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Jared-Syn City Says ROCKY BALBOA Isn't A KO...Yet!!


Merrick doesn’t understand why Stallone replaced that cute little squirrel…


Jared-Syn City e-mailed a report from last night’s screening of ROCKY BALBOA.

It should be noted that the film is slated for a late November release in Philadelphia, and will be issued Christmas Day everywhere else in America. As such, many of the criticisms Jared voices below may be addressed before the film’s final cut.

Or, maybe they won’t.


Either way, here’s Jared..



!!!BEWARE HEAVY SPOILERS!!!



Hey Aint it Cool peeps,

I went to go and see Poseidon on Friday and there was a guy there giving out passes to a Monday night sneak preview of ROCKY BALBOA.

I was excited, my girlfriend maybe not so much, but we signed up via the internet that night. We had to be between 17 and 49. When we got there we gave our names and ages again, and got put through a search for camera phones and the like with a hand held metal detector.

Some of the seats were taped off, but the theatre was quite full. Around movie time one of the staff got in front of the audience and told us that this was the first preview for this movie. He gave us the speech about how any reproduction of this film is a federal crime…yada,yada,yada. He told us to stay in our seats afterward to fill out the survey.

NON SPOILER SUMMARY – Right now it is pretty disappointing. There are some serious edits and pacing issues that need to be resolved before November. Keep in mind that this was the very first preview of the movie. Even in its current form it is 600 times better that Rocky V. There is some serious hope that this could be a very good or even great movie with some edits to it. No Mr. T cameo. No Talia Shire cameo. Fantastic performances by Stallone and Burt Young. Rocky and Paulie have some of the best scenes in the whole series in this movie.

The movie starts out with the trailer that was released a little bit ago with the close up on Rocky’s sweaty face talking about how it’s not how hard you can hit, it’s about how hard you can get hit. If you don’t like this speech, well then tough luck because it is repeated almost word for word two more times throughout the movie. We are then treated to the usual ROCKY opening with the words scrolling across the screen and the memorable Bill Conti music. If you are a Rocky fan you will like this moment, but those moments are unfortunately far an in-between in this rough cut.

The movie then shows Rocky getting up in his house in Philly, and going about his usual routine. He goes with Paulie to visit Adrian’s grave. This is a touching scene and both Stallone and Burt Young do a phenomenal acting job throughout the Movie. Rocky goes to visit his son, who says that he casts a “large shadow” and we see that he is not really happy about being the son of the famous boxer.

We see the restaurant that Rocky owns, called “Adrian’s” Spider Rico is a regular guest and Rocky lets him eat for free every time. Rocky and Paulie drive around town to visit all of the places that remind Rocky of Adrian. The pet shop, their old house, the ice skating rink. There is some more great work between Sly and Young when Paulie tells Rocky that he just can’t do this anymore. Rocky then goes to a tavern and meets “Little Marie” the little girl who he walked home in the first move. He drives her home and meets her son, Steps.

The whole middle of the move is convoluted and desperately need some editing. Rocky attempts to befriend Steps by giving him a job and a dog. All of this seems so unnecessary and goes absolutely nowhere. Rocky and Little Marie get closer and closer, but Rocky tells her that although his wife is gone, he is still married. They share a brief kiss in the film, but never allude to anything overly romantic, which is good because the movie hits you over the head with Adrian being gone, so it would have felt out of place. We see various scenes of Rocky Jr. ignoring his dad and we also see Rocky make at least, no kidding here, 4 more trips of Adrian’s grave.

The Mason Dixon character played by Antonio Tarver is about as cardboard as can be. They never try to make you hate him, like a Clubber Lang, but they don’t paint him as a good guy either. They do a silly thing on ESPN where a computer says Rocky would beat Dixon in a fight if both fighters were in their prime. This is accompanied with some unrealistic computer animation that got some chuckles from the audience. They talk about it on the 1st and Ten show on ESPN and pretty much say that Rocky was and is a bum. Rocky doesn’t take well to this.

