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Published at:  Oct 20, 1998 12:02:35 AM CDT

Here’s a new spy that works at one of the 1.2 billion licensees that is working on the
Star Wars Prequels toy line or fast food line or clothes line or candy line or model kit line
or well I don’t really need to go on listing the potential clients this spy could be working
for. But suffice to say, Patch is working. Patch is not a very high up spy, as a result,
Patch’s eyes and hands fondled the designs in a short one to two hour period in the last 2
months. (Yes, I’ve been sitting on this for a while to provide cover) I’ve gone through
and fact checked many items below. As a result, there is nothing below that will lead you
off the path. The naysayers can bellyache all they want, but this is true fact. As a result
there are quite a few little spoilers here and there. Designs described, scenes mentioned,
origin of a character or two. So don’t read if ya don’t want to know. Here you go....

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O.K., here goes, As my heart skipped a beat I fingered through lots of
designs, and I mean lots. Tons of licensee stuff, so it might of been a bit "smoothed out"
and cartoony, but it was pure gold cause it was only officialy approved designs that can't
be altered by any artists. Here are some tidbits. May be spoiler stuff so you might want to
warn.


Darth Maul- Very nasty looking. Lots of horns and very bumpy facial
texture. Looked like freakin satan, really. Any fan art, descriptions or pictures
had held him somewhat akin to a human looking character with red skin texture
and small horns, but that's not what I saw. This guy looked mean, and more
creatur-esque. Kinda reminded me of Spikor from the old He-man shtuff. If
you can remember that, try and get a picture the face was VERY similar. Fire
in his eyes too! This guy is gonna be cool.

Qui Gon/Obi wan- I saw a picture on the Force.
net
from the back of the "spirit of the force" action figures, and it gave me a chill. It
really made me realize that this was gonna be Star Wars again on the big screen, HELL
yeah! If you have not already gotten the jist of their costumes, they have that very classy,
regal, two- tone color look. Obi wan's got the little braid on the side. I was quite amazed
at how much the drawings of Ewan gave me the feel of Alec Guinnes's Obi wan persona.
I saw a picture of them with Yoda only briefly and he had on a dark brown smock with
short sleeves.

C3p0- Every picture of him in the stuff I saw, even T-shirts that just had
his name and face, he was real trashed. Not put together at all. Not really
see through, but more in the sense of only somewhat put together. Actually, he
looked like a zombified droid, parts kinda rotted away, at least half of his
face this way. This would definitely click with some of what I've heard
about him being found in a junk pile by either Anakin or Qui-gon.

(HARRY NOTE: He is not found in a junk pile by either Anakin or Qui-Gon. He is
Anakin’s pet project. A protocal droid to help his mother with her work.)

Jar Jar- Oh, yeah, the jig is up. Let me start out by saying that I am a
full Lucas supportor, I loved his first three films, I can't think of any
reason I wont like the new ones. I didn't like the Ewoks though, but that's
not what it's about, it's about making you feel like they could exist simply
because he wanted it that way. And anyone who thinks I'm spouting
sugar-fairy s#&+ can kiss it, cause you're just lookin for something to say, beeattch!
That said, I have alot of faith in the Jar Jar character. If animated more
realistically than Jabba looked in the Special Edition, then this is gonna
be a cool character. Imagine Chewbacca, but instead of lookin like a guy in a
gorilla suit, it will be a fully articulate, out of this world freak! Hell
yeah! I have nothing to go on for that but my own intutition, but like I
said, I have faith in the man that helped develop the most influential SPFX
studio in existance. That said, the Jar Jar designs were very much what was
up the other day, the Chiang sketch. If any one remembers the Amanaman
headhunter character that was seen in Jabba's palace in Jedi, Jar Jar
resembles him VERY much. Similar colors even. Leaf green, light brown,
lots of orange. The face is almost duck billed, and reminded me of a dinosaur in
that vein. His expressions are very animated. The dreds are long, but not
thin like Predator, but thick, and smaller in number like a bunch of
carrots. No beard in these designs. Give this guy a somewhat Jamaican accent like
I've heard, and I think he is going to make a real nice piece of eye candy.

(HARRY NOTE: Jar Jar does indeed have a bit of a Jamacian accent, but mix it
with Italian. For example here’s one line he says that I remember: “Dis time, wesa die’n,
hey?”

Ships and Droids-Only saw the droids breifly, but they looked very cool.
Lots of similar stuff to what we've seen, battle droids with the guns and the
ones with the dredds. Afew other new ones, all very sleek and cool looking.
Some had pictures of them interacting with r2 and 3po, so I was led to believe
that maybe these were "good" droids of some sort..

The ships look awesome! I've heard that there are limited space scenes, but I would
love to just see five minutes of some of this stuff.

(HARRY NOTE: There really isn’t a tremendous amount of Space activity, there is
some, he’ll get more than his five minutes worth)

I saw that circular Gungan ships (I think that what they were). A ball in the center of a
C is what they look like. A C on it's side.

(HARRY NOTE: The above ship design is the FEDERATION BATTLESHIP and
not a vehicle that the Gungan’s ever use.)

The Naboo ships are awesome. Sleek looking with the ponty front, they look
awesome in fleets. There was also some sort of federation ship that I only saw breifly. I
don't remember too many details but they kinda reminded me of romulan warbirds. Yeah,
definetely Romulan ships, sort of.

(HARRY NOTE: Of all the designs I’ve seen, this last one, Romulan Warbird, has
never shown up. Of course most of the designs I saw were circa March and July, so
technically they could have been changed. This may be the Federation Star Fighter. I
don’t know)


Anakin in Pod Race-This stuff was shockingly cool. Lots of pictures with
Anakin in a helmet, right off the bat reminded me of Luke in the X-wing.
Subulba's Face was a pretty normal looking alien with a long upside down V-
like mouth and small nostrils. He had the complexion of the "visitor"
aliens and reminded me of them a little. He is wearing a flying helmet that looks
like german WWII stuff, only the goggles are spaced far almost on the side
of the face, to cover the eyes. A few pictures were "in action". If any of
you have any of the star wars universe cards that Topps published over the last
few years, you might remember the ones that had comic book artists doing
interpretations of there favorite SW elements and unseen stuff. There was
a painted card that had Luke and maybe Biggs piloting T-16's through beggers
canyon. Not the one with the womp rats, but the one where luke is
navigating through the canyon banking into the sides of it. There was a shot of the
race, a perspective shot of the front of Anakin's pod that looked alot like
this. Also, and this I thought was really cool, One picture had Anakin in
his Pod in an encounter with a bunch of Tuskin Raiders, Bantha's and all.

(HARRY NOTE: This last bit about Anakin in his pod in an encounter with a bunch
of Banthas, etc... Well, that’s not in the script. However, it’s nothing to fret over, the
pod race will be one of the most incredible scenes put to film. Very very action packed,
and should make that sequence between Will Smith and the ID4 alien in the canyons look
a bit amateurish)

Well that's it, hope this stuff gets you guys excited, I know it got me
going.

Call me Patch



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    Readers Talkback

  • Oct 20, 1998 12:20:55 AM CDT

    Here we go again

    by jc

    And here starts an other long line of idiot comments.........

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  • Oct 20, 1998 12:21:00 AM CDT

    Tusken Raiders

    by tim

    There's a photo in the new SW Insider of the crew shooting a scene of a Tusken Raider firing his rifle from a rock. Perhaps there's not a whole scene devoted to a Tusken attack, but a shot or two of them sniping at the passing pods...? (Second unit inserts, not necessarily scripted.)

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  • Oct 20, 1998 12:37:28 AM CDT

    Star Wars stuff

    by gag halfrunt

    Nice to get a word in before the idiots start sending abuse...some pretty cool new stuff here. Not sure about the idea of having hardly any space battles in it, it IS Star Wars after all, so space scenes, in my opinion, should comprise a large segment of the film. Oh well. I'm starting to warm to the idea of Jar Jar - if he can be done realistically. The post said he's more realistic than Jabba in the special editions, but, I'm afraid that's not saying much. The CGI'd Jabba looked crap (infact, all the CGI creatures in the Special Editions looked crap) so they'd better do a good job if they want Jar Jar to be a character and not an embarassing distraction. By the way, according to force.net, Qiu Gon is Anakin's father, and Obi Wan is Anakins uncle. Is this true. Because I think that they're overcomplicating things by making everybody related. It just stretches credibilty a bit. Well, that's my 2 pence.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:28:14 AM CDT

    put on your best hero trousers!

    by chris


    I can`t wait, I really don`t think I can wait, I don`t care if the kid supposedly can`t act, I don`t care if the Special effects don`t look soooo real (and believe me, I am in the business to notice these things (just how DID they get away with those baby godzillas running an inch above the ground through Madison Square Gardens, and as for the way they only broke SOME of the light sources - you get my drift)
    I just wanna see this film.

    George Lucas IS THE MAN.

    he knows how to make a film that just does it all.

    I can tell I`m gonna need to take extra underwear into the cinema.

    Have faith in the man, everything is gonna be soo cool, childhood here I come, Mum, I think I can fewel the force again.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:28:21 AM CDT

    put on your best hero trousers!

    by chris


    I can`t wait, I really don`t think I can wait, I don`t care if the kid supposedly can`t act, I don`t care if the Special effects don`t look soooo real (and believe me, I am in the business to notice these things (just how DID they get away with those baby godzillas running an inch above the ground through Madison Square Gardens, and as for the way they only broke SOME of the light sources - you get my drift)
    I just wanna see this film.

    George Lucas IS THE MAN.

    he knows how to make a film that just does it all.

    I can tell I`m gonna need to take extra underwear into the cinema.

    Have faith in the man, everything is gonna be soo cool, childhood here I come, Mum, I think I can feel the force again.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:38:29 AM CDT

    harry is lying!!!

    by andus

    Harry said he has been sitting on this "Patch"'s report for a couple months...but in the quoted part of his report he mentions the JarJar sketch that was up the other day...either Harry just got this very recently...or he made it up himself...either way he's a lying...and doing a very poor job of it. I just want to ad that I am not a Harry basher...I greatly enjoy his sight (and yes I am aware it is HIS sight, to do with as he pleases) and really hate to be grouped in with all the people arguing around here...BUT this is a legitimate gripe, if we're to believe what Harry posts than I think we need a legitimate reason for this 'fib'. How about it Harry?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:28:20 AM CDT

    rastas in space?

    by dread

    i can't say until i see, but doesn't dreadlocked & jamaican seem a little close to home for something in a galaxy far, far away? am i missing something?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:52:17 AM CDT

    Holiday Special & Ackbar and Jeff

    by jhett darklighter

    Wow! All this time and no bashing? Amazing. I, too, noticed the reference to yesterdays Chiang pic, but maybe Harry just gave the guy the go-ahead to send the report yesterday or today. Harry does do a lot of double checking on some information. The Holdiay Special wookiees were very finely done. (Yes, the show sucked, but it WAS Star Wars on TV.) While the pic theForce.Net has up of the Wookiee senator kind of looks like Chewie's wife, I don't believe it resembles her enough to say that it's a fake. Anybody check where those pics came from? Sir Steve's Guide, and he got them direct from Kenner. Real deal, folks. Yes, way back when, Lucas mentioned in a Rolling Stone interview that he had laid the groundwork for both a prequel and sequel trilogy. Recently he has been quoted as saying he never envisioned the films being more than six episodes. Personally, I think he is just covering his ass in case he burns out again. Remember, after Jedi, he said that he would never do another Star Wars film again. Plus, Mark Hamill has stated that he is under contract to play "the Obi-Wan of the next series, passing the sword on to a new generation." Sequels? Who knows. No burn out and really big box office receipts for the prequel trilogy will decide.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 4:15:26 AM CDT

    relax you nerds

    by patch

    Everything in this report is true. Harry is not "patch". I know because I am and I saw it. Harry may have been sitting on it, but when I E-mailed him this story, extremely excited, I might add, He must have read my enthusiasm and decided to let it go. Those with faith can wait with as much patience as can be mustered. You naysaying foolios can wait till May when you'll be eating tons of your own feet. Later.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 4:17:31 AM CDT

    Here we go...

    by yodaeater

    That took longer than usual...

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  • Oct 20, 1998 4:54:15 AM CDT

    SEQUEL TRILOGY?

    by salamander

    I have been a fan sinc eway back when like every one else and although I look to see the new info on SW be-it good or bad I'm looking forawrd to it anyhow, if anything to relive me-olde-youth!

    I have to say I have myself seen something regarding Lucas having parts 7-9 penned out, but lets face it if he ever did it (depending how good this new trilogy is - we all see it anyhow right?) how long would it be until we find out whats happening out there in SW galaxy, there's enough books on it such as Timothy Zahn's admiral Thrawn/Daala etc

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:00:32 AM CDT

    Harry's Script

    by nick j

    Hey Harry,

    Any chance of you publishing your copy of the script on the Web, or distributing by email?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 6:49:32 AM CDT

    For you who think he's lying

    by count zero

    Even if the report is Harry just lying his ass off (which I don't believe), don't you think that he could come up with more detailed lying? This report is remedial at best. My two-year old neice could probably get more information and describe it better. (no offense, Patch). Harry is much more descriptive when he writes. And even if he was just trying to get a rise out of you, it worked. Stop posting the same bitching over and over in every post. Just read the info and go back to the pathetic little world you live in.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 7:03:28 AM CDT

    Okay you caught me.....

    by harry

    I'm sorry, people. You caught me....your all much too intelligent for me! I'll just shut down my stupid little site, and keep my big lying mouth shut. Nobody with a LIFE cares about what's gonna be in the movie anyhow. Your all a bunch of whiny nerds. I'm bigger than YOU!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 7:16:35 AM CDT

    3 PO

    by tamba tlandu

    I hope you guys are wrong about what you are saying about 3po-
    If Anakin builds him..reconstructs him......THAT WOULD SUCK AND IT WOULD NOT FIT WITH THE KNOWN TRILOGY.......3po is a protocol droid...he belongs in coruscant...with the senators...or with the queen in Naboo...NOT Tantoeen (sorry for the spelling). Besides, ONLY r2 has been in Tantoeen....that explains why he knew his way around in episode 4....WHAT DID 3po say? "WHAT A DESOLATE PLACE THIS IS"...Hmmmmm...nice thing to say about a place you've ALREADY been to..........

