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I am – Hercules!!

1) You’d think that because tonight’s “South Park” episode, “A Million Little Fibers,” deals with Oprah and Oprah’s couch, it would have something to do with Tom Cruise. And maybe it secretly does. But apparently it’s supposed to be about the author who scammed everybody’s favorite daytime talk queen.

2) The guy who gives voice to Towelie is one of the two Wonder Showzen masterminds. Vernon Chatman.

3) After tonight? Only two more episodes till October.

4) Longtime AICN spy “Dr. Hfuhruhurr” contributes this:

Dear Hercules,

I have never contributed to your half of the site, but thought I finally should. After Wednesday's part two of the South Park "Cartoon Wars" in which Comedy Central refused to air a cartoon of Mohammed, I sent them an e-mail basically calling them cowards and hypocrrits (as you know, in the same episode in which they refused to show Mohammed, they had no problem showing Jesus taking a crap on President Bush and the American flag. So much for the daring and edgy comedy channel. Anyway, here was their official response, in case you and your readers are interested:

Dear Viewer,

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the "South Park" episodes entitled "Cartoon Wars." We appreciate your concerns about censorship and the destructive influence of outside groups on the media, entertainment industry and particularly Comedy Central.

To reiterate, as satirists, we believe that it is our First Amendment right to poke fun at any and all people, groups, organizations and religions and we will continue to defend that right. Our goal is to make people laugh and perhaps, if we're lucky, even make them think in the process.

Comedy Central's belief in the First Amendment has not wavered, despite our decision not to air an image of Muhammad. Our decision was made not to mute the voices of Trey and Matt or because we value one religion over any other. This decision was based solely on concern for public safety in light of recent world events.

With the power of freedom of speech and expression also comes the obligation to use that power in a responsible way. Much as we wish it weren't the case, times have changed and, as witnessed by the intense and deadly reaction to the publication of the Danish cartoons, decisions cannot be made in a vacuum without considering what impact they may have on innocent individuals around the globe.

It was with this in mind we decided not to air the image of Muhammad, a decision similar to that made by virtually every single media outlet across the country earlier this year when they each determined that it was not prudent or in the interest of safety to reproduce the controversial Danish cartoons. Injuries occurred and lives were lost in the riots set off by the original publication of these cartoons. The American media made a decision then, as we did now, not to put the safety and well being of the public at risk, here or abroad.

As a viewer of "South Park," you know that over the course of ten seasons and almost 150 episodes the series has addressed all types of sensitive, hot-button issues, religious and political, and has done so with Comedy Central's full support in every instance, including this one. "Cartoon Wars" contained a very important message, one that Trey and Matt felt strongly about, as did we at the network, which is why we gave them carte blanche in every facet but one: we would not broadcast a portrayal of Muhammad.

In that regard, did we censor the show? Yes, we did. But if you hold Comedy Central's 15-year track record up against any other network out there, you'll find that we afford our talent the most creative freedom and provide a nurturing atmosphere that challenges them to be bold and daring and places them in a position to constantly break barriers and push the envelope. The result has been some of the most provocative television ever produced.

We would like nothing more than to be able to look back at this in a few years and think that perhaps we overreacted. Unfortunately, to have made a different decision and to look back and see that we completely underestimated the damage that resulted was a risk we were not willing to take.

Our pledge to you, our loyal viewers, is that Comedy Central will continue to produce and provide the best comedy available and we will continue to push it right to the edge, using and defending the First Amendment in the most responsible way we know how.

Sincerely,
Comedy Central Viewer Services

Cowabunga, motherfucker!

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  • April 19, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST

    More Crab People or Galgemacs...

    by DanielKurland

    I suppose its easier to parody real life than write original stories when you are doing episodes in a week. Not complaining though. Kind of ridiculous that the "season" just started and there are only 3 episodes of it left.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:47 a.m. CST

    NICE

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • April 19, 2006, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Overseas

    by photoboy

    So when Cartoon Wars is sold for overseas broadcast will they put Muhammed back in or just leave some generic message about censorship? Will we get an uncensored DVD release? What about releasing an uncensored version of the episode on the internet?

  • April 19, 2006, 9:49 a.m. CST

    They're right

    by MKiro

    Sadly, safety has to be prioritised.. even over freedom of speech. It's easy to to preach and have a pop at Comedy Central being censorius, but if anyone had been hurt, or even killed, as a result then they would have been held accountable and I'm sure it is not something anyone would want on their conscience. It's sad that we even have to consider censorship such as this these days, but it is a sign of the times we live in. Well, you can rant and rave all you want about how CC 'gagged' Matt and Trey, but common sense dictates they had to do the right thing - it was Matt and Trey who fucked up. I don't believe for a minute this is a censorship issue - it is a SAFETY one.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:01 a.m. CST

    "...called them 'hypocrrits'..."

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Yes, I'm sure everyone there was shattered by a letter of strong critique coming from an individual who tries to uses vocabulary that he cannot even spell. Perhaps the e-mail should have opened with "OMG LIEK U SUXXORZ UR SO LAIM & FAMLY GUY RULZ!!111!!#111!"? By the way, that reply was probably sent automatically by a bot that scans the incoming mail for "Mohammed" + (any curse)...

  • April 19, 2006, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Or, MKiro

    by Banky the Hack

    We could hold the person who goes into a crowd of people and blows himself up accountable. This is the United States of America, and we're not under Sharia law yet. Anyway, I'm sort of glad it happened the way it did, it really brought home the message of the episode.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST

    The terrorists are winning?

    by Steve_Dooku

    It's all ok, or none of it is. I seriously doubt there'd be any crazy killing in the streets of Montgomery, Alamaba, or Ohlmstead Falls, Ohio, or ANY American city if the image of Mohammed was shown. IT'S A FREAKIN' CARTOON!!! What if I say this -> :-D is Mohammed. Will there be riots in the streets because of it?

  • April 19, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST

    MKiro are you retarded or a plant from comedy central?

    by Towelie

    Fuck them for wimping out (again). Safety-schmafety, that's the excuse they always give when crushing free speech. And it turns out that the scientology epsiode isn't to be repeated or shown in the UK - fuck Matt and Trey up their scaredy-cat little girl-pussies.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Worst. Episode. Ever.

    by TheJake

    So are we gonna get the "totally outrageous and uncensored version" on DVD? "Now with 3 extra seconds of wacky footage!" Honestly, who gives a shit about it... oh wait, millions of sand loving Muslims around the world care, but do they watch South Park? Wouldn't Mohammed curse them and take away their virgins if they watched it? Screw you Comedy Central - you Allahdamned chicken shits.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST

    "Closet" will be shown in the UK, on Channel 4

    by ElPaw

    ... eventually, when they get to series 9. Meanwhile, it won't be shown on the Paramount Comedy Channel as Paramount is the studio behind MI3, and they want TC promoting it.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Here's the problem that the Daily Show causes

    by chrth

    Comedy Central is a business, not a news outlet, and not the government. This effects two things: 1) The First Amendment doesn't apply. Ever. The First only applies to the Government. 2) Since it's not a media outlet, it is in no way obligated to reveal all the facts or portray truth or any other such media thing. IT'S AN ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK. It's a business. Why should they risk losing sponsors and viewers by doing something they are under no obligation to do? If you can find a good reason for Comedy Central to show Muhammed for any other purpose than just to show him, than you might have an argument. But just because Matt and Trey want to put Muhammed in a cartoon doesn't force them to do anything. Again, they're a business, not Radio Free America. They can do whatever the fuck they want.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Hey Towelie

    by Banky the Hack

    How is it Matt and Trey who are responsible here? They would show the Scientology episode to anyone who'll watch it...it's the network that won't rebroadcast it.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST

    But if buddy blows himself up how can he

    by jim

    be held accountable? At least by us? It's hard for a society to hold a puddle accountable for anything. It's not a matter of CC saying "that offends us" but rather "based on what we have recently seen, there's a good chance some nutcase will be offended by this and take it out on anything or anyone affiliated with Comedy Central". Remember way back when The Satanic Verses came out and Rushdie had a contract put out on him? Today, the publishing company, the stores carrying the book, any business that is a subsidiary of any of those would be the target of these lunatics. You don't pull a lion's tail after you have just seen that same lion maul someone who had pulled his tail.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Comedy Central

    by MKiro

    Just giving my opinion is all. It's easy to sit at your keyboard and bash CC (and me), but unfortunately it's just a very sad state of the world today. We all saw the way the mid-east (world, not USA!) reacted to that Danish cartoon and I have little doubt that the South Park depiction would have been even more offensive (and funnier!). Do you seriously believe that there wouldn't have been ramifications if the show had been broadcast uncut? These guys are just looking for another excuse to create a second 9-11. Wanna give 'em one? We are all free-thinking, free-speaking people. However, some believe that we should not have that freedom and will take dramatic measures to stifle that freedom. I HATE that CC had to censor the episode. I'm just saying that I understand why they did. Oh, and I'm not a plant (so I must be retarded).

  • April 19, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST

    So where was CC's concern during "Super Best Friends?"

    by SpyGuy

    If I recall correctly, Mohammed was featured in that episode and -- Surprise! -- nothing happened. Where was Comedy Central's concern for "safety" then? Oh, wait...there wasn't one because SOUTH PARK doesn't exactly have a huge Muslim demographic, do they? If no one blew up the Comedy Central offices over "Super Best Friends," no WAY would they care about Mohammed standing in a doorway for three seconds. Cowabunga, motherfucker!