Rocky decides that he wants to go back into boxing and there are three great scenes with Rocky Jr. telling him that it is a mistake, Paulie telling him that he hasn’t been the same since Adrian left him and Rocky tearfully says “She didn’t leave me Paulie, she Died” (This is the best scene in the move, really great acting by both and very moving) and another great scene where Rocky gets his license back from the athletic committee after they originally tell him that they won’t license him.

Dixon’s people then contact Rocky about the fight and Rocky is blown away by the offer. He says that he wants to just do some local stuff and wasn’t thinking about something that big. Eventually he decides that “fighter’s fight” after talking to Marie. After he takes the fight there is a big scene with him and Rocky Jr. that is pretty good about their relationship and how Jr. blames Sr. for all his woes. The next day Rocky Jr. meets Sr. at….Adrian’s grave and the reconcile with Jr. telling pop that he quit his job and that he wants to be with him for this fight. Semi – cheesy, but forgivable. There is a rather boring press conference with Dixon and Rocky that goes nowhere.

We then see Tony Duke training Rocky. It starts with a funny scene with Duke telling him that he doesn’t have speed or mobility thanks to his age, but he has strength and that is going to be what they focus on. We see Rocky lifting weights to the “Take it back” song. Then FINALLY we get to see Rocky training to “Gonna Fly Now” running up the stairs with his new dog and, of course, drinking raw eggs. This got a great reaction from the audience. The movie really needs more of these moments.

From there we go to the fight. There is an exchange between Rocky and Mason where Mason says that he will take it easy, but if he has to he will hurt Rocky. Rocky says something like “A lot of people come to Vegas to lose, but I didn’t” Fight time with the whole HBO PPV treatment, all of the graphics and music feel legit and Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant and Max Kellerman provide the commentary.

Rocky enters the ring to Sinatra singing “High Hopes” which was done for comedy, but it felt almost too silly. Mike Tyson is in the audience and Rocky says hi, the announcers and the setting are much more realistic that any other Rocky movie. Dixon comes out to boos and even has a verbal tussle with Tyson before the fight gets under way. The music that is played here MUST be temporary because it would be so much better with the Conti music.

There is some stuff where it goes black and white and only the blood is red. I don’t think this works like Sly wanted it to; it just comes off as distracting. In the final round Rocky almost gets knocked out, but gets back up to finish the round. Again, different music would have made this scene work much, much better.

The fight is over and Rocky. . . LOSES the fight via a split decision. I know we are going for realism, but it’s Rocky for God’s sake! Oh well. Rocky walks back to the dressing room and stands in the spotlight while the crowd chants ROCKY…ROCKY…ROCKY… He stands in the spotlight a moment to soak it all up. This is actually a very good, well shot scene with genuine emotion.

The final scene takes place at… Adrian’s grave. We see Rocky putting some roses on her tombstone, say a few words, and then finish by softly saying “Yo, Adrian we did it”

CREDITS

THE GOOD: Stallone gives a fantastic performance here. He doesn’t play Rocky like the punch drunk buffoon that he was in Rocky V. The story is actually pretty realistic, the Boxing scenes look genuine and the HBO and ESPN moments lend some credibility. Burt Young also has some great one liners ( Rocky – Hey Paulie we are just about to serve the special. Paulie – Hey Rocko, Italian food cooked by a bunch of Mexicans ain’t that special) and the scenes with him and Sly are great. The rare moments that we were treated to the familiar Rocky music were a treat and there was applause and cheers from the crowd.

THE BAD: Some MAJOR editing needs to be done. There are some scenes that screech the movie to a halt. There are seriously 6 or 7 trips to Adrian’s grave. After a while they lose their emotional impact. WE GET IT! She’s dead and he misses her! The Steps character has to go. He has no place and that whole storyline goes nowhere. When we were filling out our survey cards in the audience, what I kept hearing over and over again was that no one liked Steps. The movie in its current form is WAY too long.

There are times when it felt more like an ABC mini-series than a movie. Mason Dixon is neither a sympathetic character, nor a convincing bad guy. Tarver does a good job, but he has nothing to work with. The Music needs some pumping up, but I assume that this soundtrack will all be replaced.

There is a VERY GOOD movie in there, but in its current form it is absolutely mediocre. With some edits to make the movie shorter, some better music, and some more genuine “Rocky” type moments this could be a very good movie. Stallone gives a great performance here.

It will be interesting to see what changes are made when it is released in November.


Thanks a ton, Jared. NICE work. Was it difficult punching an e-mail though that damn Metalstorm?


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  • May 16, 2006, 4:57 p.m. CST

    First, and you sure your review wasn;t spoiler free?

    by axelfoley

    Because I read it and you're a fucking liar. This should be good. Liked the still 600 times better than V part. That soothed my concerns. A little disappointed Clubber will not be an announcer like originally thought.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Take it back...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...to the editing room.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Hope

    by LLcruize2

    Well, lets hope they shore this baby up in the editing room. Would like to see Stallone have one more shot at a hit.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Somewhere tonight...

    by DocPazuzu

    ....a furiously masturbating ABKing pauses in mid-launch when his Stallonegger-meter goes haywire... "A preview? Of Rocky Balboa? And I wasn't there?" *a lone gunshot is heard from Mr. and Mrs. King's basement*

  • May 16, 2006, 5:06 p.m. CST

    HAHAHA DocPazuzu!

    by Blue_Demon

    That killed me! Wonder where ol' Frank is now?

  • May 16, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Great review

    by Darth Thoth

    I hope you made these same comments after the screening so the studio gets them and amends as needed. Also, I heard that they actually filmed multiple endings so who knows what he'll get come winter. All in all, great review. Thanks.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Sounds dreadful

    by chickychow

  • May 16, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST

    HEY FUCKER!!

    by Hail

    Thanks for clearly sepearting the Spoiler section and non-spoiler section. It really helped in RUINING THE MOVIE FOR ME!! fuckhead...

  • May 16, 2006, 5:16 p.m. CST

    No Tommy Gun?

    by optimus122

    You couldn't pay me enough to see another Rocky movie. The dudes almost 60! Maybe he is already 60 , there's no way Ill be seeing this until its out on XVID :]

  • May 16, 2006, 5:24 p.m. CST

    If you didn't realize that you were reading the spoiler

    by PurityOfEssence

    section by about the second paragraph after the nonspoiler paragraph then you should have really paid more attention.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:28 p.m. CST

    The important question - does Mr.T appear?

    by DavidCamp

    Well, does he?

  • May 16, 2006, 5:30 p.m. CST

    COUNT ME IN!!

    by IamNumber1

    They could make rocky 10,000. If he wins, I'll see it. And like I said before, if you don't like rocky and don't like stallone, STAY THE FUCK HOME OR GO SEE SOMETHING ELSE!! It's gonna be me and a bunch of other fans cheering rocky! rocky! ROCKY!! In the theater and I wouldn't have it any other way.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:31 p.m. CST

    The fight lasts until the final round????

    by Vim Fuego

    I didn't see that coming.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    by Darth Hidious

    Fuck All you miserable fuckwits who are slating stallone and this movie!! Its gonna ROCK and ya know it!!!

  • May 16, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    "yo adrian we did it"..Did what exactly?

    by Sworn42Enemy

    Mason Dixon doesn't sound like such a great opponent. He sounds pretty generic. If he is going to come out of retirement it should be for a really great villain. Like Apollo Creed's ghost, or Osama Bin Laden.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Multiple Endings

    by Ender's Jeesh

    I worked on the film for 4 1/2 weeks in Philly, and I can confirm, from this review, that there were indeed multiple endings shot. I have no idea which they're going to use, these test screenings will probably go a long way in determining that. But having been on-set for most of the Paulie/ Rocky stuff, I can tell you both performances are excellent to great. Movie will be shockingly good when fine-tuned and released in Nov. Been saying that since Feb.

  • May 16, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Uh, yeah Hail...

    by Amazing Inframan

    That big red SPOILER flag around the article title on the front page, and the big red "!!!BEWARE HEAVY SPOILERS!!!" warning immediately above the article were probably pretty good tip offs, too!

