May 16, 2006, 3:15 a.m. CST
May 16, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST
her fantastic power could be reading the phone book and i'd still pay to watch. it'd be good if she also did a little dance, though, because why waste film?
May 16, 2006, 3:23 a.m. CST
Ragging on a movie upon notice of the release date...before filming has even begun?
May 16, 2006, 3:23 a.m. CST
Utter shite. This sequel will be avoided at all costs. When will Marvel just stop making these garbage movies? Throwing as much shit at the wall, with only Spiderman sticking.
May 16, 2006, 3:25 a.m. CST
as it doesn't feel like a wacky sitcom like the first one did. To be fair my seven year old brother loved it so at least he'll be excited
May 16, 2006, 3:31 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
When a studio does this they obviously don't a rats ass about the movie just opening day BO. Why don't you wait and make a good enough F42 movie that could beat anything at the box office? No they'd rather make a piece of shit and run away from Michael Bay. Pathetic. I can't wait for 2015 when they remake this franchise.
May 16, 2006, 3:34 a.m. CST
by Virtual Satyr
on my promise not to see the Fantastic Flop movie...and I'm sure I'll make good on my promise not to see the second one as well.
May 16, 2006, 3:50 a.m. CST
by Snowden's Secret
Michael Bay at the same time. Bay represents all that is wrong with Hollywood - formulaic commercialism and mindless drivel. He takes promising projects with talented actors and spins it dog crap.
May 16, 2006, 3:51 a.m. CST
... or just the Surfer by himself, no context?
May 16, 2006, 3:56 a.m. CST
Remember how the first one was such a big hit here? How it made like $140 million. Then the 2nd one came out and it did like $60 million. If FF 2 looks or resembles anything like the first one, it'll bomb just like Tomb Raider. The Franchise will be over i tell you. Damn i'm still pissed that they made Dr. Doom such a pussy.
May 16, 2006, 3:58 a.m. CST
The FF movie was so lame it made Crash look like Citzen Kane. I suppose they could save the franchise if they made it like the original movie with the bad effects and shitty plotline. The only way to save it is to introduce the Super Skrull character. At least then it would be inadvertantly entertaining...
May 16, 2006, 4:25 a.m. CST
Look how they flee cowardly from it's path. Mwa-ha-ha!
May 16, 2006, 4:34 a.m. CST
It sucked.....HARD. Looks like they are going to re-peat their winning formula from the first one. I give up.
May 16, 2006, 4:36 a.m. CST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seksmisja for those unfamiliar.
May 16, 2006, 4:37 a.m. CST
Think about what this means for the films schedule. If reports are correct and Galactus and or Silver Surfer (if you have Galactus, surely you need the Surfer) do feature, and they'd prepped for the original schedule then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed too. Think of the level of post-production they're going to need for Galactus alone!!??? The majority of the people bitching at Harry don't have the insight he does into the industry. I know the movie industry is one of the most fluid industries out there with reports becoming bullshit within the space of minutes rather than just hours, but if you've got that insight by way of scripts, set reports, interviews, general chit chat etc how long does it take to get seriously jaded by the final results? I for one enjoy the passion that is evident on this site. If you want unbiased, straight down the middle reporting then go elsewhere. Why do you continue to visit this site if you dislike the views presented? It's fucking retarded.
May 16, 2006, 4:38 a.m. CST
I CAN'T WAIT! The Fantastic Four was the best film I'd seen since Manos: The Hands of Fate (in English, Hands: The Hands of Fate!)
May 16, 2006, 4:50 a.m. CST
by The Founder
Soory but harry has proven on more the then one occasion that he is very biased and will use his site to destroy a film before it's even released. Harry has bashed X3 to no end, but then a few days ago we got damn positive outlooks on Fast & Furious 3 starring Bow Wow? Give me a phucking break. Now F&F3 may be good(stranger things have happened)but I think it's safe to say that most the frequent thissite is not the demographic. Whatever I'm tired of bitching about this crap. F4 wasn't bad, but it was a very poorly half assed attempted that wasted 100 plus million on something that could've been much better. FF2, hey I'm there if the film looks to have been treated with quality this go round, but other wise if it's more of the same I'll pass.
