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GHOST RIDER kicks it into gear with two trailers in HD!
Hey folks, Harry here... I've read two drafts of GHOST RIDER... the one that is going to be in theaters next year and then the script by David Goyer, his very best script he ever wrote btw. Now I know, that sounds like I'm about to rag on Mr DAREDEVIL, but I'm not. His script had some things that I've wanted to see my entire life... namely the old west version of the GHOST RIDER and in the trailers that popped out of the Apple world today... there's a shot that literally gets that little boy that played with EVIL KNEIVAL toys and pretended they were Johnny Blaze toys. I've been a GHOST RIDER fan ever since MARVEL SPOTLIGHT #5 and in all that time I've never once cared for the writing... to me GHOST RIDER was an illustrated character. Something for the covers, something for the panels. The best written the character has ever been is in these two scripts... and the more purely fantastical version is the one we're getting. David Goyer's version was the pure horror take. Flesh burning from the bone, an agonizing transformation, a tormented soul... an angry furious spirit of vengeance that seared the flesh of sinner's souls to deliver them to Mephisto. I liked that Hard R take... but I also like the fantasy version of the character that we're getting. This one, my nephew is going to freak out after. "Flaming Zombie Biker" he'll say. Actually, he'll say GHOST RIDER... he's edumacated. Here's one more reason to check out X3 on Friday...
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...about this one and maintain that if ever there was a superhero role Cage was born to play, it's Johnny Blaze.
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...but I am.This looks good,although the fx are obviously verey rough at the moment!
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That'll teach me to do twatty things!
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Nick Cage just kills me
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shit
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Why does it look like shit?
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Oh wait... uhh... make that eighth. Anyhoo, both teasers looked pretty good. I mean they don't show a whole lot, but what they did show was solid, at least. Sam Elliot looks cool in costume, the effects are surprisingly good. I'm still not convinced that the villains aren't cheesy "ghouls" though.
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But I still have serious doubts about this one.
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That looks like complete crap. This shit may have been ok 10 years ago but not today.
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Why does he have skeleton hands? He would look so much tougher with the spiked gloves like in the comics and I wish they would have gone with the later style of Motorcycle, it's so much more menacing than a souped up Harley. Still, that shot of him riding up the building looks pretty cool...
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It doesn't look like that skull is attached to the body. It bobs around like it's floating up there.
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I had NO expectations when checking that trailer out, and I was pleasantly surprised. Don't know the comics at all. A flaming Nic Cage looks fine to me.
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What a complete pile of shit. That looks so bad its funny.
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HEEE!!! That made me hurt in good places.
I'm pissed we have to wait 8 months. And Wes Bentley is looking like a demonic Lestat which is perfect for him.
Yeeehaa!
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and im okay with that. all the effects look hardcore awesome. sure, its a silly character, but maaaan.... im so happy that we're getting these movies now!
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is still asstastic. i'm not one to pre-judge but i was not impressed with that trailer.
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Also...Nic Cage's hairpiece is distracting.
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So then it will only "mostly suck"
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Don't worry, they can probably adjust the kerning in the 8 month's before the movie's release.
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this is the worst piece of garbage ive ever seen. holy merciful god. that shot at the end of the international trailer, please tell me that is not a finished fx shot. it looks like something out of a cheap sci fi original film. Oh my god, i cant stop laughing. How much did they spend on this?
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For Eva Mendes I'd do almost anything...within reason, fuck HITCH!
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...Apart from the flaming dude on the horse!
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Looks like it has Mark Texeira style all over it
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My Quicktime is all f-ed up and I want to join in :-(
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Sam Elliott might, *MIGHT* make this worth a matinee price.
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...or does that look simply fuckin' ridiculous?
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That looks really cool actually.
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That trailer was pretty bad. I sure do hope those effects are only about 10% done, because they looked really nasty. I'm usually very supportive of comic book movies, and it's very hard to get me to *not* look forward to a movie, but Ghost Rider has just done that. I can't put my finger on what it is, but I couldn't possibly be less excited about this movie. I really, really hope they prove me wrong.
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After watching the trailer, I was looking at the logo and thought it looked weak. The font should be bold and heavy-looking. This one has "intern design" written all over it. Most comic book movies at least get the dang LOGO right. Yeesh! I'm getting so jaded in my old age.
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..that looks shit
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If you're effects aren't done. Don't friggin show it. It looks like it could be a cool movie, but really in this day and age don't show your hand before all the cards have been dealt.
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I mean holy crap could Cage be any more Con Air bad texas accent they should used Jesse James as him.... Well Cage still has a bad hair piece.
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Complete and utter. I wanna see the SFX of course...but c'mon.
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book. Thats how he's supposed to look.
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The shot in the international trailer of him emerging from the water looked unfinished. And is it just me, or was the final shot of him jumping off the building pretty much the same shot from Daredevil?
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The great thing about these outcome-based talkbacks is you don't have to be anywhere near first to SAY you're first. That way, we can all know that we are FIRST!! in our own special way.
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I just wanted Cage to say 'Drive fast...' ala H.I. McDonough, garcicr said it right I think. This looks terrible. Is this the beginning of the end of the line for Marvel films?
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Hahaha, Awful.
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But leave it to Mark Steven Johnson to go all Daredevil on it. Like most modern action directors, he has this strange way of shooting action in the lamest of angles. Don't forget rubbery CGI and squeaky clean looking filmstock (A pg-13 staple!) This should look more like the crow or blade 2 than fantastic four, but maybe that's just me.
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...is that I never 'got' Ghost Rider whatsoever, have no interest in the character at all, and would barely know 'Johnny Blaze' from Johnny Storm. So I'm going to avoid all the trailers and clips and reviews and just check the thing out. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Probably the best comic to film adaption of an image out side of Reeve's Superman. I really thought they were going to fuck it up but the rider looks terrific. Cage as Blaze looks pretty good as well.
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wasn't it you that blasted the footage that they showed at Comic Con last summer? Now you are talking about how much you are in love with GR. How about just reporting news instead of spouting opinions before seeing movies. BTW land of the dead sucked!
