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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with something really special! It appears a pretty big plot point was revealed by Hugh Jackman on Leno tonight. Thanks to the wide wide world of the internet, we have the clip he brought. I'm currently sitting in the Alamo Drafthouse downtown, sucking off the free wireless internet... so, the theater is extremely noisy as the crowd awaits the third and final film at QT Fest tonight, the one and only ROLLING THUNDER. I haven't heard any of the dialogue on the clip as a result of the noise level here, but the visuals are pretty impressive. The nit-picking comic book geek in me says that the fastball special isn't performed correctly, but... well, I'll let you see the thing. Potential spoilers for the pure! Enjoy!!!
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They gave us Sentinels and a fastball. I'm in love again.
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somewhere in the headline or the article. And as far as Rolling Thunder's concerned...how many times must we be told, treat your returning Vets kindly, otherwise they'll go all psycho-John McClane on your asses.
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The soundtrack for that clip was a nice chunk of cheddar. And technically, we didn't really get the Sentinel, just his head. And not really a fastball special, but great to see Colossus in action anyways.
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i scooped you on the spidey 3 talkbacks
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Now, in that movie, they did it right when he threw Elastigirl to save JackJack. this looks fake.
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THIS CLIP NEEDED MORE SENTINEL!
Colossus looks about as good as I could have hoped though. Traditionally, a fastball special is Peter throwing Logan like a baseball. That would just look weird here, so what they do works. -
I was looking forward to X3, but that inept fuckup has Ratner written on every frame. Who next? Joel Schumacher?
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It opened a popup of webcam previews. Hard to say what I'd rather watch; fastball specials or looped softcore. 'Meh' to both I suppose...
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That was terrible. I guess the budget wasn't big enough to show the entire Sentinel so they did some cheap tricks to make it seem like the sentinel was there. Even the CG head looked cheap. This movie is just a small crappy movie masquerading as a blockbuster.
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The Sentinel looked wrong. Way way wrong. Other than that it was kind of boring.
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and I agree, that's a cheap way to do the Sentinels. Let's see one full on, not implied. And yeah, that was a crappy-looking fast ball special.
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Hate to be negative, but that clip kinda sucked. The effects on Colossus looked pretty half-assed, and the whole scene just felt off. Plus, that little tornado spin thing that Storm does looks REALLY stupid. So far I have seen nothing to make me think that this film is going to be any good. It's a shame, as the first two are pretty damned good. Oh well, at least I have Superman Returns to look forward to this summer.
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The clip was terriable. Halle is garbage, the Fastball special was garbage. I was decent until they showed Wolvie flying thru the air much too slow. Why was his legs bent? It could've worked or could work if they cut out the bad wire work. Halle is awful. This woman should never have been cast as Storm. I've got no problem with halle as an actress, but as storm?? No.
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Holy god those were some terrible effects! What the fuck? It looks like the cheesy Statue of Liberty fight from X1 all over again. I guess thats what you get for rushing the movie into production. Nice going Fox. I was actually looking forward to this movie, thats one scratched off the list (right behind Poseidon thanks to the poor review posted here).
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Collosus looked Terrible despite what brett ratner promised the finished product would look like. Spinning him around and seeing him fly, I mean jesus they should just leave the wire in the shot since it's so fucken obvious. Nice way to squeeze in a sentinel Ratner you jackass, Congradulations on making Street fighter 2 without van damme.
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I spelled colossus wrong...my bad.
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Those line readings were stiffer than my dick when she took her top off in 'Swordfish.'
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that i actually enjoyed it. nifty modernization of the sentinel (come on, did you really think they'd be purple!?) unlike anyone else here, i'm actually willing to admit that i'm anticipating it enough to see it opening day.
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but that clip is still disapointing.
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Well you heard it, you know how bad it was.
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Just use two big lights for the Sentinel and build a cheap looking head....movie looks great.
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I keep hoping this movie proves me wrong, but that clip wasn't very good at all...Colossus was just barely passable, and the sentinel...I didn't expect purple, but maybe seeing the body fall forward or something...
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dumbass fanboys are still going to make this movie hugely profitable whether it sucks or not. There is no incentive to actually make it good. The producers will still buy lots of coke and whores with your admission money while you blindly go see a piece of shit movie..
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...will AICN ever stop leeching bandwidth from other sites and host their own shit? Just rename this place "Ain't Then Dead Links" and be done with it ya cheap bastards.
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I saw it on Leno tonight, and was incredibly disappointed.
As another poster said, it's clearly a Danger Room exercise, which explains Wolverine's blase attitude... but the effects are terrible. Colossus looks crappy, the fastball special looked like anything but, and the sentinel...? I could care less if it were purple or not, but why does it look like a reject from the 80s? Did the X-men go back in time or something? In the year 2006, (particularly with Shiar tech, given they are in the DR), I think a halfway modern robot look could be managed... -
Seriously, after KING KONG, nothing less than a full-on Sentinel will appease me since it'd be about 10X easier than a 50 ft tall living, breathing creature covered in hair. For God's sake, don't do it at all if you're not going to do it right.
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I kinda figured there was a Danger Room sequence with Sentinels in it since the trailer with Logan in a flaming battlefield, looking nonchalant and purple beams coming down from the sky behind a semi-flying Storm.
All I can say to this clip is that it's better than I was anticipating, but the pacing is off, and the dialogue is a bit wooden. I do like the Sentinel head as opposed to the sketch one that supposedly rolls up into a ball or disk as featured in the X2 DVD features.
As for the Fastball Special, c'mon nitpickers... I mean sure, Colossus doesn't necessarily shot puts or discus throws Logan in the comics, but if Cudmore picked up Jackman and thrust him by his feet, it would look really off due to the fact that the size proportions of the characters in the comics are drastically off in the movies. The alternative of grabbing him by the collar and chucking him is a bit more acceptable to me.
What really irked me was the very end, where Logan just walks around the head in a split second after the head hits the ground, since when did Logan gain Nightcrawler's abilities? It's not a nitpick on character, so much as it's just not quite right in terms of timing for the film.
As for not seeing the whole Sentinel, I like that it's not fully shown. When a bad guy, or in this case robot, isn't shown fully, it makes it seem more menacing and scarier than seeing a giant robot on a clear sunny day. You guys want to bitch about how shitty the CG looked in that mere clip, you'd all have a field day if it all was shown on a clear sunny day, handed to you on a silver platter of fan-boy purist whining.
I'm as big a X-Fan as anyone, and I do like things to lean towards staying true to the core material. But let's face it, the comic films rarely ever go 100% to source matter, and when you consider the X-Movie-verse is already established as not pure to canon, you have to allow a bit of wiggle room or just stay miserably crabby in your uber-geekness.
This was a good clip of the movie, not the best, but good enough for me. Hopefully X3 will be a little more refined before it comes out, otherwise another gay cowboy/samurai/aborigine/eskimo film will come out and get awards and press time just because of a lame political statement.
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There are some scary floaty headlights up in the sky obscured by fog! Let's pretend it's a sentinel! Whatever shall we do?"
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what discipline is your honorary degree from?
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talking from ass? Your degree, is talking from ass, yes?
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c'mon--how many of us were bummed when we thought that there weren't going to be any sentinels in this movie? now, with confirmation of a full-blown sentinel--albiet just glowing eyes and a head, at the moment--we're totally bashing it. i guess i shouldn't be shocked--however, even though i still think this movie isn't going to be what it should--dude, c'mon--isn't it kinda cool that they included them....?
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the head looked like a cheap transformer. The headlight eyes were very cool tho. Very Iron Giant.
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But please change the music. I had the impression I was watching a Disney movie. SENTINELS! Cool ! Bring the shit on.
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I TOLD YOU THERE WAS A GAWD DAMNED SENTINEL IN THE FUCKING DANGER ROOM!!! SOME OF YOU LAUGHED, THE REST IGNORED!!! HAHA!!! IT FEELS SOOOO GOOD TO BE RIGHT!!! OF COURSE IT LOOKED LIKE SHIT, BUT I WAS RIGHT!!! AND I BETCHA ANYTHING I'M RIGHT ABOUT THE HIDDEN FACE IN THE CLOUDS IN THE SPIDER-MAN TEASER IMAGE!!! (Mirror the image and flip it. There are teeth between the wrists and eyes at Spidey's fingertips.) WOOOOOO!!!
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I'm not a hater, honestly, but...meh. It sounds like they had someone else dub in Wolvie's voice...without picutre.
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Now THAT'S exciting. Gotta love those highly targeted adsense links.
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That looked like a b movie clip, the sentinal head looked cheap and plastic and had no impact, wolverine didnt even act or sound like wolverine in the previous films, and it was very cheesy. very sad!
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Jackman's voice was weird as hell, but I really enjoyed the clip. Wacky danger room fun.
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because that clip looked like shit? no....just in general.
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my tiny little thread of hope that this will be good. That clip WAS lame though, and it had at least three or four of the trailer clips in it! I just hope it's one of those extremely rare, "we actually saved all the shit-hot stuff for people who see the movie" gambits. Hugh's still da man.
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shitty Rush Hour movies after this. Marvel quick, get all your major projects linked to cool directors whilst he's busy elsewhere.
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Considering one would think they'd try to choose one of the better clips from the film (although I guess 'completed effects' is probably also a criteria), this is not promising.