  • April 19, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Oh... I get it...

    by halcyonseven

    So as a Christian, if I don't want to see ANY images of Christ then all I need to do is blow shit up? Then everyone will bow to my silly demands? Sweet. You guys are all fucked now. People like Mkiro are the reason why we are totally screwed in this country.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Bush defecating on Jesus Christ....

    by TheSmokingMirror

    ... would be offensive and South Park wouldn't show that, I wager

  • April 19, 2006, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Amen, halcyonseven

    by Kung Fu Hustler

    Appeasing the fanatic Muslims by refusing to air an image of their prophet can only embolden them. "If that works, perhaps we should protest, riot, and kill over something else we don't like!"

  • April 19, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    MKiro

    by Heathicus

    "if anyone had been hurt, or even killed, as a result then [Comedy Central] would have been held accountable..." And THAT is part of the problem. 100% of the accountability belongs on those doing the hurting and killing. "These guys are just looking for another excuse to create a second 9-11. Wanna give 'em one?" Actually, I think that would be a great idea. Maybe that's what it would take to actually take care of the real problem. It would be a huge sacrifice, but if it results in finally ridding Earth of these punks for good, then it would be worth it.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    An armed Cartmen wins..

    by Billyeveryteen

    What don't you fucktards understand?

  • April 19, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Context

    by MKiro

    Ok, I'll bite. But I ask one question - if Mohammed hadn't been censored, would the episode have been that much funnier? In fact, did the inclusion of Mohammed make it in any way risible? If the answer is no, then you have to question the motives as to why Matt & Trey wanted to show it at all. To prove a point? Ot maybe just for shock value, knowing what a hornet's nest they would be stirring up and the resultant publicity that would ensure from the backlash? Heck, I'm cynical but offensive doesn't necessarily = funny. I think Matt & Trey have lost sight of what made South Park so brilliant in the early days. Now it's not so much water-cooler discussion about how funny South Park was last night, it's more like 'Did you SEE what those guys did last night??'

  • April 19, 2006, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Q:(>

    by punto

    Ha, I knew it wasn't part of the joke.. If anyone is injured after showing mohamed, it's not the fault of Matt and Trey or Commedy Central, it's the the retards who go out and blow things up; and it's not the responsibility of Comedy Central to go out and stop them, that's the Police's job (or whoever is in charge of stoping the retards). The media has a job, which is to spread information, and the police and the government have a job, which is to protect the people who operate inside the law. If you live in a civilized country and you know that the government is on your side, then why not exercise your right, and leave the public safety to the people whose job is to defend it?

  • April 19, 2006, 10:59 a.m. CST

    The point...

    by Heathicus

    "In fact, did the inclusion of Mohammed make it in any way risible? If the answer is no, then you have to question the motives as to why Matt & Trey wanted to show it at all. To prove a point?" You obviously missed the entire message of the episode. The episode was about how the freedom of speech HAS to be either defended or surrendered. Sometimes it is costly to defend it, but it's always worth it. Showing Mohammed (it wasn't even in a derogatory manner) was their way of fighting back against both those who would squash freedom of speech and those who would rather surrender freedom of speech.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Why not show Muhammad?

    by Kentucky Colonel

    I mean, come on already! He's the Greatest Of All Time! He Floats Like A Butterfly and Stings Like A Bee! ESPN2 seemingly shows one of his fights once a week! And he's from my hometown! All this nonsense over Muhammad. Yeah, he used to beat the shit out of all comers (except maybe Ken Norton) but nowadays he wouldn't hurt a fly. Anyone who would kill in the name of Muhammad is a sick twisted prick, a leftover vestige of the Middle Ages. Any group of individuals who would kill because "Allah is ths greatest" should be summarily wiped off the face of the planet. Ali rules...Jihad sucks! Derka-Derka muthafuckahs!!!

  • April 19, 2006, 11:18 a.m. CST

    <sigh>

    by TempusFugitive

    "In fact, did the inclusion of Mohammed make it in any way risible? If the answer is no, then you have to question the motives as to why Matt & Trey wanted to show it at all. To prove a point?" Ok, clearly you have missed the point entirely. We have no idea what we would have seen if CC hadn&#39;t refused to show Mohammed. The entire premise of the two episode arc was based on that refusal. For all we know, they could have been proposing a follow-up Super Best Friends episode. CC put the nix of Mohammed as part of some story premise, so Matt and Trey responded with a story refecting that action. And neither CC nor M&T could/should be held responsible for any violent act that arises out of a perceived slight. That responsibility falls squarely on the head of the one performing the violent act, and anyone supporting him. And anyone thinking that terrorists are waiting for a South Park episode to offend them before planning/executing violent acts is living in a dreamworld. All this being said, ii IS CCs right to put limits on what it airs. And I actully respect them for airing what ended up being a scathing indictment of the network itself by M&T, that took some balls anyway.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Stoopid fingers....

    by TempusFugitive

    ii IS = It IS. Dammit.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Kentucky Colonel Rocks the cock!!!

    by strongbadmonkey

    Funniest thing I&#39;ve read on this post so far! Sweet Cuppin&#39; Cakes.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Mohammed on Mr. Show

    by J Dog Jenkins

    I don&#39;t know if anyone remembers but there was an episode of Mr. Show years back that had Mohammed on there flying around on a carpet as they celebrated "Crazy Religious Beliefs". It&#39;d be amusing to see what Bob and David would have tried with that today.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I win!

    by MKiro

    Heh. All I wanted was an intelligent debate - and we got one. I defer to your reasonable arguments: Tempus, Heathicus (wha.... is everyone a Roman???). I honestly didn&#39;t have a strong view - I was just trying to defend CCs rationale for doing what they did. My main gripe was the fact that they even had to consider censorship which, as I stated originally, is the really sad issue in all of this. The world has become shit..... all in the name of God.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:40 a.m. CST

    YOU IDIOTS!!! THAT WASN&#39;T JESUS IN LAST WEEKS EP!!!

    by Shermdawg

    Everyone knows the REAL Jesus was killed in action, while trying to rescue Santa, who was imprisoned in Iraq.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Here&#39;s my questions

    by MrD

    Why did they want to show an image of Mohammad? To show they could? To provoke a response? Neither seems a particularly good reason. What would have been gained by showing Mohammad? Would it have made their point any more clear? What idea of P&S failed to get across because it was pulled? That they&#39;re not going to be intimidated? I think they made that point regardless. Should CC have rolled the safety dice on their egos? Probably not. This is not the same as what we witnessed with the Danish cartoons. The American media generally refused to show them, despite being central to the story being discussed. People could not judge for themselves whether or not the paper went to far (though nothing would have justified the violent response).

  • April 19, 2006, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Thanks, Monkey-Man

    by Kentucky Colonel

    But I am totally down with pussy. I love the way it looks, I love the way it smells, I love the way it tastes...I LOVE IT!!! Derka-Derka...lick the alphabet muthafuckahs!!! She&#39;ll think you&#39;re from Europe or something...

  • April 19, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    "You&#39;re the lamest character ever, Towelie."

    by Chastain-86

    "Ha ha! I knowwwww..."

  • April 19, 2006, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Terrorist aren&#39;t winning.. they&#39;ve already won

    by Russman

    ....thus begins the fall of the American Empire

  • April 19, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Here is a picture of Mohammed....

    by tile_mcgillus

    Dont blow up my computer! www.atheists.org/ Islam/Mohammed.html

  • April 19, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Wow that quick.

    by tile_mcgillus

  • April 19, 2006, 11:57 a.m. CST

    The Muslims are right not to allow images of Mohammed

    by MrBoinfoint

    It&#39;s better than the thirteen million pictures of Christ lying around where he looks suspiciously like a longhaired white anglo saxon Ted Nugent impersonator and not the dark skinned african jew he would have been had he really existed. Wasn&#39;t there something in the bible about a commendment against worhipping false idols or something? Golden Calf, Buddy Christ, Da Vinci&#39;s Virgin of the Rocks, Super Best Friends, all the same.

  • April 19, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Kentucky Fried Pussy...

    by strongbadmonkey

    I respect your love for the pink taco. I suppose I should have said, "Kentucky Colonel&#39;s Cock Rocks the Cooch". Still funny stuff. One question, though... why was the first KFC in Utah?

  • April 19, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Comedy Central folded in the face of fear...

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    ...no matter how they try to spin it. Their choice of course, but they are still cowards. We&#39;ve gone from having five words you can&#39;t say on TV to having two religions you can&#39;t mock on it - Islam and Scientology.

  • April 19, 2006, 12:15 p.m. CST

    How do we know that a depiction of Muhammed is accurate

    by RenoNevada2000

    For all we know the dude wandered around wearing checked Vans sneakers and a Haiwian shirt and had a mohawk died green. All these other depictions aren&#39;t accurate. So why&#39;s everyone getting upset?

  • April 19, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    The whole "Comedy Central are cowards" thing

    by Meglos

    Trying to figure out how "brave" any of you Big Talkers would be if you actually worked at CC...

  • April 19, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    MrD

    by TempusFugitive

    Scroll back up past your post a little ways, and see the explanation of why you clearly didn&#39;t understand the point of the episode. Or hell, read this: Showing Mohammed in the Cartoon Wars episode was not the point... we&#39;ll likely never know in what manner they wanted to use Mohammed. The Cartoon Wars episode(s) was/were in whole a reaction to CC refusing them to allow Mohammed to be shown as part of some unknown premise. Might the original Mohammed appearance have been funny/unfunny/absurd? Who knows.