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is the last one of the pic.
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Ghost Rider. Along with preproduction on ten more characters. What's the deal with Warner Bros? They own DC comics outright. They're movie production team for developing their superheroes into feature films is a bysmal compared to marvel. At the rate they're going, Marvel will likely release films for Capt. America, Silver Surfer, IronMan, and the SubMariner (let alone a few sequels to already launched franchises e.g. Spidey 3, next year) before we get another Batman or Supers flick. Certainly all of the above listed character's films will be released before we get a Wonderwoman, Flash, Green Latern, or Aquaman film
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that is incorrect.
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Jake Busey = Guy Gardner
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If they're gonna be making movies of 2nd tier heroes, what about a gritty, violent, grindhouse R-rated Moon Knight or Heroes for Hire? Or Doctor fucking Strange?! They can find room for Ghost Rider and Ant Man but not these other guys?
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idiots.
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Your headline should win some kind of award. That was good.
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If you guys think you can do that much better a job, then you should be out moving and shaking and making it happen. This looks like a perfectly good take on the character, the effects look decent if not flawless, and it looks like good fun. Now if they could only add a scene where Ghost Rider is riding up the side of the World Trade Center, it'd be the perfect summer popcorn movie. Except that it's coming out in February. Counter-programming for Valentines?
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I meant Power Man and Iron Fist, not the newer lineups...
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And nobody is an "idiot". We're all unique and special in our own way, and we respect each other for that.
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I dunno, but I always dug Ghost Rider a whole lot more than Moon Knight, or heroes for hire. Although I don't really see Ant Man as a movie, either. Ghost Rider always seemed very cinematic. Although, on the DC side of things, Deadman always seemed very cinematic, and they haven't come up with a Deadman flick yet. Still, Ghostrider is a little higher on the second tier than Moon Knight. What about Cloak and Dagger? At least there could be a scantily clad hot chick with white hair in that movie.
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Jeez Harry, when I played with his toys I also read the box.
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I cut my comic teeth on Texeria's Ghost Rider. Got me into funny books - and got me into drawing, which is how I make my living. Harry's right - GR is an illustrator's dream. Looking forward to the film - ten dollars on the alter of my childhood anti-hero and hang the haters.
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That looks like crap. Crap, I say!
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Yeah, the effects looked a little unfinished, but damn! some of it looked pretty badass. Marvel get my 8 bucks again....Damn you Ghost rider! (ps - really good dope helps make these 2nd tier flicks more bearable)
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Fuck yes! That is awesome!!!
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I love the cowboy rider -- very very cool.
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Guys c'mon. Has no one ever actually set a skull on fire except me? The skull turns black fast. He would have look much more menacing if the skull would have been black or blackened surrounded by flames. I also think the bike is too flashy. The horse that death rides (horsemen of the apocalypse) is pale and starving. The bike should be a rusted burned husk. Other than those personal preferences... I am sold. I will definitely see this movie. I have no idea what the storyline is because I've never read this comic. By the way, the coolest angel of death was in Baron Munchausen. Best Ever.
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I don't know. That doesn't seem that bad to me. I literally had no interest in this movie before the trailer. Now, I might actually consider seeing it.
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is there any other download sites, i run winME, and the quicktime nazis wont let me have quicktime 7
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I'm guessing you haven't checked out either of the newest series of Moon Knight... pretty dark for a Marvel title. Get the right director (I'd like to see Fincher direct a tights & fights movie... especially with a grittier hero)
If the casting was right for Cloak and Dagger, I could be talked into seeing it.
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I guess they blew their budget on Nic Cage? That looks on par with Electra and Daredavil, no thank you.
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I'm serious. Much better than X-Men 3.
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What could people be bitching about? And I really liked Daredevil -- The Director's Cut.
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LMFAO @ the haters. Too bad your dick doesnt get hard for a nice shot of eva mendes ass and watching Ghost Rider swing chain while riding down a skyscraper!!! Fucking soullesss shitbags.
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C'mon. Give it up. Ghost Rider is here!
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Ok, let's ride! (Original dub version of Akira)
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"...uhhh... what the hell was that?"
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I read Moon Knight early on, from origin to late 80s, then stopped. I've read maybe 5 comic books in the past 15 years. But, given thought, I'd definitely take Moon Knight over Ant Man. But Ghost Rider looks cool. I'm looking forward to it. I've seen the worst two comic book movies made recently--that would be Daredevil and Elektra--and they weren't that painful. Like watching an episode of some show on the Sci-Fi network. I might feel differently had I paid money at the thater, but . . . I'm looking forward to X3 and Ghostrider. And both trailers are pretty good (but it's hard to make a good trailer: The Devil Wears Prada trailer is the perfect trailer, but it would hard to do something like that for popcorn flicks X3 and GR. Not impossible to do a perfect trailer for such flicks, just hard).
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Oh yeah, Ghost Rider looks like it will kick ass. That shot of him riding alongside the cowboy? AWESOME.
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...have you seen the Director's Cut? Not a smartass question -- I'm just curious as to who's seen it and who's bashing the theatrical cut. You're allowed to hate either version all you want.
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Yes we are out there. As for Ghost Rider, I will see it now. I dug the trailer a lot. The domestic more than international.
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.. to figure out why it felt so corny lookin'. I don't know if I'm going to bother paying or even downloading this one.. will wait until there's a free copy in my local library. On a positive note, I'm glad that Skeletor is acting again after that sad He-Man movie...
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I mean seriously it looks better than any of the comic books have since the seminal seventies run. Skew Danny Ketch and skrew H8TERZ. Hahhaha. See you in HELLLLLL!!!! Hahahahaaahha. Ah. Try liking things once in a while you'll feel better.
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How can you say this looks crappy? It's exactly like the comic book!!!
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(sorry about the previous post)
The two issues of the new Moon Knight series have actually gotten me to subscribe to a comic for the first time since Web of Spider-Man came out.