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"Ratner-haters" are going to be camping-out in line so you can be the "first" -pardon the talkback-expression - to see Wolvernine fight the Sentinel and give Fox millions in box-office receipts? I mean, come on, what the holy hell are you expecting from part 3? The style of this series has already been established w/the first 2 films as jacked-up B movies that deviate from the source material...and yet, they managed to be very successful - and LOVED by most of the aforementioned haters here. Fox & Rat aren't gonna reinvent the wheel @ this point and give us the "Astonishing X-Men all of a sudden complete w/costumes!...what they will be giving us is something that is as close to Bryan Singer as humanly (or mutantly) possible...otherwise, they lose big bucks when we all stay away.
Do u really think they're gonna jeopardize this series & the upcoming Wolverine series w/a totally crap film here?...they're crazy but they're not stooopid. So fear not true beliver, i'm sure we'll pretty much get more of the same this time out...at least until the day they wise up & bring Whedon in to adapt his own stories...what-if indeed. -
Music score sucked. Effects on the sentinal were....hmmm...what Sentinal? All I saw was a cloud of smoke and two out door porch lights. You can clearly tell Halle and Jackman don't really want to be there....just like me on opening day. This movie will suck. It will truly be The Last Stand. Thanx for rushing it and cheapin' out Fox. Now please, fire Avi Arad so we can get some fresh ideas out of these characters.
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I can't beleive you mental shortcomings haven't figured out the idea of a TEASER!! You all want your X-wetdream to be perfect in every way. If ya don't like it, don't go to it and stop judging an entire movie on 30 seconds.
BTW it looked cool, it'll make more money than any of us have, and the Wolverine series will be cool too.
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I can't believe I mispelled believe. Damn fingers!
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I liked the trailer a lot in that it seemed to imply carrying on the same tone as the Singer films. But this clip makes me...uneasy. Not Batman and Robin uneasy, but at least Batman Forever uneasy. It just felt cheesy - "Hey that was my last cigar", "Don't get your panties in a bunch" etc. And the music as another poster pointed out was just...wrong. I don't know, maybe I'm taking too much from a tiny clip but I'm worried. It was cool to see Wolverine Vs Optimus Prime though.
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haters and fanboy's come together in unison with a great big bear hug and nitpic every little detail in a comic book movie. Oh the head didn't look right, Oh it wasn't purple, Oh Colossus didn't throw him right, wah wah wah. This is reality people, the movies gonna look different then it did in the comics. It's only one clip, you can't judge a movie on one clip good or bad. My only problem with it was the sentinals eyes were red when it landed, but when it was standing it obviously blue. My only little nitpik.
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I can see a couple dozen ways that small things could've been done better -- the first and most obvious being Wolverine yelling, "Pete! Fastball Special!" rather than that whole "How's your throwing arm?" thing. A little more hustle would've been nice, too. What I'm remembering here is a TV movie made some years ago of Modesty Blaise. Very true to the characters in a lot of ways, but one of the first ways they went wrong is that Willie didn't hustle. Kinda looked like Dustin Hoffman trying to be James Bond trying to be Batman. Same kinda thing here -- Wolverine shouldn't WALK in combat -- he's a... well, he's a wolverine. A Tasmanian Devil. Compare and contrast with his demolition of Stryker's squad in X2. Jumps down on top of 'em, slashes 'em to ribbons.
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And when the musics, the entire movie suffers. It's the second most important thing to have in a movie, next only to story.
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Having just seen Hostel, I really hated the music. I was expecting something a little more atmospheric and industrial (kinda like Kontroll) to match the visuals, and instead it was closer to '70s CHiPs whakka-whakka ensemble disco. "He's goin' for the drill, whakka-whakka..."
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is the fact that if they HAD shown the full sentinel, the EXACT same people would be bitching that they shouldn't have shown it, and instead let it be a surprise for the theaters
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However, even with the benefit of the doubt, this clip really LOOKS to me like a director trying to cut corners, e.g., "You know, we could save a couple of bucks if we stage it this way."
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Had the misfortune to view the clip on Leno last night and Fox just lost another ticket sale, while Blockbuster will gain one when the DVD bows. The editing is awful. Television programs have demonstrated superior editing than the tripe in this clip. I thought I was watching bad TV movie production with a minimal budget. The acting is also questionable. You really miss Bryan Singer while watching this scene. Yes, Wolverine is true to form and indifferent to the faux threat around him since it is a danger room sequence. However, Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry emote as if they would rather be in prescription drug commercial rather than this shoot. And, as if to plumment the audience even further into the depths of despair, the wire work is obvious and the Sentinel head is laughable - note to Michael Bay before beginning Transformers - this is how not to design a giant robot head. I despised the title of the second film. Alas, the third film will only live up to its title all too well. Superman, where are you?
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Apr 29, 2006 8:45:18 AM CDT
The clip is cut to ribbons to hide as much as possible.
by the true priapic
Listen to the music,its hacked to pieces because they've cut it up.You actually hear Logan dicing the SEnt's head off but don't see it.Ease up,peeps.I'm as worried about this as anyone but the truth is they're still hiding a lot.The script sounds....hmm....I'll still be there.I like Jackman and Paquin.TRust me,the clip is an edit.
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I can almost see Richard Roundtree bouncing along. I gotta a drill and I'm a bad ass Mo'Fo Whacka-Whacka-WHacka.
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:D -this is gonna be soooo great!!
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But I feel like AIC got their revenge on me with this by bitching about them not covering X3. Moreso than anything in that clip, I just felt Logan's tone could have been so much better. It was like the Dick Van Dyke x-men with that fucking awful Marry Poppins music. Anyone who remembers me knows I'm the biggest supporter of this movie, but geepers...yeah, an edit. Let's hope the scene was an edit. And that they change the music.
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Hey, all you sexy-keen Talkbackers! Guess what? While you were at home last night snapping on your surgical gloves and gingerly thumbing your way through your back issues of the Uncanny X-Men so's you could point out the indiscrepancies between the comics and this 45-second clip (by which process, according to these talkbacks, one can effectively form an opinion on the entire 2-hour-plus flick), I was launching my purple-headed Sentinel into each and every one of your Goddamn mothers! Har Har! How does the Mighty Spalding Reese accomplish such a supersexual feat, you wonder? Because I'm Goddamn Mandingo Claus, you bunch of Meelee-Mouthed, Big-Red-Swigging, Pinko Buttfuckers! And how's about this: Ratner is only a marginally less-capable director than Singer! Not enough, you say? Well, then, Mandingo Claus has one more for you: The Usual Suspects isn't half as clever as it thinks it is, and is only good for a single viewing! You got that? Not a modern crime-classic, just a fun little movie with a snarky twist at the end! That's it! Har Har! Now go forth, all of you, and sniff my johnson!
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I love you all. All of you. I mean it. I love every little hair sprouting crookedly out of all of your splotchly little beards. You bunch of little cuties.
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Now suck my cock.
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Fer Chrissake. Grow up. It was a teaser. It was designed to tease. You want to see a sentinal? Buy a ticket and go see the movie. What a bunch of whiney bitches.
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That clip was really , really dreadful...poorly scripted and acted, badly edited, shoddy FX and Wolverine flying in a straight line.....makes X2 look like Lawrence of Arabia.....
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"when I got the movie, I spoke to Brian [Singer], and he said, "Let me give you one good bit of advice." I said "okay," and he said, "Don't read Aint it Cool News. I'm like, "Why?" He's like, "They're just gonna talk s*** about you, and they did the exact same thing about me. They did the exact same thing when I did the first X-Men." So I kind of stayed away from it and just focused on making the film."
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If you don't want people to talk shit about you, don't release a crap clip on a nationwide television show that fails on every, single regard... now Ratner gets kudos from me for Prison Break... but this is the third in a comic-book trilogy, and thus it has to be epic, grand, sweeping... not a fucking Sentinel head hitting the ground with a miniscule thud.
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...You know, this movie might be terrible but that is REALLY beside the point judging by some of the comments here. If they had shown purple sentinels looking exactly like they do in the comics and in full view, you would have wailed: "Waaaah, they may have looked good in the comics but purple onscreen is teh ghey! And what's with showing them like that on TV instead of revealing them in the theaters? Waaaah!" .......If they had shown a fastball just like the comics you would have said "Waaaah, that looks gay! They should have made his flight in the air look more aerodynamically realistic! With his legs held differently!" ........ Now the CGI Colossus isn't good enough for you. Have you already forgotten your bitchy whining about that plastic-mask-with-eyeholes Colossus you were convinced was going to be the final look? Congratulations -- your irrelevant and anal nitpicking regarding this clip has nullified any fear geeks may have instilled in the hearts of Fox execs after the AvP2 script debacle. Thanks for ensuring that we'll get aliens in K-mart after all.
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that looked like a grade school play. What lucky kid got to climb into the rafters with two flashlights to play, "The Sentinals eyes"?
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Doc,I agree but this site has been super-negative from day 1 on X3 and continues to astonish by not having any build up articles at all.One thing is for sure,the X3 site is pretty damn cool.A bit iffy in places but the first time you see those animated characters I think its fair to say a bit of a fan boy grin appears.I didn't mind the clip so much-its obviously aimed to show immediate action in a short space of time and to play on the fanboy need for the big mutie killers to appear.Certainly,I absolutely stand by my opinion that its a hacked together scene.Colossus looks better than he does in those 'real eyes' shots and the fastball aint so bad.I'm still going to see it...uh,sorry ...get the pirate dvd at some point here in China,I expect so sadly I'll end up watching a right shitty copy with heads in front of the camera.Still,here in the East we gone an' got oursel' some real life Sasquatch!Personally,I'd still watch Anna Paquin eat her cereal and commend her perf.BABE!
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If the film was professional in any way, shape or form people would not bitch or moan. Frankly it looks awful.
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!. It does look pretty cheesy. Jackman's delivery is flippant, and the action is simplistic. But I believe that's on purpose, because it's a Danger Room simulation and he just doesn't take it seriously. Thus, the whole tone of the opening will be a bit tongue-in-cheek. But expect Jackman to be in full Wolverine-Berserker mode during the actual climactic fight scenes. @. But even so, it's mighty cheesy, and not a good way to open the movie. Ratner just had to get in some "actoin-comedy" bullshit. #. The only good line was Wolverine's evaluation of Kitty, Bobby, Peter and Rogue: "They're not ready." $. Not to get too nitpicky here, but the scale thing with Colossus and Wolverine wouldn't be a problem if they'd, ya know, hired an actor that was the correct size to play a diminutive Canadian berserker. If Wolvie was 5'2", the 6'6" Colossus could believably toss him like a baseball. %. The sentinel did in fact look like a half-assed 80's robot. But what if that was the point? What if they looked that way because they're just Danger Room simulatoins, and what if when Bill Duke sends out the actual Sentinels, they're actually pretty cool, and do more than hover in the darkness with car headlights for eyes? ^. All in all, I think there might be a slim possibilty that Ratner's doing a fantastic job of lowering fan expectations so we'll be even more blown away by the finished product. &. There's also a pretty big possibility that I'm wrong and movie just sucks. But I'm trying to be optimistic. Note: yeah, the points are numbered wierdly. Please use the correct symbol when discussing. thankyerverruhmuch.
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... and I was just coming around to accepting this movie, after a months and months of hate. It looked like they had NO budget for this movie, the production looks as good as the RUNNING MAN back in the 80's. I pray that music is temp. Also Hugh Jackman's acting doesn't seem as "Logan" as the first two. It's almost as if he's sleepwalking through the part. Jesus....
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Dude, I would've preferred them to actually show a clip containing quality acting and nice subtext. Maybe Wolverine's reaction to Jean being alive. If they spent six months more on the script instead of rushing it, this film would have a lot more confidence from the fans. But they rushed it, and that clip is the result.
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PLANT!!!
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What more do you want? We sat around the majority of our early teen/teen/young adult/adult/struggling-with-pre-middle-age/years wanting nothing more than to convince everyone that the paper and ink stories were called geeks for reading are actually compelling, intricate character-driven works of worthwhile fiction and when the world finally takes notice and puts them on the big screen, we bitch like ritalin-riddled teenage girls who just ran out of minutes on her motorola. Jesus. That clip was great! Everything looked solid, Wolverine was a big an ass as he as ever been, you have the Danger Room, the Colossus transformation looked great and by the way, did you catch Rouge's ass in the head-landing shot? Anyway, I can't imagine what more some people want. If anything, it should be people who have never read X-Men complaining about FX and eye color and throwing motions. We're the ones who understand that stuff, we should defend it to the end. Get off the filmmakers back. Plus, you blame Ratner like he has control of budget and script. He's not Lucas or Steven with unmeasurable amounts of studio pull. Hell, they have their own studios. It's the same thing as Singer's first, which was pushed and financially crippled, but he pulled out a "decent" take on the X-verse. Give it a rest and I'll see you opening weekend.
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Ratner has done the best he could. He's given us, for the most part, everything we wanted (occasional missteps like stacy-x i know) and you guys still find something to bitch about "oh the head looks fake" "not enough sentinel" blah fucking blah...atleast theres a sentinel in the movie and who fuckin knows there could be MORE because i've heard a few times that whatevers in the danger room has been programmed into it from a real world occurance. this movie hasn't even come out and you guys are killing it knowing full well that you'll see this movie sometime in its theatrical run and make up some stupid excuse "oh uh my wife wanted to see it" or "oh my dad (who i currently live with and am 43) wanted to desperately see the wolverine fastball"...even though ratner's the director, he hasn't made a "bad" movie just several "watchable" films, but i think he has much more respect for this film then any film hes done before....thank you for letting me vent
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It doesn't matter how professional the clip could have looked. People would have found something to bitch about. Here's the thing, though. Save this page to your hard drive and come back in a year, after the movie's been out for a while. See who changes their tune. See who's all, "I always supported this film, while you fuckers trashed it" a year from now, even though, at this stage, Ratner can suck their dicks or whatever. I remember when Batman came out. "He can't move his neck!" "Body Armour? Batman in Body Armour? That sucks balls!" "He's all plastic, that blows. I hate it." But now? That's the only way these schmoes will accept a Batsuit. Save these pages and watch and see.
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"Dude, I would've preferred them to actually show a clip containing quality acting and nice subtext." .... You'll get no argument from me there. My point is that instead of bitching about ridiculous things people should voice sensible complaints -- like the one you just mentioned. As I stated, the movie might end up sucking, but asking for sentinels and CGI Colossus and then bitching about them because they did or didn't look a certain way in a chopped up 45-second clip, is deflecting from the serious and very real flaws the film might have as well as cementing the notion that fanboy bitching is NEVER anchored in reality and thus nothing to ever pay attention to.
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http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/703/703723p1.html
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I don't give a damn about Sentinels. They're cool and all, but only if they're a logical part of a plot... and everything about this film (from script reviews to interviews to inside reports) suggests they're upping the action because they don't have a logical story. Now I'm not going opening weekend to this, but if pals come back with a favourable review, I'll see it. I'm just not convinced we're going to get anything other than an overblown action flick.
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The first X-Men was a great film. While I don't hate Ratner, its harder to see him making a similarly good film, because there's nothing on his CV that visually adds up to an X-Men flick... whereas Singer, on $5 million, made the visually rich and fiendishly intricate Usual Suspects.
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Yes, X3 is in the hands of the RATner.
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Don't lump me in with those other assholes. I never complained about the black suits before X1 came out. I never wanted all the X-men characters to be paraded onscreen, with the Danger Room, the Sentinels, Fastball Special, etc. all shoehorned in, just because it would be "kewl". And I am a huge fan of the comics, since 1986. What I want is exactly what X2 gave me (character, story, depth, cool music and effects) and so far X3 doesn't look like it's giving it to me. And up until this clip, I was trying to curb my "hate" for what was happening to this production and try to go into it with a more open mind. If this clip is meant to look cheesy because it's in the Danger Room (or maybe it's not entirely finished?) then it's a bad choice to show it on Jay Leno. *** Come on, man. Two spotlights? And, to quote another poster, "Mary Poppins" music? Holy christ. Watching the last half of X2 makes me weep now as we'll never see what Bryan Singer and company had planned for us with the cliffhanger. Fuck...
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since when does a director have control over bad dialogue? i mean call me crazy but ist that job for the ummm writers?....the SFX are probably still being added and tweaked, Music isn't Ratners choice but rather the composer (who woulda thunk it?) and the acting is moot because that has to do with dialogue
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That's a very good point man. The Rat's pics aren't that visually stunning, he's the epitome of a 'workmanlike' director (hence he'll be around for ever), his films just lack that extra bit of style and bite. Believe me I hope this is fucking mind blowing. Does anybody know who the d.p. is??
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Uh, yeah, the director should have control over all those things. For example, Peter Jackson called for some re-writing during production (even if it's not done by him personall), he gets to choose who he wants to compose the music and provides input to what he wants for each scene (and with the case of KING KONG ended up ditching one composer for another at the last minute... Sam Raimi did the same thing with Danny Elfman on Spider-Man 3). Actors are only as good as their directing. Case in point the STAR WARS prequels. Is Ewan McGregor's acting better in TRAINSPOTTING or EPISODE II? This goes for Steven Speilberg, David Cronenburg, Alfred Hitchcock, you name it. The director is king and has his hand in everything. Unless you are a "for hire" like Brett Ratner, than the studios have you by the balls... or you just don't give a shit enough and just let everyone do whatever they want while you are off with your coke and whores.
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...that I had absolutely no idea what a "fastball special" is.
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I thought it looked pretty cool. Stop whining and either watch or do not watch, but stfu.
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...if they're going to be ruined and suckily handled. Which that was. That sucked big time. Get a director who knows how to handle these things. Ugh. I don't care about full CG; you can obscure the Sentinel if you can't afford to show it all...But two floating headlights in fog??! That was the cheesiest telling of that imaginable. The original two films work because they take their comic origins as fact and treat them as real. This treated the whole thing as comic book cheese, right down to dialogue and delivery. This film will suck soooo bad.
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....rocks, however. Optimism is high in Rob Central.
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I would rather they have cut Halle Berry so they could afford to show the whole Sentinel.
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...but as much as I want to see the movie and have been supportive of it, that clip was cheesy as hell. Wolvie's one liners just seemed way off the mark from what has come previously. And something was off about the Sentinel head.
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big fan here. But the pacing and such was off. It was boring.
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Just because it's from a comic, that means it's okay to not give a shit about getting things right? X-Men 1 made like $600 million worldwide. Fuck you. They're making money off this shit.
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That wasn't a fucking teaser. That was a scene in the movie. A scene - acted, shot, edited, scored. A teaser would be brief glimpses of footage, usually without dialogue and with a temp score. It was a fucking scene not a teaser.
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Come on. It was just fine. The acting? Just as good as the other two movies. Don't you remember the attempt at an accent from Ms. Berry in the first one? Colossus looks as good as we can expect. The fastball special looked great and real. The flying through the air? Just as bad as some of the effects in the first two. The dialogue? Um... Let's go back to those heady days of Storm's dialogue just before she zapped Toad. Characterization? No worse than other comic movies. Batman kills in the first one (Grenades from the hubcaps), Spider-man isn't funny... at ALL... in those two. Peter Parker can't get a line of dialogue out in under five minutes. "M.... J... I... feel... like... I... should... tell... ... ... you... something... but..." Good LORD! Even the all-hallowed Lord of the Rings had characterization flaws (Since when is Samwise a whining little douche?). You didn't see the Sentinel in the clip? You didn't see Kong for THREE FRIGGIN' DAYS (or so it seems)! That clip was just fine. Nothing mind blowing, but were we really expecting it to be?
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May 2nd!http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php
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...looks like a cheap Go-bot knock off??? Is there something wrong with the comic book-sentinels face? The comic books are the perfect goddam story boards you clueless, Hollywood jack-offs! Your not improving the concept your fucking it up!
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Yet, the Ratfink defenders keep trying to make it seem like the people complaining about this clip are upset because they are lonely comic fanboys when all the complaints stem from poor filmmaking. The acting, the dialouge, the editing, the music, the effects, the tone, etc. That's what is bugging us, not what color the Sentinal is or the length of Wolvies claws or whatever bullshit you fuckers want to think we are upset about.
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Fastball scene: 2 million bucks. Danger Room sequence: 3 million bucks. Ass-raping the dreams of countless X-men fans: Priceless.
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try to talk with the grown-ups, ok?
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...that sucked. It felt limp as hell. I doubt that they edited out a buch of stuff to keep it secret for the film. That was just lame. Probably the worse thing about it is that we now know theyve blown they're load with the sentinels and all we get are some lights and a supremely cheesy "look everybody its a sentinel" shot of teh head. Clips like that are supposed to make us want to see this movie, but there really wasn't anything there that was anymore interesting than what was in the first xmen film. The first and second films raised the roof so high. By the third they should be bringing the fucking house down. This summer is looking so dead.
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Frigging ads
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In fact, I'd probably be happier if there wasn't quite so much fanservice in the movie. You know why the Danger Room/Sentinels/Angel/whatever weren't in the first 2 movies? Because they were overstuffed as it already stood. I mean, screw budget control, the first two films had oversized and therefore slightly undercharacterized ensmbles even without sticking in a completely unneeded training scene. Also...while I obviously can't judge the whole film at the moment, that clip was just not reassuring, even on its own terms. If you're going to have fanservice, at least make it fun and thrilling. This wasn't. The music was all wrong, the dialogue attempted to be "cool" but instead came off as nonsensical and out of character, and you'd really think a director with action experience could make an action scene better than this one. Maybe this is just a low point of the film. I'm certainly hoping that's true. And there's still a whole lot of very good (or at least very pretty) actors in this thing, so not all is lost. But man, what an unpromising promo after the beautifully done trailers.
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Best part was Anna Paquin's ass as they waited for Logan to come from behind the head. Otherwise....
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Joss Whedon does a better job applying a time honored X-Men convention than your multi-million dollar adaptation.
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when you compare it to the WORST aspects of other films of the same genre. Suck it, Ratfinks.
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..this clip is edited to make it more 'action-packed' to attract the 'action' crowd.Personally its fairly obvious that the threat of the cure becomes secondary to the threat of the Phoenix therefore concluding in a more intimate angle of Logan wasting(possibly)Jean.It'll probably end with Wolvie walking into the distance with his backpack on his back,Rambo syle."Where will you gou?"."I dunno,I guess I'll know when I find it."Cue cigar.Tender music.All is well.For know.PS,in the ad. the guy who made the SEnts is imploring the Prez to do what is needed(i.e.make the fuckers)so the danger room ones are probably mini guys.Its strange,I seem to be standing..uh huh,geddit...up...for this.But have a look at the ad.Certainly,killing Scott and X is awful and not fulfilling Famkes promise as Dark P. as the main Baddie is just a waste.Another X-cure?Fuck off.Ill still be there.I like the actors and liked 1 and 2 but then again,if it genuinely gets fuckinh terrible reviews before hand count me going in with a face like THUNDER.
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Hada rather smashing day.
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I've been demanding some X3 coverage here for weeks. Now I get this, and I kind of wish AICN had continued their media blackout. I'm usually not much of a hater, but there's something about this clip that just sits wrong. I'm reminded of Superman 4, bat nipples, etc... the dialogue doesn't feel right, it doesn't look right... christ, I don't know anymore. Oh yeah, and please learn how to spell 'sentinel'. "Sentinal" offends my inner schoolmarm.
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X3's budget was $120 million. For Spider-man 3, Sony's will to accept a budget between $225-250 million. Needless to say, Spidey 3 will look incredible (probably win best special effects again), while X3...well...you see the results. There's a reason why the future Marvel franchises will be made by Paramount. Even the lesser known characters that are being made into Motion Pictures have equivalent if not, larger budgets than the X-men films.
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...that all the haters, Harry & Co. included, have been right all along. I hate that. The trailer is so good, but we've been fooled before, haven't we? (Phantom Menace)
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...Mandingo Claus saved your mother for last, Sugar Pie...
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So anytime you can see him chow one down, and Jackman's reaction was pretty good, too.
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thst really sucked, jackman sounded stupid was the whole "that was my last cigar" line neccesary? and applause on the awesome special effects on the setinal, two big lights, i can see where the huge budget went for this film...
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thst really sucked, jackman sounded stupid was the whole "that was my last cigar" line neccesary? and applause on the awesome special effects on the setinal, two big lights, i can see where the huge budget went for this film...
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just search fastball.
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Am i the one coming to a talkback sounding like a 12 year old, bitching about an unfinished product? think about what
your both saying before you add your two pennies to a conversation especially when you guys didn't bring up any new points besides another way of saying "this movie really sucks and im not going to go!" thinking in your little minds that in some small heart of the talkbacks we actually care
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How could the Sentinels be in the Danger Room when they haven't even been introduced to the X-Men movie universe yet.
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to Storm as a prezzie. Aw. Ful. But I'm still seeing it.
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Fucking Jebuz.
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Your uneducated claims that a director has no control over music, dialogue, or whatever else is RIDICULOUS. You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Case in point: Lucas scrapped a bunch of original music Williams created for one of the prequels and instead recycled music from the movie before it. There was no need to refute your claims in my previous post because they were such huge piles of ignorant bullshit that anyone could see that. And your laughable attempt at being clever at the end of your "post" was, like your point, a complete failure. Next time, try to same something that contains some semblance to truth, fact, or accuracy.
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Thanks.
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It'll end with Jean just about(and ultimately) killing Prof X only to have Logan fulfill her wish of killing her after killing Scott.Therefore a tragic love triangle.Shit.But definite.Trust me.Any offers.I bet you my fucking name after 9 years of AICN being a madman.
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Dammit, it looks like some shitty wire-tricks like Charlie's Angels. Why couldn't they make it look like he flew, like supes or something, that looked lamed as could be... sigh.
I like that it was a sentinel and all, but I wanted that classic shot of him, armes stretched in front of him, coming like a human sword at the foe. Not like someone who is trying to stay balanced on the wires...
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According to the IMDB, the budget was $150 million. I know it's not going into the movies themselves. Or maybe they just hire a bunch of overpaid SFX hacks. Micheal Bay's movies cost about that much and look better than this shit. Even War of the Worlds cost $135 with Tom Cruise, and you got your huge robot action. So when the money isn't an issue then it's studio's fault for hiring hacks. PS. I remember back in the day when audiences used to say, "Yeah the movie looks great and the action is good, but what about the story?" Nowadays, it seems we have to worry about the former too. And when it comes to action, quit rewinding your Matrix/Crouching Tiger DVDs for reference and look at some Speilberg, Cameron, Verhoven, McTiernan, George Miller, etc...
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Go back 25 years to the Byrne/Claremont era especially Days of Future Past.God,I give up.PeaRLS TO SWINE.wHERAS NOW ITS FIMAKERS SWINE TO PEARLS.
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I hope you weenies truly don't find one thing that you like about this movie when you pay your money to see it. 'Cuz you _will_ see it. I just hope you walk out miserable.
Me, I plan to have a blast.
I don't recall anyone in the clip calling that a "fastball special". You bring that baggage yourselves. I doubt even in Marvel-land that those two got it perfectly right the first time. Took some tweaking, surely.
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Apr 29, 2006 3:43:56 PM CDT
Holy Shit?So many people who dont know what a fastball
by the true priapic
And the filmmakers DO!!!
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AND AICN DOESNT REPORT IT
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I am trying to like this movie, I had such high hopes. But for a fan homage scene like that, filled with what could have been great effect shots, or nice emotion and a wow factor, indeed it did not. It's just sad to see the effects going the way of Superman: A Quest for Peace. There is no excuse to have a wire-work scene that obvious in the comic realm. Maybe for those sexy angels, or the romance of crouching tiger. But not here, not in X-Men land, where you are allowed to go overboard. Sure I will have a good time seeing the film. I am geeky about Wolvie and the X's. But I am just sad after seeing a scene I previously read about in Entertainment weekely, where they included stuff us fans of the comics would be pleased. Only to see that I am not pleased, in fact I am just pain disappointed. I hope that is the only scene, like that Darth Vader/Frankenstein scene, that I wince at.. though with the Rat's track record... (_ _).oO
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look back at x-men 1 and 2. not much action in those films. but what was there looked amazing. x-men = street fighter. too many mutants, none of them look good.
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in the credits to Ice Age 2. A penis aardvark. AND AICN DOESN'T REPORT IT!
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This movie smells.
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That it's a teaser, a clip from the film itself and not a mini montage of clips. Also, it's supposed to PROMOTE the film, like all advertising of said film. Also accepting that designs and choice use of sentinal may differ from finnished product. It was still shit. For all the reasons above. Bad script, dire use of effects (Wolverine resembled Robins many physics buggering flights in B&R)a cheap feel atributable to many third installments, so on and so forth, make this a bad TEASER and an awful promoton for the film. Whether it's an X movie or not. That smelt like tuna bake after it's been eaten and scraped off the pan.
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.all of the genuine bitching here are from fucking freaks that dont know anything and are just hating.Personally,I think Harry will soon run a review that will be the most popular review for a great deal of time because hes wimped out for ages of covering this and then it'll suddenly be 'yeah,its okay' sorta stance.I think this fim will be mediovre but Im gonna see it.Id rather see this than filth like Hostel.Oh,great interview with ED from Spaced.Every answer sounded like he detested you.
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to those of you about to go 'It's a comic movie about mutants who can fart lasers out their dicks, and complain about the physics...'
It still has to work on some level. People can wrap their heads around some one with claws and a dodgy do, but when he flys through the air like a turd on wires it looks very wrong and the suspesion of disbelief needed for a movie like this is right up there going 'WAAAAAAAA' with Hugh Jackman. -
...Have a serious history of being completely different from the final scene in the movie. Just go online and watch clips of any already-released movies, you can clearly see how certain lines or bits are chopped out for time purposes. So before you guys crap your pants over the "horrible" clip, keep that in mind, Jeeze, you fanboys are more brutal than anything on this fucking planet. Take a pill guys, and worry about something more important thant Wolvie's flying or the Sentinels head or the score or anything. Jesus Christ, it's like you have nothing better to do. Go out and worry about some real problems once in a while...
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Im hearing total hatred for a film based on fuck all.I give up on this site,it should be ashamed of itself.Quint,Eds interview shoed pure contempt for this site.Enjoy Kings.I await someone with something geninely interesting to say apart from pricks.I doubt this flick will be very good from the evidence but by god why the hatred.Moronic ineptitude.
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Shut the fuck up, you fucking drunk.
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Apr 29, 2006 4:45:30 PM CDT
You sound like you're trying to break up with Harry...
by crazyeyezkillah
over the phone via voicemail.
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drunk.
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Brett Ratner: I spoke to Brian [Singer], and he said, "Let me give you one good bit of advice." I said "okay," and he said, "Don't read Aint it Cool News. I'm like, "Why?" He's like, "They're just gonna talk s*** about you, and they did the exact same thing about me. They did the exact same thing when I did the first X-Men." So I kind of stayed away from it and just focused on making the film.
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Fuck, I can't believe one of the talkbackers on here expects a $120 million movie to have crap effects!!! I mean, what???? What is happening to the world? The film world has slowly but surely disintegrated over the last few years....
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I finally saw the X-Men "Fastball Special" Clip, and I hope that it has a greater impact in the theaters than it does in QuickTime, because I am unimpressed.
It's visually good looking in a James Cameron-Terminator kinda way, though the introduction of the Sentinel really doesn't make all that much sense because it appears that Brett Ratner is doing everything he can to get away from actually showing the Sentinel (which indicates a lack of money, if anything else).
And if you're beheading something, wouldn't it be logical that the head falls somewhere in the same area as the rest of the body?
If so, where is it?
And where did Wolverine come from after beheading it, by the way. Was he holding on to the back of the severed head as it fell, which makes no sense at all as far as I can see because what would be the point: To have some jagged pieces of metal underneath you to land on?
And someone mentioned already, the look of the Sentinel's head falls really short. Film-makers are too often messing with things that don't need to be messed with (such as casting Keanu Reeves as John Constantine, or David Goyer directing Blade: Trinity). Why they couldn't just go with the Sentinels as they look in the comics, which may have saved them some money in that they already have the designs locked in, and unlike spandex uniforms, it probably would have really worked well. -
...but I'd like to add my voice to the cry of displeasure. That clip was awful. What little hope I have for a decent film is fading fast...
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the clip does answer one important question about the relationship between Wolverine and Colossus. Colossus is the pitcher.
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with this teaser was the line of dialogue that was something like "we're supposed to be a team!" For god's sake, I hope they don't make wolvie's character arc to be him learning to be a team player, that was cliched even when it was done in batman & robin. but still, it is impossible to say ANYTHING on the quality of the movie just based on these 30 seconds. that's not to say I'm not sceptical. I'm crossing my fingers. the trailer was great though.
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...that I'm glad that the Sentinels are (fingers crossed) confined to a Danger Room sequence. Giant robots are neither cool nor practical, no matter how many anime shows feature them. The basic premise of the X-Men requires me to suspend my disbelief that laser-beam eyes are a natural step in human evolution, but I refuse to get behind GIANT ROBOTS. I've posted this before: using overwhelming military force is far cheaper, simpler, and more efficient that even one giant bloody robot.
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...had piss-poor action sequences as well - remember the Statue of Liberty - but the movie on a whole was fairly decent. I'm holding onto a little hope still that this movie will have some redeeming qualities.
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the only way a giant robot would work within the thematic world (semi-realistic, leaning on drama and character development as well as action) they've created- is as some kind of training sequence. This would also explain Wolverine's flippant attitude, wisecracks, etc. otherwise, the whole the scene feels like part of a different kind of movie, not one that fits within the X1, X2 continuity. I know I'm nitpicking, but that's the sense I get.
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I don't care if this is a Danger Room sequence or not the staging and editing and effects of this looked just BAD. Batman and Robin bad. THIS is the clip they let Hugh Jackman use on a major promotional vehicle such as the Tonight Show? Either the promo department at Fox is functionally retarded OR the film is still a work in process (scary notion at this date) OR this is his "best scene" they have to show that showcases him OR all of the above. Geez. And I though the fact that we have not seen a full Superman trailer yet was reason to worry about that film. Jeez.
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but I doubt they could implant them into this ongoing story without them taking up too much thematic space, if you know what I mean.
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ADMIT IT! IT SUCKS! Crouching wolverine wire fighting the iron giant dude in what is probably a danger room fight. Anyways, we all know we'll be there opening weekend, and that's why we're so pissed about it. It's not like we can just not care about an x-men movie or anything. I mean the first two were pretty good so seeing the third is mandatory for us fans. Ah well, see you there, and hopefully it won't suck
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Get out of your parents basement you hairy palmed, whiny, fan-boy fuckwits. Remove your head from Singer's ass and recognise that you just got what you have been bitvhing for since the first X-Men film. The Danger room, Sentinels and a Fastball Special. Jesus wept, what does Ratner have to do? Come round to your dingy ass basement and rub your balls 'cause you can't find a real woman to do it?
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With all due respect, ANYONE who says something like "yeah, it looks like ass but we'll all be there opening weekend" is WRONG. I won't, and I am THE target demographic for these films (mid-thirties, upper-middle class with disposable income, familiar with the characters and the comics). I may even skip Superman, unless the full trailer impresses me. With HUNDREDS of options at anyone's fingertips EVERY MOMENT (itunes, bittorrent, TV, DVD, videogames, nightclubs, you name it), theatres and movie studios HAVE TO IMPRESS ME and with this one (even though the trailer was somewhat surprising), they haven't. I hope all the studio interns who troll message boards such as this have noticed the feedback and alert the powers that be of the trouble ahead (though in the end it will probably not matter - they'll make up any weak box office in the back end video sales and rentals and in the international ticket sales). After having my hopes dashed - brutally - with King Kong, I don't have the energy to "hope for the best" anymore. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
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...I really hope there's at least a degree of sarcasm in your post. Robots themselves are very cool, but making them bigger doesn't make them better; it makes them absurd. You might as well have Paul Bunyan and his great blue ox fighting the X-Men.
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All people on this board who don't like this are loser fanboys who can't get laid? Heh. I have three young sons my loins have sired and a wife who will be making love to me later on this evening - gladly. I find this footage disappointing and because of that (and other troubling signs) I have decided to spend my disposable income elsewhere. It does not mean I (or others who are frustrated and ticked at what they see) am comic book guy from the Simpsons. I just was passing some time by posting my opinion on a message board. Geez.
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Copy that. I don't understand the insane notion that 'we're all going to be there opening weekend'. I'm not, based on what sounds like a highly questionable script, and the fact that nothing I've seen gets me excited for the film. If it comes out, and those of us doubters seem to be wrong, then I'll GLADLY eat crow and be thrilled to go check it out. But I absolutely won't be there opening weekend as it stands right now, and there's too much else going on during the summer months to safely say I'll be there at all, even if it is better than what we're seeing to date would indicate.
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Look, we are all creative brainstorming here, and wishing those bastards in charge would let a lot of us have some input on their shitty escapades. This looks like it will smell like the swamp thing airing out his anus by a oscilating fan...
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I mean it looks faithfull to the source material. But if you want to keep telling yourself it's going to suck then that's up to you but your still going to go the cinema anyway and see it.
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I like the general concept of the scene- but it just looks akward and off. I hope it was cut to hell for TV, and I hope that the effects are not final. Especially Collosus. Yeesh.
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So let me get this straight...your basing the fact that your in a pissing war with me over the fact that some hack director (yes george lucas) tossed out and recycled a few scores? To compare the two directors, who are on different film spectrums (one KNOWS he's not a blockbuster film maker, while the other just doesn't get that he hasn't been rellevant since indiana jones) is really pointless. truth, fact, or accuracy? do you also want truth, justice, and the american way?...i mean c'mon you clearly try to fight back using one directors misstep in order to justify your thinking on ratner. I'm not a huge ratner fan i just think he's made some decent popcorn flicks and if you think x-men 1 and 2 were high art your sadly mistaken...not that those were bad movies but nowhere near what they truly could of been. So please refrain from comparing one hack director to a decent "action" director in an attempt (and i stress attempt) to be clever
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that you are on to something, Magunga. Imagine, Magneto going batshit on Paul Bunyan with his own axe, how awesome would that be? Downside is I couldn't decide between seeing this or Funky Justice League. Decisions, decisions.
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If this were 15 years ago.
This is supposively Fox's "most expensive" movie they've made, and they can't afford to render ONE robot? Those were terrible gimmicks of showing off a "Sentinel" (And what's with bright headlight eyes becoming cheap red LED's on that stupid head?), and the music was totally flakey. The Golden Gate bridge scene looks stellar so far, did they spend all their time and money on that? -
Screw y'all. Yeah, that clip was a bit disappointing, but it's X-Men, and I'm there. Because, you know, I like to actually see an entire movie before I say "this sucks!" I want to see the scene in context with the rest of the film. Can't wait. And now back to your regularly scheduled hate.
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Wow, the movie made me say "Wow." And not "Wow I can't freakin wait to see this?" But "wow, it looked like a tv movie."
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Brett Ratner is the Master of anticlimactic scenes! Not suprised here. Anyone here see Virtuosity??? The trailer looked great...but the movie sucked balls. X-Men 3 will be no different.
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The sentinel threat is completely ruined by making the machines simple inventions of the danger room. Sentinels KILL MUTANTS. Sentinels are a the most terrifying agents of the human prejudice. WHAT A WASTE......(PS-when wolvie steps out from behind the head, it looks horrible. Did he ride the head as it fell? Lame). At Least Colossus was a man-in-suit like that horrible photo that was released a while back.
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Cheese everywhere! Bad edits, and even worse music. I knew Superman would be the Superhero movie of the summer, I just knew it. Brett Ratnet strikes again! UGH!
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People on this board keep their word and do not go see this movie. I want to see this with people who exactly want to like the X-Men (whether that is 2 or 200). That's what this entire movie series has been about for me... Enjoying seeing the X-Men brought to life on the big screen. Face facts: All the stories have pretty much sucked. All the SFX in X1 were "movie of the week" level and, besides a couple of great sequences (i.e. Nightcrawler/White House), X2's weren't a lot better. Also, Wire-fu stench was all over the first two. If anything maybe Bret Ratner went a little too overboard of trying to keep with the look and tone of the first movies based on this clip. But who cares it's a movie!! We get to see the characters we read in the comic come to life. Though (and I know this is might drive some of you to suicide) they are not exactly like you pictured them in your mind. The more I read this board the more I feel sad for most of you people. You seem so bitter and anal (maybe your bitter because all you get is anal)over something that, in light of things, really isn't that important. Do I wish this clip looked better? (Sure) Do I think they could have done it better? (Maybe haven't seen the whole thing yet). Am I going to go start crying and screaming at the computer screen "You have ruined my life! I hate RATner and Fox so much for making this movie at all because now I will never get to see the movie I play in my head on the big screen!" (Ummm... No) In the end take or leave it for what it is... a comic book movie and a way some people might want to kill a couple of hours and take their mind off work. You might find if you look at it like that the clip doesn't look that bad. Or just go on screaming at your monitor. Whatever gets you through your day.
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i have not viewed 1 clip or a trailer yet.
iam walking into the theater/movie
blind.
Remember when ya' saw GREAT action
flics without the SET-UP PREVIEWS?
shit like:
Die Hard, Lethel Weapon, Aliens,
Raiders, Predator?
anyways, hoping for the best.
Enjoy (not really) reading ALL the
hate rants.
Lets just HOPE that the movie can ROCK US some way.
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Apr 29, 2006 9:41:25 PM CDT
This scene tells that sentinels will never be done rite
by george newman
["rite" to make it fit.] Sentinels will only be a joke in the danger room. Never a real life threat to the X-men
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you realize the X-Men aren't real right?
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in Ice Age 2?
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I won't pay to see this, but I'm sure I'll watch it eventually via the newsgroups. It will suck compared to what it could and should be, but it will probably be entertaining the way FF was (I didn't pay to see that one either). From the previews, there look to be some cool CGI scenes, so at least we will have those if absolutely nothign else.
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WOW, that looks terrible. Jokey. No real tension. This is going to be a clusterfuck.
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I have it on good authority that at the end of X3 that Ashton Kutcher shows up to reveal that it was in fact Bryan Singer who directed X3 just to show how full of shit you faggoty-delicious sperm-burpers really are. You know and I know that you undercover tea-baggers will be there on the opening weekend if only to breakup the monotony of jacking-off to your collection of anime porn. Rob Zombie was right when he stated that the biggest enemy to genre films (Sci-Fi, Horror & Action) are you pathetic whiny internet fan-boys who are like little indecisive bitches who are never satisfied...And to prove my point/rant, Invalid Entry earlier post:"But the pacing and such was off. It was boring." Excuse me, but this was a 35 or 40 second clip! So in closing, all you silly haters out there, grow the fuck-up, better yet, you're all cordially invited to return to your senses and I mean this in a christian way.
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will be a useless montage of loose scenes and dialog that gradually get tighter and tighter as the film progresses, leading to a passable cataclysimic battle and the formation of the brotherhood. the loose scenes in the beginning will be loose because they are going to try to develop characters for the 20-odd new mutants and their relationships to one another/the plot. i wish someone had grown some balls and handed in a script involving the brotherhood forming halfway through the film to save the ungrateful normal humans from apocalypse, leaving no question of the mutually beneficial relationship between humans and mutants. instead the ending of this film will involve the resolution of the whole wolverine/cyclops/jean grey thing paralleled against the reconciliation of a common for prof x and magneto. gay!
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Are you arguing FOR the throw-away use of the sentinels?
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Dont you guys understand the concept of teaser clip? Maybe when he throws Wolverine we will see Wolverine fighting the Sentinel but Ratner and co didn't want to spoil it! The score might not also be finished. I'm not saying I like Ratner but didn't we all jump the gun on the Rent style posters! Dont judge this clip as gospel. Until you see the official movie we wont know how Wolverine vs Sentinel plays out.
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for all the people who are giving thi s shitty movie the benefit of the doubt haven't you learned that when the majority of the fans cry out in anger and say something on this board, they are usually always right.
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...that's left me lukewarm. It's probably the low video/audio quality though so you won't feel the same impact as if it were in the cinema. Also it's a bit of a strange clip to show because it's completely out of context so the characters reactions and physical movements all seem silly. They should've gone with something a bit more accessible, though I'm sure showing the Sentinels was a good way of interesting fans...I was hoping for proper Sentinel action, marching through streets hunting stinky muties heh! Hell Yeah!
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Fox should take note or should have taken note of this. Spidey will have more then enough time to make the fx look good and save millions by not having a rushed production. I don't know what marvel was thinking. Do they have any power? Avi tries his best at spin control. Despite his "The FF is going to be great" spin control line. I just got a batman & Robuin feeling about x3.
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Stop blaming ratner people, no the badness of this film will always fall on Simon Kinberg in my eyes. How he got the writting duties of X3 with crap like XXX3 under his belt is beyond me. Xmen are not the f4. Logan cracking wise cracks and one liners? I hope it's just in the DR sequence.
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I just saw a tv commercial (Australia tv) advertising a Superman Returns competition. They played (as far as I know) so far unreleased footage including superman flying down a city street, and a bit of the plane sequence that has been mentioned previously. Also some flying through a building. ANYWAY the footage looks really uninspired....like a tv movie or something. Are they going to release a proper trailer for this film before it opens??
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That commercial i mentioned is also online at http://www.brandonrouth.com/images/video/SR_Coke.avi Apparently the proper trailer will be out with Mission Impossible 3 this week. Sorry if everyone already knew all this ages ago!
