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Harry says, 'ABOMINABLE aint abominable, but wonderful!' - plus mini-reviews a bunch of others!
Hey folks, Harry here… I know I’ve been out of the loop for a bit – but life has been crazy – what with the tasks of my other professional engagements, the forging of a new life with “Yoko Yubari” and just editorial & administrative work here at AICN. Having said that – I’ve continued to see the various films that have been coming out.
My fave of the recent releases is probably BRICK – which I think is a brilliant application of the covenants of the Film Noir genre mold as applied to a High School flick. Stylistic, sharp and smart as hell. I really do feel it is a remarkable film… but then you’ve probably heard that.
I enjoyed THE WILD, though I wish that MADAGASCAR hadn’t polluted the story realm of this flick – as I do believe Spaz did a better job of it. And I mean that from the point of view of better animation and character design. I loved the audacious stylistic choices that were made. I thought the “pigeons” – “chameleons” – “those crazy carnivore cow things” and the Koala just kicked the appropriate amount of ass. Some of the jokes fell flat. And there was the unfortunate reality that it all felt like well traveled territory due to MADAGASCAR – but both of these films have been in the development world for quite some time.
I loved INSIDE MAN – thought it was easily the best film I’ve seen from Spike Lee in quite some time. Just a consummate “sting” situation, where you were constantly kept guessing. Having said that, I’ve liked most of Spike’s recent films, I just felt that Clive Owen was just such a magnetic personality in the film, that I just believed the story that much more. That said, SHOOT ‘EM UP is going to be the movie that launches Clive into the stratosphere… or at least I hope it will.
V FOR VENDETTA – I covered in my Top Ten list at the end of last year. I think it is a great film. I’ve seen it 5 times now and can not wait to own it on DVD. Could very well be Natalie’s best role ever. I think it’s gorgeous, poignant and just flat out a fantastic adaptation of the world the comic created. The Wachowski Brothers did a great job as producers to protect this film through the studio system. Great work.
FAILURE TO LAUNCH was a fun little ditty. A cloud lite comedy that mainly benefits from the pure awesome casting of Terry Bradshaw as the Dad to Matthew’s character. His Nude room sequence was hilariously unexpected and funny as hell in that… I didn’t expect to see that today, type of things. That said, it was awfully light. Didn’t really engage me completely – but was fun. I saw this back in late January on an early date with Yoko, and she and I had a light time with it – but agreed that it was just one of those things where how could he ever trust that manipulative lil bitch that was so controlling of his life --- and presumed to try and put an end to a lifestyle he held dear. Ahem.
Loved SLITHER to death. Thought it was a fantastic modern version of a balls out 80s horror flick. Wonderful slimy and gooey make up. However, having said that – I just kinda wish it had gone ever further. I love it. But, I just wanted DEAD ALIVE craziness. I wanted absurdity times a thousand. Ya know? But for a studio horror film… I kinda can’t believe they made it. Having said that – I’ve heard that it’s failure at the box office has gone a long ways towards dooming FEAST from ever being released by DIMENSION. I really hope not. The lesson from SLITHER isn’t that Horror Comedy can’t make money. It’s that you have to market it better. The trailers for the film were dreadful. I loved the poster, but I wish they’d had a serious of absurd posters and images to push from the film. And I really hope the Weinsteins go ahead and release FEAST this October. It’s a great crazy horror film.
Speaking of… there’s a film that doesn’t have significant distribution yet, that I’ve been given an early look at that was sort of why I set out to write this.
There have been a number of BIGFOOT, YETI and ABOMINIBLE SNOWMAN movies – and excuse me, but they all fucking sucked. From THE LEGEND OF BOGGY CREEK to THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN to THE SNOW CREATURE… They’ve all just sucked. The best one was HARRY AND THE HENDERSONS, but then that was a “funny” film. A family film. The horror possibilities of the fearfully Abominable creature have languished in the hands of lesser filmmakers for over a half century now, the best BIGFOOT film is the little 1 minute sucker shot in 1967 by Bob Gimlin and Roger Patterson… the infamous “caught footage.” Rumors have gone around that the creature was created by John Chambers (of PLANET OF THE APES infamy) but these rumors have been denied for the last 40 years. This bit of film… God, the number of conversations I had about it. I remember once talking for like 2 hours with Guillermo Del Toro about that 1 minute of film. Listening to Guillermo lecture me on how it isn’t a costume. That in the footage, you can see the fur moving as though muscles and weight were attached to it like a real living creature would move. Contrasting it to the “fakery” of Chewbacca and how Chewie’s fur isn’t attached to muscles and as a result – YOU CAN TELL!
I shit you not. Guillermo is really into this sort of thing. So is Paul Dini. And a great many other celebs. They love BIGFOOT, the YETI and ol Bumble. Probably my favorite Abominable Snowman was in that dang RUDOLPH THE RED NOSED REINDEER. Again… Comedy.
