When is the teaser surfacing?

    by LilOgre

    Seriously its 11 months till the release? Any bets on SUPERMAN RETURNS?

  • May 29, 2006, 4:35 p.m. CST

    LilOgre

    by The_Comedian

    The teaser has been confirmed by Sony to be coming out in August with the Will Ferrel Movie <i>Talladega Nights: The Legend of Ricky Bobby</i>

  • May 29, 2006, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Thanks man!

    by LilOgre

  • May 29, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Spidey&#39;s suit is red and BLACK, not BLUE

    by George Newman

    Like the old classic Spider-man. Detailed photos here: http://www.lighthousenews.us/

  • May 29, 2006, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Dafoe was dead on right as Goblin?

    by beefywhore

    He was in a Power-Ranger uniform.

  • May 29, 2006, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Underoos

    by BannedOnTheRun

    The black symbiote underwear that&#39;s fun to wear!

  • May 29, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    re: Willem Dafoe

    by eule

    I think he did a good job as the Goblin,perfectly portraying Osborn&#39;s schizophrenic character. And after all he&#39;s not the one to blame for that ridiculous costume. I&#39;m pretty sure they&#39;ll get it right with Franco&#39;s Goblin.

  • May 29, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Bryce is a fat ass.

    by sevadro

    Check out the pics on Latino Review. She&#39;s got mad rolls kid! Spidey&#39;s a chubby chaser.

  • May 29, 2006, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3 Plot in a Nutshell

    by andenu

    "Third film in the highly successful "Spider-Man" series sees several new villains and a new woman enter Peter Parker&#39;s life. With his secret now revealed to both Mary Jane and Harry, Peter must face the consequences of his actions and his new life together with Mary Jane as they finally form a relationship. Yet their newfound open display of love has yielded some unfortunate results, not the least of which is Peter&#39;s upset boss determined to make his life hell for causing his son emotional distress. Not helping is a young investigative reporter named Eddie Brock who Jameson has hired to find out why Mary Jane dumped his son for Peter - what&#39;s Parker&#39;s secrets? At the same time an escaped prisoner hiding out on a remote beach is caught in a dreadful accident and finds himself turned into a shape-shifting sand creature. Peter&#39;s investigations into the past of this &#39;Sandman&#39; brings him in contact with two very different things that will inevitably alter his life. The first a young woman named Gwen Stacy, daughter of the city&#39;s new police chief who is developing a soft spot for Peter. The other, a black substance from an accident scene, which &#39;merges&#39; with Peter&#39;s costume and gives him new found abilities. Things come to a head however when Harry Osborn, determined to take revenge against Peter for his father&#39;s death and now equipped with what he needs to pull it off, teams with The Sandman in a new variation of his father&#39;s Green Goblin guise and causes mayhem. In the ensuing chaos lives are lost, including people very close to Peter, whilst the black substance covering his suit separates from him and merges with a distraught Brock to form something else entirely - a creature unlike anything he&#39;s ever faced. A &#39;Venom&#39; that he may not be able to stop." ... sounds complicated!

  • May 29, 2006, 7:21 p.m. CST

    If that post above mine is Spider-man 3&#39;s plot...

    by Kampbell-Kid

    ..it sounds like Mortal Kombat: Anniliation. Too much being shoved into one film. It&#39;s what seemed to kill the earlier Batman films as well as poor scripting. Too many characters, means little character development and a film paced so fast that it ends up like X3 and Goblet of Fire were. Entertaining, but also mind numbingly bastardized for commerical sale.

  • May 29, 2006, 7:52 p.m. CST

    What the hell happened to Bryce?

    by Wolfman57

    Did they make her gain weight for the role? She looked great as a blonde when she appeared on Leno, but damn, she seems to have put on some pounds. Such a shame, because she was cute. And Topher looks a lot different. He looks like someone, but I can&#39;t seem to put my finger on it...