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I wasn't sure about the first one despite the art because it was like, yeah, okay, were have I seen this ninety times before. Second one reeled me in. If they don't watch it they'll have a viable property in a few years. Movies and whatnot.
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Fuck yes, I'll see this!
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I think too many people are dismissive of Moon Knight being Marvel's version of Batman, even though there's a lot more to the character than him using gadgetry. But I've got my fingers crossed that the Fist of Khonshu will be with us for a while...
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But it looks really cool!
Sure, the CGI effects seem not be 100% finished, but I really like the creative use if it.
The destruction trail of the bike is cleverly done.
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And I didn't think he'd be right for Johnny Blaze. He looks ten years younger.
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Are you the same ones that think Superman Returns looks "gay" and hating on THAT comic book movie? Hey you're free to like what you want I'm just confused as hell.
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Holy cow that looks goofy
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On a face like that, ya gotta have some greys..(i know the age is miscast from the comic!_
and that score...some old overblown bollocks with a buncha cows howling..i actually watched it with the sound off and it seemed heaps better
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I just saw that Mark Steven Johnson is credited as a co-writer on this. He's responsible for, among other things Simon fucking Birch.
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Movie looks freakin' awesome.
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They really held to the comic. Nic work.
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Don't know if this is locked or not. But it's pretty fucking sick regardless! Don't think music is final though. Da Vinci?
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Fuck that. I want to see this now!!!
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Check again moron, the Gloves are there. They wanted to establish that GR is a skeleton and not just a floating flaming skull.
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I know he's the plastic bag kid but who does he play in the movie?
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That makes "Freddy and Jason--place your bets!" sound like Shakespeare; good that at least one teaser dropped the line. Having said that, there are some TERRIFIC images in these trailers, and Cage looks like he's having fun in a movie for the first time in years. The voice of Sam (Beef, it's whats for DINNER) Elliot can make anything sound impressive; the man's got one of the deepest white man voices this side of Lance Henriksen. And Eva Mendes looks hhhhHOT! BUT...I do hope they do a little work on that skull head; right now it looks like one of those masks you can buy at Wal Mart or something. The quick flashes of it are much better than the full-on look at the end...too tame, I guess I'd say. Let's horrify it up a bit! For that matter, why WASN'T Goyer's original script used; and who exactly tweaked the one we're getting?
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What did I think about it? To quote Brittney Murphy, "I'lllll never tellll."
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The son of the Devil I think, or at least that was how he was portrayed.
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Check out this new image of the Man in Blue; the Taiwan movie poster. First I've seen where Routh really looks like Superman!
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WTF is that thing?
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Okay, sure, I get it: In 2006 when a movie gets released that features a motor vehicle driving up buildings it's "The coolest thing ever!" But when Joel Schumacher innovated it back in 1995 you all bitched and moaned like Tom Cruise talking Psychiatry. You're all filthy hypocrites!
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I dont know. It looks ok. The effects still need a lot of work. The part at the end where he swings the chain around his body looks god awful. The skull looks so bad.
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YES!!!! I made the first and (please God) only "Too Soon!" joke! I rule somewhat! I'm pretty terrific! Go me, please! BTW, trailer was cool. I wanna see Eva Mendes get third degree burns..... IN THE PANTS!!!!!!
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I don't know what people are talking about when they say it's fake. What's fake? It's a friggin' skeleton on fire riding a motorcycle!
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With special effects/CGI being the driving force behind getting the superhero bandwagon authentically moving, I have been having a ball.Until now.
The quality seems to be fading as the studios get slightly more careless and/or care-free with these adaptations. The lower down the Hero Icon Chain, the worse the treatment.
I am indifferent to Ghostrider, but after a promising bone-crunching Kneivel style smash, the title characters CG effects are not up to much. I can only assume that with such as long time to go before release the movie is going to have the effects upgraded(like King Kong-but on the cheap!)
The movie world needs to realise that CGI cannot convince on its own- unless the budget is immense on a par to LOTR, Kong, Supes Returns etc. Particularly when you have a bike tearing up the side of a building- stupid beyond words!
The final shot of the Ghost rider and his chain looks like a below par animated film link from a game console we often see between levels! Not a great way to entice people to see a film.
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Can anyone tell me who built that chopper?
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I've actually seen a skeleton on fire riding a motorbike and I can honestly tell you that that trailer was unrealistic. Actually replace the words "a skelton" with the word "Cher" and the words "a motorbike" with "her dike daughter".
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This looks great! They were right to hold it back till next year, the february date will ensure box office,no competition that time of year for this type of flick I guess. plus a big name like Cage will help too!
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But any time Ghost Rider is standing around or getting close-ups he looks dreadful. Not to mention Nicholas Cage's ridiculous, sagging face: Great for hang-dog drama protagonists, not so great for superheroes.
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...into the kickass John Romita Jr. design, then there is literally no reason for this movie to exist. The trailer seems to show Wes Bentley changing into SOMEthing... but nothing good.
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I agree, he should transform like in the comic.
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"That wasn't part of the deal, Blackheart! THAT WASN'T PART!!!"
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...it looks like he IS transforming into something pretty damn scary. They should have shown more!!!
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You spoiled bastards. It doesn't have to be a perfect recreation of reality. As long as you can reasonably believe the fantasy world, while stoned, it's good enough for me. Cut it, print it. Lemme see the sucker
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did the cg shot of optimus prime transforming that's going around the net to do this, b/c the fx look like pixar did them circa 1997.
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Ghost Rider has been around alot longer than Spawn.
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First Spider-man, now Ghost Rider. They are much better than Fox has been with their characters. Love the bike, man.
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I think everybody is so relieved that "The Johnson" hasn't turned in a steaming pile of digested corn that they are looking over below-par CGI and that corny moment at the end where Nic flicks his whip and transforms into the Ghost Rider with a mile long grin.
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"most people".
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The CG is awesome.
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I mean, the FX aren't great? SO what...they have almost a year to fix it. It will be better. I just hope the studio doesn't fuck this up like DD.