Then – One day on MySpace I was befriended by Ryan Schifrin – who wrote a letter wanting to know if I would be interested in seeing his debut film. ABOMINABLE. One look at the Drew Struzan art and the cast list which carried the names of Dee Wallace Stone, Jeffrey Combs and Lance Henriksen… and a score by Ryan’s dad, LALO SCHIFRIN… well, shit… that’s all I needed to know.
The first time I watched Ryan Schifrin’s ABOMINABLE – it was on my 14 inch Laptop screen with headphones while sitting in the dark at 4am in my tiny one room apartment while Yoko was asleep. It completely captured me. But… you know when you’re the only conscious person in a dark room in the middle of the night – there’s a chance that – well, you’re more susceptible to scares. The shadows of the room play with you. Make you feel unsafe. And with this film, where things stay in the shadows, till they decide to come out… it will fuck with you.
So the second time I watched it was at the new Geek Headquarters for 2. I’ve got a wonderful high end SHARP DLP projector and a 13 ft screen. It was a nice little night of film and merriment at Casa Del Knowles.
We had just watched a gorgeous letterboxed print of Fernando Di Leo’s TO BE TWENTY. A film with a curious amount of similarities to Eli Roth’s HOSTEL. The breathless Italian beauty of Gloria Guida and Lilli Carati had hypnotized our intimate audience with their “young, hot and pissed off” declarations… and though the amorous anthem of “la cultura” has entered my repertoire of film inside jokes forever… the film was rough and repetitive and it trimmed the audience we had to myself, Yoko, Babyface Nelson, Annette Kellerman and the bionically hip Stuntrocker!
Now – when the film played – we were seeing it nearly 13ft wide and 9ft tall in full Dolby Digital… and let me tell you… Lalo’s fucking score will curl the short hairs like a midget’s hot iron. With a few exceptions – the genre that Lalo is probably least considered for – is Horror. Western is probably the least. But Horror – hell the last full on Horror score that maestro Lalo scored was AMITYVILLE II: THE POSSESSION, a film I happen to be a huge fan of. He did do the original AMITYVILLE HORROR and DAY OF THE ANIMALS – but it’s a scarce plate of horror in a pretty damn diverse and filled career. The score for ABOMINABLE was absolutely inspired. Whether it was his wish to just kick ass for his son… or just the fact that he had a pretty goddamn good horror film to score… he did the most with it, and it shows.
This film is cheap. You can tell there wasn’t A LOT of money here… but the cast and crew did the most with what they had. First off, Matt McCoy does a great job of a guy coming back from a traumatic incident that essentially destroyed his life… to having to face something much much worse. The film takes elements of REAR WINDOW, 80’s Slasher films and just Man In Suit creature films to come up with something kinda special.
The scene of the 3 hunters – looking to bag “squatch,” as Jeffrey Combs calls him… well the scene is kinda beyond perfect. You got Jeffrey Combs as a coke bottle glass wearing oxygen tubed chain-smoking legend freak… Lance Henriksen as a fan of the Darwin Awards that loves to kill things and then ol Rex Linn, who found huge bites out of his 1200 lb quarter horse that just wants to bag this beast so he can sleep again. The three of them and a fire and the woods filled with noises, scents and wonderful horror film repartee! You just won’t believe how well done this scene is.
Matt McCoy’s paraplegic that talks to himself is great. He has this glimpse of the “whatever it is” in the woods. Just the red eyes – turning and focusing on him… His reaction is possibly the best single reaction in the history of cinema to, “I just saw something in the woods that shouldn’t fucking be there” that I’ve ever seen. He’s making underwear streaks with ever second of his tensed silently shitting self. It’s great.
As for the monster itself. It’s one part hysterical. But perhaps nine parts freaky fucking scary on top of that. Credit for the creature design reportedly goes to Federico D’Alessandro – who according to his IMDB page has certainly been seeing his career rocket since this film. On WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE and I AM LEGEND next.
However, the physical creation of the “Abominable” was overseen by Christien Tinsley… the make-up artist credited with the invention of the Prosthetic 3-D tattoo transfers used in THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST to create that lashed shredded meat of Christ look… and I don’t know which was more disturbing… that, or Abominable. First off… there’s the fucking gaping toothy maw of the creature. The whole thing is like a redneck nightmare version of me. It’s just disturbing as hell to see a creature that has your own personal look going for it. But then I’ve seen people in the world that reminded me of the Predator before. But hell – this thing is freaky awesome.
The slow build to the reveal is great, and there’s Fangoria cover quality gore in this thing. And two window gags that just kick unholy ass.
As of right now – there’s a beyond limited release planned for the film. Opening this past 14th of April in Seattle. Then April 21st in Los Angeles.
I kind of hate the fact that this is coming to the SciFi channel in late May. It deserves nationwide theatrical release. I get a lot of the shitty SciFi channel movies in advance and there’s never been a single one that I’ve given two shakes at a urinal for… this one though. This is fun. Scary. And above all other things… Freaky. Freaky is an underrated emotional response to a horror flick, but this has it in spades – and I know for a fact that with an audience… with the right perfect sound – it will kick an audience’s ass.
Hell – at my place – it elicited SCREAMS from not just Yoko… but seasoned jaded Genre hussy, Annette Kellerman. Seriously. Annette screamed. How fucking great is that? And she doesn’t do that regularly.
Now is this a great horror film? No. But it is a fantastic grade B horror flick. It’s old fashioned and fun. And Scary. And definitely FREAKY. And fun.
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...like, you could totally see the zipper if you watch the HD-DVD version.
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and they better use that poster art and not some asstacular Photoshop crap for the cover!
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A guy who was long expected to be the guy in the suit has confessed several times. He's also known for trying to cash in wherever he could. The footage still hasn't been proven -anything-...but recent digital clarifications and stabilization (like the recent work done on the Kennedy Zapruder film) show even more detail that make it look nearly impossible to reproduce even today using practical FX, nevertheless by two farm guys in the backwoods in the 60's. Del Toro is right: you can clearly see musculature moving with the hair, something no one has -ever- mimicked on a creature more than human-sized. Add in thigh and upper-arm bones that don't add up to human potential and you've got a real tough hoax explanation to prove. Oh, and the other thing discovered by recent digital clarifications? TITS. That's right fellas, Bigfoot is a SHE. At least, the one in the Gimlin/Patterson film. Makes fakery even less likely...why come up with 100% realistic swaying hairy boobs if you're hoaxing? Just have it be a male, it isn't like there are 7-8' tall women running around looking to model hairy track suits for giggles. Oh yeah, and now I DO want to see this movie, which I expected to be crapola due to the Sci-Fi relation.
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I was petrified at the Bigfoot
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Or will they be showing everything Harry saw? I guess I'm lucky to have seen Boggy Creek at a young enough age that it really freaked me out. Haven't seen it since I was a kid though. I'm still wating for a kickass Bigfoot movie & I'm even more anxious for a good Mothman movie. Fuck the dreamlike premonition shit, I need an 8 foot tall flying thing w/ big ass red eyes chasing a car full of scared teenagers. That's what Mothman is all about, not some voice on the phone saying "chapstick."
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I checked up on him at IMDB, thinking, "that's not Lloyd Brawn from Seinfeld & Guttenberg-Lite from the later Police Academy flicks is it?" It IS him. And this is his THIRD bigfoot movie! I wonder if he's a "Big" fan.
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Did they really halted production? Someone fill me in PLEASE
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Not unless Lance has made another low budget bigfoot flick. I watched half of it, and lost interest. I think it was a holiday marathon or something they had going on, cause they had this, Lake Placid, and Josh Holloway's Sabretooth all airing around the same time.
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The stabilised footage proved beyond doubt that it was a man in a suit.
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/files/mk_davis_pgf.gif
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First of all, it's a shame this site doesn't dedicate more bandwidth to a serious critique of adult cinema (and by serious, I don't means the occaisonal reference to sticky keyboards). Specifically, however, this is a perfect opportunity to shed some light on a sub-genre of pornographic films that is quickly gaining popularity: sasquatch porn. Unlike, say, bestiality, porn centering on coitus between a human and a hairy humanoid beast taps into something primordial in many people, especially hirsute women.
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... The Andre the Giant/Lurch (the both played the role) Bigfoot who guested on "Six Million Dollar Man" in the mid-70s. Turns out Biggfoot was an alien cyborg butler/errand boy... er... ape... whatever! Ah, the 70s... no other decade could do "cheesy" like the 70s!
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... I still can't make out anything. It's as blurry and as poor quality as any UFO footage and you can't tell anything from it. Looks like a guy in a suit, but if it was an actual ape man, it'd still probably look like a guy in a suit simply because your mind wouldn't except what you were seeing having no prior experience of such a creature. Then again, that fur looks just a little too shiny...
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After 4am...Yoko's asleep...time to break out the laptop and bust loose with some steamy Squatch-vids. This fucking sounds awesome. I'm popping popcorn. Oh, and "lashed shredded meat of Christ" is my new slogan for the day.
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You could make one review, and it would apply to most, if not all, porn flicks: "The acting was bland and unenthusiastic. The storyline was paper-thin, and seemed simply put in place to string together a bunch of unrelated sex scenes. However, the girl on girl scene was worth the $5.99 you'll spend on ebay."
And, if Bigfoot is real, where is he, well she, hiding? My theory: the aliens have developed highly-sophisticated cloaking technology, where they have hidden the last remnant of bigfoots (or, bigfeet?)because they know something we don't. Fortunately, the secret got out. Michaelangelo stumbled upon the secret, and has left subtle clues in his paintings. It's a secret so powerful, it would shake the very foundations of mankind! That's right...Jesus was a Bigfoot! -
>>Looks like a guy in a suit, <<
It is a guy in a suit. That's what the stabilized footage shows.