  • May 16, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Nice fucking try but those were added AFTER,....

    by axelfoley

    I said something about there not being a spoiler warning. You and Hail don't know what you're talking about and I know what's going on here.

  • May 16, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    About the ending

    by performingmonkey

    If everyone wrote that they didn't like the fact that Rocky lost the fight they'll probably change it to him winning by split decision, but it'll probably seem to Rocko like a bittersweet victory with Adrian not being there.

  • May 16, 2006, 6:19 p.m. CST

    The theme of Rocky is not Gonna Fly Now

    by IMMORTAL-1

    The theme to Rocky is about proving something to yourself and how you want people to remember you. "It really don't matter if I lose this fight. It really don't matter if this guy opens my head, either. 'Cause all I wanna do is go the distance. No one's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standing, I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood." Even earlier when he has that talk with Marie. "Yo, a bad reputation -- Twenty years from now people will say D'you remember Marie?' 'No, who was she?' 'She was that little whore who hung out at the Atomic Hoagie Shop.' 'Oh, now I remember!'... See, they don't remember you, they remember the rep." He's talking about himself just as much as he is about her. For him to come back to this theme would bring things full circle. It would be natural for him to be upset for people to remember him as a statistoc for his boxing record and not what he accomplished as a person. They in fact don't remember that he went the distance, rather that he lost. He would feel the need to drive the point home again the only way he knows how, through boxing. What would be nice is if Rocky were to realize his legacy was his impact and influence on others. There are so many surrounding characters we could see that in: his son, surviving members of Apollo and Mick's families or maybe even some redemption for Tommy Gunn. Ultimately what will determine what kind of movie this will be is going to be the message. If the message is that you can still do great things when you're old it's not going to cut it.

  • May 16, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Isn't Stallone >60?

    by veritasses

    And wasn't Rocky supposed to have some sort of brain problem as a result of too many blows to the noggen? The movie should've been Rocky vs Abe Vigoda. THAT would've been a close fight.

  • May 16, 2006, 6:56 p.m. CST

    demolition man 2

    by reckni

    Seriously, bring back John Spartan and create a Simon Phoenix clone. See you at Taco Bell.

  • May 16, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    What? No Stu Nahan?

    by Doc_Strange

    It's not a Rocky movie without ol' Stu.

  • May 16, 2006, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Stallone and Burt Young do a phenomenal acting job

    by Heywood Jablowme

    THAT is freaking hilarious. Because I always thought that Burt Young was robbed for best supporting for his role in Back to School. And the words "Stallone" and "phenomenal acting" don't exactly go together unless you're talking about...that's right, you guessed it, Frank Stallone. Thank you Norm MacDonald. Good night, now!

  • May 16, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST

    sounds good

    by stvnhthr

    Most early cuts do run long, they throw everything they can into them and see what resinates with the audience. I'm guessing that Rocky wins the fight in the final version, and the early version has him lose because of rumors and sites like AICN

  • May 16, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    ABKing, where are you?

    by masheen81

  • May 16, 2006, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Tony M...Ender's

    by UncleEthan

    Enders, If you worked on the film, which I'm not questioning- does a guy named Tony Munafo still work for Sly?

  • May 16, 2006, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Sly's Age

    by UncleEthan

    Sly will be 60 in June.

  • May 16, 2006, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Rock 6...Direct. To. Video.

    by Orbots Commander

    Then again, that wouldn't be a first for Stallone. Anybody remember ICU? Didn't think so.

  • May 16, 2006, 8:40 p.m. CST

    i hope rocky

    by isildur29

    beats the shit out of hillary swank as a training exercise

  • May 16, 2006, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Where the fuck is Thunderlips?!

    by Uncle Stan

  • May 16, 2006, 8:58 p.m. CST

    by Be like water

    Because no one else has... ROCKY BALBOA is going to OWN all your asses come December!! [unless Singer, Spacey and Routh do it first...]

  • May 16, 2006, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Merrick, please stop with the quips.

    by The Pusher

    They're not funny at all. It's like you're trying to mimic the SomethingAwful guys. And it's not working.

  • May 16, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    Sounds like they're leaving room for potential sequels.

