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#47 3/22/05 #4

The Pull List
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BLUE BEETLE #1
DAREDEVIL #83
MANHUNTER #20
ARES #3
HAWKGIRL #50
Big Eyes for the Cape Guy presents SCARY BOOK V.1: REFLECTIONS
Indie Jones presents…
CHEAP SHOTS!
Casting Couch: EX MACHINA

BLUE BEETLE #1

Writers: Keith Giffen and John Rogers
Artist: Cully Hamner
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Sleazy G

BLUE BEETLE is the first ongoing title to spin out of the INFINITE CRISIS hoo-ha at DC. It’s also the one most likely to face some resistance from the fans considering the outcry when the previous holder of the name, Ted Kord, bit it hard to kick off IC. A lot of us really started to care about Ted after the way he was developed over in BIRDS OF PREY, or from his old “wacky hijinks” days in the JLA, and took the guy getting domed a bit hard. Still, knowing Beetle is a legacy character and Ted wasn’t the original mitigated things a bit, so I figured I’d give the new kid a chance. I decided to read it like it was a first issue for a brand new character (which technically it is), setting aside any Kord-related issues.

So how did it turn out? Pretty well, actually. This issue has pretty much everything you want out of a comic book: action, drama, mystery, and some light-hearted stuff to cut the tension once in a while. It moves along at a steady clip instead of getting too bogged down in one place, and it’s a dense read—there’s a lot to take in here. The issue is the first One Year Later title to cut between the present day and the events just before or during IC, and it’s definitely to the book’s benefit. The issue starts with Guy Gardner trying to kick the crap outta Blue Beetle in the middle of the desert. (Sidebar: I’m sad to report that even in the exciting unknown that is One Year Later, Guy still dresses like a complete fucking moron, making him typically come off as more dumbass than badass.) A couple of interesting discoveries are made along the way: Gardner finds out the new Blue Beetle is just a high school kid while our new protagonist, Jaime, learns a bit more about what he’s capable of now that he’s taken possession of the Blue Beetle Scarab…or, y’know, it’s taken possession of him, which is what it seems more like. Periodically, we get breaks in the action and catch glimpses of Jaime as he first discovers the scarab, takes it home with him, and ends up having it crawl inside him, burying itself along his upper spine right between his shoulder blades (ick!).

The scenes where we cut to a year ago and get to meet Jaime’s family and friends are deftly handled. Refreshingly enough, his two best friends, his parents and his sister seem completely normal: a bunch of average, middle-class, hardworking people who get along well and genuinely care about each other—something we don’t see enough of in comic books any more. These scenes are a nice counterpoint to the rest of the issue. We all know it’s tough being a teenager, so I’m sure these scenes won’t always be this upbeat, but I really hope Giffen and Rogers go for a decent balance of the good and bad here, because the scenes really do a great job of making the characters feel three-dimensional instead of serving as placeholder characters. The stuff with Gardner is great, too. We see Jaime discover a couple of new abilities, we see him brought to tears because he’s scared crapless at the thought of a Green Lantern beating on him, and we see Guy freak when he suddenly realizes how young—and oddly powered--the new Beetle is. We also learn the new Blue Beetle helped take down OMAC some time over the last year. That’s not as positive a thing as it sounds, though, as it appears as if the heroes we’re already familiar with all want to knock the tar outta this poor kid. That’s a huge mystery to throw our way, and it’s not the only one we see in this issue, so Giffen and Rogers are definitely laying a lot of groundwork for the first year or two of the series.

Last week I gave a less than positive review to Keith Giffen’s ANNIHILATION PROLOGUE. This issue stands as a clear indicator that Giffen is still capable of great stuff and just happens to miss now and again, just like the rest of us. The smaller cast in BLUE BEETLE allows for more time to get to know and care about the characters, the action is at a more personal level, and the dialogue rings more true. Perhaps it’s simply a matter of Giffen working better with a co-writer, something he’s done for years. If that’s the case, Rogers seems like a good match for Giffen. There are moments where John Rogers’ sensibilities can definitely be felt in the pacing and conversation, and there’s no question it adds to the experience. I think I initially felt the same trepidation as a lot of fans out there, but this issue convinced me the character and title have a lot of potential. If Giffen and Rogers can continue to do this well at meshing their ideas and approaches, the new Blue Beetle is in good hands. Give the first issue a shot and you’ll be pleasantly surprised.


DAREDEVIL # 83

Written by: Ed Brubaker
Pencilled by: Michael Lark
Published by: Marvel Comics
Reviewed by: superhero



This review contains major spoilers. It you haven’t read this issue yet, read no further.




Seriously, now’s your chance. Turn away now if you don’t want stuff spoiled.




OK, it’s your funeral. Here goes…

Foggy Nelson’s dead.

All right, so maybe it wasn’t that big of a spoiler. So what if we all knew it was coming. So what if the writing was on the wall for our dear, beloved Foggy several months ago.

That doesn’t mean this issue didn’t kick all kinds of ass.

What’s truly amazing to me is how writer Ed Brubaker has provided more thrills in just two issues than a whole arc of Bendis’ stuff. Brubaker’s pacing is spot on and the story moves at a breathtaking clip. The dialogue is tight, interesting, and to the point. The story never wanders off or loses its focus. Brubaker’s particular skill is that his writing comes across as so confident and direct so that I, as a reader, actually feel as if I’m in good hands here. I feel as if this comic is being put together by a writer who’s not trying to just cheat me with a cheap stunt tactic, but instead bringing me a well thought out story of which the cheap stunt tactic is but a small part.

But let’s face it, killing Foggy is a cheap stunt. The thing is, however, that bringing Bucky back to life in the pages of CAPTAIN AMERICA was a cheap stunt as well, but Brubaker pulled it off beautifully. This is possibly why I have such faith in Brubaker in the pages of DAREDEVIL. Because he’s pulled off the crass comic stunt before and made it come off smelling like a rose. I admit, as a longtime fan of these characters, I should probably be more pissed off about the death of Foggy. Just as I should have been more upset with the resurrection of Bucky. But at this point, I think superhero comics have made me completely desensitized to the whole death and re-birth trend in comics that started with the resurrection of Jean Grey all those years ago. Besides, who’s to say that another writer in five, ten, or fifteen years doesn’t write a story that explains that Foggy wasn’t really killed but actually survived the attack and was placed into some ultra secret witness protection program? It could happen. You know it and I know it. Which is why the death of Foggy just made me shrug instead of it having any real emotional impact on me.

What makes the death of Foggy as a device so interesting in this issue is how much it ends up affecting the main character. Once Matt Murdock learns of the death of his longtime legal partner and friend all bets are off. Murdock actually relishes the chance to get into the general prison population to extract his vengeance on those who’ve done him wrong and I got the sense that ol’ hornhead’s finally lost it. Obviously, the criminals want to get their shot at DD, but as the old adage goes, “Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.” In this issue it’s the Owl who gets it first and it sure isn’t pretty. After the Owl gets his petard handed to him I got the sense that it’s not Daredevil who’s locked in with them but the other way around.

What’s truly magnificent in this issue is that I felt that Brubaker actually gets Daredevil as a character. He knows his history and his motivations. The core dichotomy of Daredevil has always been his struggle to balance his civilized side with his more primal and brutal crime fighting side. Brubaker and artist Lark provide two beautiful pages of story that address this struggle that Matt Murdock deals with every day and how, thanks to the death of his best friend, the civilized Matt is losing the fight to stay in control. In two pages, Brubaker and Lark lay out what makes Daredevil as a character special and how that quality is being eroded by the losses he’s faced during his life as a vigilante. It was a beautiful sequence that really just got to me as a longtime fan of the character.

What it seems like we’ll be getting in the next few months is the HBO show OZ by way of the comic DAREDEVIL and it looks like it’s going to be some powerful stuff if this issue and the one that preceded it are any indication. Brubaker continually proves to me that he’s one of the best writers out there and I wasn’t even aware of his work until his run with the star spangled Avenger. From now on, though, he’s going to be a writer I keep a lookout for because his stuff is really, really compelling. He’s pulling off the Daredevil in jail thing better than I could have expected and it’s a story that I’m enjoying immensely. And that actually surprises the hell out of me especially since I was so disappointed with the end of Bendis’ run that I was planning on dropping DAREDEVIL altogether after years of enjoying DD’s adventures. Brubaker managed to keep me interested and not only that, he’s managed to give me the crime/superhero comic I’ve wanted DAREDEVIL to be all these years. For that I’m thankful and I hope Brubaker stays on the book for a long time to come.


MANHUNTER #20

Writer: Marc Andreyko
Penciler: Javier Pina
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewed by Humphrey Lee

It's One Year Later and yet MANHUNTER is still trucking along just fine. Unlike a lot of the OYL books this book actually hits the ground running and starts progressing with new and old storylines immediately. My main complaint about the majority of the OYL books I've read is that they've either been way too vague as to where the title stands in their new status quo (both the BATMAN titles we've seen), or that they've spent their first issue OYL doing a slow build to introduce a plot "twist" we've known has been coming for months (GREEN ARROW is mayor, CATWOMAN is pregnant, yadda yadda). But I think MANHUNTER has been the best of all these titles so far because it took the smart approach to not only using the jump ahead to create some new floating plotlines but it used that gap to go ahead and advance some of the peripheral aspects of the book to their natural progression, only without drawing it out over an actual year.

This issue starts off immediately with an example of what I meant by that last statement as we see that apparently two of my favorite supporting characters in a comic today, Cameron Chase and Dylan the Tech Wonder, have started hooking up. If you've been reading the book up until this point you know what I mean when I say I always felt that Dylan was gonna have his moment at some point, but it always felt like he'd be getting in our main character Kate's pants in some sort of sick and twisted turn of events. But this works just as well, and I don't feel in anyway ripped off that I didn't see the actual progression of it, because while it's a very fun moment to take in, it's something I doubt would have been the most riveting of material to watch unfold. And that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about and we get a couple more moments like this throughout the book. We see that Kate's ex-husband has found himself a new woman, and has gotten her pregnant to boot, we see that Todd Rice is back in action as Obsidian and is still gay and proud and seeing Kate's co-worker from her law firm, and stuff like that. Plot points that give you a bunch of "oh neat" exclamations, but also fill in more of the overall tapestry that is the world of MANHUNTER. And they make great points to flesh out in the future, and raise the "potential drama" bar a good bit as well.

Another great thing to view in this is how Kate herself has grown. We knew it was only a matter of time before Kate become more skilled in her nighttime profession, and more confident in herself as she continues the good fight. And here it is. And again, I don't feel ripped off that we didn't see this progression as we only knew it was a matter of time before we got there. In fact, it's great to see that she's gone from questioning herself in the heat of battle with guys that are C-list villains at best to now disposing of them like there were more an inconvenience than anything and wanting to take on guys of a higher caliber.

And yes, Andreyko does take the opportunity to use the OYL setup to have Kate reflect on some of the bad stuff that has gone down in DC's missing year. But unlike most of the OYL books where that missing year is just referenced in passing with casual lines of dialogue, we at least get some flashback scenes to give us a little bit of hint, and some abject horror over them coming straight from Kate herself. Is that Doomsday's silhouette we see there behind Dr. Psycho? Interesting... And it sets up that last panel very nicely even though by then it's obvious where we're going with the book by then.

Also, it's One Year Later and Javier Pina is knocking it out of the park with the art chores on this book. When Jesus Saiz left this book for bigger things I was disappointed because glancing over his interiors was one of the main factors in my deciding to try this book in the first place. But Pina picked up the ball and immediately was giving good effort from the start. But now at just a little under a year drawing this book it seems like everything has slid into place much better with his art. Minor hiccups that I would notice before in the facial expressions and action scenes just don't seem to be there anymore, or happening so infrequently that I don't notice. And I'll be damned if that isn't a fine rendition of Obsidian by the man in this book. I haven't seen a version of him looking this impressive since he was last seen in JSA under Stephen Sadowski's pencil. And that's saying something.

I don't know what more I can say about this book and how great it is. It's got one of most intriguing superheroes I've seen in a long while who is backed by one of my favorite supporting casts in a comic book today. The art is great and the stories are very interesting and progressive. The dialogue is very realistic and oft-times humorous. And it's OYL so here we have a great jumping on point for new readers. So just buy it already. Because this is like the fifth time I've reviewed this book here and I'm running out of praise to throw around. Go! Now! Hurry! Sheesh...


ARES #3

Writer: Michael Oeming
Pencils: Travel Foreman
Inks: Derek Fridolfs
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: Ambush Bug

Cool. It’s one of those words that I try to shy away from while writing reviews. It’s one of those vague qualifiers that really doesn’t say much, but sounds like you’re saying a lot. But every now and then something comes along and the only thing you can do is smile and mutter “cool.” under your breath. This doesn’t happen often while I read comics. Some say that to be truly cool (too cool for the room, to cool for school, et al) is to say that nothing is cool. And if that is the case, then I guess I’m not cool, because I’m about to deem something cool. Damn cool, to be exact. But if saying something is cool is uncool, then call me uncool, because I think with ARES one of the few words to describe this comic miniseries is…cool.

Cool?

cool.

OK, I’ll elaborate.

COOL SPOILER FOR THE SHEER SAKE OF COOLNESS!

There’s a scene in ARES #3 that is so damn cool, I have to spoil it because after reading it, I’m sure this comic will get the recognition it deserves because this book is filled with such cool moments.

A mysterious army is invading Olympus, destroying everything in its path. Ares has exiled himself to Earth and has been trying to lead a normal life, raising his son as a single father, and trying to ignore his war-like past. In order to get Ares to help save Olympus, Zeus kidnaps Ares’ son. Ares is pissed, shaves a Mohawk into his head, loads up with his personal arsenal ranging from battle-axes to machine guns, and heads to Olympus for some serious payback. So after threatening to tear Zeus and the rest of the gods a new @$$hole, Ares realizes that the mysterious army has stolen Ares’ son Alexander for equally mysterious reasons. Ares tentatively agrees to help the Olympians beat this army, but he still vows revenge after all of this is over. Basically, Ares has been spurned by the gods. He’s looked at as a rabid dog, unfit to sit at the same table with the more civil gods. Ares won’t admit it, but he wants to be among his godly family, but his pride keeps him from doing so and his uppity family doesn’t help. Ares must now work with his family, which he despises, to reclaim the only thing he holds dear, his son.

This leads to that super cool moment that I was jazzing about earlier. As the mysterious army of warriors breaks down the walls of Olympus, Ares douses himself with flames and asks Hercules to throw him into the middle of the invading army. Herc gladly grabs his half-brother and tosses him into the fray. Engulfed in flames, Ares flies through the air, handgun in each hand John Woo-stylee, blasting his way through the army. This scene is orchestrated so well that it made me stand up and say the only word that can be used to describe it…cool!

So far, ARES has been full of moments like this. I don’t usually cover three issues in a row of a series, but this series warrants it. It has impressed me more as each issue hits the stands. It’s just getting better as it goes along. Michael Oeming has improved with leaps and bounds after his lackluster Marvel debut on THOR a few years back. With this series, Oeming has made me take notice. Travel Foreman also has to be credited for his amazing panels depicting complex action scenes and depicting the elegance and the omnipotence of the godly spectacle of Olympus. The scene in which Hercules has had enough and tosses a gigantic table at the army is yet another jaw-droppingly good scene in this issue.

Cool is the only way to describe it. ARES is the best Marvel miniseries to come out yet this year and it has raised the bar so high that I doubt anyone is going to be able to top it. Cool is cool and ARES is just that. If you haven’t picked up this mini, do so.

Cool?

cool.


HAWKGIRL #50

Writer: Walt Simonson
Artist: Howard Chaykin
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewed by Dave Farabee

If I didn’t mention the nipples first, this wouldn’t be an Ain’t-It-Cool-News review.

So, yeah, it’s apparently quite drafty in St. Roch, Louisiana. That’s what happens when Howard Chaykin draws your book – a cold front moves in, nipples get hard. I vaguely want to say, “Stop it, Howie, you sexist old bastard!”, but it’s just one of those things, isn’t it? McFarlane draws a comic, you’re gonna get giant, squiggly capes. Paul Pope draws a comic, everyone’s gonna have big ol’ lips. Howard Chaykin draws a comic…

Hottie-meter goes into redline.