Previously believers had claimed that it didn't walk like a man, that you could see ape muscles moving under the skin etc etc.
It's clearly just a guy in a suit. Red faces all around for the 'experts' and cryptozoologists! -
I would never have thought that looking at the same damn footage again for the bazillionth time in my life, now in black & white, would FINALLY show me that it is a definite hoax. Jesus, I though you were going to show me the guy unzip the suit & light up a smoke or something. Or better yet, have the camera man yell at him because his watch is showing!!!
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At Animal Kingdom. Scared the hell out of me. But then, I was high so my own hands scared the hell out of me.
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They've had several experts watch it and have come away convinced, saying there are muscle movements impossible to convey in a costume today, much less forty years ago. The best site has to be http://bfro.net, there is a page devoted to the Patterson footage here too: http://bfro.net/news/challenge/green.asp
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Jane Goodall, the Gorillas in the Mist chick, thinks Bigfoot is real. I used to believe.
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It's in the first sentence of every review you write these days. We don't care. Give it a rest already.
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BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH FUCKING CREATURE. WAKE-UP DAYDREAMERS. as for the stabilized footage, why did they convert it to B&W? on a related note: i like when NY1 captures footage of Will Ferrel in Elf in Central Park. pretty funny.
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The creature in the footage didn't move very fast, and it didn't appear that far away SO WHY DIDN'T THEY FOLLOW IT?! And surely this enormous creature with lumbering movements would've left behind some physical evidence, right? All that was ever found in the area from the footage was one footprint. Believers in the talkback, I welcome any rebuttals you may have.
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Okay...so even scientists disagree on Bigfoot. So unless you're a scientist, all you have left is your nerd opinions. STFU and move on with life.
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it's just a guy in a suit. that's why Harry gets so excited and screams MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! all the time.
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the sasquatch riddle. Then they figured out it was a missing link.
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That was a kickass "In Search Of." With Leonard Nimoy kickin' out the jams. Yeah!
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Apr 18, 2006 11:01:19 AM CDT
He captured imagination of people all around the globe.
by jar jar 4 prez
His name was sasquatch... so I'm told.
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of the indian tribes. Apache tribes.
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he is real. Take a look at the plaster cast of his foot (now you know he's real).
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Not human. No... You know he's real.
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No fuckin' way! No... you know he's real.
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i neglected to look at the plaster cast. my bad.
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Real. Really real. Real. Real. Real. Really real. Real!
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We all know that you're just here monitoring.
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Dian Fossey was the person depicted in "Gorillas in the Mist." Jane Goodall is known for studying the chimps in the Gombe Stream Research Center in Tanzania. But, yes, I believe she did say that she believes a creature such as Bigfoot could exist today in dense forests and low-populated areas.
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Let me play devil's advocate for a moment. Say you were in the woods and came across a bear. Would you follow it? Now replace the bear with a creature that's supposedly doesn't exist, and could very well have near-human level intelligence. Would you follow it? Or would you stand frozen like these gentlemen did? I am not advocating that the film is real or a hoax. I'm just throwing out stuff to think about.
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Wasn't he in a bigfoor movie that already aired on Sci-Fi a couple years ago?
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I've never the original japanese version, called "The Abombinable Snowman," but the US version "Half-Human" depicted the last creature of a dying race trying to continue his line (something for you Bigfoot porn fans). The original has been banned for a controversial depiction of a native asian race and the implication of beastiality. It would be quite a coup to get a copy of that film.
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I never thought would be checking a big ape's butt for authenticity, but that is why I love this site.
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Every talkback needs a story like this, and this one is seriously true, such as it is: I was camping around the Three Sisters in Oregon, near an obsidion field. I was purifying some water, bored. I looked up at the ridges along this valley, and I saw something moving. I thought it might be a bear, so I got pretty freaked out. I waved one of the dudes on the trip over and pointed it out, but it didn't move. We stood there looking at the ridge for a few minutes, and then we saw what looked like just a head or something, nothing too weird, and we tried to see if it was a bear by its shape and couldn't really tell. This guy had those bear pepper spray cans and said not to worry if it came down, and he started calling out to it, making weird noises. Now I can't tell you what this thing was, but it went from something the size of a head to looking like something that stoof up half upright. Keep in mind though this is very far away, but my eyes could not reason how something stood up that tall. We went with another guy up the ridge, very slowly, and as soon as we got to the incline of the valley, it sunk behind a rock. We got up to the top, and didn't find any footprints, any hair, any anything. We laughed at ourselves for believing it could be a Bigfoot. We were giving each other shit about it when we heard a very loud snort, not like a pig, but like a burst of air coming out of a nose, maybe 20 yards down the other side of this ridge. We pissed our pants a little and then walked slowly down the ridge so as not to start a chase, in case it was a bear. We decided it had to have been that, but I'll tell you, ever since that day I have been a lot more of a believer in something like that. It seems impossible, and it probably was just a bear who stood on his hind legs, but it really did not look like that to my eyes. At the very least, it made me believe that people can genuinely believe they have seen a bigfoot, even if they didn't.