  • May 29, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    But I thought James Cameron

    by Mr. Profit

    Wanted to make the original Spiderman but make the storyline revolve around the death of Gwen Stacy? Is this true? And then Sony got all pissed and they fought. It seems stupid now to bring her in all late in the game. Because I&#39;m sure a James Cameron Spiderman movie would have been waaaay better than Raimi&#39;s movie that totally bit off of Burton&#39;s original Batman. For one I&#39;m sure he wouldn&#39;t have casted Tobey Maguire who is the male equivalent to Mary Lynn Rajksub from 24. They always look constipated.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Vynson

    by Doc_Strange

    Dude, seriously, The Spiderman films don&#39;t even come close to the pinnacle of dramatic acting. If Toby likes to act, maybe he should try Shakespeare or a movie that actually requires some actual emoting.

  • May 29, 2006, 10:18 p.m. CST

    And not for nothing....

    by Mr. Profit

    But I agree with an above poster about Gwen being a bit chubby in the pics. I saw the pic in today&#39;s Daily News and noticed she looked heavier than I&#39;m used to seeing her. Bad camera angle?

  • May 29, 2006, 10:42 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m praying for this to be great

    by zikade zarathos

    I was let down by Spidey 2, but I didn&#39;t even know what the word "disappointment" meant until the abomination of X3. BRING ON VENOM!

  • May 29, 2006, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Mr.Profit

    by Jellylover

    Cameron&#39;s Spidey would have been better than Rami&#39;s? Are you the only one on this site who didn&#39;t read that god awful treatmeant? Webs all over his room and web fluid ozzing out of his wrist as a metephor for a wet dream! Get the fuck out of here man. he wanted Retardo the Crapio to be Peter and Electro to be a corporate criminal matermind. No No No! When I heard Rami was at the helm of the web-head films I dropped to my knees and thanked God. Cameron my fucking ass. And how in the hell did it bite Batman? Not once did I watch it and think, "Man this reminds me of some other superhero movie I saw". That&#39;s because it wasn&#39;t like anyother superhero movie ever.

  • May 29, 2006, 11:19 p.m. CST

    THERES A HIDDEN FACE IN THE TEASER IMAGE!

    by P33KA

    It is Shemdawg and his mom.

  • May 30, 2006, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Mr. Profit

    by Ribbons

    I don&#39;t think so. About the death of Gwen Stacy thing, I mean. It&#39;s been awhile since I read that treatment; many many moons ago... sigh... but yeah, I&#39;m pretty sure MJ was Pete&#39;s squeeze in his story. And I think at the end, she found out he was Spider-Man, and then they had sex, or something. Can anyone back this up?

  • May 30, 2006, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Carl Weathers

    by stalfos

    His name caught my eye... was hoping he&#39;d be venom or something... Can&#39;t we just have a Carl Weathers movie where he is himself and still does heroic things?

  • May 30, 2006, 7:22 a.m. CST

    captboulder

    by Ribbons

    Well I&#39;m pretty sure he&#39;s supposed to look pretty unhealthy in that picture. If you&#39;ll look he&#39;s got those crazy bags under his eyes that you can only get by applying make-up diligently to your face or being Vince Vaughn. Badump-ching! But seriously, he is supposed to look sickly in that shot. As for the pimples, well, so what? Everyone gets pimples. That doesn&#39;t prove that he&#39;s all wrong for the part of Spider-Man, it just proves that his pores are clogged.

  • May 30, 2006, 7:59 a.m. CST

    heard during premiere of spidey-3

    by durhay

    that black suit is fake! The projectionist must have hand painted each frame! It&#39;s really blue and red!

  • May 30, 2006, 8:11 a.m. CST

    durhay

    by Ribbons

    And I&#39;m told that, if you look closely, you can see the smallest bit of Spidey&#39;s blue and red costume on the left forearm, peeking out from underneath the paint job...

  • May 30, 2006, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Re: "Bryce is a fat ass"

    by brycemonkey

    Way to give someone a complex! <sob!> Ohhh, a doughnut...

