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New Trailer For M. Night Shyamalan's LADY IN THE WATER On-Line!!
The folks over at Yahoo Movies have posted a new trailer for M. Night Shyamalan’s forthcoming LADY IN THE WATER.
I’m not a big M. Night fan – I generally find his films self-indulgent, illogical, and nowhere near as nifty as they (seem to) feel they are. This trailer does little to change my mind.
This being said, I’m fully aware that M. Night Dissent…of any kind…is tantamount to sacrilege ‘round these here parts, so I’m expecting to get kicked around a bit for my egregious and dastardly non conformity. In fact, here comes Harry with a baseba…DAMN....that hurts!
You can access the trailer HERE.
LADY IN THE WATER opens July 21…
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wow, am I first?
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there I said it. I feel better now.
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that looks very uninteresting.
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I thought it was a bed time story?
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That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
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Man, I've loved nearly all of M. Night's work but this really did nothing for me. I think the teaser stuff was more intriguing than this. Also, it doesn't quite seem to be the "bed time story" that it was being sold as before.
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Is that the blind chick from The Village? Did she emerge from the drain? Is M. Night even trying?... all good questions.
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We won't really see anything, but still... love them redheads!
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i have seen this film, and all that stuff in the trailer happens in the first two minutes. seriously. it's insane. by the end of this film, you will have covered so much ground that you'll be like, "remember when that guy from the wine movie was after that mermaid from the pool drain and that werewolf thing got loose and that hotel with the people looking around and that sheriff and when she wouldn't tell him how many of them there are and all that? that seems like DAYS ago!" slight spoiler: this film occurs in the star wars universe. i won't say any more.
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I liked Sixth Sense, Signs and Unbreakable...didn't really like the Village...I hope this is a good one...at the very least it's not a re-hash of an old tv show.
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Now it seems Movie Trailer Voice Guy and his cronies got their paws on it. I really hope this doesn't turn into a Creature Feature. On the other hand, Signs was marketed as a Creature Feature and turned out to be about much bigger things. Hmm.
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Round these parts? Have your READ AICN Talkback? No M. Night dissent is not sacrilage around here. And for good reason, he's a bit overrated in my oppinion. And from what a hear a right bastard in person, just a terrible human being. That being said I liked Unbreakable a whole lot (cause I love comics) and I didn't think Signs was as bad as everyone said it was. Other than that everything else he's done sucked.
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by the way, the secret twist to this film is that the mermaids can be killed... BY WATER!!!
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i think it would actually be brilliant and classic
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This will suck.
M Knight is a pompous cockface.
He's not imaginative nor intellectual.
Bryce Dallas Howard was made by Opie Taylor's penis.
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Fuck him. He had one good movie in him (Sixth Sense) and the rest suck ass. Call it the Tarantino syndrome.
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I'm hot-cold with Shyamalan, but that's just shameful.
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Am I the only one who caught that Giamatti's character's name is Cleveland Heap? Shamalamadingdong's twists get worse and worse.
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What is it with Shamalander and water? Bruce Willis's weakness was water in Unbreakable. The aliens in Signs were killed by water. Now there's a portal to another world underwater. I'm trying to remember if there was any water in 6th Sense.
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...he should act rather than direct. If he must, he shouldn't direct his own material. He's a terrible writer.
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I don't know or care if there was any water in the Village . . . just thinking about that movie makes my brain hurt.
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You can at least give the guy some credit. Don't like his writing? Fine, but you have to admit that the guy knows how to get some damn good performances out of his actors (ever see Osment do anything remotely close to Oscar-worthy after Sixth Sense?), and his camerawork is excellent. Personally, I like his films. They actually bother to flesh out real characters, something that most movies wont bother to do.
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but only reveals that to the mermaid at the end before he makes poolside sashimi.
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I'm sure we'll find out everything is really just an elaborate ruse put on by the superintendent -- a plan to scare all the tenants into not knowing what century it truly is.
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or more like one sided hatred. I'm a big fan of M. Night and always look forward to his movies. Sixth Sense was great, so was Unbreakable, and I think Signs is a masterpiece of suspense. May get flamed for that, but look at all the modern horror movies these days. If there was an ounce of M. Night's style in any of these, they would be ten times better. At least having a little more atmosphere to them. He's ahead of the game than a lot of filmmakers working on mainstream movies. I think because he tries to mix suspense, horror with family issues and twist endings. It just screws with people's heads.
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monsters in it. Not a retard in a big costume. What a jip that was in the village. And yeah he put himself in the trailer.
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His style of movies are so slow and boring.
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Ok, here is what pisses me off about this damn thing. We've been told from Day 1 on this film it's a bedtime story he made up or some shit for his kids and it's not, I repeat NOT a horror film. To me that trailer was trying to play it off as another M. Knight Shamalamadindong thriller/horror flick. Why you ask would they do that? Because who the hell cares about a M. Knight fairy tale? Since Unbrekable this guys films have sucked worse thana hooker on a Friday night!
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I just want to revise my comment: "everything else he's done sucked" is a bit harsh. I do give him credit for at least trying something original and I think his movies are all beautifuly shot. I just think that maybe he tries too hard to be subtle/clever/whatever and it comes across as heavy-handed. I will probably be checking this movie out, cause honestly a bad M. Night movie is still better than all the prequel/sequel/remakes that they're pumping out.
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lam-a-ding-dong
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mutually exclusive? Some are about knights and princesses, others are about monsters. So I think that he can probably pull off a scary lullaby.
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BRAIN: Mr. Shyamalyan has done it again Pinky. He has executed a thriller told with the sensibilities of Spielberg and the eye of Hitchcock.
PINKY: Jeepers Brain! What's this one about?
BRAIN: I believe it is a mer person of some kind. I don't recall the name.
PINKY: NARF!
BRAIN: Yes of course, that's it Pinky. Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
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Adrian Brody was hilarious! Way to follow-up The Pianist by playing an unintentionally funny retard.
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You guys have no idea what you want. He's by far the most original storyteller in movies today. Get lives and try to enjoy a movie some day.
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You dont like the villiage? No CGI monster? It was made up? Did that piss you off? Good. Get over it. It was a good movie.
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Michael. He didn't want to be known as Michael Night Shyamalan. That sucks. Michael Night. But I'll bet he liked it back in the day.
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Less Red Herrings. The difference between that movie and his others (all of which I've loved) was The Village was told strictly to support the surprise. I figured it out in the trailer and found the movie to not have much to offer beyond that. Whereas I've seen his other movies a bunch of times and they each work on many levels once I know the twist.
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I agree with those singing M. Night's praises. He doesn't have any bad movies on his resume. And I'm all for stoning non-believers to death. If you do something outside of the norm and original (*gasp*), I suppose you run the risk of being called "self indulgent"(what does that mean in the realm of filmmaking anyway?), but it's one I'm glad he takes.
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It will totally kick ass if Elijah Price leaps out of the water to grab Bryce and hits her with his glass cane!!!!!!
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Not one of them high-falutin' building managers.
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Thank you.
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Special Twist II, it's not actually Bryce Dallas Howard, it's actually Haley Joel Osmond as the Mermaid. Awwwwwww!!!
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I actually want to say that I've enjoyed a couple of his movies, despite me taking the piss earlier. I thought The Sixth Sense had a nice visual style, and I really enjoyed Unbreakable, which is by far his best effort. I thought it was a refershing take on the mythos os the superhero. I wasn't sure what I thought about Signs upon first viewing, but it was pretty stilted and seemed strained after all.
Let's not talk about The Village.
I will probably wait to rent Lady, like I did with all of his movies except Unbreakable.
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Oh no! She's been discovered by Mundanes! Send out Bigby Wolf! :)
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It really does. He should just fuck this and make a Freddy vs Jason vs Alien vs Conan vs Kong trilogy set in 1933 New York.
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but this guy has got his own unique and arguably cool style. I wanted to see this before and want to see it more now. And for the guys saying that they thought this was a bedtime story...it is...just a Shyamalan bedtime story.
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Who else is bringing style and vision back into suspense movies like this? Nobody. Nobody has done it since, like, Hitchcock. There. I said it. If this guy does do a horror movie, it will own your asses!
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"Signs" sucked the wet one. It was the film equivalent of Xanax. "Unbreakable" was the shit, quiet and powerful with great performances. Here's hoping he gets it back on track.
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Glad I'm not the only one who spotted M. Night appearing in his own trailer. I take it as a bad omen for this film overall. It's gotta be a first, even for Shyamalan.
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when you're talking about Shyamalan! This looks way better now. Why do some of you think it has to be a horror movie now? B/C there's some scary creatures? I thought that was him in the trailer but all Indian dudes look the same to me. Except Shyamalan, who appears as a great blinding light who teaches me wisdom and truth. And justice. Excuse me. There's a lady in the water and I'm going to join her.
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does this Sham movie plagiarize?
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..and will probably see it as long as the reviews aren't terrible. Night isn't a great writer, but he's a masterful director and I'll always be interested to see what he comes up with.
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Bryce Howard is so gorgeous. BeeDub, you mean you didn't grab that crappy movie MANDERLAY?!? About 2 minutes of fully naked Bryce (yes even red bush) getting fuxd by a big mandingo. When I put that clip on a loop, I can finish myself off in about...2 minutes.
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I bet this movie has a twist of some sort
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This trailer was ok. Though I'm kind of agreeing with the argument that the bedtime story stuff now seems like a hoax. What kind of film is this now? I have no idea.
But I know I'm going to see it, because I have faith in the actors, and actually, I've mostly liked M. N. S. and his films. Ase someone pointed out; they are non-sequels and non-remakes, and they attract audiences. It is in itself something good for us all, and it should be appreciated I think. Let's hope this one is surprisingly good! -
The Sixth Sense was a good solid film...the rest are all pretty bad.
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but somebody beat me to it.
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Why would the aliens come to our planet if they are harmed by water??? Oh sorry..wrong movie.
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The good fairy tales, pre disnyfication, are horror stories for kids that were told around bedtime to make sure kids behave. They even coined a word based on their most famous chronicaler: "Grim." I'm in the "signs was great" camp, buy the way. It's a masterful suspense story writ on a very personal level. There is NO defending "The Village," however.
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And not just Bryce, either! Good idea to cut the trailer and make it look a bit more than just "mysterious and slow", descriptions that tend to dog Night's stuff (not always unfairly). For the record: liked Sixth Sense, loved Unbreakable ("Do you see any Teletubbies in here?"), didn't like Signs much, and thought The Village was terrific. And what's all the yappin about dropping the bedtime story angle? Don't MOST bedtime stories have scary monsters in 'em, as well as beautiful princesses who must be saved? "Splash", by the way, is one of my favorite romantic comedies of all time; this looks like it'll be a classy update.
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"Why would the aliens come to our planet if they are harmed by water???"......Because they were the same mentally deficient aliens who were confounded by a freakin
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Originated in the late Middle Ages during the time of the Black Death (1348-1341) when 25% of Europe died in agony. They were stories told by parents to help their kids deal with the traumatic loss. The Grimm Brothers just collected them later. So, yeah, they're real and horror stories and tales of the Faerie all in one package. Kudos to M. Night for telling a kid's story that deals with darkness and death.
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Unbreakable gets better with repeat viewings.
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Sure, the ending was a letdown, but once I got over it and watched the movie again, I really enjoyed the writing. I just stop watching towards the end. Once she climbs over that wall the movie kind of loses all its coolness. Anyway, I look forward to this movie. I have not hated any of his flicks.
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Must he be in every movie he directs?
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Of all Night's movies, I believe the only truly poor one was The Village. It was entirely too predictable. The performances were passable, but not great. But even then, at least The Village was original. Sure, I was also disappointed in the tremendous lack of story logic in Signs, but it made for an interesting story about faith, and as such, was not a total disappointment. Unbreakable was simply awesome, and easily my favorite. Sixth Sense's only fault is its lack of replay value - it's otherwise flawless. I am looking forward to this one. Whoever said that M Night comes off a little heavyhanded was right. He needs to recognize that his audience is smarter than he thinks they are. Other than that, he's a fine filmmaker, and one I admire greatly.
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I am probably dead wrong about this, but I'm going to take a stab at what I think this movie is about. I think Bryce Dallas is a creature from "the Blue World", a fantasy world that's sort of like paradise. If you are lonely (like Cleveland Heap), and you go to the Bue World, you are not lonely there. If you are sick here in this world, over there in the blue world you are not sick, etc. Everything is perfect there except for an evil creature that the inhabitants of the Blue World have recently discovered, and are not able to get rid of. Now, on our world there's war, disease, famine, terrorism, hostility, etc. Every terrible thing we see happening in our world on a daily basis. Bryce Dallas comes to our world to take a few chosen people to the Blue World(there's more creatures like her that are in charge of carrying out this duty around the world. This creatures are very sensitive and fragile). But she must interact with everyone and get to know their hearts first, so that she knows who deserves to leave this world behind and go to the sublime paradise. Now, the evil creature, resenting the humans and wanting to disturb this perfect balance, must stop all of this from happening. The thing is that the humans, in turn, are the only ones who can stop the evil creature. So, in the end it's a symbiotic relationship between the humans and the inhabitants of the blue world. Crazy as all of that sounds, believe it or not, that's what I'm expecting to see as I sit down to watch this movie. Or a somewhat similar story to that. Say what you will about M. Night, but the man can make a very pretty looking movie. No shot is wasted. And with that...the rest is silence.
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FART!
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...who's M. Night Shamalamadingdong?
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that should be the tag line anyway. But paul giamatti is still good.
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Arent we witty and creative
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that she peed in the pool ... nuff said.
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What the fuck? That's pushing the whole cameo thing a bit far. Did Hitchcock ever do that? cos that's surely the only reason for this.
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I'm guessing this is gonna be another painfully slow film which exists purely for the sake of the twist ending. I'd rather watch the ps3 press conference.
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of his last four, he's batting 3 for 4 so I'll give this one a chance (let's ignore Wide Awake)
at least its something original. it's not a sequel or remake. if it also happens to be GOOD, well, what else do you want? though he can be heavy handed and he does have flaws as a filmmaker, he seems to be one of the only ones that can make hit films that are simply original stories and not MI:8 with Tom Cruise. -
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after seeing that stranger than shit Doco about him...
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...like he was some sort of massiah. and then finding out he produced it, I just can't take the man seriously naymore. and I find his films very pretentious. but Unbreakable is one of my all time favourites. And i didn't see the twist in sixth sense coming. kudos for that.
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director in the world right now at creating films with tense, creepy atmospheres to them. Name one other director that puts audiences on the edge of their seats like he does. Who? Wes Craven? James Wan? NOBODY. His writing can be faulted at times but the guy is fucking talented. No question.
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this film is about a war between mer people and were-people who just happen to live under swimming pool. this film is going to bomb. it looks like crap. I was a fan of m. night untill the village. which i hated beyond words. the ending of that movie was terrible.
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But as a Shyamalan fan, I think this looks good. I wish they hadn't given so much of the story away in the trailer, though that's the least of its problems. To paraphrase a internet movie messageboard cliche: Fuck trailer voiceover guy, fuck him until he is dead.
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Is his possessory credit font.
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Seems to me M. Night can work up tension and set-pieces like very few directors can but he can't seem to construct an entire consistent or cohesive whole. The alien moments in Signs, the coming-of-age of Willis as hero in Unbreakable, the odd jolt in 6th sense and even aspects of the Village all display skill and control that very few Hollywood directors get anywhere near but they are usually are allied to about the dumbest most contrived and poorly-thought out plot ideas and situations you'll see this side of Mission Impossible 3. I'm all for allegory, non-realism, the fairy tale etc and on-screen 'poetry' but when Joacqin Pheonix reached for that baseball bat that really prompted the biggest 'for fuck's sake' from me in the cinema for years. The worst kind of signposting and just plain stupid. He needs someone to stand over him and act as an editor or a sounding board, judging by his insistence of casting himself in narcissistic cameos I can't see this happening anythime soon. Unless this film tanks of course....
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this guys movies suck ass. the sixth sense was the only good movie he made and even that movie you cant watch more than twice.i bet i know the surprise twist ending to this one......the lady is a dude.
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a magical creature from another world dies! Shame. On. You.
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from the wolf thingy? And Giamatti naked made me throw up in my mouth...
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I was vaguely intrested in the teaser, but this looks like more of the same. PAAAAASSSS!
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Yeah, Hitch did appear in his own trailers, usually addressing the audience directly. In PSYCHO's trailer, he takes the audience on a tour of the Bates Motel grounds. In THE BIRDS' trailer, he dines on a chicken and is pecked at by a caged bird in his study. Hitch was one of the early directors who the audience knew as a personality (like Sturges and Lubitsch and Capra), and he definitely exploited it.
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"round these parts," hating MNS isn't sacrilege, it's required for membership. Every time there's an MNS thread, all the haters come out to flog their favorite whipping boy. Well, I'm one of the minority here who has loved, not liked, loved every one of his films and I can't think of another director whose films I will consistently see in the theater. This story actually reminds me of a Charles de Lint novel (not a particular one, just his style), the sort of urban fantasy thing where there's a fairy story element in an urban setting, but there's always a darkside. I wouldn't mind seeing some of his stuff adapted to the big screen, especially Forests of the Heart.
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the village but this trailer didn't hook me at all. I will see it because i like his movies and Paul Giamatti.
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Let's see, Sixth Sense was from Orson Scott Card's "Lost Boys" and The Village was ripped off from the award-winning book "Running out of Time".
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...for what it's worth: I think UNBREAKABLE is a masterpiece. SIGNS has its moments but shoots itself in the foot too many times. SIXTH SENSE is okay, but that was marred for me because, having figured out the twist pretty much during the anniversary dinner scene, I thought it was too obvious, so there must be a really GREAT twist coming. That one breaks its own logic as well when it wants, but at least it had Osmet and Collette's amazing performances. (Not to mention an unrecognizable Donnie Wahlberg!) The Village has enough interesting stuff going on that it's not the utter failure so many say -- but, yeah, it's mighty bad.
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I'm waiting for the Dallas ending. Sooner or later Nighty-Night will use it. Don't be surprised to see the protagonist in one of his movies wake up at the end and find it was (say it with me now) ALL JUST A DREAM!
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I love it how Shamalyan has turned into one of the worst directors despite the fact he doesnt do remakes or sequels in the eyes of a talkbacker. Shmalayan bashing here is so lame and predictable and makes little sense since theres far worse directors out there.
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That's a pro in my book. This looks interesting, though the trailer wasn't perfect. Anyone notice night in his cameo sequence? I dunno why he insists on doing that. Village looked and sounded great, but it lost so much steam in the second half I was really underwhelmed. Plus, who didn't see that twist coming?? Part of the problem there was the ad campaign that made it seem like a thriller when it wasn't... That why many were disappointed I think The same thing may happen here. I will probably see this, though. I like the idea of dark fairy tales.
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Very interesting that they are again marketing M. Night's movies as the suspenseful thriller. Their only motive is to get people in the seats and that worked up some fucking money for The Sixth Sense and Signs. So, why not continue the trend? I think M. Night purposefully puts a little movie into a bigger one so he can get released on a huge scale. People wanted to see aliens in Signs, it was marketed that way, but was about a priest and his family trying to regain his faith. Village was essentially about Bryce's character and getting back to her Joaquin, which was masked by the wooded creature plot and the twist. If the studios market them as these little love stories or whatever, no one would see them. That's why people were disappointed with Signs because they looked at the alien thing too much; wanting something like Independence Day or something. What I like is the little present that he hides in every film he makes, which makes it more exciting for me. So, ultimatly, my prediction is that this is a love story between Giamatti and Bryce, marketed as a horror movie with wolves.
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...in my cool book, Merrick. Glad to see one of the siterunners taking a stand against pretentious film making. I used to get some very nasty retorts from folks when I dared suggest Shyamalan wasn't the second coming of Hitchcock, but that was before the Village clued them in to the limited number of tricks in that particularly pony's bag. I enjoyed the Sixth Sense the first time through but, when I went back to see if the twist was supported throughout the film, it didn't quite hold up (whereas with The Usual Suspects, going back to rewatch with the knowledge of the twist actually makes some of the performances that much better). Gave him the benefit of the doubt with Unbreakable and was mostly pleased with what was a very fresh and real-feeling take on the comic book hero genre. If only they hadn't made such a big deal of the big reveal at the end...it almost felt like anti-climax and was my first indication that Shyamalan might be addicted to/dependent on twist endings to distinguish his films. I stop the movie after the breakfast scene when I rewatch it now. Signs just blew. For a watered down (quite literally) retread of War of the Worlds, it succeeded in making the logic of the source material (which has always made serious sci fi fans snicker "how would Aliens with interstellar travel capability not know enough to think about germs or contaminants while planning out their decades-in-the-making invasion of earth?") seem impeccable by comparison. Here's an idea, Shyamalan aliens: wear a slicker next time you visit a planet that's more than 70% water. If the message of signs was: "Don't think so much and have faith in God," I guess it worked for a generation of voters. And we saw where that landed us. Then Night telegraphs the oh-so-topical twist in The Village from the very first trailer and wonders why the movie is "spoiled" for so many folks before its release? I was really hoping Lady would be a straight-up kid-friendly fantasy, like it was being billed earlier, so I could hold out hope for something more mature and meaningful (sans twists) down the road from Night. But he's obviously still stuck in his "years-of-watching-Twilight-Zone-reruns-have-given-me-a-much-more-developed-sense-of-irony-than you" mode, and that just bores the ever-loving fuck out of me.
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a CGI John Candy is the monster coming back to take revenge on the mermaid for taking Tom Hanks
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the studio wants you to think that it's another M. Night thriller. That will get most of the american public in the seats. All they think is, "hey it's that guy with the weird name who made that creepy film about the kid who sees dead people." Remember when they showed the teaser in front of Harry Potter 4? teenagers and housewives all gasped and were thrilled when his name popped up. But, really, who knows, we could get a really mature M. Night film that will always inevitably be marketed differently. Believe me, I would like to see him branch and stop making twist ending films, but I can't believe, based on his previous films, that the trailer we saw is that limited.
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...M. Night's fan club, so I won't even try to change your mind about the twist in the Sixth Sense. I will even go so far as to agree with you to a point. Upon a first viewing, up until the moment you realize Bruce is dead (whether that coincides with when he realizes it or not is inconsequential), the movie appears flawless. That's because you aren't looking for the flaws. I figured out he was dead pretty early in the film and even made a joke out loud about "wouldn't it be wacky if...?" (that got me quite a few dirty looks on the way out of the theater). But I enjoyed the film right up until that theory was confirmed by the "big reveal" because I wasn't really looking for evidence to support the theory. I was enjoying the film instead of studying it. When I went back and watched the movie again, I was struck by several convenient inconsistencies. Not the least of which being how is it possible that Bruce didn't realize he was dead? The movie took place over the course of several days. He didn't sleep, shit or eat in all that time. What was he doing between scenes? Why wasn't his character more confused if he was just blijnking in and out of existnece? How did he get on the bus without paying his fare? How was he able to take notes? Little things, yes, but they add up and make subsequent viewings less seamless. I'm not saying Sixth Sense is a crap film by any estimation. It was a good idea and well-acted, but relied a bit too much on trickery and a lot on suspension of disbelief. Again...not a bad movie, just never as good as the first time through. Unbreakable's a better film because the twist isn't really important to the story at all and the rest of the film is just as enjoyable without said twist (moreso, in fact, for me). The irony is, if Night hadn't put a twist or big reveal on the end of Unbreakable, people wouldn't have come to expect that sort of thing from him every time out. They wouldn't have scrutinized his subsequent works (or gone back and scoured the Sixth Sense like I did) for clues and inconsistencies. Combine this "on guard" approach to viewing his films with how lazy he got as a writer after everyone hailed The Sixth Sense as flawless and masterfully constructed. He's pretentious because he's out of touch with his audience, thinking: "If they were willing to completely overlook the little logical inconsistencies in the Sixth Sense in exchange for the twist payoff, then surely they'd be willing to turn their brains completely off for Signs (which didn't have any of the redeeming qualities of a Sixth Sense) and The Village (which had no redeeming qualities whatsoever)." He's his own worst enemy at this point. I'm just another fucking observer who isn't going to pay $10 a pop to watch him stroke his own ego and not challenge himself. Tarantino syndrome, indeed, but for different reasons than whoever used that term above stated.
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Ok, I agree with the poster who says that M. Night is a good director, and also a good writer, I have enjoyed myself watching every one of his films, (except for that one scene in Unbreakable where he is on that rapists back, and being tossed around into the wall, that was funny when it shouldnt have been, it went on too long and it looked like something out of Airplane). He is original, even his borrowed stuff seems new. In the world of Euwe Boll, and Paul W.S Anderson, Joel Shumacher, and the list goes on and on he is a bright and shining star. Keep it up M. Night, he hasnt bad a poor movie yet, and at the pace he is going I cant wait to see what he is putting out in 5 or 6 years. Plus, Bryce Howard man, im biting my hand like Lenny as we speak.
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You always seem to spend quite a bit of energy ripping apart his films at every MNS talkback. I just don't agree that his movies "rely" on twists. I agree that the ending of Unbreakable (the subtitled part) ruined an otherwise flawless film, but neither Signs or the Village were reliant on twists - these weren't "tricks" for the audience, but premises. It didn't matter if you were surprised about the "twist" of Village - it's about how you assess the motivations of the village elders and what it says about these characters and their situation. For me, the Village is a great allegory for our time. And I'm not even going to get into it with you over your water-nitpicking issues in Signs. That's your little obsession, but it never bothered me about the movie. I just don't buy the argument for "lazy" writing. I've found every one of his characters to be interesting and full of depth. You don't like him, we get it. But it doesn't mean your summary judgement of MNS is the final Word.
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...differ. For me, until MNS does something to change my opinion of him as a lazy writer and derivative director who's become complacent through his reliance on the same essential gimmick, that is the final word. I repeat: For me. You're obviosuly entitled to your own opinion and I can respect that it differs from mine. But your simply disagreeing with me in no way makes my equally valid opinion in any way "off," as you put it. I can live with the idea that maybe not everyone agree M. Night is a hack. Why can't you live with the idea that maybe not everyone must agree he's some sort of genius? Perhaps because, deep down, you're afraid I'm right and don't want to be reminded of it? Oh...and for the record...the water ridiculousness in Signs is hardly my issue alone. It's a fairly common and valid complaint about the total lack of logic in that film. Cheers.
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having seen nearly all his films. he has hoist himself on his own petard. ie the twist. He cannot escape from that. His last three movies were all disney films. so I am suprised that for his first warner film we are getting more of the same. It would have been good if someone had said hey why dont you make a film without a twist. So it does seem that commercially warners have played it safe and stuck to his winning formula. I liked the shot with the moon over the swimming pool but this thing looked cheap.
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...the f/x seems nice and I generally love M.Night's stuff but the trailer didn't grab me. Here's hping Paul G and Bryce Howard can give us some performaces to make this great.
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Though Shalamalamadingdong is not always 100% successful in his attempts, I do think his work is interesting and his films are well cast and he is good getting a lot out of his actors. I look forward to this film, and I love fairy tale characters, so - BONUS! Kind of like the comic book Fables told from the Mundy point of view.
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For culling all of his films from existing ideas (yeah, who doesn't do that?) he creates a believable world in each of his movies. For me at least.
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Greatly preferred it to Signs. I am interested in the subject matter for Lady.
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that are repeated throughout their work? Don't even some of the REALLY GREAT filmmakers do this? It's rather common.
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Did I mention that? And I'm still bitter. oooh so bitter. I think I can find it in my heart one day to forgive you though, Mr. Craig Kilborn.
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on what the purpose of a talkback is. I know most people think that something is given a thread just so they can bitch about it, but I'd like to think the purpose of a talkback is to discuss the subject. I'm only pointing out your propensity to show up at every MNS talkback to declare your deep seated hatred for his films and why you think he's a hack. Just seems kinda pointless, you know. If you don't like him, why do you feel the need to dissertate about it every time? And your strange assertion that I disagree with you because I secretly agree with you is what lacks logic, not the plot of Signs. As far as your criticisms, "derivative" is the weakest criticism I can think of - what movie or director is not "derivative" of something? And none of his films are sequels, so he's probably less derivative than most genre directors. Try as hard as I might, I can't think of another director who consistently writes and directs interesting genre films with deep characterization, emotional moments and great atmosphere. But yeah, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, but I'm perfectly entitled to challenge it.
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Oh a hot chick is in my pool and now I have to save the world. This never happens to lonely losers, lol.
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...but do try and understand what I'm saying, first. I most certainly never said I hate all of M. Night's films (I've said multiple times in this thread alone that I very much enjoy Unbreakable and can still appreciate the Sixth Sense despite its flaws). Basically the films I hate are Signs, which is just dumb, and the Village, which is completely self-absorbed. I'm definitely here to disucss the film maker -- warts and all. And of all my criticisms of Shyamalan, you latch onto the "derivative" one because you feel it's somehow invalidated by the fact all art is perceived as somehow derivative of something else? Talk about weak. I only brought up derivative to remind you and the many others claiming M. Night is the only guy in Hollywood doing anything new or innovative that he's doing neither. Try again, oisin. Try harder.
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Sorry it's not going to be about some fanboy crapola you already know in and out. Brilliant or not at least it's original and that's why this director is so valuable. He makes commercially viable original films which, moreover, tend to have pretty frikkin' interesting premises. Signs of course was a little less original but really quite different from other efforts. I like the director and his movies. So what if it isn't perfect, what the hell is?
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Seriously. M. Night pissed me off with the last ten minutes of Signs. M. Night absolutely infuriated me with that waste of two hours The Village. And this...this looks just as retarded. Prediction: We are ALL living in the mermaid's world and the apartments (or hotels, whatever they are) are the only remnants of human civilization...because this is all a dream and we're all really plugged into the Matrix, soon to be rescued by John Constantine, that bitch from Memento and that annoying little fucker from Battle of Shaker Heights.
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His first name was Manoj....and not Michael. The Night was thrown in there and made up.
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I have enjoyed all four of M. Night's films since The Sixth Sense. Yes, that means I'm a fan of The Village. I'm probably one of the only people on the planet that really dug that movie, but I stick by my opinion. I think Bryce is brilliant in the movie, the pacing is great, and the twist is so loopy that I think it actually works. So, when I heard that M. Night was teaming with Bryce again (and he put Giammati in the lead role!), I put Lady in the Water high on my list of must-sees for 2006. But the teaser just reeked and that early review posted here on AICN months ago made the movie sound far less interesting than I had originally hoped. So it was with great excitement that I clicked on the link to check out this new trailer, hoping to get a clearer glimpse of the next great M. Night flick. Instead, I got some crappy looking trailer for what looks like an overblown cheesefest. My excitement level for this movie has officially diminished.
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...especially for someone who obviously loves storytelling as much as MNS. How many of you have finished a screenplay, or shot a film? Yet you come off as such experts on the the subject of this complex craft. You toss terms around that you might not fully understand. Put that hate-energy into writing a story of your own - Take the challenge. Flaming is easy. Writing is difficult.
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...what's easy is throwing around the tired and logically fallaccious argument that, if you haven't written a screenplay, you aren't qualified to render an opinion on it or the movie made from it. It's a variation on "make your own movie or shut up" which is right up there with "get a girlfriend and move out of your mother's basement" in the hallowed halls of lame aicn debate tactics. And, speaking of tossing around things that one doesn't understand, you really ought to be careful with your presumptions. I happen to know there are a fair number of successful published and/or produced writers in our midst. Conversely, not everyone who loves a thing is necessarily good at it.
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...my above typo. But, as an M. Night fan, I'm certain you'll overlook that one little error in appreciation of the larger point I'm trying to make. ;)
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The Sixth Sense: ghosts are nice if you just try to UNDERSTAND them: lame! What about mad, vengeful, psychotic ghosts? plus I say it coming ten miles away; anyone ever see Carnival of Souls?
Signs: Pa! There's a scuba diver in the living room!
The Village: Satanist hedgehogs everywhere; what be thour meaning, brethern?
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...Hey CR: I come in peace, not a rabid defender of MNS - and wasn't attempting to single you out...and we all know that there is NO Point on any thread that hasn't already been made a thousand times, but yet here we are, typing - Such is the power of storytelling!
-Firstly, (about my tired assumption) I meant no implication that not having made a film renders one 'incapable' of critiquing, (as you are obviously capable and intelligent, although possibly not a filmmaker) My point was that MAKING a film definitely adds a deep well of additional understanding of the creative challenges...oh, and maybe it softens the knee-jerk 'tear it apart' reflex that I see on this board...(the response is usually replaced with the 'feel his pain' knee-jerk response). That applies to any filmmaker, MNS, The W Brothers, Stone, Spike, Spielberg, etc...
Basically, I just wanted to insert into this lovely marketplace of ideas, a simple notion: that film is an art form, and by its very nature subjective...Everyone will process a story through their own personal filter - so why not adopt language more suited to personal art forms? (for example: 'I didn't enjoy' instead of 'It sucks')
anyway - thanks for the discourse, and the good news is that the art form will flourish and evolve despite anything we say - storytellers will continue to emerge and tell the stories that turn them on...and whoever digs those stories will benefit, and whoever doesn't, will always have other options. It's a win-win.
Ciao mes amis
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I mean honestly the time the majority of you take to rip him apart you would think hes Uwe Boll or something. Sorry but hes not one of the worst filmakers ever. Im always up for something different and original which is what Shamalayn provides even if it doesnt always work.
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or did you not read the early review for the film.
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with bryce and paul. hell yeah. well at least it's not another fuckin remake.
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to be a bad storyteller. It's not enough to be merely flawed or unsatisfying; you have to be ED FUCKING WOOD. Please. What's with the race to the bottom?
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...worthy after Sixth Sense?" Yeah, as much as the movie sucked, he was incredible in AI. I really liked 6th sense and thought Signs was pretty good...but even Unbreakable was way overrated. Sure, it was well made, but it was a half hour of story dragged out to feature length. You figure out Willis's thing with about an hour more of "hints" about it to go. The only slightly interesting payoff is the Sammy Jax reveal at the end, and it's not worth the slog of an entire movie's worth of telling us what we already know. There's no fucking way I'm going anywhere near this turkey. Stupid fucking white people.
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You can say what you want about MNS and his work but one thing is undeniable. His films make money, even the bad ones. He averages about 183 million per picture on 60 million or less budgets. Sure he show up in his own movies. So did Hitchcock, every one of them; Peter Jackson does it as well, every one of them; and I'm pretty Sure Mel Gibson does it too. So What. It's a way for a director of a film to get more into his work, literally, and touch base with HIS fans. They all do something to do that, a little nod to those in the know, if you will. Personally, I was a little let down by The Village but by no means was it unwatchable. A lot of you MNS haters make him out to be like that waste of filmmaking UWE BOLLE or Paul WS Anderson; no one is that bad. He likes plot twists and sometimes they work out great. I will give a personal nod to Paul WS Anderson, Resident Evil would not have been nearly as acceptable if he hadn't chosen Marilyn Manson to do the creepy industrial score in that film. Not too suprisingly RE2 sucked big hairy balls. But you guys need to kind of lay off MNS he does come up with moving stories and they do bank and pay for themselves with profits and despite The Village I know I, and many others will go see his movies.
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