I’ll tell you what’s cool about Chaykin’s women, though: their glam doesn’t look like all the traced-from-SPORTS-ILLUSTRATED-and-PLAYBOY pin-ups you see in a lot of comics. Chaykin knows that the right clothes can be as sexy as no clothes at all, and when Hawkgirl’s not in her nipply costume – okay, it is a little obnoxious – Chaykin gives what I can only describe as lipstick lesbian glamour in her role as the head of St. Roch’s Stonechat Museum. She’s got a short, slightly butch haircut (think Jamie Lee Curtis in TRUE LIES) and wears a leather jacket with some big, 80s shoulder pads…but when she’s in the museum she’s sportin’ tight capri pants, those lacy tops Chaykin’s so good at rendering, and black stiletto pumps. It’s seems an odd fit with the decidedly old-school writing tendencies of Walt Simonson, at least until you remember how he drew the Enchantress and Lorelei on his revered THOR run. And hey, Chaykin’s guys are all pretty well-dressed studs as counterpoint - less nipply, but well-dressed. I tend to like the physicality behind it all. Former lead Hawkman always flew around bare-chested and brawny, so the Hawks are no stranger to showing off their figures.

Now…the story.

Like all the other “One Year Later” issues debuting this month from DC, HAWKGIRL catapults everything a year past the INFINITE CRISIS crossover to make some notable changes. The biggest, of course, is that Hawkgirl Kendra Saunders has usurped the title from Hawkman. One presumes at least part of the decision was borne out of a desire to play off Hawkgirl’s prominence on the JUSTICE LEAGUE cartoons, but whatever the reason, Hawkgirl’s got the spotlight. Seems Hawkman has been missing for most of the mystery year, and while Kendra’s been having odd dreams about him, she’s also moved on. She’s the administrator of the museum from which the pair used to operate, and it’s out with the reincarnation and destined-love motifs they used to share, in with Kendra as go-getting mystery-solver.

The absolute first thing any modern reader will notice is that the writing has a retro-flavor. Not deliberate retro, mind – it’s just the effect of having a writer like Simonson onboard, a guy who cut his teeth on writing comics in the 70s and 80s. Note Kendra actually speaking aloud to herself at times, the use of expository thought balloons, or even an action sequence where Kendra has time to exchange a few words with a guy…while pushing him out of the way of a falling chunk of building. Even the rapid-fire pacing speaks to an older era of plot-driven stories over character-driven stories.

Net result: you’re either going to smile and roll with it because you have a fondness for such stuff or find it hopelessly outdated.

I smiled and rolled with it.

Short version of the plot: something creepy’s up at the museum. Kendra’s clean-up work on the museum in the wake of hurricane damage (a current-events nod to Katrina, no doubt) has uncovered some troubling clippings left behind by the museum’s curator in the 30s. Factor in her strange dreams, some suspicious near-accidents, and the revelation that the cops have been covering up a string of poverty row murderers with cult-like ties…yep, sounds like something’s up.

Simonson portrays Kendra herself as capable and adventurous. It’s mentioned that the museum’s prospered under her administration, and she also seems to’ve been broadening her knowledge horizon (“…archeology benefits from the fine art of cross-discipline investigation. I’ve been doing a lot of reading.”). Interestingly, she’s still not a pure solo hero with Hawkman gone, being backed by Danny Evans, the son of the museum owner. It’s almost a flip of gender expectations, with her playing the heroic Indiana Jones to his Marion Ravenwood supporting role, and superhero comics are still whitebread enough that it’s nice to see a handsome, intelligent black character in a major role. Can’t tell whether the two are destined for romance, but at the very least, some pretty close-knit tomb raiding.

Speaking of all things Indy Jones, it’s interesting to see Simonson name-dropping a few movies in the story. Kendra explicitly mentions Indy when she talks Danny into exploring a hidden vault beneath the museum. Also referenced are PSYCHO and GOLDFINGER (“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”) Is this some kind of pop undercurrent intended as a recurring element for the book? Maybe. I kind of liked it.

The book’s downsides are pretty minor if you can roll with the basic conceits of Simonson’s old-school writing. Sometimes scenes will surge forward rather abruptly. Chaykin’s characters too often seem to be gritting their teeth or spitting out their lines with melodramatic verve. And while I liked the visuals on the overlay of documents that Kendra digs up (Simonson’s books always have great typography), I actually had trouble reading ‘em to see the link that seemed so obvious to Kendra. She says, “They’re pretty much all about the same thing,” but I couldn’t tell what that thing was beyond some sort of savage murders. She remarks that maybe it inspired her nightmare, but her nightmare had flying, skeletal men (very creepy looking, by the way), which is a lot more specific than anything I gleaned from the clippings.

As of the first issue, I’d say I’m enjoying the relaunch more for Chaykin’s textured, sexied-up pulp art than Simonson’s writing. The writing’s fine for its approach, and packs a few inspired moments, but Simonson’s still gonna need some new twists to make it stand out. It’s very approachable, though, so I’d recommend it for anyone with a passing interest in the Hawks – even if it’s just on a visual level.


SCARY BOOK V.1: REFLECTIONS

Creator: Kazuo Umezu
Publisher: Dark Horse
Reviewer: Dan Grendell

"Stop!! Why are you doing this to me?!"

“Why? The reason is simple... Because I despise you!"

Kazuo Umezu is a big name in the horror manga world. He's one of the early founders of that tradition, one based more on what is psychologically disturbing and actually creepy than on what is gory or what shocks people. Interestingly enough, he's also well-known for his humor and romance manga - the man has depth. Until recently, most of his horror stuff was just plain unavailable in the West. Luckily, Dark Horse has seen the interest people have for movies like THE RING and THE GRUDGE, and decided that more horror manga is a good thing.

SCARY BOOK V.1 reprints two of Umezu's short horror stories, The Mirror and Demon of Vengeance. The Mirror is a classic example of Japanese horror, telling the tale of a vain girl who looks in a large mirror every day until her reflection comes out of it and replaces her in her life. The reflection doesn't stop there, though - it tries to drive her mad by convincing her that she was in fact never beautiful ("You think you're beautiful, but have you actually ever seen yourself? Every time you looked in the mirror, it was me you saw...! I'm the beautiful one...!") and convincing everyone she knows that the real girl is a crazy stalker. This seems pretty straightforward, but then the school nerd, who has a crush on her, enters the picture with his energetic little sister, adding some comedy, and she discovers the secret of the mirror girl, and it takes a complete left turn. The story meanders some, and takes a bit too long to get where it is going, but the basic premise holds it together. It really can be a disturbing thought - how can you be sure what you really look like, since you only see your face in pictures, reflections, and maybe video? What if that really is someone else? Bizarre.

The second story isn't so much a horror tale but it is disturbing nonetheless. Set in feudal Japan, a samurai and his son care for their lord's boy while the castle is under siege. The boy is a horrible guest and treats them like slaves and toys, acting like a brat until the samurai snaps and hits him, accidentally cutting him. In revenge, the lord declares that the samurai have his arms cut off and be thrown in prison, and the samurai's son be made to serve the lord's son, with every wound to the master being made to the servant. When news of the lord's son being killed in battle arrives, the samurai's son is killed as well, and the samurai goes berserk, until his legs are also removed, and he is left to die. Then comes word that the lord's son is actually alive - and the samurai, saved by a friend from prison, prepares his final vengeance. The depths to which people are willing to go to get their vengeance, both the lord and the samurai, are incredible, and beg the question - is vengeance really useful? Given the ending of the story, the answer is in doubt.

Umezu's art works very well with the subject matter (preview here), as his characters are realistic but thin, making them look somewhat gaunt and creepy. Faces are large and wide to show emotion with wide eyes, overlarge for the head, again giving the people a creepy look. He uses shadows well on faces, often shadowing half of a face and giving it a strange look or hatching just the eyes and forehead to great effect, but always careful about light placement. Auras around the head in close-ups help convey the mood as well, as does the use of dark hair to frame the pale faces. The art changes for the second story to a stronger, more action-oriented style, but it's a good switch, fitting to the tale being told.

It's good to see Kazuo Umezu getting a release in the West. There is some great horror manga available now, but the early classics shouldn't be forgotten either.


THE DEVIL’S PANTIES #1
Jennie Breeden: Creator
Silent Devil

For some strange reason, I always find it hilarious when an online comic sees print. A comic you can read for free is now going to cost you cover price. But still, most of the time it’s worth it. The big daddy of these, of course, is PVP, which has been in print from Image for years now. Dark Horse also recently put out a comic of Penny Arcade. And now there’s The Devil’s Panties, which despite its title has a total lack of devils wearing panties. Now that’s just blatant false advertising.

What it does have, however, is some pretty damn funny semi-biographical stories about a young lady who loves clubbing and comics in equal measure. Plus, for those of you who’ve read the online version, the early strips shown here have been completely redrawn. Purely from an artistic standpoint, this makes it a heck of a lot of fun to go back and forth from the comic to the web, looking at just how the artwork has changed and grown over the years.

The only real concern with a book like this though, is does it make with the funny? Well, yes it does. Just go to the strip’s website and see for yourself. Now, is it worth paying almost five bucks per issue for something you can already read for free? Personally, I’ll have no problem spending my money on a print version, especially if an upcoming issue is devoted solely to strips involving Jennie unleashed at a comic con. Those are comedy gold.

In any case, remember that this strip is still online, so you can try before you buy. Me, I enjoy it enough that I’ve got no problem buying. - Vroom Socko

ZOMBIE TALES: THE DEAD #1
BOOM! Studios

Another great issue filled with interesting takes on the zombie genre. From a view of the zombie menace from behind the Vatican walls to a tale of animals banding together against the “savage” human zombies, this compilation series never fails to entertain. If you don’t like one take, there’s always another just a few pages away. This issue’s standout stories: Keith Giffen and Ron Lim’s “Deadest Meat” where a lone zombie struggles to maintain his humanity and the aforementioned tale by Johanna Stokes and Cynthia Martin where the animals of a zoo are forced to work together against the zombie menace. The zombie genre is one with limitless possibilities and ZOMBIE TALES tests those limits with every single issue. Highly recommended for those with good taste in stories and human flesh. - Ambush Bug

SUPERMARKET #2
IDW Publishing

Since I found the first issue of this book very interesting, I felt it was worth following up with a review of the second. Also, I figure this is for the best since I'm sure a lot of readers are still somewhat timid about a $4 comic book even with a solid first issue under its belt. Well my friends, I'm glad to say this issue is just as good as the last, if not a little better. While I thought issue one was a great introduction to our main character Pella and carried some great dramatic weight over the death of her parents, this issue is great because it's pretty damned funny. The issue starts with us getting some of the lowdown as to why Pella's parents were murdered in the first issue, and then leads to one of the most surreal chase sequences I've ever seen in a comic as Pella is chased down by members of the Yakuza thru the cityscape and into the Subways where they are met with some resistance... resistance in the form of hot ass Swedish Porn Stars!! With guns!! And it works!! ...oh yea does it work. And also with this issue, Kristian has become one of my favorite artists in comics today. With the first issue he showed me a great attention to detail with his settings, and some great emotional range with the character expressions. This issue he showed me all that and just some genuine badassery in a beautifully illustrated chase sequence and then gunfight. Again, the art alone is worth the price of admission. It just also helps that this book is a genuinely "fun as hell" read to boot. - Humphrey Lee

GRAY HORSES
Hope Larson: Creator
ONI Press

If GRAY HORSES as a whole doesn’t quite live up to the sum of its parts, it can easily be forgiven. Its story of a French exchange student finding friendship and adventure in her new city reads like the typical Oni story, which is another way of saying we’ve seen this before many a time. It’s not a bad story by any means, but it’s just a little too familiar. What’s interesting, though, is that this familiarity frees up the focus of the reader to look at all the other little touches Hope Larson brings to this book.

It’s in those touches that this book really shines.

Photography is a strong element in the story, and Larson plays off on this by using rolls of film next to the old school exposure window as a page count; every 24 pages another roll of film is added to the bottom as the number resets. I just found that charming.

And then there’s the artwork, both in the main story and in the dreams of main character Noémie. Even the main story has a dream-like quality to it that can only be described as enchanting. And the dream moments are absolutely poetic, reminiscent of elements from such artists as Eric Drooker and Craig Thompson. Where the book feels familiar as a story, it stands out as an artistic poem. The ending, which ties both the dream world and real world together, certainly plays out like poetry.

Is this a must read? Not quite. But it’s damn beautiful to look at. And it’s put Hope Larson’s name on my radar. Whatever her next project may be, it’s going to be worth taking a look at. - Vroom Socko

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ROBIN #148
DC Comics

I’m digging Robin’s new red threads and spikey cape. It’s a nice re-design with shades of Ross’ Red Robin character from KINGDOM COME. And the mystery set-up in this issue was pretty well done too. Having followed this ROBIN series from the beginning, I’ve been through the good (Chuck Dixon’s hundred plus issues) and the bad (Willingham’s misfire in the last year), and this One Year Later issue seems to be starting out on the right foot. I’m interested to find out about who is trying to frame Robin for murder and exactly what went on while Batman, Nightwing, and Robin were in Budapest. The tidbits dropped in this issue hooked me. Add in a pretty well done action scene in the beginning and this is one of the better OYL first issues so far. - Bug

NEXTWAVE #3
Marvel Comics

*ahem* Second Verse, same as the first...

NEXTWAVE is so good that I pimp-slapped my mother until she forked over the money to buy a dozen more copies...then I pimp-slapped her again for good measure.

NEXTWAVE is so good that it took your virginity just by having read its name. And don't play that "I'm not a virgin!" card. Because NEXTWAVE just went back in time and killed everyone you've ever had sex with before you did it with them. SO THERE!

NEXTWAVE is so devastating that a mere whisper of its name will make the genitalia of anyone within earshot explode. NEXTWAVE encourages you to go out and spread the word.

NEXTWAVE is so malevolent that it has mutilated more cattle than anthrax...it dislikes the way they go MOO.

NEXTWAVE is so awesome that it can impregnate anyone with a glance. And I mean anyone! But good news for you, it would rather lay you down and make sweet loving to you like you've never been made sweet love to before. And then NEXTWAVE will never call you again...because you were a lousy lay and are too needy. Cry for NEXTWAVE!