  • May 30, 2006, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Y&#39;ALL LAUGH AT ME NOW. SAM KNOWS I&#39;M RIGHT!!!

    by Shermdawg

  • May 30, 2006, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Well, if they HAD to do Venom...

    by Childe Roland

    ...(and I still don&#39;t think they did), I&#39;m glad they took the character in such a different direction from the original 90s comics. Aside from a very brief period where he was actually menacing in a deranged/obsessed stalker kind of way, the character in his original incarnation has always blown goats. Big, stupid, BORING anti-Spidey. A retread of a concept already done to death by DC (as big an embarrassment as Bizarro as far as I&#39;m concerned, and a pale shadow of Zoom). I&#39;ve never read Ultimate SPider Man, but I enjoyed the first compilation of Ultimate X-Books and the first issue of Ultimate FF that someone sent me to look at. If this character (Topher&#39;s Venom) is written as smartly as any of those, this could be quite decent.

  • May 30, 2006, 8:58 a.m. CST

    There Are NO Apologists

    by Sean38

    Not for the Spider-Man movies. Because there is NOTHING to apologize for. Spider-Man 2 is simply the finest superhero movie EVER made. Better than Batman Begins. Better than The Incredibles. Better than the original Superman. That Raimi has a unique take on the character and his universe is a GOOD thing. So take your apologists accusations and shove them up your fat, geeky ass.

  • May 30, 2006, 9:05 a.m. CST

    better than Condorman?

    by durhay

  • May 30, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I was there from 10-11AM on Sun

    by yanksno1

    Very cool to see this story pop up online since I was there from 10-11AM on Sunday morning. Not sure if the black suit is fakes (the one link leads me to believe they weren&#39;t) but I can say from 10-11AM Tobey Maguire was wearing that white T-Shirt, blue jeans (as seen in those pics from the link), plus blue tinted circle sunglasses. They were mostly rehearsing during the hour I was there, and were about to shoot a scene when we left. Tobey left the scene around 10:45 or so in a black SUV, and what was really cool was that he waved to us as he drove away. I also saw James Cromwell there as well. But I can confirm at least during that hour, Tobey wasn&#39;t wearing the black suit. The spiderman in the pics above was a stunt double as well, and I heard from other people that they were using the cranes that were there for some climbing (I&#39;m assuming). During the hour they cleared the street for an ambulance to drive by, not sure what that was all about but I&#39;m assuming they shot it since they cleared the street. That only happened one time though. Well, not much else to chime in with and not much happened. Had to get to the Yankees game so I couldn&#39;t stay longer. Pretty cool to see the shoot though, can&#39;t wait to see that scene in the movie (if it makes it).

  • May 30, 2006, 10:41 a.m. CST

    God...

    by Dantheman2k2

    k I&#39;ll go out on a limb and say that the black costume is probably just something Peter made to deal with the death of MJ to convey his solitude and how depressed he is....enter Eddie Brock and Venom...ppl mistake Spidey for Venom and JJ can blame Spider more only to have Spidey change his suit back and fight for good

  • May 30, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    NEW JERSEY LOCATIONS ????

    by optimist008

    Anybody know where in New Jersey they are filing please ??? Thanks Much.

  • May 30, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I don&#39;t think we&#39;ll be seeing venom either.

    by Thumper2k1

    It may just be that some one is pretending to be Spider-Man (working with eddie so he get "exclusive" shots) and Peter changes his outfit to distinguish himself from the poser. It would explain why there is 2 differnt versions of the Spider suit on that set. I could be (and probably am) wrong, but if venom was in this movie, they would try to hide that fact as best they can.

  • May 30, 2006, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Re: "Bryce is a fat ass"

    by Jon Zuckerman

    Shes got a harness for wires under her clothes you dicklicker

  • May 30, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST

    ACHTUNG!!! Frankie Muniz is the One, True.

    by Borgnine JR

    ..Peter Parker!! Look to him for the Re-Boot!!

  • May 30, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    BTW, Howie Long would make a sweet...

    by Borgnine JR

    ...Eddie Brock.

  • May 30, 2006, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Nothing to apologize for?

    by rev_skarekroe

    I&#39;m sorry, but even though I loved the Spider-Man movie, the Green Goblin costume still sucks.

  • May 30, 2006, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Right on concerning the GG costume, rev.

    by Childe Roland

    Why the happy fuck would you go to all the trouble of casting one of the creepiest looking actors in Hollywood (DaFoe&#39;s face is just scary...like an evil mime) and then cover it up in a full metal facemask? A little green paint and some prosthetics would&#39;ve gone miles farther than what we got. I still think a younger DaFoe would&#39;ve made the perfect Joker for the new Batman franchise. Maybe if they borrowed that de-aging software from X3?

  • May 30, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST

    whoever said this is emo

    by quadrupletree

    yeah? Did you see the first two movies? The soundtrack for the last one featured Dashboard Confessional, do you think they&#39;re targeting the emo crowd? So what, it works for Spidey, he&#39;s always got personal problems and feeling sorry for himself, that&#39;s the character. They&#39;re just playing to an audience that likes that sort of thing. Get over it.

  • May 30, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Borgnine JR, Muniz sucks. Nuff said. Nuff said.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 31, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Holy Sh*t IMDB says...

    by runfoodrun

    The actress who plays May Parker is also playing CARNAGE!!!

  • May 31, 2006, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Re: monkey_king

    by Monkey_King

    Sadly, the peeps at Sony(and our beloved EVIL DEAD creator Raimi) have taken a page from the boneheaded &#39;Ultimate&#39; books and "ignored" the original Spidey continuity in favor of the shitty-as-all-Hell teeny-bopper version(Trust this hairy immortal ape. I get headaches explaining it to my 10 year old nephew on a weekly basis). They should&#39;ve left Venom/Brock out of it entirely and used the Vulture with Wayne Pygram or Ben Kingsley playing the mean ol&#39; bird. The Gwen and Venom angle sucks Donkey turds and screenwriter Alvin Sargent should be strung up and flogged.

  • May 31, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    A thought..Wasn&#39;t Venom ripped off from &#39;Split Second&#3

    by Monkey_King

    The killer/creature from the Rutger Hauer film &#39;Split Second&#39;(funny, haven&#39;t seen a DVD release for this one yet) looks suspiciously like an oily black amalgamation of Venom and Carnage with huge weird shades. Anyone else agree?

  • June 1, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST

    the custome sucks

    by bipple

    so i won&#39;t be surprised if somehow this is good just cause its sam raimi but what i piss off after seeing the cool photoshopped custome and this ghey one, crep!!!!!!! CREP I SEAYZ

  • June 1, 2006, 12:11 p.m. CST

    dyslexic when tired

    by bipple

    for sure i&#39;ll still see it, never see xmen 3 cause it will never as cool as the what if issue if the phoenix had lived and i don&#39;t want that image of vinnie jones in my head

  • June 1, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Teaser on Superman Returns

    by LilOgre

    According to Raimi - who was being interviewed by some fanboy - over on Superherohype. So who knows - may not be plausible but he also said we probably would not see Venom in the teaser.

  • June 1, 2006, 12:37 p.m. CST

    And Venom will have a White Spider

    by LilOgre

    according to the same interview.

  • June 1, 2006, 11:29 p.m. CST

    by KokopelliJoe

  • June 4, 2006, 3:37 p.m. CST

    by KokopelliJoe

  • Sept. 30, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Topher as venom

    by Venomous

    At first, I thought the same thing about Topher being the worst choice for Venom. But then I began to realize... If Venom is supposed to be like Spidey's evil twin. Then Topher makes perfect sense. I am a huge Venom fan and I now welcome Topher as Venom. He looks every bit the evil twin to Tobey. Initially, when I first saw the casting before any parts were revealed, I thought Hayden was going to play Venom. But Topher, in my opinion, was a very smart choice for Venom.