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Dag that looked cool. I don't know what people are complaing about. You do understand the concept the movie is based on right? It is a guy who rides a flaming motorcycle while his head is a burning skull. The trailer looks like it delivers big time.
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Seriously. I never read any of his books, even as a kid. Doesn't he throw gold discs or something?
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Domestic is much better IMHO. Really looking forward to seeing this. Been watching it on Youtube ever since this afternoon.
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Don't download it. It won't play on 90% of windows machines. The latest version is so buggy that it affects ITunes etc and you'll never see another QT preview until they fix it.
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effects look fine to me.good god whats your problem. its to be out next year. honestly, its pathetic the anount of people trashing a film they havent seen on the basis of a minute of watching a fricking teaser. what you all should be concerned about is Capitaine Corelli's wiggy . nice to see the tao of steve guy in there. eva's ass is also mighty fine
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I'm in agreement with the everybody else; why show your special effects laden movie trailer when the effects aren't finished. A hint as to GHOST RIDER'S quality is that release date. February? Along with September, it's commonly known as the shitty movie dumping ground.
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Hey PeterPeterPeter, if it's so much like the comic, then what's the point turning it into a movie? Go read the comic dude. Oh yeah... to screw idiots out of their lunch money...
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And raped my mother!
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How about instead we throw your dumb ass in leather and set you on fire? Is that practical enough for you? The trailer looked fucking awesome. Ghost Rider looks incredibly cool. And yeah, the shot with the modern GR and the cowboy GR was gold.... Oh yeah, I read an interview with the director and he said Blackheart WILL look like he does in the comics by the movie's end.
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past your beddy time, slugger. Got that show and tell tomorrow, so get a good night sleep after you're tucked in.
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who wanted to put his bike in Eva's trunk?
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...says it is absolutely horrible. Cage looks well too much into middle age for this fair. This has RAZZIE and NETFLIX all over it.
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it is released. Right now it's looking a little plasticy.
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...currently in the $2.99 an issues series, Moon Knight as the ability to piss, whine and moan. And he does it so well through the first two issues that that he seems to now be focusing the power of Suck straight from the Suck Source. Which pisses me off. He was always one of my favorite 'dark' heroes. Here's the Wiki link to answer your questions: http://tinyurl.com/kp4x5
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Somewhere. Also, I put FF and Daredevil and Elektra in the same category--watchable, not abysmally horrible, no where near what could have been done with the material (but when is that ever true)? Of course, I liked FF well enough because my expectations were so very, very low. Probably the same reason I liked Catwoman. I'd heard so many awful things about it, that it was such a steaming turd of a film, that when I saw it I was all, "That's not nearly as bad as I thought it was." Yeah, the new Moon Knight stuff looks really cool. But it would be even better if he rode on a shimmering white Moon Cycle, and said "By the Great God Khonshu, let's ride!" before transforming.
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for the old " all the industry type people i know" type comments... why would you netflex something that you didnt want to watch? too much time on your hands son?
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Have to go with the Intl. trailer due to the fact that it displayed a nice shot of Eva Mendes's AZZ! I Sho' nuff' didn't think that sexy little Mexi-Melt had an AZZ like dat...Looks a whole lot better than that flat-ass Burrit-Ho Cameron Diaz.
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Fucking sweet! I love this trailer!
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May 23, 2006 9:16:11 PM CDT
Ah, I see the SUPERMAN whiny fucks are here now, TOO...
by triumph poops!
For crying out loud, it's a guy dressed in leather and chains with a flaming skull riding on a flaming motorcyle. It's Ghost Rider all right and it looks pretty damn good to me. Fuck, what the hell are some of you expecting? I'm sure the comic fans out there will eat it up...the younger film goers will find it "cool"...and it'll probably do all right. I think as an overall creative property and film package, this one could have some legs at the box office. And since it's not supposed to be fucking Shakespeare, I'm sure those looking to simply have a good time with it will have a good time. That is, those who aren't MORE interested in being armchair quarterbacks -- I mean directors -- who think they know more about moviemaking, special effects, CGI technology, comics history or overall storytelling than anyone else in the world. Sheesh, I really am getting old. There was a time when I was a kid and we would just be BEGGING for movies like there are of late to satisfy our genre interests. SUPERMAN RETURNS looks fine, this looks fine, and all the whiny fucks who just love to tear down at things for the sake of tearing down -- or who think they can judge how an entire movie is going to be based on a freakin' trailer -- need to just throttle down their hate and just chill. Or as I said in the SR talkback, follow this tip: Just don't go to the fucking movie. You can sit at home alone and be a moaning, sad sack bitch...meanwhile the rest of us will be tossing down some popcorn and having fun.
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...something that interests me, but not willing to see in the theatre is all. I'd rather spend time on something worth my while and watch something I find bland looking for a slow night.
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Sounder words were never spoken. Stop da hatin' and embrace the magnificence of Eva Mendes's AZZ! Because it has sho' nuff' been blessed by the holy touch of GAWD.
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I gotta say I'm pretty sold on it. Sure it looks super ultra cheesy, but it also seems old school and true to the books, and most importantly it looks like a good time. Not to mention Sam Elliot, Peter Fonda and Cage are three of my faves.
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First thing: Did anyone really WANT this movie? Anyone? People wanted Spiderman, they want X-Men, they want Superman ... but Ghost Rider? No. No one wants this movie. That's what will make this movie fail. My prediction for opening weekend? 28 million if it's lucky.
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That's fucking hee larry us. What a piece o crap.
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You need to watch the international trailer because Eva Mendes' ass is fantabulous! Whammy! What's this skeleton you're talking about now?
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Um...what did you say? I understand "Eva Mendes". I recognise much of your type as english dialect. I also conclude that this is a positive post. You seem literate enough to capitalise the beginning of your sentences and include apostrophes where appropriate but you baffle me, sir. What the heck does "sho'nuff'" entail? I think "GAWD" means "God" based on the preceding "blessed holy touch" however wouldn't the apparently deliberate misspelling of His name offend Him and cast negative light on you, his wondering disciple? There's a lot of growing up to be done in this I think. Ridiculous, glodene. If that is your real name, I sincerely doubt it.