NEXTWAVE is so awesome that even the mighty Bill Brasky let NEXTWAVE have sex with his wife in the front of a Baptist Church. To NEXTWAVE!! - Humphrey

NEW AVENGERS #17
Marvel Comics

Another missed-adventure of Brian Michael Bendis’ Inactive Avengers. In this inane issue, the Avengers venture into an impoverished neighborhood besieged by crime and just stand there. Then Luke “Doin’ Da Butt” Cage goes out of his way to describe the methodology behind “just standing there.” Apparently, the team is supposed to come into a neighborhood and their mere presence is supposed to be a kind of pro-active stance to stop crime. Sounds like an appropriate use of the Marvel’s mightiest heroes’ abilities, right? Yet another notch on the bedpost as Bendis fucks Marvel’s heroes into complete ineptitude by having them avoid any and all forms of action at every turn. To add insult to injury, with one distress call from SHIELD, this entire “pro-active” and “revolutionary” operation is scrapped because the cosmic menace that wiped out Alpha Flight in one breath last issue gets closer to the American border. “We were in the middle of cleaning up your neighborhood, kiddies, but Generic Glowing Man #54 takes precedence. Good luck with that whole crack and rape thing you guys have going on here. TTFN!” Awful, awful issue. Tack on the fact that, after the cosmic menace destroyed Alpha Flight and everything else in its path, Iron Man chooses to try to negotiate with the alien being and then add in a conversation where one of the heroes literally won’t get out of bed to join the fight and you have proof positive that while this may be one of the most recognizable line-ups, it is by far the weakest team of heroes ever to call themselves the Avengers (and weakly written, to boot). Oh, and let’s not forget the panel where Wolverine, a former member of Alpha Flight, sees that Alpha Flight has been decimated by the cosmic menace and asks, “Is that Alpha Flight?” as if he’s never met them before. Did I mention that this was a bad issue? - Bug

ACTION COMICS #837
DC Comics

I’ve never really bought Superman titles for any length of time. I’ve tried to sample them here and there, but always end up bored. The first two issues of this OYL storyline, though, have caught my attention. Maybe long-time readers will feel they’ve seen a de-powered Clark Kent before, or won’t care for the look of Metallo. I can’t speak to that stuff, because I’m not one of them. What I do know is that as somebody who doesn’t usually read these titles, these issues are the first time I’ve found a Superman storyline interesting in the last coupla decades, which is saying something. There are shake-ups all over the place, from Clark’s new focus on his reporting career to Lex’s fall from power to some updated villains. There’s also a scene where Hawkgirl and Hal Jordan show up to help Clark that ends in a final page that made me smile enough to make me want to be back for the next issue—which, after all, is the point of the OYL stuff, right? Sleazy

SQUADRON SUPREME #1
Marvel Comics

Well, the first issue of this SUPREME POWER re-launch is upon us. I was wondering if the move from Marvel Max to Marvel would neuter this book. And although there is an abundant lack of blood and boobies, the sophisticated level of storytelling is still here. With SUPREME POWER, J M Straczynski did a great job of telling each character’s individual stories, only having them graze one another occasionally as the plot advanced. In this issue, we get more of the same, where each member is profiled by those putting this government sponsored super-team together. Only the last panel shows this team intact. Now that all of the pieces are in place, I’m looking forward to seeing how JMS and Gary Frank (who provides some stellarly detailed art) are going to play this one out. Those who followed the old series won’t be disappointed and this issue’s a good introductory issue for those who didn’t. - Bug


Let’s face it. It’s fanboy-ish, but fun. Casting real life actors in comic book roles is something comics fans have been doing for years. Every now and then, as I read a comic, I visualize how this would look on the big screen and I imagine just who would be the perfect casting choice for that certain hero or villain. Haters, take leave. This is where a fanboy and girl can be just that. Howdy, folks.
Ambush Bug here and once again I’ve got the casting bug. This time, I’m making room on the couch for one of the smartest comics on the racks…
Be sure to click on the pics for larger images. Last summer, the news hit that EX MACHINA is being prepped to be adapted to film by New Line Cinema. Since then, I haven’t heard much regarding the adaptation, but since V FOR VENDETTA was such a politically charged comics film and looks to be a pretty successful one, one would think that the powers that be would want to cash in on another comic thriller with sophisticated themes.

EX MACHINA tells the tale of Mayor Mitchell Hundred, a civil engineer who becomes the world’s first super-hero after a strange encounter with alien technology. Now Hundred has the power to communicate with machines and control them. As the Great Machine, he tried to use these powers for good, but it turns out that he’s not cut out for the super hero biz. After saving one of the Twin Towers on 9/11, Hundred retires from super-heroism and runs for Mayor of New York City. Winning by a landslide, Hundred finds that politics is much more challenging than super-heroing ever was. Tackling tough issues such as gay marriage, jury duty, anti-war protests, and legalization of marijuana, EX MACHINA wouldn’t be so much of a super-hero film. Rather, it would be a smart film set in a universe not unlike our own world where one man tries his hardest to make the world a better place through politics and personal conviction. You would need an actor who doesn’t really look like he would be a super-hero for this role. One who could be charming and funny. Someone with modesty, not afraid to put his foot into his mouth. Mr. FERRIS BEULLER himself, Matthew Broderick, is about the right age to play this part. He’s a great actor. You could believe this humble guy wasn’t able to hack it as a super hero, but you’d still end up cheering him on in the end.

Hundred’s dedicated security chief, Rick Bradbury, tries his hardest to keep his boss out of trouble. He’s not the brightest bulb in the batch, but he completely believes in what Hundred is doing and would do anything to protect him. Actor Michael Rooker (HENRY PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER) played the ever-ready sidekick to Kevin Costner’s Jim Garrison in JFK. Every time I see that movie, I think of Bradbury.

Kremlin is the closest thing Hundred has to a father. He’s the crusty @$$-kicker who works at Coney Island and helped Hundred during his super-hero days. Kremlin is disappointed that Hundred dropped the Great Machine persona in favor of working for “The Man” in politics. He is constantly at odds with Bradbury, who supports Hundred’s cause. Kremlin and Bradbury are the devil and angel on Mitchell Hundred’s shoulders and provide some of the comic’s best bickerings by representing two sides of the political coin. Wizened actor extraordinaire Jeremy Irons (LOLITA, DAMAGE, DEAD RINGERS) would be great as this crotchety old hermit.

Dave Wylie is Hundred’s Deputy Mayor. He’s been in politics for a while and helps guide Hundred on all political matters. He helps keep Hundred’s @$$ out of the fire by understanding how politics can work for and against you. CSI actor Gary Dourdan (ALIEN: RESURRECTION) used to have a head full of dreadlocks and he ain’t a bad actor to boot.

Rounding out the cast is Journal Moore, the spirited young intern with big ideas. Hundred is so impressed with this kid’s spunkiness that he promotes her to the esteemed position of Special Advisor on Youth Affairs. Now a part of his political team, this headstrong hottie isn’t afraid to stand up for what she believes in. There isn’t a cuter actress around than Zooey Deschanel (ELF, THE HITCHHIKER’S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY). She’s spunky enough to play this part.

Politics is the challenge in this flick, not bad guys. This one isn’t about spandex and capes. It’s about the political hurdles politicians have to go through to get the job done. Doesn’t sound like your typical comic book movie, but EX MACHINA isn’t your typical comic book. So there’s my EX MACHINA casting picks. Self-indulgent? Yup, but a lot of fun to put together nonetheless. Now it’s time for you all to agree, disagree, or form your own dream cast in the Talkbacks. Who knows? Hollywood may have their ears open. I know every @$$hole in the Talkbacks has an opinion or three. Let’s hear them.

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  • March 29, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    first

    by clintrockremix

    rocking comics

  • March 29, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    First...

    by green_lantern01

    I cant wait for the Ex Machina Movie! Its a good comic, with some really great characters! i just hope it doesn't suck!

  • March 29, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST

    damn...

    by green_lantern01

    my first talkback, and i almost nailed first :(

  • March 29, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST

    ya know! been waiting

    by clintrockremix

    I've been reading this site for like.. years... since i read about it in entertainment weekly back in 98 or so... anyway.. I've been waiting for blue beetle a long time... and i used to think that "first" posts were stupid... cause i could never GET one... finally... now that i have...i'll go back to thinking they are stupid again heh. but my GOD the satisfaction.

  • March 29, 2006, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Sorry green_lantern01

    by clintrockremix

    My apologizes. I'll share it with you since you missed it by a few seconds.

  • March 29, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    me thinks....

    by green_lantern01

    That sharing first works for me! Thanks... I have been to the comic store in a while, i think the last book i picked up was Ultimates 9...but i may need to pick up Beetle, Countdown was a well written book, that had a brutal, but workable sendoff for a character i loved...

  • March 29, 2006, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I was there Saturday

    by clintrockremix

    I bought $120 worth of comics... shouldn't have... but I had to catch up on a few series. Kills me but I had to buy two graphic novels and a bunch of singles. I often say a drug habit might be cheaper hahaha... less rewarding though.

  • March 29, 2006, 11:47 a.m. CST

    first

    by Gus Nukem

    gotcha!

  • March 29, 2006, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Zoey Deschanel should be in everything

    by MrBoinfoint

    She should have been Lois Lane, dammit! But being in everything else would be fine, too.

  • March 29, 2006, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Greg Land insult

    by AlgertMopper

    Nice Greg Land kidney punch in the Hawk Girl review. Mother Fucker tracing bitch ass

  • March 29, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Save Dan Slott's, Thing

    by The Heathen

    http://tinyurl.com/joazt *** Nice reviews @$$holes

  • March 29, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Heathen

    by clintrockremix

    what exactly are you upset about?

  • March 29, 2006, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Was it the nipples or the teeth?

    by bizarromark

    Dave- I caught Howie's fixation on Hawkgirl's headlights, but the thing about Chaykin's art that actually scared me off was the TEETH! Those teeth.....huge sets of gritted teeth everywhere I looked. Sadly, like most "old pros", Chaykin's style appears to have become a caricature of the style from his glory days (which, admittedly, wasn't my cup of tea even then).

  • March 29, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Ha! Ha! clintrockremix

    by The Heathen

    My friend, the reviewers call themselves, The AICN @$$holes. Not upset at all, trust me. : ) Welcome, btw.

  • March 29, 2006, 1 p.m. CST

    ooooh Heathen

    by clintrockremix

    hahahah sorry.... i got it now... sometimes... me a little slow.. hahahaha

  • March 29, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST

    So Bug doesn't like Bendis, loves Straczynski

    by Deep Cover

    How is life on the Bizarro World, buddy? That Babylon 5 t-shirt still fit you like a glove?

  • March 29, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Who no love for Captain America?

    by GiggityGoo

    So did Brubaker and/or Epting do something to get their product ex-communicated from the site? Cap's the best hero book on the shelves these days, but no one here seems to want to review it. Surprising, considering the impact that Issue 14 had on one of the long-time Marvel plot points.

  • March 29, 2006, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Journal...

    by jazzbox2

    As much as I love Zooey (and I do love her), her boobs aren't as big as Journal's. I know that sounds trite, but it's true.

  • March 29, 2006, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Supreme Casting Decisions!!!

    by Fantomex

    Supreme Squadron was OKAY until the last page, which had every female member of the super team dressed like whores (while standing next to the president of the united states no less). I want to buy into the grown up/mature version this comic is trying to sell, but the costumes really ruin the entire thing. The notion that they would even WEAR costumes is stupid, having them dress like incredibly cheap prostitutes is simply unbelievable. I also feel sorry for anyone reading this who didn't pick up the 5 issue hyperion mini, it must have seemed incredibly boring. BTW, your Ex Machina casting makes me want to DIE. God thats bad. I don't even like the comic all that much. But man, Matthew Broderick? You're just being mean. And you left out one of the most important characters in the book! Hello Mcfly? Why am I not suprised that the guys at A$$hole central ignore the one female character who isn't drawn like a supermodel? You didn't even bother casting the police cheif, and she's hot. Did you spend 15 minutes on this? Maybe next time you should take a gander at a few of the covers to see who the important characters are, I mean if you can't find time to read the book. Here is vastly superior list: Hundred = Ben Browder (FARSCAPE), Bradbury = Kenny Johnson (THE SHIELD), Kremlin = John Hurt (SORCEROR'S STONE), Angotti = Kim Delaney (NYPD BLUE, okay I cheated on that one), WYLIE = Tyrese Gibson (ANNAPOLIS), Moore = Piper Perabo (COYOTE UGLY), Braving = Camryn Manheim (THE PRACTICE). That took all of 15 minutes. Most of that was trying to remember John Hurt's name.

  • March 29, 2006, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Get off of "New Avengers" already.

    by MattCG

    Why do you keep reading it if you fucking hate it so much? I like it, your reviews are complete nonsense and Wolverine never looked at Alpha Flight like he didn't fucking know them. Bendis talks more than he fights, this is an accepted fact and you know something? "Avengers" was never that fucking great a book to begin with. So this to me is a major improvement. I would also like to add that I want "Supreme Power" back in the MAX stable, as this new incarnation is weak sauce.

  • March 29, 2006, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Save KON-EL!!!!!!

    by Squashua

    Bwah ha ha. Ridiculous. :-) I'll bet that 12 grassroots organizations have already started. Here's hoping that we'll see a Superboy/Superman/Lex Luthor/Zeus/Wonderbaby already born OYL.

  • March 29, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Hawkgirl Art

    by Squashua

    I know it seems like you like the art in Hawkgirl, but when I read it, everyone looked like they had just been hit across the head with a pipe and had to talk out of the side of their mouths. Maybe that's just me.

  • March 29, 2006, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Politics not bad guys...

    by Meremoth

    I think I'll pass. Politics is a bad guy, and a rather bring one at that.

  • March 29, 2006, 2 p.m. CST

    Foggy's Dead

    by douglaswaltz

    Gee, Marvel's killing people! Big surprise. I am so tired of this death and destruction crap in a format that is supposed to be escapism by nature. And as for the new Blue Beetle? Ted Kord made it his own and killing him was super wrong. The new Blue Beetle sucks on principle regardless of what the comic is like. When will these morons get a clue?

  • March 29, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Any @$$holes or lay folk read

    by Shigeru

    "Every Girl is the End of the World for Me"? Is it good? Should I buy it?

  • March 29, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Good Casting On Lois Lane, Mr. Boinfoint.

    by Buzz Maverik

    I hadn't thought of Zoey Deschanel for Lois Lane but she'd work well. The kid they have is ... cute, but Lois Lane shouldn't be cute or a kid.

  • March 29, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I Suspect That Bug Reads AVENGERS...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...even though he doesn't care for particular issues because he's writing reviews. When you write reviews, you write them about books you like and books you dislike, books that you find okay but maybe could be better, etc. If you just write them about stuff you like, then you're writing advertising and should be paid by a guy named Larry Tate and have a hot, blonde witch wife named Samantha in the suburbs and have a mother-in-law who turns you into a monkey every week. At the very least, you should be Kevin Bacon working for the vice-principal from THE BREAKFAST CLUB and have a knocked up, young Elizabeth McGovern at home. The key to advertising: have a wife played by an actress named Elizabeth! But I digress. I dunno if Bug hates the book. He may hate what's happening in it, or he may hate it, but I doubt if it's as simple as LOVE or HATE, the words tattooed on the knuckles and brain-hemispheres of fanboys. Also, why is it an accepted fact that Bendis talks more than he fights? Why does that have to be accepted? I'm not saying he should talk more than he fights, but I'm saying that he (and about everything else) should be questioned. Is this the only way to do something? Because, you can be a rebel and an agent of change, but when you've been doing the same thing for five plus years, you're the Establishment. You're the Man. Not Da Man, which is a good thing with the ethnic inflection, but THE Man, as in the guy everybody wants to stick it to and whom the new rebel is going make look silly. Finally, Matt, I have to ask how extensive your AVENGERS reading has been? Have you read 'em all? Of course the book's been a good read, a great read, a crap-ass read, a fair read, a sucky read and an excellent read during all the years that it existed without Bendis ... as it will be as written by Bendis and after it's written by Bendis. Well, I'm off to push drugs on Scientologists.

  • March 29, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Kate Bosworth AKA Singer's Lois Lane

    by Shigeru

    has a GIGANTIC forehead. She won like 4 straight head-butting competitions. It's not a forehead, it's a friggin sevenhead. ...yeah I know I have nothing useful to contribute.

  • March 29, 2006, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Shigeru

    by Squashua

    is right. About the first part... with the gigantic forehead.

  • March 29, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Avengers

    by MattCG

    I've been reading Avengers since I was a kid. (Started around 1986 and then starting hunting down back issues. I now have a complete collection, though most certainly not comprised of first printings.) While definitely not the greatest book ever, Captain America is was and always will be my favorite character. I've suffered through a lot, A LOT of crap with this book and for the record, I fucking hated that Disassembled shit. I went into New Avengers fully expecting to hate the shit out of it. I mean, Cage, Spider-Man, fucking Wolverine??? (The most overused and desperately in need of killing character in Marvel history.) But, against every ounce of doubt, New Avengers won me over. I like how he takes characters like this and gives them depth. A lot of people would rather they hit shit for 20-something pages, but not me. I like the build-up. I like that Bendis takes characters that haven't been treated properly (Cage, Spider-Woman etc.) and makes them everything they could've been if the previous handlers hadn't been so half-assed about their approach. Bug is overlooking everything good about this book. This (and Brubaker's run on Cap) s the first time I've really cared about these characters as actual characters. I think he's doing a good job and I'll continue to buy the book until he proves he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

  • March 29, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Bendis' Avengers

    by Caped Revenger2

    Bendis brings more verisimilitude to comics than just about anyone else right now. His work has far more life and originality than what Geoff Johns is doing over on INFINITE CRISIS, with its Earth 7 and six Flashes and endless time and space warps. Let's let some comics be a bit different, allow them to explore dialogue and pacing, and really look at the these fantastical characters as if they are real, or at least some version of real. Do we really need x number of pages of fight scenes in every issue? What on earth is wrong with a more thoughtful approach? It's like looking at SYRIANA or THE CONSTANT GARDNER and complaining because the main characters didn't kick major ass, or drop from a plane while shooting back up at it. Some action is good every once in a while, but let's take this breather while we can. Someday, Bendis will be off the books, and we'll return to ridiculously convoluted continuity, splash page after splash page, lots of punchs, over-muscled characters, big teeth and big boobs. I loved Marvel in the mid-1980s, when Stern wrote Spidey and Avengers, when Byrne was on FF and Alpha Flight, when Bill Mantlo (I think) was doing Cloak & Dagger, and Chris Claremont was still going strong with the X titles. Then everything went crazy, it seemed, and the books were all about holographic covers and the stories were unreadable. This is a very cool time for comics, let's let them be a little smarter, at least for a while. As for negative reviews - I am all for a negative review of something I like; it can be quite challenging. But if a TV critic doesn't like a show, he doesn't write a scathing review each week. The point about the reviewers problems with Bendis and his "talky" style are noted, but it's not likely to change. So the endless complaining about it is beginning to get tiresome. Why not make THE AVENGERS more character-based for awhile? It's interesting.

  • March 29, 2006, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Dark Horizons posts plot of Spider-Man 3

    by Trazadone

    'Third film in the highly successful "Spider-Man" series sees several new villains and a new woman enter Peter Parker's life. With his secret now revealed to both Mary Jane and Harry, Peter must face the consequences of his actions and his new life together with Mary Jane as they finally form a relationship. Yet their newfound open display of love has yielded some unfortunate results, not the least of which is Peter's upset boss determined to make his life hell for causing his son emotional distress. Not helping is a young investigative reporter named Eddie Brock who Jameson has hired to find out why Mary Jane dumped his son for Peter - what's Parker's secrets? At the same time an escaped prisoner hiding out on a remote beach is caught in a dreadful accident and finds himself turned into a shape-shifting sand creature. Peter's investigations into the past of this 'Sandman' brings him in contact with two very different things that will inevitably alter his life. The first a young woman named Gwen Stacy, daughter of the city's new police chief who is developing a soft spot for Peter. The other, a black substance from an accident scene which 'merges' with Peter's costume and gives him new found abilities. Things come to a head however when Harry Osborn, determined to take revenge against Peter for his father's death and now equipped with what he needs to pull it off, teams with The Sandman in a new variation of his father's Green Goblin guise and causes mayhem. In the ensuing chaos lives are lost, including people very close to Peter, whilst the black substance covering his suit separates from him and merges with a distraught Brock to form something else entirely - a creature unlike anything he's ever faced. A 'Venom' that he may not be able to stop.'

  • March 29, 2006, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Points Well Made, Gentlemen!

    by Buzz Maverik

    My only major disagreement are the assumptions that pacing means SLOW. Pacing can be slow, fast, or mixed. And does depth equal dialogue? Watch the original DIRTY HARRY movies. In the lands of a lesser actor, Harry would spout some badass catch phrases and kill people. With Clint Eastwood, you look at his eyes, the way he pauses, the way he holds himself and you realize this is the loneliest sunuvabitch ever to be in an American movie. This is God's Lonely Man. But Harry Callahan is never going to say that. He's not going to piss or moan or cry. He's still going to take out punks and dirtbags. I consider DIRTY HARRY a work of great depth. Ditto non-HARRY Clint such as TIGHTROPE, ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ, UNFORGIVEN. But these guys are never going to chatter. You're never going to get a "brilliant" John Rambo monologue ("I want what...I want...it's what I want...I want it!") from these guys. In visual mediums, we can learn a lot about a character by what they do. In many cases, what they do can be why they exist. I'm not saying Bendis, a writer whom I admire in many ways, is guilty of this, but have you ever noticed, like when you're out a restraunt, there'll be somebody with a loud voice at another table and they talk a lot, and they have absolutely nothing to say. Yet, J. Edgard Hoover could be there (I pick him for the same reason Seinfeld did, with the law enforcement and the cross dressing, he'd be a pretty interesting person to talk with)and not say shit. Like Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and Moses could be splitting a pizza and softly saying, "We will each state one of the four tennents of the true meaning of everything. You start, Mo..." and some bitch drowns them out,"And so I called him and said did he want to hook up with you and he said no, I don't wanna hook up with her and then he goes wait,he goes yeah, I'll hook up with her if it's just a hook up.." Finally, I take exception to the idea that it has to be ALL fights or ALL talk. Those are absolutes and cliches. C'mon. Writers and fans need to have more imagination than that. But I have to tell ya, if it's people named Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Spider-Hermaphradite, Wolverine, etc. talking a lot, well, that's just people with goofy names. They'd better DO something to live up to those goofy names while they talk. I mean, if ya call yerself The Avengers...avenge me, aaaa-vennnnge ME! Otherwise, call yourself Bunch O' Bored Guys Like Us.

  • March 29, 2006, 3:32 p.m. CST

    This just in: George Clooney not Schwarzenegger.

    by SleazyG.

    I saw SYRIANA, and I really liked it. If it was billed as COMMANDO II, though, and then had Arnie standing around doing nothing for two hours, I would've hated it. What it comes down to is this: Do the FUCKING Avengers stop criminals by standing around running their yaps? NO. If they did this book would be called THE NEW UNITED STATES CONGRESS. The Avengers are there to face dangerous physical assaults by enemies too great for our conventional forces to resist. Does anybody honestly believe that the Iron Man suit was created to make it easier for a guy to stand around talking? Does anybody think of Wolverine as a wise negotiator? Does anybody say "that Luke Cage...now there's a guy who could talk the Kingpin into dropping out of the narcotics trade?" Gimme a fuckin' break. The idea that people who think Bendis is doing a pisspoor job just want to watch mindless punch-ups is missing the fucking point. The point is that every single character in the Avengers has been neutered, turned into a spineless pussy who routinely needs somebody else to pull their fat outta the fire. A bunch of dull, pointless yammering followed by Dr. Strange or Magneto or The White Queen or SHIELD or Echo or whoeverthefuck saving the asses of Marvel's heaviest hitters isn't just really fucking stupid, it's a betrayal of the individual characters and the team known as The Avengers. Betraying the essence of the characters in service of a story idea you had is horseshit: you have to learn how to tell that story and still maintain a sense of consistency with who the characters are and what they represent. Shaking up the status quo just to shake it up (oh, joy--NEW AVENGERS DISASSEMBLED this summer! Can't wait!) is just bad writing, plain and simple. It feels completely forced and out of character, which is why some of us think it flat-out sucks. Of course, some people apparently like it well enough, and more power to him, but damned if I'm wasting any more of my money on this garbage.

  • March 29, 2006, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Amen, Sleazy.

    by The Heathen

    Exactly. It's not that Bendis is a bad writer, but he has dropped the ball and I fear he may not recover it in this game, season, or franchise even. For the record, I buy New Avengers. I liked the first 3 issues and #8 was really good too (the one issue the Avengers fought the Wrecker), but I've fucking had it with this book. It's New Avengers! Like Buzz said, they should be AVENGING!!! I can take this approach and understand it on a Bendis book like Daredevil, Powers, Alias or The Pulse, but for Avengers I expact some action. Sleazy nailed it: Syriana's good, but if it was titled something like Commando then who in their bright and right minds wouldn't be pissed off? I am. About this particular issue? I even found Deadato's art to be lacking and I've liked his recent stuff on Amazing Spidey, but here? - this issue looks rushed. The story? Well, someone said what was wrong with the build up in NA? To answer that, it's been build up for 17 issues now and there's no real payoffs. We still don't have a clear view of the Sentry or who or what he is (besides wasted material), the team went public, Echo saved them sorta and hasn't been there since, Spider-Woman is a double agent, Ms. Marvel helped out and

  • March 29, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST

    The trouble with Bendis...

    by LouStick

    Or rather, *MY* problem with Bendis. Can sum it up in two words: editorial control. Or rather, the complete LACK of it. There are places where his approach to writing works, and places where it fails. Daredevil it works, because the scope of the world is a bit smaller, because we've come to expect Daredevil stories to focus on things like moral amiguities, and it's been a place where traditional aspects of the superhero genre can be examined in more realistic ways. The whole 'Born Again' storyline is a perfect exemple of this-Miller took one of the most well-established concepts, the secret identity, and turned it on its ear. Bendis did a great job of examining what would be further ramifications of that storyline when he took over the book, and it led to a lot of interesting places. It also allowed him to hone his familiar style...the dialogue, the use of tangential characters, etc. Problems is: Avengers is not Daredevil, it is not Alias, Ultimate Spidey, Pulse, or Powers, but the eidtors are letting him write like it is. The reason I stopped buying his work (and I was enjoying it for a while) is to me, it feels like the total triumph of style over substance-character & sturcture. Marvel seems content to let him do whatever he wants, from pointlessly murdering supporting characters before their prime (Ultimate Gwen Stacy, Hawkeye) to letting him bog down plots with over-extended gab-fests (umm, pretty much all his books) that don't service the plot in any significant way. The whole effect of which, to me, is like putting steak sauce on dog food...stylistic gloss over shoddy structure and less thought-out characers. The steak sauce is good, don't get me wrong...but I'd rather have it on a piece of prime rib, or even a plain old burger than the cans of alpo he regularly serves up now.

  • March 29, 2006, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Please. Foggy isn't dead.

    by Rodimus Ben

    Brubaker couldn't have made it any more obvious to anyone who's read more than two comic books in their lifetime. Last issue, Matt did not specifically hear his heart stop beating. This issue, Dakota North trails off after talking about him still being alive in the ambulance. Come on. So they have a funeral for him. Big whoop. Obviously this is part of a big plan, though I can't say for certain who among Matt's friends is in on it (Black Widow would be my guess). They've got someone (Iron Fist being the most likely candidate) posing as DD on the outside, they "kill off" Foggy to remove him from danger, then wait it out until the prosecution can't build a case against Murdock.

  • March 29, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Well put, LouStick

    by The Heathen

    Editorial control has been brought up before and it's probably the greatest thing from keeping New Avengers

  • March 29, 2006, 4:22 p.m. CST

    AVENGERS is NOT SYRIANA or THE CONSTANT GARDENER...

    by superhero

    And stop pretending that it is. And have you LOOKED at Spider-Woman's boobs lately? We're already in the era of "ridiculously convoluted continuity, splash page after splash page, lots of punchs, over-muscled characters, big teeth and big boobs." Or are you not reading the same superhero books I am?

  • March 29, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Spider Woman has Hydra Implants

    by Squashua

    Read her ORIGIN or NEW AVENGERS. In one of those issues where they show her going BACK to Hydra to get her powers back, she's on a Hydra operating table and losing all her hair from treatments, but it's QUITE obvious they've got boob implants on the surgery table.

  • March 29, 2006, 4:42 p.m. CST

    What got me to stop reading comics the first time?

    by The Heathen

    Onslaught. And now he's back

  • March 29, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Chuck Norris and your virginity

    by nemler

    Hey Humphrey, Didn't Chuck Norris take your virginity just the same as Nextwave..er, no?

  • March 29, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Nextwave review

    by XAOS

    Is the most uninformative sequence of words alleging to be about a subject I have ever encountered. Brava, diva!

  • March 29, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Speaking of

    by The Heathen

    Put your thinking caps on, you naughty children. MATH TIME!!! Try to solve this equation: Corrupt policeman + giant, hungry robot

  • March 29, 2006, 4:58 p.m. CST

    by Caped Revenger2

    The point about characters like Dirty Harry and Rambo not talking so much is a good one. You're right - those characters "say" a lot more by not saying much at all. It's all the look in their eyes or what they actually do. But in many ways, those characters aren't so identifiable anymore - it's why you don't see many Clint Eastwood or Arnold Schwarzenneggar movies anymore, or why Harrison Ford movies like FIREWALL are all but forgotten - it's more interesting to see characters who are more nervous, less self-assured. I am a Batman fan, but I go crazy over Spider-Man - that perfect mix of a chatty, nervous kid who almost forgets he's as strong and powerfulas he is, because, no matter what, he is and always will be the skinny kid who was picked on at school. (Toby Maguire did a good job in the movie, but I prefer him in the wisecracking mode). Anyway - I did like Bendis' rendition of Matt Murdock precisely because he did so little talking. This latest issue by Brubaker - while extremely well-plotted - is missing, it seems, those tiny little details in the corners. Murdock now has that running interior monologue where he says things - albeit to himself - such as "Daredevil has always been me held in check. They've never met the real Matt Murdock." That, to me, is too much talking. Too much self-reflection. I went back to a Bendis issue I had handy (since I am at work, but I always have a couple of comics stashed nearby, it seems) # 56 to be exact, and, indeed, there are four or five pages of dialogue, dialogue, dialogue - but it's all Ben Urich, which feels appropriate. It seems like Murdock was usually clammed up, except when he finally replied to the rantings of others. One more thing - some people have replied that they would have been disappointed in SYRIANA if it had been described as COMMANDO II and been what it was. I completely understand. But in the comic book world, we either see old books handled radically differently, or we have new versions, such as ASTRO CITY. Personnaly, I like the super-talky Avengers, as opposed to a variation on the Avengers, by another name, being handled this way. But I do understand the plotting thing. Bendis' style married to an old-fashioned plot is when he is at his best. ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, where he is essentially redoing old plots, and even DAREDEVIL, where he started off by basically picking up "Born Again" are when he is at his best. Original plots haven't been so inspired, I will certainly admit.

  • March 29, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Besides the 'talky talk' in NA

    by The Heathen

  • March 29, 2006, 6:03 p.m. CST

    That Nextwave review...

    by Psynapse

    was so awesome I shit and pissed myself, while snarfing Coffee all over my keyboard. Then my my shit, piss, and snot-filled coffee went out and beat the hell out of 65 senior citizens, killing them and turning them into zombies.

  • March 29, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Foggy's not dead

    by +

    like smallville killing pa kent i fail to care because i fail to believe.

  • March 29, 2006, 6:38 p.m. CST

    DC's OYL shit is really fucking boring.

    by dregmobile

    I think Zero Hour was more exciting. They have totally underwhelmed so far. Killing off the JLA title? Thanks. That was the only DC title I really liked. Justice is good. JLA Classified OK. The rest just looks like toasted bland.

  • March 29, 2006, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Mayor Hundred

    by kuryakin

    I always imagined him as a Bill Pullman type. Michael Rooker, though, that's a good call. And Zooey Deschanel. But I would have Willem Defoe as Kremlin and for the laddie above who complained about it, the woman who plays Cuddy on House as the police chief. But who cares? Because it will be a shitty movie Fuck it- this only works as a comic just like Samuel Beckett only works as theatre. What is it with us comic reading people that we want to suck up with non-comic people? I mean, come on - I am as guilty as anyone else of doing this but we really do seem to try and court the affections of non-SF or fantasy loving people, by convincing them that this shit is 'normal'."Yeah - ExMachina, it's lik Spider-Man meets the West Wing." You know, it's like BSG, where we try and push an SF show on people by playing down the SF elements. I just feel like - FUCK IT. I like science fiction. I like comics. Why try and sell this shit to people who don't get it? Why are we ashamed of liking this stuff? Like that fat fucking kid in Donnie Darko says "I'm not afraid anymore! " I'll happily stand toe to toe with any fucker and argue that She Hulk is pure art.Ok now I need to pee

  • March 29, 2006, 7:39 p.m. CST

    JLA

    by kuryakin

    was always kind of boring and silly to me. But I picked up the JSA about 7 or 8 months ago and I have grown to love it. I knew nothing about the series or the characters, nothing about their history or motives- yet I enjoyed the series and kept going with it. JSA Classified is the best DC title out there I think, with the exception of Birds of Prey. Honestly - if you were a new reader would you understand ANYTHING that is going on in DC these days? I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking the whiny Justice League are better off gone. Until people can write these characters with some fun and style, just get rid of them altogether. Don't you feel -when reading JLA- like a mother with a miserable teenage kid? Don't you feel like saying - Oh, fucking grow up you miserable little prick! And pick your feet up when you walk! And don't you dare slam that bedroom door!!

  • March 29, 2006, 10:02 p.m. CST

    No Love for TMNT

    by Shadowhawk

    I have to say that the two Ninja Turtles comics, the regular series, and "Tales of the TMNT" are great. Some of the best I'm currently reading. These titles never get any love from aicn. :(

  • March 29, 2006, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Hero Saves Self & Others = Harry Potter...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...author is JK Rowling level. Hero is on the side lines, action "off screen", others must save themselves = Charlie Bone and author is Jenny Nimmo level...Hell, it didn't quite work but that's why Peter Jackson put Adrian Brody in Kong's way and him up in the Empire state building (we didn't want Jack to be Kong's killer or we could have had him flying a plane!).

  • March 29, 2006, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Sometimes, I Think We're Too Small To Even Dream Big ..

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...any more. I mean, just because we sit around "talking" about meaningless crap all day on one board or another, we can't even imagine our heroes doing much different.

  • March 29, 2006, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Avengers

    by DarkZero

    You know that a reviewer just totally hates a comic and/or its writer when they take things out of context. In the issue of New Avengers, when Wolverine says "Is that Alpha Flight?", it's actually because he's the only one that DOES recognize them. Whereas everyone else sees nothing but a twisted pile of body parts, Wolverine sees a twisted pile of body parts that's actually familiar. There was hardly anything left of them. ---- And yes, The Sentry is pathetic, but my personal opinion is that he's pathetic in an interesting way. I'm also assuming that this story is running parallel to The Sentry Vol. 2, so it actually makes sense that he wouldn't appear. He's crazier than ever. ---- I totally agree about the rest of it, though. The whole "We're just going to stand here" thing was actually pretty cool, but the way they run off was hilarious in what seemed to be a totally unintentional way. Also, there's really not enough content in this story arc. Both issues could've been released as just a single comic without all the filler, and I bet that when the third one is released, it still won't bring the entire arc up to enough content to fill an issue of, say, Invincible.

  • March 30, 2006, 12:06 a.m. CST

    bendis...yawn...

    by blackthought

    my pupils are dialated.

  • March 30, 2006, 12:10 a.m. CST

    and...

    by blackthought

    is it me or just my imagination...but its quite cold in here...

  • March 30, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    my apologies...

    by blackthought

    i found out myself...it is cold...according to hawkgirl's nipples anyway.

  • March 30, 2006, 12:32 a.m. CST

    The Devil's Panties

    by Averyslave

    Awesome to see "The Devil's Panties" get some play. Her stuff is hilarious. She did a few promotional comics for the indie flick "Geekin'" a while back and we greatly enjoyed working with her. (http://www.geekinmovie.com/ - click on the "Geeks Gone Wild" post-it.)

  • March 30, 2006, 12:45 a.m. CST

    ultimates

    by steverodgers

    first time talk backer

  • March 30, 2006, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Ahh, nipples...

    by AstroThunder

    Bless you, Howard Chaykin. If only the dames I date and eventually get dumped by were drawn by you... Ahh, to dream. Good reviews all around; makes me realize that I keep forgetting to get into Manhunter and that I owe Bill Brasky a drink *** Good casting for Ex Machina. Not going to dispute the supporting cast which is pretty much spot on, but I think that Mitchell Hundred would be better played by Cary Elwes -- still very personable, can probably hide his accent all right, and he's got the look.

  • March 30, 2006, 7:27 a.m. CST

    GiverofTruth here's your clue!

    by douglaswaltz

    At what point in my rant did I come across as sensitive. I am merely stating that the comics world in general has been playing the doom and gloom death card waaaay too much lately. Plus I never called Ted Kord a major player I stated that he made the character of Blue Beetle work. Period. I also NEVER said I wasn't going to read the comic. Go read between someone else's lines and get your own freaking clue

  • March 30, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    douglaswaltz

    by Shigeru

    "The new Blue Beetle sucks on principle regardless of what the comic is like." To me it sounds like you're prejudging. Could just be me, but I dunno!

  • March 30, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST

    next wave #3

    by donopolis68

    What the f*** was that. I have a problem with this review in the fact that it wasn't a review. I guess "Humphrey" liked the book, or was that sarcasim? was it some form of a joke that you had to read the comic to understand or was it just poor writing? I don't know...that just sucked. I want my 15 seconds back. D-

  • March 30, 2006, 8:49 a.m. CST

    steverodgers

    by Shigeru

    Hey welcome to the TB! Ultimates is indeed amazing and awesome and worthy of all praise. I'm not sure if the @$$holes reviewed this most recent issue...but regardless it's a few weeks old so too late anyways.

  • March 30, 2006, 9:24 a.m. CST

    I mentioned Zooey as Lois Lane last year

    by rev_skarekroe

    Right after "Hitchhiker's..." came out. But did anyone listen? Nooooo.

  • March 30, 2006, 9:29 a.m. CST

    the hell?

    by Shigeru

    NEW Avengers Disaasembled? Loeb/Liefeld on a HEROES REBORN/ONSLAUGHT relaunch? Oh wait, hahaha okay Marvel I get it, April Fools! Right? ......?

  • March 30, 2006, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Also, the new "New Avengers" was just OK.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Not an "awful, awful comic". But it's no work of genius either. Just OK. But like Mr. Maverick is so fond of saying, fanboys just can't seem to realize that there can be any middle ground when it comes to opinions.

  • March 30, 2006, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Also, I'll be dropping "New Avengers" with "Civil War"

    by rev_skarekroe

    Based on the preview issue that just came out, I have absolutely no interest. But I suspect we'll all be discusisng that next week.

  • March 30, 2006, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Also, do you ever feel like a jackass at the comic shop

    by rev_skarekroe

    When you walk up to the counter and all you've got is superhero stuff? The only non-men in tights book I bought this week was Spike vs. Dracula #2. I always feel like there's an indie creator looking over my shoulder with a single tear running down his cheek.

  • March 30, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST

    ah...

    by blackthought

    so liefeld is still getting work...interesting...er....

  • March 30, 2006, 11:32 a.m. CST

    re: GiverofTruth

    by The Heathen

    Yep, I stand by that one. NOBODY liked Disassembled. It's a universal opinion

  • March 30, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Welcome, steverodgers!

    by The Heathen

    I'd say more about The Ultimates, but I just started reading the first volume yesterday! So, for now I have to avoid the spoilers. But afterwards I'd love to talk about it. Shigeru said I should be beaten for not having read it

  • March 30, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    chaykin, bendis

    by John Dalmas

    Love Chaykin; one of the most original, idiosyncratic and flat-out weird creators comics have produced. And he does draw the hottest women in comics, even though they often look like they're speaking through gritted teeth. That said, he really, really, really needs to stop dressing them in mid-eighties fashion. Hot twentysomething women no longer wear high-waisted jeans rolled to mid-calf with leather jackets that have big, studded shoulder pads. What I'm saying is that Hawkgirl disappointed me. I don't think Bendis is the anti-christ, but I do think he's a weak, hamstrung writer. Basically, he rips off TV and movies that he likes and tries to shoehorn them into superhero comics under the auspices of doing something different. Wasn't his last issue of Daredevil a theft of the ending of '25th hour' (a movie he's said he's a big fan of)? I really liked Powers' riff on 'Homicide' for awhile, then I realized the man couldn't plot a mystery to save his life, with the story arcs treading water for five chapters, then bringing in a resolution from left field in the last chapter. But at least in Powers, given the dynamics of the book, this style of chatty writing worked. It simply doesn't translate across genres. Having people talk a lot does not necessarily "deepen" or "enrich" them as characters. What it does is make them resemble people on TV and in movies, and creates the illusion that what you're reading is somehow more "authentic" characterization because, well, it resembles TV and movies. Basically, my thing with the dude is that it's always been apparent that he loves comics... and that what he really wants to do is write for television.

  • March 30, 2006, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Hrmm

    by The Heathen

    But Yoda thinks that by killing people you set them free, doesn't he? I better stop before this tb get's turned into a 'Lucas raped my childhood' thing. That, or Buzz comes up with a 1,000 different and better things that 'could' have happened. It's not that it's because Hawkeye went out like a chump, although he even said, "Not like this!" I'm honestly happy that Dan Slott is getting to play with bringing Clint back in She-Hulk anyway, but that doesn't mean that I think Bendis is the Antichrist. I've said that I think he's a good writer, but he needs an editor who will edit him and Joey Q. needs to get the cigar out of his ass and tell him so as well. And despite everything I feel about Bendis and NA

  • March 30, 2006, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I meant 'Civil' and 'mixed' of course

    by The Heathen

    Good points on Bendis, Dalmas.

  • March 30, 2006, 1:30 p.m. CST

    That Nextwave Review...

    by Psynapse

    Was so badass it went back in time and kicked donopolis68's dad so hard in the nuts that his mom had to sleep with her brother and thus produced the liddle troll that showed up on the TB today.

  • March 30, 2006, 1:31 p.m. CST

    uh-oh

    by blackthought

    don't let vale read your bendis musings dalmas.

  • March 30, 2006, 1:50 p.m. CST

    perhaps, but

    by The Heathen

    we usually don&#39;t wait a month between episodes of Lost and 24 is non stop baby! And in the case of NA it&#39;s the opposite, as much as we like dialogue and bantering scenes, there has to be something in between the discussions, and the <The hell?> <Well

  • March 30, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Blue Beetle and Avengers

    by Homer Sexual

    I wasn&#39;t going to buy Blue Beetle until I read the review here. I picked it up and enjoyed it. The dialogue was fun, the whole issue was satisfying light entertainment. I do wonder how long before it gets boring, but the first issue was successful. Now, the New Avengers isn&#39;t the worst ever, because although I&#39;ve read Avengers since the end of the storyline that first introduced Hellcat, I have periodically dropped it and I am still reading NA, it is kind of lame. I guess I buy it because my appreciation for Bendis&#39; development of Spider-Woman and Luke Cage is stronger than my distaste over how Iron Man and Cap act, or the fact that Wolverine is even in this book.

  • March 30, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST

    GiverofTruth......

    by Psynapse

    1. TV shows come out weekly (okay so a few week&#39;s at a time but still) whereas comics come out once a month (if that) and ANY writer worth the jam under their toes knows that dragging out dramatic tension too long is one of the quickest ways to kill interest in the story. Such techniques work in TV, BECAUSE IT&#39;S FREAKING TELEVISION. They do NOT work in comics because THEY&#39;RE FREAKING COMICS. The differences between the 2 mediums are (currently) FAR, FAR greater than any similiarities that may exist. &#39;It works on TV, why can&#39;t it work in comics?&#39; is the silliest thing I&#39;ve read on this column in a LOOOONG time.

  • March 30, 2006, 1:56 p.m. CST

    New Avengers Disassembled? Onslaught?

    by Homer Sexual

    Ok, those are jokes, right? The New Avengers aren&#39;t even Assembled properly, how can they be Disassembled? And Onslaught is when I dropped some books back in the day as well. This must be a sick joke.

  • March 30, 2006, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Apparently, 1 person liked Avengers Disassembled

    by Homer Sexual

    And that was GiverofTruth. I can only think of two things universally hated here since I started reading AICN. One was Catwoman (the movie, of course) and Avengers:Disassembled was the other. Which of those two was worse? ......hmmm.... still thinking.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Hawkgirl

    by Homer Sexual

    Hawkgirl was very disappointing. I have always liked the Hawks and bought the first 20 issues of this series. I also looooove the way Hawkgirl is portrayed on the animated JLA/JLU programs. And I even loved Chaykin&#39;s oft-panned Challengers mini. Plus, huge fan of Simonson&#39;s Thor run. Yet with all of that, I was so bored by Hawkgirl I had to start over like 4 times and it took about 6 days before I finally finished. She was never in costume, and it was just so dull..so no 51 for me.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:11 p.m. CST

    See

    by The Heathen

    Homer, I couldn&#39;t even watch two minutes of Catwoman, so I say that one wins/loses. And GiverofTruth, do you like Disassebled? I don&#39;t think you&#39;ve stated your official opinion. I&#39;m curious to know. If you do, please enlighten me. Homer, "he New Avengers aren&#39;t even Assembled properly, how can they be Disassembled?" That was classic. And screw Onslaught! Bad, bad memories man.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Bendis? This seems like a job for Vale

    by El Vale

    Ah where to begin? Ok, NA seems interesting and here&#39;s why: Superhero books don&#39;t exist anymore. PURELY superhero books, i mean. They&#39;ve been so prominent for such a long time that the genre doesn&#39;t really exist as a genre so much as a backstory or a familiar setting. These superhero books aren&#39;t really about being a streaight faced superhero and what that entails, they&#39;re humor/adventure books starring people with superpowers or action/political consipiracy books starring familiar superheros. NA? A book about superheros standing around talking and being pussies. Sounds interesting to me (In fact the books&#39;s already saved in my hard drive but i can&#39;t bring myself to read it because i skimmed through a couple issues and i can&#39;t stand the Finch art). Some people are making the point that just because all you do is stand around and talk doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re actually saying something, and it&#39;s a good point but i can&#39;t relate Bendis to that scenario (remember i said I, EYE, ME, VALE) because i&#39;ve always been impressed with his dialogue and wordiness, not because it&#39;s SO EDGY and because I TALK LIKE THAT, but because his characters say fascinating things. Often, when reading a Bendis book, i get the feeling i get when watching a Wes Anderson movie or a PTA movie, the sense that i&#39;m seeing this scene for the very first time, the sense that no one&#39;s ever said that in a movie, or in this case a comic. (Bear in mind i&#39;ve only read Powers and Daredevil). One talkbacker mentioned Bendis&#39; dialogue and wordiness is completely deliberate and he cited Matt Murdock as an example of this and i couldn&#39;t agree more, so maybe Bendis DOES get these characters, because in the end "getting a character" is a completely subjective experience and you&#39;re obviously going to gravitate, as a reader, towards a writer who gets the character the same way you do, and you&#39;ll spew venom at one who sees the character in a completely different way. Happens in real life, why can&#39;t it happen in comics as well? Another thing i wanted to say is Marvel clearly doesn&#39;t see this series as Avengers written by Bendis. No, it&#39;s Bendis&#39; Avengers, the same way it was Morrison&#39;s X-Men. So if he wants to have the Avengers stop crime by masturbating simultaneously, he&#39;ll do just that and you can either be insulted or not give a shit. If he wants to do NA: Dissassembled, he&#39;ll do it (Especially if no one liked the first one, perhaps he thinks he can write a Dissassembled that doesn&#39;t suck, ever think of that?) and i repeat, you can either be insulted or not give a shit, because it&#39;s a free country and Marvel can&#39;t put a gun to your head a force you to buy it. I know, it&#39;s too bad they can&#39;t be YOUR Avengers instead of Bendis&#39; Avengers, but life isn&#39;t fair, i chopped off part of my left index finger slicing some cheese last night and i certainly did nothing to deserve that. Oh well.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:19 p.m. CST

    GiverofTruth re: No Psynapse...

    by The Heathen

    Here&#39;s an example. Say in 24 all they did was have one big discussion in the Presidents bunker. You have Logan, Mike, Aaron, etc. just talking it out for an hour - nothing else happens. Can you honestly tell me that by next week you&#39;d have anything to say but, "They talked about the terrorists attacking, and

  • March 30, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST

    but I hated HoM

    by The Heathen

    So no, not a good thing. And I guess that means that your like or dislike also depends on whether or not you like HoM. The plot thickens

  • March 30, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    I Agree With El About Superhero Books Not Existing ...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...much any more. It&#39;s a shame. Superheroes sometimes exist in movies, on TV, in cartoons, but not in comic books. It seems all other mediums do them better and are not afraid of doing them. This is not a good thing at all. This is why comic book sales are down. This is why comics are speciality item that you have to go to weird little hobby shop to get. This is why kids don&#39;t read comics and why there won&#39;t be new readers. And that is why many of you will wake up one Wednesday and find there are no more comics.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Thank you Heathen...

    by Psynapse

    It&#39;s been an annoying and eedjit filled day here in the world of industrial hydraulics and I was all set to unloose some flaming scathe on the that steaming pile of sophistry dressed up as something plausible. Nice try Giverof, nice try but no teddy bear for you.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Not taking a single dump in an entire day.

    by Shigeru

    THAT&#39;S what I would call a bad development!

  • March 30, 2006, 2:54 p.m. CST

    GiverofTruth

    by Shigeru

    I think the complaint about NA isn&#39;t that we can&#39;t remember what happens from ish to ish and need things to be nice and simple, but the fact that there is NOTHING to remember. Yeah all dialogue and maybe some walking or traveling in a car or a plane so they can talk in a different room wouldn&#39;t be so bad if it was fascinating things they were talking about, but unfortunately....not. Bendis writes great dialogue but that doesn&#39;t get you a free pass on story.

  • March 30, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Psy does not suck up to me

    by The Heathen

    He&#39;s a friend and has had my back too many times for me to count. In this case, I think he was simply refering to you sir, not saying Disassembled was either A) good or B) bad. Btw, A or B? And sure there could have been some great dialogue in an all bunker edition of 24, but your right, "Lots of words don&#39;t automatically make a bad plot" but they do if the story doesn&#39;t go anywhere. Case in point, New Avengers.

  • March 30, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    "doesn&#39;t get you a free pass on story."

    by The Heathen

    Yup.

  • March 30, 2006, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Vale: I&#39;m not insulted, and I don&#39;t not give a shit too

    by Shigeru

    I give a shit cause I love Marvel comics and Marvel superheroes and characters. Yeah a writer has the fundamental human right to write Avengers doing jack shit and masturbating to stop crime. And I won&#39;t buy that. But I don&#39;t want to never again buy a story starring the Avengers for the rest of my life. That would be a bummer. So I give a shit. And I&#39;m not really sure I agree with "These superhero books aren&#39;t really about being a streaight faced superhero and what that entails, they&#39;re humor/adventure books starring people with superpowers or action/political consipiracy books starring familiar superheros." By that definition no comic has ever been a Superhero book.

  • March 30, 2006, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Heathen

    by Shigeru

    "and has had my back too many times for me to count." heh. careful how you word things having to do with the queercog. low brow I admit but I&#39;m bored.

  • March 30, 2006, 3:07 p.m. CST

    I can never remember what happened in "Y: The Last Man"

    by rev_skarekroe

    Of course, it doesn&#39;t help that lately he keeps changing the POV from issue to issue.

  • March 30, 2006, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I don&#39;t buy NA

    by Shigeru

    I kinda read it on the shelve and put it back. "but I don&#39;t think NA really be that much better if it read as one big snuff film. " Please see Buzz about fanboys only thinking in black and white terminology.

  • March 30, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Shigeru, glad you got it!

    by The Heathen

    Hey, low brow&#39;s okay sometimes. I was going to go with something about sucking up, but I&#39;m happy with what we got. Heh. And Vale, "perhaps he thinks he can write a Dissassembled that doesn&#39;t suck, ever think of that?" All the time, but in this case I think it&#39;s spite. Nice post though, but I think currently, that at least DC has acknowledged that in Infinite Crisis about supers being super, and what not.

  • March 30, 2006, 3:25 p.m. CST

    I did refer to it

    by The Heathen

    and I&#39;m not saying that it was the WORST thing ever written, but I think that it was universally disliked

  • March 30, 2006, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Ex Machina Casting

    by Brother Zag

    I just can&#39;t see Broderick as Mayor Hundred. He&#39;s too nice. Too soft. I&#39;m thinking we need someone who&#39;s been to "war" (Band of Brothers), yet has bureaucratic experience (Office Space): Ron Livingston! Rooker rocks, good choice for Bradbury. Kremlin... Irons is too English, not rugged enough. Gotta get someone crustier. Kurt Russell or Bruce Willis or Terrance Stamp. For some reason, I&#39;ve always seen Malcom Jamal Warner as Deputy Mayor Wylie, don&#39;t have the foggiest (er, uh daredevil pun intended) idea why. Journal... ah, who should be Journal? She&#39;s been cast in my mind all along, too: Julia Stiles. Has to be. Heh... I love these things! Thanks, guys!

  • March 30, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Okay Fuckwit, there went the gloves..

    by Psynapse

    You wanna play snarky little word games? Fine, get ready motherfucker. "I&#39;m curious as to why you think having the attention span of a three year old makes your enjoyment of comics that much better than mine." Wow, you not only completely twist my words into something completely different but you also belittle me in the process! HOW FUCKING ORIGINAL. I mean, whoo I am SO goddamn impressed (not really). **FYI: Attention span is the amount of time a person can concentrate on a single activity.** Your rubber-science equating of attention span with span of interest is made even more laughable by your attempt to use it as a means to &#39;wittily&#39; insult me you utterly pedestrian little fuck (apologies to the little fucks out there I had to group this knuckle-dragger somewhere). "An inability to remember something in a 30 day period, when did that become a badge of honor?" I will refer you back to the CORRECT definition of attention span on that &#39;gem&#39; of conversation (and I by &#39;gem&#39; I mean &#39;steaming pile of worm-infested cowshit&#39;). Since I can&#39;t decide if you&#39;re more laughable than pathetic I guess I&#39;ll have to settle on laughably patetic at that. Next time try to actually know what the fuck you&#39;re even talking about shitstain....

  • March 30, 2006, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Friends, Cogs, lend me your ears...

    by Ambush Bug

    You guys might as well give it up. GiverOfTruth is a troll who also goes by the name of SeeThruThis. He&#39;s been tooling around this TB for ages in hopes to find people to argue with. He&#39;s just a sad product of the internet. Time and time again he has been banned (to be honest, he&#39;s the only person we have ever banned from AICN Comics) and time and time again he logs back in under a different name and generally makes the TB a toxic place to congregate. Early in this talkback, we recognized the resurgence of this troll and tried to play nice by letting him in for a while to see if he&#39;s developed the ability to play with others and time and time again he proves that he can&#39;t. My advice, ignore him. He is unable to have an argument without completely misunderstanding and misconstruing each and every post you do. Some say that for every five minutes an adult has an argument with a child, the adult decreases in age five years. The same goes here. Any attempt to talk and reason with this troll will just make you regret your posts afterwards. Friendly workd of advice, save them for talkbackers who matter. SeeThru/GiverOfTruth/whatever lame moniker he hides behind surely doesn&#39;t. All he comes here for is argument and attention. I learned long ago that without that he simply fades away because he simply has nothing else to offer.

  • March 30, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Bug..

    by Psynapse

    Much love to all me @$$es and Cogs this fine Thursday.

  • March 30, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Yeah, More Than Insulted Or Not Give A Shit...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...you can call poor writing poor writing. You can call a misuse of the medium what it is. Why should you keep quiet because people don&#39;t want to hear it? Fuck that. Writing isn&#39;t writing and storytelling isn&#39;t storytelling despite the medium. The medium is everything. The medium is the message. Frankly, TV couldn&#39;t get away with the shit comics do. The TV audience is the mainstream, guys. Something, in some way, has to be happening or the Norm family is switching channels. It can be emotional conflict, etc. It can all take place in one room, be all verbal, but it has to move or the show is cancelled. TV has even more rigid constraints because it all has to be written around commercials. Even with these season long things, each episode has criteria it has to meet and the TV writers are better at it than the comic writers (well, Bendis) because they know how to do set-up/build up simultaneously with the structure of the single episode. Guys like Bendis have convinced themselves, and their fans, that what their doing is so much a part of a longer, more significant work that some of the issues you&#39;re buying are the equivalent of buying a roll of Lifesavers that only contains the empty space in the center. This wouldn&#39;t be tolerated in film or TV, novels, whatever. So much of this depends on fanboy intellectual pretension and comic book intellectualism where everything you know is from a comic book or a "creator" interview. They teach a few catch phrases like "Thirty pages of fights" and that&#39;s the alternative to 30 pages of talking. Two guys on a bare Second City theater stage can talk all night in a David Mamet play, but they&#39;re talking about the women they&#39;ve fucked, things they&#39;ve done, that&#39;s what you&#39;re there to experience. Since this is the best way to present this on a bare stage, this works. Put it on film and we&#39;re at least going to see what they&#39;re talking about with a voice over. The whole 30 pages of hitting things arguement is ridiculous anyway. What we&#39;ve got is an audience full of sensory avoiding males who have retreated behind computer screens and comic books and now are even retreating within their imaginations. A paradigm has shifted, true. We&#39;re all men born under Feminism, many of us raised by women. Tarantino is a good point. A guy raised by a single mother so look how talky his tough guy films were...interestingly up until the KILL BILL movies with the female protagonist, who was more of a guy than we often see. For me, comic books don&#39;t get deeper or more meaningful than this:"You! Beings! We are the X-Men from the planet Earth! We&#39;ve come for the woman Lilandra and the man Erik the Red." "I am Gladiator of the Imperial Guard. The princess you seek is a traitor. We will not give her up." "Then, we&#39;ll take her!" That, folks, is Scott "Cyclops the Wimp" Summers, btw. That&#39;s how ya get things done! You crash your hovercraft and chase that alien motherfucker straight through that stargate to the Plains of Leng or wherever the fuck across the universe and when you find an army of super beings squared off against yer seven mutants, you fire the first optic blast, yer the cool leader, Wolverine&#39;s the tough guy, Storm&#39;s the smart guy and Jean&#39;s the quiet religious guy who goes nuts. And no, these aren&#39;t Bendis&#39; Avengers. He didn&#39;t create a single one of them. There&#39;s Bendis&#39; Powers and Bendis&#39; Jessica Jones, but these are Marvel&#39;s characters that he&#39;s writing on a for hire basis. More importantly, this is Heroic Fiction. These are bigger than life characters with superhuman powers and if that is not taken into consideration, then you have a motionless story about people who dress funny and call themselves funny names, which Millar and Hitch nailed beautifully with the Ultimate Defenders in THE ULTIMATES. I DO want fights. I DO want explosions! I DO want chases! It&#39;s like, do ya do ya do ya want a STAR WARS with a crawl like : "The Yoda-Smoot Tariff Act Of Dantooine is being debated in a special caucus of the Imperial Senate. A fillabuster has broken loose after a protracted debate between Senator Jabba (R) and Senator Wicket (D), with accusations that the Imperial Walkers are in the back pockets of Clone lobbyists. An investigative committee has been set up, with disqualifications of the Gundark representative..." or do you want "Rebel spaceships striking from hidden bases have won their first victory over the evil Galatic Empire"?

  • March 30, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    The problem here is

    by El Vale

    These aren&#39;t Bendis&#39; characters obviously and they&#39;re not even Marvel&#39;s characters. They&#39;re your characters. That bastard Bendis...how could he do that to me?

  • March 30, 2006, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Laugh out loud, Buzz. That sums it up.

    by The Heathen

    I&#39;ll take "Rebel spaceships striking from hidden bases have won their first victory" all day long!!!

  • March 30, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST

    What Does That Even Mean,El?

    by Buzz Maverik

    If Bendis were to get a job writing SCOOBY DOO cartoons and suddenly Scooby and Shaggy are sitting around the Mystery Machine during the whole thing and not being meddling kids and busting that obvious guy in the monster suit or eating heaps of crap, and I point out that they may look like Scooby and Shaggy but they aren&#39;t behaving that way, does that make them my characters. If Jessica Jones is suddenly well adjusted and racist and I point out that she&#39;s a neurotic in love with a Black guy, does that make her my character?

  • March 30, 2006, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Figures that Givers a troll...

    by Firedrake

    as I don&#39;t see anyone with their heads that far up their own rectum that they&#39;d really like Disembled as being able to type. I am surprised that he takes the time out of his busy day of small rodent molesting to come here to stir up shit though. Oh well, back to comic talk, I managed to force myself into buying Supreme, even though I was worried about it being neutered by the transition from being a MAX book. It was a bit on the weak side in my taste. I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll be getting this one regularly unless they switch it back. I just can;t see it having the same punch.

  • March 30, 2006, 6:28 p.m. CST

    I wish it would go back for the same reasons, Firedrake

    by The Heathen

    I&#39;m still waiting to read the no-Max Supreme Power, because Hyperion #5 hasn&#39;t arrived yet. But I have the same reservations about it being tamed down and not as raw. Issue 18 probably had my favorite scene/moment of last year (a late @$$ie if you will). When mark flies up into space and then nose dives into earth causing a massive earthquake with an impact that leaves a mushroom cloud visible from the moon and he&#39;s just standing in the crater with his uniform in rags and all you can think is how this guy really is supremely powerful. Bad ass. I&#39;ll miss Franks nicely rendered boob&#39;s too. What?

  • March 30, 2006, 6:45 p.m. CST

    mediums, Bendis

    by John Dalmas

    You know the crucial difference between TV and comics, or movies and comics, where Bendis is concerned? It&#39;s not about attention spans or three-year-olds or any other snarky language. The difference is ACTORS. One medium has actors, the other has drawings. Buzz is very right about the importance of medium. Prose, narrative poetry, serialized TV, movies, comics. Each is a different storytelling medium, with its own strengths and limitations. The best writers in each play on the medium&#39;s strengths to tell a story uniquely suited to that medium. Part of using those strengths means acknowledging each medium&#39;s weaknesses. Bendis writes for television, and not even very originally.

  • March 30, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Well said Buzz, well said....

    by Psynapse

    Seriously dude, that was THE proverbial nail on the head. I formally bow to you...Hey! Gimme back my wallet!

  • March 30, 2006, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Nope, Jones is still Bendis&#39; character

    by El Vale

    Bad example.

  • March 30, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    yeah...

    by John Dalmas

    I did say that last week, but I was also drunk and acted like a bit of an asshole on my first post. So take my admonitions with a few grains of salt.

  • March 30, 2006, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Good point about Bendis and mediums, John D.

    by The Heathen

    It&#39;s not as apparent on sometihng like Alias, but when you have issue after issue with nothing happening storywise in New Avengers, then the formula needs a change or the writer nees a new medium. I know his 3 act method he follows has been discussed before, but I thnk it should be mentioned again for the fact that in every 6 issue arc of his, he has about 3 or 4 pointless issues. I thought/think that editorial should only give him 3 issue arcs for New Avengers

  • March 30, 2006, 7:24 p.m. CST

    http://tinyurl.com/f396j

    by The Heathen

  • March 30, 2006, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Bendisaykin

    by John Dalmas

    I think that&#39;s right, Heathen. People have talked about BMB&#39;s three-act, Robert McGee/Syd Field structure, but it doesn&#39;t make it any less true. I mean, if there&#39;s anything that Eisner, Kirby, et al. accomplished, it was showing that comics is it&#39;s own medium, not some pallid approximation of cinema or television; it has its own rules, its own strengths and weaknesses. A writer mimicking those mediums in comics doesn&#39;t just miss the boat, they&#39;re almost degrading everything the comic-book form has done to establish itself as legitimate in its own right. Seeing the same drawing of Dr. Strange for three panels with Bendis&#39;s word balloons just isn&#39;t good comics to me. Now, if I saw an actor as Dr. Strange saying Bendis&#39;s words in a TV show, that&#39;d be a different story. But that&#39;s not the case. In fact, &#39;Avengers&#39; the TV show, written by Bendis, is something I&#39;d watch. ...Now I&#39;d like to suggest the conversation turn to a panel discussion of Howard Chaykin&#39;s most subversively misogynistic moments. I vote for The Shadow #3, where the Shadow hypnotizes Harry Vincent&#39;s daughter into having sex with him. You just don&#39;t get stuff like that any more.

  • March 30, 2006, 7:41 p.m. CST

    buzz&#39;s screed

    by John Dalmas

    I went back and read the whole thing. Exacta-fucking-mundo. Put that in the Comics Journal or something. Or at least send it to the Powers letters page.

  • March 30, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Too true, John

    by The Heathen

    I&#39;d watch Avengers on TV written by Bendis, unless Wolverine screamed the rape thing. I don&#39;t think I can get past that! Hmm

  • March 30, 2006, 7:51 p.m. CST

    or

    by John Dalmas

    How about his &#39;Blackhawk&#39; limited series, where the Errol Flynn character forces his subordinate to give him a blow-job? Man. What a rascal.

  • March 30, 2006, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Hey Buzz

    by El Vale

    What&#39;s your favorite comic that doesn&#39;t have any action and all that?

  • March 30, 2006, 9:08 p.m. CST

    chaykin and the talking cat

    by steverodgers

    i always really liked the talking cat in american flagg - was it Raul? Hilarious. i think that was why i was completely flummoxed when i read black kiss - i was like where is the funny robot, and the cat with hands? Wait these aren

  • March 30, 2006, 9:19 p.m. CST

    also..

    by steverodgers

    heathen/shigeru thanks for the welcome posts. buzz that was a great rant on bendis. avengers disassembled was a nightmare from start to finish and liefield-esque in its total ineptitude. new avengers, although not as bad, is far from good and just extremely frustrating to read as someone who cares about the characters. I also still refuse to buy that spider-man would be on the team in the first place. The hell!

  • March 30, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Another question

    by El Vale

    Under which conditions is a creator&#39;s comic book work (Bendis) deemed written for (or at least intended for) television?

  • March 30, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    seriously

    by Darth Kal-El

    i love this fucking board!

  • March 30, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Luke

    by Tall_Boy

    We need a petition to change his name to that.

  • March 30, 2006, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Doin&#39; Da Butt...

    by John Dalmas

    ...and that brings it back to Chaykin.

  • March 30, 2006, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Buzz, man, you are my hero AGAIN...

    by superhero

    Jesus, Beesus! What is this? Three weeks in a row that you&#39;ve been my hero? You said it brother. You are the MAN. ESPECIALLY after how pissed off I was at Bendis this week. At least until you get pissed at me again for whatever crazy thing I say that pisses you off again...:O) ;O)

  • March 30, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Favorite comic without action and all that

    by John Dalmas

    &#39;From Hell.&#39;

  • March 30, 2006, 10:45 p.m. CST

    I so knew it was hiim

    by Homer Sexual

    But he&#39;s not as bad as before. I know he&#39;s the guy who called me an A$$hole-kisser. Hey!

  • March 30, 2006, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Three Quick Bitches

    by Marco_Xavier

    1) The alarm bells went off when Sleazy G referred to Blue Beetle&#39;s old team as the "JLA," and I knew I was dealing with a greenhorn when he criticized Guy Gardner. Dude, Guy Gardner, unlike Lobo, was Giffen&#39;s sucessful parody of "tough guys" as the simplistic assholes they tend be in real life. Guy Gardner should never be seen as "bad ass." Now go read "JLI." 2) I don&#39;t mind the killing of Foggy Nelson, because I&#39;ve read the book off and on since Denny O&#39;Neil&#39;s run, and I still never cared about him. I&#39;m still pissed about Karen Page though. Anyway, I just wanted to say "Winter Soldier" was a shit idea, and plagued by all the problems Ambush Bug would complain about in his anti-Bendis rants. I dropped the book, and I love Captain America. I expect to grab the trade for those Crossbones & Sin issues, though. 3) Ambush Bug remains one of my favorite reviewers, but I&#39;ve never once agreed with one of his "Casting Calls". Matthew Broderick? The fuck?!? Better than average edition of the column, despite my complaints. Keep up the good work.

  • March 31, 2006, 8:26 a.m. CST

    "For me, comic books don&#39;t get deeper or more meaningf"

    by rev_skarekroe

    I do hope you&#39;re just referring to superhero comics there, Buzz.

  • March 31, 2006, 8:26 a.m. CST

    New Avengers & Robin

    by vagrant's choice

    Bug, I agree with your review 100%. I still liked the issue though. I don

  • March 31, 2006, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Next wave review :Psynapse

    by donopolis68

    I stand by my comment&#39;s re: this non-review. I enjoy reading the opinions of other fans. I have even enjoyed your posts quite a bit. This non-review however told me nothing about the comic. art(kicks ass!) story (kicks ass! so hard) would like to hear what it was that made this book such an enjoyable read. You and I both know that although it may have been amusing it was not a review in any sense of the word. I don&#39;t see why I should be attacked for voicing my opinion. Cheers, D-

  • March 31, 2006, 8:56 a.m. CST

    SeeThruThis, ect...

    by Shigeru

    Hey I knew it sounded a bit familiar...heh. ANYWAYS. *** Vale: what do you think about what Buzz said about Scooby Doo? I think it&#39;s pretty accurate. I don&#39;t think characters should be written the same way forever, but if they&#39;ve lasted this long it&#39;s probably for a reason. The core foundation of something like say Spider-Man is so fuggin strong that it allows decades of stories all in that sandbox of a character. *** Just picked up the BANANA SUNDAY trade, it&#39;s awesome, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED from the bearded one (me, not Alan Moore). *** Quick query to my fellow TBer&#39;s: how much would you pay for a nice big poster of that page in AS Supes of Superman and Lois kissing on the Moon? God that was beautiful.

  • March 31, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Blue Beetle #1

    by vagrant's choice

    Chuck Dixon gave Ted Kord a nice everyman appeal during his run on BoP. I had no plans to read a Ted Kord-less BB series but tried issue 1 anyway. I

  • March 31, 2006, 10:51 a.m. CST

    oh one must clap for buzz...

    by blackthought

    and now i&#39;m caught up on what i&#39;ve missed...good stuff as usual...oh bendis...i&#39;m with heathen on the hom sentiments...which in my opinion was lame...unless you work for ign comics where every marvel book is a must read.

  • March 31, 2006, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Guy Gardner&#39;s suit is stupid?

    by Daredevil

    Aside from the moonboots (which he hasn&#39;t worn since the 80s), I think his suit is pretty cool. And he stopped having the bowl-cut about the same time. It&#39;s certainly better than anything Kyle Rayner&#39;s ever worn. This isn&#39;t a dig at the character, just a matter of terrible costume design. Even his first costume which had an AWESOME bodysuit was hampered by the ugliest mask in comics and dorky, bulky fingerless gauntlets. Although, personally I would change Guy&#39;s suit if I were drawing him (scratch that, WHEN I draw him...I will be one of these days), I&#39;d have him wear a t-shirt and jeans even as a GL. Imagine a black t-shirt with the red Warrior&#39;s symbol over the left breast, then when he powers up it morphs into a green diamond-shaped "G" (like the way the G&#39;s were on the Guy Gardner logo way back when). Simple, yet still with the black & green style of the Green Lantern Corps, and the personalized G would be in keeping with Guy&#39;s arrogance that he&#39;s the best GL. And if he needs a lantern logo, I could see Guy putting one on his belt buckle :) That would be something he might do.

  • March 31, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Marco Xavier, I highly disagree

    by Daredevil

    Read Beau Smith&#39;s take on Guy Gardner in his self-titled series. Guy was great in that. Beau&#39;s about the only person that really got Guy Gardner. I take anything Giffen writes with a grain of salt because every character is an extreme parody of himself, and thus are written out of character to an extent. Don&#39;t get me wrong, I love the Giffen JLA, but pretty much everyone is a characature and do things they really wouldn&#39;t in the rest of the DC universe, from Blue Beetle to Batman. It&#39;s the same with his recent Defenders miniseries, where the philosophical Silver Surfer does NOTHING but philosophize, Namor&#39;s usual formal way of talking sounds like a King James Bible, and Dr. Strange is a parody of himself. Are those the REAL characters, is that how they should always be portrayed? No way. Neither should Guy. Guy&#39;s closer to an arrogant John Wayne or Bruce Willis action hero than anything. Tough, manly, but a bit stuck on himself and a little too boorish with the ladies sometimes.

  • March 31, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Re: SeeThruThis, ect...

    by El Vale

    Man i really didn&#39;t want to get involved in this, but what the hell, here it goes: Dude, I don&#39;t hate New Avengers and i don&#39;t hate Bendis...in fact i LOVE Bendis and i&#39;ve discussed him and defended him many many times here in the talkbacks and i&#39;ve never been deleted or banned...why? Because i know how to talk to people. This board doesn&#39;t operate on hive mentality mode and you can find disagreements even between people who are very friendly towards eachother, but since we&#39;re all grown ups here we know we can discuss and debate without resorting to hateful rants and jabs and insults. If you don&#39;t like it here you can leave, i wouldn&#39;t want to hang out in a place i hate.

  • March 31, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Shig shig Shigella

    by El Vale

    Well, i don&#39;t think Buzz ever actually contradicted me, in fact i think maybe i didn&#39;t make my views clear enough. Buzz makes a good point about Scooby Doo (even if it did throw me off a bit because i hate Scooby Doo so much), and it&#39;s pretty much the same point i was trying to make, which is...these characters are yours, and by yours i mean everyone&#39;s, they&#39;ve become part of a larger consciousness because they&#39;ve been through so many incarnations, iterations, creative teams, storylines etc over the years, they&#39;ve ceased to be the intellectual property of a single person or company. In turn, it&#39;s been pretty much mapped out who the character is and how the character should behave, i would imagine, based on what&#39;s worked and what hasn&#39;t in the past. So yeah, going back to Scooby Doo, Buzz doesn&#39;t make the point that they&#39;re being written out of character, rather, they&#39;re being placed into a situation that doesn&#39;t fit the context in which they were introduced initially. In this case we have to ask ourselves...what&#39;s wrong with that? And what IS the core foundation of something like Avengers? Spider-Man? It could be distilled down to "With great power comes great responsibility", but that doesn&#39;t really encompass everything that Spider-Man is. Placing the Avengers in a context unlike the old familiar one has been done and has worked (Ultimates) but i&#39;m pretty sure it hasn&#39;t worked for everyone and the same thing has happened with New Avengers. Pretty much everyone here at AICN Comics hates or dislikes New Avengers to some degree, but you&#39;ll find places where people actually really enjoy the book and you&#39;ll probably be as surprised as i was to find out the book wasn&#39;t universally disliked by every single person in the known universe. Now, under these conditions, and based on what i&#39;ve read here so many times, Bendis is betraying what the Avengers are at their core by having them be pussies who stand around and get pulled out of trouble by lesser characters, and it&#39;s ok to dislike that and i think that&#39;s where Dave&#39;s coming from when he mentions Bendis&#39; Avengers book should be nothing but the down time. That way you&#39;re placing the characters in a different context than what you&#39;re used to, but it works and it doesn&#39;t betray what you know and gives you something you haven&#39;t seen before. And that, i believe, is completely valid. And fear not, your Avengers will return to greatness (your kind of greatness) eventually, that&#39;s how it is with these things.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    That Nextwave Review....

    by Psynapse

    Was so badass that Chuck Norris had to read it. Then he got Mr. T to read it. Then they both told donopolis68 to stop being such a pussy.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST

    That chuck norris stuff

    by Shigeru

    was funny at first but now it&#39;s kinda crap. especially cause everybody just deleted chuck norris and typed jack bauer and then laughed at it again. it&#39;s kinda like the thousandth time you&#39;ve heard someone quote napoleon dynamite.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Nice to come back and see these discussions

    by The Heathen

    Shig, I haven&#39;t read AS Supes #3 yet! Like an idiot, I was trying to wait for it along with Walking Dead, Green Lantern and Invincible. *** Btw, need a good example of meaningful, story driven dialogue with (wait for it)

  • March 31, 2006, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Wait!

    by El Vale

    Mitch Hurwitz left arrested?! What? Please explain.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Vale, El, Valey, Valerie.

    by Shigeru

    Avengers is kinda a bad example, cause I don&#39;t really know the core foundation of them. Earth&#39;s greatest heroes banded together to face threats too big for any one of them on their own? That sounds about right. Anyways, lets go with Scooby effing Doo (who I too hated, hate, and will probably never like). Yeah Scooby and the Gang have been through many creators and shows and movies and comics (?) ect ect. I guess you could call those incarnations. But none of those had Shaggy unmasking the crotchety old villain only to beat his head in with a pipe and defacate on the corpse. But you&#39;re saying that if somebody wanted to write scooby doing just that for the next 5 years, and that&#39;s the only scooby stories we get, that would be fine and dandy? ...Now that I think about it, are you saying that the second, the INSTANT a character is created, it is fair game and one can do anything with it? That character is instantly part of the public conciousness and open to all sorts of interpretation? On one hand I agree with you, I welcome elseworlds and one shots and miniseries that explore unknown territory with characters. On the other hand, this is the ONLY Avengers book out there, and BMB has been writing it this way for a year and a half. There has to be a reason Spidey has had "great power, great responsibility" stories for 40 years, and not "gwen stacy fucks the green goblin" stories for 40 years.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Read ARES 1-3 last night

    by The Heathen

    and it&#39;s pretty bad ass with the action, one could even call it

  • March 31, 2006, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Heathen

    by Shigeru

    The money shot in AS Supes #3... will take your breath away. I think I literally gasped.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Vale&#39;s Development

    by The Heathen

    http://tinyurl.com/nvl36 *** Looks like the 4th season on Showtime is unlikely. : (

  • March 31, 2006, 2:43 p.m. CST

    West Coast Avengers

    by The Heathen

    Well, maybe not &#39;West Coast&#39;, but it sounds like there is going to another faction of Avengers possibly one led by Cap and the other by Iron Man. Here&#39;s a chance to have some change from Avengers: Downtime, unless Bendis writes that one too. I say let Dan Slott, David Hine, Robert Kirkman or Mark Millar write it. Hypothetically that is. *** The money shot sounds awesome Shig. *** Ha! Ha! Cogs, Kal-El just messaged me about the &#39;well trimmed man!&#39; Good times.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Shig

    by El Vale

    I think you misinterpreted every single thing i said :P "Anyways, lets go with Scooby effing Doo (who I too hated, hate, and will probably never like). Yeah Scooby and the Gang have been through many creators and shows and movies and comics (?) ect ect. I guess you could call those incarnations. But none of those had Shaggy unmasking the crotchety old villain only to beat his head in with a pipe and defacate on the corpse. But you&#39;re saying that if somebody wanted to write scooby doing just that for the next 5 years, and that&#39;s the only scooby stories we get, that would be fine and dandy?" No that&#39;s not what i&#39;m saying...what i meant was there&#39;s a difference between a different context for a character or characters, and writing those characters OUT of character. So instead of having the gang unmask some lame warewolf, they just sit around in the van and talk, and it could be described as what the gang does when they&#39;re not unmasking lame warewolves. Is it out of character? In theory, no. Is it different? Yes. "Now that I think about it, are you saying that the second, the INSTANT a character is created, it is fair game and one can do anything with it? That character is instantly part of the public conciousness and open to all sorts of interpretation?" Nope, never. That&#39;s why i cited Buzz&#39; Jessica Jones example as a bad one, because Jessica is obviously Bendis&#39; character and has only been around for a couple of years. But Captain America and Spider-Man and Wolverine, those are the characters i&#39;m talking about because they&#39;ve been around for decades and so they don&#39;t belong to anyone, metaphorically speaking. So basically i would pretty much agree with you 100% IF i gave a shit about Scooby Doo or the Avengers.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Getting ready to read some Lost spoilers

    by El Vale

    God i&#39;m so weak. This is all your fault you know!

  • March 31, 2006, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Hurwitz

    by John Dalmas

    Yes... Hurwitz walked away from Arrested Development-- AFTER Showtime was going to buy 26 new episodes! Dark, dark, dark news... He said he&#39;d be happy to stick around as a "consultant", but he didn&#39;t want to be the showrunner anymore. Showtime said it wasn&#39;t interested in the program without Hurwitz running the thing. So... just as Arrested is being brought back to life, it&#39;s parent aborts it. You can read about it on Variety&#39;s website. I already wept for this once this week.

  • March 31, 2006, 2:54 p.m. CST

    I love how Shig and Vale are using Scooby Doo

    by The Heathen

  • March 31, 2006, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Vale, don&#39;t spoil it!!!

    by The Heathen

    and the Arrested news is like when there was the chance of james Cameron AND Ridley Scott doing a Alien 5 movie together, only to learn that Fox went with Paul &#39;Wet Shit&#39; Anderson instead. On second thought, maybe it&#39;s not quite that bad, but still really, really bad! And seriously Vale

  • March 31, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Spoiled!

    by El Vale

    I now know about the mysterious map. Sigh, i told you i&#39;m weak! But no more, no more. Haven&#39;t downloaded any episodes either, thank christ. And also...WHY MITCH, WHY?! I don&#39;t understand. I mean...why?

  • March 31, 2006, 3:55 p.m. CST

    vale...

    by blackthought

    he felt he went as far as he could with the show and well there will be no showtime season...it&#39;s over...though he&#39;s open to a movie.

  • March 31, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Maybe three seasons is enough?

    by El Vale

    I still hate the fact that a show like that can&#39;t survive in today&#39;s market. Sigh. Well, we still have Lost!

  • March 31, 2006, 4:27 p.m. CST

    maybe three beers is enough...

    by John Dalmas

    but four would be better. I&#39;m one of the folks that thinks Lost is a progressive insult to its audience. Sorry; just saying the fact that it&#39;s on the air offers no consolation to me.

  • March 31, 2006, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I Love Bendis&#39; FORTUNE & GLORY. Jessica Good Example..

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...this is Bendis&#39; character. What I left out: some new dork starts writing her, makes her a self-assured racist. The key: some other dork writing her. Now, some other dork can write her just fine as long as she&#39;s a non-racist neurotic. But guys who dress like devils, flags, wolverines, etc., they tend to DO stuff. I used to hope, for example, that someone would do a version of DAREDEVIL (which both Bendis and Miller touched on in their own ways) in which it&#39;d be Matt, Foggy, Urich, the Kingpin, their various women, etc., except that Daredevil would appear for the adventure (&#39;cause for too many years we had Marvel heroes sort of wandering around aimless "up there" until they stumbled across something to act on). Finally: "Rel? Rhy ro rou rate Rooby Roo?"

  • March 31, 2006, 4:39 p.m. CST

    How does Lost insult me John?

    by El Vale

  • March 31, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I have ALWAYS fucking HATED Scooby Doo!!

    by Psynapse

    It was ALWAYS some crusty fuck in a rubber mask. My sister who was 2 years older and WAY meaner liked it and she&#39;d beat my ass if I tried to change the goddamn channel. FUCK YOU SCOOBY DOO!

  • March 31, 2006, 5:21 p.m. CST

    TBer Daredevil & Guy Gardner

    by Marco_Xavier

    DD, I&#39;ve been a Guy Gardner fan since JLI, which means I knows me history. He started out as a forgettable namby-pamby back in the 70&#39;s, but since that was the only time he was ever in full command of his mental facilties, it&#39;s the closest to the "real" Guy Gardner we can get. However, nobody gave a crap about that Guy, so we&#39;ll move on to his resurrection as a renegade GL during Steve Englehart&#39;s run on "Green Lantern." That Guy was pretty nearly a villain, and unquestionably a dangerous sociopath. Giffen & DeMatteis actually softened Guy a bit, making him a jingoistic poster boy for the Reagan republican and all around obnoxious ass. This remains the most popular take on the character. Gerard Jones undermined this take by playing up Guy&#39;s mental defects and other inadequacies in the "GL" series, and the GG mini & ongoing series that followed. While I hated seeing the softer side of Guy, Jones mostly stuck with a one-note variation on the Giffen schtick, which was almost as tiresome as that Lobo ongoing that somehow ran forever. Chuck Dixon&#39;s handling was still consistent (with DeMatteis anyway) while adding more depth to the character, which led to Beau Smith&#39;s run. I was a big fan of his more remorseful and level-headed Guy, who still couldn&#39;t catch a break with his fellow heroes, at least initially. Over time though, and not a little provoked by the departure of the much missed Mitch Byrd on art chores, I began to realize Smith&#39;s take was really just Ben Grimm: The Ultimate Warrior. What was once an entirely unique super-hero. especially for the DCU, had been co-opted into a cuddly, likeable, slightly brutish nice Guy. Fans and creators alike rightly blew that version off, and we&#39;re now seeing a slightly more redeemable variation on the Giffen/DeMatteis approach, including the return of his deservedly iconic (Staton? Chaykin? Perez?) Crisis-era uniform. I think all characters should be allowed to evolve, and Guy has, but not to the point of losing the qualities that made them popular or unique in an increasingly homogenized comic book universe. At his best, he&#39;s more a cross between Jack Burton & Ford Fairlane than John McClane & the Duke, and I like him best that way.

  • March 31, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    well...

    by John Dalmas

    Allright, only since you asked, but I have no desire to get into another debate about the merits of &#39;Lost.&#39; I think it&#39;s stupid television. If you don&#39;t, by all means enjoy. In my opinion, the way a large part of the show&#39;s expositional flashbacks often have little or no bearing on the present-day story and the way many of those scenes are used as nothing more than padding to stall out any development or progression in the present-day story is a cheap device. I think the characters are often ridiculously unrealistic in their behavior, and their personalities are essentially one-dimensional. I think the way so little of actual consequence happens on the show and the way the creators have to cling to the central mystery as the only motivating force for people to tune in is a poor way to tell a story. I think constantly baiting viewers with an endless stream of red herrings is ridiculous. Particularly after watching this season&#39;s Battlestar Galactica, Lost just seems really flacid and pale, lacking any real drama or recognizably human characters. I&#39;ve got some friends who dropped the show this season, and the ones who didn&#39;t sound increasingly like abused housewives defending their attackers:&#39;he&#39;s not really so bad,&#39; &#39;he doesn&#39;t mean to hurt me,&#39; &#39;he really loves me,&#39; &#39;you don&#39;t know him the way I do.&#39; If you enjoy the show, fine, enjoy it. I was only saying I receive no consolation knowing its on the air. Notice I don&#39;t go on the &#39;Lost&#39; boards and try to attack the program, I&#39;m only giving up my opinion since you asked.

  • March 31, 2006, 6:03 p.m. CST

    no more arrested?

    by Darth Kal-El

    sad news for sure! im still trying to find a decent torrent of season 3 to catch up but from what i heard its pretty funny. vale, even though u read the spoilers i think its still going to be worthwhile to see the eps beacuase so much goes on. i agree with john dalmas that lost is a continious insult to the audience because i dont feel there is a set ending thats plotted out. i thinhk were being mind fucked.but i guess im the chump because i race home from work every wednesday to be insulted. depending on how season 2 ends i might be around for 3.im almost for sure i wont be around if they go to 4.

  • March 31, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    heathen i read your post

    by Darth Kal-El

    yes trimming! good times for sure!

  • March 31, 2006, 6:23 p.m. CST

    flashbacks...

    by blackthought

    to the cog trimming email-a-thon.

  • March 31, 2006, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Good times

    by The Heathen

    more like

  • March 31, 2006, 7 p.m. CST

    I see your point, Dalmas, but disagree.

    by SleazyG.

    I don&#39;t think the flashbacks are padding at all. I definitely take issue with the idea that they have no bearing on the main story of the survivors on the island. The flashbacks are there, in fact, to stop the characters from being one-dimensional: they help explain why the characters respond the way they do to specific events. Everybody is a product of their experiences to a certain extent, and the flashbacks are used to show us those experiences, thereby further illuminating the behavior of the characters. Beyond all of that, though, there&#39;s the fact that we&#39;re starting to see the different ways these characters were already connected before they ever boarded that plane. I have no doubt we&#39;ll be seeing more and more of that, and it will end up being directly tied to the plight of the survivors. The flashbacks therefore serve at least two obvious, up-front purposes without which I think the show would be much weaker.

  • March 31, 2006, 7:46 p.m. CST

    last thing about lost

    by John Dalmas

    I said many of the flashbacks are padding, not all. I don&#39;t think think the flashbacks necessarily add dimensions to the characters; by providing a very simple motivational equation (something happened in the past which explains why someone does something in the present) it actually makes the characters much simpler, effectively categorizing them. Human motivation rarely seems so simple to me. But even excepting that, what is the show then, an endless explication of very simple motivations? And... allright; I have to stop here, because I don&#39;t want to argue about the show, and there&#39;s other boards for that type of thing. I&#39;m sure lots of people disagree with me; that&#39;s why they&#39;ll keep watching Lost. Enjoy, have fun. I think it&#39;s bad; you think it&#39;s good. Fair enough.

  • March 31, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    great times indeed my friend!

    by Darth Kal-El

    im loving how hes heading off to eat after flashing back to the trimming. bon apetit mon ami!im still aggreeing with dalmas in that yes some of the flashback add depth to the characters while others just kind of seem to slow things down. prettty much all the sun and jin ones this season have seemed pretty worthless to me. its funny because i agree with a lot of what dalmas is saying but i still love the show. i just think i wont love it as much if it keeps dragging on for years on end. the novelty will have worn off

  • April 1, 2006, 6:14 a.m. CST

    long live remmigans

    by Darth Kal-El

    even tho i never had u,i miss u pup.watch over heath, and vale, and psynapse, and katie, and shigeru,and blacktought and kal

  • April 1, 2006, 6:15 a.m. CST

    and gus

    by Darth Kal-El

  • April 1, 2006, 6:31 a.m. CST

    john dalmas

    by Darth Kal-El

    relax a litle bit-your amongst friends(or at least like minded people). regardless of what Truth says what, this is not a biased sandbox. im only sayin, with the utmost respect, that were not going to gang up on a person being geniunely interested in some discussion about comics,movies,TV,whatevadafugeva.no need to be defensive

  • April 1, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST

    DKE

    by John Dalmas

    Ok-- Thanks. You&#39;re right. That&#39;s why this is one of the best boards on the site. I just get wary criticizing the show because so many Lost fans are just so damn rabidly scary. But you&#39;re right; people don&#39;t usually behave like that over here. Thank Christ.

  • April 1, 2006, 1:40 p.m. CST

    So...

    by Thalya

    Anyone think with the new Flash series that the operative word in the title is Flash: the Fastest Man ALIVE? hmm..

  • April 1, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST

    thayla lives

    by blackthought

  • April 1, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    thalya!

    by Darth Kal-El

    im glad to see u on girl! whats shaking? isnt it supposed to be some other flash?im not up to date im sorry.and dalmas yes this is one of the best boards on the site and yes lost fans are some rabid wankers at times.actually ive noticed that anyone that obsesses over anything be it movies tv comics u name it has a tendency to be rabid on this site."fuck you you dont like LOTR" "no fuck you you dont like star wars". man im an all purpose geek i can be into anything.but i digress.yes were awesome

  • April 1, 2006, 7:17 p.m. CST

    darth..

    by blackthought

    you forgot the bendii..."fuck you, you don&#39;t like bendis"..."he&#39;s the greatest writer ever, the only comic book is a bendis book"...now i go drown myself...

  • April 1, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Hulk killing people

    by kuryakin

    26 of them, including 2 kids and a doggy or some shit. What the fuck? So is that now canon? Because a while back in one of Marvel&#39;s few truly interesting titles (She-Hulk) it was all "Nah - not Brucey. He would kill himself before killing poor wee innocent peoples" Now he fucking well has killed people and Tony Stark is sending him off to space. It&#39;s so fucking insulting. And boring. The same shit you hear at DC every once in a while - "Why doesn&#39;t Batman just kill the Joker????" But then again I try and roll with these pissy punches. As shite as they are, Spider-man and Hulk and Iron Man have had to go through some truly pathetic shit over the years and they are still here. This crap will blow over in a while and then we&#39;ll have some other shit to complain about. Guaranteed within ten years at least 30% of superheroes will have switched gender...

  • April 2, 2006, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Hey guys!

    by Thalya

    Gah.. The problem with trying to seize life by the horns is it often seizes you back, throws you down, rocks your world and doesn&#39;t let up for awhile. I&#39;ll have to send an e-mail with my big development because I&#39;d be totally embarrased to mention it here. *** On comics: on the Flash in particular, it&#39;s still a mystery, though they say "don&#39;t get too attached to the first one you see" (which, according to previews is Jay Garrick - and if anyone saw it, since when was he a metahuman?). I&#39;m thinking this might actually be Barry Allen, the man literally running against his fate in dying in the original Crisis. Just before that Crisis he went into the future I think, so who knows when and for how long? This has been some TB, too bad I only read it after Giverof got banned. (always fun to see Psy getting his ass-kicking mode on, though :) Specific books: Superman/Action: wow. I have never loved or really &#39;gotten&#39; Supes, and I&#39;m loving every inch of this. And I&#39;m pretty sure that a year ago, I wouldn&#39;t&#39;ve stomached the idea of a new Blue Beetle book not starring Ted Kord. Giffen&#39;s really being smart though, starting out with all the heroes extremely disliking Jaime so he&#39;ll have to earn everything; though I&#39;m liking him right off the bat, he&#39;s enough of a departure from Ted that Ted will easily keep his idiosyncrasies.

  • April 2, 2006, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Hulk Can Kill But He&#39;d Better Not Light A Marlboro.

    by Buzz Maverik

    Hi, I&#39;m Joe Quesada. Here at Marvel Comics, we value realism and hard edged stories which is why we have the Hulk killing all over the place...except with second hand smoke. Remember: murderer, yes, smoker, no!

  • April 2, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Mon ami&#39;s!!!

    by The Heathen

    Kal-El, I was heading off to eat some tube steak too! Nah, just kidding

  • April 2, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Daredevil

    by john Slater

    New to this post but ive just read the Daredevil review. I find it strange that Bug is not reviewing it and i also find it stranger that in an arc that Brubaker is writing in the same style as Bendis and Lark is drawing in the same style as Maleev that the anti Bendis brigade is suddenly loving Daredevil. Doesnt anybody else find this strange? I think is says an awful lot about these so called &#39;reviewers&#39;. You should all bow your biased heads in shame.

  • April 2, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST

    About Guy Gardner and the other green guy

    by The Heathen

    I didn&#39;t know too much about Guy until a couple a years ago, but now someone who didn&#39;t make the best first impression is a pretty fun character. I like &#39;em. Btw, in the GL Corps: Rechargre mini, he was named Green Lantern #1 of the Honor Guard or something. I thought that was pretty cool. Nice mini series too. *** Buzz, exactly. "We can have Hulk killing women and children and puppies, but second hand smoke is EVIL!!!" I just recently read She-Hulk #4 where she knows that Bruce hasn&#39;t killed anyone because he would end his life. And this is where Marvel needs to shape up. The House of ideas is built on sand

  • April 2, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Some Infinite Crisis stuff..

    by Thalya

    For Heathen, my one word IC #5 review: ZAURIEL!!!! (and Jimenez doesn&#39;t mangle his costume like so many other artists!) Some notes on the series in general: it doesn&#39;t seem like there&#39;s enough slam-bang happenings going on. Just from what I remember of the original Crisis, things were more all over the place and more twisty (In this issue the heroes defend Monitor&#39;s towers! In this issue they fight the anti-Monitor in space and Supergirl dies!). Maybe it&#39;s because plot strands bleed issue to issue and instead of a concrete resolution in each we just get more development. That, and E-2 Superman going on and on about the corruption of the world just gets really redundant after a few issues (albeit the DBZ-like Supes vs Supes fight on Earth 2 is just sweet - and not long enough!). And for that matter, mere appearances by Diana Prince and the like which set up the new series don&#39;t have the impact as things-actually-happening. This is a miniseries - try not to have it as an informercial solely for OYL and 52 (regardless that I think the Diana Prince direction is precisely what WW needs). And another thing, referring to the IC Secret Files: did anyone get the impression that Identity Crisis/Batman being mindwiped actually came about as the result of one of Superboy Prime&#39;s punches creating the continuity wave? So that means Superboy Prime was reacting to the darkness which he helped create. Nice villain..

  • April 2, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Hrmm

    by The Heathen

    Haven&#39;t read IC Secret Files yet, but it&#39;s on the pile. