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X3 rocks?!?!?! Sadly in the mind of a misguided fan that wants it to be!

Hey folks, Harry here... Moriarty and I had read this review and felt that there was better than even odds that this was an earnest review from a fan, but it wasn't jiving, sadly, with what we had heard of the quality. SO - in our own excitement over the chance that we MAY be wrong about X3... we printed it. TURNS out that the review was created by some misguided whiney fanboy that just wanted us to shut up with the negativity in regards to the film. Frankly - right now I'm really depressed - because what this review did was give false hope. And it flushed out someone that had seen the film that thought it was a waste and mediocre. What this means is - AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources. This is sad. I really want X3 to be good. Now we'll just have to wait and see. It wasn't written by a studio plant - which at least is a sign that the studio doesn't feel the need to plant reviews online yet. But discount the following. Sadly.

Hey folks, Harry here... Here's the moment we've been waiting for... the first word on X3. And the word is that it is mostly badass. Now - let's pray that this isn't a plant, something that would actually be a great disservice to the film. However, I have to say - this is what I hoped would happen. If you remember your X-MEN history online, you'll remember that the word on the first X-MEN was dismal until its release. Then once it hit with that early press screening here in Austin - I went ecstatic. Not that it was the X-MEN movie of my dreams, just that it wasn't the nightmare that had been rumored. That's the hardest part about this gig. You hear from so many people on a project. Folks that disagree with the direction of the film, folks that could only see the film from their narrow place in the larger picture, and finally folks that just read the script and assume that it couldn't get better. Now, because of this review - from someone we've never heard from before - I'm not saying we should all be relieved, that Ratner has pulled off a miracle... but what it means is that someone we all don't know seems to think so - let's hope this guy is right. Cuz if not... we'll all be sad as hell coming out of a theater in two weeks. Here ya go... beware of SPOILERS...

Hey guys. Guess who got his ass into a screening of X3 (they can call it The Last Stand but we all know what the real title is). This friend of mine snuck me in at the last minute. All I can say they got it right. If the last one was subtitled “X:Men: United,” the subtitle of this one should be: “X-Men Kick the Holy Crap Out of Each Other for 2 Hours.” This isn’t your mama’s X-men. This is full on WAR. The body count is f*ing amazing. Even Xavier finally gets into the action after being unconscious on a slab for most of the previous two movies. I don’t want to ruin the ending, but let me put it this way; you get to see Wolverine’s entire adamantium skeleton. Up close and personal.

The picture picks up right where x2 left off and immediately grabs you with two really surprising prologues; including a glimpse of young angel (this kid has some issues). Everyone knows the basics of the plot – Joss’ cure plot (complete with the freaky little kid at the center) combined with the Dark Phoenix resurrection thing – so I’m not going to waste your time or give away every spoiler here. What the Rat does really well is take the intensity to the next level. I liked x1 some & x2 a lot, but Singer’s characters were always so reserved and there was a slow boil to both his films. That made for some great one liners (“how do i know it’s you?” “Cause you’re a dick”) but both films left me wanting more. In x3, you get more from moment one. From the very first shot where we see a young Xavier and Magneto (yes, a young X & M. I still don’t know how they did this one) on a little school recruiting trip, to Cyke going a little nutty, to Logan and Jean finally getting down to business, the emotion and drama is finally let loose. One example: in x2, Wolverine goes Berserker for a nano-second (one rush down a hallway???). In x3, there are entire sequences of him in full rage mode, slicing and dicing Brotherhood geeks like a one-man Ginsu infomercial. I’ve generally liked Jackman as Wolverine, but in 1 & 2 he always felt like Xavier’s tame dog. In x3, even they go at it and Xavier puts him in his place! Xavier is not screwing around in this one. In almost every scene, you finally feel like the shackles have been taken off and they are playing for keeps.

Ok. What didn’t I like? I’ve never been a fan of the whole Harry Potter/superkids in boarding school thing. Hell, if I’m Rogue and some little beyotch is making a play for Bobby, I just go give the girl a big hug for about 30 seconds. Problem solved. There is some more of that kiddie drama here. What’s nice about how they did it, though, is that we don’t have to suffer through another on-the-nose “coming out” scene like x2. They actually tie the kids into the cure plot seamlessly and give that story a HUGE twist in the end. And, as much as I haven’t loved the kids in 1 & 2, they seem much more grown-up this time and Bobby and Pyro finally go at once and for all, which is really well done. Bobby doesn’t go all Frozone on us with ice slides, but he does something BADASS at the end and I literally cheered. They finally gave us some shit we have been begging for for 3 films.

One of the things that totally works – Beast. I had real doubts about the casting of this one. Kelsey is the gay shrink from Seattle for Chrissakes! Personally, I always saw Fishburne as Beast. I was wrong. The second you see Kelsey (awesome intro of him in his office), he IS Beast. – perfect voice, attitude and intelligence. One of the best moments in the movie is between Beast and Leech where Beast gets to experience firsthand what a life without his power/curse might be like.

One that doesn’t work as well – the Danger Room. It’s just ok, not spectacular. I guess its one of those things that looks good only paper – like a date with Paris Hilton. You get all excited beforehand but then wake up the next day with a strange itch and your naked ass being streamed on YouTube. Yes, there is a glimpse of a Sentinel and the fastball special, but the DR didn’t “wow” me like the rest of the film. Maybe I’m jaded, but the whole “this is a real battle!?! Nope, it was all really just a test!” thing feels old to me. I’ve seen it done great (Kobayashi Maru in Wrath of Khan), and done lame (Tomb Raider). But, needless to say, it’s been done.

That said, another thing that works GREAT: when Jean goes Dark Phoenix. Holy God. This girl doesn’t go Medium Phoenix, or Sorta Phoenix, she goes DARK Phoenix. As Dennis Miller used to say, her time of the month IS the month. Forget that Davinci crap (spoiler: Jesus got laid), Jean is the one character this summer that actually goes Biblical and leaves a trail of bodies in her wake. When the X-Men have to step up and confront her, it tears your heart out. That’s what’s cool about x3 – there are no black-or-white choices, it’s all shades of grey (pun acknowledged). Is the cure a good or bad thing? What would you do if someone close to you was spiraling out of control? X3 shows both sides of these issues. Singer did a good job at this. Ratner continues this tradition. That’s what makes the X-Men the X-Men and not some little boy in his tight, Super costume on some narcissistic jaunt to resolve his issues with Daddy or Uncle Ben. It’s real. It’s our world.

Some other cool things – Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut made me laugh and wanting more. Minor spoiler: they found a way to include “I’m the Juggernaut, bitch!” I was the only one who got it but it was pretty cool. Storm finally gets to kick some non-Toad ass and fly like Storm is supposed to. Pyro goes full Firestarter in this one at least 5 times. Mystique’s scenes were great. Rebecca Romjin-Stamos-O’Connell embodies this character. There is a moment where she is naked and non-blue that I will be CSI-analyzing, frame-by-frame on the DVD. That said, like Xavier and Logan going at it, I was shocked to see her and Magneto diverge in this film. On a scene-by-scene basis, I was always wondering where the story was going to twist next. Good stuff.

Last thing - if this is anyone’s movie, its McKellen’s. Like Pacino’s evolution from loveable villain in Godfather 1 to ice-cold, tactician in GF2, McKellen plays Magneto as the driven, ruthless man with a cause that Magneto has always been in the comics but hadn’t really been in x1 & x2. In x3, Magneto finally has his lightening rod with this cure and is willing to take it ALL the way, even as people close to him fall by the wayside. The best part of it, like every great villain, he actually has a real point about the cure. I stayed afterwards with several of the other people from the screening and we argued for a while about whether or not we agreed with him or not. How often does that happen?

Well, that’s it. Overall, damn impressed. I gotta hand it to the Rat. He made a film that really delivers. Hell, I might even give Rush Hour 3 a chance. Nah. Just kidding. Besides, I hear Singer is taking over on that one (spoiler: Jackie and Chris finally admit their true feelings in: Rushback Mountain).

Peace out.

MutantCamel

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  • May 10, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    X3

    by StrongBad8782

    Oh great, another X-Men movie that TNT can play every Tuesday night in full-screen.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I'm hoping it rules

    by Bean_

    But... it doesn't look that way to me. But we'll see won't we?

  • May 10, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

    by drew mcweeny

    Please don't be a plant. Please don't be a plant. Please don't be a plant.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Pfff...I don't know...

    by DerLanghaarige

    I'm still gonna see it, but with low expectations. I guess you all know what I'm talking about. And I'm the last one who wants to scream "Plant!" on this review, but you have to admitt, that the plant-factor could be very high on X3 :(

  • May 10, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    maybe not a plant, but he should apply for the job...

    by Sherman_Lives

    I tuned out when I read "What the Rat does really well is take the intensity to the next level." That smacks of focus-grouping demography. Am I wrong? And I'm not even going to attempt to claim first place at this point.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Here's a dilema for you AICNers...

    by Bean_

    My prom is May 26, do I go or do I go to the X3 opening? I all ready know my answer, but I'm curious to see what you other guys would do... :P

  • May 10, 2006, 10:07 p.m. CST

    And yeah I have to say..

    by Bean_

    This sounded awfully like a plant to me, either that or the guy was really REALLY excited about this movie.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:08 p.m. CST

    P.S.:

    by DerLanghaarige

    It's 5 a.m. where I am *yawn*. Sorry, Off Topic.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    more buzzwords

    by Sherman_Lives

    Does the Rat think outside the box? Does he push the edge of the envelope with raw, fresh, edgy realness? And the spoiler is that iceman totally ices over. They show that in the commercial.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Harry why?.....

    by meta4

    Why did you completely have a turn around once this review hit? i mean for the entire x-3 developement you've been against Rothman and Ratner. You commented on Ratners choice to overload x-3 with mutants (namely stacey-x) and now your saying this movie is gonna be good? cmon man grow a set of balls and stand by your decision....has the mighty fallen? i think so....

  • May 10, 2006, 10:12 p.m. CST

    well, hopefully this is legit

    by keyserSOZE

    but when people are seemingly TRYING to sound "hip" or "cool" or whatever this dude was trying to do, it's almost like someone was studying previous AICN reviews and is, in fact, a PLANT. i'm not convinced that it is, but i'm suspicious.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Wha??

    by jackinitraw

    First an AICN staff member recounts a review and now Brett Ratface makes a great movie? If Harry turns vegetarian tomorrow I'm officially moving into a bomb shelter and praying the impending infero the anti-christ brings doesn't find me.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:13 p.m. CST

    hey Bean_...

    by keyserSOZE

    it's an easy decision for you. you're an AICN nerd, of course you don't even have a date for prom, go to the movie. ha...well, damnit, it was a joke that had to be made...and i'm JUST the guy to make it. ahem, carry on with the cries of "PLANT!"