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Would I follow a bear? Hell no! Now on the other hand, if I came across a mythical creature whose discovery would not only mark my name in history, but also shift the entire world's notion of reality, then I would push through the fear even if I was pissing down my leg the whole time. And it should be noted that Patterson was a "bigfoot researcher" who specifically went out that day hoping to spot one, so it's hard believe he would've just frozen up.
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Abominable has not just only a cool poster (It's PAINTED!!! Or at least it looks like that.), but also Jeff Combs AND Lance Heriksen in it! Reason enough for me to see it.
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Oh, my bad, it was right there in the FIRST SENTANCE YET AGAIN! But that's cool, I remember my first girlfriend, too (Angela Hasselback, third grade). BEWARE HARRY!!! YOKO BROKE UP THE BAND!!! And that Linda Eastman chick was kind of a douche, too. Ringo & George's wifes were cool though, even though Eric Clapton was busy porking Patti while George was all high and shit. Here's a scene I'd like to see in FANBOYS... a fat assed Harry, in a White Suit, walks into a movie theater and sees Yoko's movie playing, which is just a white background with the word "YES" projected on the screen. They fall in love and spend a week in Toronto, in a bag, eating chocolate cake after chocolate cake. How cool would that be? Can't wait for S.O.A.P....and re: Bigfoot: if you look closely enough you can see him on the Grassy Knoll. Coincidence? I think not.
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that's why he didn't follow. By the time he got to where the thing had entered the woods, they had lost sight of it. So he has claimed.
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Lest we forget, DOG SOLDIERS was the first and still the best of the SciFi originals, so I'm always holding out hope for another good one! This thing sounds like a lot of fun.
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Yes, that's HER name, "Patty". She was a female Sasquatch estimated to be anywhere from 5 1/2 to nearly 7 feet tall. And for the record, that 16mm film has NEVER been proven to be a hoax. There have been some compelling arguments made based upon a Mr. Bob Heironimus who stepped forward and claimed to be the "man-in-suit". However, the visible forensics in the film point to a musculature that could not be duplicated by a suit in 1967 let alone NOW. The details in the film and the inconsistencies with Bob's story are of constant debate on the Bigfoot Forums website. FYI- the BFRO has fallen somewhat into disfavor by scientists as they seem to be focusing more on marketing and money than actual field research. However, I believe the North American Ape Project (directed by Dr. Jeff Meldrum) may still be underway. Perhaps what is most important is the story that Patterson and Gimlin told regarding the encounter with "Patty". Gimlin, who is still alive and very much respected by experts & skeptics, has maintained exactly the same story and believes that what he saw was an animal.
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fenario80 makes a good point. plus, it has many of my favorite actors from lower budget sci-fi/horror movies. yaaaaay for Jeffrey Coombs!
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Patterson got out from under his frightened horse and then got the footage. And then "Not wanting another spooked confrontation with this bigfoot, Patterson and Gimlin decided not to pursue it into the forest. At that point they felt they had the footage they came for anyway." I personally find this to be an extremely lame explanation. For one thing, the whatever-it-is in the film seems to be taking a casual stroll; no inditication it was spooked. And we're supposed to believe that since they met their initial goal, they had no motivation to go furhter. Yeah, just like when Svetlana offered me a happy ending but I turned it down because I only came for a massage.
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I for one fully believe that a breeding population of 7 foot-plus apes can live in California undetected!
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great. So creepy and weird, fake or not. By the way, am I the only one that thought V for Vendetta was pretty lame? Most of my friends thought so too. Man, I just cringed when they put that Stones song in the end credits...plus the "V" fireworks? I really liked Brick, though.
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I've got a framed THREE O'CLOCK HIGH in my house right now
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I knew that he was "off his horse" so to speak, when he shot the footage. What I meant to say was that because they had horses, they didn't pursue. Like the massage analogy, btw.
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I've heard a lot of ppl who said they didn't care for V much (and some who did.) Personally, I'd say go see Thank You For Smoking, instead. Katie Holmes is irritating, but the movie has one great line: "Hey, Nick, Nick; I'm going to impale your mother and feed her dead body to my dog with syphilis." It's funnier in context, I guess.
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Harry didn't just say that "The Abominable Snowman" (1957) with Peter Cushing and Forrest Tucker sucks, right? Because that is one of my all-time favorite flicks. Even though it's from Hammer Films, it's not a color-saturated cheese-fest, but a black and white suspenseful and cerebral sci-fi movie, written by the great Nigel Kneale (of "Quatermass and the Pit" fame). Look it up. It kicks unholy buttock. And yeah, I don't have a girlfriend.
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In the 1970s and 1980s, my greatest fears as a kid were the threat of nuclear war, waking up my father since he worked third shift, and a full-scale Bigfoot attack on civilization. Okay, maybe not so much an attack but just seeing one of these garantuas come shambling out of the woods. Shows like Boggy Creek, Myths and Monsters, and In Search Of sure fanned those fears. But...as time has moved on, I've come to realize that Bigfoot is just as misunderstood as another "threat" from the Seventies and Eightes...gay people. Back then, people only talked about homosexuals in furtive whispers, treating them like a kind of legendary force man was not meant to encounter, just like the Sasquatch. Images of alledged gay men and women carrying protest signs and throwing pies at Anita Bryant were endlessly debated. Could these be real? Or was it all Hollywood trickery? CBS even aired a special program called "The Homosexuals" that supposedly showcased hitherto unfilmed "gay men," but the quality of said film was deplorable since all the subjects were shrouded in heavy darkness. Today, opinions still range wildly over the subjects of Bigfoot and gay people. They are both called "abominations" by folks who follow a path that says mankind is a unique being in the universe with no equal and no use for same-sex shenanigans. As "Brokeback Mountain" has done for the suspected homosexuals, perhaps "Abominable" will do just the same for the persecuted and suspected Sasquatch community. And then finally, two misunderstood monsters of yesterday can finally come together to set the masses straight...so to speak. Yes, the time will come where the Bigfoot and the gays will march together and make their presence undisputed, from the most urban of environs to the deepest backwoods. Let all those who traffick in fear-mongering and hate beware this alliance, because while it's easy to tell suspected gay people they can't get married because they don't really exist, just try to deny a Bigfoot a marriage license using the same argument.
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If so, that would be awsome! Zombie could pull it off. I really hope they make a good Bigfoot movie. Really make kids scared of the woods. Then maybe they will stay off my lawn. (shakes fist)
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Right?
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like DonkeyBalls. I saw an animal that looked like a bear at first and then it stood up and moved through some thick brush on it's hind legs. I was pretty young at the time, but I know the thing didn't move like a bear.
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...just keeping it real.
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basically is this: before they set out on their film expedition, they had agreed that they would not shoot a Sasquatch should they actually encounter one. While on horseback (with a separate packhorse), they had been tracking several different sets of footprint tracks prior to their run in with "Patty". When the encounter occured, they had just come around a bend with several fallen trees. It is believed that the horses smelled "Patty" before P&G saw her. The horses reared in fear and Patterson fell with his mount. Both would recall that "Patty" was perhaps kneeling in the creek bed and did not hear their initial approach. However, the commotion brought her to her feet and she began to move. Gimlin had apparently regained control of his horse and even brought his rifle to bear. Patterson removed himself from underneath his horse, grabbed his 16mm camera and ran after the creature. (The length of the film is apparently due to the fact that nearly all of it was used during their trip.) "Patty" continues to walk (not run) and disappears into the treeline. Gimlin attempted to follow her but Patterson refused. He was concerned/fearful that there might also be a male nearby based upon the other tracks they had seen. Patterson then made casts of the tracks with Gimlin standing by. They then covered some tracks with tree-bark so as to keep them somewhat safe should it rain after they left. -- Now it gets even better. Within days, a few Bigfoot experts went to the site and found it exactly in the condition P&G described. They photographed the area, found the tracks and followed them up into the treeline. It appeared to them that "Patty" stopped in some ferns and looked down upon the area where P&G were - as if she was looking to see if she was being followed. The tracks then move on through the forest for a considerable distance and ultimately INTERSECTED other tracks. These gentlemen did not pursue these further. -- All of this is thoroughly documented on many indepth documentaries and websites. It's fairly compelling regardless of the lack diehard proof. But the film has yet to be debunked. In fact, due to modern technological advances, scientists' interest in the film has been rekindled. -- Yes, I've had a fascination with that film since childhood...
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I appreciate the "full" story. It makes sense. I heard that the reason she wasn't moving fast was that it was speculated that she might have been prego. Has anyone heard the same? I too have been fascinated with this since I was about seven or eight.
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that once again, leads me to scratch my head. If "Patty's" tracks were found intersecting with other tracks then WHY THE HELL WOULDN'T THEY PURSUE FURTHER?! My personal theory as to why Bigfoot "experts" would stop short like that is they're afraid to discover that their chosen passion is as real as the tooth fairy. I too have always been fascinated by the film. I agree with vinceklortho that's it has a great, surreal quality even if it is fake. And I have to say this has been one of my favorite talkbacks at this site that I can recall.