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  • Oct 20, 1998 7:25:08 AM CDT

    "Spirit" Figure Pictures

    by jedi

    The "Spirit" figure picture that was mentioned above originated from www.sirstevesguide.com. This page shows new pictures from Episode I from the backs of the toy figures cards. There are about 5 new shots not seen anywhere else. Very cool!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 7:36:54 AM CDT

    Happy Life Day!

    by mulch

    Actually, Harry does read these, I got an email from him one day regarding a post I made. I gues I just rock. About the Star Wars Holiday Special, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one thinks that the Wookie posted on other sites looked a lot like Chewie's kid. The Holiday Special is just bad. I believe in the vision of George Lucas, but he must of been smoking crack the he wrote that piec of shit. I don't know what made it so bad. I guess it was the 1 hour and 40 minutes of nothing but Wookie grunts, and Princess Leia singing. That was bad. In it's two hour running time, there were two cool things: the commercial for National Lampoon's Animal House (about 70 minutes into it, i think) and the part in Chewie's home where han fights the Stormtrooper (about 100 minutes into it). That's it. The rest is just PAINFUL!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 7:39:32 AM CDT

    Where's the love?

    by kermit

    Am I the only person on this planet who A) thinks this movie is going to kick ass, and B) doesn't give two bird droppings if the spy's name is 'Patch' or if it's Harry or if it's Eric f***king Estrada! The info is SO cool! That line of Jar Jar's just about brought tears to my eyes and renewed my faith in this movie (not that I was ever short on any). But, I do feel weird about the 'C-3P0 built by Anakin' thing. Maybe he gets a memory wipe in Episode 2 or something. Any-hoo, Harry, this is the greatest site on the web because of the news you bring and the fact that I can do what I'm doing right now, and that you allow a lot of smelly sci-fi geeks like me say whatever they want about YOU on YOUR OWN SITE! He didn't have to do this, gang. Don't forget that!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 8:34:04 AM CDT

    Tamba

    by frank rizzo

    Hey Tamba, why would it suck for Annakin to build C3PO? Yes, we all know he is a protocol droid. But why does that mean he must be on Coruscant? Is Coruscant the only planet with protocol droids? How do we know he wasn't built as a protocol droid, but then later discarded in a junkyard and then rebuilt by Annakin--who is described as having a talent for anything mechanical? Is Detroit the only place a person could find a junkyard full of American cars? And maybe he doesn't remember Tatooine because he got his memory wiped, or maybe he's never been there before ANH...maybe Annakin finds him on a junk pile on a different planet... personally, I think that Lucas never wrote a droid / Vader encounter for a reason ....just a thought.........

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  • Oct 20, 1998 8:50:09 AM CDT

    Boy Toys ;-)

    by 4elyse

    One British periodical pointed out that the Obi-Wan dolls are probably going to be even more popular with young women than with children. If the same phenomenon were to take place in America, I would not at all be surprised.

    Let's just hope they make enough to keep up with the demand--if that Brit mag is correct on its prediction.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 9:01:56 AM CDT

    memory wipes in order to keep the logic intact

    by sebulba the nonhutt

    damn that would be so pathetic, ewoky and whatnot if C-3P0 had a memory wipe. That'd be so easy. Like 'hey, we can't think of a decent way to introduce that character into the story from what we already know, why not just say he got a *memory wipe* ?'
    You could do that with some stupid anal-retentive fucking bastardizated Trekkies, but not in a proper movie. OK we have a problem telling this and that, why not just clone the person, let the original die, and the clone can start from scratch ?
    That'd be to fucking fan-ficy.
    Only untalented wanna-be writers like most of those fan-fickers are would do that. But not our ole bisexual friend George Lucas.

    harry your site stinks. Maybe it's your bodily odor comin thru the wires already.

    To FRANK RIZZO: I bust your fucking mouth loose, you bastard ! Don't give those little shitbreeders, I gotta have the good stuff!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 9:15:39 AM CDT

    Jar-Jar's Linguistics

    by aykroyd

    I was reading that bit about the accent that Jar-Jar is going to have. I believe Harry said something like "Jamaican mixed with some Italian." I read what he wrote and could see what he meant. Then I said the phrase out loud. I don't think you quite captured the feel of the voice, Harry. It looks almost like Cajun Creole, to be honest. Try the accent with those words. It just fits perfectly... Personally, I think that would be pretty damned cool! And Harry, you know that I still have faith in you and disagree with all of these pre-pubescent people insistant on slamming you because of a single mis-phrasing or a mis-understood meaning. Whiny little brats...

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  • Oct 20, 1998 9:45:24 AM CDT

    Sebulba

    by tamba tlandu

    I'm glad somebody thinks that
    3po getting a memory wipe is supid....something you might see in Trek (thanks Sebulba).....they DID mention memory erasing in A new Hope...but......FUCK THAT....I still think it would suck.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 10:23:27 AM CDT

    C3PO: Anakin's project?

    by vertigo

    If C3PO were, indeed, Anakin's pet project, memory wipes would have to be rampant for it to mesh with the middle trilogy. Some of the ranting here has been about a "memory wipe" of C3PO, but what about "Darth Vader's" memory? I can't recall if Vader ever actually saw C3PO in the Star Wars trilogy (possibly during Vader's fight with Obi-Wan), but he sure never paid any special attention to him, either. Hardly the type of reaction for the "favorite plastic model project" of one's youth.

    Anybody out there know particulars of Vader seeing/not reacting to C3PO?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 10:46:48 AM CDT

    Harry is lying???

    by norman bates

    Without taking sides or being immature, I'd just like to ask the "naysayers:" If Harry is lying, we'll all find out next May. So he would be shooting himself in the foot in the long run. Why would the evil-fascist-censorship Harry do that?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 10:52:20 AM CDT

    That Wookie's Got My Toy Robot!

    by darth tater

    Only time I could think of offhand when 3PO and Darth were in the same room was when he was strapped to the Wookie's back in the Carbomite freezing chamber. Darth obviously had looked at Chewbacca, because he told Lando to put the princess and the wookie on his shuttle. In ROTJ, the closest he got, I think, was when the shuttle Tydirian zipped by Death Star Mark II. I agree that having Anakin screw together 3PIO on Tatooine was a completely goofy idea, as it doesn't match up with what's known about him in Ep.4-6. Oh well, 3PIO also said he wasn't good at telling stories in ANH but he was telling the Ewoks stories with sound effects and hand gestures in ROTJ. Go figure. Harry stay the hell away from the sixth row at the premiere. That's MY spot.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 10:58:02 AM CDT

    a character i know exhists in this film that nobody has mentione

    by zamboni-os

    there is the case of Darth Ng. He is about 9 feet tall from the picture i was sent and i read him in the script. why hasnt he been mentioned? Darth Ng, never speaks as he has no mouth but later on in the script when his robe is thrown off you learn that he is indeed a large light-saber.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 11:13:15 AM CDT

    Memory wipes

    by katarn

    WTF is up with all of you idiots bitchin about memory wipes!?!? What is a droid? A machine. A computer. Computers have on/off switches and it's very easy to erase crap on 'em. So wtf is wrong with a droid memory wipe? You people make me sick with your constant whining and complaining about stupid insignificant things like that. You act like if C-3PO gets a memory wipe it'll freakin ruin the entire trilogy and the storyline won't fit and everything will suck. George Lucas is working on this, people. The whole freakin story came from his head! He wouldn't do anything to ruin the flow or to make things not fit seeing as Lucasfilm is strict about what authors write in the SW novels so that it doesn't screw with the flow of his vision and contradict other things! RELAX! Come May '99 we'll see what Mr. Lucas has up his sleeves.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 12:20:18 PM CDT

    E Chunta

    by darth tater

    Obi Wan *never* owned a droid before ANH, per Obi Wan. R2D2, apparently was owned by the Skywalkers on Tattooine (what the hell they needed with an astromech is beyond me) and later he wound up in the back seat of a Naboo N-1 fighter. It's logical to assume R2D2 wound up in Padme's service, and somehow 3PO winds up in her court, too. Now, maybe you haven't gotten the twinkies unjammed from your non-SE tapes, but if you pop in ANH you'll listen and learn that, per 3PO, "our last master was Captain Antilles" -- that's Wedge Antilles' dad, per the radio version of ANH. What can we deduce from this? Okay, Wedge's dad is to Leia what Panaka is to Padme: a bodyguard and right-hand fix-it guy. Panaka is from Naboo, so assume that some time in Ep. 2 or 3, the royal family must move from Naboo to Alderaan. So somehow in the 30-odd-year timeframe of the prequel trilogy, R2D2 and 3PO come into the service of Captain Antilles. Not a difficult concept if you put R2D2 working in the Naboo Air Force under Panaka. As to 3PO, well he's serving in the Naboo royal court while young Anakin is boning the princess. Hard to understand? Go ask your mommy.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 12:43:41 PM CDT