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2nd thing: Another reason this will fail? They're releasing it in February. What a miserable f'n month. Cold, rainy/snowy, Valentine's Day, Groundhog day. Not the kind of month you want for an action flick such as this. They should have released it in the Summer. On 2nd thought, 22 million on opening weekend.
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on it's 4th string properties, and completely ignoring it's tentpole titles that have a built-in following. I don't get it -- we get a Ghost Rider movie but no Iron Man? No Captain America? I mean, I know all those are in the works, but waaaay down the line. Ghost Rider looks great and all, and I'll be there to see it -- but why make this movie before their better-known titles?
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You can see the devil's reflection in the gas cap. It's Fonda. Pretty cool.
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And Peter Fonda for Mephisto is inspired. Cage IS Johnny Blaze. I don't care how old he is. That's his role. He owns it.
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Are you people fucking kidding me? Nicolas Cage is also too goddamn old and bald to play the part.
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We know you've sent Quint to seduce Avi Arad in his bed chambers to get a 1st glimpse of Venom in Spidey 3... where are the pics?
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Man that cut to the bone. You put me in my place. Ya sure did....ya. Ghost Rider looks like a damn good time. Even if some people think it uses too much CGI.
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May 23, 2006 10:38:29 PM CDT
Screw CGI. Use Calista Flockhart's head for the skull.
by heywood jablowme
It would probably be cheaper in the long run, too.
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Too soon damnit! It comes out in FEB OF NEXT YEAR!
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I miss that gag on this site. Oh yeah, shut the fuck up about Daredevil already! It was a 90% perfect translation from the Frank Miller origin story. Much more accurate that most of comic movies that are worshipped on this site. Affleck loved Daredevil comics as did Mark Steven Johnson. The unrated Director's Cut is a HARD R movie for those of you allowed to see those types of films. I hold it next to The Crow as far as adult fantasy/comic movies go. Flame away bitches!
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Ive never read the comic but the idea looks kind of lame in the trailer. Maybe the idea is really awesome and I just dont know it. By the way considering how negative you guys are Im surprise d more of you arent already ripping it apart. Im amazed.
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Someone is going see this, and then call in that farce George Noory on "Coast-to-Coast AM", tell him they saw a flaming-skulled demon riding a chopper on the Interstate, and in his very clueless, obviously disinterested way, he's going to 'believe' them, right before shilling some gussied-up AM radio/8-track player that doubles as a smoke detector to lonely, dumpy middle-aged women with scraggly raven hair, twelve cats (each adopted under a different Zodiac sign), and the entire Stevie Nicks LP collection. No, that "someone" will NOT be me.
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And this trailer does it justice, that's why a lot of people are digging on it. A flaming skull and a flaming motorcycle are never going to look 'real.' It's a fantasy idea in the first place. It's like saying 'That Orc looks fake!' It's a stupid, bullshit thing to complain about. Check out Superhero Hype if you're curious about Ghost Rider or any other comic. They are the hard core fans and they love this. Yes, it's easy to slam a movie like this, but I think it's very faithful and it's going to be HUGE.
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just right click and save as. then play in VLC media player. I find it plays better than the quicktime player. I seem to get an annoying jerking motion with quicktime player.
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any help?
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...that's why it's being released in February. Because that's where ALL the movies that "no one" wants go to minimize their loss for the studio. Beyond that, I have to imagine this movie getting openly mocked in the theaters, and the only people that won't be laughing will be the three 'necks in each showing not-so-discreetly getting blown by their knocked-up 'baby's mama' (or low self-esteem Sheetz cashier chick). I'm not one to nitpick CGI, but this currently looks a flaming chain link above direct-to-DVD caliber work. More importantly, it just looks fuckin' stupid, and I don't know how Ghost Rider on the big screen CAN'T. Plus, it positively REEKS of Nic Cage's inner-geek vanity project. Oh well, there's always Eva. No CG needed there, knowwhatimsayin, knowwhatimsayin??
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...the f/x for this character seem WAY more complicated to pull of than even Spider-Man. You have a character in the air a lot, but also a motorcycle and fire as well. Maybe the studio will like what they see and dump more money into it before the release date. How many more dudes will get a Ghost Rider tattoo after seeing this? How many will buy a motorcycle? This could be a minor pop-culture phenomenon if done correctly. I personally think BOTH Spider-Man films were "ok" at best, so my taste obviously differs from many on this site who worshipped those movies. The Ghost Rider cast looks great! No Tobey McGuire or Kirsten Dunst anywhere in that trailer! Hurrah!
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I thought that they said they were moving it to summer? Anyway, don't care what the haters say. This looks fucking cool! What do people expect from a flaming skull on a motorcycle riding up a building? I like the dreamy cartoony quality. And for the record, yes, there are Daredevil (the movie) fans out there. I liked both cuts but preferred the director's cut.
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concept is so friggin lame...And the movie isn't doing much to convince me otherwise. Some of the CG is slick, but some needs so much work. That fucking skull has no texture whatsoever. It looks like a cartoon.
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What's with the Mummy fighting Ghosty? I can't make heads or tails on where they are going to with all this but i feel the end will be messy and seem tacked on. BTW- Ouch on that header.
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...Who wanted this movie? Well, I did. It could and will kick ass.
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I remain cautiously optimistic on this one. Oh I hope its good.
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if anyone ever finds a wmv post a link.
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The movie version we're getting looks like Constantine + more fun + the PS2 game Darkwatch + Nic Cage in Sailor Ripley mode x Eva Mendes' glorious ass! Oh, and a lotta fire and things blowing up. February NEEDS something to wake it up out of the Valentine doldrums!
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Looks good -- they'll get my 10 bucks off that trailer.
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Dear Mr. Womb2dooM
Sho' Nuff' is pica-ninny (old southern negro slang) for "sure enough" and "GAWD" was just me over enunciating god...Btw, I'm a devil may care hethen, so there is no need to concern yourself with the welfare of this wandering (not wondering) sinner. Oh! How do you know if God is a he and not a hermaphrodite?...And for that matter, who created God?...I digress, lets' get back to something more cerebral, like EVA MENDES'S AZZ, because it sho' nuff' makes me feel like Mr. Whipple an squeeeeeze on her charmin. YESSSSS LAWSY!
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Completely agree with your Dare Devil stance. Awesome fun movie and the directors cut rules! Not sure how relevant this is but I also loved Sam Raimi's "Darkman" (before he did Spiderman). "Give me the fucking elephant!"
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Please, call me Womb.
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I really liked the first half of the trailer...made you care about JB...but the 2nd half with GR just seemed way too cornball and overly-CGI. Granted, how else are you going to do a Ghost Rider movie...but still....
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It was a Thursday.
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but sadly...R rated movies are going extinct....
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Since I'm somewhat of a linear thinker, who created you?
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...Not great, but I didn't really expect it to be. It looks very nice visually and since this film is 8 months away I'm sure a lot will be done on the SFX. I remember comparing the explosion top shot on the highway (death of the twins) from Matrix Reloaded in the very first teaser to the final trailer and then the final shot in the film and you see how much FX change over time. As long as the filmmakers know they're making something cheesy and run with it this film should be good fun. Also I dig Nicolas Cage, he rarely disappoints me.
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Well, when a mummy God and a daddy God love each other very much...
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I have a solution: Romance movies. Chick Flicks. Whatever you want to call them. If you avoid Action/Adventure/Sci-Fi/Fantasy movies, you will be in great shape, and won't have to be bothered by all that pesky CGI stuff. Enjoy!
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we all know that isn;t the finished CGI.
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...why I despise comic nerds more than trekkies. What we have here, by the look of the trailers, is a comic book adaptation with exactly the right measure of cheese factor X for a comic of Ghost Rider's stature, i. e. a solid, lower middle class property. Not only that, but Ghost Rider looks to be -- at least visually -- the most faithfully adapted superhero so far. For a normal comic fan or Ghost Rider fan, this would be more than enough. So what do we get? Well, apart from the reflex-o-haters who think they sound clever by saying that a burning skeleton on a motorcycle "looks ridiculous," we get the most odious of fantards -- the ones who feel that their own particular third tier hero who helped them get through puberty deserves nothing less than the royal treatment. You know, the ones who say they'll boycott a Jack Of Hearts film if it doesn't star George Clooney, isn't directed by Spielberg for 300 million dollars, and doesn't have the combined talents of both ILM and Weta behind it. I don't even want to get into the CGI crybabies. Or moviemack.
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I was very impressed with how this looked. Ghost Rider is another one of those character that I was never that attached to, like F4 and I really enjoyed that film so this looks like it'll be loads of fun. Batman Begins sucked, Superman Returns will suck, Punisher looked awful, Hulk was very cool in the moments when it wasn't a bit long and boring, Blade was okay, Blade II was amazing, Blade Trinity was only fun when Ryan Reynolds was onscreen backtalking Parker Posey, I haven't seen Daredevil or the X-Men films, Spiderman 1 & 2 were pretty damned good except for the fact that his costume looked like it was made by the costume department except by a kid, Batman Forever was fun, Batman was great, Batman Returns was okay, Batman & Robin is so bad it's almost hilarious but not quite, Rocketeer was pretty cool, The Shadow was so very good it's almost a "how to" for how to balance the lements of comic book adaptation, that and Superman The Movie and Superman III are just about my favourite superhero films overall, Superman II is spotty and Superman IV has so many problems that I feel a bit sorry for it and just want to give it a hug while shooting it in the head. The abolute best Superhero films are the animated ones Mask of the Phantasm, Last Son Of Krypton, World's Finest, Batman Beyond and Retur Of The Joker are so good it's just unfair to any other interpretations. Rant over. In short Ghost Rider looks like it'll be lots of fun.
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Captain America was put on hold untill a certain unnamed director that Avi Arad wants to helm it, is free to do so. (Hint: It's Spielberg)
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that does actually look kinda cool, if they can get the cgi better by next year, itll rock! cant wait for this..
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what's the deal with the flaming motorcycle ghost? Doesn't seem like a particularly interesting concept.
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I have to say that I've been concerned about a GHOST RIDER movie with Nick Cage. (Haven't been a fan of his since RAISING ARIZONA.) But that image looks fantastic. I love Ghost Rider. It was one of the very first comic series that I ever collected. That, Man-Thing, The Thing, Spider-man, The Hulk and any horror comics I could get my hands on. I guess you could say I had a thing about tortured souls. I never thought I'd ever see a Ghost Rider movie. A) I didn't think it was that popular a comic book. (I seemed to be the only one purchasing them. Even with them getting re-released and made over in the late 80s, early nineties.) And B) I just didn't think any of it was filmable. The whole thing is so outlandish and chaotic. When you try to explain the story to a friend, it just sounds ridiculous, and downright silly in parts. I guess we'll see. And I'm still concerned about Nicolas Cage.
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Where is Ringbearer9 and what does he think of the color being used for the flames in these trailers?
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1) I think maybe Ghost Rider is one of those characters that should've stayed a comic. He looks a little silly in real life. 2) I'm actually more interested in seeing a movie about the cowboy Ghost Rider you see for a few seconds there.
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Im not too fond of his look as the actual rider. I just cant take talking skeletons seriously it seems. Its cool on paper, but in live action it looks goofy.
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Eva Mendes's ass as one poster already said. The Intl Trailer is FAR superior for that shot of her butt in THAT dress walking down the street.The FX looked o.k. BUT what the FUCK is up with Nick Cage's hair ! Is this supposed to be a comedy?
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for the rest of us whos computers run HD trailers at ohh i dont know 3 frames a second?
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They have the king with Spidy and this Ghost Rider trailer looks damn good! Even better than Supes.
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There's 9 months of FX tweaking time left. MSJ can do action pretty well (i like DD and own the Director's cut) and the Cagemeister can do no wrong in action mode (yes i likes National Treasure too). I'm there opening weekend matey, but i'll wait for the director's cut on DVD for extra blood and guts.
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gr is a only 3rd tier title to the people who didn't read it. fantastic four, iron man and F4 look gay as hell to me and they're the big time comics. GR especially the 90's series was leagues above an other marvel that i had read at the time, so no dissin in dis house fool!
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... I think warners may have dodged a bullet there..
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Dude, don't get bent all out of shape. When I said third tier, I meant as in not in Spider-Man's or Superman's league in terms of popularity and influence. I read Ghost Rider when I was a kid in the 1970s and loved it to death, but I don't have any illusions about GR's importance. Nice Robert E. Howard ref, by the way.
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that this movie looks like shit. Shit, I tell you. And coming from Mark Stephen Johnson should have you all quaking in your boots. Even taking into account that this is a teaser, look at the Superman Returns teaser. Now, THAT was a teaser. What the GR trailer does is put you off seeing the movie.
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...but otherwise this looks like a pile of SHIT. The bit with "let's ride" where his skull then changes - holy fucking crapfest! The first Marvel movie (well okay, other than Elektra) that I couldn't care less about seeing. Nick Cage is a good actor but getting upstaged by your wig is NOT COOL. Plus this looks like it has Van Helsing levels of CGI bullshit all over it (which yeah, I know is probably necessary, but still looks like a fuckin cartoon). Think I'll give this a swerve.
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And Mendes would never look twice at your fat ass.
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Although it's not the int trailer so can't make educated comment on Mendes' rear end... Oh this is a TB? Yeah I'd hit that shit!!! I was struck by the though: Nic Cage in National Treasure = Nic Cage in The Rock. Just me?
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The shot from behind while she's walking. Whoa!
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...usually they fix it up when the movie comes out. Man, that Eva Mendes is one...what can I say...damn!!!
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I wish my font was bigger to really emphasize that. February release? Check. Terrible CG? Check. Guy with a flaming skull? Check. Guy with a chain on a flaming motorcycle? Check. Slo-Mo bullet time effects circa 1998? Check. Nicolas Cage? Check. This one has all the ingredients for a MAJOR DUD. Did I mention it's a February release? I did? Well, allow me to mention it again. That's where they dump turds. In February.
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Getting interested in this one!
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but the rest of the movie looks like ass!
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Will Ghost Rider be running into the Nihilist? Jackie Treehorn?
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The 'not particularly interesting concept' is yet another twist on Faust. So was Spawn._______________CG morons - how much worse would this look if the flames were practical elements tracked in (by hand and optically composited just to keep you shitheads happy)? Never mind February either. It'd take them another year and still look sub-par due to lack of interractive lighting and so on. Is that warranted? Jeez.
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You know, I'm usually the guy who always looks on the positive side of things... but this doesn't look that great. Everything about it just felt fake - the effects, the lighting, Cage's hair... neither trailer did anything for me. I hope they spend the next nine months working on it solidly to get it looking better.
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are there people who seriously think this still might be good ? that looks like the worst movie ever made. and for once I actually mean it. how in the fuck anyone can watch that and think "yeah i'll go and see that" That looked so bad i can't even put it into words.I do love how serious they seem to be playing it. that is fucking hilarious.
The effects look terrible. The shot of him riding up the building looks ridiculous and his flaming skull head is un-fucking-believable. the studio know it too.....hence the Feburary graveyeard release date. what in the fuck is nic cage doing?I thought that part in the new superman trailer where they go "is that a bird? no its a plane? Looking for me?" was fucking terrible but that one scene in that god awful looking new superman trailer is better than this entire fucking thing.and the guy who said it could have been worse...how? the only thing that could have made that worse was if while i watched it someone snuck up behind me and sodomised me with the horn of a fucking poached rhino. -
You get the feeling that vast stretches of the movie don't even have live actors. We're halfway to Final Fantasy here.
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I hate the current trailer standard badly. I should stop watching them, save a lil suprise. It might start turning craptacular eye-candy films into something more worthwhile to watch in a theater.
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And this is coming from a fan of MSJ's Daredevil flick! Seriously, I've never been a big fan of Ghost Rider and Nic Cage often gets under my skin in that irritating way, so this isn't necessarily the Comic Book Movie of the Century for me. But that said, I have been looking forward to it since I enjoyed Daredevil and dig the idea of Wes Bentley and Peter Fonda as the baddies. But after watching that teaser, all I can think is, well, how can this movie not suck? I know the digital effects crew has many more months to clean up the effects and make all the flame stuff look as good as possible, but this is the big teaser for the movie. This is essentially everyone's first real look at the flaming skull in action (unless you count that split-second clip from, what was it, Comic-Con a while back?). The animators and co. were clearly tasked to get these effects shots up to par so they could be included in the teaser. If they weren't ready, then they should have delayed the unveiling of the teaser. Because right now, the flame effects look fucking awful. I know fire is one of the toughest things to animate with CGI, but seriously, this is a little ridiculous. That big money shot at the end of Ghost Rider on his bike launching himself off the side of the building's wall with his chain flapping around is very cool in theory, but in its current form of execution, it looks like a glorified animatic. I dunno... can't say I'm much looking forward to this one anymore.
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Over the Hedge, Happy Feet, Cars, this, Shrek the Third...
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And anyone who says otherwise is fucking blind!!! I'm dying to see this!!!
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They could have doused Nick's head with gasoline and gotten at least one good take! Stupid fucks. It looks just like the comic. The Ghost Rider looks fantastic.
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...with 9months to further enhance the F/X & CGI this movie looks to rock. He should have the leather gloves though, but thats a minor issue.
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Someone had to say it.
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Trailer was kick ass btw
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It's ridiculous. It's almost cartoony. It's a flaming skeleton who rides a motorcycle. What else do you expect!? This is just going to be great popcorn fun. As long as it takes itself seriously. I actually like the scene at the end of the international, when he jumps on the motorcycle and flame on! That will look even better in 9 months.
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Haha, exactly what I say! It's like The Hulk all over again. How realistic can a 12 foot tall green man look. By the way, I thought the effects in the Hulk were good. And let's remember, this movie comes out in February, plenty of time to really give the effects polish. I see some really cool ideas in that trailer, give it time. This could work... And Eva Mendes is hoooooottttttt!!!!
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There is no way that Nicolas Cage will be anything close to good in this movie... He should stick to good movies.
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who ever said things had to look perfectly real to be considered good effects? getting sick of hearing that shit.
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when quicktime don't work
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Fall into two categories...
1) Those with incredibly good taste who think "Eraserhead" goes for the cheap thrills. ....And 2) Those who own Steven Spielberg's "Hook" in three formats. ....I'm willing to accept that any of you individually may fall into the first category but that begs the question of what you are doing on this of all sites, let alone a talkback. -
TOUCHE! That's why I was only this particular thread to objectify EVA MENDES'S AZZ!
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He said he's directing "Iron Man", no mention of "John Carter of Mars".
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gonna look it up on you tube. thanks for the link.
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that looked cool as shit!
say what you want about it, but it's ghost rider clear and simple. i only watched a tiny version so i can't comment about how bad the effects may be. but they have til january? to complete them.
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May 25, 2006 1:56:29 AM CDT
Didn't they already make the Haunted Mansion into a mov
by stewiegriffin
...and it flopped? I'm not a fan boy, so that just looks like utter crap to me. How about putting the obscure comic books away and spending those millions on some good, original filmmaking instead.
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An amazing trailer! this is what fans want to see. kick ass action! no fooking romance! real drama! i dont care if CGI looks real or not real. that aint the point. are comics real??? it is about if you get the feeling right. and so far it does that! it is just a shame this movie is out in february. i am sure if they continue like this this movie will do awesome at the 2007 summer box office. This movie is all what superman returns is not. a Real COMIC to Movie adaption! and so far me loves it. that bike jumping of the roof of that building is awesome. cage getting on fire and changing into ghostrider awesome too. i only would like it more if the skull look a little bit meaner. so it would look more bad ass. but anyway. so far awesome work! whoever work on it. keep up the good work! me as comic fan is really excited in this work
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Ghost Rider is a carnie comic. It was never supposed to be a big comic. It was somewhat an outgrowth of Jim Shooter who in the seventies and early eighties used Marvel to push a nihilisitc, aetheistic outlook. In that universe when any person died, good or bad, it was just a matter of which demon got to claim and fricasse the immortal soul. Dark, dark, dark. They even had Damion Hellstrom, a superhero named "The Son Of Satan" with a burning pentagram on his bare chest. Oh sure that's no Evil Ernie but still, at the time... Well anyway, Ghost Rider is a demon named Zarathos that is not good, but is obsessed with imparting punishment. And periodically he possesses the carnie stuntman who entered into this compact to save the life of his "stepfather"... Who in true carnie fashion was the father of his girlfriend. The stories for Ghost Rider were not Spider-Man like. These were dark, twisted tales, like old EC horror comics on steroids. ...Let me stress it wasn't a "good" comic much of the time, so much as it was an awesome comic. .....And the riding up the buildings thing was in the originals by the way.
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Am I the only one that sees a special four part episode of Pauly Jr. trying to figure out how to make bones out of metal? You know that's coming, mark my words.
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Dude, it's a movie based on a comicbook. If you have a hard time suspending belief or have utter disdain for fantasy/SCI-FI, this ain't the thread for you...So when Merchant/Ivory release another sleep-inducing (I'm trolling for Oscar consideration) flick and this Harry & Co-horts decide to cover it, then by all means wow us with your superiority complex.
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i would never buy it but it looks cool. for people complaining about things like the flame and the skull being wrong, it's called HELLFIRE. it's a mystical fire from hell. it doesn't act like normal fire, so it doesn't burn the skull. i know it burns away the outer man but that is also symbolic of the rider burning his way out and the person always comes back unburned and unharmed. therefore a white skull is correct. END NERD TRANSMISSION #2625353
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This looks like the biggest steaming pile of shit ever. Folks, it is being given a February release (you know, Hollywood dumping ground) so it is going to be just as big a turd as it looks. Anyone that thinks otherwise is either drunk or a plant.
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Hey guys. Glodene, I think Tom was joking. I mean, come on. If not, he's too far gone for you to bring him back, right, Tom? Cap, riding up the buildings in the comics looked SO FAKE! Evil Ernie? When all along we thought BERT was evil! But none of this really matters because like you I'm going to be there for EVA'S ASS.
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I do remember a bit of that because in a moment of delirium I patiently took Ringy through the basics of so-called 'realism' both in cinematography and design, explaining how 'real' effects like lipstick spots, milk in rain, sound synced to lightning flashes and so-on were just as 'fake' as any CG. Also how the colour and design of the dinos and vistas in Kong were purposely designed that way for dramatic, visual and emotional purposes (Jimmy still sucked arse though)._____________Yes it was stupid of me to try and I think I went away and just tried to block the whole thing from my mind.____________P.S. I'm pwned by Eva's Ass.
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Someone tell me if he makes the jump over the helicopters! I can't look!
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and... I can't believe Ghost Rider is actually getting made. It was a trash book for hash-addicted metalheads in the eighties. Here we are, 25 years later, watching it on the silver screen. I guess that means there's hope. Groo the Wanderer, anyone?
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Banned there's the shot with Eva's ass then the shot with the jump, but the effects aren't done and in the final film it won't be a helicopter it'll be a shark. ________________________________Dstrbo that'd be cool - Benicio Del Toro for Groo!
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Do yourself a favor and see it in the theater. It plays ten times better with a packed house on a big screen. The theater I was in erupted in applause (started by me)...
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GR will be a great entertaining popcorn movie even if that hack Cage is in it.
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I'll be in favor of it if someone will explain to me that Gerard Depardieu does not inevitably have to play Groo. Benicio Del Toro? Can't see it. Is he funny? What about Jean Reno? And why do we all seem to agree that Groo should be a non-USA actor?
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oh yes, the stuff.
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