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    Rocky loses close split decision in this one and comes back to win the rematch in "Rocky Balboa: Rematch" in 2008. Personally, I think they should make a Diggstown 2 and have Rocky fight Honey Roy Palmer in a seniors bought with James Woods and Bruce Dern trying to rig the fight.

  • May 17, 2006, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Rocky will win

    by moto

    Both the movie, and the Rocky character will win. Shot at a mere $25 million, look for at least $100 million as long as a better and more mainstream trailer comes out. People want to see this movie. It's iconic. And if they see that it is not another Rocky V, they'll be there in line. Also, work at Sony. Film tracked pretty much as seen above. Big cuts to come. Rumored reshoots. And Rocky will win. Multiple endings were shot. Death scene. Losing. Winning. And yes, Stallone acts the shit out of this movie. Impressed.

  • May 17, 2006, 4:08 a.m. CST

    losing

    by Northerner82

    if rocky didnt come to vegas to lose, then he shouldn't. in the first movie, his goal was to "go the distance" and prove he wasn't a bum creed beating him didn't matter because he achieved his goal! so him losing now will work IF there is a lot of emphasis on "he'll never go the distance, he's too old" etc, in which case he will be silencing his critics just by finishing the fight.

  • May 17, 2006, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Wow, that wasn't a review

    by thatpeterguy

    He just told us the entire movie. Spoiler warning or not I wasm't expecting him to tell me the ENTIRE ending. Usually, you get plot points etc. but never the ending. But he did make great comments on how the movie should work so good job.

  • May 17, 2006, 4:25 a.m. CST

    by Stollentroll

    "This is the best scene in the movie, really great acting by both and very moving" - are you kidding? Sounds like George Lucas wrote the screenplay.

  • May 17, 2006, 7:21 a.m. CST

    non spoiler summary?

    by minderbinder

    Didn't look like it.

  • May 17, 2006, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Jared-Syn...

    by Wee Willie

    Now there's a name I haven't heard since...

  • May 17, 2006, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Well Rocky V was great, so this will be spectacular!

    by Sith Witch

  • May 17, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Rocky VII: The Angry Colostomy Bag...

    by hipcheck13

    ...meanwhile, watch Rambo fight terrorists for "firsts" on the blue handicapped parking spot in front of Denny's.

  • May 17, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Wee Will

    by UncleEthan

    ...since the "Wonderful World of Disney".

  • May 17, 2006, 4:30 p.m. CST

    The best thing EVER about Rocky!!

    by pd18

    I had a fight with an Italian dude right around the time Rocky came out. Italians... White people, period, y'all go crazy after y'all see a Rocky movie because y'all believe that shit. Because the movies are so emotional and so real, you sit there and go like,"Hey, this is real." And Stallone have y'all white people pumped, especially Italians. After Italians see Rocky, they come out the movie theater, they be like... Italians are funny people, because they act like n*%$#*s. It's funny. They do. They hold their dick more than us. They be standing around, "Get the fuck out of here. It's right here, all right? What? Hey, fuck you, all right?" Everything is a question too. "Hey, what am I, an asshole? "What am I, a fucking jerk? Get the fuck out of here. "It's right here, all right?" After they see Rocky, they come out of the theater charged. They be like, "All right, Rock-O! All right, Sly! All right, Rock-O! Rock-O!". Go up to the people standing on line and shit. "Hey, paisan, you going in to see Rocky right now?" "Yeah. It's a great fucking movie. It's great. You gonna like this. When Sly comes out, he breaks this big fucking n%#*@r's face. He busts it fucking wide open. Fucking melanzane laying on the floor, fucked up. It's fucking great. I fucking love it, man. All right, Rock-O! At the end of this picture, now, just between you and I, I don't wanna ruin the surprise, but Sly wins this one again. You know what I like about Stallone's movies? The realism. Because that's the way you gotta treat those fucking moolies. They think they can fucking push you around, 'Oh, you big hotshot, get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of my face with that shit. That's what I like about Sly. He goes in and the moolies are beating him and he don't fucking go down, he comes in and he cracks the fucking moolie's hole like this. He falls on the ground. You know, you can really fucking do that. You see that fucking big melanzane standing over there? See that black guy over there at the line getting candy?" Yeah." "All right. Now, he's about". I'm, I ain't no big guy, all right? But I'm Italian. Watch this. You watch this, all right? Hey, excuse me, brother. Hey, let me have a box of Juji Fruits... and let me have some Bon Bons... I think I'll have some Bon Bons there... And let me have some Junior Mints.... And give me another box of Juji Fruits... And the n*%#@r's gonna pay for it.". "Excuse me?". "You heard what I said, moolie. Pay for my fucking candy...or I'll kick your ass.". "Oh, you just saw Rocky. Look, little Italian white man. I enjoy Sylvester Stallone's movies too. But I'm waiting to get some candy and I'm gonna go see a movie. Why don't you just go hop in your IROC Z - and take your ass home.". "I'll kick your fucking ass.". Then they hear that Rocky music. Hour later: "He's not gonna make it. The big n*#$@r named Abdullah's hand wrapped around his throat... And a box of Juji Fruits rammed up his ass. He's not gonna make it. He's fucked up." That's who I had a fight with. An Italian. Those are the worst white people to fight, especially around Rocky time. -Eddie Murphy

