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Cartman Vs. FAMILY GUY?? The Cartoon Wars Come To SOUTH PARK!!

"Seriously, 'Family Guy' isn't even that well-written.
The jokes are all interchangeable and usually irrelevant to the plot."

I am – Hercules!!

Kyle loves Stewie, Brian, Peter and the gang. Cartman is less fond. A race to California will determine the fate of the animated series “Family Guy.”

But remember: "The Simpsons" mocked "Family Guy" first.

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  • April 5, 2006, 1:47 a.m. CST

    sounds kool

    by proper

    i'll dload this str8 after work.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Bring in Drawn Together and make it REAL interesting

    by covenant


  • April 5, 2006, 1:48 a.m. CST

    The FCC will have kittens

    by covenant

    ...I mean, Family Guy and South Park together?

  • April 5, 2006, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Hmm, interesting concept, covenant

    by oh_riginal

    Peter Griffin, Stewie, Homer Simpson, Cartman, Mr. Burns, the monkey from the closet, Master Shake... number 1 in the hood, G. Mix them all in with Drawn Together, or even make a new Drawn Together, with that cast, lol. See who makes fun of who the best.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:13 a.m. CST


    by Det. John Kimble

    Why not just use that quote dude?

  • April 5, 2006, 2:28 a.m. CST


    by Edison

    What Would L. Ron Hubbard Do? Isn't there a strong scientology faction over in camp Simpsons?

  • April 5, 2006, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Trey and Matt on Family Guy:

    by CLMoose8

    South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone have expressed their discontent at being put at the same comedic level as Family Guy. When questioned about the meanest thing anyone ever said to them, Stone replied "When people say to me, 'God, you guys have one of the best shows on television. You and Family Guy.' That fucking hurts so bad", to which Parker agreed: "Very well said. It's such a kick in the balls."

  • April 5, 2006, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Animated Sit-Coms

    by pammybabe

    It annoys me when The Simpsons writers act as though Family Guy stole their format. Surely the Simpsons just copied every sit-com cliche going (fat, stupid husband, bratish kids, long suffering wife). I could name a million (or at least ten) sit-coms that follow that formula. They weren't even the first to animate it. The Flintstones beat them to it by 20 years. There was even a 70's cartoon I seem to remember called 'Wait Till Your Father Gets Home'.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:40 a.m. CST

    FUCX TREY AND MATT on this issue in particular.

    by LordEnigma

    Plus, fuck their bullshit politics, but Seth and his team of writers continue to create a world that FANS brought back to life. Since that world remains funny, entertaining, and better than South Park of the Simpsons have been in years. Fuck TREY AND MATT in their moronic, Colorado, balding asses.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:42 a.m. CST

    by mmmben

    If you don't recognize the Simpsons (at least the first ten or eleven seasons) as a huge source of all comedy to follow, you're a fucktard.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:44 a.m. CST

    RE: Animated Sitcoms

    by Urge to Kill

    I think what they were talking about was the type of humor like the asides. Which you'll have noticed the Simpsons stopped doing a long time ago. Also I can understand where Parker and Stone are coming from, lately they've been doing a lot more topical stuff thats satirical with a very vicious edge to it.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST


    by Sithlord_999

    Now THAT would be something! (I'll cross my fingers)

  • April 5, 2006, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Anyone who tries to...

    by Poacher about how much funnier Family Guy is than The Simpsons NOW is avoiding the larger issue, that Family Guy isn't in the same league as the first 10 or so seasons of The Simpsons. Who gives a shit if the fans brought it back? The fans of Family Guy in turn caused that shitstorm American Dad, so doesn't that make anything they've done pretty much null and void? And can we just say how much funnier South Park is than either show right now, despite being written and produced in only 6 days?

  • April 5, 2006, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Family Guy is to the Simpsons & South Park...

    by Deep Cover Crash is to Magnolia. In other words, rip-offs with less-talented people.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Family Guy is nothing more than...

    by Shermdawg

    constant pop culture referances, over lapping forgettable cliched sitcom plots. It's funny as hell, but no where on South Parks level when it comes to actual substance. And, you can tell Seth uses the drawn out Peter scenes when the episode is running too short. Example: "POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW! Right in the kisser! POW!..." *sigh*

  • April 5, 2006, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Or, when Peter gets hurt:

    by Shermdawg

    "Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss...Aaah. Sss..." It get's old. But, of course, when Stewie comments on Brians novel, it's perfectly acceptable. :P

  • April 5, 2006, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Hey, that "POW! Right in the kisser!" was damn funny...

    by Supermonkey321

    so who the hell cares if it was just used to fill episode time? My roommates and i were saying that for weeks after that episode and it was funny. Hell, every episode of Family Guy has some good lines that you can't help but repeat for hilarity factor when your a little less than sober. It's great! Simpsons used to be the best, but Family Guy has trumped it. That being said though, i have really gotten tired of seeing the reruns a million times. Lately, i am enjoying watchin the reruns of Futurama a lot more than any of these others. As far as the Simpsons goes, i think all the creative energy that once belonged to them was channelled into Futurama because that show is amazing. I am so glad they are getting a whole new season! And i agree that South Park is a totally different kind of humor, i dont think it's fair to compare them to Family Guy. I love them both equally, and in different ways ;p

  • April 5, 2006, 4:11 a.m. CST

    South park = pretentious

    by Rcamacho2278

    So making a show where they bash chef's personal belief and his personal decisions is having more substance than family guy? Isaac hayes has every right, including god given to make up his own mind about where he belongs in life without having to feel like he will be mocked for those decisions. Isaac Hayes didn't bash Matt and trey publicly. So why make such an episode making him a pediphile? So now some guy tells them their show rocks just like family guy and they get upset that someone has judged them the way they have judged others? Fuck you matt and trey, and fuck the little castle you live in with your high horses.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:49 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Hayes had the highest horse in the neighborhood. Seriousley, he was a hypocrite for leaving. Although, there is that rumor that he wasn't the one that issued the statement.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST

    the sky is blue and all the leaves are green.

    by rebel299

    my heart's as warm as a baked potato. i think you'll know exactly what i mean, when i say its a shpadoinkle day!

  • April 5, 2006, 4:56 a.m. CST

    riding on a high horse

    by rebel299

    i imagine that could get rough. stopping at all the clover patches and streams to quench the munchies and dry mouth. not to mention, wouldn't the horse freak the fuck out if you showed him mister ed!!!

  • April 5, 2006, 5:16 a.m. CST


    by Hell_Bender

    They're all funny apart from Drawn Together. The Simpsons paved the way, Futurama had a lot of heart. Family guy, for all it's puerile posturing can reduce me to hyterics, and South Park, underneath all the (hilarious) silliness, is an outstanding social commentary.

  • April 5, 2006, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Crash & Magnolia

    by BabatuFerguson

    Don't forget that Magnolia is a ripoff of Short Cuts with less-talented people. Doesn't make Magnolia any less great, though...

  • April 5, 2006, 5:43 a.m. CST


    by BabatuFerguson

    Isaac Hayes didn't publicly bash Trey & Matt? I guess calling someone bigoted doesn't qualify? "There is a place in this world for satire but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry toward religious beliefs begins." -- Isaac Hayes

  • April 5, 2006, 5:54 a.m. CST

    South Park pwns Family Guy

    by ChorleyFM

    More humour, wit and intelligence in an episode of South Park than a whole season of family guy, a programme which offers up one good joke an episode.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:05 a.m. CST

    More wit? Que?

    by LordEnigma

    More wit? The show that featured a whole episode that revolved around Tennerman eating his parents, MEcha-Streisand, and a whole episode involving Cartman faking the end of the world to go to a fucking fancy Mexican restaurant is WIT? Funny, sure, but WIT not so much. Anything with Seth involved a much better show than anything involving those two Coloradian jackasses. I do find it funny how AICN has always been a freakin hotbed of South Parh love. And no, American Dad, does not cancel out anything Seth does. American Dad, like Family Guy, has a lot going on in it, that you can blink and miss. But hey, I am an opinionated asshole, hurray!

  • April 5, 2006, 6:06 a.m. CST

    agreed Chorley, but one too many

    by vicious_bastard

    Rarely do people rave about something so "meh". Facile humour.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:07 a.m. CST

    here's the breakdown

    by DarthHomercles

    Family Guy - juvenile humor / South Park - topical, but still juvenile humor / The Simpsons - classic juvenile humor // So you see, though they exist on different comedic planes, they all share a taste for the juvenile that will never die. It's all good.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:12 a.m. CST

    but did he say it?

    by Napoleon Park

    Several reports claim Isaac hayes still hasn't fully recovered his memory or power of speech folowing his January stroke. he's improving, but slowly. And he has huge medical bills (and no residuals from his music career - he got screwed out of those long ago) so he wouldn't quit his only source of income even if he cou'd. It was some Scientician speaking "on his behalf" and without his knowledge or permission that started that whole "Chef quit" nonsense. Or maybe not, all I knows is what I reads on the internets. *** But when Simpsons fans call Family guy a rip-off, they're not talking about the format, because the Simpsons wasn't the first show with a fat guy, hot wife, son, daughter, baby and pet and Family Guy certainly won't be the last. No, the Family Guy Simpsons rip-offs were specific plots (again, many of which are standard sit-com cliches - just the Simpsons parodied them first and usually better) and jokes. Nothing underlines that better than the Family Guy opening credit sequence; an All In The Family parody segueing into a Vegas Revue musical number - both of which the Simpsons did as opening credits gags first. And way back 17 years ago when no one ever heard a cartoon character say hell or damn or discuss sex, The Simpson broke tons of taboos and regularly raised the bar for things you never expected to see on a cartoon show. Now people think they lost their edge because they reached a level they don't want to pass while Family Guy and South Park keep pushing the level of vulgarity, blasphemy and poor taste to see how far they can go. With Family guy it was the Jew episode that got them canceled the first time, with South Park it was the Bloody Mary episode that Comedy Central backed down over and promised not to rerun. The Simpsons, with their annual Christmas episodes, would never stoop so low, so help me Jebus.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:47 a.m. CST

    The Intarweb assplodes

    by Banky the Hack

    This episode is going to draw the most internet geek blood since the "Mechwarrior vs. Voltron" flamewars of `98.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:52 a.m. CST

    That really is a kick in the balls.

    by DigitalDong

    Its like comparing crack to cocaine. Sure they're made out the same stuff, but one has that extra kick that makes you come back for more.

  • April 5, 2006, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park...all make me laugh

    by Jon E Cin

    Bring on more I say!! MORE!

  • April 5, 2006, 7:23 a.m. CST


    by TempusFugitive

    Absolutely right, Jon E Cin. All these sad twats who feel the need to "pick" a fav'rit show, and then downplay everything else can go fuck themselves. Oh, and Girth, you're going to laugh your dick? wha-huh?

  • April 5, 2006, 7:38 a.m. CST


    by Kung Fu Hustler

    If by timeless you mean dated by all the pop culture references, then yes, it is timeless.

  • April 5, 2006, 7:39 a.m. CST

    I'm just so glad there's a talkback on this...

    by DanielKurland

    This episode is going to be fantastic. I wonder since they're dealing with the topic of "cancellation" if Futurama will be addressed at all. It's nice to go into the episode knowing that Matt and Trey's opinion on South Park is not good natured.

  • April 5, 2006, 7:54 a.m. CST

    It's got to be a joke.

    by SpikeTBB

    Tonight may be one of the exceptions, but Kyle and Stan usually voice the opinion of Matt and Trey. While Cartman's actions and words parody and serve as examples of assholes. Even if he does some things we sometimes wish we could get away with, but know better. The fact that Kyle likes Family Guy and Cartman hates it seems to be a recommendation of the show, not a condemnation. But I haven

  • April 5, 2006, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Are Who's the Boss jokes timeless?

    by Big Bad Clone

    The answer: Of course they are.

  • April 5, 2006, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Family Guy Timeless?

    by tripp5

    I like FG and all, but its about as "Timeless" as milk sitting in the desert sun

  • April 5, 2006, 8:24 a.m. CST

    All the shows are funny

    by chrth

    Even Simpsons, while still not as good as the golden years, has gotten better this season. And yes Drawn Together is funny too. There, I said it. BTW, does ATHF count in this discussion? They're funny.

  • April 5, 2006, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Family Guy did not steal from The Simpsons.......

    by Mr. Profit

    They actually stole from "The Critic". The Simpson's is a classic show. I get upset when they (Simpson's Writers) start bitching about FG when again the show they have produced since I was in the 3rd grad is A CLASSIC. Sure the quality and rhythm is off now. And I can see they now have out of nowhere jokes like FG. But again FG didn't steal their format. The quick sight gags used on Family Guy were on "The Critic" 1st. Even "Arrested Development" had the same format. So they stole from The Simpson's too? "COME ON!" But It doesn't matter. Family Guy is a funny show despite what haters think. And SP has no business making fun of them because South Park is only sometimes funny. And on top of that, that's only the 1st time you watch an episode of SP. Upon repeat viewing's, their new episodes don't hold up once the initial shock is gone. Being shocking is not being funny. And they shock more than entertain. Family Guy is not always hilarious, but tell me that you didn't rewind your DVR when Peter was forced to perform the song "Milkshake" in prison.

  • April 5, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    SOUTH PARK Vs. FAMILY GUY? The horror, the horror...

    by SpyGuy

    As some have said, SOUTH PARK, FAMILY GUY and THE SIMPSONS are all great to watch in their own way. FAMILY GUY has the edge THE SIMPSONS lost, but has anyone else noticed that the past few episodes of THE SIMPSONS have actually been funny? In about ten years, though, after the FCC has gutted anything edgy and innovative off television, SOUTH PARK will be the series you miss the most. At least I will.

  • April 5, 2006, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Norman Mailer said it best:

    by fiester

    "You know you're the lead dog when the other dogs start snapping at your backside."

  • April 5, 2006, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Family Guy and South Park

    by nalapou

    Are the best to cartoons there are right now, F*ck Drawn Together, F*ck Justice League, Futurama doesn't even deserve to be mentioned on this board, The Simpsons, well still funny, pales in comparison to these 2 shows. This has the potential to be the greatest South Park ever. And that is saying A LOT. AWESOME-O, The Death of Eric Cartman, Marjorine, Cartman Joins NAMBLA, Casa Bonita, Asspen, Scott Tenorman Must Die... Does it get better? No.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:10 a.m. CST

    I was really talking about the "Remember the time"

    by Mr. Profit

    Scenes that flash back to something silly. "The Critic" is the one cartoon I remember doing that often (Easter Island students with the big heads, "I own you! You're Mine! NO WIRE HANGERS!" "This is a test of Faye Dunaway's Vocal Chords- Waaaaaail!"), even more than "The Simpson's" did. The Simpson's was mainly straight story with funny shit happening. And again, The Simpson's was a brilliant show. I still laugh at "Doctor Zayas, Doctor Zayas!" But I also laugh a lot at FG and their retarded cut aways. "I gave the job to Soundwave!"

  • April 5, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Seth said it best

    by Toby O Notoby

    Living the the ass end of the world where I haven't seen any of thses shows in years, I don't personally feel qualified to comment. But I think Seth McFarland kind of nailed it when he was interviewed about an episode of the Simpsons wher Homer is cloned and one of the clones happens to be Peter McGriffin. Can't find the actual quote but it was something to the effect of: "We make fun of just about everything under the sun. So to get upset about people making fun of us seems incredibly thin skinned." Same thing goes for Scientology (I won't say Issac because it's still not clear if he made the comments): If you laugh when they make fun of Christianity, Islam, Morons, Jews and Meninites you damn well better laugh when they make fun of you.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Here's the simple goddamn facts...

    by genro

    McFarlane got his balls sued off for stealing Stewie from a comic strip - appearance, character - whole fucking deal. That alone proves the guy is a thief. Matt and Trey made their shit from scratch.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:17 a.m. CST


    by Andsoitis

    It's awesome that lines have to be drawn in the sand and one must choose one show then forsake all others. I watch all three and laugh at all three. I think South Park does things that SNL wishes they could do. I think the Simpsons (through season 6) has multiple layers of humor that have to be picked at. I find that when I watch the Family Guy though, I have more thoughts like "Yeah, I saw revenge of the nerds." It's more about the show winking and the audience getting references...which is fine. I take solace in knowing that I wasn't the only one who completely soaked up bad 80's pop-culture. I do think that it's awesome that the show shells out all the money for music clearances, that crap has to cost them quite a bit. But I'm of the mind set where I laugh more at things like ATHF, Sealab 2021 and Harvey Birdman. I'm kinda screwed in the head that way.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:21 a.m. CST

    LordEnigma & All the Parker/Stone bashers...

    by genro

    Have a beef with them for their politics, nothing more. Just read this thread. It's gotta suck to want to watch a show and realize you're probably going to get slapped around in the process. Boo-Hoo. As for who's actually talented - McFarlane's ass was only saved by DVD, not his ratings.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:26 a.m. CST

    A Few Bottom Lines

    by Alex Childress

    1. Simpson's is classic, a bit past its prime (I'll let you determine the length of a bit), and still worthy of a chuckle here and there; 2. Family Guy has never passed itself off as anything but ribald wit mixed with tasteless humor. 3. South Park has moments of hilarity that are truly fantastic (the Lord of the Rings videotape episode should be a Criterion release in and of itself) and moments of stupidity not worth being seen by human eyes again (a talking piece of feces as a character is sub-sophmoric, and, frankly, just plain disgusting). 4. Matt Groening isn't going to let his cash cow go without beating it into bloody, exhausted, emaciated death and beyond; 5. Seth McFarlane has a skewed hit-or-miss comedic style that leaves him looking like either a comedic genius, or the most unfunny bastard since Ray-Jay Johnson (see? stole that from Simpsons = classic); 6. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are pretentious fucks who enjoy dishing out criticism, attacks, and insults and cannot take even the slightest little bit of it in return without behaving as if they had been called some combination of a racist slur and an Anti-Semetic sentiment. Those are your bottom lines.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:32 a.m. CST

    about bottom line #4

    by Andsoitis

    I think the Simpsons has less to do with Matt Groening, and more to do with James L Brooks. I think Matt Groening, probably makes money from the show, but from what I understand James L Brooks is the Larry David to Matt's Jerry Seinfeld.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:35 a.m. CST

    And so it is...

    by Alex Childress

    No, I wasn't saying your name. I was agreeing with you ;p

  • April 5, 2006, 9:37 a.m. CST

    One thing about Family Guy....

    by Mr. Profit

    I find that if you were born in the very late 80's and 90's, many won't get any of the references on the show. Sometimes my 19 year old brother looks at the screen like "What?" all confused until I explain it to him.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:39 a.m. CST

    another thing about family guy

    by Andsoitis

    Based on what profit said: My cousin (13) asked me about the song on family guy that was about "Lobsters." He thought it was completely rediculous and ultimately that the writers of the show wrote it. I felt really old....