  • May 10, 2006, 10:14 p.m. CST

    hey bean!

    by IamNumber1

    FUCK YO' PROM NIGGA!! FUCK. YO. PROM! Proms suck just like high school sucks. X3 might actually be good.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Wishful thinking, but...

    by Godardwhowhatnow

    This is the most obvious plant I've ever seen. And I've read the entire National Geographic illustrated gardener series.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:18 p.m. CST

    I've heard this was terrible from an assistant editor

    by zikade zarathos

    and this guy writes like a plant. So don't get yer hopes up yet, folks.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I'll see it because I've invested so much energy not to

    by DOGSOUP

    ...But if it sucks, I'll NEVER shut up about how badly. EVER. Brett Ratner will be the equivilent of the guy who licks Uwe Boll's bedpan nightly. I love the X-Men and if he fucks it up His name will forever be synonymous with Ultimate Suck. That is all.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Didn't read the spoilers but I am not surprised.

    by Cotton McKnight

    I'm really not. Ratner is a pretty dang good director and I thought he would be able to pick this up and turn it into something good. Read Ebert's review of "Red Dragon" because he glows about Ratner in that- and it's the exact same situation to boot. Known commodity, existing franchise.. would he screw it up? Nope. So there you go.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Wow Harry...

    by ExtryShiny

    backpedaling already? This might be an AICN record. Seriously, I think we all hope for an excellent film here. One thing I've gleaned from Ratner's films is just how much of a film fan and historian he really is. You can tell from his commentaries that he has done his homework and is working to find his voice in the industry. You can't fault him for that.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Langhaariger...

    by ManOfStool

    Ich weiss genau, was Du meinst. Bin auch m

  • May 10, 2006, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Plus it can't be as bad as Fantastic 4.

    by Cotton McKnight

    I'm setting the bar pretty low there but you know what I mean.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:26 p.m. CST

    hopefully no plant, but the first half sounds like one

    by Freakemovie

    "...Takes it to the next level"..."ain't your momma's x-men movie"...refuting his own complaints...but then again, he does make fun of Rush Hour at the end. So who knows. I know a guy who's seeing a screening this week so I'll at least get one genuine opinion. Really hoping this one's good.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:26 p.m. CST

    But will there be any advance press screenings?

    by Antz

    That is normally the biggest giveaway if it is going to suck. And Bean... do both. It's not like there won't be a screening every half hour.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:27 p.m. CST

    I'll Give It A Shot

    by ShogunMaster

    I'm not expecting too much from this movie at all anyway But hell, I was surprised at how good MI:III was; even though it goes against the 'Anti-Cruise Movement' (TM) to say that. And btw, can I say that I'm one of the few people out there that doesn't seem to give a flying crap about the Davinci Code? You can't step past an electronic appliance without seeing an ad for that hypefest. At least X3 isn't in your face with all the blitzing brainwashing. Oh well, here's hoping that this one doesn't lick..

  • May 10, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Mow, for you yanks, some German that you understand...

    by ManOfStool

    KINDERGARTEN! GESUNDHEIT! APFELSTRUDEL! LEDERHOSEN! ZEITGEIST! JACK FUCKING BAUER!!!

  • May 10, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I could smoke this reviewer and get really high

    by Dataset

    Because, you know, he's a plant and all. Ahem. Uhhh. LOOK! Over there! It's Chris Claremont with a big stick!

  • May 10, 2006, 10:31 p.m. CST

    I meant to write "Now..."

    by ManOfStool

    Zorry! Eenglish eesa difficult!

  • May 10, 2006, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Brett Ratner

    by OhDaesu

    Nice job writing this review.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST

    After careful analysis

    by ghj

    This guy's got nearly perfect syntax, yet he doesn't bother to cap the "x" in "x2"? Feels like the type of thing you throw in to make yourself seem like a dumbass "real person" rather than a PR guy. MutantCamel, if you are a real person ... sorry, but you had to know this was coming.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:41 p.m. CST

    I have to say....

    by jollysleeve

    I often think the people that are always crying, "Plant!" on this site, are generally a little paranoid. Still, that review seemed kind of fake to me. Maybe it was just the fact that Harry planted the seed of possibility in his intro made me approach this article from that mindset. But still, very planty, this review.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:41 p.m. CST

    PLANT!!!

    by HyperKnight

    This is so fake. It's apparent that this is only someone who has watched the trailer many times and has a not so clever imagination.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:46 p.m. CST

    I just read the review more carefully

    by jollysleeve

    And I'd like to amend my first post. Instead of, "that review seemed a little fake to me," I should've said, "that review seemed INSANELY fake to me."

  • May 10, 2006, 10:48 p.m. CST

    holy plant, robin!

    by georges garvaren

    shit. i meant batman. well there goes my cred. and! this may be all true but this reviewer, much like my ficus, is planted. its simply written too well. im not saying its well written tho...a regular ol' chump like the you's and me's that write here, well we're too dim to articulate our feelings on the cinematic brillance thats is a movie based on the drawn pictures but be it plant or no plant, it sure does sound nifty. i may have just been sold snake oil but im going to drink it none-the-less. also, go edmonton.

  • May 10, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Don't be hatin' on Spidey reviewer...

    by gopher

    ...because Spider-Man 2 left both X-Men films in the dust. X3? Fuck it, I'll be lining up to see the TRAILER for SM3. Oh, and someone get that reviewer some fertilizer cuz he's a PLANT!!!

  • May 10, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    First couple of lines.

    by BenFerris

    Its a plant, because it started off way too strong, and way too cocky. If it was real, it would be somebody that equally felt worried, then was surprised. This person is either retarded, or working for the Rat(ner).

  • May 10, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST

    It pains me to say it...

    by Theta

    But, yeah, plant. Nothing we've seen would indicate this level of enthusiasm. I don't think it's going to completely suck at this point, but I'm starting to suspect we've got a T3 scenario on our hands.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:02 p.m. CST

    I hope it's good. It looks better than

    by superninja

    Superman Returns to me. But then again, it would also take a REAL special kind of person to screw up the formula at this point.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:02 p.m. CST

    +1

    by topaz4206

    One more vote for the plant. Shit, they've been writing these plants for 5 years and they still can't figure out how to sound like human beings? Assholes.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    People cry Plant, I cry "Harry Is A Blowhard."

    by Silverblade11975

    Plant or not, I'm still seeing X3. With that said, I'm simply amazed at how quick Harry pulled a 180 on X3. From the blackout on X3 news, to his bashing of Rothman and Ratner, deserved or not, it just goes to prove what little credibility Harry has. What takes it a step further is how he nearly admits to it at the beginning of this review. When he went on a diatribe about hearing from "people on a project", "folks that disagree with the direction", blah blah blah... It just goes to prove that he doesn't form his own opinion based on results he's seen, he bases his opinions on second hand information and gossip. It doesn't matter anyways, I don't put stock in the opinions of "critics" or anyone else. I form my opinions based on my own experience and exposure. X3 will be memorable, one way or another, and I'm there opening night like I was for the previous two movies. Honoris Causa... Silverblade

  • May 10, 2006, 11:06 p.m. CST

    harry must be from austin

    by isildur29

    because everyone HERE are fair weather fans its a UT state of mind. All austinites do is rip everything around them or talk about how bad things are but BOOM the second they get a chance to brag on it they are suddenly the #1 supporters. For my notes see: Harry on X3, 75% of UT fans the past 5 years...etc.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Even if he's not a plant

    by MrD

    He could be a vegetable. Who knows where this guy's brains are at. Like the rest of you, I'd LOVE him to be right, but then I know some people who gave good reviews to Tomb Raider.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:08 p.m. CST

    It's been a while, Man of Stool...

    by DerLanghaarige

    Warst du weg, nur im Hintergrund oder hab ich dich einfach

  • May 10, 2006, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Papa Lima Alpha November Tango, Over!

    by SG7

    Seriously folks. It reads like a marketing guy wrote it.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Reasons why this is a plant or a fraud:

    by KCMOSHer

    1. No mention of BCD's in detail. (Big Character Deaths) A non-plant would have -no- problem at least -referencing- them, since it's pretty common frickin' knowledge they happen, and have been the PRIMARY complaint many (including me) have had with this movie. Fuck Ratner, fuck Beast, if you have an X-Men movie where you whack Xavier, Magneto, Cyclops, and supposedly more major X-Men staples, you have a failure. You don't get the source material, and you show absolute contempt for forty-odd years of comic history. (A mistake the second film didn't make.) 2. No specifics. Man, those were some spoilers! Everything he mentions happens in the TRAILER or can be derived from it. Oh, there's a love triangle with Bobby, Rogue, and Kitty? Never would have guessed, what with that scene in the trailer. All he basically says is 'there's lots of teh fighting and stuff and its sooo kewl you'. 3. Does anyone, ANYONE actually think there's even the smallest chance that this film, with this schedule, with this script, with this director, has even the tiniest microscopic chance of not being absolute shit? Yeah, didn't think so. Planty McPlanterson or Fakey McFakerson.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    At least this doesn't have Tom Cruise in it.

    by veritasses

    If the above review true, it seems like at the very least the concept for the movie is good. But the "fastball" clip that was linked from here seems to indicate that they screwed up on execution. The action in that clip (particularly the "fastball") was horrible. Poorly acted, poorly directed, bad editing, bad lighting etc. Heck, the action scenes from the Shazam/Isis tv show were better.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    So, the tree said to the flower...

    by The Shyster

    you're a plant.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    PLANT!!!! LIKE A BITCH!!!

    by Doc_Strange

    Damn the studios are trying HARD to get us into overpriced cinema houses this year.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Rush Hour 2 was good.

    by Gay Jesus Christ

    that and the first 15 minutes of Money Talks. everything else Ratner has done is pretty bad. He's like the M. Night Shymalan of Buddy movies.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:20 p.m. CST

    What Moriarty Said

    by Plum

    This review smelled kinda plantish, even to me. (And I'm really naive.) But that won't stop me from hoping. If the film is going to have incredibly stupid plot points, please let them be well-executed.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:23 p.m. CST

    No word on Cyclops?

    by Terry_1978

    Aside from him going nutty? That's like the main theme of many a message board, whether he lives or dies, if he has a larger role in saving Jean towards the end, does he actually do some team leading, etc.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:24 p.m. CST

    "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"

    by MattCG

    Even though I found it funny to watch on the internet, I was just joking around with by friend when I said, "Watch that fuckass Ratner put that in the new movie." I'm still kinda hopeful, but everything is telling me this is going to be 100% ass.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:30 p.m. CST

    It'll have a big opening

    by movieman742

    then an even bigger dropoff once everyone sees what crap it is. Colossus was the best part of x2 and he was in it all of 2 seconds. Only reason I'm seeing 3 is becuase he's in it for more than 2 seconds.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    BELIEVE ME...

    by hollywoodsummers

    This is a total plant... I know someone working on it that says it's SHITTE!!!

  • May 10, 2006, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Stayed after and argued whether Magneto was right?!!

    by RetroActive

    Not only a plant...but a dork plant! Trying so hard to sound like a "fan", by arguing the points of the film with fellow hardcore geeks in the theatre? So made up it's stupid.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:49 p.m. CST

    it's not a plant, it's a fucking red wood tree!

    by PMK

    Honestly, if you can't see through the spin in this "review" then you need your reviewer card revoked. Notice how the only "bad" thing in his review is a scene that's been on-line already and generally panned by everyone. So they chose the ONE bad scene in the ENTIRE movie to show on Jay Leno? Likely?

  • May 10, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST

    thanks for the davinci code spoiler, Harry

    by white owl

    I've managed to make it this far without reading the book, watching any t.v. specials and davinci-related talkbacks or information.. i figured it out for myself now. jesus has a bloodlin and the grail is a figurative term for mary magdalene's womb. screw you harry for not removing that little bit of info. MOVIE RUINED!!!!

  • May 10, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    This ain't.....

    by HK_Cavalier

    This ain't your Mama's X-Men? WTF??? That is the writing of a plant, for sure.

  • May 10, 2006, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Man, I hope this is true.

    by Psyclops

    Nothing would please me more than to walk out of X3 and not be disappointed. The first time I discovered this site was during the production of the first X-Men and I must have followed every bit of news that leaked on the internet until the film was released. I enjoyed the first movie, was totally blown away by the second film and was really hoping the third one would live up to it's previous installments. The "Danger Room" footage had me a bit worried but some of the stuff they've shown on the TV spots and trailers have me ready to see this right now.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:01 a.m. CST

    TopHat

    by HK_Cavalier

    Oh, you are completely right. They dribble so little in the realm of fantasy/sci-fi into the theatres that I'm willing to forgive shit like Krull. This one'll be easy.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:04 a.m. CST

    This is the biggest plant to ever plant a plant!!!

    by Rant Breath

    The sad part is he didn't even try to hide the fact that he's a plant. The studios must really be getting lazy.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:05 a.m. CST

    You can tell how bad a movie is...

    by Gay Jesus Christ

    by it's toys. Superman Returns has the worst toys in the world!!!! go to Toys R Us and check out those awful Maroon colored pieces of crap.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:09 a.m. CST

    What toys aren't pieces of crap these days?

    by superninja

  • May 11, 2006, 12:11 a.m. CST

    if we love it, chances are it won't be a piece of crap

    by Freakemovie

    nice logic though

  • May 11, 2006, 12:15 a.m. CST

    By definition it can't "rock" if it kills off ...

    by Rupee88

    ...the two main characters. I won't post a spoiler here, but it is just inexecusable to kill the franchise like this.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:16 a.m. CST

    by Mr Staypuft

    dfg

  • May 11, 2006, 12:24 a.m. CST

    How many plants could a plant planter plant...

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    ...if a plant planter could plant plants. Nobody's buyin' it Mr. Planty McPlantington from Plantingpants Plaza.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Commercials look horrible, but it has Sentinels I think

    by andrew coleman

    The battle scenes look really craptacular but it looks fun and since June looks dead movie wise.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST

    I agree, He is trying to sound hip and cool

    by Rcamacho2278

    Like a date with paris hilton. LOL so original,

  • May 11, 2006, 12:28 a.m. CST

    no need to diss spiderman

    by tHEmOOG

    other than that i'd like to see more reviews like this i like the way he writes

  • May 11, 2006, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Maybe a plant, but more likely just a fraud...

    by paralyser-pro

    I think it's just some bozo taking us for a ride. But now, I want to level on the stuff with character deaths. People die in comics all the time. The beauty is that they don't have to stay dead because it's a comic. And more specifically, X-men characters have been known to die and then respawn faster than Ms. Pacman on GHB. So don't get your knickers in a twist over a few character deaths, because they'll all be alive and kicking in Australia by the next flick...

  • May 11, 2006, 12:32 a.m. CST

    JUNE being "dead" movie time

    by isildur29

    no way...Cars will make ALOT of money just like every other animated family movie does and I think (after what 40 year old and wedding crashers did last year) Nacho Libre and The Break Up will really rake in some cash

  • May 11, 2006, 12:45 a.m. CST

    So if he said it suck you'd all jump on board, Pathetic

    by The Founder

    Don't know if the guy is a plant or not, but i doubt FOX is going to waste time trying to appease AICN when all the site has done is bash the movie to high hell. Even though the review is positive and even if it's real it's from his perspective. I'm still not sold, because Simon Kinberg just hasn't impressed me with anything and Zak Penn hasn't got me sold.

  • May 11, 2006, 1 a.m. CST

    You know,

    by Harry Weinstein

    ...after Fantastic Four did as well as it did, I don't think it matters if this is good or not. It'll clean up regardless.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Wha-huh?

    by kintar0

    Pyro "goes Firestarter" in this one? Because he wasn't a pyropath in the comics or previous films. He's always been a pyrokinetic. Can't generate his own flame. Is he Rusty now? Where's Skids? And Storm fucking spins around like a tornado and punches bad guys. That sounds stupid and looks even stupider. But I did just see Iceman all iced up like the comics in a commercial that I just saw, seconds before I post this. And that's cool.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:12 a.m. CST

    At least Halle gets her screen time

    by Rupee88

    That talentless c*nt was never good in the role to begin with, but she's a diva so we'll have to suffer even more of her in this film. Anyway, any of you who pay to see this deserve what you get. Watching it via "discounted" download is acceptable, but don't support the production of shitty movies with your hard-earned money.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:15 a.m. CST

    so does gambit have a cameo or what.

    by McLuvin

    cause that's all i've wanted for the last 3 movies

  • May 11, 2006, 1:16 a.m. CST

    it is indeed a plant

    by young1

    His only critism is of the previous films not of this one.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Certainly smells like a plant

    by busby

    But I really hope not, Singers films were good but not great this sounds as though it may be great. I still think Returns will piss all over this at the box office though

  • May 11, 2006, 1:28 a.m. CST

    We're gettin the "Fatal Attractions" Mags/Wolvie fight?

    by Shermdawg

    Ok, my hopes for this one being good have slighty elevated. Buuuuut... *SPOILER* If Jean is all Phoenixy, who will help keep Logan's body together after you-know-what happens?

  • May 11, 2006, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Total plant.

    by DocPazuzu

    Every plant in the universe starts a review by saying "A friend managed to get me in at the last minute" or "a buddy of mine with connections snuck me into an insider screening." This guy -- because he's a paid plant -- can't manage to say ANYTHING negative about the film and at worst talks about things "kind of" working. Special emphasis is also laid on lauding the aspects which have been criticized by geeks, EXCEPT the Danger Room sequence which they know can't be spun for people who saw the clip on TV and hated it. One of the biggest giveaways was the fact that virtually NOTHING good was said about the previous two films. Whenever the change to a person's character in X3 was discussed, it was favorably compared to the characters previous incarnations. The most pathetic giveaway was using geekspeak terms like "The Rat", and saying ingratiating things like "they may call it The Last Stand but we all really know it's X3". Words and phrases like that being launched from the mouths of plants always comes across like George Bush using Big Words during press conferences and then smirking like he: 1) thinks he's got us fooled into believing that he knows what the fuck is going on, and 2) that he thinks we're impressed by the fact that he can pronounce three-syllable words like "productive" or "discussion". FOX, you may want to do some overhauls and a reimagining or two in your anthropology department because your plants are definitely NOT "going native" as much as you apparently think they are -- that is, unless you're hoping to make a documentary film called "Geek Man" in which hilariously na

  • May 11, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    i really, really hope this dude ain't a plant

    by reckni

    It'll be such a bitter disappointment if they drop the ball. The Dark Phoenix story is legendary, and to fuck that up would be catastrophic. It would be cause to castrate Ratner and the writers.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    hey McLuvin

    by castaway

    They had wanted Gambit but had to cut the idea because of constraints. They had wanted to use Josh Holloway from the tv show Lost as the ragin' Cajun.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Not a plant...but a very bored person...

    by ribbitking

    wanted to see how far a completely BS review could get on AICN. Shame on anyone who gave it credit....

  • May 11, 2006, 1:49 a.m. CST

    The Sentinel Head?!?! Remember???

    by iamghetto

    That looked like absolute crap, as did wolverine getting thrown through the air. It looked like some robot fighting scene from some $3 bootleg chinese Chinatown flick.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Abondon hope all ye who enter here--it's Foliage

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    And the good Doctor took the time to point out great, glaring reasons why this review smells and photosynthesizes like a pond full of algae. I would suggest future plants take heed...but you never do, do you, plants. I guess I wouldn't expect you to learn from your mistakes seeing as you don't even have a rudimentary nervous system to speak of. This is not to say, however, that an authentic review won't turn up with possibly good news on X3 in the future.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Rat my nuts pal!

    by Cumlauncher

    I am so sick of asshole board posters who use nicknames for director's like their fucking thursday night poker buddies. "The Rat totally keeps Sing's franchise alive!" "Spielsy knows better than to make a movie about an israeli conflict." "I hope Marty is over his Gangs of New York phase and back in Goodfellas territory." And last but not least, his name is Wolfgang Petersen! Got that? Not "THE GANG!" FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 11, 2006, 1:59 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu - AGREED

    by iamghetto

    The only thing that's missing is some obsecure reference to a specific issue of an x-men comic. Total gay. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= " immediately grabs you with two really surprising prologues." Really? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= " This isn

  • May 11, 2006, 2:01 a.m. CST

    THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH HARRY!

    by teddanson37

    for posting something positive about X3. you have redeemed yourself.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:12 a.m. CST

    now i've actually read it.

    by teddanson37

    i hope it's not a plant. cuz it sounds too good to be true. it's all i ever wanted, a great x-men movie that you can walk away from having the innner-geek fulfilled.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST

    At the core of this story are the two big brains...

    by WannaBePoser

  • May 11, 2006, 2:45 a.m. CST

    X and Mags playing a game of chess with the mutants...

    by WannaBePoser

    ...as their playing pieces. If done correctly, this could be a very cool concept brought to life.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    It appears that only bad reviews will be legit here.

    by The Founder

    While the guy may be a plant it's also possiable he may not be. I just think it's funny that after months of bashing this film all the haters are rooting for it to fail so they can pat themselves on the back and smirk with glee. Which is why any review that is positive is going to be labled a plant and when harry reviews it and says it's good they are going to scream that FOX has paid harry off. it's a no win situation. Any review that says it stinks will be greeted as gospel.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:51 a.m. CST

    That was a well written review

    by WannaBePoser

  • May 11, 2006, 2:52 a.m. CST

    "Rushback Mountain" - yeah, hilarious. Comedy gold.

    by Laserbrain

    "Rushback Mountain", Superman's "tight little costume", the "'on the nose' (no it wasn't) coming out scene from X2"--- all typically irrelevant and covertly hateful comments relating to Singer's homosexuality that seem to have become the shameful, adolescent norm on the AICN talkbacks. I don't give a flaming shit whether Singer prefers the pole or the hole. So long as the dude is making kick-ass hetero-friendly movie fare (like X2) than why the fuck should anyone care? _______I don't really have high hopes for X3 (or Superman either, it looks to be a self-conscious misfire) but I'll judge them on their respective merits not by which way their authors swing.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Huh? Wha..!?

    by samsquanch

    I'm flabbergasted. AICN is aknowledging the existence of the third X-Men movie. In a positive way. I don't even care if it is a plant, I didn't read the spoiler section. One thing though- not to sound petulant, but this doesn't redeem Harry or this site. I think the only reason this 'review' exists is because there's been such a raging demand for X3 coverage of any kind. The glaring omission was getting too intense, and the AICN staff have caved under pressure, to placate the fans. It smells desperate. Every time I come here now I wonder if I'm going to be conned. It's too bad, the best thing about this site is the talkbacks, and I can't really find that anywhere else, at least in this format. Not that anyone gives two shits, but I think I might be done here for a good long while.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:59 a.m. CST

    What the hell happened to NIGHTCRAWLER?

    by My Ass Smells

    Where did he go?

  • May 11, 2006, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Hey Bean_ if you can go with...

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    someone you care about, or even if it's just with a group of friends, go man, go to your prom. You'll still have fun, even if you hate your high school (unless it's the midwestern or southern crazy redneck-style highschool, of which I have no experience with). Anyhoo, bring on X3 bitches!

  • May 11, 2006, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Nothing here you couldn't work out from the trailers...

    by Steve Rogers

    ...or from the TV spots and interviews that have been put up on the web. The guy doesn't come up with any decent info whatsoever - like does Professor X die? Do they kill off Cyclops for the whole movie? I SMELL A PLANT. Or just bullshit.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:21 a.m. CST

    All plants read the same

    by BendersShinyAss

    The real reviews aren't so bloody "I don't want to ruin the ending, but it'll rock" and "Wait til you see this part..." and "Oh my God, I can't believe what I just saw." I know what your thinking, that doesn't ness mean it's a plant. YES IT DOES!!!

  • May 11, 2006, 3:24 a.m. CST

    I want to be a plant

    by antonphd

    Whoever this was they didn't do a very good job of hiding the fact that they are a plant. #1 Obvious Clue: every piece of visual that we have actually seen for ourselves is mentioned and either defended/excused or dismissed. As soon as I read that the danger room was a disappointment but that the rest of the movie(which we haven't seen) rocks, it was certain this was a plant. - Now, I can offer much higher quality plant services at much lower prices. Hell, get me an HD projector with an XBox 360 and a hot tub and I'll work for forever for free after that.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:42 a.m. CST

    antonphd

    by DocPazuzu

    That's exactly what I don't get about studio plant strategy. Why pay some de-souled, cretinous, studio asshat who speaks pidgin geek to "review" movies and sign them with nicks which just happen to tie in with said movies ("MutantCamel?" Fuck off!), when they could just fucking HIRE a frequent and highly visible talkbacker for the very price you just mentioned. The incompetence, condescension and sheer stupidity is simply staggering.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:44 a.m. CST

    youve got to give him credit

    by calami-shami

    for actually working in a dis for another movie thats coming out around the same time and is the only sure fire blockbuster this summer and threatens to steal some cash away from his masters. "Shyeeaaahhh Jean goes all fuckin Jesus and shit Wassuuuupppp?" I felt like an ad exec was talking to me over my shoulder. "Uh what demographic are you? I want to be sure I use the right lingo for you people." COnfirming the danger room scene as shit proves this movie will suck. If they couldn't get that right, probably the simpelest, no-brainer scene of them all then this is doomed. I really doubt that every other moment in this film just happens to not look like that much shit. "Its cool, uh, yo. The Rat was just suckin some blow off his bitches tits that day. That's how he roles, uh ... POPOZOI!" FUck You and the FOX executive whose dick you rode in on.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:52 a.m. CST

    The best part...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...about this "review" and talkback is that FOX can't threaten legal action and have it pulled like the AvP2 script review, so they're just going to have to sit there in their own feces and sweat while their latest Wile E. Planty gets ass-reamed by his own misfired ACME spin rocket.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:01 a.m. CST

    Fantastic four left such a bad taste in my brain....

    by simongarth2001

    that now I do not trust ANY new Marvel film. I hope this is good....but I really am not buying it yet.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Pla...!

    by SalvatoreGravano

    ...XP? 98? No, wait - it was "NT". It's about those "X men", so I shouldn't even care... but since I abhor Brett Ratt for soiling the memory of Manhunter and Red Dragon with the ratt excrement that he produced... May it really be a plant.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:43 a.m. CST

    wow take this blatant fake off the site

    by Krazy Eyez Killa

    you would have to literally be mentally retarded to not recognize this propoganda horseshit for what it is. Whether or not X3 is a good movie is irrelevant, it very well might be good, but AICN has been duped again and put an obvious plant on its front page. LOL@"the Rat". give me a fucking break.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST

    oh yeah and nice job to the plant

    by Krazy Eyez Killa

    on dissing the two biggest competing films of the summer, very subtle

  • May 11, 2006, 5:18 a.m. CST

    65% of the time talkbackers are right ALL the time

    by Rcamacho2278

    so if we say it sucks, it does.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:04 a.m. CST

    maybe not a plant

    by stvnhthr

    But sure sounds like one. He did not give any major spoilers and did not say what he did not like about the film-2 common practices for plants.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:09 a.m. CST

    dem bones

    by vicious_bastard

    If that endo-skelington scene is anything like what I have in my head...Oh boy.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Plant or no plant. If it ends how he says it will. OMG.

    by Shermdawg

    If you-know-what happens like it did in the comics, it's gonna be pretty hardcore, or at least it should be. I gotta say though, if you-know-what does indeed happen, it's probably bad news for the spinoff, because they will probably send you-know-who, on a quest to get his you-know-what back, instead of giving us that epic battle against a certain foreign crime syndicate you-know-where.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:50 a.m. CST

    "I was the only one who got it "

    by Trazadone

    Oh you're just so cool! Nerd.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:52 a.m. CST

    stvnhthr, I'd call you-know-what a major spoiler!

    by Shermdawg

  • May 11, 2006, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Hate to say this: Plant

    by zerogundamx

    A very similiar review is up at IMDB and we completely discredited him, but I truely hope X-Men 3 is awesome.

  • May 11, 2006, 7:53 a.m. CST

    I've disagreed with Harry in the past...

    by beefywhore

    God knows I will never forget his positive (and later when his readers voiced their opinions, negative) review of Godzilla. And in his intro to this review he all-but says "Guys, this is a review written by a plant." But in this case I've got to agree...This review feels like it was written by Brett Ratners secretary...Fuck FOX for thinking the fans are that dumb.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:01 a.m. CST

    'The body count is f*ing amazing'

    by Celtican

    One of the most stupid things I've ever read.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:02 a.m. CST

    X4 - The Search for Cyclops

    by zerogundamx

    He's a goner guys, it's time to accept it.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Well, wouldn't be the first time Fox has used plants

    by Ribbons

    Not saying this guy is one, just that it wouldn't surprise me if he was. "LXG" ring any bells? How about all those hideously fake reviews for 'Fantastic Four' on IMDb last year?

  • May 11, 2006, 8:14 a.m. CST

    It just looks bad...

    by chaplinatemyshoe

    Let's face it. Cyclops and Storm have been miscast and mishandled from the start. The first one was too short, the second one too long, and the third one is directed by Brett Ratner. Come on. Has that guy done anything in his career that makes you think he won't Michael Bay the hell out of this movie? Even the review fails to make this movie seem like anything more than a namechecking, overbloated crapfest. The effects look cheesy, the characters are shallow, the saturday morning cartoon will sadly prove superior at the end of the day.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST

    This ain't a plant....

    by Mickey The Idiot

    ....it's a fucking weed. Get it sprayed, Harry.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Wolvie's skeleton

    by TheDoctor73

    If they do an X-Men #25/Fatal Attractions Storyline and Wolvie loses his metal - while still retaining his bone claws - that'd be cool. If they end up killing Wolvie because of it, I'd be pissed.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:37 a.m. CST

    "yes, a young X & M...

    by beefywhore

    "yes, a young X & M. I still don

  • May 11, 2006, 8:51 a.m. CST

    the one thing missing from this review:

    by smackfu

    "Did Wolverine go there? Oh yeah, he went there, to the MAX. Snap!!"

  • May 11, 2006, 8:54 a.m. CST

    can u say plant?

    by ZO

    yes

  • May 11, 2006, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Plant, or not plant

    by Chilli815

    The film sounds worse from this review than it did already.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Yes, Agent Orange this muthafucka

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    And DocPazuzu, your Wile E. Planty post was sublime. I'm now sitting here laughing heartily and rubbing my hands together in villainish glee. Just not a lot of sympathy for Team Fox after what they're doing to AvP. Oh, and please don't send this guy to do any Narc work.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:23 a.m. CST

    This isn't a plant. It's a tree.

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Are you kiddin' me? You can pretty much tell by the first paragraph alone. But, this guy also managed to work in a Paris Hilton and Dennis Miller reference!!! Come on! You had us at "Hey guys."

  • May 11, 2006, 9:28 a.m. CST

    PLANT PLANT PLANT PLANT

    by Snookeroo

    I couldn't make it through the second paragraph for all the vines.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Snookeroo, MNG

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    After I read "This is all-out WARRR" I needed a machete and a day's supply of food and water to wade through this thing.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Plant?

    by AmirReza

    I prefer the world Shill. Plant is too soft a word.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page Is Beautiful

    by ZombieSolutions

    i'm waaay too olde for her, but, she's going to be one to watch. an amazing little actress, and absolutely beautiful. go see 'Hard Candy' and tell me i'm wrong. i can't wait to see her as Kitty Pryde.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:51 a.m. CST

    beefywhore

    by Cameron1

    According to McKellen it is actually himself and Stewart, they shot it in soft focus with prostheitcs and some cgi effects to make them look younger.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:54 a.m. CST

    This is such a poorly PLANTED review but he tried hard

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    props for effort but it's still too well written Mr Junior Exec. Even the spelling mistakes were calculated. Still I hope this film will be good and since I don't ask too much from my comicbook films except that they not be boring or stupid or sucky (all of which Superman Returns will have in spades) and since I actually enjoyed Fantastic Four and got half way through AVP the other night before I had to turn it off I have to say I am pretty forgiving. Plus I never like the X-Men characters or the F4 in their comic incarnations so I have no childhood memories to be raped by Brett "I'm a cocktard watch me throw this Superman statue at the wall to prove how cool I am" Rat(fuck)ner. I'm looking forward to this and Ghost Rider to be mildly entertaining if somewhat shambolic and undercooked lite entertainment. Don't get me wrong I do expect more from my films but ever since May 1999 I've learned to brace for the bitter sting of disappointment.

  • May 11, 2006, 10:10 a.m. CST

    *Cut Scene* - FOX Boardroom

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    "Uh, sir? We've got another problem." - "What is it now, Philbrick?" - "It looks like the same yahoos from the AICN Talkbacks who trounced our AvPII script...well sir...they're onto us and they've smoked out our X3 Plant." - "DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!! Call Marketing. Find out who this Plant was and have his ass shipped to the mailroom! And somebody get Ratner on the line! I want to know if we have a Class 5 Franchise Hemorrhage in the can right now!!!"

  • May 11, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    This review can light up Chicago...

    by Lost Skeleton

    ...cuz its a Power Plant. The dig at The Davinci Code was a tell tell sign

  • May 11, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST

    The review is fake.

    by The_Comedian

    A user on Superherohype has just admitted to posting this review as a prank.

  • May 11, 2006, 10:51 a.m. CST

    The_Comedian

    by teddanson37

    who did? where at? and most importantly what did they say?

  • May 11, 2006, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Although this IS a plant..

    by zerogundamx

    I'm glad to actually see some more great coverage that I was used to. Keep it up guys.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Lame. This film will be Superman 3 lame.

    by Reelheed

    so see you for xmen return in 20yrs when someone just goes "forget that shit lets pickup from x2"?

  • May 11, 2006, 11:30 a.m. CST

    teddanson37

    by The_Comedian

    superherohype.com's x-men boards, the thread has been deleted because the review is fake, the user's name is Jokernick

  • May 11, 2006, 11:30 a.m. CST

    continued

    by The_Comedian

    He basically said he wrote the review.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    what a corny review.... I don't believe it.

    by Russman

  • May 11, 2006, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Okay, so it's as fake as that Superman Returns

    by Russman

    review that Harry posted.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Welcome to Planet PLANT

    by Screaming Brain

    What a bunch of horseshit. Can't you screen mysterious "reviews" a little better?

  • May 11, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Mancow saw it and said it was ok...

    by StudioPlant69

    He wasn't raving about it, he said MI3 was better. For a minute there I thought I was reading a review by Harry. But I knew it couldn't be cause there was no mention of his girlfriend... gfy

  • May 11, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    is it so wrong...

    by teddanson37

    to hope it's not a fake? i'm trying my best to believe it's for real. deep down...i know...the truth.

  • May 11, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Plant vs. Weed ?

    by Snuffles

    So a "Plant" is a studio plant. A "weed" would be a prank fake review, cobbled from rumors and trailers?

  • May 11, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST

    RE: Here's a dilema for you AICNers...

    by masterchappy

    Forget prom; your date is going to be a dick tease and will leave you with blue balls. You will wind up going home, whacking off over the Sears catalog and have your mom walk in on you as you shoot your load into that well loved gym sock you have. Forget X3 too. This is a PLANT review and from what&#39;s been seen so far, I&#39;d have to say X3 is going to suck ass like a dog licking a fat chick&#39;s behind covered in peanut buuter. I suggest you go get yourself a couple of 40s of Colt 45 and a $5 hooker and have yourself a damn fine time in the back of a VW. Rubber gloves are optional of course but highly recommended. >>My prom is May 26, do I go or do I go to the X3 opening? I all ready know my answer, but I&#39;m curious to see what you other guys would do... :P<<

  • May 11, 2006, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Thanks for spoiling jerk. I didn&#39;t know Jesus got laid.

    by Darth Bauer

  • May 11, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Its false,and im gonna tell u why

    by Snikkar124

    The dude writes that iceman doesnt fully cover up with ice like the comics,but in one of the tv spots i saw at youtube he clearly does just that.You see him clear as day(check it www.youtube.com) Its tvspot5 (some are crap quality but one of them is clear as day.Enyway,this makes me think the guy has not seen the film.Im just glad we get the film two days before it opens in the U.S.May24 in Norway!!!

  • May 11, 2006, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Pessimism is so teh kewl

    by cynicusprime

    You freaks make me laugh. Three points: 1) Everyone said the reviewer didn&#39;t mention anything that hasn&#39;t been in the trailers or released clips. How about the Wolverine skeleton hint? That was hoped for but never seen. 2) Everyone pointed out that the only thing the reviewer complained about was the Danger Room scene, which no one liked from the clip released. But it was clarified by Kinberg that the clip shown was heavily chopped for the showing on Leno to focus on Wolverine&#39;s action only. 3) <b>beefywhore</b> sarcastically responded to the younger Xavier and Magneto that they hired younger actors. They didn&#39;t. They used a de-aging CGI technology to make McKellan and Stewart look 20+ years younger than they are. If you&#39;re going to complain about a review or a film, at least do it accurately.

  • May 11, 2006, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Iceman

    by cynicusprime

    Snikkar#124 said: "The dude writes that iceman doesnt fully cover up with ice like the comics..." Actually, he said that he doesn&#39;t do ice slides, but he says he does something "BADASS" at the end of the fight, which we can assume is ice up himself. Once again, check yo&#39;sef.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    TB&#39;er with "cynic" in handle hates pessimism. Ironic?

    by Ribbons

    Hypocritical? I love how pessimists are "freaks" just because it sounds like an effective diss yet you devote your entire post to pedantic corrections to a few of theirs.

  • May 11, 2006, 2:08 p.m. CST

    "Okay...okay, Philbrick, here&#39;s how it goes down..."

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    I need your ass glued to that chair to monitor this situation. I want constant updates, I want you in my ear like a fuckin&#39; mosquito. If you hear one of these jokers scratches their dick, I want to know about it, got me? And after this plant gets shipped to the mailroom I want to know who signed off on this! I want him manning a radar tower in Alaska by the end of the week! ALright, I&#39;m gonna be with Jolene and the Marketing Boys in Damage Control, and for god&#39;s sake do you have the London office on the line yet? Worthington--TALK to me..."

  • May 11, 2006, 2:39 p.m. CST

    *Cut Scene #2* - FOX Boardroom

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    "By God, Worthington! This isn&#39;t like our AvPII script. We couldn&#39;t stop this X3 train if my secretary&#39;s life depended on it! So, let me make this clear to you...if this Plant blows up in our face...I&#39;ll hang each and every one of you ass-kissers out by your Bluetooth ear and you&#39;ll be screaming for sweet mercy!"

  • May 11, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Rule 4: The Plant Never Attends His Own Talkback

    by Cedar_Room

    and so far I don&#39;t see any sign of this fool...I saw the trailer for this before MI-3 at the same time as the Superman trailer and this film looked the better BY FAR however, this guy fails miserably to convince and makes me think that X3 (as we all know it&#39;s really called! hey fellow movie fans??) could well be a steaming pile of shit. Unless Iceman fucks Storm with a 2-foot ice dildo...

  • May 11, 2006, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Hey Cedar_Room

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Are you, by chance, a Doves fan?

  • May 11, 2006, 2:54 p.m. CST

    That&#39;s got to be some of the most half-@$$ed reasoning.

    by The Funketeer

    Why is it exactly that this review now prevents you from posting reviews from unfamiliar sources? But for some reason it will be ok for you to run poor reviews from anyone? You guys screwed up and ran a review that you couldn&#39;t confirm even though you suspected it might be false from the get go and you&#39;re going to blame the nitwit that wrote it for not being able to run any positive reviews? I can tell you guys are torn between wanting to like this movie and wanting it to fail so the past year of Ratnerbashing can be justified but don&#39;t you think this tactic is a little transparent?

  • May 11, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    So, twas a Rogue Plant.

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Homo Plantus Solitarisis. Them&#39;s dangerous lifeforms. Fortunately this one was a juvenille, and because it was separated from the herd it didn&#39;t have the experience of learning from the mistakes of adult members of its species, so it&#39;s ambush tactics were rudimentary and maladaptive. This allowed it to be tracked and spotted by alert members of its Talkbacker prey before it could do any damage. Still, an interesting specimen. Join us next time on AICN Wild Kingdom.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:02 p.m. CST

    50% of @ss reasoning. yes.

    by JackieChanbara

    By stating you will no longer run "positive reviews" unless they are from an established source just solidifies your bias toward the film. If you want to be objective, if you really care about that, you&#39;ll nix ALL reviews unless they are from an established source. I loves the site but c&#39;mon i can&#39;t remember anything like this happening ever. retarted.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Agreed

    by Ribbons

    Some schmoo who&#39;s never actually seen the movie can write a negative review as well. If you don&#39;t want people who aren&#39;t actually qualified to talk about the film to fuck with your readership, then just nix all reviews for this film unless they&#39;re established sources.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Umm... that is to say...

    by Ribbons

    ...agreed with the TalkBacker two posts up.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Harrys a plant

    by meta4

    Hey big guy...how ya doin?....want a soooooooda?.....no but really Harry your becoming what this site steered clear of, A Mainstream Fanboy Site. Your nothing but Filmforce with a king kong background and a GIF. Image. I think the Image of u in the bridge scene of mission impossible is the perfect example. You&#39;ll do anything to be Hollywood&#39;s golden boy including alienate your sites loyal following, How do you alienate you ask? By the way your "not so sure" reviews are pouring in these days. You&#39;ve become the Simpsons&#39; Version of Critic review sites. You may have been funny at first and included a couple guest appearences here and there but now your just overloading each segment with pure and utter unfunny biased shit along with lame guest appearences. Your just another "whiny" (your word) fanboy that you despise so much disguised in sheeps clothing, die....

  • May 11, 2006, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Harry, Moriarty - FIX THINGS. SOON.

    by ckane123

    I post this in the dim hope that you two will read this and realize that you&#39;ve reached a tipping point. You two have been blessed - you were at the right place at the right time and got a fan site to enter the national consciousness and get the attention The Powers That Be. Hat tip for that, happy for you, etc. But I think things are beginning to go off the rails a bit. I won&#39;t quote any "journalistic ethics" or anything like that (majored in Journalism, by the way) in reference to the links or stories you guys greenlight, but this... this is ridiculous. Fellas, you don&#39;t know me, but I have hit your site for years, and only recently started posting. I am the type of visitor advertisers LOVE - good income, frequent visitor, click the ads. Either segregate an entire section of the site as being "WILD-A** RUMORS AND S***" and post these type of early reviews - unfiltered and completely without editorializing - or STOP POSTING ALL UNVERIFIABLE REVIEWS, pro or con. Otherwise you will lose ALL cachet you have with the studios and eventually advertisers and sites like CHUD or IESB will get your traffic and the advertising dollars (and unlike people who complain about the ads, I know how much bandwidth costs and the need for ad revenue). Take a stand. Respectfully, me.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST

    BUT!

    by Ribbons

    I do agree that whoever wrote this review is crazy as a coconut. So you wrote a bullshit positive review for a movie that you haven&#39;t even seen because you&#39;re sick of all the bias and negativity on Harry&#39;s part (even though we&#39;ve established that you already love a movie you haven&#39;t even seen)? Do I have that right? And then you go and brag about it on another website because it never occurs to you that you&#39;re not the only person who reads both? I think I have it all down except for the part where any of that makes sense. I cannot stand these people with slavish devotions to Marvel. You think Harry&#39;s being too "biased?" Because why? Hating Ratner and Kinberg isn&#39;t a legitimate enough excuse to be pessimistic about this movie?