  • May 17, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    pd18

    by UncleEthan

    I heard that same bit youjust wrote from some third rate hack comedian years ago. Seriously, you sound like anobviously white kid trying to come off as "black". This is not only lame, but it is actually insulting toreal black people. I remember now where I heard your little bit. It was that Jewish cat on the old Stern show who tried to act like a "chitlin' circuit" commedian. 40 Fienberg orsomething. Really. You might not have mean it to be, but the quote above is incredibly racist...but not to Italians. To blacks. I will, however, assume that you are fairly ignorant and didn't really understand that when youposted it. Wait...didn't Eddie Murphy do a Rocky bit in his film "Raw"?

  • May 17, 2006, 5:11 p.m. CST

    MeaCulpa

    by UncleEthan

    Ok...now I read the whole bit. I was bored and felt like hammering some weak material...sorry pd...you know, though. Reading it again proves that Murphy is better at delivering material than writing it.

  • May 17, 2006, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah..

    by UncleEthan

    It's funny you used the Murphy quote because I know that he and Sly hated one another...or was it Sly that just hated him. Either way. It was from a projectionist that worked for folks in Miami, including Sly and Murphy, that Murphy was into chicks with dicks. I heard this pitiful tale in 1994. When I heard the story I blew it off as just some of the wacky rumors you here from people who work around and for celebrities. Then I heard about Eddie picking up a trannie two years later or so. When I worked in the film industry I heard stuff I thought was bullshit, but that one turned out to be true. I also heard that Marlon Brando used to lay under a glass coffe table coked out of his mind while Harry Belefonte would shit above. That Brando and Belefonte would have a bizzare sexual relationship is strange enough...but the whole defication thing really threw me. I chalked that one up to BS, but you never know.

  • May 17, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST

    will never be another Mr T movie...

    by zathras34

    Cmon Balboa....then rocky..."Aint so bad !!aint so bad!!!...cmon you aint so bad...!!you aint nothin!!

  • May 18, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Pullet a bullet in Balboa already...

    by Roguewriter

    Yo, Adrian, the franchise stopped being good after ROCKY III. And even that one was only good because they turned it into a zany cartoon, the purest cinematic distillation of the 80s. Stallone himself hasn't been relevant since COP LAND. Hang it up.

  • May 18, 2006, 2 p.m. CST

    UncleEthan's panties in a knot!!

    by pd18

    How DARE you chastise me, I happen to be a black Jew from Italy, so I think I know a thing ar two about... wait I just read your WHOLE post, so now I forgive you... UncleEthan, I really think you should read things in full BEFORE you get your panties in a knot, but at least your man enough to admit it. Seriously though, ever since I saw that Eddie Murphy skit, I've never been able to see a Rocky movie without thinking "Little Italian man, you just saw Rocky...". Love it.