  • April 5, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST

    My problem with Family Guy isn't the pop culture.

    by Chastain-86

    It's a couple of things, not least of which was referenced earlier by another TBer. It's become patently obvious that the show has become little more than a series of vignettes stitched together by the barest framework of a plot. Whereas older FG episodes tended to hang their plot on classic rehashed sitcom formulae (Peter gets a new job, Peter's boss comes home for dinner, Peter and his estranged dad have a reconciliation), newer episodes have nothing resembling a plot whatsoever. I'm not saying I don't laugh occasionally, because I do -- but the lack of a cohesive plot structure IS pretty glaring, and on the whole takes away from each episode. Seth should watch more of his other baby, American Dad, and script accordingly. Every FG character has become little more than their patented "catch-phrase" and that's disappointing to me.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Am I allowed to like all three?

    by I Dunno

    They all have their strong and weak points but they all have somehting in common. They're all better than any live action comedy show out now. As for Family Guy not being as dated as South Park, well that depends. Is humor that is sometimes topical to our time but mostly about universal themes going to be more dated that a string of 80's pop culture references? I dont't know. But who cares? Being dated is always a bad thing. You wouldn't criticize All in the Family for bieng dated. Probably because most of you never heard of it.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:53 a.m. CST

    I get the sense that Family Guy is running out of gas

    by I Dunno

    though, already. There are no more actual stories and they're digging at the bottom of the barrel with the 80's references. They might have to move to the 90's. And for God's sakes, more Quagmire! They don't use him enough.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:53 a.m. CST

    "Isaac hayes has every right to make up his own mind"

    by Spike Fett

    I agree... too bad he's been FUCKING BRAINWASHED.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Family Guy isn't a rip off of The Simpsons...

    by Kirk's Toupee

    or The Critic. Its actually a rip off of a 70's cartoon called "Wait Till Your Father Gets Home".

  • April 5, 2006, 10:02 a.m. CST

    "Isaac hayes has every right ..." Part Deux

    by TempusFugitive

    Even if we put aside the brainwashing aspect, and assume that he came to his decision of his own free will after careful contemplation. <snicker> He absolutely has the right to do whatever he wishes. And Matt, Trey, and anyone else has the right to call him on the hypocritical statements made on his behalf. To happily make your $$$ by participating in a show that makes fun of anything/everything in sight, and then cry foul when something you believe in is poked at is your right. It&#39;s also blatant hypocracy, period.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Wait till your father gets home

    by TempusFugitive

    Ack... thanks for the involuntary flashback there. Yikes.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Well of course Isaac Hayes has the right.

    by I Dunno

    Did anyone dispute that? Did they try to sue him or something? He and his handlers are allowed to say what they want and Trey and Matt are allowed to respond. I thought the response was a bit over the top but it&#39;s their choice.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:08 a.m. CST

    who cares

    by ZO

    if they hate family guy? as long as this show keeps getting better i could give a rats

  • April 5, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST

    This whole one has to be better than the other thing..

    by trojanwilliams getting ridiculous. Every frickin&#39; talkback dissolves into one of these discussions. Is Star Wars better than LOTR, is Arrested Development better than Sons and Daughters, is CSI better than CSI: Miami. When did it become impossible to like both (except for the CSI part - just not my cup of tea)? When did that happen? Did I just not get the fanboy memo? I think both shows do great work and thought the Simpsons have fallen off in the past few years the first 10 years contained episodes that would, by any standard, be considered classic television. South Park has also contained it&#39;s fair share of duds to date but also included some really classic episodes. Family has not returned to the levels it had attained pre-hiatus but it also has it&#39;s fair share of great gags (and that is what it is a gag sitcom). McFarlane just needs to work on putting a whole episode together that works (I blame American dad for spreding him too thin - you&#39;re not David E. Kelley, Seth cut American Dad loose - the characters just aren&#39;t interesting or funny).

  • April 5, 2006, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Most everything from Williams St. is poo...

    by Billyeveryteen

    ATHF, Squidbillies, that mouse show, Tom goes to the mayor, ick. Thank you Simpsons, for making animated comedy what it is today. IMHO South Park > Family Guy, and Futurama rules all. ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD!!!

  • April 5, 2006, 10:17 a.m. CST

    "Isaac Hayes didn&#39;t bash Matt and trey publicly."

    by beefywhore

    Right...thats because Isaac Hayes doesn&#39;t have a public forum of his own to bash back...he had access to one but he crossed the people who were in charge of that forum... Let this be a lesson to you, kids (I&#39;m looking in your direction Rcamacho2278) Don&#39;t FUCK with people who have the power to openly mock you publicly when you have no access to that Kind of Herc, looking good...have you lost weight?

  • April 5, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    and The Flintstones came from The Honeymooners so...

    by half vader

  • April 5, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Calling someone a bigot sounds like bashing to me

    by I Dunno

    Sounds like Hayes threw the first punch.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:25 a.m. CST


    by half vader

    Sorry. Wrong button. So my question is what was The Honeymooners based on? Some radio play? No there&#39;s nothing new in the world. But I sure love The Simpsons. And even if Family Guy is any good (the stuff I&#39;ve seen was woeful but I haven&#39;t seen enough to orm a proper opinion), the character of Stewie (and the dog, for that matter) is a one-show joke, at best.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Is CSI better than CSI: Miami?

    by TempusFugitive

    Yes. It is. Period. End of discussion. Well, almost the end... David Caruso on CSI: Miami might be, perhaps, the worst actor I&#39;ve ever seen on a successful primetime show. Scary shit, eh kids? Oh, and bust on the Squidbillies all you like, but Aqua Teen Hunger Force is one of the funniest things on TV, dammit!

  • April 5, 2006, 10:29 a.m. CST

    The simpsons V Family Guy

    by emeraldboy

    Groening has a patholical hatred for family guy after all its about a family who watch a lot of tv and Peter Griffin does like to go fishing and drinks with his buddies from the factory where he works as incompetent supervisor, the only main difference Btween the simpson and the family guy is that the griffins have martini swilling talking dog and a baby intent on worldwide domination. I dont think Groening likes the satrical humour of south park or Family guy. There is none of family guys/south park style in Futurama at all and I have seen alot of that. Futurama is a show that I founf very hard to get into for some reason.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:33 a.m. CST

    The bbc did the right thing when they bought FG and AD

    by emeraldboy

    Buried them in th graveyard slot. I saw one episode of American Dad and went to bed. I havent bothered to watch it since.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:35 a.m. CST

    As much as i think Family Guy is a crap show...

    by PushTheButton

    It seems dumb to reward it with a whole episode plot. Is it really that important to talk about? The show sucks, change the channel. Done. I don&#39;t understand this "Why does everybody hate Family Guy?" line in the ad. Nobody outside of the internet and high school homerooms give two shits about discussing Family Guy. So far, this season of South Park is feeling too self-centered and alienated.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST

    good god you fucking cynics...

    by Jewish_Batman

    the simpsons is legendary, family guy is hilarious and didn&#39;t "just copy the simpsons", and south park is well written and outrageous. can people not like all of them? is that a crime? and yes... futurama is fucking unbelievable.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST

    My favorite Fox Cartoon is the one with the overweight.

    by modlight

    Dad, the out of touch housewife, the misbehaving underacheiving, slightly stupid but ultimately well meaning son, the nerdy daughter, and the cute baby who may be the cleverest one of the bunch. You know the ones that live in that small town, but not so small that it can&#39;t act as a microcosm for American Life. You know which one I&#39;m talking about right. I can&#39;t remember exactly what its called... But it was a really grounbreaking show about a Guy and his Family. Oh yeah and if it helps they were all Yellow.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Look none of this changes the fact ...

    by chrth

    That Jack has some serious problems to deal with next week.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Why FG&#39;s 80s references don&#39;t work.

    by PushTheButton

    There is one simple reason - they aren&#39;t worked into the show at all. It&#39;s just a carbon copy of Rock Lobster, Take on Me, or The Blues Bros. Meanwhile a show like The Simpsons takes a reference like.. Full Metal jacket, and changes all the symbols and characters around to work it into the episode&#39;s plot so that someone who hasn&#39;t seen the movie isn&#39;t distracted; and those who have get the wink. Parody isn&#39;t "HAY REMEMBER THIS!?" it&#39;s subtlety and/or getting creative with the source material.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Oh come on now

    by chrth

    The "Take on me" sketch was hilarious. "Chris where were you?" "I DON&#39;T KNOW!"

  • April 5, 2006, 11 a.m. CST

    ACTUALLY, Family Guy did rip off the simpsons

    by Mr. N

    Now, I think Family Guy does have some redeeming uniquely funny moments, but some elements and plots are lifted straight out (dog getting another dog pregnant, homer and peter&#39;s &#39;vision quest.&#39; And South Park is brilliant satire. But to each his own, but if you say that family guy is better than the simpsons of old, that may be partially true but just because of it&#39;s shock value. That&#39;s all family guy has going for it now. South Park mixes shock value with satirical wit and thus equalling the best writing on television.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I actually watch Boondocks moreso than any of them

    by Terry_1978

    That&#39;s probably an acquired taste, but when the jabs at pop culture are dead on, they&#39;re dead on.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Family Guy is WITTY not FUNNY...

    by Bones

    American Dad is the same show as Family Guy -- only without the pop culture references. And you can see just how funny that steaming pile of cartoon poo is. South Park doesn&#39;t interest me as much, but whenever I do catch an episode, it is usually very funny...without the needless padding Family Guy does with it&#39;s SNL inspired jokes-that-go-on-for-too-long. South Park is not quite as witty as Family Guy, Family Guy not quite as direct or funny -- but when you take them on their own merits, they are equally enjoyable. One thing that is annoying about both Family Guy and South Park is this whole generation of fans who do not know where the references in Family Guy (or S.P.) come from and then credit that show for being brilliant, when they are aping someone else. Now we can all reference them. Giggity-Giggity, You Bastards!

  • April 5, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I&#39;ll say this much about Family Guy

    by modlight

    It can have very very funny moments scattered here and there, but I hate all the characters. Not in the they&#39;re poorly written, they are just unlikable. That is what keeps me from watching whole episodes and definitely keeps me from watching shows over and over again as I have with the simpson.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Family Guy will age like SNL.

    by Childe Roland

    Seriously. It&#39;s got the same impact. Certain bits are hilarious. Others aren&#39;t People won&#39;t remember whole episodes (and really don&#39;t now) but, rather, favorite "skits." And in that, I think it&#39;s a fantastic show. It&#39;s animated variety comedy rather than the live stuff (which hasn&#39;t been as consistently good lately). The best episodes of The Simpsons are remembered as episodes (Bart&#39;s Crush on his Babysitter being my personal favorite and packing the most punch per minute of any non-Halloween eppy in the series&#39; entire run). South Park is much more like vintage Simpsons in that it&#39;s plot driven (lately the Simpsons seem to be floundering for a new, more Family Guy-like scattershot formula, but they just don&#39;t do it as well...possibly because they won&#39;t go for the easy gross out or shock moment when one is needed). South Park&#39;s problem is that it tends to think too much of its own potential power and influence. Early seasons used the "moral of the story" jokingly, almost as an excuse for the sheer absurdity that had come before. More recent seasons have taken that "we have to teach a lesson and make a point" bullshit way too seriously. The best episodes in recent seasons include the Scott Tenorman and Japanime Warriors episodes. Those were absurdly funny and pretty timeless, yet also succeeded in being far more relevant and insightful than any of their more "politically charged" shows. As for not liking Matt&#39;s and Trey&#39;s politics, they don&#39;t have any to speak of. They cherry pick issues and make fun of whoever seems to be making the least sense on those topics. And usually I will agree with the viewpoints being expressed by their cartoon counterparts (Stan and Kyle), but when the shows are more about those "hot button" issues than they are about making us laugh at the absurdities common to people of all political and religous persuasions, I just don&#39;t find them anywhere near as entertaining. I think both South Park and the Simpsons have kind of lost their way, the former trying to be more than it is and the latter trying to be less. So When I want a guaranteed laugh at something downright stupid funny, I&#39;ll usually watch Family Guy.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST

    South Park attacks real issues. Family Guy just sucks.

    by BilboRing

    As crude as they are, South Park best lets these morons running the country know whats up. Scientology, gay rights, hybrids, etc. Just rocks. Family Guy is just a more extreme Simpsons. But the Simpsons attack social issues better. At least they used to.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST

    I agree Push the Button....

    by vinceklortho

    on Family Guy&#39;s parodies. But, I also agree with chrth on when Chris said that hilarious line. So, it&#39;s a weird paradox for me when it comes to Family Guy. I hate how blatantly simplistic they are with their parodies that they copy the exact same thing, but then they get out of that and add a hilarious line such as "Where am I?" So, all in all, Family Guy is a funny ass show, but it just lacks in substance compared to South Park or Simpsons. Family Guy seems like the funny ass adult cartoon show for people with ADD..which isn&#39;t necessarily a bad thing. Oh, and if Simpsons, to you, is just simply a show that copied family sitcom cliches, then have succeeded. Their idea was to do that and completely twist that on its head. Which they succeeded trememdously at doing.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:13 a.m. CST

    South Park peaked with the movie.

    by Mr. Profit

  • April 5, 2006, 11:13 a.m. CST

    I am glad others have also mentioned..

    by Bones

    The difference between satire and parody. Simpsons, Futurama, South Park and sometimes King of the Hill are great satires, occasionally mixing parodies into the mix. All of those shows will also go for more emotional episodes, mixing darker emotions with their humor. Hell, they can be downright moving sometimes. Family Guy ... not so much. Family Guy is all about jokes, whether they work or not.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Come to think of it.........

    by vinceklortho

    South Park&#39;s episode tonight is probably simply lampooning this talkback right;s kind of ridiculous how split everyone is on Family Guy, much like Cartman and Kyle will be. So, what does that say about South Park?

  • April 5, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Right On chrth

    by Oozer3993

    Jack is gonna go through some serious shit next week. But he&#39;s J F&#39;n B so of course he&#39;ll come out on top. Oh, and I love South Park and Family Guy. Never did see Simpsons in its prime, so I can&#39;t comment on that, though.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Man, interesting TalkBack

    by Ribbons

    "Simpsons mocked Family Guy? How dare that shitty, has-been show even STEP to Family Guy! South Park mocks Family Guy? This is gonna be the best episode EVAR!!!11" The one "knock" against "Family Guy" that I saw on "The Simpsons" was where, through a visual joke, it was implied that Peter was a Homer clone. Outrageous! Yet not totally untrue.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Remember back around Season 9 of the Simpsons

    by speed

    when everybody was complaining about how the show needed reworking and changing? Well it was. It&#39;s called Family Guy. It&#39;s pretty much Simpsons on speed. I can&#39;t see how simpsons fans can&#39;t not like family guy. I love em both along with SP.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:34 a.m. CST

    The Simpsons Is an Animated Sitcom...

    by Brock Samson

    Family Guy is just a cartoon. Allow me to elaborate. Before "The Simpsons" stopped being consistantly awesome, which happened anywhere betweem 1998 and 2002, depending on who you ask, the show was really a true animated sitcom. It dealt with real issues, and family problems and concerns. Homer was stupid, but he was a truly fleshed out, lovable character. He loved his wife, and Marge&#39;s love for him made sense, because Homer tried. All of the kids were fleshed out as well. Family Guy, on the other hand, has always been just a cartoon. Peter and Lois as a couple never made sense, Peter is an unredeemable idiot, and their children are pretty much cardboard, especially since the show came back. The only one with any personality was Stewie, and the show still can&#39;t decide what, exactly, to do with him. The other kids are one-note jokes. Quagmire is a sexual deviant, etc, etc. There&#39;s no substance to the characters. Which is ok if all you do are "remember when" jokes. But even though I won&#39;t watch the Simpsons anymore because I find it too painful, Family Guy will never be what the Simpsons was, because they are fundamentally different shows. And if I could have back one season of classic-style 3-7th season Simpsons, I&#39;d be a happy man. Because those shows STILL rock. Will Fmaily Guy references still be funny in 5 years? I doubt it.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:47 a.m. CST

    "Family Guy firing back at South Park"

    by Shermdawg

    I doubt it will happen in 2006, and if it does, it will be late, late, this year. Those episodes take forever to do, since they are animated overseas. "Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow!..."

  • April 5, 2006, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by CynicKil

    within it&#39;s five year run, was the most evolved animated series ever created. I also love The Boondocks because it was made with black people in mind. I just hope that&#39;s the audience.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:48 a.m. CST

    I liked every one of these shows at some point

    by Doom II

    It goes in phases. I haven&#39;t watched a complete South Park in 3 years, but started again with the Return Of Chef episode. I used to looo9ove The Simpsons, but just flip right past it these days. Family Guy is hit and miss. When it hits, it is the funniest shit on tv. When it misses, it really sucks. All the mentioned shows have had a very healthy run overall and will be in syndication for the rest of our lives. Family Guy is the newborn of the bunch with only 4 seasons so far. Anyone else catch the Peter and Lois cameos in Drawn Together a few weeks back? Same animation and actual character voices. Funny stuff.

  • April 5, 2006, noon CST

    Hands down, SOUTH PARK

    by hktelemacher

    is fucking fantastic. It&#39;s become so good over the last four years - I can&#39;t even watch the early ones. Trey Parker is the premiere social satirist working in comedy today - he has a way of spinning all this shit to the highest degree of scathingly exposed hilarity. South Park isn&#39;t just funny now, it&#39;s important. I feel like it&#39;s the only comedy show actually saying something about the culture we live in. Topical, relevant, hilarious. The Kenny/Teri Schiavo episode that aired the night she passed away is a prime example of why South Park is important - it goes places with brains, balls and morals that Family Guy goes to simply to be edgy or crass. I like Family Guy (although it hasn&#39;t been the same since it&#39;s resurrection, and the "movie" proved mediocre) but South Park is the bees knees and is the best it&#39;s ever been.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:01 p.m. CST

    South Park? yawn

    by Spice-Orange

    South Park used to be good. what happened? trey and stone seem to get caught up with lame current events these days. it used to be funny, but now its like a bad leno sketch or some cartoon you see on SNL. Yeah, i get it, scientogly is stupid. move on! *yawn* America! Fuck Ya!

  • April 5, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST

    With Family Guy You Remeber The Jokes But

    by flamingrunt

    with the simpsons you remember the episodes. In that everyone loves the chicken fight or the take on me skit, but does anyone actually have a favourite episode of family guy? While you watch the simpsons for the plot and jokes, not just for sideshow Bob walking into 9 rakes

  • April 5, 2006, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I could post something in this thread...

    by Banky the Hack

    But I&#39;d just be repeating Brock Samson. And not only did he post it first, but he has a cooler screen ID than I do...neon nuclear buddha, I can&#39;t wait Venture Brothers season 2.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Daria WAS good!

    by Spice-Orange

    i miss it. *tear*

  • April 5, 2006, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Family Guy NO point

    by Rex Manning

    Simpsons obviously handles the off tangent jokes weaved into a story line brilliantly. King Of The Hill excels at realistic, deadpan humour and South Park are the kings of satire and anarchy. Family Guy has no reason to live.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Wait til you father gets home

    by jsm1978

    Saw someone mention that show... that was a funny show. With his survivalist/gun nut neighbor, and Don Adams recurring as a bumbling lawyer...

  • April 5, 2006, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I hate Family Guy, LOVE South Park

    by El Scorcho

    I hope Matt and Trey rip that fucking show a new one.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:13 p.m. CST

    If you haven&#39;t watched a complete South Park in 3 years

    by FluffyUnbound

    You missed: Die Hippie Die, The Losing Edge, The Death of Eric Cartman, Ginger Kids, Trapped in the Closet, Good Times With Weapons, Douche and Turd, Pre-School, Quest For Ratings, Woodland Critter Christmas, Cancelled, Krazy Krippies, Fat Butt and Pancake Head, Christian Rock Hard, Grey Dawn, Casa Bonita, All About The Mormons, and It&#39;s Christmas In Canada. In other words, some of the greatest television of all time.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Hayes needs to make a public statement

    by mascan

    and stop letting people argue about which of them is really speaking for him. As of 2 weeks before his stroke, he had no problem with the Trapped in the Closet episode and said so in a radio interview.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Well, no matter, I enjoy them all, but.....

    by vinceklortho

    I do have to say that these first two episodes of South Park this season have been hilarious. Pretty impressive after a couple of seasons already. I am eagerly awaiting tonights episode, especially after a fresh new Lost.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:32 p.m. CST

    SOUTH PARK&#39;s political satire is funny, but that&#39;s it.

    by Darth Bauer

    The show isn&#39;t "funny" anymore. It&#39;s really run out of steam. BUT so has The Simpsons, and I would bet it will happen to Family Guy too. The "Smug" stuff was funny, but I couldn&#39;t tell you the last ep that wasn&#39;t political satire that was funny. Maybe something in Season 6 when it peaked.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:48 p.m. CST

    I know Simpsons writers hate the Family Guy crew...

    by Russman

    And I heard the little digs that South Park and The Simpsons made toward each other were all in fun. But do Matt & Trey not like Family Guy? What&#39;s going on?

  • April 5, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Hit or Miss

    by TempusFugitive

    All of these shows have been hit or miss in my mind. Some episodes of each I find myself thinking, meh. But then other episodes make me laugh my ass off. Frankly, the success rate is high enough that I want them all to keep going, if only to offset some of the truly awful 1/2 hour comedies out there. I&#39;m looking at you, According to Faith... errr, Hope and Grace? Will and Jim? Whatever, you all suck!

  • April 5, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    i love South Park, but Family Guy makes me laugh more

    by Fearsme

    i think the shots taken by Simpsons (2 at my count) and South Park are reflections of the fact that the show right now is more popular than these older, ane past their prime animated series.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Family Guy is...

    by PushTheButton - the series. Most of it is just retelling jokes. It&#39;s good for a quick laugh. It has fleeting moments of genius hilarity... Take if for what it is. If you like it, that doesn&#39;t make you an idiot or anything. I don&#39;t like it. I don&#39;t think it&#39;s good tv, but I don&#39;t shit all over someone else&#39;s party. It appears this is what South Park is doing. If you wanna take a jab at FG, fine. Simpsons has done it a handful of times, but then again thats what The Simpsons is for, making fun of everything. They throw a jab, but never waste an entire program on such trivial things. This South Park episode is looking to be less of a jab, but more of an unnecessary "pwn". We&#39;ll find out what the real agenda is soon enough.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:10 p.m. CST

    fuck yeah SpikeTBB

    by JGHG

    i totally agree with Spike, i can just see Trey and Matt laughing their asses off over how everyone will begin freaking out over the "fight" between two very funny shows, and that just makes it even funnier, the fact that they very well could have expected everyone to start taking sides on something as stupid as cartoon loyalty.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I can enjoy both...

    by ejcarter9

    ...and that makes me better than you.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST

    A spirited American Dad defense by chrth

    by chrth

    I don&#39;t think there&#39;s been a single positive word in this thread about American Dad, so I&#39;m going to weigh in. I have started to really like American Dad. Yes, the first few episodes were pretty weak, but I feel that the show has gotten better over time. It still hasn&#39;t reached FG or Simpsons levels--not by a longshot--but it has started having more and more funny moments (amazingly enough, Klaus has really stepped up --- his "DVD Commentary" shtick was hilarious). So I&#39;m hoping it carries on, because I think it&#39;s starting to hit its stride. Also, I really want to see the continuing story of Roger&#39;s excrement.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Family Guy sucks.

    by DarthCorleone

    There&#39;s a difference between pop culture cannibalism and pop culture homage. Family Guy is cannibalism. When I see its innumerable references (without which the program would be virtually devoid of content) that mimic the source without any sort of creativity beyond the "novelty" of "hey, look, our characters are acting out a scene from this movie!", I wonder why I&#39;m not simply watching the source again. For a simple telling example, compare the closing of that Family Guy episode where they escape from South America (a Raiders parody that seems to think it deserves credit simply because the writers have watched Raiders) with the opening of the brilliant "Bart&#39;s Friend Falls In Love." Light-years of difference.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:27 p.m. CST

    I think it&#39;s funny that modlight chose to weigh in

    by chrth

    When he&#39;s apparently watched neither show.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    "Isaac hayes has every right...

    by smackfu

    including god given to make up his own mind about where he belongs in life" - some guy Yes, he does, just as we have the God given right to laugh our asses off when those decisions are batshit crazy.

  • April 5, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST


    by TempusFugitive

    I&#39;ve gone almost an entire week without saying that Scientologists are a bunch of barking loonies! Well... it&#39;s true, they are!

  • April 5, 2006, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Let me set the record straight: I thought the cop...

    by Russman

    was a prostitute. Simpsons have had some great episodes. Classic!

  • April 5, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    id agree family guys parodies have become obvious

    by flamingrunt

    and weak. Instead of using obscure and cool references that populated seasons 1-3. season 4s relied to heavily on "do you remember when..." then inserting characters into a movie scene. 8 perfect seasons of the simpsons is unheard of in animation or sitcoms. but it shows weak character to ride on family guy when the simpsons quality has diminished so badly

  • April 5, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    South Park = Classic, Family Guy = Rip Off

    by jimmy_009

  • April 5, 2006, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Family Guy is a clone of the Simpsons...

    by Meremoth

    Maybe, but it&#39;s irrelevant. Why? Because the Simpsons do not have a Stewie like character, at least to my knowledge. Stewie is perhaps the most enjoyable character on that show, followed by Brian. Without Stewie that show would suck. In fact Stewie is more of a rip off of Brain from the Animaniacs than anything else.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:02 p.m. CST

    "Isaac hayes has every right . . ."

    by Ban This User

    Yeah, seriously, from where do people come up with this crap? There is no right, God given or otherwise, to be free from mocking. Isaac Hayes can believe anything he wants, and people can mock him for it. If he doesn&#39;t like it, well, life is tough.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    The MAIN reason I hate Family Guy...

    by El Scorcho

    I think the show sucks, but it only angers me because certain people talk about it as if it&#39;s the second coming or something. Some people in this talkback have made some great points about WHY it sucks, and I agree wholeheartedly. South Park is great because it is all about the characters. Seriously, with the collection of characters Matt and Trey have produced, they could make ANY plotline work. I also love that they are not afraid to shit all over liberal idiocy, and not always jump on the "bashing conservatives" bandwagon like everyone else. Family Guy is lame in every definition of the word, and the fact that anyone hails Seth "Hack" MacFarlane as genius is a crime against humanity. The guy is a lucky motherfucker with a stupid audience. The fact that South Park is all out attacking them tonight (mark my words, a PA on said that tonight&#39;s episode is causing him to "obtain an unlisted phone number and move to a safe house") is not just trivial. It needs to be done because Family Guy only encourages more shitty television.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:07 p.m. CST

    to Genro re: Stewie being ripped off from Chris Ware

    by Bryan

    Don&#39;t get me wrong, I fucking *despise* Family Guy. But your facts there are a little wrong. The comic strip you are referring to is Chris Ware&#39;s Acme Novelty Library, the absolutely brilliant comic book published by Fantagraphics for many years (and as of the last issue self-published by Ware). Stewie indeed looks like a very poorly drawn rendition of the character Jimmy Corrigan, Smartest Kid On Earth. But it&#39;s not fair to say that the character is copied, because it&#39;s not. Jimmy is sometimes portrayed as a child inventor, but is not evil or wacky or bent on world domination. And in fact, the vast majority of Jimmy Corrigan stories take place when he is a timid old man. When Family Guy was pretty new Chris Ware was quoted somewhere about it because he was upset that people thought his life&#39;s work was a ripoff of a shitty new cartoon on TV. However, I don&#39;t believe he ever sued anybody over it (I tried to look it up on Wikipedia but it&#39;s not loading right now). You&#39;re probably thinking of a lawsuit around the same time where one of McFarlane&#39;s professors was suing for allegedly naming the family after his family. I know it&#39;s not a big deal and that Stewie&#39;s design may in fact have been consciously copied from Jimmy Corrigan. But I hate to see the two lumped together because Acme Novelty Library is the opposite of Family Guy in pretty much every way possible. It&#39;s not about jokes or quips - most of the humor is because it&#39;s so sad that you have to laugh. It does not have pop culture references, unless you count allusions to &#39;30s comic books and ragtime music. It takes its sweet time telling a story (the Jimmy Corrigan storyline spread out over about 7 or 8 years if I remember right). And most of all Ware is a fanatical perfectionist when it comes to artwork. The stories are filled with a ridiculous amount of detail and historical architecture, and most issues also come with cut-outs and instructions to build working mechanical models of Ware&#39;s own design. It&#39;s easy to see why Ware would be upset to be associated with a show designed by people who don&#39;t know how to draw. But I think you&#39;re doing the same thing by claiming that Stewie is so similar to Jimmy Corrigan.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST

    South Park Owns

    by Incrediburgible

    I never liked Family Guy. This Simpsons is just a restaraunt in a good location at this point (i.e. it can continue successfully without trying). But South Park still makes me laugh out loud. If anything it gets better over time. When Chef died (impaled, dismembered, half-eatend, etc.) and the boys were all "Are you sure he&#39;s dead?" and the shit came exploding out of his ass, and Cartman said, "Yeah, he&#39;s dead." (referring to the Wal-Mart episode and his contention that a person shits themself at the moment of death). Well......... that was brilliant and shows balls. Stone and Parker have great big shiny fucking balls attached to their chins and they&#39;re not afraid to waggle them around. Fucking A.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST

    FG is the literal definition of guilty pleasure for me

    by Freakemovie

    Because I&#39;ve laughed out loud at every episode at least once. But it&#39;s really not all that good. You could say that anything that gets you to laugh is funny no matter what, and I&#39;d agree. But I would also point out that the jokes are recycled, they overuse the "repeat one line for five minutes" so much it makes me want to throw up, and their "commentary" (which luckily they don&#39;t try that often) is just plain terrible: basically them telling us repeatedly that anyone that believes in any religion in the world is an utter moron. It&#39;s gotten pretty annoying.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    What&#39;s the point of attacking Family Guy?

    by Craiggers

    It&#39;s a funny show. It&#39;s neither better or worse than the Simpsons OR South Park. It&#39;s a completely different style of comedy. Simpsons is, if anything, is for the more brainy. South Park, while occasionally having something to say, is still basically dick and fart jokes (not to mention the novelty of kids cursing). So yeah, Family Guy IS constantly making pop culture references, but it does it well. The show never made itself out to be superior to either Simpsons or South Park. Hell, I&#39;m sure Seth would admit that both shows were a heavy inspiration but that doesn&#39;t mean he ripped them off or set out to destroy them. All shows need to realize that animated prime time is hard enough as it is without taking each other down a peg or two.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST

    After reading the plot synopsis...

    by PushTheButton

    ...on, I&#39;m pretty sure this episode will more be about the pointless fighting between cartoon geeks than why Family Guy sucks.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m sorry, guys...

    by Childe Roland

    ...but none of these shows were the second coming of anything. Well, maybe Simpsons was the second coming of Flintstones and South Park was the second coming of Peanuts and Family Guy was the second coming of Wait &#39;til Your Father... but that&#39;s really not what someone above insinuated with his criticism of folks holding Family Guy in some sort of religous reverence. The only animated show I&#39;ve ever seen anyone do that with is the Simpsons, back when I was in college, and those people were higher than a motherfuck most of every day, so I wouldn&#39;t exactly weight their tastes too heavily. What we&#39;re talking about here are three shows that were each, in their primes, very funny and consistently entertaining TV. Simpsons&#39; prime lasted longer than South Park&#39;s, although neither of those shows really hit their strides until season 2. Family Guy was funny as hell out of the gate and decidedly different from the Simpsons at the time (on purpose...why would anyone think we needed two Simpsons?). And while it may have desensitized some viewers with constant bombardment, it hasn&#39;t changed its formula much. And it&#39;s got a pretty avid fan following of its own that will insist this first season back is as good as anything that came before it (I can&#39;t say that until the season&#39;s over and I get to tally up the jokes that worked against the ones that didn&#39;t on a per-episode shit, that&#39;s how I roll). What scares me are some of these people calling South Park important. If that&#39;s the point (and maybe it is, what with the complete lack of subtlety in addressing social and political issues that the show has embraced since the movie came out), then Matt and Trey might need to point their fickle fingers away from that bazd old hypocrite, Isaac Hayes, and right up each other&#39;s asses. Because after years of mocking celebrities (liberal AND conservative) with heavy-handed social and political agendas, they&#39;ve apparently become what they despise. And how would that be any less hypocritical than what they&#39;re accusing Chef of? Personally I&#39;d rather think thy&#39;re just getting creatively tired and can&#39;t come up with subtle ways of addressing socio-political issues anymore (like they did with the brilliant ending to "Good Times With Weapons"). One of the funniest recent episodes of South Park was the one where the boys freak out about the girls having a device that predicts the future. And that was pretty fucking low key, politically. Also included a Family Guy-esque rip on the pop-culturre touchstone Pet Semetary. Come to think of it, wasn&#39;t Die Hippie Die just a riff on The Core? Let&#39;s not look at our own favorite children too closely from this class, as we might find they&#39;re all in need of some special ed and/or disciplinary measures for plagiarizing each other&#39;s schticks.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Brodester? Are you kidding?

    by Incrediburgible

    The Virgin Mary bleeding out of her ass??? Helloo????? Cripple fight???? Hellooooo?????? Having an unsympathetic crippled character (Jimmy) is some kind of master stroke. I love Jimmy AND Timmy. Mrs. Chokesondick? Hellooo?????????????

  • April 5, 2006, 3:07 p.m. CST

    See? I proved my point.

    by Incrediburgible

    South Park IS better than Family Guy!! So THERE!!!!

  • April 5, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Boondocks baby

    by Cepper

    Glad to see Boondocks getting some love in this Talkback. It is off to a stronger 1st season start than any of the animated shows above. At its best it is as hard-hitting as your average South Park. (Though nothing is as good right now as South Park at its best.) It&#39;s just that Boondocks is not getting nearly the attention it deserves. Anyone see last week&#39;s rapper&#39;s duel between "Ganstalicous" and "Eat Dirt"? Do yourself a favor and set your Tivo&#39;s now if you haven&#39;t seen it yet. And I haven&#39;t even seen the notorious Martin Luther King episode yet! And yes, I am a spoiled white boy from the suburbs who has no business finding black culture satire as funny as I do.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    ...ironic, considering this TalkBack.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Guys! Let&#39;s not fight. Instead. . .

    by ZeroCorpse

    Let&#39;s build a snowman! We can make him our best friend. We can name him Tom or we can name him George! We can make him tall, or we can make him not so tall. Snowman! He&#39;ll have a happy face, a happy smile, a happy point of view. If you build me a snowman, then I&#39;ll build one for you. So, let&#39;s build a snowman! We can make him our best friend. We can name him Bob or we can name him Beowulf! We can make him tall, or we can make him not so tall. Snowman! He&#39;ll have a happy face, a happy smile, a happy point of view. If you build me a snowman, then I&#39;ll build one for you. Snowman! Snowman! Snowman!

  • April 5, 2006, 3:36 p.m. CST

    South Park is the suckiest cartoon out there.

    by Proman1984

    This show should have been canceled five years ago. Family Guy is a lot better.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by isildur29

    saying south park doesn&#39;t test censorship is the dumbest thing that has been said in this talkback all day

  • April 5, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST

    reminds me of the time that peter auditioned for E.T.

    by slappy jones

    cut to shot of peter with a glowing finger sitting in the basket of elliots bike..... and that would be about it...they don&#39;t actually parady or "spoof" anything..they juts mention some pop culture icon and cut to an animated version of it but generally there is no joke..their whole joke and punchline normally consists of just reminding us of something from the 80&#39;s.....they don&#39;t do anything remotely clever with it....if anyone thinks that family guy is smarter than simpsons or south park they are nuts...south park is going through some kind of rebirth at the moment and it is as good as it has ever for simpsons...sure people think it&#39;s tailed off in quality the past few years but lets see how fresh family guy is come season 16....i like all 3 of them..... but family park is by far the lesser of the 3.....well this new season sucks anyway.....the best mocking of family guy is the simpsons cloning episode where there is a whole field of cloned homers and smack in the middle is one peter griffin..that was funny....

  • April 5, 2006, 3:48 p.m. CST

    And just to add fuel to the fire...

    by Childe Roland

    ...(to melt that snowman) I don&#39;t think any of the three shows being compared in this talkback are the best comedic animated fare for adults out there right now. Venture Brothers is much funnier to me as a former comic-book and Saturday morning cartoon junkie. In fact, a good chunk of Adult Swim appeals to me for the same reason, with Aqua Teen Hunger Force probably being the most consistently funny cartoon on the air since Sealab lost Captain Murphy and went off. Harvey Birdman is pretty good as well. Futurama took the slow ramp to funny, but once it got up to speed it was pretty hilarious. Glad to see that getting another shot in some format. And the thoroughly weird Perfect Hair Forever really started to grow on me. I&#39;d watch new episodes of any of these shows over any new episodes of the Simpsons or South Park. Probably even Family Guy, depending on my mood.

  • April 5, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST


    by beefywhore

    I&#39;m scared of the snowman...

  • April 5, 2006, 4 p.m. CST

    Brodester- while I love Family Guy...

    by Lone Fox

    ... Your comment regarding &#39;testing censorship&#39; is so badly backed up. With reference to a violent scene, and fat jokes. As with South Park, FG has broached (breached?) many no-go&#39;s: race, paedophilia, sexism, the disabled, drug abuse, alcoholism... But yeh, they &#39;tested censorship&#39; with some violence... Uh, Itchy & Scratchy were decapitating each other YEARS earlier! And El Scorcho- the FG cast are just as well defined (if not more so) as South Park. Christ, hats off to Macfarlane for making a black supporting character dull as hell. Now THAT&#39;S confronting entertainment stereotypes!

  • April 5, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m Still Waiting...

    by Jonas Grumpy

    ...for new episodes of "Fish Police." John Ritter&#39;s BEST WORK EVER!

  • April 5, 2006, 4:03 p.m. CST

    If you can&#39;t see that....

    by screamster

    South Park is the funniest show on TV, then you can bend over and smell your own farts.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Argumentative geeks drive me crazy.

    by deadgirldown

    That&#39;s all we&#39;re askin&#39; for! That&#39;s all we&#39;re askin&#39; for! We&#39;re tired of being sick. We&#39;re sick of being poor! We&#39;ve had a little luck, now we want a little more. A girl I can love! A church! A ranch! A store. That&#39;s all we&#39;re askin&#39;. That&#39;s all we&#39;re askin&#39; for.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:22 p.m. CST


    by Harry Weinstein

    SIMPSONS vs FAMILY GUY vs SOUTH PARK - zzzzzz. How many years have they all been co-existing now? All three are funny, in different ways, for different reasons. BOONDOCKS is great, but uneven - still, it&#39;s much stronger than I&#39;d expect for a first season show, and when it works, which is pretty often, it works really well. I look forward to it really hitting its stride in the seasons to come.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s all moot anyay.

    by PushTheButton

    I&#39;m a hardcore Simpsons fan, even today, but Venture Bros has been the best toon on TV the past 2 years.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST

    holy shit, South Park just won a peabody award!

    by inkymae

    for excellence in broadcast television! As much as I love the show, this could truly be a sign of the apocalypse.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST


    by zbbrox

    1: The first decade or so of The Simpsons is the greatest comedy television that has ever been produced, and the last seven years don&#39;t change that. Family Guy and South Park don&#39;t come close to that shit, not by a mile. 2: Family Guy has done some of the drop-dead funniest stuff on television. However, it&#39;s the TV equivalent of cotton candy. It&#39;s insubstantial entertainment, and that&#39;s fine, but it&#39;s not greatness. 3: South Park is hit and miss, but they&#39;re hit and miss because they swing for the goddamn fences.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    inkymae you said it!!

    by StudioPlant69

    Comedy Central&#39;s "South Park" won its first Peabody Award on Wednesday, winning praise from judges as TV&#39;s boldest, most politically incorrect satirical series. Also Battlestar Galactica and the Shield won too! Oh and Tom Cruise said his dad was a bully! Maybe his did just had too many thetans...? GFY

  • April 5, 2006, 4:30 p.m. CST

    spellcheck dammit! I suck!

    by StudioPlant69

    Damn you Tom Cruise&#39;s dad! You dead SOB! gfy

  • April 5, 2006, 4:37 p.m. CST

    SOUTH PARK Has Been Pretty Terrible Lately

    by ZombieSolutions

    last season was awful. this season has been &#39;meh" so far (although DARTH CHEF was great!). i don&#39;t know what happened to the show, but it&#39;s gone down hill pretty fast. i think the shark may have been jumped.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Simpsons V...

    by Larry of Arabia

    Why do these shows have to compete? They are all very differant. It&#39;s like saying Lost is like the X-Files. Sure the medium is the same but the message and style vary. And finaly, my own Simpsons Did it moment: the repeating jokes on The Family Guy, like when peter falls, hurts his knee, and says "ow" over and over following the theory of diminishing and increasing immediately repeted joke returns was done to prefection when Sideshow Bob stepped on a rake... and another... and another, for a good 2 minutes.

  • April 5, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    They&#39;re JUST NOT FUNNY

    by Maniaq

    Look I have a very simple yardstick when it comes to comedies - DOES IT MAKE ME LAUGH? The Simpsons hasn&#39;t for years. Futurama does occasionally. South Park hasn&#39;t made me laugh since Towelie - those guys have seriously LOST IT! They&#39;re just not funny anymore. Seriously! (pun intended) Team America SUCKED BADLY! Not even a snigger... I think Trey and Matt have become too caught up in their whole social commentary trip and just plain FORGOT TO MAKE IT FUNNY... American Dad has NEVER made me laugh - but, despite all the previously mentioned drawbacks to the show, I just can&#39;t help but laugh at least once EVERY episode of Family Guy I watch. Sometimes only once, just one gag in the whole show - but that&#39;s more than I get out of South Park... I&#39;ll still watch ALL of these shows coz I&#39;m one of those sad bastards who will even watch a Star Trek episode, even tho I know it&#39;s gonna be shit, but I just *HOPE* that SOMEHOW I might just be entertained after all - and of course get to the end totally disappointed. Same goes for South Park. And Simpsons. American Dad I can do without...

  • April 5, 2006, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Different Strokes

    by MC Liver

    It&#39;s so bizarre to see so many people put these shows in competition, just because they are animated. No one in their right mind would compare three shows that were so completely different if they were live action. The Simpsons is the MOR, traditional family sitcom, Family Guy is more deliberately surreal and adult, while South Park is closer to political and social satire than anything else. Would you want to compare Everybody Loves Raymond, Scrubs and The Daily Show?

  • April 5, 2006, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser!....

    by Shermdawg

    Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow...Annoying ain&#39;t it?

  • April 5, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    "Wait Till Your Father Gets Home"

    by Flim Springfield

    I saw this mentioned early in the thread: Thank you! For years I thought I was crazy because I seemed to be the only person I knew who remembered that show! It took a long time before I started to see any mention of it on the internet, though there are a few sites now.

  • April 5, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    That&#39;s right! You read it here first folks!

  • April 5, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Did I really type "bazd" Ibiu2?

    by Childe Roland

    Man, I must just be losing it. Anyway, Maniaq makes a good, if embarrassing point as well. I also watch all these shows, even though South Park rarely gives me joy anymore and The Simpsons hasn&#39;t been anything but background noise for nigh on seven seasons. Hell...I even went to see the last two Star Wars prequels after the first one pretty much cemented my opinion that George had lost it. I&#39;m such a creature of habit. I agree with a lot of what zb.brox typed, but I don&#39;t know if I could just hand the Simpsons that crown. Top ten greatest TV comedies for sure. But what about Cheers? What about Seinfeld? Sure, Simpsons seasons 2-10 can run with that heat...but I don&#39;t know that it leaves them panting. And PushTheButton, if you dig on Venture Bros. like I do, how do you feel about the Aqua Teens? Not the same thing, but in the same league of funny imho.

  • April 5, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Yeah, the Simpsons did rip on Family guy 1st

    by Shaz_bot80

    It was a halloween episode where Homer clones himself. In with the clones is Peter Griffin, thusly making the statement that Peter is just a rip-off of Homer.

  • April 5, 2006, 5:50 p.m. CST

    love both shows, so STFU Trey and Matt

    by VoodooV

    get over yourselves, they should have swallowed their pride for ten seconds and said thank you to whoever compared them to Family Guy and moved on. If they think they&#39;re so much better than Family guy..then fine..make SP better and not make bitch comments like they did. Both shows are great, deal with it.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Why can&#39;t we love them all??? huh? huh?

    by Thumper2k1

    Well I&#39;ll tell you why. Because the Family Guy sucks, The Simpsons (which used to be a classic) sucks, and South Park is taking the long walk of shame to suckyville. So the real question is why do you love any of them? Why must you support things that are no longer funny?

  • April 5, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST


    by ILK

    The FCC are pussy whats?

  • April 5, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST


    by PushTheButton

    I can&#39;t say I&#39;m a fan of Aqua Teen. I put it in the same league as family guy. If you like it, fine. But i think it&#39;s a bunch of crap just thrown together. Honestly, the whole Williams Street clan struck gold with Space Ghost, and since then has repackaged the same program over and over (Aqua Teen, Sealab, Birdman). I can&#39;t see how they keep getting away with it. It took me nearly a year to warm to Venture Bros actually, because I was expecting to be burned like the rest of Adult Swim&#39;s "flash animation" style of cartooning (sans Boondocks). But I was put in my place and now have a Best Buy gift card stored away just for the VB dvd whenever that may come out.

  • April 5, 2006, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Family Guy eats dick

    by teedadawg

    It&#39;s the BEST example of the WORST kind of hey-watch-this-I&#39;m-a-giggle-whore humor that is rotting mainstream comedy right now. There are differences between a funny premise, a funny scene and a funny story. FG seems to get stuck on the funny premise (like modern-day SNL) and never follows through. Seth McFarlane is the anti-Carlin!!!

  • April 5, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    One More Bottom Line...

    by Alex Childress

    In terms of topical content, The Boondocks has more, more fascinating, and more intelligent things to say than any single or collective episodes of South Park. As hilarious as it is though, it needs to bring the funny a little harder and with more consistency.

  • April 5, 2006, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Venture Bro. is the shit..

    by Billyeveryteen

    But it ain&#39;t made by Williams st. Nothing good comes from there.

  • April 5, 2006, 7:50 p.m. CST

    where&#39;s kevin smith when you need him?

    by vicious_bastard

  • April 5, 2006, 8:30 p.m. CST

    I goddamn love American Dad...

    by The Wrong Guy

    It&#39;s become one of the funniest animated shows on television. FG I can do without, and SP is all kinds of awesome. The last shot in that episode where they tried to free the killer whale had me not being able to breathe for a minute. BEST. PAYOFF. EVER.

  • April 5, 2006, 8:43 p.m. CST

    I love how Im always behind

    by Lovecraftfan

    South Park has been terrible really cause I thought Scientology epsiode was hysterical including many others. I just watched season 7 on DVD and it wa s brilliant. I have no idea why you guys think South Park is getting terrible.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:04 p.m. CST


    by ftmigs

    a riot to open the show. word.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:08 p.m. CST


    by chrth

    If we&#39;re still alive in the morning, we&#39;ll know we&#39;re not dead!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    They&#39;re talking about themselves!!!

    by chrth


  • April 5, 2006, 9:12 p.m. CST


    by clockpolitiks

    Seriously, its not even good writing. GENIOUS

  • April 5, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    OMG, I&#39;m near tears here

    by chrth

    They&#39;re attacking comedy central by proxy .... this is awesome ....

  • April 5, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST


    by ftmigs

    i wonder what his motivation is. Also, dig on the self-awareness of the south park writers.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    This is actually kind of shitty to watch.

    by AngelCordy

    Like, Matt and Trey are seriously making fun of "Family Guy" because they&#39;re insulted someone grouped them in with it? Are you kidding me? That&#39;s the DUMBEST thing I&#39;ve ever heard. This just proves that they&#39;re whiny little self-righteous stuck up pricks. Way to go, guys. I thought you cracked on stuff because you thought it was important to be talked about, but it&#39;s really because you think you&#39;re better than him. Assholes.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Al Queda: "Family Guy isn&#39;t even that well written"

    by UndercoverCop

    "The gags are interchangable and not even related to the plot".

  • April 5, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Dude, they&#39;re not making fun of it

    by chrth

    Pay attention to what they&#39;re talking about--they&#39;re accusing Family Guy of everything they do. As a bonus, they&#39;re making fun of the whole Muslim cartoon controversy. Plus, riots!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:16 p.m. CST

    family guy

    by ftmigs

    I hope they aren&#39;t serious with their ripping on the show . that is a bit self-rightous.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:16 p.m. CST

    by Jubs

    "MATT AND TREY ARE FREAKIN&#39; GENIUSES!" Bingo. Just switch out: Muslims for Scientologists. Fox for Comedy Central. Family Guy for South Park. They&#39;re addressing the whole censoring/not airing of a cartoon cuz it might be "offensive." Matt and Trey, you&#39;ve done it again you clever sons of bitches.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:17 p.m. CST

    When you put it that way...

    by AngelCordy

    I can see it. It&#39;s still kind of stupid.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Ok, what is the deal with Cartman and Kyle

    by chrth

    Are they riffing something I&#39;m not catching? Oh, and I can&#39;t wait for the other shoe to drop with Cartman.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:18 p.m. CST

    the episode pretty lame

    by v1cious

    it just isn&#39;t very funny

  • April 5, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST

    grouped together

    by ftmigs

    hahaha. word.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Make up your mind.

    by UndercoverCop

    Show&#39;s VERY self aware. It&#39;s obvious they are accusing Family Guy of everything they do themselves. In effect they are defending the right of satirist cartoons. At the same time, they are ragging on Family Guy by saying it&#39;s badly done.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    "It&#39;s exactly what happened to Laverne and Shirley"

    by chrth

    "You should like that show" "Don&#39;t you ever compare me to Family Guy!" OMG, this is the best episode in years.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:22 p.m. CST

    "I am nothing like Family Guy"

    by UndercoverCop

    That seals it.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Remember who&#39;s talking, though

    by chrth

    Can we really take Cartman as a proxy here?

  • April 5, 2006, 9:23 p.m. CST


    by ftmigs

    so cartmans alterior motive was hating being grouped with family guy.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Cartman = Matt and Trey in this case

    by Terry_1978

    People always say he&#39;s their polar opposite, but he is their voice on occasion.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Guys, they&#39;re making fun of people who argue about

    by FluffyUnbound

    whether Family Guy is good or not. It seems pretty obvious. Cartman is always the mouthpiece for the a-hole point of view. Having Cartman go off about how much better "his" humor is than Family Guy&#39;s is Matt and Trey making fun of PEOPLE LIKE US for bitching at each other about the two shows.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Big Wheel chase = BRILLIANT!

    by Kung Fu Hustler

    I love this show!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:28 p.m. CST

    I don&#39;t buy that Cartman is proxy here

    by chrth

    but we&#39;ll see. Also, was that Dr. Pepper product placement?

  • April 5, 2006, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Wow, Family Guy is really getting cornholed

    by I Dunno

    At first I thought it wasn&#39;t even about FG as much as the Cartoon Jihad thing but, damn. The fake Family Guy clips they showed were funnier than half the real ones.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    "or will comedy central puss out"

    by keyserSOZE

    outstanding, guys

  • April 5, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST


    by Kung Fu Hustler

    Fuck the haters!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Or will Comedy Central Puss Out?

    by werttrew

    Man, what a great season so far.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    FAMILY GUY is going to MURDER these guys...

    by UndercoverCop

    If next week&#39;s episode turns out like this one.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST


    by ftmigs

    they could&#39;ve easily ended this issue within the confines of one show.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Man, they lead you right into Mind of Mencia

    by I Dunno

    faster than you can find the remote. Damn you, CC.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST


    by Hercules


  • April 5, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Will Comedy Central puss out?

    by chrth

    OMG, they&#39;re going to show Family Guy showing Mohammed?!?

  • April 5, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    family guy = better than south park

    by digital8

  • April 5, 2006, 9:33 p.m. CST

    God, do you really think there will be a part two??!!

    by Kung Fu Hustler

    Think people!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Matt, Trey...

    by Larry of Arabia

    After this next episode, please, please, PLEASE get over it. The only thing worse than an unfunny satire is one that can&#39;t get over itself. Keep taking shots now and then, but stop basing whole episodes on this. If you don&#39;t people won&#39;t take you seriously as a satire any more.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Kung Fu Hustler - they have to have a second episode...

    by UndercoverCop

    To make up one for this lame one.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    That&#39;s the beauty of "satire", FluffyUnbound

    by I Dunno

    They can say that what Cartman said was just Cartman doing his Cartman thing but they still got the message out, didn&#39;t they? And they&#39;ll do some "I learned something today" ending that tries to even out the previous hour but it&#39;s like the last 30 minutes of Goodfellas when everyone gets it. It&#39;s an afterthought to all the fun that was previous.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    What I can&#39;t figure out is...

    by Gigi3

    If SP is talking about the Scientology ep being pulled, or the Bloody Mary episode being pulled? Although its brilliant either way, and they&#39;re addressing the Muslim cartoon too. Riots! OMG "or will Comedy Central puss out?"- that says it all.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    KFH brings up a good point

    by chrth

    But I think there has to be a part two. Of course, if Asses of Fire 3 airs in the interim, I&#39;ll understand.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    ...and no, of course there won&#39;t be a second part

    by I Dunno

  • April 5, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Another "Cartman&#39;s Dad" cliffhanger?

    by George Newman

    I don&#39;t know,, but I do want to see more southpark versions of Family Guy. those were hilarious, and they actually reached out to find other voice talent than their own.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Gigi3, my guess is the Catholic one

    by chrth

    And see, that&#39;s why I don&#39;t think Cartman is speaking for Matt and Trey. His whole "if they pull this one, then someone else will complain" speech was basically an assault on the Catholic League, but also at the Scientologists.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST

    I think that Matt and Trey are trying to end South Park

    by Lance Turk

    Surely they knew coming into this episode that they shared a lot of the same audience as Family Guy. It even sounded like half of their staff watches the show from the sound of this episode. Why alienate a good chunk of your audience? And something else that got me was the ending with Comedy Central pussing out. Sure they deserve that slap in the face; but at the same time, do you really want to bite the hand that feeds you... or in this case, keeps you on the air? I just get the distinct feeling like Matt and Trey want to go out with a bang. And this may be the wind up to that moment.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Dont Puss Out Comedy Central!

    by dancinggopher01

    Please don&#39;t puss out.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:42 p.m. CST

    If you don&#39;t think they were ripping on Family Guy...

    by JohnGalt2006

    then YOU are the one with your head in the sand. Family Guy is a terrible, terrible show and Matt & Trey found the perfect way to nail their shitty ass style of humor without coming off as complete assholes. The tricycle chase was an absolute classic--A JOKE THAT DEVELOPED OUT OF THE STORY--and a perfect example of what FG is completely INCAPABLE of. Brilliant episode.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Lance Turk

    by Kung Fu Hustler

    Do you think Matt and Trey are given "the keys" to the Comedy Central signal? That this show just aired without CC knowing of that ending?

  • April 5, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST

    See, JohnGalt2006, I think you&#39;re wrong

    by chrth

    I think they figured that people would like you would feel all self-satisfied about it, justifying existing opinion, etc. But I can&#39;t imagine Trey and Matt would stoop to preaching to the choir.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    There&#39;s another important thing we&#39;re all missing

    by chrth

    Butters&#39; father had a great speech, but ... he&#39;s Butters&#39; father! We&#39;ve seen what he&#39;s capable of! How can we take him seriously?

  • April 5, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Thank you JohnGalt!!!

    by Kung Fu Hustler

    Based on these talkbacks, I&#39;m beginning to see why Family Guy is so popular. Some people just can&#39;t appreciate real, not cheap, character-based humor. Of course SP goes for the cheap laugh, but that is never their sole source of humor, unlike FG. "This reminds me of that time I tried out for Hasselhoff&#39;s car..." LOL!!!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:47 p.m. CST

    KFH, hurry up

    by chrth

    Before you miss the pretentious snob bus! It&#39;s leaving! Run for it!

  • April 5, 2006, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by Kung Fu Hustler

    I understand where you&#39;re coming from. I&#39;m sure there is something I like that a group of people look down upon. But I just can&#39;t stand FG and I think a lot of people missed the point of this episode.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:50 p.m. CST

    The Modern World can bite my splintery wooden ass!

    by chrth

    Of course, Futurama is better than both shows, as the current episode airing on Toon proves.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:51 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s not over...

    by ChrisPC24

    I think there might be some big witty twist next week. If not, Matt and Trey are just taking cheap shots at FG. I suppose no one got the "head in the sand" reference, either. As for Isaac Hayes, I heard him on the radio last week when I went through Memphis. His speech is slurred a bit. If he still did Chef, it would sound strange now.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:53 p.m. CST

    There&#39;s no second part, guys

    by I Dunno

    There&#39;s nothing more they wanted to say. Next week a repeat or a different episode will inevitably air and everyone will freak out and they will laugh and laugh... But not Seth McFarland, he&#39;ll already be dead by his own hand. I&#39;m kidding. I like Family Guy too but they did just get ass reamed tonight. And it&#39;s not like the FG folks have the talent to strike back.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:53 p.m. CST


    by VoodooV

    the bigwheel chase was hilarious...but otherwise, its the same ole SP we&#39;ve seen before. I am totally on their side but they really need to move on...the gag is old

  • April 5, 2006, 9:54 p.m. CST

    "delivering pancakes to the captain"

    by George Newman

    Why is Steve Martin getting another Mark Twain award? This is retarded. What did he give us in the past five years? Oh, that&#39;s right Cheaper by the Dozen, Bringing Down the House, Pink Panther, and of course, Cheaper by the Dozen 2. Thank you so much for your comedic contributions to today. That clip of him and Gilda Radner was exemplary of his current genius.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:55 p.m. CST

    "Remember that time we were lampooned on South Park?"

    by JohnGalt2006

    That&#39;s about all the bite the FG writers will be able to muster.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    I Dunno, I dunno

    by chrth

    Why leave the whole "secret truth about the FG writers" thing open-ended? Granted, the length of the preview for next week makes me think it won&#39;t happen ... but still ...

  • April 5, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Family Guy should actually redo all of those fake jokes

    by George Newman

    it would show class and that they can take a joke.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Talkback is drunk

    by chrth

  • April 5, 2006, 9:57 p.m. CST

    I&#39;d wish FG guys would strike back...

    by torpor_haze

    whether or not if it would be a good comeback...I don&#39;t know..I just wanna see it.

  • April 5, 2006, 9:59 p.m. CST

    I Can See It Now

    by dancinggopher01

    Special Report on CNN, talking about how South Park is going to do this huge depiction of Muhammad, and half the world tunes in, and BAM----Terrance and Phillip Take Manhattan.

  • April 5, 2006, 10 p.m. CST

    Funny ep

    by Richard Cranium

    I enjoy Family Guy, but I laughed my ass off at the fake FG clips. Great stuff. Also, the &#39;head in the sand bit&#39; was great, because that&#39;s exactly what the American media did when they all refused to even show the Muhammed cartoons to see what all the fuss was about, and then they threw in shots at their own network for bowing to outside pressure. The person that said they&#39;re trying to end the show, I don&#39;t know if I&#39;d go that far, but it&#39;s clear that they have &#39;fuck you money&#39; at this point, and they&#39;re going to just keep pushing the envelope as far as they can. And I think it&#39;s 50/50 if they actually even intend to have a part 2. I wouldn&#39;t be a bit surprised if that was just a throwaway gag at the end.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:01 p.m. CST

    FG shouldn&#39;t strike back

    by chrth

    This is where the Simpsons went wrong (although they did it in the past with the gravestones of other animated shows): Number one should never mention number two, while number two should attack number one constantly (Coke never mentions Pepsi in its ads, and Bud rarely mentions Miller, and when it does, it&#39;s a serious misstep--Miller and Pepsi mention Bud and Coke constantly). Family guy has higher ratings than South Park (mostly because of the fact that SP is cable and FG is network), and therefore should just ignore it.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:04 p.m. CST

    B. Rubble, call me dammit

    by chrth

    Harvey Birdman is on!

  • April 5, 2006, 10:04 p.m. CST

    The best joke of all is...

    by JohnGalt2006

    SOUTH PARK actually did depict Mohammed in an episode, way back before anyone cared about this bullshit, in the "Super Best Friends" episode where Jesus, Mohammed, Joseph Smith, Buddha, etc. all formed a sort of superhero lead (with Moses waiting in the wings).

  • April 5, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Where were the jokes?

    by Max Meanie

    I like Family Guy for pure humor while South Park USED to have a message embedded within jokes. I don&#39;t care if they trash Family Guy as long as it&#39;s funny...but it wasn&#39;t. What the hell happened?!? These past shows have been kinda weak. The Chef episode was plain mean-spirited and the hybrid-car show had 1 joke (fart-smelling). I think the unfocused & unfunny Team America broke Trey & Matt. Perhaps there&#39;s some Butters episodes coming up that will save the season.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Wait, Muhammed was a member of the Super Best Friends?

    by chrth

    Why don&#39;t I remember that? Of course, I do remember: "Moses, how do we stop a giant stone Abe Lincoln?" "Uh ... giant stone John Wilkes Booth?"

  • April 5, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST


    by GaiustheBrave

    Isn&#39;t that what Xander says in "Once More With Feeling" when he learns everyone else had sung the previous night, as well? Family Guy may cheap laughs, but they&#39;re laughs; somewhere in between laughing at the Simpsons, and laughing at your aunt when she trips on a chair. You&#39;ll shake your head, but you&#39;ll laugh at least a little. And, remember, that is the point of comedy, to laugh.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Laugh at FG?

    by JohnGalt2006

    I think attacking the TV with a baseball bat is a far more sensible response.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:27 p.m. CST

    South Park is funny, but preachy

    by Terry_1978

    Call me the lowest common denominator if you must, but I don&#39;t watch cartoons to learn life lessons. While the townspeople don&#39;t always learn their lesson at the end, there&#39;s always some underlying moral point Stone and Parker are always trying to get across in each episode, and it has become a parody unto itself.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Why do people here like South Park???

    by HermansHead

    The only thing motivating South Park is anti-intellectual resentment at people who have a sense of style. Instead of being creative, they just take some current event (or when they can&#39;t think of that, something as old as Family Guy, evidently) and act all ridiclous in a random fashion. It is more or less like taping the New York Times on your wall, and then throwing your own feces at it. If your show could easily be written by a retarded 7 year old with Tourette&#39;s, then YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    You know this is just the beginning of a Cartoon WAR!

    by Novaman5000

    Family guy will strike back. Of this I am convinced. Should make for a bit of interesting television. And wait, maybe I&#39;m an idiot, but was the "head in the sand" thing trying to say that Family Guy is everywhere/overexposed? I liked Cartman&#39;s speech about getting mad when people assumed he liked it. Also, I can&#39;t shake the feeling that we&#39;re never going to see part 2 of this episode. Another trick by M and T.

  • April 5, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    FG and SP can coexist!

    by Novaman5000

    Both are really funny in different ways. The apocalypse FG ep is on where Peter is trying to feed Tom Selleck through the television. It&#39;s ridiculous, but it makes me laugh every time. "NO, Higgins!! This is Tom Selleck&#39;s food!"

  • April 5, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    You guys forget or haven&#39;t seen Cartman&#39;s Real Dad

    by I Dunno

    The only other &#39;two part episode&#39;. The guys actually got death threats over that.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:02 p.m. CST

    If that&#39;s all you get from it, HermansHead

    by I Dunno

    Are 7 year olds cursing then I don&#39;t know, watch FG.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:05 p.m. CST

    SP had other 2 parters...Need I remind you of

    by Novaman5000

    "Do the handicapped go to hell?" and it&#39;s 2nd part: "Probably".

  • April 5, 2006, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Since South Park&#39;s been syndicated, I stopped . . .

    by pewterschmidt

    ... watching Simpsons reruns that are broadcast at the same time slot in my area. &#39;Course, I&#39;ve seen the Simpsons reruns about a hundred times. BTW, am I trippin&#39; or did I hear several unbleeped &#39;fuck&#39;s during South Park -- on broadcast tv?

  • April 5, 2006, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Short, sweet, and to the point

    by herbshwartz

    This was billed as a war between cartoons. I think that the major issue they were trying to address is, when the chips are down, most people will fold their values - like freedom of speech if actual violence is threatened. Tonight&#39;s episode of South Park is on it&#39;s way to concede, that Family Guy has every right to exist. Some of the SP gang like Family Guy, some don&#39;t. The point is that there is a particular segment of the population who will, when faced with the slightest bit of trouble, will forgoe their basic human rights - including freedom of speech. I get it, Trey and Matt(And Seth) - And i will never literally, or figuratively, bury my head in the sand.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Both SP and FG have to deal with censorship.

    by Novaman5000

    Herb, right on about the point of the ep tonight. I see them arriving at a happy medium next week.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:18 p.m. CST

    herbshwartz - nice explanation

    by Max Meanie

    When you put it that way, it makes a lot of sense. Now if only it was a funny episode...

  • April 5, 2006, 11:19 p.m. CST

    I guess I forgot that one, Novaman5000

    by I Dunno

    but I still stand by my point that there won&#39;t be a second part.

  • April 5, 2006, 11:32 p.m. CST

    SP just said F you to CC

    by JarJarIsVader

    Thats what the whole show was about. Fuck you to Comedy Central for bowing down to Tom and not airing the scientology ep. again. Hence the last line of the show, "...or will Comedy Central puss out!?" We all know the answer to that one, CC is a bunch of pussies. Oh and CC really pussed out when it came to Dave Chappele telling them not to air the lost ep or he wont come back. Fuck him.

  • April 6, 2006, midnight CST

    Max - You&#39;re right

    by herbshwartz

    The show wasn&#39;t that funny. But, the issue of being able to draw cararictures of famous people is probably near and dear to the South Park creators. Parody is the essence to much of these animated shows that we all love. Lets go back to the subject matter that they are commenting on - that a cartoon of Muhammed caused certain people to lose their shit. I think that Southpark are the first people urging people to not be afraid. Even where I live, a newspaper decided to run the cartoons. They recieved huge critisism - but stood by their mandate to report the truth. I will get off my soapbox and relate one last item. When I was in Grade 8 I drew a awesome carraciture of my math teacher hitting a kid on the head with a ruler. He thought it was hilarious

  • April 6, 2006, 12:37 a.m. CST

    South Park just DOMINATED Family Guy!!!

    by zillabeast

    And fucking Family Guy deserved every bit of it. Bunch of hacks!

  • April 6, 2006, 1:24 a.m. CST

    South Park has

    by Dr Bad

    levels baby. Gigi3 asked "If SP is talking about the Scientology ep being pulled, or the Bloody Mary episode being pulled?" Both baby. Just when you think Matt and Trey are going off on a moralistic tangent they model yet another Hollywood blockbuster, or have one of the kids switch allegiences at the last minute. I&#39;m looking for a flaw in the armor, but I laughed too hard tonight - heads in the sand but asses in the air, biting the hand that feeds them while devouring FOX, Cartman as both shill and mouthpiece. This level of self-awareness is almost frightening.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Family Guy has declined, this episode not too good

    by wingman321

    I haven&#39;t liked Family Guy since they;s all the same reoccuring jokes and pop-culture references, something that&#39;s better left to the internet (like YTMND). As for this episode of South Park, it was a let-down. Poorly edited with not many jokes, I&#39;m kinda sick of them tackling all these recent news stories.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:30 a.m. CST


    by Vance Castaway

    ... have I encountered such irony in my life, as when viewing this episode, and then coming here to read the comments about it. I haven&#39;t posted on this site in at least 5 years. Wake up everybody. This is all really happening. Get your head out of the sand.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:37 a.m. CST


    by Tvknowitall

    Bottom Line, The Simpsons and South Park are right wing shows and Family Guy is written by a liberal. That&#39;s why the first two make me laugh, and the 3rd pisses me off.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:44 a.m. CST

    I think SOUTH PARK and SIMPSONS have every right to...

    by scrooged

    diss FAMILY GUY for being hacks, even though i think FG is hilarious. Because I just to think about SMALLVILLE and see just how desperate some producres and writers are sometimes. However if you think about it, all three shows deserve the 30 mins a week compared to every lame sitcom that is on TV.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Man, Matt and Trey really gave it to Comedy Central!

    by Shermdawg

    It was like...Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow...

  • April 6, 2006, 2:23 a.m. CST


    by ninjatracksuit

    And I&#39;m certain this was covered up above somewhere - but you remember specific South Park episodes, while you only remember specific Family Guy jokes (then remember you heard those same jokes, or a form of them, five years ago on another show)...Family Guy makes me smile from time to time, but it&#39;s utterly disposable, as self referential as the Kill Bill movies...South Park - like The Simpsons or Futurama or any good animation on tv right now - works the episode around an idea, then riffs on that...South Park works in particular because those guys just DON&#39;T GIVE A FUCK...Anyone that thinks they&#39;re getting preachy has obviously missed the couple dozen or so times they&#39;ve made fun of themselves...Throwing everything at you including the kitchen sink (like Family Guy does) wears thin pretty quickly and eventually starts taking the audience for a bunch of fools - appealing to the lowest common denominator is funny (it&#39;s primal), but not 100% of the time...

  • April 6, 2006, 2:24 a.m. CST

    all the Family Guy hate...

    by stalfos

    Never heard so much Family Guy hate until a popular TV show said it first...I wonder if Family Guy was to strike against SP first, would the same people be on their side?

  • April 6, 2006, 2:27 a.m. CST


    by Napoleon Park

    The Simpsons took the first shot at Family Guy with "Send in the Clones" and the field of Homer clones that included the original design from the Ullman show and Peter Griffin. FG retaliated with a Police Squad credit sequence parody that ended with Stewie running over Homer in a Simpsons opening credit parody and Peter saying "Who the Hell is that?", like his son kills paople and they leave dead bodies in the garage all the time. The last show was on the Simpsons, when they looked through an Italian mug book of known criminals that identified Griffin as "El Plaigerismo" and Smith from Am Dad as "Plaigerismo de la Plaigerismo" - a copy of a copy. Hard to deny that. *** Now South Park wants to play? As this talk back has mentioned, Family Guy swiped from "The Simpsons", "Wait Until Your Father Gets Home", "King Of the Hill", "Futurama", "The Critic". Stealing from multiple sources doesn&#39;t make it less derivitive. South Park is just jealous because Family Guy hasn;t stolen from them yet. And, yes, I still occasionally watch Family guy and some of the cut-away gags and topical references are funny. I&#39;m not that amused with the elderly pederast Chris delivers papers to or the fact that Glenn Quagmire is a date-raping pedophile, but I&#39;m sure that&#39;s just a matter of taste. --- Defending FG by saying they just parody the same things The Simpsons parodied doesn&#39;t work if The Simpsons always did it first. although there was ONE Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode with Homer filling in for Death, which FG had already done two or three times. For the most part, the easist explanation is that Simpsons is Mad and Family Guy is Cracked and they often mock the same things, but stupid people think Cracked if funnier. That doesn&#39;t mean Cracked isn&#39;t occasionally funy, though. *** But why all this obsesion with cartoon shows from the &#39;90s? Isn&#39;t it too early for that sort of nostalgia? The two best cartoon shows of recent years are The Venture Brothers and The Boondocks, but that&#39;s just my opinion. I admit that you have to be an old Jonny Quest and Marvel Comics fan to &#39;get&#39; The Ventures and I&#39;m still not comfortable with the language on The Boondocks. It would be funnier if they used the N-word and just bleeped it every time, the way they did with the cursing on "Action". But that&#39;s what happens when a show places more emphasis on being edgy and thought provoking than it does on bringing the funny.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:29 a.m. CST

    The Venture Bros / The Boondocks

    by Andsoitis

    Two of the best shows put out by the Adult Swim lineup. Glad to see that other folks enjoy it as well. I know there is going to be a season 2 of Venture Bros. But after watching the first season, I&#39;m not quite sure how they would do it. But definitely looking forward to new Boondocks season. heheh Bury your heads in the sand...

  • April 6, 2006, 2:30 a.m. CST


    by ninjatracksuit

    Having one of the world&#39;s major terrorists/terrorist spokespeople make a comment about how much he can&#39;t stand Family Guy (or that the writing is weak) is genius - and I think it makes it pretty damn clear that the South Park guys and gals aren&#39;t going for a gentle ribbing...They really appear to dislike the show...And no, you wouldn&#39;t get any support if Family Guy struck first - FG is a show people watch while they&#39;re in a phase, then move on...South Park is something people watch for years and get attatched to...

  • April 6, 2006, 2:35 a.m. CST


    by stalfos

    Family Guy is the kind of show people love so much that a network revives it for them.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:38 a.m. CST

    OH YEAH...

    by ninjatracksuit


  • April 6, 2006, 2:41 a.m. CST


    by teedadawg

    I don&#39;t know what popular show you&#39;re talking about that attacked "Family Guy." I just think - and have always thought - "FG" eats dick. Massive amounts. Of tonsil-scraping. Unfunny. Dick. And "American Dad"? Jesus and the Mary Chain, that show reeks!!! p.s. I hated on "The Boondocks" earlier, but the season finale, with Ruckus in white heaven, made me laugh harder than anything I&#39;ve seen in YEARS. See? I can give a show a chance to grow and improve. But "FG" and "AD" are dead to me.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST

    FG eating dick

    by stalfos

  • April 6, 2006, 2:45 a.m. CST

    try again... FG eating dick

    by stalfos

    guess I missed that episode. It must&#39;ve been... censored! Oh, man, see how I did that? I&#39;m glad you brought up "White Heaven" though, cause that was hilarious.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:46 a.m. CST


    by ninjatracksuit

    I&#39;ll give you that one Stalfos, but I don&#39;t think that most of the original contingent is so heartily behind the show now...I&#39;ve noticed a lot of the people (I know) that loved it when it was originally on the air don&#39;t care much for the newer version...either way, they won&#39;t be able to bring it back when it&#39;s cancelled for good two seasons from now (and that&#39;s being optimistic)...

  • April 6, 2006, 2:49 a.m. CST


    by stalfos

    I want it known that I love South Park, but I like Family Guy, too. There was one recent episode of FG where Stewie acts as a loan shark and rocks Brian&#39;s world over some money that was pretty funny.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:55 a.m. CST

    White Heaven

    by Andsoitis

    I haven&#39;t deleted that episode from the Tivo yet...that or the "Luther/Itis" episode. If Family Guy is Cracked to Simpsons&#39; Mad...imagine if they made a Cracked TV. EEESHHh. My cowoker...(yeah I work nights) just came in and equated Family Guy as Mind of Mencia to the Simpsons Chappelle Show. Not my words, but I thought I&#39;d put it out there.

  • April 6, 2006, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Religous Jokes

    by pammybabe

    Anyone else notice a Christain right bias creeping into The Simpsons recently? Religion was always treated as a side joke before - church was just there so they could make jokes about how boring it was. But now it seems to be taking a more central role and it spouts ideas key to evangelical beliefs. A recent episode about The Rapture (which I had never heard of up till then) seemed to be acting as though we should truely believe it. Perhaps I&#39;m just missing the irony.

  • April 6, 2006, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Great show....oh my gosh SP was very funny

    by Russman

    They had so many religious jokes in there. Love it! Love it!

  • April 6, 2006, 3:06 a.m. CST

    No. I mean my balls

    by Doc_Strange

    That was the funniest shit I heard.

  • April 6, 2006, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Did I just walk into the opening scene of South Park?

    by Jinxo

    I just feel like I walked into a major riot over cartoons. Too weird. I really liked this episode. I think they were taking shots at Comedy Central over censorship but I don&#39;t think they were aiming at X incident or Y incident. It was about ALL of it. Same thing with Mohammed. Yeah, directly they were talking about the incident with the Mohammed cartoon but they were using that to sum up all the free speech stuff going on, about people just accepting not-so-free speech. That&#39;s the high level preachy stuff if having an opinion and really putting it out there is preachy. Then at the same time they were blasting The Family Guy as they used it as a proxy for South park itself. Did they really not mean to be mean to Family Guy? Are you crazy!?!? Of course they meant to be mean!!! They clearly aren&#39;t fans and don&#39;t like being compared to it. I DO like Family Guy but I also think what they said about it was on the money. Maybe they might actually enjoy Family Guy if they weren&#39;t being grouped with it. Look at it this way. All In The Family and Married With Children both were successful shows. Both with fighting families, both funny in their way. All In The Family though had more going on. Now imagine if every day someone came up to Norman Lear (creator of All In The Family) and said, "You&#39;re show is just like Married With Children." Even if Norman Lear started out liking Married With Children for what it was, in about a month, he&#39;d hate the hell out of it. Finally, if I may say, that was maybe the greatest Big Wheel chase scene ever. Except for maybe that one Mel Gibson did in that movie with that guy...

  • April 6, 2006, 6:12 a.m. CST

    Great episode

    by ChorleyFM

    3 top-notch shows in a row to kick off the new season. South Park has grown over the last 10 years into the best fictionalised satire going, and is in my opinion the best animated show currently airing.

  • April 6, 2006, 6:27 a.m. CST

    BSG won a Peabody Award last night!

    by paulh

    So did South Park, but here&#39;s the group&#39;s quote on BSG: ""A belated, brilliantly re-imagined revival of a so-so 1970s outer-space saga, the series about imperiled survivors of a besieged planet has revitalized sci-fi television with its parallax considerations of politics, religion, sex, even what it means to be &#39;human.&#39;"

  • April 6, 2006, 6:57 a.m. CST

    I like them all...

    by Halloween68

    That said, THE SIMPSONS hasn&#39;t been trully great since the 90s. It&#39;s gotten till I&#39;ll only watch it if there&#39;s nothing else on. It&#39;s tired. There comes a point in any show when you just start repeating yourself. THE SIMPSONS is way past that. Even that said, it still funnier than most stuff on tv. I guess that&#39;s why it&#39;s still on. SOUTH PARK is conceptually the funniest animated sitcom. The main theme, the main idea per episode is hands down the funniest. There&#39;s no doubt it&#39;s a very clever show. And they get away with more than any other show. I guess they "push the envelope" better than anyone else. Although, there&#39;s that DRAWN TOGETHER show now. That&#39;s some pretty sick s*@$t right there. FAMILY GUY is the all around consistently funniest of the animated sitcoms. They have the most laugh out loud moments (just on strict humor and not gross out uncomfortable moments laugh because you don&#39;t know what else to do moments) than any of the other shows. FAMILY GUY is more about jokes and slapstick. The others are more situational. It&#39;s only logical that FG would get more laughs. Every scene is a gag following up a gag that leads to another gag. SP is like one big joke that builds momentum as you go. SIMPONS is a toned down combination of the two others. It was the mold that started it all. But like any classic it starts to survive just on its reputation alone after a while. You couldn&#39;t beat THE SIMPSONS and REN & STIMPY back in the day.

  • April 6, 2006, 7:08 a.m. CST

    And the winner through all of this is...

    by The Wrong Guy

    KING OF THE HILL!!! Absolutely pure class, that show. One of the classiest shows ever. Never, once, in it&#39;s entire 10 year history, has it dabbled in cheap,dumb OBVIOUS gags at the expense of a show the creator doesn&#39;t happen to like.

  • April 6, 2006, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Crash ripping off Magnolia?

    by Engelhast

    So any movie with an ensemble cast and connected stories is a rip off of short cuts? Man there are some idiots on this website. I suppose by that logic Pulp Fiction is also a rip off of Short Cuts and Any Which Way but Loose is a rip off of King Kong because they are both movies with monkeys in them right?

  • April 6, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST

    There will be a 2nd part....

    by DanielKurland

    I realize they were making jokes about two parters in the episode, but this thing was left open-ended, there was not resolution, and for that reason I see them doing a second part. Also, if Family Guy does retalitate, it would not be seen for awhile. Not only does it take more time (than South Park&#39;s 1 week time) to do an episode, I think they probably have all the episodes for this season produced already, meaning it would air next year, when the entire thing would be presumably irrelevant.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:01 a.m. CST

    "the entire thing would be presumably irrelevant."

    by Engelhast

    Also known as par for the course on Family Guy.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I also don&#39;t think Seth gives a crap about this stuff..

    by The Wrong Guy

    I don&#39;t know, just from interviews and stuff he doesn&#39;t seem the sort to get all up-in-arms about being made fun of. When he was on Letterman for relaunch of FG,he said about American Dad &#39;Well, it&#39;s pretty much the exact same show as Family Guy&#39;. Very self-deprecating. Seriously- whatever you think of his shows, the man oozes coolness. Hey, I don&#39;t particularly like FG at present, but, hey, Seth is pretty awesome. Don&#39;t mean to sound like a fanboy of his, though I know I do.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:42 a.m. CST

    We really shouldn&#39;t compare South Park and Family Guy

    by TheDoctor73

    South Park = Political Satire. Family Guy = Modern Day Vaudeville. There is a big difference between the two.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:43 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m not questioning the quality of King of the Hill...

    by Shermdawg

    but, whats the point of it being a cartoon? This could have easily been a real sitcom. Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow!!! Right in the kisser! Pow...

  • April 6, 2006, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Simpsons, SP, FG - all had high points

    by Max Meanie

    All three shows have had their high points. Simpsons lost their chops around the 7th season. Losing Phil Hartman and introducing tons of unfunny characters (Cookie Kwan, Lindsey Nagle, Gil) for merch purposes. The writing has devolved into standard sitcom levels & I blame the new writers. FOX is just continuing a legacy. South Park had great social commentary with the film being the highpoint & episodes like Butters (OJ, The Ramseys, etc). But they lost something and I&#39;ve noticed the episodes being stretched around 1 joke (the alien immigrants, the hippie-fest, the hybrid-car) without many yuks inbetween. Again I blame the writers. Have they changed? Family Guys has lots of yuks but you cannot overlook their social commentary which is more daring when you consider it&#39;s on a major network - FOX. They&#39;ve had bits on Osama Bin Laden, terrorism, Bush&#39;s DWI, Gore, cigarette industry, 9-11, etc. (SP&#39;s Osama episode was a Warner Bros tribute.) So while it will seem dated down the road with constant pop culture references you cannot dismiss them as derivative. Simpsons is just another family sitcom. A funny animated one (no longer) but family sitcoms have been around since the &#39;50&#39;s. I see the point SP is trying to make about censorship but this episode wasn&#39;t funny. Trashing FG could&#39;ve been hilarious but it wasn&#39;t. I hope it picks up in the 2nd half. By the way, for social commentary Boondocks is amazing.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:11 a.m. CST

    South Park wasn&#39;t really making fun FG.

    by Thumper2k1

    They used Family Guy to talk about themselves. Had FG still been cancelled, it would have been the Simpsons featured in this episode.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST


    by Phimseto

    If you drew that cartoon of your math teacher today, you&#39;d doubtlessly be suspended for three weeks and news of what you did would be at least local if not national news. We live in a very fucked up country and a very fucked up world today.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:42 a.m. CST

    South Park

    by banditmania

    Episode bad, very very bad.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST

    The fake FG clips in South Park were funny because...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    ...They felt exactly like the kind of jokes that the real FG show would do. The best way for FG to retaliate would be to simply incorporate one of those jokes into an episode without changing it at all. (The one in which Peter auditions for the role of KITT would work perfectly. Then Brian says: "Peter, that NEVER happened to you. You saw that on TV." Peter: "Really? Huh. Well, what about that time I had lemonade with the Muslim prophet Mohammad--" Brian (directly): "Let&#39;s NOT go there.")

  • April 6, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST

    this is pointless

    by Kubrick67

    This whole arguement is pointless. The two shows have different types of humor each with their own flaws. Both are original in their own way and need to be on the air because I&#39;m sure everyone would get sick of shows that are all like south park or all like family guy.It&#39;s that simple. Now Matt and Trey are self-righteous and completely stuck-up. They think it makes them more intelligent than anyone because they go to and read the news. South Park is a great show, but the last few episodes are just stupid. They saw how succesful and controversial the whole Chef thing was so they try to create new controversy and pick new fights. I hope Family Guy does nothing in response and just ignores these immature shots, espicially since Seth McFarlene and Co. don&#39;t take themselves as seriously as Matt and Trey do. Both shows have been great and I am not arguing that, but South Park is starting to alienate their audience by making this show for their own personal interests rather than the audiences&#39;. And please don&#39;t rip on Williams St., these shows are completely original and irrelevent. But Fucking hilarious, NEW AQUA TEEN IN SEPTEMBER

  • April 6, 2006, 11:08 a.m. CST

    King of the Hill

    by barryap

    Is the smartest animated show out there right now. Maybe not the funniest, but I&#39;d rather catch the syndicated reruns of that than the Simpsons these days.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Simpsons & South Park are acting like prima-donnas

    by Tall_Boy

    Maybe they&#39;re pissy because they&#39;ve been the only game in town for so long and something to reach their level of popularity ticks &#39;em off. Still, I&#39;ll be damned if that the South Park parodies of Family Guy were full of ownage. They got the tone of it just right. "Have some Mr. T . . .TEA!" Thankfully, Family Guy isn&#39;t *that* bad, but it can be. I&#39;ve heart Matt and Trey bitch about Family Guy in interviews and on commentary mini&#39;s, so Cartman&#39;s speech was basically pretty much bang on how they felt. Good episode, I&#39;m gonna reccomend it to all my friends who think Family Guy is the be all and end all of animated comedy, just to enlighten &#39;em a little bit, and I can&#39;t wait for part 2.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:27 a.m. CST

    pammybabe, RE: Religious right on Simpsons

    by PushTheButton

    The Simpsons has always made fun of religion, but did it with a smile rather than a scowl. Thats what seperates it from South Park. They don&#39;t have to directly look into the camera and scream to make their point. The rapture episode last year was followed up next week by an awesome eepisode about the pointless differences between Christain sects. Of course, like all religious conflicts, it ends with world war.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    95% of people who enjoy Family Guy like South Park


    So any attempt to weigh one against the other is asinine, they&#39;re both great shows in thier own right.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Family Guy is shit.

    by JohnGalt2006

    South Park is genius. The end.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:56 a.m. CST

    And Isaac Hayes DESERVES to be ridiculed


    Along with anyone else STUPID enough to believe in scientology. Don&#39;t get me wrong, everyone deserves the freedom to choose thier religion. Scientology however is not a religion, it&#39;s a cult devised by a failing science fiction writer as part of a bet. The organization has bilked weak minded people out of millions of dollars, and if Isaac Hayes is going to be a crybaby after profiting from South Park for a decade, fuck him. He had no problem making fun of Mormons, Jews, Christians, Catholics, Blacks, Muslims, Hispanics, Asians, Goths, Punks, Metrosexuals, Transexuals, Homosexuals, Women, Canadians, the French, Costa Ricans, Barbara Streisand, Robert Redford, and EVERYONE ELSE ON THE FUCKING PLANET. But he cries like a little bitch when someone makes fun of his little sci-fi cult. He profited from crude humour for years, but when his little sect was the target he pissed himself and quit. Sorry, he&#39;s a pussy. Trey and Matt dredged him up from an obscure has been and made him a star again, and this is his repayment? You&#39;re right, we all get to choose our path in life, but if I started a religion based on Dungeons and Dragons or Lord of the Rings, I would expect to be made fun of. Scientology is no less a joke...

  • April 6, 2006, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Family guy rules, South Park rules, the end


    All of this is a matter of opinion, and both are quite successful so anyone who says one is better than the other is a horses ass.

  • April 6, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    South Park is the best

    by Rupee88

    At least it was a couple of seasons ago. This season, they are 0-3. But you can&#39;t forget the classic episodes and I&#39;m not giving up on Matt and Trey yet.

  • April 6, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Yes, Hayes is a pussy... but...

    by Incrediburgible

    Don&#39;t think for a minute that HE really wanted to quit South Park. It was his Intergalactic Pencil-dick Ass-fucking Scientology Overlords who leaned on him and made him quit. South Park put him behind the eight ball. Too fucking bad for him. He should have had the balls to tell Scientology to fuck the fuck off. It&#39;s not like he&#39;s got a career to fall back on. I hope he saved his nickles these past ten years. (That Chef character over-stayed his welcome by about eight years anyhow. He won&#39;t be missed.) I hope there are more Scientology-slamming SPs in the pipeline.

  • April 6, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    and as for Family Guy retaliating against South Park

    by Incrediburgible

    Unfortunately Family Guy episodes take eight weeks in a Chinese animation camp to manufacture. By the time the writing committee formulates a response and it makes it to the off-shore animators and is turned around and ready to air, South Park will have lapped them ten times. That&#39;s one of the many beauties of South Park. They can sit down and turn out a fresh episode from zero to sixty and have it ready to air in a week&#39;s time. So the content is topical. Unheard of for an animated show. Unheard of for a live action show, except for SNL. Like I said before Stone and Parker have great big shiny fucking balls attached to their chins. And they&#39;re full of brains!! Pink wrinkled fucking juicy ass brains stuffed into the chin balls. Family Guy has chin balls too, but he can just suck on SP&#39;s bigger shinier brainier more-topical balls FOREVER!

  • April 6, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST


    by SleazyG.

    Matt Groenig, Harry Shearer, Conan O&#39;Brien...these guys are conservatives? Holy christ are you fuckin&#39; dense. These guys are goddamn liberal poster boys. They&#39;ve all got liberal, subversive humor running through their veins. They&#39;re as far off from conservative as you can get. Ditto for Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart. Hit the clue store on your way home--seems like you&#39;re fresh out.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by godless

    I don&#39;t think anyone really got the episode... and maybe I&#39;m giving Trey, Matt and McFarland too much credit. I believe that the whole thing was drummed up by the three of them to once again slam Scientology, Comedy Central and the FCC. I also think that it was a swipe at the Simpsons for ragging on Family Guy. I&#39;m I the only one who saw the end of the episode? Although timely, I think that the Mohammed cartoon was just a metaphor. I really refuse to believe that there is any bad blood between the two camps. It&#39;s way too obvious for both, especially since the Simpson&#39;s already did it.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by jsm1978

    Have only seen one episode of that show, the one where the two guys (one voiced by Samuel L. Jackson) decide to kidnap Oprah. That was funny.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    You people are stupid

    by quadrupletree

    They were NOT making fun of Family Guy, they were using the fact that some people like family guy and some people don&#39;t to make a point about their own show and the fact that because some people don&#39;t particularly care for South Park they were willing to stick their heads in the sand while CC fucked them over and pulled their show because it was offensive to scientologists. And also to make the point that it&#39;s a slippery slope; this week it&#39;s scientologists, next week it&#39;s PETA, then fat people, next thing you know they can&#39;t make fun of anyone. It&#39;s like . AH forget it, it&#39;s like talking to retarded goldfish. Carry on.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:21 p.m. CST

    SlezyG, those guys are only "Liberal"

    by TimBenzedrine

    because they&#39;re smart enough to view a situation from many different angles and still be entertaining, rather than just adhere to one single hardline point of veiw. I&#39;m sure privately they hold conserative veiws on some things and not others. Educated, open minded people are able to take it all in and decide for themselves without following either camp in lock step. That said, I, personally, prefer Kyle&#39;s Dad&#39;s responce to FG by attacking the TV with a bat, but that&#39;s just me. What do you want to bet McFarland was watching the show and thinking, "Mr T. --Tea! of course! why didn&#39;t we think of that? Call a writer&#39;s meeting, I think we can stretch that into an episode!"