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I don't understand why some of you complain about the music, I think it sounds rather John Williams-esque and quite fitting. I don't mind them adding a little cheekiness to it, and what I saw in this clip was certainly not as bad as the totally unmotivated, apparently "cute", cat joke from X2. Don't worry though, I'm sure you'll get your fair share of melodrama towards the end of the film. P.S. I've seen worse things being glorified on these talkbacks on more than one occasion, but that's just my opinion. I hope you try to form your own.
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Virtuosity was directed by Brett Leonard BNITT. Don't think he's done much since.
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Was Nightcrawler's White House chase at the start of X2. X2 never recovered from that action high, yet was still a good film. Hopefully the danger sequence is deliberately sorta lame, so they can build the action throughout the story untill it all-out mega-mental shit nuts exciting. Hopefully.
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do you actually know anyting about the X-Men at all? they can basically program any enemy to train against in the danger room...just because you see the sentinel there doesn't mean that you won't see it in a real fight at some point...hell, for them to have it in the Danger Room they had to have fought them at some point...
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you lazy bums
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To the horribly miscast Halle Berry, who puts asses in seats, but continues to drag down the XMen films...and to the other actors as well. That is probably why they ending the series, because it's cheaper to just pay Jackman for a Wolverine film than pay an ensemble cast.
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what the fuck? Singer really is just remaking the first two supes movies isnt he? God dammit, what a waste.
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http://www.brandonrouth.com/images/video/SR_Coke.avi
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Sentinels/Danger Room... Dark Phoenix... Colossus... Kitty Pryde... Juggernaut... Magneto... etc. This has all the ingredients to be the best of the three movies. At the very least, it already looks MUCH better than the Fantastic Four (and even that crapfest made money at the box office).
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Get that fuckers opinion in here!
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Apr 30, 2006 10:58:29 AM CDT
Meta4, you are by far one of the stupidest TB'ers...
by iamjack'suserid
I have ever had the displeasure of coming across. Get it through your obviously small and lacking mind; DIRECTORS HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE ABOUT ANYTHING ON A MOVIE. THAT IS MY POINT. I'm surprised you're actually able to remember to breath. And I never said the XM movies were high art. I guess I can add 'memory' to your large list of mental flaws. And if you prefer Ratner over Lucas, that speaks volumes for your "tastes" and FURTHER demonstrates you know nothing about film nor directors. Maybe you'd be more at home on a YuGiOh board where you might actually stand a chance of keeping up. Maybe.
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It's not like he could have done any better. Is he talented? Sure. But, I'm tired of Kevin Smith being the be all, end all voice of the fanboys. Better question: Where's Chris Claremont, or John Byrne? Get those fuckers opinions in here. Oh, btw, if Marvel ever goes the direct to video animated X-men flick route. I hope that they model it after Paul Smith's (No relation to Kev.) awesome artwork. I doubt they would though.
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Him FLying looks Amazing. It looks like its supposed to. Unlike Wolverine flying through the air like drew barrymore doing wire work in charlies angels.
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Supes Flying looks no better than the old Superman Movies and as bad as the Neo stuff from Matrix.
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and your mom wished she'd got a spooned abortion...that was my 12 year old comeback of the day but no seriously peeka (isnt that the sound of a pokemon?) come back with something alittle more witty when you grow up now go play before dinner....back to jacksuserid for a minute...you know i like you your remarks are soooOoOO talented it makes me smile but fact is your comparing one hack director to another hack director, sorry to give you the bad news but George "Flannel Boy" Lucas hasn't been hollywoods golden boy since his original star wars triliogy so please remove your tongue from his ass, even steven spielberg wont allow him to take part in much of the script revision and directorial duties. So i'm "by far one of the stupdiest (your word not mine) talkbackers you've ever come across" huh?...I'm sorry if i don't share your sentiments toward this movie or anything else brett ratner has to do director-wise. I liked rush hour 1 and 2 and look forward to 3 simply because they were popcorn flicks and i would take that over the dissapointing new star wars triliogy any day. I'm sorry your on your period i really am but to come to the talkback's and vent about really trivial things "this scene's sfx,music,and dialogue are all off so the movie must be garbage!" this was a single scene and does NOT represent the entire movie. I'm standing up for this movie not because ratner's on board but because each x-men movie has surprised me in a great way, i thought x-men was gonna be stupid because it looked wrong (only wolverine LOOKED like wolverine) but then watched it and had fun, the sequel, after reading the script sounded stupid as hell, who the fuck is stryker? where are my motherfuckin sentinels?, blah blah, but seeing it opening day i loved the movie and still think its the best superhero film ever made, and regardless of the director i think this film will surprise me once more by how good it is, because if bryan singer can trust ratner then atleast a few of you "non-believers" should too, seeing as bryan singer is your "gay-film-making-god"
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came from? As far as I know Singer had no input once he decided to move onto Superman...Cameron also gave the "thumbs up" to Mostow for T3 and we all know how that turned out-seems more like pc talk that an actual endorsement.
I never thought singer was the right choice for the x-men franchise, even though I thought the Usual Suspects was brilliant...but the movies turned out to be good, not great, Good. I don't have a lot of faith in Ratner and the clip didn't give me any reason to believe....However, it was only a clip, so I still hold out hope that the source material-not Ratner's directing-will prevail and x3 turns out to be decent. -
Thanks for the link, even if you're not a fan of the vid of yourself. I'm not much of a Superman fan, but I thought this footage was really good. We haven't really seen flying in film since the Matrix sequels (which I thought generally did a good job, like the slo-mo bit where Neo saves Trinity with all the cars behind him, but overused CG in some places like when he soars above the clouds then flies back down).
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Bad or good, you're gonna bash it. It's how this talkback works, isn't it?
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That was some seriously bad dialogue. This isn't Rush Hour Ratner, it looks like he turned it into a big sci-fi "buddy cop" movie.
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how much Halle Berry sucks as Storm!
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He should be playing Storm. Can you imagine the back and forth between Storm and Wolverine then...
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somehow i knew all the haters over here'd be hatin' it on the boards. i don't think this movie hinges on whether or not they show a full sentinel in it or not. sure there's just a head in the clip, but that's a whole head as compared to the complete lack of sentinel in X1 and X2. but no one complained cuz the x-men aren't about sentinels. maybe they'll make a spin-off movie based completely on sentinels so all you haters will hate on it too.
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storm still sucks. she sucked in the first two movies too. we watched them. we loved them. can't we stomach another load from halle if it means getting to see our beloved x-men at it again? i don't really want to. but i'd like to think we can.
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Considering what they can do with special effects these days. It's a wasted oppurtunity. It's like what the scene would have looked like if it was done in the 80s.
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that scene had no energy whatsoever. of course you'll say it's not in context but so what? you can tell that visually its glum and uninteresting, and the actors look quite bored. this movie will meet with fanboy backlash the likes of which hasn't been seen since the prequels.
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with eggs and I'm gonna throw them at people buying tickets for X3.
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There I said it, give the the guy a break. If this movie was Citizen Kane when it came out someone would still find reason to complain lol. I've never actively disliked any of his films and I like Prison Break and Red Dragon. The clip looked kind of cool to me lol (obviously it was truncated) and the last trailer was great. None of the cast have anything bad to say about him and he's a self confessed x-men fan, nothing I have seen is giving me train-crash feelings so far. This month will be very interesting as every week there is a mega big budget release.
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This has to be the DANGER ROOM. Wolverine is way too calm. "Their not ready yet" come on, shitty looky sentinel head, no kick ass gianormous Sentinel attack with full view of said Sentinel: COP OUT!
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This has to be the DANGER ROOM. Wolverine is way too calm. "Their not ready yet" come on, shitty looking sentinel head, no kick ass gianormous Sentinel attack with full view of said Sentinel: COP OUT!
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...if they showed you everything in a trailer or a clip, you'd come away from the movie saying: "That sucked! They showed all the money shots on Leno!" ..... That Spielberg is a thousand times the director Ratner is wouldn't matter in this cynical day and age. If E.T. had come out today, and with the same type of marketing strategy it had back in 1982, haters would be saying "Fuck, they only showed the alien's fingers on Leno! Spielberg jumped the shark! He's afraid to show us his rubber-assed space-Bruce! Because it sucks! Hoooo boy what did he spend his money on?" ....... I really think it's a safe bet that they'll show a full-on sentinel at some point in the flick. CGI isn't really that expensive anymore, folks. Ratner's version MAY suck, but it won't suck for whatever reasons you choose to attribute to that hacked-up clip. I'll listen to any complaints about director, script, actors, etc. But to bitch about only seeing lights in the sky instead of a whole robot on Leno? Fuck off...
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how dare you compare the 2. I know Steven Spielbereg and Brett Ratner is no Steven Spielberg. If this movie fails to deliver it will not be Ratners fault but that of Tom Rothman of FOX. He never wanted the X-Men to succeed. CGI maynot be expensive but it takes time to fully render and complete a competant SFX scene.
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FOX should have delayed the release of this film and given it the time it needed once Matthew Vaughn left.
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...I didn't compare Spielberg and Ratner. In fact, I went to pains NOT to compare them. What I DID compare was what I firmly believe would be the identical responses of whiners to both situations. Don't put words in my mouth, chief.
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pisses me off when people judge an entire movie on a minute long clip from a watered down source. how the HELL can anyone even comment on the quality of effects from a captured Leno clip, compressed to a few mb? you think multimillion dollar effects look just as good on a 5mb vid compared to digitally projected version or dvd? WAIT UNTIL THE FULL MOVIE TO JUDGE. AND course they're gonna show a sentinal. to someone who hasnt read the comics, that clip shows Wolvie slashing some kind of plane and a head falling off.... without showing sentinals before that makes no sense.
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True enough but the magic Spielberg did with Bruce the rubber shark was due to the solid, rock solid story and direction. This movie might suck because it will suffer from that horrible fate of all bad sequels: it gets trys to be too big for it's britches. I mean it is amazing that Singer managed to make a great movie out of X2 with all the X-Men in it. Hey, I don't want to see a bad X-Men movie but nothing I have seen so far looks too prove me wrong.
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That this movie might actually turn out good is the fact that harry hasn't had anything negative/positive to say since the last trailer debuted, possibly even before then. so cmon harry...wheres your comments now monkey boy?
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Still crossing my fingers and hoping it kicks ass.
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on one click". First of all Quint posts an article containing a clip. And then underneath this article is a talkback. All they have to talk back about is the clip from the article. The clip was shit. They say so. End.
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Sometimes when you're forced to formulate an opinion with little matter to go on, you pick a side first and then justify that side. Considering what little we've been given in regards X3 so far has been very poor quality, they pick the "hater" side. And by the way, the term hater is so very very fucking irritating.
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??? I can't even explain that away as a Freudian Slip or Typo. What the hell's a click?
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They already had the perfect effect template on Collosus' transformation from X2, but they had to screw with it, now it looks like subpar T-1000 effects. Nice going Fox.
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It's just because there's so much fire and smoke that he's so reflective.
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Have zero problems with that, make sure you're watching the higher res first link, it's improved over X2.
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as burnished steel, not polished chrome. You can have something made of metal that looks like metal without it having to be as refelctive as a mirror. He looks transparent.
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It looked stupid, it sounded stupid, its pacing was stupid, it's FX were banal and uninspired. Suckage reigns in the World of Franchises.
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Dude, we pretty much determined it was the Danger Room when the first teaser hit back in December. You're late to the party, bub.
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I agree with you wungolioth the effect really looked T-1000ish but atleast it isnt as ummm "bulky and high" as early promo shots......and also you know im done arguin with all the "haters" on this talk back i guess im not as fickle as most people if a movie sucks it sucks but i refuse to say it sucks before having seen the finished product....so i'll hold out hope until may 26th, or whenever it comes out....hell who knows maybe i'll hate it like everyone else claims too
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Wow. That scene had everything I've been waiting and wanting to see in an X-Men movie since I was 9 years old...and it sucked SO bad! Oh, fuck! It's true, this movie is REALLY going to suck bad...SHIT! Oh well, I guess I'll just have to pretend it was never made at all. Just like I do with another Fox "fucked-up" 3rd franchise film: Alien3. (in my geek universe, Ripley and Newt lived happily ever after, end of story!)
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if that was a 'danger' room sequence then why was it that I felt no danger at all. Jackman gave his lines like he was phoning them in, the music was dull.. I could go on. In a week that has had MI:3 open, a cracking Bond trailer (all be it in French) and some Supes action from an ad, this has to been seen a low point for movie fans. This film is going to blown out of the water by the other big hitters this summer and we all know it and I for one is very saddened by that. RIP X-men.
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"This is gonna suck more dick than a hooker at the point at christmas time. Fuck Fox, they've managed to dick their own ass yet again with this bullshit." Now I know where the poet in warriorpoet comes from.
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than that made for Fox TV Generation X movie, or that Mutant X TV series, or any of the X-men cartoon shows, including that one with Iceman and Firestar. Plus, Kelsey Grammer as the Angel of Death... I mean, Beast. And a real teenaged brunette to lay Kitty instead of Shannon from Lost. It seems to me they're getting it right compared to what it could have been. When's Mystery Men II coming out?
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i know what a fastball special is, but what's a Magau Pload?
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with geek fan boys they give u one movie before they turn on u before another even comes out. no wonder ur geeks
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Yet they won't pay for a full scale sentinel battle scene? We need to boycott this shit. Seriously.
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Seriously, didn't this look like the T-1000 from Terminator 2? So here we are 14 years later and they're still using morphing effects from the 90's. That was a disappointing fastball special. If anyone hasn't noticed, the kid from "Ultraviolet" is in this film, playing the same "carrier" of a disease. Thanks for the originality Hollywood.
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almost as bad as give a shot out or hooollleeerr. anyways you guys suck and thats what you are. did none of you guys see the trailer. it kicked ass. this was probably cut up to show more of Jackmans dialogue and what have you. and another thing the danger room is for practicing for missions and bill duke said in the trailer, something like "then you know what has to be done" maybe that is to deploy the sentinels. so take the tampones out of your asses and the sand out of your vaginas and wait to see the movie before you bash it this much. everyone in here jumps on and off band wagons so damn quick.
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that giving more lines to Halle has improved her delivery...or something.... *wretches in the bushes*
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Don't get your panties in a bunch! Some of us have standards....Hater!
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ya, must of put the wrong panties on today. should of went with the red ones. anyways, im quite far from hating this one. after i see it i might have a different oppinion though. but until then im all for it. ever heard of optimizm and finished products. everyone thought x1 was going to suck before it came out because of the costumes. maybe try to not have standards and expectations then youll never be dissapointed.
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I must be on AICN! Now I know what people looking forward to Episode 3 felt like!
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> Really? And gives us shit like Captain America from the 90's? You fucking half chads. Fuck the lot of you basement dwelling donkey dick licking toads. There has yet to be a movie posted here that any of you fuckbags like. I swear I would love to see Hollywood close down, then you fucking DNA swilling cellar pigs would have to find something else to shit on, or heaven forbid go out into the sunlight and get jobs. But that can't work either because then you'd have to unhook your colostomy bags and shit and wipe for yourself. But because your fat asses would be so atrophied, you could get one of those Hoverrounds
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Damn, you've been holding that in for a while haven't you? Anywho, I pretty much agree with what you said, but don't kill anybody over it ok? I also agree the X3 clip was kind of lame. Lame to the fact that it was edited poorly I'm guessing to hide the "money shots" of the sentinel. At least that's what I'm hoping is the case..... I'll still be there opening day praying this flick kicks ass.
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Objectively speaking, was the clip really that bad?
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And you're right about Lucas just as you're right about everything else. The prequel trilogy only brought in about a billion in box office. I'm sure Hollywood hates him! You know how they despise the green stuff! As far as the rest of your childish rant, I paid it little mind since it lacked not only originality or accuracy, but even creativity or more importantly, humor. "Gay-film-making-god"? Good god was that bad! Doesn't even make sense! I take it you were flamed off the YuGiOh boards by the pre-teens and so you came running back here with some of their insults to use against me. To cast further light on your tastes, that's the problem with Ratner-tit sucking morons like yourself. You've already lowered your own bar and calibrated your standards to accept this as nothing more than popcorn entertainment. Then in one classy move, turn around to bash Lucas while defending Rush Hour movies. Pathetic. You owned yourself.
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I guarantee if Matthew Vaughn had stayed on, people would still be bitching about how this scene looks. Give it up. All the blame shouldn't go to Ratner. It should go to Zak Penn, Simon Kinberg and Fox. These are the same people who made Fantastic Four, Elektra and XXX 2: State of the Union. I don't care if the director is God. If there is no script or backing from the studio, the movie is shit. Personally, I didn't mind the clip. Thought it was nice to see ANY version of the Danger Room/ Sentinels.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scR2NMmdW4k
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i'm just too dang excited about this movie right now. it could suck big time and i'd probably go see it eight times. i mean it's the freakin x-men on the big screen. and from the looks of things everyone gets to use their powers ALOT not just in certain scenes. but i've seen several clips of interesting kitty pryde stuff and she's a back ground character, i've seen ice man iced up like we've been wanting, i've seen clips of angel soaring, and i've seen the freakin' fast ball special. i'm excited. we haven't seen much of anything from storm or profX from the prieviews, or beast either. no to mention phoenix cutting loose. and we've seen pyro and these other background characters using their powers left and right in these tv spots and trailers. so what do all the A-list characters get to do this time around? i'm thinking it's going to blow us away. and by "us" i mean the x-men fans. all of us who love the x-men. not singer. not claremont. not ratner. the x-men. so all you haters need to stop raining on my parade. if you want a perfect movie, watch...something else. i'd rather see a great x-men movie. and this seems to be shaping up to be the film i've been waiting for the past 15 years. the only negative stuff i'm reading is right here. quit hatin'.
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yes i will be there opening day but wow does this look like it's gonna be a hot steaming bowl of suck.
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I thought that's what they were for. That's why studios spend money on trailers, to get you in. This one is half-baked, poorly edited and a shitty advert for a franchise that's supposed to know what it's doing by now.
I don't get the buzz that the X-2 trailers gave me. And I worry about the Wolverine spin-off if this trailer is an example of where they're going. I don't want the franchise to go out with a whimper, but I don't have much confidence in it right now.
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