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What a shocker! Harry reviews 7 movies and likes them all. He's usually so picky. About the Bigfoot, WHERE ARE THE BONES?? Wouldn't we have found a random fibula somewhere? The Loch Ness monster photo from 70 years ago was never disproved either. The guy that did it (as a child)admitted it on his death bed. The more simple the hoax the more difficult it is to disprove. That is why all of those flying saucer photos from the 50s were never disproved. With all of the updated technology no one spots them anymore.
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NBC Deal Will Bring Gas and Video To Pumps--- Motorists will soon be filling up not only with gasoline at their local service-station pumps but with local news, weather and sports, too, NBC said Monday. The video will be provided on video screens installed by VST Media Network at gasoline pumps all over the country. In a statement, NBC stations exec Ric Harris observed that the gas-station video will "provide advertisers with unique digital media marketing solutions to expose their brand to a captive, out of home audience."
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I read that Rob Zombie will direct this, but cannot find the original sources. Anyway, heres what I did find on the net:
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I have not heard that "Patty" may have been pregnant. Though there has been some speculation that there might have been an infant attached around her neck! This is highly dubious and really difficult to make out even in the clearest frames of the film. Yet there is compelling evidence that can clearly be seen in the creature's leg that she may have (at one time) suffered a major hernia in her upper thigh. There is a large bulge that protrudes from her thigh as she strides across the creek bed. It is thought that she may not have been able to run due to this injury which never properly healed. This also helps to account for her awkward gait. (Of course some have said that she did not deem P&G a threat while others just say it's part of the man-in-suit routine...)What's most intriguing is that you can also see that the right leg apparently steps onto a lower surface than the left leg. This causes the entire leg muscle to flex and stiffen. It's right there on the film. If it was a suit, it would have to have been skin tight and the man wearing it had a HELL of a thigh muscle.
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I'm sorry, but I've seen the footage many times. Every time the footage appears on The so-called "Learning Channel", and a narrator is saying, "Look at the musculature moving under the fur! Look at the proportions of the limbs! You can't fake that!" I lean forward, squinting at the screen, wondering WTF they're talking about. I don't see the musculature under the fur, and the proportions look normal to me. There are people who believe in the Cottingley fairy photos too, scrutinizing them for details that "prove" they're genuine... even though they were admitted fakes. I think this is the same situation.
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I suppose it is frustrating to think that folks would cease to follow tracks that could possibly lead them to a major discovery. But there are documented cases of tracks which have been followed for several MILES. These would end for any number of reasons: running water, changes in topography, etc. Not to mention that the person(s) following the tracks may not have been prepared to continue without proper gear...or for fear that they were perhaps getting close and they realized they had no protection! I don't know, the idea of following a 7ft. tall, Bigfoot/Giganto with nothing but a camera, ruler, and some plaster would definitely cause me to hesitate. ;^)
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Personally, I'd like to believe it's real. I've watched the film many times and each time I have a new reaction to it. Everytime I begin to think it's a Man-in-suit, I'll watch it again and think it's a real creature. There are so many abnormalites it really makes you wonder. If you ever get a chance to see a zoomed-in version, the face will give you the creeps, the size of the trapezius muscle will blow you away, and the muscle flex of the legs, shoulders and arms is uncanny enough to make you question just what the hell is on the film.
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that really got my attention. I saw the protrusion and kept looking at it over and over again. I also noticed the glutes and cleft working like you see gorillas in upright posture. What really gets me is the movement of the hands and wrist rotation. If the arms are extensions, the person is a great mimick. I also watched the neck line for any signs that the head was not attached to the trapezius or that there was some weird wrinkling in that area. I couldn't see any. All I know is that stuff like this footage as well what I thought I saw as a kid, will make for some really scary stuff if done right on the big screen.
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I'd really like to check it out.
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But I thought I had a solid lead on discovering a bigfeet (plural?)and I had sufficient resources, I would do whatever it took for however long it took.
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If you're looking for the zoomed footage or enlarged stills, the best place to start would be to purchase the documentary "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science". A buddy of mine bought this simply to watch the Patterson film. The version included is a digital transfer taken from one of the 4 known first-generation copies of the original (I believe I got that correct). The clarity and color are the best I've ever...it really puts you there. They also provide you with a 50% zoomed-in version and slow-mo clips of key segments. Two other Sasquatch films are included as well - The Memorial Day Footage (very interesting) and the Freeman Footage (kinda sketchy). -- From there, you may wish to check out BFRO.net and look through the Bigfoot Forums website. Each has utilized the DVD documentary quite extensively.
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If any of you are interested, check out this link to the BFRO's Bigfoot Audio page. This stuff is completely fascinating. But I urge you to check out the 9-11 Phonecall recording. Tell me that guy doesn't sound genuinely scared! http://tinyurl.com/3rsut
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Gaius, thanks for both the video and the audio. I haven't been to the BFRO site in a couple of years, so I'll have to kill some time at work, er, I mean at home, tomorrow. Some of the audio stuff is really creepy. I read a couple of interviews on the site from area where I hunt deer in WI and it really gave me the creeps. Do you happen to know what Dept. of the Govt. funds BFRO? I know it is the only Govt. funded Bigfoot Org., but I was curious how they get there funding. Beside t-shirts, videos, etc.