  • April 19, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST

    You morons actually think any of this is real?

    by I Dunno

    Which is the more probable situation... that Comedy Central, after already bashing every single religion, political belief and race on the planet, suddenly decides to censor themselves, to huge publicity or that this is a publicity stunt to get ratings? Occam&#39;s Razor, people.

  • April 19, 2006, 12:36 p.m. CST

    ... and Meglos

    by TempusFugitive

    You&#39;ve got a point... in the travesty of a litigious society we&#39;re living in, I might very well have erred on the side of caution. I wouldn&#39;t want to be sued into the stone age because some whack-job got his panties in a bunch and decided to blow a bunch of people up. It&#39;s their right to make the decision not to air it. The crime is that they felt like they had to make that decision.

  • April 19, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Freedom of speech also applies to Comedy Central

    by jim

    It&#39;s their network. They can air whatever they want. If they don&#39;t like something, they shouldn&#39;t be forced to air it. One person&#39;s idea of censorship is another&#39;s method of expression. And I tend to agree with IDunno. Coincidence that the rerun of the Scientology episode was pulled, earning CC & South Park a lot of free publicity, a week or two before the season premiere?

  • April 19, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Funny, I sent them the same email

    by decypher44

    And received the same form letter response. It&#39;s what I expected. I just wanted them to know how many people think it was bull.

  • April 19, 2006, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Matt & Trey must read these talkbacks.

    by Childe Roland

    A few weeks ago I was all down on them for forgetting how to be funny because they were so busy trying to make a point. Then they used that line in part 2 of Cartoon Wars (although a funnier version witht he "up their own ass" analogy). Then, in the last South Park talkback, I suggested (even demanded) they bring back Towelie. Now here he is. In the words of Abe Simpson: "I want a check!" and "I want another one!" As for the whole "Comedy Central acted responsibly/these people are just looking for an excuse to make another 9-11" argument, I&#39;ve got to ask what the fudge you&#39;re thinkingn if you believe that? Sure, Comeduy Central acted responsibly in terms of covering its own ass. But is that responsible to the idea being put forth in the episode or to the very notion of freedom? The whole point of 9-11 was that there didn&#39;t NEED to be an excuse. Americans were looking for meaning in the date and time or some chain of cause-effect events that might have precipitated such an event (even as we were staggering around punch-drunk looking for someone to hit back), but the truth was that the attacks were designed (by whoever) to seem like holy fucking terror from out of the clear blue. And it worked. They caught the entire nation with our pants around our ankles (I was literally in the crapper when the first plane hit the WTC). The very fact that we, as a nation, are now walking on fucking eggshells and second guessing everything we do from flying on an airplane to showing images of Mohammed is a pretty clear indication that 9-11 worked so well, they (whoever they might be) might never have to do anything like it again. Terror has won. Fear is in power. This is the world as we&#39;ve made it. And it&#39;s not fun or funny. Hopefully towelie will be both so I can spend a few minutes, at least, not obsessing over what a shit situation we&#39;re all in.

  • April 19, 2006, 1:29 p.m. CST

    There never WAS a picture of Muhommad

    by Squashua

    Duh. ARe they going to re-show the Super Jesus-n-Pals episode ever?

  • April 19, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Here&#39;s how YOU can support free speech:

    by Flim Springfield

    Go walk down a street in Harlem or some other poor, mainly black area, holding up a sign that says "GET A JOB, N****RS!" But of course, don&#39;t censor that last word, because you believe in free speech. Then report back with the results. Get on it, or I will call you a coward...

  • April 19, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Calling Comedy Central cowards is retarded

    by Freakemovie

    You know what? I agree with the "vanilla corporate response" completely. They had the right to not show Mohammad and they used that right for the sole reason to prevent violence. End of story. Matt and Trey made a blisteringly good point in their argument for showing him, but it&#39;s true that we don&#39;t live in a vacuum and you really do have to consider the fact that you may conceivably be putting peoples&#39; lives in danger. If anything, I actually think Comedy Central helped Matt and Trey out: they proved that in the day and age we live in, you can&#39;t show Mohammad knocking at your door but you can show Jesus taking a shit on the American flag. Nobody wishes that that was the case, but there&#39;s not an easy answer to this one.

  • April 19, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Q:(>

    by Flipao

    Oh yeah, they&#39;re coming for me! btw, yes, their first ammendment rights were violated the minute they chose FEAR as their reason.

  • April 19, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s still brilliant

    by the maven

    I stand by what I said last week that South Park served up the best piece of satire ever aired on American TV. I appreciate Comedy Central

  • April 19, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Comedy Central&#39;s Form Letter

    by fiester

    Anyone who wrote them on that subject got that exact same form letter emailed back to them.

  • April 19, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Image of one hand clapping

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Boy, that will mess with your mind. Comedy Central does have it&#39;s advertisers (ie: paychecks) to consider. Heaven help us if the jihadists start blowing up McDonalds and Costcos if they&#39;d blasphemed the most sacred and angry prophet Muhammad. Crazy fuckers have NO sense of humor. I guess I wouldn&#39;t either if I lived in a desert, dressed in rags, never got laid and had to ride a camel everywhere. Imagine if YOU had to fuck your date on the back of a camel...you&#39;d be pissed at the world, too. I give Comedy Central a "Mulligan". And as to why the first KFC was in Utah...my best guess is that Harland Sander, who was around 65 at the time, already had a couple of Kentucky Fried Chicken stands in Kentucky, and sold the first franchise rights to some dude in Utah. Hmmm......I prefer that chicken from Popeyes personally. The Red Beans & Rice kicks ass!

  • April 19, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Go back and re-read the last talkback, maven...

    by Childe Roland

    ...and you&#39;ll see the point you&#39;re remaking here wasn&#39;t missed there at all. In fact, most people appreciated the fact that the episode was structured to work with or without censorship. I specifically argued that it worked better with the censorship and that it was entirely possible that Matt & Trey designed it that way with reasonable certainty that it would be censored. Unfortunately, lately, the response of American media to fear is quite predictable. No one&#39;s suggesting Matt and Trey aren&#39;t very clever monkeys. And I don&#39;t think anyone "missed" anything in regard to the point of the episode. It was hardly subtle.

  • April 19, 2006, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Has Comedy Central ever allowed...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    anyone to say, "fuck"? Has CC ever allowed nudity? The answers are both: No. However, HBO has and does. Thus HBO wins, with Showtime coming in second. The channel on basic cable that wins the award is also not CC. It&#39;s FX. Taste that sweet butter, CC!

  • April 19, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Freedom of Speech vs Choosing to remain silent

    by Heathicus

    -"All this being said, ii IS CCs right to put limits on what it airs. And I actully respect them for airing what ended up being a scathing indictment of the network itself by M&T, that took some balls anyway." - I completely agree. I&#39;m not bashing CC for not showing Mohammed. They certainly have the right to decide what they air on their network. They should neither be told they "HAVE to" nor "CAN&#39;T" show Mohammed. The question was asked "Why did M&T want to show Mohammed anyway? What was the point in that?" My previous posts were answers to that question. I understand CC&#39;s decision but I am saddened by it. And I do give the credit for airing the episode to begin with. And Flim Springfield, you&#39;re retarded.

  • April 19, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST

    *sigh* I so hate Towelie

    by Orange Crush

    The character, not the talkbacker. I suspect they keep trotting him out just to test our loyalty.

  • April 19, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST

    South Park already showing Mohammed!! Every week!

    by rockgolf

    He appears to the right of Kenny in the opening sequence. See http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=10199 for the screen shot. Guess they get the last laugh after all.

  • April 19, 2006, 3:36 p.m. CST

    "no, it&#39;s not like terrorism"

    by Kraken

    "it IS terrorism"

  • April 19, 2006, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Mohamed was in the episode of Cartoon Wars Part II

    by imkindofabigdeal

    You just had to look really hard. As it has already been said Mohamed was already one of the "Super Best Friends" which aired on July 4th 2001 during season 5 and made Seamen jokes (Seamen was SP&#39;s version of Aquaman). Well they use that Mohamed in the end of the opening credits this season when everyone is standing around the South Park sign.

  • April 19, 2006, 3:45 p.m. CST

    rockgolf

    by imkindofabigdeal

    nice...couldn&#39;t find that image online.

  • April 19, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Balls

    by RockYourSocks

    When did we lose &#39;em? Seriously... America has been castrated. I long for a time when we would respond to this islamic bullying by publishing cartoon after cartoon filled with pictures of Mohammed as a gigantic middle finger to these barbarian pieces of shit. Now we&#39;re so worried about the rights of the people who want nothing more than to kill us, every man woman and child... of course not saying all muslims think this way, but these extremist animals need to be wiped off the face of the earth. I would have aired the image and said "Fuck you Al-Qadea, come and get us."

  • April 19, 2006, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Would anyone really be that suprised...

    by twitchinmonkey

    if it all turned out that this was a big, well co-ordinated publicity stunt (ala Andy Kaufmann & Jerry Lawler)

  • April 19, 2006, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, Christianity is far more tolerant....

    by ElPaw

    That&#39;s why Galileo was almost executed for daring to suggest the Earth orbited the Sun.

  • April 19, 2006, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Pope Ratz? Anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-reform? Tolerant

    by ElPaw

    my arse

  • April 19, 2006, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Let me tell you a little bit about Mohammed.

    by BuffyFanboy

    Islam was born in the harsh deserts of the Middle East, and its prophet, Mohammed, got angry that Jews wouldn&#39;t accept him as the final prophet and thus abandon their own teachings. From there the followers of Islam have proliferated by the slash of the sword, and to this day, they know nothing else but might, intimidation, and bloodshed. The peaceful ones are remote from their cultural and regional origins, but at the very base of this religion is the order to convert and shed blood towards this accomplishment, whatever the cost. This is the holy imperative. There is no accomodation between civilizaton and the militant Koran. They have no shame at slaying babies or beheading adults, because they make no distinction between the grown infidel and the evil-in-the-making. While this seems the height of cowardice in our own culture, they don&#39;t take a share in this mind construct. Maybe YOU should read a balanced report on Islam, and not just listen to whatever your girfriend chooses to tell you. The reason they wanted to show Mohammed in South Park was because they wanted to see if it was still true. If we still had that freedom of speech. They haven&#39;t got a vendetta against islam. They&#39;ve got a vendetta against the people who are restricting our freedoms. Islam means "Submission" not "Peace" as most uneducated or brainwashed people will try to tell you. What&#39;s the difference? you might ask... The name &#39;Islam&#39;, or &#39;Submission&#39; was coined when Mohammed and his band of Bloodthirsty followers would go to a city and lay seige to it, with the ultimatum "Submit to our religion or die" or, words to that effect... The ones that submitted were known as "muslims". The word muslim, muslem, or however you wish to spell it translates as "He who submits". Those who didn&#39;t submit were tortured, killed, raped and mutilated, as well as some other heinus ats. As you can see, Islam was misguided and violent from the start. What makes people think that they are any different today? No amout of covering up, and polishing over the truth by modern day muslims can hide this truth. Here endeth the lesson. PS: If you think I&#39;m lying or you don&#39;t belive me, you&#39;re probably one of those brainwashed people I was talking about. Go get a history book and read about the birth of Islam. And no, the Quoran doesn&#39;t count as a history book.

  • April 19, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    And depictions of Mohammed aren&#39;t an (Islamic) religiou

    by ElPaw

    And depictions of Mohammed aren&#39;t an (Islamic) religious policy?

  • April 19, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    FREE SPEECH GIVES US THE RIGHT TO OFFEND.

    by BuffyFanboy

    Think about that. Free Speech gives us the right to offend. No, that doesn&#39;t mean we should go around trying to offend everyone we can, it means that should we choose to, we can. And that freedom is a magnificent thing. I could happily go through my life without exercising that freedom, but if I hear that when some rare person chooses to exercise that free speech and is held back, you bet I&#39;m gonna be angry. People have died for free speech. Do you even know what Salmon Rushdie went through (and is still going through) after he released The Satanic Verses which portrayed Mohammed in a negative light. All these years on, the only thing that Salmon Rushdie regrets is not writing the book, but APOLOGISING FOR THE BOOK TO THE TERRORISTS WHO THREATENED VIOLENCE AGAINST HIM. THAT&#39;S what he regrets. Joss Whedon once said "A man who wouldn&#39;t give his life for any cause, is not fit to live.", and Freedom of Speech is something I would give my life for.

  • April 19, 2006, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Either it&#39;s all okay, or none of it is.

    by BuffyFanboy

    If you just step back from all this and think about it, you&#39;ll see how ridiculous it all seems: We are being told that we can&#39;t draw a cartoon of some holy man, because if we do then some crazy brainwashed militants will start rioting and murdering to show their anger. All because in some foreign countries law, they don&#39;t allow that particular cartoon, and they think that we should be governed by that (largely inexplicable) law too. Are we gonna stand for that? Lets get our heads out of the sand and see what&#39;s going on here: we&#39;re being terrorised out of a free media. We&#39;re playing by the madmen&#39;s laws. Now they&#39;re telling us &#39;no mohammed cartoons&#39; and we say &#39;okay okay&#39;. Next they might have a problem with women getting pregnant before they&#39;re married. "If any more american women have babies out of wedlock, we will start riots and kill people". And we&#39;ll agree to that. Then they&#39;ll make us pray 5 times a day, put animals through painful and unecessary torture before we can eat them, subject all women to shariah law and vindicate the use of violence to protect the islamic faith and we&#39;ll be like &#39;oh, for allahs sake, when is someone gonna put a stop to this&#39;. As Kyle said in the episode, either it&#39;s all okay, or none of it&#39;s okay. We can&#39;t let the threat of violence change the way we do things. Here&#39;s a quote for you: &#39;Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear.&#39; Ambrose Redmoon, second unit director of Firefly and the major-motion picture Serenity.

  • April 19, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Gotta say, Brodester...

    by Childe Roland

    ...you really haven&#39;t made a very convincing case for the overarching tolerance of Christianity in general as compared to the Islamic faith in general. Sure, there are radically intolerant Muslim sects that get their messages across with violence...but there are sects of Christianity like that as well. You&#39;re tossing around blanket statements asserting one religion is somehow superior to the other and, quite frankly, you are the one coming off sounding like he doesn&#39;t know what he&#39;s talking about.

  • April 19, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    i thought it was funnier censored...

    by Holodigm

    see it uncensored here http://tinyurl.com/mednq

  • April 19, 2006, 6:06 p.m. CST

    How come I&#39;m the only person that remembers ...

    by chrth

    That the Catholics had the Mary statusbleeding episode pulled? WTF is this, saying only Scientologists/Islams? Sweet merciful crap. (Yeah, I&#39;m Catholic)

  • April 19, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    "Statusbleeding"?!?

    by chrth

    Er, I meant statue bleeding. Carry on.

  • April 19, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Oh, and can we please get over the Galileo bullshit

    by chrth

    He was put under house arrest in a swanky villa. He never came close to a jail. Get educated.

  • April 19, 2006, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Brodester, you have to recognize levels of adherence

    by chrth

    Use Judaism as an example: there are still Jews that don&#39;t dance with women (to avoid risk of touching a menstruating women), and at the same time there are Jews that eat Lobster and ham. I&#39;m sure it&#39;s the same with Muslims. The one problem is that Islam (see note at end) has provisions for violence contained within the religion that fundamentalists will use. Now, Judaism and Christianity has the same possibility (Judaism: Eye for an Eye, Christianity: Crusages), however, years of secular cultural assimilation has downplayed, almost eliminated this possibilities (notable examples include the KKK, a Christian organization). Islam, however, has not had that benefit in many places until recently. That&#39;s why the best way of solving the problem is democratization and secularization. Unfortunately, that just increases the fundamentalist reaction. It&#39;s a sticky wicket to be sure.

  • April 19, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Crusages?

    by chrth

    Surely I meant Crusades. Crusages are sausages shaped in the form of a cross.

  • April 19, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s all the fault of the neocons of course

    by Towelie

    The Iraq war, apart from being about oil, was designed to stir up religious tensions and foment terrorism, which it has. This suits the leaders of either side, who are each fundamentalists opposed to their followers freedom of thought. Before America illegal pre-emptive war, before it began torturing hundreds of iraqi prisoners and locking up thousands more indefinitely, most muslims would not have been rioted over the Danish cartoons, like they didn&#39;t bother with SPs previous depiction of Mohammed. The simple fact is that if you voted for Bush or supported the invasion of Iraq you are partly to blame for all this. But mostly I blame Matt and Trey, the spineless cocksuckers. I hope they get killed by terrorists.

  • April 19, 2006, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Bunch of loser Dhimmis

    by cerebulon

    Like Stan said.... we are a country that believes in free speech, but not if we have to risk anything. Whenever they make fun of Jesus it pisses me off more than I can even say. But I don&#39;t kill any one over it. But they won&#39;t even show Mohammad doing anything more than standing there. They are cowards and not American. The American media has become a bunch of pussywhipped dhimmis to bow down to the demands of psychotic muslim scum. We should do as Butter&#39;s Dad suggested, we should all draw our own cartoons of Mohammad.

  • April 19, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST

    BuffyFanboy: Put up a KKK poster in a mainly black area

    by Flim Springfield

    Do it in the middle of the day, so everyone can see you defending your right to offend.

  • April 19, 2006, 7:21 p.m. CST

    see, I thought the CC censoring Muhammad was part of it

    by eppdude

    I thought it was just part of the satire of the cartoon. And I think this "response letter" might be part of the fun, too.

  • April 19, 2006, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Hmmm...interesting perspective Towelie

    by chrth

    Is that why they flew the planes into the WTC and Pentagon? Because of the war in Iraq?

  • April 19, 2006, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Danish cartoons

    by kuryakin

    The reason most media outlets (here in the UK at least) did not show the cartoons was not for fear of offending Muslims by SHOWING an image of Mohammed but rather because the cartoons were clearly and deliberately racist. The image of an Arab with a hook nose and mad staring eyes could have come out of any Nazi schoolbook with Muslim substituted for Jew. Denmark is an extremely homogenous country, having real problems with the integration of non-white, non-Christian people coming to live there. This was just one example of the white majority&#39;s racial intolerance - the fact that they later just threw their hands up and claimed free speech is missing the point. It is easy for those who hold power to claim the right to free speech as a way to say anything they like about minorities. And it is interesting that those other countries that DID reproduce the images have the same attitudes to minorities - I mean France is one racist fucking country, what a surprise they would support offensive images of non-white people. How many people would be shouting "freedom of speech" if the same Danish newspaper had carried an image of Tiger Woods on a golf course, wearing a leopard skin loincloth with a bone through his nose? People would see it for what it is - racist shit. Now yes, news outlets might show that particular image to report on how offensive it was but imagine that as well as the racial element there was an offensiveness at the image even being shown. I mean imagine the reaction if the Virgin Mary were shown in a cartoon with a big pierced clit sucking a cock - mix that with the racial offensiveness of the Tiger Woods image and then you will get an idea of how offended Muslims were by the Danish cartoons. That&#39;s why they weren&#39;t shown. It wasn&#39;t because the news networks or newspapers thought crazy Muslims might blow them up. The fact that Parker and Stone think they are standing up for free speech by just showing Mohammed misses the point entirely. Of course, unless it is all a joke, the fact that Comedy Central then refused to actually show it show that there are a lot of people missing the point. In all this furore over whether or not it is Ok to show Mohammed, it seems that the original racism of the Danish cartoonist is being glossed over in favour of the usual anti-Islamic prejudice. And Buffyfanboy - if I wasn&#39;t sure you were just a fucking troll I would respond to you. As it is let me just ask - who the fuck is Salmon Rushdie? Any relation to Tuna Turner? Moron

  • April 19, 2006, 7:46 p.m. CST

    What has 9-11 got to do with Iraq?

    by Towelie

    I suppose they did it because they hate our freedoms, right?

  • April 19, 2006, 7:48 p.m. CST

    And why isn&#39;t South Park funny anymore?

    by kuryakin

    The only bit that seemed to have any of the old spark was the end sequence with people shitting everywhere. the show needs more lavatory humour and less "topical" comment

  • April 19, 2006, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Nice fake uncensored, Holodigm

    by bah

    But come on, the CC watermark is there, and Mohammad is in SP style, not FG style. That aside, not badly done.

  • April 19, 2006, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Post Mohammed everywhere!

    by jodocus

    I say we post pictures of mohommed all over the place. On city walls, park benches, public toilets! Let&#39;s flush this fuckers out and kill all of the cocksuckers! Who is with me?

  • April 19, 2006, 8:29 p.m. CST

    correction

    by jodocus

    this = these

  • April 19, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Towelie: Don&#39;t be silly

    by chrth

    Of course 9/11 didn&#39;t happen because they hate our freedoms. It was done in the hopes of getting American influence out of the Middle East. The thought process probably was "if Americans have to suffer, they&#39;ll not be able to stand up, they&#39;ll back down and let us have our way" -- you know, what happened in Spain. That&#39;s the problem with their edited history books: it didn&#39;t cover Pearl Harbor. ... The cartoons themselves aren&#39;t actually important. They were just another tool for the Islamic leadership to rally their people against the West. They were an excuse. Islamic leadership rightly fears Western influence because it promotes secularization; some of them fear it honestly, i.e. they believe the faithful will be corrupted; others fear it selfishly, i.e. they don&#39;t want to have their lifestyle removed. It&#39;s like the US Civil War: the aristocratic elite wanted to put slaves in Kansas (and take over Cuba) because they wanted to make sure their culture survived; they feared an end to slavery and the Southern agricultural economy built on it if their were too many Free States--because it put their lifestyle at risk. It&#39;s the same thing with the radical Imams: they want Theocratic Islamic governments because such governments keep their lifestyle intact. An Israel able to peacefully coexist with Saudi Arabia and Egypt is a threat to this. As is the upcoming Youth Revolution in Iran. As are the (former) troops in Saudi Arabia. The only safe Middle East for their lifestyle is one free of democratic/secular influence. ... There&#39;s a really irony in all of this. Iraq&#39;s government was probably the only one that would have allowed a Christian (Aziz) to rise to a level of prominence. Yeah, Hussein was a mur-diddily-urderer, but he was actually intelligent enough to recognize Aziz&#39; value outside of his political skills. ... Anyway, my point to all of you is this: why give them ammunition? If the Imams are just going to use the cartoons as a way to rile up people against the West, why help them out? Democratization is (historically) an irresistible force. The immovable object of Islamo-theocratic government is shored up with such things. STOP GIVING IT TO THEM.

  • April 19, 2006, 8:56 p.m. CST

    hey kuryakin...

    by bullumhead

    do you get freedom of speech even a little? racists have the right to stand on the rooftops and spew all the racist crap they like...they can print it and sell it and do what they like with it. the beauty of it is that the victims of that racism have the right to speak just as loudly in opposition to that racism. those that choose to react with violence are in the wrong here. and great point about the virgin mary with the cocks and the clit...what if they went so far as to have george bush take a shit on jesus. man, that woud be so much more offensive then mohammed standing in a doorway. and if you aim to refute buffyfan&#39;s argument by pointing out the misspelling of salman rushdie then you are truly a tool. and why are we such fucking pussies now when it comes to "religion?" mohammed was a bad guy...and i&#39;m willing to bet that 90% of his followers (the ones that aren&#39;t out there detonating themselves) don&#39;t know how much of a bad guy he really was, just like i&#39;d bet that 90% of all christians really don&#39;t know dick about christ. the problem isn&#39;t the danish or the french or the muslims or comedy central...it&#39;s that 90% of the earth&#39;s population are just fucking stupid!

  • April 19, 2006, 8:57 p.m. CST

    I want some Crusages...

    by Alonzo Mosely

    They sound tasty...

  • April 19, 2006, 9 p.m. CST

    On the Jesus/Bush/pooping cartoon

    by chrth

    I think a lot of people missed the point of its inclusion in the episode. Remember when the anti-cartoon demos started (several months after they were actually printed, btw), and Iran offered a contest to show anti-Israel cartoons? I don&#39;t know about you, but I laughed pretty hard. They honestly think it would upset people. I live in a country where a Crucifix in put in a vat of urine and is called art; cartoons aren&#39;t going to get me riled up. AND I think that was the point of the Al Qaeda cartoon at the end: they would actually think such a cartoon would&#39;ve been offensive to Western society--which is laughable. So if you&#39;re offended by the cartoon: then the terrorists win. Seriously.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Yes, Virginia, there is a Mohammad (Link to cut clip)

    by Gorrister

    For those of you who don&#39;t believe, here is a link to the scene that Comedy Central was too chicken-shit to air: http://wwtdd.com/index.php?type=one&i=834

  • April 19, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    OH NO THEY DIDN&#39;T!

    by Shermdawg

  • April 19, 2006, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Didn&#39;t what?!?

    by chrth

    And why is Oprah&#39;s crotch talking?

  • April 19, 2006, 9:11 p.m. CST

    OMG

    by Shermdawg

    Seriously, OMG.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:11 p.m. CST

    bullumhead, you&#39;re funny

    by chrth

    Let me guess, you&#39;re part of the 10% that&#39;s smart, right?

  • April 19, 2006, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Oprah&#39;s Minge

    by keyserSOZE

    that&#39;s a screen name if i&#39;ve ever heard one...

  • April 19, 2006, 9:12 p.m. CST

    oh, Geraldo...

    by filmicdrummer17

    This is one of most absurd things I&#39;ve ever seen...seriously.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    *sigh*, I hate coming late to the party

    by chrth

  • April 19, 2006, 9:14 p.m. CST

    holy shit

    by TheTagger

    First 5 minutes, lamest south park ever. Next five minutes, goddamned funniest thing I have ever seen.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Gorrister...

    by WillowFan2001

    That clip is not real. Anne Garefino denies it, but at the same time, says there is such a clip. Click here to read (near the bottom): http://volokh.com/posts/1144984968.shtml

  • April 19, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Interesting ...

    by chrth

    They&#39;re accusing Oprah of manipulating the reaction to Million Little Pieces

  • April 19, 2006, 9:22 p.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT! IT&#39;S GOT A GUN!!!

    by Shermdawg

  • April 19, 2006, 9:23 p.m. CST

    I think there&#39;s only one bullet in the gun

    by chrth

    Those chambers look empty

  • April 19, 2006, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Now I&#39;M OFFENDED!

    by chrth

    Are they honestly suggesting that not getting high helps you think clearer?!? THOSE BASTARDS!

  • April 19, 2006, 9:29 p.m. CST

    meh

    by keyserSOZE

    forgettable episode overall. a couple funny parts...but just...blah.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Okay...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    ...there&#39;s a Monty Python sketch going on in Oprah&#39;s snatch.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    That did not make any sense.

    by George Newman

    That was so bizarre.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Probably the most brilliant episode of TV ever

    by Elmore Rigby

    Oprah&#39;s minge and asshole taking people hostage! How do they come up with this stuff?

  • April 19, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Yeah, pretty weak

    by chrth

    I mean, the plot was typical, they just made it Oprah&#39;s minge and asshole as the main characters. Funny in an absurd way, but not funny in a clever or funny way. And, of course, highly offensive.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Half assed

    by CLMoose8

    Seriosuly, I am one of the biggest praisers/defenders of South Park, but that episode was just fucking lame. There was BARELY any animation as we just started at a still of Oprah&#39;s crotch for 15 minutes, and honestly, the randomness of "Dude, let&#39;s have Oprah&#39;s cooze talk to her butt!" seems like something the Family Guy manatees could have come up with. I gaurantee you this entire episode was completed in about 24 hours and handed in at the last possible second.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Wow, that episode blows.

    by UndercoverCop

    That was boring. Satire on the author of A Million Little Pieces? Geraldo repoeting from Afghanistan being *gasp* a bad reporter? What&#39;s next, Bill Clinton

  • April 19, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    League of Gentlemen vibe, anybody?

    by Kungfumanchu

    Damn if Gary didn&#39;t make me think of that right away. Which of course, is a good thing.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m not a fag

    by chrth

    But I am a little fond of chiffon in the wrist area (only extremely cool people will get that reference)

  • April 19, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Not Funny

    by chrth

    Does anyone actually watch Mind of Mencia?!? I miss Drawn Together *sigh*

  • April 19, 2006, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Sooooo is RENO911! coming back?

    by Shermdawg

    Or are they just doing movies from here on out?

  • April 19, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m not sure why everyone&#39;s down on it being just ...

    by chrth

    towelie in this ep. I mean, Kyle and Cartman had a ton of action scenes the last couple episodes, so they probably got the episode off. Stan and Kenny, however, should&#39;ve been available. Maybe next week,

  • April 19, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Sub-par episode

    by Freakemovie

    If you wanna be topical, that&#39;s fine. But don&#39;t ignore every character and setting in the entire show except for the admitted "lamest character ever" who appeared in like 2 out of 150 episodes. Personally I watch South Park to actually see South Park. No big deal though; just make next week better.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Mencia takes lessons from Ferecito: "I&#39;M JUST KEEDING!"

    by George Newman

    "Anyone been to Mexico recently? There aren&#39;t any Mexicans left!" *buh-dump-ching* "AY, DIOS MIO!"

  • April 19, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST

    How dare they...

    by DesertSquirrel

    Yeah, how dare Matt and Trey ignore the regular characters of the past 150 episodes and try something new. They should never be allowed to change it up every now and then. Every episode should feature Cartman hatching a crazy scheme and Kyle has to stop him.

  • April 19, 2006, 9:59 p.m. CST

    what is wrong with you people? that was funny shit.

    by chickychow

    some of you people sound, how would Trey and Matt put it? Up your own asses. no one saw Oprah&#39;s Minge coming (um, pun intended?), Geraldo was funny, and the dying scene at the end with Mingey and the asshole was classic South Park. Just enjoy. Or did some of you not smoke before watching the episode?

  • April 19, 2006, 9:59 p.m. CST

    But Brodester, don&#39;t you see?!?!

    by chrth

    The ep had an anti-pot message! ><

  • April 19, 2006, 10:05 p.m. CST

    And what is with this only two more new eps until Oct?

    by chickychow

    you kidding me? these guys are famous for cranking eps out in a week. what is with the long hiatus?

  • April 19, 2006, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Ehhh...

    by BenjaminGrimm

    I get the feeling that that episode took less time to write than it did to air. It had some funny stuff in it, but it was basically just a cheap joke stretched out to 22 minutes.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Worst episode ever...

    by El Scorcho

    Yeah, pretty much.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Naw...

    by BenjaminGrimm

    Mr. Garrison&#39;s Fancy New Vagina was the worst episode ever. This was just weak sauce. I&#39;m not even sure if this was the weakest one this season (the "Smug" epsiode was pretty weak, and way to self-satisfied).

  • April 19, 2006, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Chatman once again proves...

    by Christopher3

    That Wonder Showzen is his forte. This ep was pretty terrible - as random as Family Guy and not as funny.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Hey MKiro

    by VoodooV

    those who trade in freedom for security , or as you put it, safety, deserve neither. Find out who said that, and you win a life lesson you&#39;ll never forget dumbass

  • April 19, 2006, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Chrth

    by cerebulon

    You are absolutely correct with your summation of 9-11/Iraq and the use of the Mohammad Cartoons by the Muslims to promote jihad. However, keep in mind that the sole goal of the Jihadists is to restore the Califate that was destroyed by the secular Turks. Once the Islamic nations are re-unified under the Calif (sp?) then they will begin a religious war on the unbelievers. They are doing it little by little now - calling for the death of anyone who converts from islam to another faith, killing all of those people in Darfur, slaugtering Christians in Indonesia. I can go on and on. These days Muslims are getting as bad as Nazis. I can&#39;t offer a realistic solution to this problem, as much as I would like to. Knee-jerk reactions are usually ill-conceived and wrong - hence Iraq. But as long as every Mulsim nation calls for the destruction of the West and Isreal, they must be either controlled... or as much as I hate to say it, destroyed. We cannot have a people on this planet who murder thousands in the name of their god. The best thing I can come up with is to print a bunch of Korans and change key passages to make them more passive. We would also need Pseudo-Mullah agents to teach the revised faith. It would have to be systematic and patiently enacted. At best it would be 4 generations before the evil Islam is forever erradicated.

  • April 19, 2006, 10:54 p.m. CST

    How many episodes have they done without Cartman now?

    by Hercules

    timmah!

  • April 19, 2006, 10:54 p.m. CST

    as for the episode

    by VoodooV

    lame...so lame. Anyone else getting tired of Trey and Matt doing commentary on current events? I can go elsewhere for better. They need to go back to doing comedy of the "Scott Tenorman must die" caliber

  • April 19, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Allright, upon second viewing, this is hilarious

    by George Newman

    in truth, I missed the first 15, 20 minutes the first time the show aired.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Mr. Garrison&#39;s Fancy New Vagina was hilarious!

    by Novaman5000

    Kyles dad as a dolphin? Disturbing yet fantastic.

  • April 19, 2006, 11:35 p.m. CST

    just watched it on the replay....

    by ftmigs

    that was horseshit. Towleeeeie was the only redeeming factor. The whole Oprah&#39;s vag and anus thing, retarded. Seriously, what the fuck. How little effort can you put into writing an episode. It&#39;s like they were making commentary on the fact that they likely got high and came up with the idea for that episode....

  • April 19, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    oy, dumb revelation...

    by keyserSOZE

    of COURSE they had an episode tonight centered around a pot smoking towel...tomorrow is 4/20. d&#39;oh!

  • April 20, 2006, 12:11 a.m. CST

    I can&#39;t believe yet again no one gets the point

    by MrBoinfoint

    This episode was bad on purpose. It&#39;s yet another fuck you to Comedy Central. There&#39;s no other reason why they would show a static image of Oprah&#39;s crotch for five minutes with bad English accents, in an episode which features NONE of the original cast. Matt and Trey are basically saying, "You don&#39;t want to show what we want to show, here&#39;s what we&#39;ll give you: Towelie talking to Oprah&#39;s Vagina." It&#39;s showing that they&#39;re willing to take the show directly into the dumpster, give up on all of their characters, take on a HUGE media/pop culture figure with deep pockets and lots of lawyers and do some truly offensive things to her, put Comedy central at risk for serious litagation and the show on the block for cancellation, because either everything&#39;s funny, or nothing is. Another brilliant episode. Can&#39;t wait for the Jackovasaurs Family Holiday Special.

  • April 20, 2006, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Bonifant

    by VoodooV

    I think you&#39;re looking just a little too deep at it..but whatever, even if it is another fuck you to CC...im tired of it...I want comedy. Not faggoty infighting between writers and television execs. its nice every once in a while...but time to move on...we get it already.

  • April 20, 2006, 12:29 a.m. CST

    its just like when Ellen jumped the shark

    by VoodooV

    Ellen&#39;s style of comedy isn&#39;t my cup of tea, but I think she&#39;s a great comedienne. But as soon as she came out of the closet, Her show became a fucking soapbox for her social and political views and stopped being about comedy. Trey and Matt are doing the same shit. The sad thing is, I&#39;m on Trey and Matt&#39;s side...but its not why I watch South Park OK?

  • April 20, 2006, 12:47 a.m. CST

    To VoodooV

    by MKiro

    You can quote Jefferson all you want, but those are his words, not yours. Try and come up with something intelligent to say that your own brain has composed. Pehaps then you might be qualified to call others, &#39;dumbass&#39;. <sigh> This is what happpens when children learn a quote and look for any excuse to use it. You made me laugh, though.

  • April 20, 2006, 12:49 a.m. CST

    The real point of this episode...

    by Rindain

    ...Was Trey and Matt rewarding themselves (by getting high) for the Cartoon Wars eps, and the Peabody. They came up with great ideas, then got high as a reward, resulting in this episode.

  • April 20, 2006, 12:59 a.m. CST

    It&#39;s "Boinfoint" thankyerverramuch

    by MrBoinfoint

    What in god&#39;s name is a Bonifant? Doesn&#39;t even make sense...

  • April 20, 2006, 1:06 a.m. CST

    MOTHERFUCKERS

    by Veraxus

    So Comedy Central was the huge hypocritcal pussies everyone thought they were, after all. I think we should all mail (physical mail) cartoons of Muhammed to Comedy Centrals main office in protest.

  • April 20, 2006, 1:30 a.m. CST

    wow... that wasn&#39;t funny at all

    by Russman

    Damn and only two more episode... what are Matt and Trey doing until Oct?

  • April 20, 2006, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Stephen Colbert had a great line tonight...

    by Flim Springfield

    "Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes have a baby! Can the South Park guys finish the script by tomorrow?" Ha!

  • April 20, 2006, 2:10 a.m. CST

    There aren&#39;t two left... right? Whatever

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    So far the only really good one this season was last week&#39;s. EVerything else has been meh. Here&#39;s a good 9/11 movie. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848

  • April 20, 2006, 2:23 a.m. CST

    it was Franklin dumbass!!

    by VoodooV

    lol, and if you can&#39;t see how it parallels to modern issues...you are an idiot

  • April 20, 2006, 3:44 a.m. CST

    what a dumb episode

    by Rupee88

    This season has royally sucked for the most part. The last two eps were kinda funny, but this one was painfully unfunny and contrived and only had one friggin&#39; joke...stretched out for 22 minutes..lame.

  • April 20, 2006, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Bullumhead

    by kuryakin

    Hello. If you are still here let me answer your post. First of all yes, I do understand freedom of speech. It is true that racists have the right, like Buffyfanboy, to write whatever garbage they want. However, I don&#39;t know where in the world you are ( US I guess) but in most countries there are laws prohibiting incitement to violence etc so those rights are not without limit. The right to free speech is curtailed by other rights, there&#39;s give and take when it comes to a person&#39;s or a group of peoples&#39; rights to live their lives without fear of violence or harassment. Anyway, your point about how the victims of racism can shout back just as loudly - sadly this is not the case. In Denmark for example, the media is entirely controlled by the white, Christian majority. When the system itself is endemically racist, how can a person speak back against it? Besides which the point I was making, which you entirely missed, was not what motivated the cartoonists in the first place ( I think it&#39;s obvious) but rather why other media outlets chose not to show it. And it comes back to free speech. The cartoonist may have the right to say what he wants but the newspapers have the right not to repeat it, nor does he have the right to force them to repeat it. And as far as the depiction of Mohammed and Jesus in South Park goes - well I didn&#39;t even comment on those but what I would say is that it isn&#39;t at all the point that Mohammed was "just standing there" - the point is the intent. Why would they want to show the image in the first place? Either to show up Comedy Central as scaredy-cats (in which case they knew it wouldn&#39;t get shown and were fake offended) or to piss off Muslims. Which is pointless anyway since the guys running around smashing things up were arseholes who were using the cartoon debacle as an excuse and weren&#39;t really that offended by the image. If I were a Muslim I would be offended not by the idea that South Park showed Mohammed but that once again I was being lumped in with a bunch of crazy bastards on the other side of the world and that some smart arse white guys were trying to provoke them, making my life worse. And not even being particularly funny about doing it. And as far as Buffyfanboy goes, mate I already said I think he&#39;s just a troll. His misspelling of Salman Rushdie&#39;s name was just typical of his stupidity. Why bother arguing with him and his racist, factually incorrect ranting?

  • April 20, 2006, 4 a.m. CST

    Maybe if they took more than 2 days to write an ep

    by kuryakin

    They might actually write a funny one.

  • April 20, 2006, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Hiya, Roland!

    by the maven

    I didn&#39;t mean to imply that you or all talkbackers to "Cartoon Wars" missed the point; just that many people here (and at a lot of other sites on the web) did. Actually, until this week&#39;s ep (which was hilarious) aired and the pussy jokes started showing up, this talkback was a lot more intelligent than the one last week.You

  • April 20, 2006, 4:55 a.m. CST

    See now this one was funny

    by kuryakin

    The arsehole being called Gary was a classic. And "This is the most unstable vagina I&#39;ve ever spoken to" More of this stuff please

  • April 20, 2006, 5:40 a.m. CST

    He&#39;s a little fond of chiffon in a wrist array

    by BabatuFerguson

    Come on, if you&#39;re so cool you should at least get the quote right...

  • April 20, 2006, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Translation of the response

    by KCMOSHer

    &#39;Dear Comedy Central viewer, We have received your complaint surrounding our decision to bend over and take Islam&#39;s smelly, uncircumsized cock up our cowardly, liberal asses. We would just like to say, in our defense, we are jaded, hypocritical asshats without a shred of moral or intellectual integrity. You should know, as part of Viacom, that we are all coporate monkeys enslaved to the legal department when they aren&#39;t whoring us out to make them money by lampooning safe, American icons of goodness and decency. The lawyers said &#39;no way&#39; to the recent attempt at actual relevant social commentary on South Park, so like the hypocritical little bitches we are, we instantly started chugging their man meat and called them daddy. We&#39;d apologize for the fact that we&#39;re such gutless, spineless little shitpiles, but we&#39;re a little busy being rogered vigorously by an elite team of buggerers from the Scientologists. Sincerely, cum-chugging douchenozzles at Comedy Central.&#39;

  • April 20, 2006, 6:54 a.m. CST

    I LOVES Me Some South Park...

    by Sean38

    ...but this episode was WEAK. I think the boys must have been exhausted after the brilliance of Cartoon Wars and took the week off.

  • April 20, 2006, 7:21 a.m. CST

    You&#39;re a Towel

    by Varakor

    last night ep, I found, was much funnier the second time around. I just thought it was cute when anyone would point out Towlie is "just a towel" and his snappy little comeback is " No, you&#39;re a Towel" Geez just thinkin about it, is crackin me up. Secondly, to anyone who&#39;s trying to "read into this ep", just let it go, there was nothing to it but silly fun. Cartoon wars, yea that was deep shit, but this ep, eh it was kewl. My question is, why isn&#39;t there a talkback for cartoon network&#39;s dumb as shit idea to air fucking "saved by the bell" in their midnight adultswim block. Talk about lame as shit!

  • April 20, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Last night&#39;s eppy was funny...

    by Childe Roland

    ...but not "ha-ha" funny. I tend to agree it was probably another volley aimed at Comedy Central with little or no regard for the viewing audience. Come back to us Matt and Trey. We miss you. As for your revelation, Brodester, good for you. I&#39;m not sure if you got a hold of some good, consciousness-expanding weed or just talked yourself around to a broader, deeper understanding of the relationship between religion and culture, but it&#39;s refreshing to see you opening your mind. And maven, are you sure your South Park fan friend didn&#39;t get what Matt and Trey were trying to do with Cartoon Wars or did he just find it uninteresting/unfunny? I thought it was very intersting TV, but it really didn&#39;t make me laugh once. Yet I completely got it. When a show takes an approach like this, there&#39;s room for a whole lot of differently nuanced responses.

  • April 20, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    My earlier post was merely a clever, subtle parody

    by MrBoinfoint

    Uhm... yeah... no really. But seriously, how many episodes have featured none of the main cast? And how many have ever featured a five minute static shot of one image with only voices? They knew the follow-up to Cartoon Wars would be heavily scrutinized, so they chose to do an off-the-wall, seemingly pointless, potentially unfunny and audience-alienating episode about a drug using towel and a black woman&#39;s vagina. Either it&#39;s very smart counter-programming designed to reinforce the message of Cartoon Wars ("Everything&#39;s funny or nothing is, all it takes is one act of censorship to ruin a show") or it&#39;s a very dumb and lazy and pot-fueled episode.

  • April 20, 2006, 8:51 a.m. CST

    that slippery slope

    by INWOsuxRED

    In cartoon wars they talked about how first one episode gets pulled, then another and so on(its what happened to Laverne & Sherly). For me the chain reaction starts when I see a bunch of mediocre episodes in a row, followed by one that I get so bored with that I turn it off halfway through(last night). Then another. Then another. Then I don&#39;t even bother to turn the show on unless it is on accident. If that one is bad, forget it. Its what happened to the Simpsons. The only way to get me to keep watching is to have a block of other shows I like. Put it with Arrested Development and I&#39;ll watch. Put it with 2 different versions of Family Guy and suddenly my Sunday night is free. South Park is already stuck with crap like Mencia and Drawn Together, which has me wondering if I will even bother with the rest of the season.

  • April 20, 2006, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Pussies, pussies, pussies

    by howstone

    Showing Jesus taking a crap on Bush and the flag was done for a reason - to show that it&#39;s OK to show something that outlandish as long as it&#39;s not an image of Mohammed. Since other religions behave responsibly to an incident like this, it&#39;s no problem. So the next time a cable network shows "Bruce Almighty", people should complain that they don&#39;t want G-d shown as Morgan Freeman. See what happens then.

  • April 20, 2006, 9:13 a.m. CST

    they can

    by ZO

    bash jesus at will but they can&#39;t bash mohammad? makes a lot of sense. being scared of people getting angry isn&#39;t the way to protect that 1st amendment comedy central. go all out or not do it at all. all their execs should actually WATCH the cartoon wars episodes.

  • April 20, 2006, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Q:(> Muhamed hates Saved by the Bell..

    by Billyeveryteen

    I mean really, what the fuck is going on?

  • April 20, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST

    You know, I thought it was wrist array

    by chrth

    But that never made sense to me. I think area makes more sense. I&#39;ve never looked for the lyrics online, maybe I should

  • April 20, 2006, 9:21 a.m. CST

    PS, I never said I was cool

    by chrth

    It&#39;s cool to recognize stuff like that because you&#39;re a fan. Throwing it random quotes/pop culture references hasn&#39;t been cool since the mid-90s beat it to death.

  • April 20, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST

    It was an interesting episode...

    by DanielKurland

    I didn&#39;t laugh during the entire thing, and sure the concept was a little juvenile, but I didn&#39;t not like it. It&#39;s the type of episode that when it is re-airing in syndication years from now, you&#39;ll be like "It&#39;s that episode where Oprah&#39;s pussy and ass parody Dog Day Afternoon." "That happens." "Yeah, let&#39;s watch." It reminded me kind of the whole Jennifer Lopez episode with Cartman&#39;s hand, obviously that one was funnier, but I think they were both similarly themed.

  • April 20, 2006, 9:49 a.m. CST

    I didn&#39;t even watch...

    by ChrisPC24

    I couldn&#39;t wait to see last week&#39;s episode, but I didn&#39;t even watch last night.

  • April 20, 2006, 9:54 a.m. CST

    The funniest thing about the episode last night...

    by Darth_Nader

    Was how long there was just a closeup picture of Oprah crotch on the screen. No movement whatsoever, just voiceover. Otherwise, this ep was crap.

  • April 20, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Wow, what a stupid episode

    by Trazadone

    I was really disappointed in this. Given their great traffic record recently, this episode was really bad. the time to parody this incident was several months ago. More importantly, it just wasn&#39;t funny.

  • April 20, 2006, 10:32 a.m. CST

    How long did it take to parody the Subway Jared stuff?

    by ElPaw

    A couple of months too?

  • April 20, 2006, 10:36 a.m. CST

    So is every...

    by Christopher3

    Shit episode of SP supposed to be a brilliant, satirical "screw you" to the suits at CC? Come on - this ep was worse than the all-Terence and Philip gag. I would have preferred a retread of the Hennifer Hlopez ep with Cartman&#39;s hand standing in for Jennifer Garner. Now THAT would have been funny.

  • April 20, 2006, 10:53 a.m. CST

    It could be worse

    by chrth

    Could&#39;ve been the Simpsons. They parodied Phantom Menace, what, four years later?

  • April 20, 2006, 12:11 p.m. CST

    VodooV and Franklin

    by MrD

    The actual quote is "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." The "essential" and "temporary" are crucial in making this a truthful statement, because we have ALL given up some liberty for safety at some point or another (and that INCLUDES Franklin).

  • April 20, 2006, 12:11 p.m. CST

    you people are lyin your asses off.

    by chickychow

    you know you were laughin at Oprah&#39;s Minge and Towlie&#39;s exploits ("This is a really good idea...") Like a few others have pointed out, the ep with Miss Hennifer Lopez was quite similar, the gag got old after a while and yet you still found yourself crackin up at it. I&#39;ll admit that this ep missed the boys, they should&#39;ve at least been involved with Towlie a little (or how bout helping the Minge to escape?)

  • April 20, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    This episode just sucked.

    by MrD

    Not a fan of Towelee, or stoner comedy in general, but thirty minutes of Oprah&#39;s snatch talking to her asshole? It wasn&#39;t funny. It didn&#39;t make a point that anyone cares about. It was just plain dumb.

  • April 20, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    The SP Hit Streak ...

    by werttrew

    ...ended abruptly with that terrible episode.

  • April 20, 2006, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Christopher 3....

    by Banky the Hack

    Them&#39;s fighting words. The all Terrance and Phillip episode was awesome in every way. Take it back. I will agree with you and many others here, though, that last night&#39;s episode was craptacular. Gary&#39;s voice reminded me more of someone from Little Britain more than League of Gentlemen though.

  • April 20, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    If Christians become violent, they&#39;re not being ...

    by chrth

    Christian. There&#39;s a reason "Turn the other cheek" appears in the New Testament. If Christians become violent, then the terrorists win.

  • April 20, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Bad episode.

    by Thumper2k1

    Drugs are for sheep. Drug humor are for cows. Oprah, as the episode so rightly pointed out, is for retards.

  • April 20, 2006, 2 p.m. CST

    I&#39;ll admit that the VOICES were funny...

    by DanielKurland

    And how they know how to parody relationships like when "Gary" died, but it still didn&#39;t make for a good episode. "Smug Alert" wasn&#39;t that strong either, but for some reason, I still think this episode will become very much loved in the syndicated stream. Next week let&#39;s get an "AWESOM-O" or a "Casa Bonita".

  • April 20, 2006, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Define "irony":

    by mascan

    A network censoring an image of Mohammed on an episode about a network censoring an image of Mohammed.

  • April 20, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    And by the way, they were bad Scottish accents.

    by Lenny Nero

  • April 20, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Pretty Sad Season

    by _Maltheus_

    But keep em comin&#39;. Thorough intoxication was needed for any laughs to come from last night&#39;s ep.

  • April 20, 2006, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Guys Shut Up

    by WolfmanNards

    Every one of you, just buy some crayons and draw a bunch of your own Muhammed&#39;s and mail them to the middle east. Make sure to leave a return address.

  • April 20, 2006, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I just love the logic around here.

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    On one hand you defend Comedy Central&#39;s choice in censuring Mohammed from a South Park episode as exercizing free speech, yet demand that everyone criticizing Comedy Central for its decision shut up. At least you&#39;re consistant about being in favor of censuring things you disagree with, I suppose.

  • April 20, 2006, 4:55 p.m. CST

    gary glitter

    by Groggy

    can&#39;t believe the bastards shot him

  • April 20, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Gary was such an asshole.

    by Kent Goldings

    This episode was embarassing.

  • April 20, 2006, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Ok, several of you have speculated...

    by Shermdawg

    that Matt and Trey lift ideas and quotes from these talkbacks. Well if thats the case, I want Butters and Ike to have their first scene together in the next episode, and end it with Ike walking off (shaking his head) commenting on how big a pussy Butters is.

  • April 20, 2006, 8:33 p.m. CST

    I&#39;ll admit

    by VoodooV

    the talking vag and asshole was funny. Towlie is always fun, but the rest was pure crap. So, my TV History only goes back so far. (I&#39;m actually old enough to have seen Laverne and Shirley when it aired, but I didn&#39;t give a shit about politics at that age) so someone enlighten me...what happened with L&S?

  • April 20, 2006, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Towelee episode in homage for 4/20?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Did anybody wonder this, if this episode focusing only on Towelee was meant to honor today (4/20)?

  • April 20, 2006, 11:20 p.m. CST

    This episode was shit.

    by Neo Zeed

    And these guys have the balls to insult Family Guy...This ep was lame. I&#39;m talking Night Court in it&#39;s fifth season lame.

  • April 21, 2006, 1:08 a.m. CST

    nothing happened with Laverne and Shirley

    by MrD

    Absolutely nothing. The show was completely inoffensive, at most only vaguely hinting at sex, but I suspect even that was rather rare. L&S was about as vanilla a sitcom as you could ever get, and this for a show that was a contemporary of MASH and All in the Family. Threes Company and Facts of Life pushed the envelope more than L&S, which is probably WHY P&S chose to single it out - looking to get a laugh from irony. However, it seems too much of their audience doesn&#39;t recall the show well enough (if at all) to get the gag.

  • April 21, 2006, 2:04 a.m. CST

    they should at least uncensor it for the DVD

    by shalashaska

    am i right?

  • April 21, 2006, 7:36 a.m. CST

    bullies

    by stvnhthr

    Cool, I guess it is back to picking on faiths who believe in turning the other cheek. Yeah, you guys are loyal warriors in protecting the First Ammendmant. Well, at least you got us laughing.

  • April 21, 2006, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Toweleeie was perfect; day before 4:20

    by R.C. the "Wise"

  • April 21, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Wanted to laugh...

    by reelfan

    ...but just couldn&#39;t. It was simply unfunny. It could be a way of Matt and Trey&#39;s protest to CC, but either way it was not entertaining. Let&#39;s see Tom Cruise come out of the closet with Tom-Kitten Suri, maybe the boys can go see Brokeback Mountain...come on there&#39;s gotta be better storylines!

  • April 21, 2006, 11:14 a.m. CST

    That episode was great

    by JayDiggler

    How is a close-up of Oprah&#39;s vagina, talking about not being touched not funny? I laughed the whole time, especially the part when minge and gary had the phone between Oprah&#39;s legs can called Geraldo. I hope Oprah saw that episode, the fat ****. Oh and I love family guy but that part with the manatees pushing joke balls to create a episode was hilarious.

  • April 21, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Two more cents...

    by GaiustheBrave

    MKiro, you made some legitimate points, but I had to disagree with you on one thing: the "they&#39;re just looking for an excuse for another 9/11" part. Trust me, they don&#39;t need another excuse; they have plenty written down somewhere in someone&#39;s Hate Journal. They&#39;re like picky children who are never happy no matter what they&#39;re given. And, I&#39;m not saying this about all Muslims, just the squeaky hinge on the door that is Islam. I imagine their plans for another attack would not be sped up by an image of Muhammed on a cartoon on cable. Just my opinion, and I make no claims to being an intellect-chule. BTW, this week&#39;s episode was NOT funny. We get it, it&#39;s a talking vagina. Ha, ha, ha.

  • April 21, 2006, 7:56 p.m. CST

    You didn&#39;t find that funny?

    by ian216a

    Then you haven&#39;t watched as much Monty Python as Trey and Matt have. The British and Scottish accents were no accident for sure. And for those who don&#39;t know - Gary is Cockney Rhyming Slang for your Arse (Gary Glitter - Shitter). I was laughing as soon as Mingey started talking, roaring when Gary joined in , and pretty much have been since then. The static shots of Oprah&#39;s crotch with just the voice-overs were the funniest examples of absurbist humour I have seen since Chris Morris&#39;s heydays of Brasseye and The Day Today. There&#39;s a difference between writing funny ideas and funny gags.

  • April 21, 2006, 8:02 p.m. CST

    and another thing

    by ian216a

    .. I&#39;d paid to watch a Mingey and Gary spin-off series.

  • April 21, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    pay even

    by ian216a

  • April 21, 2006, 10:05 p.m. CST

    The part where Oprah&#39;s vagina pulled out a gun...

    by theoneofblood

    Was the funniest thing I&#39;ve seen on South Park in a long time.

  • April 21, 2006, 11:24 p.m. CST

    easily the worst episode ever made

    by 81666

    and i really enjoy south park, this ep is very unfunny. ;-(

  • April 22, 2006, 5:25 a.m. CST

    We were attacked without showing an image of Mohammad.

    by DOGSOUP

    Just a thought.