May 16, 2006, 5 a.m. CST
by The Founder
FOX has proven that they will phuck up a potential hit. Yeah F4 made over 300 million world wide, but in an age with declining movie revenues the studios need to entice people with better stories and just overall a better product instead of the same run of the mill formula. Has FOX learned it's lesson? Will they realize they have something great on their hands? Will they hire a better creative team? Will the y fix Ben Grimm? Doubtful, because they are perfectly content with sticking with something that worked first go round as opposed reaching for the stars. FOX and many studio execs would rather take a chance on a crappy product with a formula that already worked and make a profit rather it be small or large then put forth quality and trust with a good hired creative team and let the director work instead of him and his crew being yes men. Truth be told i don't expect much from F42. If FOX sticks to the same formual it will turn out to be a Tomb Raider 2 and as it should.
May 16, 2006, 5:06 a.m. CST
by The Founder
While ihave titianic issues with FOX and F42 I think it's a little early to start circling the wagon Harry. We've heard nothing about the script officially, who's the crative team, who;s back and who's new. D@mn harry i'm expecting zero from FOX's F42, but i'm willing to wait until we hear something officially from thestufdio or a trusted source.
May 16, 2006, 5:16 a.m. CST
by Anna Valerious
May 16, 2006, 5:17 a.m. CST
by Anna Valerious
Movie Sue Storm. And no, I'm not doing the cleavage.
May 16, 2006, 5:42 a.m. CST
I consider myself an Uber-Geek, with a huge knowldge of everything comics, movies, computers etc... But I don't have the slightest desire to see a bad idea(Transformers) brought to life on film. Give me a medeocre FF movie anyday.
May 16, 2006, 6:20 a.m. CST
Unless they stick to Gen 1 and use as many actors from the cartoon as possible the movie WILL suck.
May 16, 2006, 6:47 a.m. CST
by Mr Jonse
...I mean we've got the team all set up with no need for the all the expo, you've got a disfigured Doctor D coming at them from Latveria (potentially). Yeah it probably *will* be shit but don't reckon for writing off just yet. And Bay is *perfect* for Transformers. It's not like it's a WTC movie, guys, it's robots that turn into cars. *Robots* that turn into *cars*...
May 16, 2006, 7:06 a.m. CST
by Anna Valerious
That's only ONE part of anime, pal.
May 16, 2006, 7:17 a.m. CST
by Media Fiend
in either of these projects. They screwed up FF, and TRANSFORMERS was a lousy commercial for mediocre toys.
May 16, 2006, 7:27 a.m. CST
Thanks for echoing my thoughts on this stupid Transformer movie. Granted, watching giant robots leveling a city could be fun
May 16, 2006, 7:27 a.m. CST
But find a better topic to complain about. If he wants to sling mud at this nightmare, I'm giving him a pass.
May 16, 2006, 7:56 a.m. CST
May 16, 2006, 7:58 a.m. CST
cmon hollywood make it so
May 16, 2006, 8:12 a.m. CST
And speaking of shit... FF was on the same level as Nick Fury: Agent of THE SHIELD.
May 16, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST
May 16, 2006, 8:16 a.m. CST
May 16, 2006, 8:25 a.m. CST
by Lost Skeleton
and make it a little more epic. I think Tim Story us still wrong but I support the brothers so here is hoping FOX gives him a good script and some coin to make this right. Transformers is going to kick ass by the way so it was smart to move FF2
May 16, 2006, 8:33 a.m. CST
Say what you will, but Story and some of the crew did say they were limited by Fox as far as what they could do in terms of exposition and f/x work, and if they shell out a little more cash and a longer running time this time around, it may work.
May 16, 2006, 8:41 a.m. CST
The first movie was enjoyable. More enjoyable than it had a right to be.
May 16, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST
but I just hope the sequel is a bit more, you know, fantastic. Oh and gavdiggity, SuperSkrull would be awesome. So would Ultimate Nightmare's Galaktus or the Frightful Four or Doom unleashing a plague of biomechanical locusts or whatever making Latveria a sort of proto Zero One from The Second Renaissance Animatrix short. If they rip off Kirby or Ultimate F4 then I'll enjoy it. The first one was fun and I think that Tim Story's genuine love of these characters will ensure that the sequel is also what a superhero film is supposed to be, fun.
May 16, 2006, 9:09 a.m. CST
by Atomik Steve
I got the DVD as a gift...and I actually liked it! I had a lot of baggage going into it, mostly thanks to this site. I think that the lowered expectations allowed me to be pleasantly surprised. I'm not saying it was great, but at least it was fun. That's all I can ask for these days...