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Very real-they look quite comfortable actually.
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Experts declare they can't exist/Like elves and dragons and their kin/Abominable Snowmen they are called/ By disbelieving throngs of men. Beings of power and haunting cries/ The creatures stand twelve feet or more/ Concealed beneath an ashen pelt/ They are a thing of ancient lore. But for those few who seek the beast/ Despite the glacial mountain air/ A strand of fur, a trail of prints/ Let them know the truth lies there. Amid the Himalayan wastes/Where explorers fear to go/ A giant treads amongst the peaks/ Trailing footprints in the snow...
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Losers.
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myspace.com is for fucking teenagers. Oh, wait, heh, that's what you're doing. Get a blog like a grown up.
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But therein lies the problem: 90% of people who like Tenacious D jumped on the bandwagon when the album came out but never saw the show, even when it exploded onto DVD. This dude I know saw my D shirt and said "Whoa, I love Tenacious D!" so I sang Rocket Sauce and he didn't know what I was singing. So sad.
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. . . that was discovered just LAST YEAR in California? It was near Whiskeyville. Some miner that had lived & worked in the area for like 70 years found it. I think that speaks for how friggin' remote these areas are & gives me yet another reason to hang on to the belief that Bigfeet are out there. Life would suck a little more if they were proven not to exist. Now where's my damn Mothman movie done right???
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1983. SoCal mountains outside of Big Bear - approx. 8000 ft. elev. - 1/2 mile up a fire road and approx. 200 yards off the road in a clearing I saw several huge footprints with four toes each. Prints approx. 18 inches long and at least 7 feet apart. Tracks made in snow. It was NOT a goddamn bear.
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We know your legend's real!
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We know your love is real!
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Sure there's plenty of evidence (including a kick-ass D song) that shows us sasquatch is real. However the naysayers out there won't be convinced until some drunk driver behind the wheel of a logging truck runs down bigfoot. Once we have road-kill bigfoot, mystery solved. Next mystery! Oh, and this movie sounds lame. -SDHSFR
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Abominable Snowman with Peter Cushing does indeed kick much ass!
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...here's another factoid to chew on: The Pacific Northwest ranges from Northern California through British Columbia and on up. So far, 100+ planes have crashed or gone down there, and like 7% have been found. And we're talking huge-ass pieces of wreckage, bigger than Sasquatch, and unlike him, completely immobile. Add in that Bigfoot knows to avoid people, and well...there you go. Now...where's my Jersey Devil film? That shit would bitch bad loud!
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...as if you weren't stoned as a coot {[:^) Great, I'm going fishing in the middle-of-nowhere tomorrow and now I'll get all creeped out. Bigfoot attacks!
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I've seen the dude who claimed to be in the suit walking. He walks exactly like the "creature" in the film walks. Bigfoot could be real, but this film is poor evidence one way or the other. Just my $.02.
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I believe one of Kevin Smith's toadies is working on it. It might be whoever made that flick where Daunte the Clown gets ass-raped. But The Jersey Devil & Bigfoot aint got nothing on Mothman.
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being passed around the BBC and LA.
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I mean come ON! Failure to Launch? Really?
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I have been waiting a long time for this movie. I really want to see it on the big screen. I think it would be a perfect candidate for a "Rolling Roadshow" outdoor screening out near some creepy woods somewhere. I would drive fron Houston for that. Make it happen Harry!
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I could also use some more Werewolf flicks. Love them werewolves. I'll rent this one.
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You and Tenacious D are real.
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ANYONE KNOW WHICH MOVIE HOUSE IN LOS ANGELES IS PLAYING THIS THING? I FOR ONE DO NOT HAVE THE CASA DE KNOWLES TYPE SET UP AND WANT TO SEE THIS THING ON THE BIG SCREEN AND ON BIG SPEAKERS...
I'VE BEEN TO ALL THE USUAL SITES, BUT CANT SEEM TO FIND IT. HOPEFULLY ITS THE NEWSPAPER. -
a cow that just swallowed some dynamite? Abominable (a-bomb-in-a-bull). Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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Apr 23, 2006 2:51:04 PM CDT
REAL BIGFOOT CAUGHT BEFORE HARRY HAS A REAL GIRLFRIEND
by undercovercrackr
Harry's "girlfriend": Right hand's name - Yoko. Left hand's name - Yubari.
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BIGFOOT AND WILDBOY: THE MOVIE! Now that would kick all kinds of ass!!! BY-YA-BAAAAAAA!
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that's pretty fucking out there, but you clearly see the big foot has giant boobies, which, er, is so weird, that, it has to be real!
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Well?
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