    Best post by Harry in a while...

    by greg

    To be blunt, thie site has pretty well stunk since the redesign (a point even Roger Ebert made in the latest issue of the Yahoo magazine)...but this is the kind of news that kept me coming back to the sight before. Please---more stories like this!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 12:51:14 PM CDT

    BASTA YA

    by pendejo

    DIOS MIO, ES REALMENTE DIFICIL DE CREER QUE LUCAS SEA AMERICANO, DESPUES DE LEER TODA LA MIERDA QUE ESCRIBEN SEBULBA Y COMPANIA, QUE MIERDA TIENEN EN EL CEREBRO, OYE TROGLO ESTOS GRINGOS SON UN POCO DE IGNORANTES, HAN VISTO SW 1000 VECES Y NO TIENEN LA MINIMA PUTA IDEA DE LO QUE SE TRATA.
    VAYANSE AL CARAJO TODOS!!!!!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 12:55:18 PM CDT

    re: holiday special

    by mrstarhead

    Does anybody know where to get a copy of the holiday special? I must be too young to remember it. when did it air?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:16:18 PM CDT

    arrrrrrgg!!!

    by tamba tlandu

    To anybody who thought
    that my comments are not worth
    considering: Fuck You.
    To pendejo:
    Estos gringos maricones no saben
    una mierda de Star Wars.
    Ojala que lo que esten diciendo
    sean mentiras para llamar la atencion...creo que voy a dejar de
    venir a este site.....gringos de
    la gran puta....el unico gringo
    que me cae bien es George Lucas......bueno, Harrison Ford tambien me cae bien.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:36:39 PM CDT

    to in the know

    by tamba tlandu

    In the Know, eres un ahuevao...........hahahahaahaha!!
    see if you can get someone to tell you what my message says, you little punk!
    El que tiene un palo metido en el culo eres tu, cuecon.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:50:08 PM CDT

    HARRY HERE: Listen to me, people!

    by harry knowles

    ahem....Hi everybody! Harry Knowles here, creator of this website. (sigh) Contrary to popular belief, I DO look at your comments. When I created this site, I wanted to be able to get feedback from the people. Not only that, I wanted visitors of this site to be able to post their responses so that others can see what they have to say. I am a firm believer in freedom of speech, but let me to you something:

    I was sitting here just going over what you guys had to say, and I got to say I'm dissapointed. Really. I thought that SW fans were smarter than that. I thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized by now what a stupid, fat, lying bastard I am...I thought that even the average web-junkie could see how obvious it is that I AM Patch. I admit it, I lied. And NO, I never saw the script. And YES, I am an asshole for pretending I did. You see, I have no life. That's why I created this piece-o'-shit site. And I happen to be a BIG SW fan, and I have a HUGE crush on GL (my fantasy is to have a threesome with George Lucas and Rick McCallum), so I wanted to post fake bullshit about the upcoming SW prequels to fill the void in my life. All I do is masturbate all day anyway...
    I'm sorry to have lied to you guys.
    PS: That guy who said that the line: "Is Wes'a gonna die?" made him cry is a real fuckin' loser. (hope I didn't lose a "fan" of my site)
    PPS: Seriously- ID4 was a big piece of shit. It was BIG, but it was shit nonetheless. If TPM isn't better than ID4, I will commit suicide.
    PPPS: Don't you think Anthony Daniels is a HOTTIE?! He can give ME an oil bath anytime.
    PPPPS: I'm single. If there is a cute guy out there that likes larger men, then e-mail me!
    PPPPPS: I hope there's a nude Obi-Wan scene! Maybe he screws Queen Amidala and Anakin in the film....
    I'm hot already!!!!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 1:55:15 PM CDT

    the Fx

    by geekie

    Hey you guys, I noticed many of you said that the Jabba and modt of the CG creatures from the SE looked animated and that there is a possibility that the same thing is going to happen to the Ep1. While I don't agree all CG were bad in SE, (I personaly think it just looked that way because the rest of the movie was so old lookin') I agree that Jabba scene was bad. BUT ! From what I heard, that scene was made, fully complete, in 1994 and there was no enhancment work after that.(I don't know why.) So I believe ILM should be able to exceed their work from Jurrasics and(don't kill me for this) the Dragonheart. Those three are ONLY movies with good CG creatures. I hope ILM is up to it, they did have several years to do their job.
    And, now something completely unrelated,but if someone can cofirm this, or better say it's not true please do. I hard a roumor that in the X-files, I don't know exactly when, it will be revealed that Scully is Mulder's sister. Please don't let his be true!!!!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:21:56 PM CDT

    THX1138

    by superninja

    The Knights Templar have evolved into what are now called the Freemasons. Pretty interesting history, though most of it is rife with legends and unconfirmed. Makes for some great fiction, though! There are lots of interesting sites on the web. The earlier post comparing the Nazis with the Empire is very interesting as well, and frankly, I feel a little stupid for not noticing it before. Guess you learn something new every day...

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:49:23 PM CDT

    Memory Wipes and Asswipes

    by corran fox horn

    Memory wipes are a standard proceedure done on almost all droids every six months. It erases all memory except what's pre-programmed in them. Remember Uncle Owen told Luke to give those "two new droids" a memory wipe in the beginning of ANH! And Harry, don't listen to these...these.. I can't say it (take a choice insult from Hallenbeck please). People like them are just waiting for shit to pop up they can use to bash you. I admit the 'Patch'thing could be suspicious, but it is possible to be explained, and I do have faith in you. Besides, WTF cares anyway?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:55:39 PM CDT

    Hitler's Empire

    by jedi junkiee

    An earlier post compared the empire with Nazi Germany. Could the Jedi purge be the Star Wars equivalent of the Haulocaust?!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:55:40 PM CDT

    Hitler's Empire

    by jedi junkiee

    An earlier post compared the empire with Nazi Germany. Could the Jedi purge be the Star Wars equivalent of the Haulocaust?!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:55:42 PM CDT

    Hitler's Empire

    by jedi junkiee

    An earlier post compared the empire with Nazi Germany. Could the Jedi purge be the Star Wars equivalent of the Haulocaust?!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 2:58:14 PM CDT

    ---> Just look at yourself <-----

    by borneo baddy

    Haha

    I visited this site the first time today, and just let me
    say one thing: You all better get a fucking life real fast instead spending your time discussing a damn movie.
    Knock Knock Knock - it's just a M O V I E !!!

    haha very amusing stuff on here

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  • Oct 20, 1998 3:26:36 PM CDT

    the C3P0 thing

    by tobydobo

    As far as Anakin building him I will have to pass. But, it is very possible that he is some sort of Protocol Prototype in EP.1. How he is connected with Anakin is beyond me, but dont you think if he was connected some way , Darth Vader may not have recognized because he had been rebuilt by the time of ANH. I mean from the previous scoops is has been said that C3P0 was not completely assembled, was missing pieces here and there and you could see through some parts.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 3:56:20 PM CDT

    Memory Wipe....

    by chris

    Look, I hate Trek as much as the next SW fan, and I agree it sorta seems like a cheap ass way to over up a plot hole, but if the put it in right, it could be very cool, I see it as maybe during the genocide of the jedi, if obiwan was still in posession of 3po, maybe he was taken out and had his memory wiped because he could have lived with the jedi and known some of the teachings. or maybe he gets captured and wiped and enslaved in the empire, either way I don't think they just do something like "I think we should have 3po's memory wiped, he's pissin me off..."
    and also, I think harry is a cool guy and you all come to his site, if you don like it don come back....

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  • Oct 20, 1998 4:05:52 PM CDT

    C3PO Mind wipe

    by watsonwil

    PURE SPECULATION:
    Wouldn't it be cool if the mind wipe explained 3po's change in personality. Lucas always said he envisioned 3po as a used car salesaman/sleazeball type. It would be cool if he was like that in the prequel, pissed somebody off, and they mind wiped him giving him the docile, prissy personality he has in episodes 4-6

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  • Oct 20, 1998 4:09:55 PM CDT

    GIMME!

    by michael wood

    All this talk about the script..having "read the script" and blah blah by Mr. Harry.>Well, my man.,.I WANT TO READ IT...God forbit you let anyone else IN on this..It won't :ruin" anyhting for be, because I am not some fired up Star Wars geek..I just want a good read...So if ANYONE has any leads as to where I can get the script..TELL me...

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  • Oct 20, 1998 4:52:08 PM CDT

    Re: Sithlord

    by tamba tlandu

    Dear Sithlord:
    I DID answer your question......harry just got rid of that dumb Trek story before you read it.......
    I do agree with you that ID4 is a piece of shit.........
    I still see we're not in the same page about ST not being science fiction....
    as I said before...it's a legend..like King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table....it happened once...a long time ago.....A FAIRY TALE........just because there is advance technology or scientific jargon Does not make it science fiction.....those are fantasy elements...if anything was explained...it was just written there so the Story itself made sense...besides....GEORGE LUCAS HIMSELF said it was fantasy. 'Nuff said.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:07:23 PM CDT

    sorry Sithlord

    by tamba tlandu

    Sorry I didn't answer the Trek part.....I don't know what you are talking about...I don't like Star Trek......I think the future would be very very very LAME if it turned out that way...the whole feel...the pacing....the explanations for every stupid thing that happens makes Star Trek suck for me.....fantasy elements within Star Trek make it suck even worse...because..THAT..my friend is a science fiction show....I'm not saying it can't be done..but I still think Star Trek sucks. Sorry if I ofend anybody out there, but this is between Sithlord and me.Let me ask YOU a question Sithlord...what do you think...Idiana Jones movies..what is THEIR category?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:23:31 PM CDT

    "The Force binds us together..."

    by superninja

    A religion can be anything based on a set of beliefs. What binds human beings together? Atoms, molecules, subatomic particles. What if the Force is the will to control these particles, affecting everything that surrounds you...affecting your very universe! We learn something new about the power of nature and of the human mind everyday. The Superstring theory would sound like science fiction 100 years ago. Star Wars, in my opinion, is a combination of science fiction *and* fantasy. Maybe Lucas is speculating that the very forces that bind us together are individual, sentient organisms? I'd say that's a very interesting and creative take on evolution.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:28:07 PM CDT

    GRINGOS IDIOTAS

    by troglo

    SARTA DE HUEVONES...ESPEREN LA PELICULA CARAJO, PARECE INCREIBLE QUE HAYA TAL CANTIDAD DE ANORMALES EN ESTADOS UNIDOS....REPITO QUE LA MAYORIA DE ESTUPPIDECES QUE SE ESCUCHAN SON FLSAS, Y POR ALGO EL SITE OFICIAL NO DICE NADA AL RESPECTO....Y CON RESPECTO AL ANIMAL DE HARRY ES MAS QUE OBVIO QUE NUNCA HA LEIDO EL SCRIPT Y REPITE TODAS LAS BABOSADAS DE LA RED.
    PENDEJO Y YO REPRESENTAMOS AL OTRO 80% DE FANS DE SW, LOS NO AMERICANOS, LOS QUE HARAN DE TPM LA PELICULA MAS TAQUILLERA DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS...PERO USTEDES HUEVONES LO UNICO QUE HACEN ES AMARGARSE LA VIDA PENSANDO EN LO MAL QUE LO VAN A PASAR VIENDO ,POSIBLEMENTE, LA MEJOR PELICULA DE SF DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS.
    GRINGOS HUEVONES

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:29:32 PM CDT

    Uh..."No Habla Espanol?"

    by superninja

    Oh, but I bet you knew that, right?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:31:51 PM CDT

    I agree with nonentity...

    by superninja

    If this were bogus, it would qualify as a modern-day War Of The Worlds. I cannot disregard the whole thing, because any intelligent propagandist would pepper the fiction with the truth. It would make the lie seem more plausible. BELIEVE THE LIE!!!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:33:58 PM CDT

    No way

    by tamba tlandu

    No way, superninja...it can't be that complicated......we can all agree that the force is a religion.....something simple...trying to explain it with atoms, quarks and other scientific jargon takes away its fantasy and the faith aspect from its believers...George is not trying to explain it scientifically...FANTASY folks...pure Fantasy....
    I believe the script is a fake.
    The movie will be far better.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:42:10 PM CDT

    Spanish Curse!

    by the number of the beast

    Ok you spansh-speaking morons. Who gives you the right to curse Americans. I understood everything you said, and you are no Satr Wars Fan. YOur spelloing in spanish sucks. How about learning to spell in your language first of all, before cursing the english-speaking.

    Where are you from, anyway? Your poor vocabulary gives you away as a south-american...

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:45:28 PM CDT

    While I agree that it takes away the faith aspect...

    by superninja

    It still could be an explanation for the supposed leaks. We won't know until the movie comes out, anyway. But I didn't think my theory was at all complicated. Everyone knows what we're made of. On another note, I wish that we could stick Harrison Ford in a time capsule and put him in the other ep's. Yummy. He was my first crush . Sorry if I'm grossing everyone out.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 5:51:21 PM CDT

    Ha...now yar fighting in languages...

    by spok

    STAR TREK rules you faggots!!!!!

    Star Wars is bull

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  • Oct 20, 1998 6:20:19 PM CDT

    What a Scoop!

    by uncle owen on a speeder bike

    This site really sucks. I check it out in the hope that there might be something of note to see, what I get most of the time is somebody rehashing what we've heard weeks ago- and passing this off as something "hot off the press".

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  • Oct 20, 1998 6:26:46 PM CDT

    Allright you jerky little fruitcakes, I'm gonna straighten a few

    by frank rizzo

    First of all, I agree--a memory wipe would be a little bit unimaginative, although it IS mentioned in ANH, I forgot that! I'm sure Lucas will explain it in a way no unimaginative fanboy ever could. Second, stop bitching about the ANH Jabba! He looks different because he is supposed to be skinnier! (I do think it was silly to let Han step on the tail of the galaxy's biggest crimelord, though.) I think Jar Jar will be a respectable character, look at Jurassic Park and Dragonheart--ILM can do realistic creatures (not silly & cartoonish) IF that is what Lucas has in mind. As for THX 1138's comments: I think you are very right. Personally I think in Ep. 2 we the audience will be rooting for characters that turn out to be bad guys in Ep.3.....just like Germans thought Hitler would be a good choice. Heck, I bet the Emperor gains power by election and popular support, rather than by using the dark side--how predictable! And also I think in Ep.3, we will see the "reformed" Republic--the early Empire--exterminating alien races, just like Nazi death camps. Maybe that is why there are no aliens in the Empire! They are only found on frontier or outlaw planets, such as Tatooine.....and hey, SPOK, the only reason Star Trek even exists as a MOVIE franchise is because Star Wars proved Sci-Fi/Fantasy could be profitable! Trekkies should thank Lucas more than anyone, without him Trek would still be some campy, forgotten TV show, a mere answer to a Trivial Pursuit question. Compared to SW, Star Trek is nothing more than a steaming pot of toilet stew......

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  • Oct 20, 1998 6:42:42 PM CDT

    Sebulba the NonHutt

    by frank rizzo

    Sebulba if I catch you looking at me sideways just once I'm gonna whack down a bottle and a half of Jack Daniels and split your nuts right off the side of your face straight back to the crack of your ass....I'm silly like that....SILLY! I eat raw meat.....I s**t vegetables! So don't be a toughguy or I'll punch your f***in' jaw LOOSE....little punk bastards like you need to be straightened out wit' a good shoe to the c**k.....ahhhh, this "talk back" s**t is startin' to get on my nerves, I got a truck to drive.....se ya' later, charlie...

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  • Oct 20, 1998 6:48:28 PM CDT

    Has any body here noticed.....

    by eric bickel

    ....that Harry looks and acts disturbingly similar to the fat comic book shop owner on the Simpsons? I swear, if he wasn't a cartoon, I'd swear he and Harry were the same person!!!

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  • Oct 20, 1998 8:38:03 PM CDT

    The Force debate

    by superninja

    I agree with you wholeheartedly! The Force is much more mystical and fun as a leap of faith. I was simply putting forth an explanation for the rumor of the micro-creatures living in veins, or whatever the heck it was. Off subject, I just read the script for Dogma, and I can't wait to see it. It sort of pushes the envelope in regards to movies that have been made about religion. Kevin Smith is a much better writer than I thought. I still hated Superman Lives, though.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 9:16:24 PM CDT

    Harry didn't lie

    by dude

    Here is what Harry said exactly-----"Patch

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  • Oct 20, 1998 9:22:27 PM CDT

    A bit of everything.

    by ikari shinji

    Start off with some simple stuff.

    1.)The CGI will be good as long as it does not resemble that stupid monkey-like thing in LinS.
    2.)Memory wipes were mentioned in the novels, therefore Lucas has officially Ok'ed them.
    3.)The idea of Antilles being a bodyguard like character for the Princess would make sense... Alderranian Royalty would probably have bodyguards, even if there planet has no weapons.
    4.)I have no problems with the force being explained... go read Lamrackian Evolutionary Thoery. It explains all forms of psycomanipulation (telepathy, telekinesis, Chi, Ki). SIDENOTE: The mitochondria in the cell resemble tiny engines or factories, yet there is no true answer as to what they do... maybe create this energy?
    5.)95% of the world believes in a deity? many in the POSSIBILTY of a deity... I have seen too much against this... the largest climbing religion (it's not counted as one, therefore never used in official demographics) is deicism or being a deist... one who believes in the possibility of god(s) yet believs that no man could ever really know.
    6.)Lucas is cool... I'm studying Film, he is one of my many inspirations (Kubrick, Tarantino, Speilburg, Hayao Miyazaki)

    This Film, even with the not so hot title, is one of two films I know I will see next year.

    STARWARS EP.1 and MONONOKE HIME (Princess Mononoke).

    Ikari.

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  • Oct 20, 1998 11:30:29 PM CDT

    Oh the agony...

    by break_windu

    Isn't this horse dead yet?

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  • Oct 20, 1998 11:55:44 PM CDT

    I found out what echutah means.

    by mononoke hime

    On cloud city C-3p0 sees a silver proticol droid and says "Oh. Nice to see a familiar face" the droid says "echutah"
    Well I'm sure we've all been loosing sleep thinking about what that might mean. I found out when I was in Japan last year. I was watching a Japanese dubed version of Empire in the hopes of learning some Japanese and the phraise echutah is dubbed into "wa cari ma sen" which means "I don't know (if it's so nice to see a farmiliar face)" Speeking of Japanese, when the droids enter Jabbas thone room a back ground voice says "Wa kari mashta ka" which means "Do you understand this?" in Japanese.

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  • Oct 21, 1998 1:21:29 AM CDT

    IF EWAN FUCKS JAKE DEAD I COULD CARELESS

    by agent gonzo

    I can't believe the stupidity of this friggin chain. Now can someone, fuck anyone, give me a logical explaination as to why the filmgoing public is turning into a bunch of seething idiots who pelt
    someone for posting a clearly bullshit wad of crap. I mean I agree with you all. It's not true. He was likely taking a shit when the crap really hit the toliet. He then sat down and created his own little SW with make-believe action figures and dount flakes. Hence the origin of
    this bullshit post. It's so clear.
    What the fuck have I been doing with my life all these years. I'm
    a loser for trusting HARRY. The
    drama you DOLTS reap is friggin
    unbelievable. Let's try this
    scenario for a few. Just for shit
    and giggles type fun. I came to
    the conclusion that, the problem is. You all lost your imaginations with your greed and pissed off anger cause no one let you into the little circle to pick up your script, screener, design, pic,
    lightsaber, whatever. This you got to see it to believe it, but then it's probubly fake stuff is amusing but exactly where did you all forget the reason he's posting and your reading? YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. He does. What is it that drives the average person that knows nothing about a subject to decide it's bullshit. I know i'm missing something cause logic just walked off the fucking map. Bottom line your all greedy sad little fucks that can't wait. The reason why your waiting and he's posting is the obvious thing here. What are we gonna go thru a withdrawl
    phase and question everything cause we didn't see it. I don't
    know HARRY. I haven't done the
    e-mail chat or otherwise with him.
    The only time I recently sent him
    a e-mail I needed him to answer, he didn't. To make it even clearer I am seriously sick of hearing, he just got off the other
    line, barely fit in the seat your sitting in, has a voice like MIKE TYSON, yap yap yap crap. So let
    it be clear now that if Harry posts a review of the (This one is for you SCOTT) "CAR 54, WHERE ARE YOU?" script by DAVID MAMET, i'm
    gonna be pissed cause I didn't get
    it. Then i'm gonna spend the next
    eon or shorter questing for it. If
    that just went over your head, you
    just proved my point. If not, hell... there is hope. I can say
    for sure that the EWAN MCGREGOR
    as JIM BOND JR thing made me roll
    over laughing my ass off but hey,
    it can't rain all the time. And one post doesn't mean shit. Harry, just out of curiosity, are you going off of the thing you let the PROF. flip thru visit before last to LA or the scrappy little 20 pg thing to verify this post? If BG talked to you recently you know why I ask. If not, I am sorry. As for the rest of you, as the most enthusiastic of us all says, "NUFF SAID." Agent Gonzo

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  • Oct 21, 1998 1:24:15 AM CDT

    For Harry Knolls

    by greg solo

    Just got home (4:28am) from having a few brews with some friends. We discussed SW and I got psyched to come home and see if anything new was going on here. This is all so anti-SW vibe that all I can say is..........the day get closer every morning my clock goes off and if I think hard enough about this upcoming event.......well....
    I get butterflies and I want to cry or talk to someone about it. Most of the people who REALLY love this universe are not responding to these negative comments because......it doesn't make any sense to us. We are happy enough in our own antisipation. Cheers.

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  • Oct 21, 1998 6:21:03 AM CDT

    harry read me the opening pages of prequel script

    by reni

    harry is telling you disbelievers the truth, so calm down and stop swearing...
    I was there when he got the script so relax, it's going to be fine...
    it reads like a star wars film, and judging by sir steve's pix of the cast, it 'looks' like a star wars film...
    so be cool.

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  • Oct 21, 1998 7:45:56 AM CDT

    Length of light sabers

    by vertigo

    Does anybody know if any light sabers in episode 1 have variable "blade" lengths (using multiple crystals)? Info posted on the official site seems to indicate it's possible. (I'm new to this, so forgive if this is old news!)

    http://www.phantommenace.com/weapons/lightsaber/

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  • dito shnito

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  • Oct 21, 1998 8:16:13 AM CDT

    Eric Bickel

    by ohbig-wang-kornholemi

    I think Harry has a fine site and all, but I must admit I laughed my ass off at Eric's comment.....
    Harry Knowles = Simpson's comic book shop clerk......
    hahahahaha

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  • Oct 21, 1998 8:29:21 AM CDT

    Vertigo

    by ohbig-wang-kornholemi

    Well, as a former Jedi knight I can assure you that my lightsaber can vary in length quite a bit.... for that matter, it varies in color, too, being that it is sort of a purple color at the end..... and I don't know anything about "multiple crystals", although I do know that when used against others, it can cause multiple.......... ummmm......oh wait, that reminds me, it can also be used as a blaster at times, although it usually takes 15 minutes or more to reload, and can't be fired more than a few times a day......

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  • Oct 21, 1998 8:50:06 AM CDT

    Samuel L. Jackson quotes

    by watsonwil

    Since Samuel L. Jackson will play "Jedi Master Mace Windu" we imagine what some of his dialogue should be:

    TOP TEN
    10. "You don't need to see my goddamn identification, 'cause these ain't the motherfuckin' droids you're looking for.
    9. "Womp rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know, 'cause even if it did I wouldn't eat the motherfucker."
    8. "This is you're father's lightsaber. When you absolutely, positively, have to kill every motherfuckin' stormtrooper in the room...accept no substitutes.
    7. "If Obi-won ain't home then I don't know what the fuck we're gonna do. I ain't got no other connections on Tattooine.
    6. "Feel the Force, Motherfucker."
    5. " What ain't no planet I ever heard of! Do they speak Bocce on What?"
    4. "You sendin' the Fett? Shit, Hutt, that's all you had to say!"
    3. "Yeah, Chewie Rocky Horror's got a hair problem. What the brother gonna do. He's a wookie."
    2. "Does Jabba the Hutt look like a bitch?"
    1. "Hand me my lightsaber. It's the one that says, 'Bad Mother Fucker'!!!"

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  • Oct 21, 1998 11:20:39 AM CDT

    The cheese alert

    by ohbig-wang-kornholemi

    Hey cheese alert, try the decaf sometime, it isn't half bad.....

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  • Oct 21, 1998 11:54:37 AM CDT

    Harry's Conspiracy

    by vertigo

    Okay, okay,-- everyone who thinks Harry's just out to deceive you all, shut up until you feel like you have some substantial confirmation, like, oh,... black helicopters or second gunmen or a bug in your phone.

    Geeeez, get a life and care about something _important_.

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  • General Custer, you're a fucking 12 year old retard if you believe that bullshit. And Harry "Homo" White, you're talking out of your ass you fag. Why don't you just go fuck your bitch "Queen" Elizabeth. And HARRY: YOU are a fucking asshole. I KNOW you saw the script, but what the fuck is your goddamn problem, you bitch? Give us SOMETHING from it.
    PS: Harry really IS that fat nerd guy from the Simpsons! (hahahahaha).

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  • Oct 21, 1998 4:34:33 PM CDT

    para el ignorante NUMBER OF THE BEAST

    by pendejo

    OYE IMBECIL, QUIEN HABLA DE NO SABER ESCRIBIR, PORQUE NO MIRAS TODA LA MIERDA QUE SALE DE TU TECLADO. ADEMAS, NO ES QUE YO NO SEPA ESCRIBIR, ES QUE TU NO SABES LEER ESPA

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  • Oct 21, 1998 11:47:57 PM CDT

    RE: the South-American geek

    by the number of the beast

    This is for that poor, ignorant, unlettered, illiterate, unenlightened, backward, irrational dope:

    If you brag about being smarter why do I only read sewage from your post? Why can't you say something that is coherent, congruous, smart, without having to revert to your South-American slang and poor dialect. At least say something decent in plain Spanish that won't give you away as being a poor, deprived, Simon-Bolivar-worshipping, Colombia-hating, merengue-loving moron.
    From your pathetic writing, I'm willing to bet you are from Venezuela, where else? (For your sake, I hope I am wrong)
    I dare you to write something INTELLIGENT in ENGLISH so that everyone reading TALK BACK can understand what you are struggling to say in your own language!
    ...smart enough for the challenge? ...man enough for the job? I expect more sewage from someone like you: a deprived, pitiable deviant.

    Go ahead, write a long, intelligent post in ENGLISH!!! OH!!! YOU CAN'T SPEAK AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IN ENGLISH? Go learn a new language, and read something other than SIMON BOLIVAR!!! Trust me, the entire WORLD can care less about your "LIBERTADOR". Did I hurt your feelings with the truth???? TOO BAD. Stop listening to your MERINGUE, and start listening to ROCK MUSIC, REAL MUSIC!!! AND DRINK HEINEKEN BEER, not your NATIONAL piss water (How is it called? POLAR?). BUY REAL LEVI's, not the imitation you are most likely wearing...


    By the way, you chose your name perfectly. It says everything about you...Did you come up with it yourself? A perfect description!!!

    ...AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS SITE? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN "STAR WARS"?

    ________________666_______________

    (And this is between ME and this guy. I don't think he needs the sympathy of others...)

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  • Oct 22, 1998 1:07:07 AM CDT

    Knights Templar=Freemasons

    by shadowdancer

    Superninja, where do you get your misinformation? Or have you been memory wiped? The Knights Templar did not evolve into the Freemasons. That is so ignorant. I'm surprised you can even operate a computer. Since you can, why don't you use it to do some research on a subject before you em-bare-ass yourself in front of the whole friggin' wide world.

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  • Oct 22, 1998 11:42:58 AM CDT

    Yes, Virginia, Knights Templar DID evolve into Freemasonry....

    by frank rizzo

    Sorry to correct you, Shadow Dancer, but it is YOU who have made a bit of an ass of yourself. The link between masonry and the templars is indirect but intact--at the very LEAST. According to Albert Pike, on Pg. 816 of "Morals and Dogma": "Therefore, it was that the Sword and the Trowel were the insignia of the Templars, who subsequently, as will be seen, concealed themselves under the name of Brethren Masons." Pike was one of the most famous and influential Masons of all time. Historian John J. Robinson agrees, in his book "Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry". His conclusion? Pope Clement V and King Phillip in 1313 tried to kill all the knights templar and take their wealth, so the survivors fled to Scotland--where the Scottish king refused to enforce the papal decree. The secret handshakes and so forth were designed because their lives were at stake, until 1717, when they felt secure enough to come out and establish public lodges. Also, he points out that "Templar" refers to the temple of Solomon--and Masonry claims to be founded upon the building of the Temple of Solomon. In "Mind & Magic" by Francis X. King, P. 84-85, he states, "Templars were the custodians of secret esoteric techings, later associated with Rosicrucianism and esoteric (secret) Masonry." Finally, ShadowDancer, why is the 13th degree of the York Rite called, "Knights Templar", hmmm? And why do so many books about the Templars show up in "recommended reading" lists by Masons? All coincidence, no doubt! You said, "Do some research on a subject before you embarass yourself in front of the whole friggin wide world"....well, research HAS been done by respected historians AND Masons themselves.....and guess what? THX1138 and Superninja are right, and "It is YOU who are mistaken.....about a great many thingssss!"

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  • Oct 22, 1998 12:01:58 PM CDT

    YES, I AM YOUR FATHER 666

    by 666 real father

    Ok, you bastard,

    I don't like meregue!!!! I don't like tropical music, but your mother did, oh yeah! how she danced! She really knew how to dance Salsa with my dick stuffed deep in her ass, oh yeah! That's how you were conceived, my son...

    And if you think I was going to be impressed with you telling me all that cheap shit trying to show me that you know a lot of stuff about south america, you are wrong!!!!! And BTW, I am not from Venezuela you son of a bitch, and I don't give a damn about Simon Bolivar as you don't give a fucking damn about Georgie boy, do you, asshole?

    Now, I bet you can't even write 2 consistent lines in spanish, you pale face moron, I am wasting my time writing to you SOB!!!

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  • Oct 22, 1998 2:00:51 PM CDT

    "Forget about that Ho, and act like a qualified pro."

    by ryan fogle

    Okay, everybody who thinks that this Jar Jar and Naboo stuff is Bullshit: Guess what....YOU'RE WRONG!!! Maybe Harry "fat ass" Knowles read the script and maybe he didn't, but Naboo is FACT. It's OFFICIAL! Buy the Behind the Magic CD, you fucking retard! You don't even have to be a 3rd grader to know that even THIS report is basically on track! I'll bet you just heard about Episode I yesterday! I've been following it for two years! What are you?; a fucking paranoid schizo or somethin'? It's not like Kennedy got shot, it's a fucking MOVIE!
    To Harry "Homo" White: Yeah, I got your point. You're probably more intelligent than all those dumb fuckers who think there's an Episode I conspiracy. But the fact is you're in the closet about your homosexuality. I don't have a problem with it. But just don't pretend to be straight when you're not, bro.
    And I definitley agree with Frank Rizzo. The Knights Templar DID INDEED evolve into the Freemasonary group. I remember it because I was intrigued by the Knights as a boy. I know that they were accused of worshipping a god named Baphomet. Did you know that??? PS: Show us the goddamn script Harry, you fat bastard.

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  • Oct 22, 1998 4:30:37 PM CDT

    Script

    by agent gonzo

    Did anyone ever think of the possibility that the script may not exist in the way you think it does? I know a few people that have tossed thru the script ever so briefly and it was 389 pages of storyboard with action in-between.
    Then, there is the other little shit. I know for sure that LUCAS has at least one screener print out there cause a major movie set got it 3 weeks ago. I have a friend who handed it to the director of said picture. The main cast, sans all the GRIPS, PA's and shit watched it that night.
    It was said to be 70% completed and run long but a WIP. That is all I heard there. I
    also know for sure that there is a 20 pg treatment that is about 90% accurite to the FINAL DRAFT of whatever the script is. Then it's beyond well known that a DVD with all the daillies compiled was
    jumping from studio to studio awhile back. LUCAS had put it on DVD and encoded it with the bitch of all codes specifically cause he didn't want the DVD duplicated.
    Are over 10 guys I know at various major studios lying?
    I also know a guy that got ahold of a 35mm Trailer of the TEASER before it was pulled. I know he had it cause he unrolled the back end of it and the last image before the release date was SAM JACKSON and that wasn't any outfit you'd see anywhere but in SW land. He said it ended with SJ
    saying, "May the force be with you."
    The idea of that is just fucking cool.
    So am I to assume that all this shit I have seen and heard myself is faked? Simply cause a few lonely little guys have
    to see it to believe it?
    Yah real likely. Get a fucking brain.

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  • Oct 22, 1998 5:36:22 PM CDT

    Another Lucas influence?

    by frank rizzo

    Ok, other than the Knights Templar, I wonder if "The Three Musketeers" was an influence on Lucas....I saw the latest Disney version on video the other day for the first time, the one with Chris O'Donnel (yes, I know it is standard Disney cheese, please forgive me) and it had several intriguing elements. First, the impatient boy who wants to be a warrior (O'Donnell's character, and Luke in SW) Second, the well meaning but fairly ignorant royalty. Third, the charming, manipulative religious character who steals power from the royalty (the Cardinal ? in red robes, and Palpatine from SW) Fourth, a bunch of knights that are given a bad name and disbanded, then replaced with evil ones. Fifth, the religious guy's henchman, a mysterious, humorless man who wears all black (the main baddie from "The Crow", and Darth Vader from SW) and who also killed the impatient warrior-in-training's father! Sixth, the O'Donnell/Luke character defeats the bad-dude-in-black thus redeeming his father. Finally, the impatient young warrior is mentored by an older, disillusioned veteran (Keifer Sutherland, and Obi-Wan). Has anyone else actually read the book, and if so, are there any other similarities the velveeta/Disney version may have left out? Lucas may have been influenced by Kurosawa, but I wonder who influenced HIM.......

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  • Oct 22, 1998 5:49:02 PM CDT

    666

    by pendejo

    Not bad 666, not bad...

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  • Oct 23, 1998 12:03:40 PM CDT

    comments and questions?

    by still a fan

    Just a comment and then some questions:

    1)This site is for all the Star Wars fans to communicate with each other and share opinions. It seems to me that it has DE-EVOLVED in a kindergarten mud-sling. If you don't like something on this site, don't read it. It's immature to call each other(and Harry) names and resort to bad-mouthing. Just my opinion.

    2)Questions from re-watching the original trilogy...

    a)If Owen is really Luke's Uncle and he's also Obi-Wan's brother, what is the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin>?

    b)Why does Ben act like he doen't know Artoo?

    c)Why doesn't Luke remember his and Leia's mother if Leia remembers even small details?
    Were they born at different times?

    d)Why in ANH-ROTJ is no metion ever made of the Federation? Naboo? or the Trade Alliance?

    e)What of the age difference between Amidala and Anakin?

    f)If Ben screwed up by training Anakin, why does he rush right into making the same mistake with Luke without telling Luke about Yoda in ANH?

    g)What happened to Amidala? The story of the twins' birth? No mention of her except for a small reference in ROTJ?

    h)Is the light saber Ben gives Luke really Anakins? Why is it Blue? How did Ben get it? How about the line: "Your father wanted you to have it when you were older?"

    i)Does Mon Mothma realize the emperor in ROTJ is her old enemy Senator Palpatine?

    j)Why was Luke stuck on some backwater world like Tatooine and Lei shipped to Alderaan if she's as powerful as Luke in the force?

    k)What kind of adventures do 3PO and R2 have before ANH if there is only like a 40 year span? (re 3PO's "NO MORE ADVENTURES" line)

    l)Are Anakin and Shmi Watoos or Jabba's slaves?

    m)What about the mysterious relationship between Shmi and Qui-gon. Nobody seems to talk about this much.

    n)Was Leia born on Tatooine as well as Luke. (re LUKE in ROTJ: " I was born here you know.")


    -that's all-some food (hopefully) for intelligent conversation)

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  • Oct 23, 1998 3:41:26 PM CDT

    Re: Still a fan

    by saguaro

    Luke never said "I was born here you know".

    He said "I used to live here, you know"
    And Han Solo replies "You are gonna' die here. How convenient"
    "Just stick close to Chewie and Lando, I'm taking care of everything..."
    (Sorry I got carried away)
    The truth is, it not known where LUKE and LEIA where born. The whole issue is a MYSTERY. I personally think LUKE was NOT born on Tatooine. LEIA was brought to ALDERAAN while LUKE was brought to the dessert planet BY BEN, after paying a brief visit to YODA at DAGOBAH. Remember Luke's line in ESB? "There is something familiar about this place"
    How old do you think Luke and Leia were when they were sent away to Tatooine and Alderaan? I don't know. I would like to speculate they were probably a a couple of months old. Probably Episode III begins with a TITLE CRAWL stating that QUEEN has just given birth to the Skywalker twins. In good Star Wars tradition, the movie starts with a mise'en scene (can't spell French- sorry about that).
    Anyway, I hope this helps.

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  • Oct 23, 1998 9:25:20 PM CDT

    back off episode 1

    by fordfairlane2

    Look guys, could you all (most of you, anyway) back off Episode 1 for a minute? You take every single little piece of information, picture, rumor, design, sketch a.s.o, and confirmed or unconfirmed, you bash it around as if it were the center of the film. I mean, who cares if a creature that will be on screen for about 4 seconds in the background isn't exactly what we

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