  • April 6, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    My DVR cut out. How did it end?

    by Lenny Nero

    The last image was of the outside of Fox Studios, and then it ended. I know there&#39;s not much more, but I&#39;d still like to know.

  • April 6, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Check it

    by Cesman

  • April 6, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Family Guy haters are a "little" minority...

    by Doom II

    The whole reason Family Guy was BROUGHT BACK on the air after being cancelled 3 years ago was the DVD sales were through the roof. Family Guy dvd&#39;s were in the top 10 sales for ALL dvd&#39;s produced in (2003 I believe). Yeah, nobody likes that show. The dvd&#39;s outsold South Park and Simpsons but they really have no audience. Fucking babies. I like all 3 for different reasons. I also Like Venture Brothers, Ren & Stimpy and Beavis & Butthead. Hmmm, am I commiting treason for liking so many cartoon shows?

  • April 6, 2006, 2:14 p.m. CST

    I&#39;m sure Seth McFarlane was watching South Park

    by Doom II

    while sitting in his hot tub filled with thousand dollar bills. McFarlane , Stone and Parker and Groening are all filthy fucking rich from the merchandising and syndication sales etc. Anyone here alive in 1991 when every fucking t-shirt in every fucking store had an image of Bart Simpson on it? It was a pretty grim time indeed. Groening pretty much retired around then (except for his now horrible Life In Hell comics that used to be genius in the 80&#39;s). Talk about lazy writing. Just have gay lovers Ackbar and Jeff trade insults every week. Don&#39;t bother to actually DRAW anything new in your syndicated COMIC STRIP. If you don&#39;t know what I&#39;m talking about, then you know nothing about Matt Groening. Yes kids, he started as a satirical comic strip artist/writer. He was brilliant and cutting edge until the Simpsons cash started rolling in.....

  • April 6, 2006, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Who cares? I just wanna bang Lois! Is that wrong?

    by HansDelbruck

  • April 6, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Fuck Family Guy.

    by Rearden

  • April 6, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST


    by GaiustheBrave

    didn&#39;t Carl say something a couple of weeks ago about all religion being a con, or something like that. If the show were leaning towards "right-wing religion" I don&#39;t imagine they&#39;d let that go without a last minute conversion by Carl in which, after being sent back into Bible times through a magic book, he exclaims his new religion in a song involving talking vegetables. At which point, Lenny, in a moment of confusion, shoots Carl in the back of the head, and tells his corpse how inane the concept of having talking vegetables playing biblical characters is. Or, something along those lines.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:41 p.m. CST


    by GaiustheBrave

    I use to feel the same about April from TMNT, when I was younger. Did you have her toy? She was well endowed, and became my model for the perfect woman; her hands were always folded into a circle.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Talking vegetables... the Bible...

    by ejcarter9

    ... ... ... hmmmmmmmm... Drawn Together did it!

  • April 6, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Nobody&#39;s Saying Family Guy Doesn&#39;t Have A Big Audience

    by Incrediburgible

    All we&#39;re saying is that you&#39;re all a bunch of slow-witted ass-hats who wouldn&#39;t know a quality show if it came up and bit you on the balls.

  • April 6, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Talking Vegetables + the Bible = VegiTales

    by Meremoth

    A show in which computer animated talking fruit act out a story (generally biblically based) to portray a biblical message. Sounds crazy huh, But I bet6 the guys who made it are just as rich as Trey and Matt.

  • April 6, 2006, 3:11 p.m. CST

    And, of course, Simpsons did VegiTales....

    by PushTheButton

    in 2003. So, once again, Simpsons did it. I don&#39;t know what to think about last night&#39;s South Park. It had the best (trike-chase) and the worst (LITERALLY "Bury heads in sand") of what they do. I hope next week&#39;s episode isn&#39;t a two parter. Piss all the geeks off! hahaha. I think Trey (face it, it&#39;s all Trey) is just having a laugh by stirring the pot. He&#39;s managed to rile up cartoon geeks, defenders of censorship, Comedy Central, and (providing that the promise of a two-parter is a ruse) their own fans with this one. Good job. Not a very funny episode though.

  • April 6, 2006, 3:31 p.m. CST

    sorry but...simpsons hasn&#39;t

    by Datascream

    been funny since Phil Hartman died. Not their fault, but the content is just below par and is plauged with constant celebrities to attract viewers. Family Guy came along and basically filled the void for an actual funny TV sitcom. Family Guy is twice as funny and cleaver then Simpsons will ever be now. And South Park just continues with the same gross out humor or constant fights between kids and senselessly makes fun of shit. It&#39;s funny occasionally, but after I saw the Paris Hilton episode, I could tell their writing was just progressivly turning into a 13 year old middle school hatefest. Family Guy is a much better show. The similarities between Simpsons and Family GUy are about the same as any other TV sitcom you see. Wise-cracking friends, sex humor, witty drug humor that&#39;s still PC enough to be aired, and the moral story at the end where the family comes together.

  • April 6, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST

    The main burn...

    by Tzaddi

    ... was in showing that the most relevance that FG can possibly hope to muster is showing Peter with the prophet drinking tea. It is a right-on-target analysis of Family Guy: as funny as it is, it is completely empty. On the other hand South Park has become an animated editorial which reflects pretty accurately the views of Gen X: Socially Liberal/Politically Conservative

  • April 6, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Do we need.....

    by crider5

    Hey all theses shows have something to offer, because if they werent on there time slots would be filled with another crime investigations or medical drama clone. And do we really need another one of those shows.

  • April 6, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by Razz Matazz

    According to South Park...situational, story-based jokes are the only ones worthwhile and require talent to write. Matt and Trey must FUCKING HATE "Airplane." ZAZ must be the biggest group of hacks on the planet to them. Give me a fucking break! Matt and Trey are just jealous &#39;cause Family Guy is encroaching on their terrirtory as "The funniest animated sitcom on air." They are pissed that no one talks about their show and Family Guy gets all the attention. Boo-Fucking-Hoo...Cry Baby Cockwads!

  • April 6, 2006, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Opinions are like ____, everyones got one, heres mine

    by Yamato

    The Simpsons main problem is that they fell victim to a classic blunder from sitcoms in the 80&#39;s, youngest daughter becomes an "activist". See Fresh Prince, Faimily Ties etc. Every time they use an episode to jam Lisa&#39;s "pc thug" opinions down our throats. (veganism, animal rights, etc) I turn the channel, and far too many ep&#39;s of the Simpsons feature annoying little Lisa. Lisa is a comedy killer, and they need to take a clue from Family Guy and how they have used the character of Meg in the last season. The Simpsons was once great, one of the greatest shows on TV. But now it is tired, uninspired, and oh so preachy. The Simpsons is like that former sports star who hangs around as a medicore back up and wont retire. Its kinda sad really.

  • April 6, 2006, 4:11 p.m. CST

    What really happened to the SImpsons

    by MrBoinfoint

    When they first came on the air, they were decried as lowest common denominator, youth corrupting, censor offending boors. Remember "Underachiever And Proud Of It"? That shit got me suspended from school. Eventually everyone realized that they were actually intelligent and subversive satires of pop culture. And they became accepted, and in the process went as far as they could into the shocking and controversial without lapsing into bad taste. Then South Park came along and blatantly crossed that line and dragged pop culture along with it. And then Fmaily Guy came along and scraped the very dregs of the bottom of the barrell. Don&#39;t get me wrong, they&#39;re all funny as hell in their own way. I&#39;m just saying that the reason everyone says the Simpsons has "lost it" is because they can&#39;t compete on the same level of tastelessness as the newer shows. They found their medium and are apparently happy with it. No talking poo, no matricidal infant, and I guess no more respect. Except they did it all first, from potty mouthed fourth graders, to outrageously stylized cartoon violence, to brilliant pop culture and social satire.

  • April 6, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    FUTURAMA was better than all of them!!

    by My Ass Smells


  • April 6, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Duckman owns SP, FG, Simpsons, and everybody else

    by Richard Cranium

    That&#39;s right, bitches.

  • April 6, 2006, 4:27 p.m. CST

    I think change is good.

    by Doom II

    The Simpsons is without a doubt the most succesful animated program ever made. The show is legendary and will live forever, but like any show, it has run its course. South Park was also brilliant (and at time just immature), but it peaked with the South Park Movie. Family guy is the current prime-time hit and is hilarious at times and spotty at times. The world is big enough for 3 cartoon shows. There are at least 2 "psychic detective" series out there as well as 3 CSI shows, 10 BAD sitcoms and 3 "Amazingly Dumb Assholes Getting Hurt" video shows. 3 cartoons is actually a welcome relief. And last night&#39;s episode was "kinda" funny. I await the Family Guy retribution. At least it will be well animated! Stewie should plot to wipe out South Park with a death ray. They could do a crossover episode and feature Matt and Trey getting beheaded by some radical Muslims who saw the Super Heroes episode.

  • April 6, 2006, 4:38 p.m. CST

    FG not like Airplane, more like Scary Movie

    by PushTheButton

    there is a difference.

  • April 6, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    You pretty much got it right quadrupletree

    by bb6634

  • April 6, 2006, 5:28 p.m. CST

    I&#39;ve figured it out; Family Guy=Crash

    by vinceklortho

    Let&#39;s look at a few things here. The thing about Family Guy is that the fans of show LOVE it. What bothers people who simply don&#39;t care for Family Guy is that the fans love the show so much, and people can&#39;t seem to figure it out. What other thing has caused so much divide? Just the whirling thunderstorm that is known as The Simpsons don&#39;t need to be thrown into this circle because it&#39;s like the old respected man who has had his time in the the past. No one can compare with the Simpsons cause they were the only ones doing it. Now they are weak and old, but still can be pretty fiesty. Let&#39;s leave those guys out of it. Family Guy and Crash supporters both think that the show and movie don&#39;t NEED to have anything to say, which continues to irritate both distractors. Both are enjoyable, in their own way, and the effort is genuine. But, both also have to stand up to the test of time and longevity. There they will both find out if they are true classics. The haters of both I know are waiting for that moment.

  • April 6, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    What REALLY happened to the Simpsons:

    by Flim Springfield

    World-wide success! The Simpsons is one of the most popular shows in the WORLD. There is less subtle humour and more physical comedy because they have to appeal to a worldwide audience. I know this bugs some people and they&#39;d rather see the show cancelled rather than "share" it, but it&#39;s still a damn entertaining show, and there&#39;s still lots of subtle laughs to reward you for paying attention. You may not like Homer getting gored in the crotch, but on the other side of the planet there might be people pissing themselves from laughter.

  • April 6, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST

    South Park has better animation than Family Guy.

    by CLMoose8

    Yeah, South Park is still done in the faux construction paper cutout style, but at least it has a style. Family Guy has absolutely no style beyond people whose chins look like ballsacks. And South Park has been evolving and doing amazing things with it&#39;s animation lately. I&#39;d venture than any given TV episode looks far better than the multi million dollar movie from seven years back.

  • April 6, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    The Simpsons: will always kick ass.

    by vinceklortho

    by the way, Flim Springfield. Just saw the Radioactive Man movie episode again from season 7. Is that where you got your username?

  • April 6, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    vinceklortho, you are a genius.

    by El Scorcho

    Fuck Family Guy and fuck Crash. The fans of both of those pieces of media are dumbshits.

  • April 6, 2006, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Doom II, South Park peaked at the movie?

    by I Dunno

    Are you nuts? That was in 1999. That was right around the time where the show became more than just 7 year olds cursing and moved to something more. So if your idea idea comedy is 7 year old cursing then I guess for you, South Park peaked at the movie but for the rest of the world, it&#39;s gotten beter since then.

  • April 6, 2006, 7:10 p.m. CST


    by Razz Matazz

    You&#39;re missing the point. Their claim is that story-based humor is superior to abstract humor. I think that&#39;s bogus. One&#39;s not necessarily better than the other - they&#39;re just different. To prove that I pointed to "Airplane" as brilliance in abstract humor.

  • April 6, 2006, 7:19 p.m. CST

    vinceklortho: Yep!

    by Flim Springfield

    And I take it your name is from "Ghostbusters"- one of my favourite movies!

  • April 6, 2006, 7:26 p.m. CST


    by Razz Matazz

    I&#39;m with you. There&#39;s a difference between being topical and preachy - South Park is now definately the latter! Trey and Matt have become the very self-rightious, preachy, pompous celebrities they&#39;ve claimed to distain for many years. Perhaps they&#39;re blind to this because they&#39;ve been too busy sniffing their own farts to give us anything but their own elitist diatribe.

  • April 6, 2006, 7:30 p.m. CST


    by vinceklortho

    And yes...I am the key master of Gozer. Hilarious Simpsons episode you got your name from. "Let&#39;s check out this town to film the movie..the only town that had an ad and mispelled "film"." classic Simpsons.

  • April 6, 2006, 7:57 p.m. CST

    "Therrrre&#39;s yer answer, Fishbulb."

    by Incrediburgible

  • April 6, 2006, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Actually, about the movie...

    by CLMoose8

    I consider South Park to have two seperate eras. The original era, where it was immensely popular with 6th graders (myself included) who wore "They Killed Kenny" t-shirts and whose parents forbid them to watch it. There wasn&#39;t REALLY any topical, biting humor, just random stupid references, like having an obsession with trying to kill Kathie Lee Gifford. Come to think about it, early South Park is more like current Family Guy. Anyways, after that formula got old, South Park began to mature and evolve, and that&#39;s when we got the movie. Bigger Longer and Uncut was the first time South Park got real mainstream media attention for being a biting, intelligent satire. Besides the fact that the movie is a fucking epic masterpiece (which the Simpsons writers should watch about a hundred times in order to see how to properly go from TV to cinema), it ushered in the new, satirical and political SP. Cartman stopped being an "BEEFCAKE! RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!" catchphrase factory and became the conniving, manipulative mini Archie Bunker that he is today. I don&#39;t believe that the movie was the peak of the show, but rather the beginning of something entirely different.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Whats wrong with you people

    by Lovecraftfan

    Last time I checked season 7 was after the movie and its a great season and there&#39;s been some great episodes recently like the Scientology episode. South Park is still great and still topical and still gutsy. I just dont get you guys.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:05 p.m. CST


    by TheLastBystander

    interesting points

  • April 6, 2006, 9:06 p.m. CST

    The South Park movie is also the best musical Hollywood

    by FluffyUnbound

    has produced since the Julie Andrews era. It&#39;s pretty much a landmark cinema achievement.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:09 p.m. CST

    The entire movie is effing sublime.

    by CLMoose8

    &#39;Nuff said. We need a super special edition ASAP.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST

    One thing I learned from South Park . . .

    by pewterschmidt

    You can shove food up your butt and crap out your mouth. Useful information.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:44 p.m. CST

    There&#39;s something seriously wrong with the lot of you

    by BendersShinyAss

    I love &#39;Family guy&#39;. I love &#39;the Simpsons&#39;. I love &#39;South park&#39;. I love &#39;Futurama&#39;. Shit, I didn&#39;t mind the few episodes of &#39;American Dad&#39; that I saw. But all I see here is what looks like the makers of each of these shows dishing it out on each other as the general public looks on. So hear me - I love them all. Only I do have one thing to say about Family Guy OVER Simpsons..... When ever someone in Simpsons starts to talk about &#39;remembering that time when.....&#39; I anticipate a flashback ala Family Guy. But it never happens. And Simpsons knows that it can&#39;t do it either - or they have lost. hahaha. No, i love them all.

  • April 6, 2006, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Magic Beans.

    by CLMoose8

    Oh man, that just reminded me of something, one of my favorite Simpsons jokes ever. The Cat Burglar episode. Marge: "Homer, tell your child what you bought when I sent you to town to get some insurance." Homer: "Curse you, magic beans!" Marge: "Oh, stop blaming the beans." I only bring this up because, if the very same joke were on Family Guy, instead of Homer cursing the beans we&#39;d see some lame cutaway to Peter buying magic beans from some shady looking guy in a trenchcoat, and at the same time sucking every ounce of humor from the situation.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:24 p.m. CST


    by Kubrick67

    Sorry had to say something, just really annoyed me: El Scorcho;"Fuck Family Guy and fuck Crash. The fans of both of those pieces of media are dumbshits." The phrase "piece of media" makes no sense, let me remind you that media is the plural of medium and therefore that makes no sense El Scorcho so please before you bash anyone for being dumb, learn a little vocab

  • April 6, 2006, 10:36 p.m. CST

    ummm, you really aren&#39;t expecting a Part 2, are you?

    by Col. Klink

    That&#39;s just way too embarassing that the "Next Week" joke went so far over your heads.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:41 p.m. CST


    by sevadro

    I still love Family Guy, but last night&#39;s South Park episode was fucking genius. Was it just me or was South Park using dialog from "Armageddon?"

  • April 6, 2006, 10:46 p.m. CST

    What about that Family Guy &#39;2 parter&#39;

    by BendersShinyAss

    The one where the dog goes off to LA. and when the second episode starts there is a recap of the first..... and it&#39;s full of all this action that NEVER even happened in the first part. Now THAT made me fucking laugh! In fact, i find myself laughing all the way through Family Guy. I find it so hard to take anyone who hates it seriously. Especially these dip shits who use the excuse that the jokes wont work for future generations. Leave your cocks alone for just a day or two.

  • April 6, 2006, 10:48 p.m. CST


    by digital8

    ya you can talk...your name represents an overrated director

  • April 6, 2006, 10:59 p.m. CST


    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...because at the end of the show I felt absolutely certain that in the second part of this episode we would see Mohammed. And the consensus here seems to be that the whole promise of a second part is a joke. Maybe it is. But if it is, this episode backed off in its clear purpose. Because the drive by comedic hit on Family Guy wasn&#39;t the point of this episode at all. Sorry. I know it seems like it was awful important to a lot of you talkbackers leading up to the show, but this episode addressed something a little more important. It addressed a fairly sizable portion of the Islamic world allowing themselves to be beaten into a violent frenzy over their inability to control the actions and limit the freedoms of people who do not share their faith. It also addressed the fact that serious debate took place in the western world over whether the correct response to this was to allow freedoms to be curtailed by the threat of violence. And to drive home their belief in this point the boys must show Mohammed. They must be willing to make the statement that where freedom of thought and expression, something as sacred in our pluralistic culture as their devotion to their prophet is in their&#39;s, enters the equation, we do not back down. Not one inch. Not ever. And there&#39;s really only one way to do that.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Ned Lynch, I totally agree, the only thing is...

    by CLMoose8

    South Park has already showed Mohammed a few seasons back, as a superhero with pyrokinetic powers to boot. And nobody cared. I think that, to show him again in the (event of a) second part, and make a big deal about it, would be somewhat hypocritical of them. I&#39;m sure Matt and Trey have something up their sleeves.

  • April 6, 2006, 11:32 p.m. CST


    by Kubrick67

    Well you were not arguing with my point, but instead my name. I would call that completely irrevlevant and I refuse to get in an argument about Kubrick on a board about South Park. If you think what I said was wrong then tell me instead of taking really weak shots at my username to pick a fight

  • April 6, 2006, 11:38 p.m. CST

    All I know is

    by MrBoinfoint

    There&#39;s a hot muslim chick that I&#39;m trying to score with and I hope she doesn&#39;t catch me watching South Park. Or that she&#39;s already in an arranged marriage. Or that she wants me dead for not believing in Mohammed in the first place. Damn these pesky insurmountable cultural and religious differences!

  • April 7, 2006, 12:04 a.m. CST


    by Pr_Frink

    It&#39;s unbelievable the amount of debate that gets thrown around over cartoons. Who cares?! Some people like all of the ones mentioned, some people only like one or two of them. There&#39;s no wrong or right!! It&#39;s personal taste. Why somebody hates a certain show will be the reason another loves it. Let it go!!

  • You mean like Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo and Big Gay Al&#39;s Big Gay Boat Ride?

  • You mean like Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo and Big Gay Al&#39;s Big Gay Boat Ride?

  • April 7, 2006, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Mr. Hankey

    by CLMoose8

    Actually, I thought the whole point of Mr. Hankey was that, while the parents were bickering over the religious aspects of Santa and whether Christmas decorations offend people of other (or no) religious faiths, the only icon that noone was offended by was a talking lump of feces.

  • April 7, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Oh jeez, were you being sarcastic?

    by CLMoose8

    Seriously, I can&#39;t tell if that is or not. If it was sarcasm, my apologies.

  • April 7, 2006, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Family Guy writers are Crab People

    by Tall_Boy

    assuming there is a part 2, that is...

  • April 7, 2006, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Taste like crab, talk like people?

    by Lenny Nero

  • April 7, 2006, 5:24 a.m. CST

    south park vs. family guy

    by rebel299

    its like apples and oranges. and whats so wrong about disposable humor anyways? if i want to watch something that will be funny forever i&#39;ll watch blazing saddles. but if i want some cheap laughs right now, there&#39;s nothing wrong with family guy. speaking of disposable humor though, i&#39;ve been thinking lately. sure, family guy takes alot of heat for using pop culture references and jokes, but what about south park. will a lot of these recent episodes hold up in the future? i mean, 20 years from now are we going to look at these episodes the same way? one thing that makes the last couple of seasons of south park amusing is the timing of the topics and being so up to date. its just going to lose its bite in the future. however, i still laugh at a good star wars gag, so who knows. in the mean time, i say that no matter what syle of show they&#39;re making, whether it be family guy or south park just keep it coming.

  • April 7, 2006, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Loved The Big Wheel / Cop Car Chase!

    by ZombieSolutions

    best part, IMHO. i think that is what Matt and Trey are best at; taking the childs eye view. They&#39;re also very good at social satire in terms of pop-stuff and/or relgion, but their political satire, on the other hand, is, more often than not, of the distincly Affluent Suburban White Frat Guy variety (read: clueless). oh, btw, I love all three shows -- THE SIMPSONS, FAMILY GUY, and SOUTH PARK. But, to be objective, THE SIMPSONS has the most consistently good writing; even if they peaked years ago (sad, but true), I always find it entertaining. FAMILY GUY and SOUTH PARK are both hilarious, but their quality isn&#39;t nearly as consistent as THE SIMPSONS.

  • April 7, 2006, 7:15 a.m. CST


    by TempusFugitive

    Hey, do those of us who enjoy all three shows have to leave our cocks alone too? Cause if so, I officially refuse! (Oh, and stay tuned for new ATHF episodes this fall!)

  • April 7, 2006, 7:40 a.m. CST

    My guess

    by Banky the Hack

    Is that all the Family Guy writers are Jewish, which explains why Cartman hates the show, as well as makes roundabout fun of his statement in the first episode "What if there were a cartoon that made fun of Jewish people, Kyle?", which was already self-ribbing enough, but this scenario would be icing on the cake.

  • April 7, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST

    It&#39;s way too easy to pit you chumps against one another


    All they have to do is come up with a topic name and the basement dwellers come out swinging. "South Park owns, and Family guy raped my childhood". "Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars". Blah blah blah. Let&#39;s get all up in arms about a couple of crudely hillarious cartoons. Let me save you the trouble of making asses of yourselves. The Simpsons, South Park, and Family Guy are all successful because millions of fans adore them. I watch each of them religiously. Sure the Simpsons was funnier when Hartman was still around, but it&#39;s still funnier than 95% of the shows on TV, and is surpassed only by the aforementioned South Park, and Family Guy, and a good cross section of the Adult Swim lineup. Quit arguing over which cartoon is better you morons. You&#39;ve completely missed the point of the South Park episode in question.

  • April 7, 2006, 9 a.m. CST

    South Park mocks everything and everyone


    So it shouldn&#39;t suprise you that they rip on thier competition once in a while. I&#39;d be very suprised if Matt and Trey actually hated Family guy, and until you can show me a video clip of them stating this, you&#39;ve got nothing. You pretty much have to be an idiot to not find Family Guy hillarious. My 80 something Catholic Grandmother in Law laughs at Family Guy in spite of herself, so all of you pricks pretending to be above it all aren&#39;t impressing anyone. Oooh you&#39;re so pretensious that you can&#39;t laugh at pop culture satire.... How sophisticated. I don&#39;t care what any of you say, Peter Griffin&#39;s anecdote about his time as Kevin Federline&#39;s magic mirror was just one of thousands of bits of comedy gold brought to us by Family Guy. "Magic Mirror, how can I look like more of a douchebag today?" or the comment about Paris Hilton smelling and tasting like salty garbage. Gold.

  • April 7, 2006, 9:31 a.m. CST

    I actually changed my mind on FAMILY GUY

    by LaserMonkey

    I hated it at first, and I especially hated all the middle-schoolers and dope feind college dorks who don&#39;t know any better saying it was better than THE SIMPSONS. Nothing in the history of man is better than THE SIMPSONS (aside from porn and women who swallow). But in it&#39;s own crass, empty, surface-level way I get laughs from it. Crass is the best word. SP is also crass but it has a conscience and a point of view. FG is "pop pop pop" joke after joke, 30% of them maybe work. It&#39;s immature and it&#39;s not really clever (talking novel-writing dog?? ), it&#39;s has no layers and it says nothing about our society and lives. It&#39;s just a laugh machine and I&#39;ve decided that&#39;s ok. SIMPSONS is one of the great American satires. Even as spotty as it has been since 2000, it has a history and a relevence to it. It has history. In it&#39;s best moments it blows the fucking doors off FG, SP and everything else. I forgive it now because it has brought me so much joy in the past. This season has been an improvement, and I look forward to the movie. FUTURAMA, I think for the 4 seasons that were made, was funnier than THE SIMPSONS. It&#39;s one of the saddest situations ever. That sunday night block of SIMPSONS, FUTRAMA, and the woefully underrated KING OF THE HILL was class. If you had those 3 and topped it off with FG therewouldn&#39;t be a better night of TV. The 4 shows compliment each other and offer different things. KOH makes me like rednecks, and in real life I fucking hate rednecks. But KOH is so fucking good I understand them. All in all, all these shows are successful at their chosen formulas. FG is not and never will be better than SIMPSONS, SP or KOH but it doesn&#39;t seem to be trying to be better. It&#39;s just a 7th grader joke factory, and that isn&#39;t so bad.

  • April 7, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST


    by Billyeveryteen

    They haven&#39;t canceled that shitstorm? Sigh...

  • April 7, 2006, 10:39 a.m. CST


    by TempusFugitive

    Cancel it? Hell, they&#39;re putting out a "feature length" ATHF movie, whihc is one of the reasons the "new season" doesn&#39;t start until this fall. Heh heh. Shitstorm, eh? Pauvre petite...

  • April 7, 2006, 10:48 a.m. CST

    The art of parody.

    by The_Clu

    You wanna know what hurts Family Guy more than anything? It&#39;s that they don&#39;t get that parodying something isn&#39;t lifting it directly from the source material and plopping it into an episode. It&#39;s the reason why shit like the Scary Movie series doesn&#39;t work-there&#39;s no art to it. There&#39;s no wink-wink, nudge-nudge. It&#39;s all "HERE IT IS, IN ALL IT&#39;S GLORY! ROCK LOBSTER! PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME! GET IT!?". Whereas if you take The Simpsons (and to keep up with the movie thing, Scream), everything is very tongue and cheek, and you have to listen very carefully to get all the side-jokes. That&#39;s what makes it timeless- you can hear a joke that is funny, but you don&#39;t really get, and then see some old movie, then go back to the show and say "OOOHHHH!" and it becomes a million times funnier. There&#39;s just no cohesive nature to Family Guy anymore, which hurts the show in the long run. Me and my friend Colin used to quote entire episodes of Family Guy- now I&#39;m lucky if I remember an episodes plot because it bounces from topic to topic so fast it&#39;s hard to keep track of everything. As for South Park, sometimes I just want a knee-slapping, laugh &#39;til you cry type of show that isn&#39;t so heavy on message that I feel like someone&#39;s trying to shove it down my throat. Both shows have their weaknesses, but I give it up a little bit more to South Park, just for being more original, though one must admit I like the one off shows that are about just plain bullshit nonsense then anything else.

  • April 7, 2006, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I&#39;d say more like 60-70% of the FG jokes work...

    by Novaman5000

    And as formulaic as it&#39;s become, the cut aways to irrelevant events are still one of the highlights of that show. Sure, they&#39;re pointless, but they&#39;re funny, and isn&#39;t that the point?

  • April 7, 2006, 11:03 a.m. CST

    about "Family Guy"

    by teufelhunden

    I think that Trey and Matt Stone are missing the point a bit. Sure the jokes on "The Family Guy" are not really plot driven, but what&#39;s so bad about a show that is funny for funny&#39;s sake? It&#39;s like saying a comedian has to write jokes about larger social and political issues to be considered great. Chris Rock is great, sure. But so is Don Rickles. I&#39;m just glad that we live in an era when we have so many quality animated shows to choose from. There&#39;s literally something for everyone.

  • April 7, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I vote that anyone...

    by NathanDetroits

    ...who doesn&#39;t understand that this is satire, and not an indictment on Family Guy, be removed from the gene pool. For humanity&#39;s sake. Look guys, Trey and Matt aren&#39;t being serious. They are just using Family Guy as a metaphor for art in general. The meanest shots at Family Guy are done in third-person as a part of the PLOT of the episode. Seriously, if some of you can&#39;t get your heads around that and not take offense, you are FUCKING RETARDED.

  • April 7, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Shpadoinkle is from Cannibal:The Musical by Matt & Trey

    by pokadoo

    Or Alferd Packer:The Musical, as it&#39;s originaly called. I think Zander also said it when he saw that big bile of crap that Buffy jumped off at the end of season 5. I think. Anyway, i&#39;m glad South Park had a go at Family Guy. I also hate when people assume i like it and start telling me about some gag, and when i cut them off and tell them for the millionth time "I dont watch Family Guy. I don&#39;t like it." , they look confused, and then say "Yeah...but let me just tell you this one bit!" AAAARGH!!

  • April 7, 2006, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I never got it

    by ScullyToo

    I&#39;ve never gotten the appeal of "Family Guy." Yeah, it&#39;s got some amusing jokes on occassion, but I&#39;ve enver really understood it. Watching Wednesday night&#39;s episode, I can see where the issues are. And did you notice that Kyle and Stan didn&#39;t really laugh all that hard at the show?

  • April 7, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    To the guy who is pissed at FG for the Aids song..

    by ReelPoster

    I have one thing to say.. EVERYONE HAS AIDS! AIDS! AIDS! AIDS!

  • April 7, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Lot of good jokes in Family Guy

    by BrandLoyalist

    Like this one, ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? Ya know? It&#39;s funny because it doesn&#39;t stop.

  • April 7, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST


    by TempusFugitive

    Motion seconded.... sheesh.

  • April 7, 2006, 1:38 p.m. CST

    The thing about South Park...

    by Delete Me that it has no shelf life. The shows date themselves within weeks or days. The episodes people make the biggest deals about are the ones that are topical - the one about the Mel Gibson, the one about Isaac Hayes being a Scientologist, etc. - but the best episodes are the ones that have nothing to do with any of that: stuff like the episode where Cartman gets revenge by tricking the older kid into eating his parents. You remember those ones because you care about the stories after you&#39;ve stopped caring about whatever stupid pop cultural event Parker and Stone decided to make their inane little comment about.

  • April 7, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    "They&#39;re putting out a "feature length" ATHF movie"

    by Billyeveryteen

    You&#39;re proud of this? Ick..

  • April 7, 2006, 2:36 p.m. CST

    The writers are probably

    by ZombiKiller86

    Darth Chef or Crab People.

  • April 7, 2006, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Family Guy Sucks

    by Incrediburgible

    Family Guy Sucks

  • April 7, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s just too bad it&#39;ll take Family Guy months to hit..

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    South Park back. Shit was funny though.

  • April 7, 2006, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Delete Me - Topical content is probably the future

    by Max Meanie

    I didn&#39;t think about it until your post. It&#39;s likely that the appeal of South Park, Family Guy & Simpsons is their commentary on current events - South Park the quickest to comment of all. With today&#39;s instant fix society, people like it when Stan & Kyle catch Saddam 5 days after the US did. No one cares a year later. just like no one watches Survivor re-runs. Topical content shows will increase on TV. When pop culture references bug me is in films, especially Disney. Don&#39;t put in phrases like, "Is that your final answer?" and call the DVD an instant classic!

  • April 7, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST



    South Park hasn&#39;t been funny in years. Put a gun to it&#39;s head along with the Simpsons & put them both out of their misery.

  • April 7, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    "Family Guy" parodies on "South Park"

    by careyleefisher

    I can&#39;t tell the difference between the "Family Guy" scenes that the Stan, Kyle and Cartman and the real "Family Guy". "Family Guy" is so bad that all "South Park" had to show to mock it were scenes that could easily have existed on the real "Family Guy". All the lame "Family Guy" scenes they used to show how bad it is were exactly the kind of stupid nonsense that the "Family Guy" writers seem to think is funny. All "South Park" did was use "Family Guy"&#39;s own "humor" against it. "Family Guy" has got the be one of the worst excuses for comedy on television.

  • April 7, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    All three shows have come to suck...

    by _Maltheus_

    ...but South Park will likely be good again. It goes through phases. This season hasn&#39;t been too good. Last one wasn&#39;t either. The one before that was possibly the best one of all. And if you don&#39;t like it, you can pass the blunt to the nigga on the left. ........ Family Guy never reaches the quality of the original run. It sucks like the Simpsons because they decided to move away from plots, and instead just stitch together a bunch of non-related scenes. American Dad is the true continuation of Family Guy. At least it&#39;s better than FG is these days. ........ I think South Park will "puss out" next week, but in the context of a joke. Like when they were gonna reveal Cartman&#39;s father and had a Terrrance and Philip episode instead.

  • April 7, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    One of the best

    by DoubleFantasy

    One of the funniest south park episodes of the past two seasons and the line "It&#39;s Wrong. IT&#39;S WRONG!! It&#39;s wrrrooonnngggg..." had me in stitches fr at least a half hour. Not only are they socially and politically aware but the ability to make something verbally so funny out of nothing shows that they are true masters. Fantastic!

  • April 8, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Looked Like A Fair Parody...

    by flamingrunt

    Maybe Matt and Trey are big family guy fans who like everyeone else, are fed up with the repetition and unoriginality of the new series

  • April 8, 2006, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Argure all you want.

    by Shaz_bot80

    You can bitch about Family Guy, South Park and The Simpsons all you want. We all know that Wonder Showzen kicks ass above all of these shows. AND Peter Griffin is a rip-off of Homer Simpson.

  • April 8, 2006, 4:19 a.m. CST

    And be sure to leave typos.

    by Shaz_bot80

    So that you can be made to look like a jackass on the aint it cool backtalk. I gotta proof read before I post.

  • April 8, 2006, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I wasnt gonna post til someone said

    by misnomer

    south park is a "biting, intelligent satire." "theres a satellite coming out of my butt." or "tom cruise get out of the closet." heheh thats so funny this case the closet was literal and ppl might think tom cruise is a homosexual. hahah..he might be into bum sex *snigger* I dont particularly hate south park but family guy wipes the floor with it in terms of laughs. and both are as equally silly. But of course the simpsons rules all.

  • April 8, 2006, 6:03 p.m. CST

    birdy birdman you&#39;re wrong

    by Pksoze22

    Matt & Trey Parker have never mentioned their politics, but they&#39;re not liberals. Their politics are very libertarian oriented.

  • April 8, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST


    by Razz Matazz

    Trey and Matt are not liberal. They are Libertarians. There is a BIG difference.

  • April 9, 2006, 10:30 a.m. CST

    the southpark episode was pretty dumb

    by shalashaska

    they could have done alot better of a job making fun of family guy

  • April 9, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser!....

    by Shermdawg

    Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow! Right in the kisser! Pow...

  • April 10, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    South Park and Simpsons died years ago

    by lobot72

    South Park and the Simpsons lost their luster years ago. South Park has worn out any shock value it had in the first 3 seasons and Simpson stopped being funny back in the mid 90&#39;s, there is no humor left in that series. Simpsons should have been cancelled instead of way better Futurama.

  • April 11, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Drawn Together is Sucks!

    by killdeer2

    Seriously, it seems any show now on cable can just pile on the bi/lesbian/gay sex "humor" and be called "groundbreaking" or "pushing the envelope". Make it an animated show and it gets even more critical "creed". Drawn Together is hamfisted, vulgar fucking garbage. I&#39;m all for envelope-pushing humor. I&#39;m just a picky bastard who actually likes it to be, you know, funny. There is one animated show out there that earns its laughs every episode and its name is SOUTH PARK! Family Guy sucks donkey cocks too.