  • May 11, 2006, 3:26 p.m. CST

    MutantCamel = Peven

    by MrBoinfoint

    n/t.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Ribbons....

    by meta4

    You made a great arguement, but i just wanted to say something about the "Hating Ratner and Kinberg isn&#39;t a legitimate enough excuse to be pessimistic about this movie?" comment. Ratner gets alot of shit for really no reason, oOOh he directed Rushhour 1-2 and Red dragon, those movies weren&#39;t great but they weren&#39;t bad either (e.g Uwe Boll bad, or Michael Bay bad). He made 3 popcorn movies, high art? no not at all but 100 percent more enjoyable then the shit that hollywoods putting out now (War of the Worlds...need i say more?)...this movie i think will fall in line with his other popcorn flicks and thats fine by me. I&#39;m not an x-men fanboy i just enjoy these movies and the ones ratner made i can&#39;t complain just because some asshole who thinks he&#39;s "king of the world" for creating another critic site, that brings his loyal fanbase "unconfirmed news" says this movies gonna suck balls. X-3 might be garbage and it might not be but atleast theres a week left of hope....

  • May 11, 2006, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Who would&#39;ve thought?

    by Nate Champion

    AICN running a review that&#39;s completely full of shit? NEVER!!!

  • May 11, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    No really, ths review is fake.

    by zerogundamx

    But this isn&#39;t a fanboys attempt to get good press out for X3, he simply did this to show how easy it really is to fake a review and have everyone believe you. The negative review is also a fake which we discovered at SHH, he registered and tried to answer our questions regardling the film but ultimately screwed up. So we have two fake reviews Harry, if you&#39;re going to put a disclaimer on this one, the other one needs it too.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:45 p.m. CST

    AICN is the Fox News of movie news

    by chrth

    Of course they won&#39;t put a disclaimer on the negative review.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Okay, but...

    by Ribbons

    ...that&#39;s, like, just your opinion, maaan. Harry has been outspoken against Ratner for a long time, and just because you and he don&#39;t see eye-to-eye as far as the enjoyability of his movies goes doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s any more biased than you are. If a director and screenwriter responsible for movies you loathed were both placed in charge of an upcoming film (and to completely wipe the bias thing off the table, let&#39;s say this film has nothing to do with comic books), would you have any reason to look forward to it?

  • May 11, 2006, 3:48 p.m. CST

    So...

    by vinceklortho

    your saying we won&#39;t get any reviews at all, just a one-sided bias of how much X3 is going to blow. Thanks.

  • May 11, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST

    And I loathe the creative team behind this....

    by vinceklortho

    but I would like to hear any positive reviews, no matter how "misguided" the nerd can be. There is still hope!

  • May 11, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST

    YOU SEE!!!!

    by Rcamacho2278

    Didnt I say 65% of the time the Fans on aicn are right ALL The time? Dammit, why don&#39;t we get more recognition?

  • May 11, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m betting the Superman Returns review ...

    by chrth

    needs a disclaimer as well.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Kanec123 Well put.

    by butnugget

    I loves me some drama though...

  • May 11, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Mr Nice Gaius

    by Cedar_Room

    Indeed I am, you&#39;re the first person to notice it - may I assume that you are a fellow Northerner?

  • May 11, 2006, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Reviews

    by The Funketeer

    I wouldn&#39;t mind if only the regular cast of AICN characters were allowed to write reviews. Does anyone actually read and/or pay attention to these other reviews? How can you trust a reviewer you haven&#39;t read before. I read Ebert because I know where he and I agree and differ and I can apply his tastes and reviews to my decision on whether or not to see a movie. If some 14 year old twerp posts a review for the first time, how do I know whether or not I&#39;ll agree with him. By only letter Harry, Mori, Quint, etc... post reviews, we might get fewer reviews but we&#39;d get better reviews and we&#39;d know the reviewers and would at the very least know they weren&#39;t plants.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:11 p.m. CST

    there is no such thing as plants.

    by Blok Narpin

    there is no such thing as plants. Seriously, people, the studios have more imprtant things to do.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Cedar_Room

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    No, but I am a tremendous fan; they are one of my favorite bands. And though I am an American, I continue to believe that the best music still comes from the UK (Mad-chester, baby.). It must be something in the water over there. Cheers, mate.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Is it impossible...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...that there&#39;s a new breed of plant which, when caught, has an obligation to lie and pretend to be fantard hoaxer? You know, so that the studio employer can save face if it turns out that their latest gardening project is a dud? ........ "If you or your mission are compromised in any way, FOX will deny all knowledge of your existence and you will be required to switch to Plan(t) B and take the hoax plea. Failure to do so will result in a forfeiture of your wages, suspension of your privileges and a daily mandatory viewing of Garfield for 60 days. This bluetooth will self-destruct in five seconds."

  • May 11, 2006, 4:27 p.m. CST

    "I&#39;m Beast Bitch..."

    by andrew coleman

    They better have this line in the movie or I&#39;ll demand my money back. "I&#39;m Beast bitch the baddest mother f*ker in the world..." "I thought the Juggernaut was the baddest mother f*ker in the world?" "Well you heard wrong bitch it&#39;s Beast!" By the way this movie will suck as will Superman and Snakes on a Plane will dominate both of them in the BO. Feel the wrath of Mace Windu bitches.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Dumb

    by The_Comedian

    "AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources." This is possibly the funniest thing I&#39;ve ever read on this site. I still can&#39;t beleive they would say this so blatantly. Instead of not posting ANY review that&#39;s not from a reputable source, they&#39;ll post as many fak negative reviews as they want to further attempt to hurt this film.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Wants it to be rocks? I don&#39;t get it.

    by jimmy_009

  • May 11, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    "there is no such thing as plants."

    by DocPazuzu

    Dude... If this site&#39;s search engine wasn&#39;t so shitty, I&#39;d dig up the infamous Doom review from a while back. I dare you to read that and tell me that&#39;s anything but a plant.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu...

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Good show, sir! I stand in complete awe of your penetrating mind. With the information I&#39;ve gathered so far of this situation I find your theory entirely plausible. You catching this, Team Fox? Are you paying attention, Philbrick-analog? Better inform the Master that you might think your Damage Control Room roundtable discussion resulted in a brilliant coup-de-grace of explication to bootstrap your ass out of the fire you found yourselves in, but ALAS...behold the up-rooting power of Pazuzu! Oh my god, how sublime. How utterly sublime.

  • May 11, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Heh...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...there is a drawback to all this conspiracy theorizing, of course. While writing that last post I had the fleeting but disconcering sensation that I might actually be homewrecker. Brrrr!

  • May 11, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Yeah....

    by vinceklortho

    that Doom review awhile back was enough evidence to convince anyone. I think the reviewer called other movies being released in the same week "counterprogrammers". Also, I had spoken to someone who works at the publicity dept. at Fox and they are all too aware of this site and Harry&#39;s vendetta against the film. In fact, when I asked how X3 was going, the first thing that came out of her mouth was, "Have you heard of Harry Knowles?" They might just be planning a war here.

  • May 11, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Hey, it&#39;s not really a Talkback Conspiracy Theory...

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Until you continue to defend it after it has been thoroughly and utterly discredited by an overwhelming mountain of objective evidence. So cheer up, Doc!

  • May 11, 2006, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Hey Mutant Camel...

    by BV

    ..thanks for ruining Da Vinci Code for me in an X-Men review, fuckhead. }:(

  • May 11, 2006, 5:28 p.m. CST

    X3 Reviews...

    by MaulRat

    "AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources" That is a truly fucked attitude.. I wont even go into the idea that only a couple of years ago someone committed his undying love of Van Helsing to text and yet has absolute distain for a movie he hasn&#39;t seen yet.. Just make sure ALL the reviews of x3 are from reliable sources.. not just the positive ones.. that said, half the fun of this site used to be that average assholes like me who don&#39;t get paid for this shit sending in their reviews... Clearly your bias toward this film (and more specifically it&#39;s director) has got you making a similarly biased decision.. you&#39;re letting your emotions get the better of you.. I&#39;m not saying X3 will be kick ass, but what you&#39;re doing is trying to shape public opinion, rather than reflect it... we may as well go to Rotten Tomatoes to get reviews of X3.

  • May 11, 2006, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Plants and Pazuzu&#39;s

    by monorail77

    Plants, fake plants, conspiracy theories, Fox Marketing Dept.&#39;s unhealthy and unwarranted fixation with Harry Knowles, Harry&#39;s unhealthy and unwarranted hate-on for X3...God I love this site! Doc, you in particular continue to Slay! Props.

  • May 11, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    SPOILER: Character Deaths?

    by jeremykirk13

    Just wondering if anyone else saw this in the early version of the new preview. Wolverine and Storm are kneeling and holding each other in front of X&#39;s empty wheelchair. The newer versions seem to have pulled this image, but I noticed it pretty early. Just wondering if anyone else saw it. Also, is it pretty obvious that Cyclops bites it early? The only scene we see him in in the trailers is the one at the lake. Think Phoenix kills him first?

  • May 11, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST

    My mother always said there was no such thing as plants

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    But there are, aren&#39;t there?

  • May 11, 2006, 5:40 p.m. CST

    The conspiracy to bring down X3

    by Lovecraftfan

    So the truth is no positive reviews will ever be published for this film becuase they wont be alllowed. Ya thats really fair. This is pathetic.

  • May 11, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST

    I don&#39;t understand people who defend this movie

    by andrew coleman

    It;s going to be a joke, like obviously it will be fun but bad like Transporter 2 or something. Why is everyone feeling the need to support this movie but not Superman. I don&#39;t get it same thing happened a while back for F4 a horrible movie which everyone defined as "fun" so it was okay. Wtf all these movies are fun. So shouldn&#39;t they all be okay? Personally I like the dubbed cartoon version of X-men on youtube more than the movies but oh well.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    The Defense....

    by vinceklortho

    of X3 is because not one of us nerds has seen it yet. The verdict still lies two weeks from now...for me. So how could you rationally argue either way for it? It makes no sense. Yeah, I think the creative team blows, but... A lot of people have already made up their minds that it will most likely suck, like this site&#39;s idea that if anyone posts a positive review of the movie(God forbid, other people have different tastes in movies) it can&#39;t even be considered because there is no earthly way this site will support anyone who likes the film....which hasn&#39;t even been released yet. I doubt everyone who happens to like X3 is out to "get" the people on this site. It&#39;s time to put the X-Files gear here nerds.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Im looking forward to this movie

    by BRUTICUS

    And I see no reason not to post anything. Thats lame. What are you doing putting Ratner in the corner? Give me a fucking break.

  • May 11, 2006, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Don&#39;t do it Harry!

    by Ktak

    Seriously, this policy will do more to harm Ain&#39;t It Cool News&#39; credibility and respectability than a dozen fake positive reviews ever could. Think about it. You&#39;re arbitrarily applying different standards to a movie based on the premise that "it can&#39;t possibly be good." How can you do this and maintain any semblance of impartiality in the future? If you&#39;re going to insist on only accepting positive reviews from a verified source, how can you not have the same requirement for negative reviews? I don&#39;t think any of us is stupid enough to believe that only positive reviews can be fake or planted. It would be better to just say you won&#39;t print ANY reviews of X3 at all. Look, I don&#39;t hold out any more hope that X3 will be good than the rest of you. But if you go through with this, you&#39;ll be setting a precedent that you won&#39;t be able to undo. Gee, I wonder what movie will get the "X3 protocol" next?

  • May 11, 2006, 8:16 p.m. CST

    7 minutes.

    by werkharder

    Just looks like a cable episode of Highlander with the same production values. Lots of talking, little to no action(and what there is, badly done), just out and out mediocre. Why choose to show 7 minutes of boring stuff, unless that&#39;s all they have? Ah, well...

  • May 11, 2006, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Ok, honestly, there was only 3 bad things in the 7 mins

    by Shermdawg

    1. Colossus still looks like poo. 2. The whole Angel sequence was lame. 3. HALLE FUCKING BERRY CAN&#39;T ACT TO SAVE HER ASS!!! I don&#39;t care what Oprah says. SHE SUCKS!!!

  • May 11, 2006, 8:53 p.m. CST

    the prom bit...

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    i dont do school dances...they are always lame. i usually just got the money from the rents and pocketed it, then went out and just fooled around with the girl i would be taking out.

  • May 11, 2006, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Shermdawg

    by chrth

    There was one bit of CGI (a wallcrawler?) in the church that looked lame. I thought the Angel scene was ok, the only thing that looked dumb was how Angel ran across the room. It looked unnatural (although maybe it was supposed to because he has wings?)

  • May 11, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    i agree... the clips didnt suck

    by TheLastBystander

    i thought the clips should promise... the first scene was laughable soap opera, but from there (and knowing stuff was cut out even from the "complete scenes"), I think we can at least expect mediocre from X-3, and perhaps a lot more. there could be some great complexity involving magneto&#39;s character... if it&#39;s handled well. but I thought ratner handled it fairly well in the underrated Red Dragon, so I&#39;m looking forward to this.

  • May 11, 2006, 9:33 p.m. CST

    **showed

    by TheLastBystander

    showed promise. err why is there no edit on this comments?

  • May 11, 2006, 10:08 p.m. CST

    by tHEmOOG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGP3Mvc0jjQ

  • May 11, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    For anyone who missed it tonight

    by tHEmOOG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGP3Mvc0jjQ

  • May 11, 2006, 10:16 p.m. CST

    So professional Mori, lol

    by Orionsangels

  • May 11, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Hallie Berry&#39;s acting, wow

    by Orionsangels

    lol

  • May 11, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Ribbons

    by meta4

    If a director and screen writer that i loathe came together and made a film, it&#39;d really depend on the product their presenting, i don&#39;t really steer clear of direectors or screen writers unless the movie their making hold no intrest to me, for instance Michael Bay (i think?) is making Transformers, I dislike Michael Bay but because he&#39;s making a transformers movie i&#39;ll see it because it falls in line with his type of movie (loud action, huge explosions, corny dialogue)...i feel that x-men is better suited for ratner, not to say because the material is not to be taken serious, but because he&#39;s known for bein a kind of action director who&#39;s professed his love for x-men in several interviews even before coming onboard x-3, Only way i can honestly see this film failing is that ratners revealing his cards to early, i mean we could probably compile all the footage that has been shown and "leaked" to the internet and make an hour and a half movie out of it. Had he kept his hand hidden for a bit of the "element of surprise" this film wouldn&#39;t be unfairly bashed before its even released for mass audiences&#39;. Personally i would of released the teaser (which i thought was great) and let fans sit on that until 2 weeks before the movie released then release a second trailer and let that be the end of it....but only time, not some biased talkback, will tell if this film is actually great and not mediocre

  • May 11, 2006, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Ehh...

    by Ribbons

    ...see you&#39;re talking about something different. If the project somehow suits the director, then fine. I don&#39;t see how this suits Ratner. "Action movie director" is a pretty vague description, and it&#39;s honestly not what he&#39;s known for. Not to mention he&#39;s never worked with CGI before. So it&#39;s not like doing X-Men 3 is like slipping into an old pair of shoes for him just because there was a car chase in &#39;After the Sunset.&#39; Plus, being a "big fan" of something doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re qualified to direct it. Everybody on Superherohype is a huge fan of X-Men, so I assume that means they are more qualified to direct a movie adaptation of the franchise than most Hollywood directors. Right? That&#39;s not how it works. Being a fan of the property means you&#39;re more likely to respect the material than others, but it doesn&#39;t make you a good director. Which doesn&#39;t really matter as far as I&#39;m concerned, because I&#39;m much less worried about what Ratner&#39;s going to do to the movie than I am about Kinberg.

  • May 11, 2006, 10:48 p.m. CST

    The 7min clip was fine...

    by Kampbell-Kid

    So far all the complaints about the 7min clip have been trivial. It&#39;s a movie based on a comic book serial not Homer&#39;s The Illiad. Nothing bothered me about the clip or gave me the slightest bit of doubt about the film. I don&#39;t think I&#39;m the best judge of film in the world but I do know crap from Uwe Boll and Parker Posey when I see it. X3 looks like it will do what the last two only did... entertain.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:04 p.m. CST

    screw all of ya

    by oisin5199

    and totally fuck this site&#39;s insane logic and bias!!! How are we supposed to trust anything here, when a review can be posted without any credence and then a retraction with just as little. We&#39;re now just supposed to trust that we&#39;re being given the whole story? This just smacks of bullshit. Like they knew it was fake, just so they could pull this shit and make outrageous statements about no longer posting positive reviews from &#39;unreliable sources&#39;. I really hope that part&#39;s a joke. This is just the biggest bunch of horseshit I&#39;ve ever seen here. Damn this pisses me off. I really hope there&#39;s fallout for this. And I&#39;m just as excited to see this (if not more) after the seven minutes.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    I hate Ratner more than anybody but he did a good job.

    by Bari Umenema

    Some of you know how much I detest and loathe the Rat. He&#39;s a spoiled Jew boy from Miami Beach a modern day Sammy Glick who&#39;s been conning and hustling people for a decade. He loves living the celebrity lifestyle he&#39;s a total phony and a sissy boy who deserves to have the shit beat out of him every damn day. But even with all that negative karma he brings on himself because he thinks he&#39;s better than everybody else he really didn&#39;t do such a bad job on this. He gave them a movie version of the script he was handed at the last minute. If you really want to punish the studio then don&#39;t pay to see it in a theater or on dvd instead wait a year and watch it on cable tv so they don&#39;t make any extra money from you. That&#39;s the only way you can protest. Not by paying to see it opening weekend then coming here and complaining about it. Boycott it. Period. Don&#39;t give Fox your hard earned money for this if you&#39;re that much opposed to its storyline or that asswipe Ratner got to direct it.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:32 p.m. CST

    My god that was so awful I think I have cancer!

    by PurityOfEssence

    I now know what that whore in Takashi Miike&#39;s Imprint felt like during the fingernail scene.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:34 p.m. CST

    okaaay....

    by meta4

    Okay good points, but CGI is a small part of any movie (unless your the director of Sky Captain World of Tomorrow, director of the Spy Kids franchise, and anything created by george lucas,) Do i think the superherohype board guys deserve to be directors? hell no but the ideas are there...i&#39;d personally want a director to respect and know the mythos to a comic book/video game/novel then have someone who knows nothin about the universe (lets just say Paul W.S Anderson) come in and butcher it for "mainstream consumption". I won&#39;t sit here and say this film is gonna rock the fucking world off its axis but i wont say this movie is gonna bring about the apocolypse (no pun intended) either...well atleast until i see the movie.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Based on the Hugh Jackman footage

    by Raschied

    shown on "The Tonight Show," it&#39;ll suck. Unless that was some kind of simulation in the Danger Room. The footage from tonight&#39;s preview had some tasty bits - Ian McKellen still makes a kick-ass Magneto. If the non-canonical deaths are true though, it&#39;ll suck no matter how punchy the dialogue is.

  • May 11, 2006, 11:56 p.m. CST

    X3 novelization is out must be the source for lies

    by JUSTICE41

    The X3 novelization is out now we know how the kids can make up the reviews and still have truth in them.

  • May 12, 2006, 12:11 a.m. CST

    if you thinks it&#39;s a plant...

    by decfx

    why bother posting it? Sheesh!

  • May 12, 2006, 12:40 a.m. CST

    "This is sad. I really want X3 to be good."

    by chickychow

    Harry, is that supposed to be a joke? Not a single person on here believes that to be true. No one will be surprised when you, and presumably Mori and Quint, post negative reviews of the movie (of course complete with the obligatory "There were one or two cool moments. I liked Ian McKellen blah blah blah") Yes, obviously the review is a plant. Just retract it and move on, whats with this "will not run any positive reviews of X3" bullshit? You guys have lost your fucking minds.

  • May 12, 2006, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Only THREE things wrong with the clip???

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    It was godawful. The acting was WAAAY too earnest, like in the Matrix sequels. The dialogue is like a children&#39;s film. No subtelty to it, just words to explain the plot. And Brett Ratner gives even these supposedly dramatic scenes absolutely no visual flair AT ALL. And I really, really hope the music is just a temp track. I can see this being an entertaining film but only if you&#39;ve never seen an X-Men movie before and you&#39;re a bit thick. It reminded me of Fantastic Four - a gargantuan misstep for everyone involved. Trouble is, it&#39;ll probably do just as well as F4.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:08 a.m. CST

    only negative reviews?

    by Holodigm

    wow. that&#39;s pretty pathetic. how about we not post any reviews at all? that seems to make a lot more sense to me.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:32 a.m. CST

    what amazes me

    by TheLastBystander

    Harry and friends have fucked up SOOO many times, they have done shit that should shred their credebility, and talkbackers ALWAYS jump on it. and yet, nothing happens, there is never fallout, nothing. why??

  • May 12, 2006, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Why we&#39;re still here...

    by ZeroCorpse

    It&#39;s because us old-timers, along with Harry, Mori, Quint, and all the rest, have become a big dysfunctional family. We gather here because we&#39;re all familiar with each other, and even when family members are douchebags, we continue to listen to them because they&#39;re familiar to us. Lots of newbies come and go, but the old-timers have been here through it all, and we keep coming back because-- as Cheers said-- Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Raschied, you haven&#39;t been paying attention, have you?

    by oisin5199

    Of course that was a Danger Room sequence - that&#39;s been established for some time (plus the fact that it was edited for the Tonight Show). And non-canonical deaths? Have you read the comics? Xavier, Cyclops, Phoenix, Magneto, Colossus, Psylocke, etc. have all died and come back, some many times. I don&#39;t see why the movie should be any different.

  • May 12, 2006, 2:04 a.m. CST

    And if you check the tb history...

    by Shermdawg

    I was the first to call the Sentinel in the Danger Room back when the first teaser hit. Wow, I&#39;m tooting my own horn, and I&#39;m not even musically inclined. :P I do wish though, that I was wrong after seeing that crappy excuse for a Sentinel. ugh.

  • May 12, 2006, 2:06 a.m. CST

    If you guys want fallout don&#39;t post

    by andrew coleman

    You guys bitch and complain but just like with Hollywood. If you&#39;re pissed don&#39;t get involved if you hate what Fox has done to the X-men(made it okay at best) or Ratner(hack) then don&#39;t see the movie don&#39;t give them your money. I don&#39;t care if they have my money so I&#39;ll give it to them. Same goes here if you&#39;re pissed about whatever you think is wrong don&#39;t come to the site, don&#39;t post don&#39;t do anything, the fact you come on and keep posting actually doesn&#39;t hurt them at all. I love this site so I come and post, well randomly. It&#39;s all up to you.

  • May 12, 2006, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Harry you are such a ASS CLOWN

    by UNDERCOVERCRACKR

    Let me get this straight. "AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 unless they come from established sources." So that means you will have no problem running negative reviews from unestablished sources. As you know Harry, just as some positive reviews are faked to help the movie. Some negative reviews are faked to hurt a movie. Competing studios with a movie coming out at the same time have been known to submit negative reviews to movie sites in an effort to hurt the box office of their competitor. "And it flushed out someone that had seen the film that thought it was a waste and mediocre." Is "someone" an established source? If he was I&#39;m sure you would have said so. There have been a lot of clips come out in the last few weeks from the movie but AICN has not said anything about them. Maybe because they make the film look like it may be good. Reading the comments on some other sites that Harry&#39;s zombies don&#39;t populate they are far more positive than negative. This site is a joke.

  • May 12, 2006, 2:38 a.m. CST

    "Let&#39;s say Paul W.S. Anderson?"

    by Ribbons

    The problem with that is that hardly anybody thinks Paul W.S. Anderson is a good director. You basically picked the worst possible director to use as a counterpoint to Ratner&#39;s fanboy-ism. Now if you&#39;d rather Ratner do X-Men than, say, Spielberg, your argument would have more consistency. I&#39;d still think you&#39;re crazy, but your argument would have more consistency.

  • May 12, 2006, 2:53 a.m. CST

    So, this site has become a haven for whiny fanboys?

    by Shaz_bot80

    That&#39;s sad. When did that happen? *hyuck*

  • May 12, 2006, 7:45 a.m. CST

    So how did the site find out this review was bogus?

    by minderbinder

    Did he admit he hadn&#39;t seen it? Did you find out some other way? The story is unclear, it makes sense if there&#39;s proof that the guy is bogus, but if the site just pulled this because it seems fishy, that&#39;s pretty questionable. And not printing ANY positive reviews without proof...while I assume negative reviews don&#39;t need that proof? What a load of fucking bullshit. It&#39;s awesome to see the site take an official position of bias against the movie. Not that this site has ever had much credibility, but if there was any left, it&#39;s gone now.

  • May 12, 2006, 7:53 a.m. CST

    crap

    by themidnighter23

    after watching that 7 min preview on FOX i have no doubt that this will be a mindless slugfest amounting to nothing. it will be x-men&#39;s version of batman forever, entertaining but in the end void of any substance

  • May 12, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST

    not running postives?

    by fxmulder35

    Harry.....AICN is not gonna run any positive reviews of X3 unless from established sources? Well, I think you shouldn&#39;t run any negative reviews either...unless from established sources. Personally, I&#39;d like the movie to be good. I enjoyed the last two. I&#39;m not a geek on X-men...but just a regular joe movie-goer. Still....I&#39;d like it to be good and worth my time. Let&#39;s be REALLY fair then...and post NO review before it&#39;s time.

  • May 12, 2006, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Yeah, cause the Superman previews have been stellar...

    by SK909

    That was sarcasm by the way. Honestly, oisin is right. This just smacks of some serious bullshit, not by this reviewer, who really is pretty obviously a plant, but this getting more ridiculous by the second fucking site. The talkbacks and Quint&#39;s interviews and reviews... and once in a while, when they&#39;re not totally self-congratulatory, Moriarty&#39;s, are the only reason to come here anymore. And even THAT&#39;S starting to become questionable. This whole X3 thing combined with the lavish, cum guzzling praise over every single miniscule piece of Superman info, pics, music... the name of best boy electric... the GODDAMN PAP SMEAR OF THE SCRIPT CHECK GIRL... THEY&#39;RE ALL SUPER-FRIGGING-STUPENDOUS, RIGHT?! AHHHHHH EEEFFFFFF IT!!!!

  • May 12, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    minderbinder

    by Oski

    I haven&#39;t read much, but from what i&#39;ve scanned over at Superherohype, the review was a fake sent in as a joke by fanboys on their message boards who were tired of Harry having an opinion different than theirs. Harry wants this movie to be good, he just thinks it won&#39;t be, how hard is that to understand?

  • May 12, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST

    THE FIRST CLUE THIS MOVIE WAS GONNA BE BAD

    by adzigjo

    WHEN I SAW BEAST WEARING HIS GAY TIGHT LEATHER PANTS, I MEAN COME ON.....F-ING ratner....

  • May 12, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Beast does look pretty ridiculous

    by chickychow

    In the one clip he sounds EXACTLY like Frasier Crane. I foresee lots of giggles and titters coming from the audience.

  • May 12, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Mr Nice Gaius

    by Cedar_Room

    If we&#39;re talking bands from Manchester I feel it rude not to mention Joy Division, New Order, The Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Oasis, The Verve as well as the almighty Doves. I salute your taste in music sir, particularly as I would imagine this sort of stuff isn&#39;t particularly mainstream over there.

  • May 12, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    euro x-3 banner ad

    by mrtorrance

    http://tinyurl.com/g5qgr its pretty funny. you can view it and post comments about it at the website above.

  • May 12, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    by Seph_J

    Surely you should always post reviews based on whether they appear real or not.... not based on whether they give a positive or negative review of the film? Think about it.

  • May 12, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Hey Doc Paz & Cholera&#39;s...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Any interest in starting an AICN Theater Troupe? Just look at the goldmine of material that FOX has provided for our first production.

  • May 12, 2006, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Cedar_Room

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    It is and it isn&#39;t. It&#39;s hard to say...the fans come out of the woodwork but it&#39;s not like you hear the music on TV, radio, etc. As for those Manchester bands, honorable mentions across the board. Joy Division being the key mention. Speaking of which, I&#39;m thoroughly enjoying the Editors album "The Back Room". Though very "Joy Divisionesque", it rocks impressively.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Aint it Crap

    by JacksonsPole

    this site is really starting to suck. all harry and crew seem to do is complain about things. boo hoo! x3 is gonna suck. even though the trailers look cool, and no one on here has seen it. i mean, with all the negativity on here, you&#39;d think brett ratner slept with harry&#39;s underage girlfriend. i&#39;m really sick of this site. i wanna know about films. but, i don&#39;t wanna read the whiny rantings of these armchair douchebags. and, now, they sit in their own filth and gripe about miami vice. looks like a cool movie to me. michael mann is consistently one of the coolest directors in hollywood. give the movies a chance. for god&#39;s sake.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:27 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s certainly true, Mr. Nice Gaius...

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    ...that AICN provides positively phenomenal creative inspiration.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:29 p.m. CST

    what is it with the X3 fanboys?

    by quadrupletree

    Hey I loved X1 and X2 too. The studio screwed this one up from day one, don&#39;t be mad at people or this site for telling the truth. Be mad at the studio execs and filmakers that did this to us. Planting a good review because you want the negativity to stop wont help it. It looks mediocre, get over it.

  • May 12, 2006, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Okay, Conspiracy Theory Roundup...

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    So we got the following scenarios: 1) This is a Studio Plant who was disavowed. 2) This is a Rogue Plant just like Harry said. 3) This is an AICN plant hired to plant a fake review as to subsequently offer an excuse for Harry to continue his anti-X3 campaign by screening out positive reviews, thereby acting as the ultimate counter-plant to undercover operatives of the Team Fox Shrubbery Force. 4) This is a mole within the AICN staff while simultaneously a triple agent against Talkbackers, AICN, and Fox for because of vendetta-related personal motivations against the geek community. Any more to add to this list?

  • May 12, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST

    aliens

    by TheLastBystander

    aliens are behind this review. and they also caused 9/11... bin Laden is actually an America lover, and the face behind this so called "Joseph Merrick." I knew something was off with him.

  • May 12, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST

    "AICN will have to not run any positive reviews of X3 "

    by RobinP

    With that facist, biased quote, you have lost every right to consider yourselves film journalists. It&#39;s the single most depressing line I have read on this site in the eight years I&#39;ve hung out here. This is a black day, Harry. A VERY black day.

  • May 12, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    "unless they come from established sources"

    by pewterschmidt

    Big difference.

  • May 12, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Dark day indeed....

    by PeanutGallery

    Could this article be the end of AICN?

  • May 12, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    no

    by TheLastBystander

    like i said it won&#39;t. it doesnt matter if Harry was caught eating a baby alive, people would still come here for the reasons mentioned above. ive been an on off reader for 5 years, but just started commenting cause things went too far. but even i find this site interesting because it is so fucked up, so unfair, so biased and really lacking no credibility. it&#39;s entertaining, like watching a train wreck. but its never the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd site i check for real movie news.

  • May 12, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    errr

    by TheLastBystander

    lacking any credebility ;) the aliens made me say it!

  • May 12, 2006, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Love it or hate it....have some fun here....

    by flanaganagain

    Lots of X3 lovers here. Perhaps you haters can go on a spree?http://www.myspace.com/xmenthelaststand id

  • May 12, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Ok I&#39;ve avoided the hype till now and saw a screening

    by Lightwave7871

    And its is teeth grindingly fucking awful... It is almost like Fox told ratner to shit on every aspect of the other two films... We lose three major characters, rob two more of their powers and render them useless... the script is risible... Prof X stops being the Luther King to Magneto&#39;s Malcom X and just becomes a nominal leader till he is removed from the action... its just appalling... Honestly watch X1 and X2 again and see how an action film has CHARACTER and DEVELOPMENT and manages to just about balance the huge amount of characters while having a witty inteligent script then watch X3 and watch the memory of the other 2 take a royal fucking up the arse! This is the comicbook movie equivalent of Alien Resurrection... Take the plant over enthusiastic reviews and forget em... this movie is utter drivel!

  • May 13, 2006, 12:57 a.m. CST

    knowthyself

    by ScarranHalfBreed

    The idiot who planted the review hasn&#39;t SEEN THE FILM! That&#39;s the problem.

  • May 13, 2006, 7:03 a.m. CST

    No positive reviews, huh?

    by Master Bruce

    Harry, how out of touch are you to think that this wouldn&#39;t cause a firestorm w/any reasonable-minded people on this site? Do you hear yourself? Conspiracy theories aside, didn&#39;t you consider how this statement might sound? What respectable critic or film-site could get away w/such obvious BIAS & still have any credibility? I&#39;ve seen examples of it on here before, but this is surely the most BLATANT. Boy, for a guy who claims to be a critic of Dubya&#39;s tactics, you seem to have learned from the master well. Tell me, is this standard operating procedure for all Texans or just a coincidence?

  • May 13, 2006, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Master Bruce is right

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    As much as I support the rights of the AICN staff to do what they want with their site, excluding ALL positive reviews on the basis of this rogue plant but still implying the posting of negative reviews that comes in needs a little more spin doctoring before it will fly with reasonable-minded people.

  • May 15, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Harry, it should be "jibing" not "jiving."

    by 3 Bag Enema

    You just don&#39;t care, do you.