May 16, 2006, 9:13 a.m. CST
I had to do it... But yeah, after the first one I'd prefer a longer wait for number 2. Hopefully they will hold production until after I die...
May 16, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST
by jasper Stillwell
He's a mediocre director the last one was overlit and poorly handled/staged in terms of drama and simple framing. The thought of him handling Galactus and Silver Surfer simply fills me with gloom. The original FF comic was reknowned for its expressive visual sense, it would have been great to have seen some of that make it in to the final film. This is stuff which doesn't necessarily rely on money but does rely on imagination and flair. Which Story simply doesn't have enough of. Sorry. Couldn;t there be a little more of Kirby in the designs? And (copyright Dennis Pennis) everytime Iaon Gruffyd appeared it was like someone had thrown a chair into shot...RECAST!!!
May 16, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST
so how's Thursday for you?
May 16, 2006, 9:21 a.m. CST
Some of you are fucking retarded. I mean, how the fuck can you believe that FF2 could be anything other than a steaming pile of bile? The first one blew, especially considering how g-d damn amazing the original material was. Now they wanna rush FF2 so they can make a quick couple bucks off the same retarded fuckers who paid to see RV. Christ, just give it more time and they too could have a movie just as good as Spider-Man 2 or X2. It ain't that hard considering the source material. And I'm not saying Transformers will be any better, it just that well, I have zero interest in anything Bay does. Can't help it. Saw Pearl Harbor and tuned out. But I will say this: Superman Returns will rock the kasba
May 16, 2006, 9:24 a.m. CST
90-130 minutes of footage is of commercial value based on quantity of silicon on celluloid and silicone in spandex. Oh, and smarmy insinuations and snarky rejoinders. There is no "quality."
May 16, 2006, 9:26 a.m. CST
not great, not shit. ok. i had a decent time watching, but i havent rushed out to buy it yet...perhaps when its reduced enough. it was a nice diversion, it passed the time but it just could have been much more. one thing im thankful for is they didnt get any "sue darling" shit, i really HATE that. and jessica alba is the least convincing scientist since denise richards in the world is not enough. but it was nice getting to look at her for an hour and a half.
May 16, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST
If Tim Story develops the power to light Jessica Alba to show off that bod wrapped in spandex (why did every scene in the first one have to be in the dark?), this would be Oscar material.
May 16, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST
by jasper Stillwell
I used to believe that commercial cinema (even within comic book films) could have some kind of worth (admittedly forged in watching pre-Star Wars '70s Hollywood). That someone intelligent, artful and entertaining wouldn't have to be mutually exclusive concepts. Michael Bay (and Bruckheimer) with his cynical, patronising, oafish, hyperactive, self-satisfied and moronic dreck has finally beaten that naive ideal out of me. The thought of a Transformers movie quite honestly sounds like an insult to anyone's intelligence - really kiddies if you keep eating this crap they'll be more than happy to keep squeezing it out of their cornholes for you...
May 16, 2006, 9:37 a.m. CST
I just can't get worked up over a Transformers movie. I guess they arrived a little too late for me (I think I was in high school when they first hit the shelves). At least FF2 has a potentially interesting story to tell (IF they dare attempt FF #48-50 with barely a year til its release date). As opposed to "Ooh, look a giant robot that can turn into a fire engine!"
May 16, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST
sorry dude, Thursday is no good for me. I'll let you know though... And you want to see a sequel to a very average movie? I guess you are more forgiving than I. How was 2 Fast 2 Furious; Legally Blond 2; Look who's talking too; Speed 2?
May 16, 2006, 9:48 a.m. CST
between the treatment of Spiderman and FF, besides, maybe, the amount of money spent on FX. I thought Fantastic Four was a fun diversion. Anyone who thinks that it was a safe bet to give FF an ultra high budget and the treatment they give stuff like the Batman movies is off their fucking rocker. I could have told you that it would be a safe ball lobbed down the middle well before the movie got made. However, while I don't see a difference between the treatment, storywise, of Spiderman and FF, I do see a difference between the two of them and the Hulk. The Hulk is what happens when the story is taken too seriously and its just not fun to watch. Ang Lee sucked the life out of it... although it was beautifully made. Batman Begins, to me, was the best comic book movie I've ever seen, but I just can't believe how much people hate FF and how much they are exactly the opposite when it comes to the Spiderman movies, which, to me at least, are total shit. I realize I'm in an extremely small minority, btw...
May 16, 2006, 9:49 a.m. CST
But it was not the movie I wanted to see for one of my favorite comic book titles. From what I've heard, Silver Surfer is slated for this movie, but I don't think Galactus makes an appearance. With this tight a production schedule, I don't expect anything great from FF2. Too bad.
May 16, 2006, 9:56 a.m. CST
I wish Marvel would put more time and effort into their big-title properties, and forget about making an "Antman" movie. Yeesh.
May 16, 2006, 10:01 a.m. CST
I think some ingenuity rather than a higher budget would be the key to making FF2 more entertaining. The comics always had perilously exciting adventures and the filmmakers just needs to get more high concept, which doesn't actually mean that it should cost more or look glossier. Hell a great team of filmmakers could use the power of suggestion and thge audience's imagination to fill the gaps that currently get spackfilled with CGI and other ridiculous expenses. I AM looking forward to a sequel to FF, average as it was. They were hard characters to establish (I mean come on FIVE origins in ONE film!?) but now that the characters HAVE been established and the team dynamic defined the adventures SHOULD begin. What happenbed to audiences? Have you all become so lazy that you're afraid to do even the least amount of work? Does everything have to be spelled out in endless cutaways and flashbacks combined with expository dialogue and explicit CGI effects that show might otherwise be left to the imagination? I say give this film a break which is odd since I'm not cutting Superman Returns any slack but if you knew the people I know who worked on that monstrosity and the tales they weren't legally allowed to tell then you'd be pissed off and the amount of money flushed away on that thing too. Who long sentences are a sure sign I need sleep.
May 16, 2006, 10:03 a.m. CST
by jasper Stillwell
...Sorry but I realise I'm in a sick, sad minority but I'd kind of like to see a 1963-set Antman movie...forced Kirby-esque Tales To Astonish perspectives, an 'hilarious' comedy finale with Hank becoming Giant Man, Janeanne Garafalo as Janet Van Dyne - *yes, yes I know, I know, I know...*
May 16, 2006, 10:08 a.m. CST
And let me guess, the Silver Surfer will be some kind of hippie surfer dude from California that acts as his underling, kind of like Otis from the SUPERMAN films. Shit, I just spoiled the movie, didn't I? (PLEASE INSERT SPOILER WARNING)
May 16, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST
I do see your point. Kind of like X-men which suffered from having to do so much exposition. Only in my opinion they did that in X-men (with far more characters) to far better effect. I can see you care a lot about FF and want a good sequel. I do too but I thought the original was pretty lack-luster and did not inspire me to see more (of the same). Peace.
May 16, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST
The .000034 milliseconds it takes for me to scroll past your posts is killing me.
May 16, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST
FF? blaaaa im sick of humans in movies lets see some MECHANICAL LIFEFORMS squash some humans!!!!
May 16, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST
May 16, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST
The greatest Fantastic Four sequel in the UNIVERSE would be crushed by this transformers movie. And this is not that sequel. (by the way, they had to back off July 4th last time too. these guys are like the nerd that declares for class president on the hope that no one else will bother to enter the race)
May 16, 2006, 10:28 a.m. CST
"The Master Doom wants Jessica Alba for himself but he can't have you I will keep you for myself. Baaa!"
May 16, 2006, 10:29 a.m. CST
I'm not planning on seeing either of these movies in the theater, especially FF2 but I think it would be cool if they had that transformer who could turn into a boombox and they had this big dance off. That would make me smile.
May 16, 2006, 10:37 a.m. CST
Transformers=Stupid, FF=Fun by zekmoe= zekmoe really really fucking stupid
May 16, 2006, 10:46 a.m. CST
F4 was meh for me. not terrible but certainly not memorable. got alittle more hope for the second one but it all seems to rushed. atleast the characters are already introduced. so no time will be wasted on that shit. these execs dont realize what kins of movies they have on there hands and just rush out mediocre shit to make a couple of bucks instead of taking time to make quality movies that will nock the socks of everone. just look at the spiderman formula. time & development equals sweet ass shit.
May 16, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST
I really did. I thought it was a fun movie and I could watch it with my kids.
May 16, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST
Unless Fox has the movie rights to him and they do a spin off. More likely, there would be a Galactus(yeah, right) and another herald that they could fight. Hopefully it won't be that lame ass Gah-Lak-Tus shite with all the little space ships.
May 16, 2006, 11:26 a.m. CST
What's so disheartening about it is this: the people in charge of this process see Antman, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Superman, Batman and X-men as exactly the same. They see all these lists of comic book titles, select one they have not ruined yet, use "paint by numbers adventure plot #287" and twist and alter the characters to fit the formula. They count on name recognition to draw in the fans and a media blitz to pull in the general audience. Bank on a good opening week end and the curious to make a profit for them before word gets out that it sucks. Once it becomes evident they can't milk that particular title any more they just move down the list to the next comic book and pull up "paint by numbers adventure plot #288" and run the process again. It's a crime against the art form and a criminal waste of potential. They are throwing away a fortune they could take in with quality series of epic films for the sake of tricking the public, investing as little in the production as possible, and making a quick buck. IDIOTS are in charge, pure and simple. THEY DON"T GET IT. I doubt they ever will.
May 16, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST
Yeah I wish. If they were owned by the same distributor or if the two distributors teamed up, how cool would it be if the storyline of Spiderman 3 was continued in Fantastic Four 2 akin to a comic book crossover storyline? And Spidey and the FF could fight Venom and Dr. Doom as a collective. Ok I have to stop typing or my head will explode.
May 16, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST
by R.C. the "Wise"
Mark my words ...it's the biggest movie of next year. That's right. I predict, worldwide, that Transformers will make more $$$ than Spidey 3 or Harry Potter 5.
May 16, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST
The climax. That's it. Rest of it was them bitching at each other. Gay. And don't try to sell me on how that made them a "family".
May 16, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST
by R.C. the "Wise"
TRANSFORMERS will rock, pleasebelieveit!
May 16, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST
I believe that is a demo copied from here - and it may just be someone showing off their ability, not actually hired: http://3dblasphemy.com/OPTIMUS/OPTIMUS.html
May 16, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST
FF2 is undoubtedly going to be celluoid diarrhea.
May 16, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST
Fox got Bret Ratner to direct X-Men 3.
May 16, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST
harry and crew can just look at the release date and tell you whether you will like a movie or not. in fact, they are so good at predicting the likeability of a film, they don't even need to see it to know if it's good or not! why; they have no idea what xmen 3, superman returns, miami vice, fantastic four 2, casino royale, etc. will be like- but, it's all cool! they don't need to ACTUALLY watch a film! they run a WEBSITE! so, of course, they can tell you how you should feel about a movie. they don't need to see it. their GUT tells them. and, as you all know, that's where the TRUTH lies!!
May 16, 2006, 1:01 p.m. CST
His molten metal penis may have been the only thing more painful than watching the movie. But hey, I didn't pay for any of it, so it was less sucky (almost said cool) Actually the best part about Fantastic Four was the Gene Shalit quote on the box "Fantastic Four is Fantastic Fun" So true.
May 16, 2006, 1:10 p.m. CST
All the fanboys coming out of the woodwork a year from now complaining about the lack of FF2 reviews on this site, then only to bitch when they finally post a review and it's negative... (or a positive one that turns out to be planted)
May 16, 2006, 1:11 p.m. CST
THAT IMAGERY ALONE WILL BE SOMETHING TO SEE-could finally be THE big, fun superhero movie.
May 16, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST
by Ricky Retardo
Dr. Doom sounded like Liberace. "Let's not fiiiight." FF was an insult to the memory of Jack Kirby. A shrimp as Thing! A Puerto Rican Susan Storm! A limp-wristed Reed Richards! Story should be banned for life from the Director's Guild.
May 16, 2006, 2:48 p.m. CST
I bitch about CG a lot, but if the movie has any of the qualities of that CG test, this could really be a huge movie. I liked the way it was just hand-held, man on the street, type camera movement. I'd go so far as to say the qualities of that little test are exactly what's missing nearly all science fiction, comic, and action movies. It just has a sense of awe and scale that one can only pray the movie will have.
May 16, 2006, 2:54 p.m. CST
... yeah the first one was a total waste of effort and time (apart from J Alba). The Thing was terrible... looked like a guy in a zip-up rubber suite for christ's sake... nothing special about that effect!! I also didn't care for Johnny Storm as he made me want to douse him in petrol and put a match to the cocky fucker... hey wait a minute! This sequel's gonna bomb harder than MI:3. As for Transformers... I couldn't give a monkeys about that souless, consumerized heap of steaming shit ... I'm just glad Bay's directing something I would never ever want to see no matter what the circumstances were... if Transformers was only 3 minutes long it would be too long. This movie's definitely one for the retards...
May 16, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST
by Neo Zeed
What has Tim Story ever done that was good. Barbershop?! C'mon..that guy should've been thrown outta Hollywood after Taxi much less the Fantastic 4.
May 16, 2006, 4:19 p.m. CST
I'd probably choose mild torture rather than see FF2. I'd probably even choose very mild torture rather than see another Jim Carrey train wreck.
May 16, 2006, 4:49 p.m. CST
by Samuel Steamer
i thought it was a fun hero movie. The audience I saw it with liked it. It's not Batman or Superman. Most people don't even really know much about the comic. I hope they can please more people this time. I really liked the first. I must have been in a good mood.
May 16, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST
by Rant Breath
One of the worst Marvel movies and thats saying something!
May 16, 2006, 6:46 p.m. CST
Try reading the original Marvel comics or watch the TF animated movie and tell me it's just a stupid toy commercial. Transformers has the ability to be a truly mythic adventure. It's not some mindless militaristic bollocks like GI Joe. It could be this generation's Star Wars if done right. Of course, whether Bay will do it justice is another question entirely. But the potential is definitely there.
May 16, 2006, 8:32 p.m. CST
i feel sorry for those who didn't. i know it's just you wanted something from the movie fantastic four just can't deliver...a completely serious brooding movie like batman. FF just can't do that. and they won't. yeah doom sucks big time. but the real problem with that movie for you guys is that it wasn't spiderman, or batman begins. FF is about as deep as a bird bath. Always has been. it's not like batman and robin butchering the batman name. FF is all about cheesey superhero fluff. it's about action and fun. there is no serious side.
May 16, 2006, 8:40 p.m. CST
by iron pills
Not a bad idea with the thoughts of a crossover Marvel flick. But we know the studios are just too greedy for that to happen. In a slight defense of Fantastic Four, perhaps people were looking for an upbeat movie, being that also playing in theatres at the time were War of the Worlds, about aliens kicking our ass, and an excellent, though dark in tone, Batman Begins. Chalk it up to good timing, I guess. One Thing (heh) I'm hoping for the FF sequel, please give the Thing some eyebrows in this movie! And let's see them really throw down this time against whatever super villain they face...
May 16, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST
Given that FF1 was moved away from the same date in '04, **AND** it failed to suffer as a consequence. Ask any FF fan that is ultimately pleased with how the movie turned out and they will tell you that this is not the end of the world. In fact, this exposes Harry as an opportunist more than anything else. He disliked the first flick, so he heralds the sequel as more of the same. That's kinda sad. As a purveyor of things 'cool' he should anticipate this.
May 16, 2006, 9:25 p.m. CST
by all your base
why would an alien race look like a honda civic?
May 16, 2006, 11:02 p.m. CST
I have no idea what the people who hated F4 want from a FF film, have they ever even read the comics? For the sequel I'd like to see Millar's Frightful Four story adapted in its entirety, it could be done very inexpensively if you got creative and utilised the power of suggestion, then the third one would be Doom having transformed Latveria making a comeback.
May 17, 2006, 4:47 a.m. CST
The cast is what it is and I don't want to see cast changes at this point. Those actors, with the exception of Jessica Alba, are all good actors but admittedly they didn't have too much to work with and then again what if they did? The Fantastic Four was never written by Shakespeare, hell even Shakespeare probably wasn't written by Shakespeare. However that said I'd be happier if the SITUATIONS were a bit more fantastic, I can handle the Reed-no-babble and the less than pithy statements because when characters in comic book films do orate reams of monologues it never seems right. These characters are supposed to be fantastical but real and so the ordinary dialogue works to anchor the cosmic elements of each character making them seem more real, to me at least. Jessica Alba looks nice but I've never once been convinced by her as anything other than a pretty face. The Thing? You had a problem with the look of The Thing? Have you ever seen the way Kirby drew Ben Grimm's The Thing way back when? That suit looked awesome, so much better than what he has become since and so much more realistic than anything that could be done with CGI. Doom wasn't great but if you think about it he was always a really shitty villain with a cool look. Now he makes a bit more sense thanks to their utilisation of concepts from Ultimate F4. I agree Galactus if done wrong will kill this film and by wrong I mean the big purple dude with the helmet. I'm all for things being slavishly dfaithful to the source material in certaion respects but there are some things that just need to change with the times and I would prefer to see Warren Ellis' Gah-Lak-Tus as it is truly cosmic, frightening and now. Still that character is just too dark and I'd rather see them do something else, like a timetravel plot or a parallell dimension, MiBesque alien invasion or some such. I used to HATE these characters when I was a kid. I only came to them recently, with UF4 and the film. Afterwards I voraciously consumed their history and realised that they suck when done poorly and really require a mind capable of properly grasping cool cosmic concepts and being able to throw away high-concept ideas as a quick prologue then move on to something evcen bigger and cooler for the main story. Witness the recent run by Mark Millar and Greg Land, perfect.
May 17, 2006, 4:59 a.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/p7fov http://tinyurl.com/lffh2 Here's a wikipedia entry about his Ultimate incarnation: "Gah Lak Tus is an immense (approx. 100,000 miles long) group mind of robotic drones. It targets worlds with a flesh-eating virus which destroys all life, after which the entity breaks open the dying world to its core and sucks dry all its thermal energy, preventing any intelligent life from growing on, or inhabiting, that world ever again. Unlike Galactus, who at one point was a relatively normal humanoid being, Gah Lak Tus considers all forms and expressions of organic life to be so abhorrent it believed itself desecrated when telepathically contacted by Professor X."
May 17, 2006, 6:41 a.m. CST
by Rant Breath
...who defend the Fantastic Bore and dismiss the Transformers concept. You have no imagination. NONE. Go back to watching shitty "reality" shows.
May 17, 2006, 4:05 p.m. CST
First X-men, now Fantastic Four? Did Avi Arad call you fat or something? And now you're defending Michael Bay at the helm of anything? Transformers was a great idea that reached it's peak in 1985, and every crappy anime series that we've been subjected to since does not warrant a movie, especially one helmed by the hack responsible for Pearl Harbor. I suppose the only solace I can take from this whole thread is that your failure to sabotage these films is pretty much a foregone conclusion, seeing as how these days AICN is about as relevant as Kobe Bryant in game 7.
May 17, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST
I won't even rent it when it comes out on DVD. I will wait until my library owns it, and take it out for free. The first movie just pissed on the fans, especially when making Doctor Doom into a smarmy yuppie fuck. Doctor Doom is possibly the greatest comic-book villain of all time (and is rumored to be the inspiration for the greatest film villain of all time, Darth Vader). Instead of doing any justice to the comics creators and fans, the studio just puked out a terrible movie. I won't put any money towards a sequel, especially when I am sorry I paid for a ticket for the original film. The studios should simply understand this: make decent movies out of the properties that the fans love, or do not expect our business. It's a simple equation.
May 17, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST
by John Dalmas
I wasn't too excited till I saw this footage. It's probably fan work, but it's the most Bay-like of any I've seen. Scroll down to see the clips: www.3dblasphemy.com/OPTIMUS/OPTIMUS.html
May 17, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST
...over a potential, nay near enough guaranteed box office smash in an on-screen Carrey/Stiller combo from the director of Meet The Parents and Austin Powers? That's a potential $50 million plus opening there...sure FF2 will make money in spin offs but I'd probably bet my money on the big sci fi comedy with two of the most bankable funnymen around...at least there's more potential for a broader audience with that?
May 17, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST
The first FF movie was pushed back so that it wouldn't compete with some other movie. I forgot what the other movie was, but this move shows how much confidence Fox doesn't have in FF2.
May 17, 2006, 11:08 p.m. CST
I'll watch this movie... with my browneye
May 17, 2006, 11:33 p.m. CST
Okay, I'll admit that Sue and Reed are a little off, but Johnny and Ben are note perfect. And I think that Alba and whatzisname still manage to capture the feel of Ult. Sue and Reed even if they don't look exactly like them. In particular, I thought Alba had all of Sue's innocence and sweetness and was sort of refreshing given how cynical female superheroes are written.
May 17, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST
The situations need to be more fantastic. Like they are set in an extraordinary world where things are unpredictable - not everyday. That is the problem with ALL of the superhero films. Even Spider-Man.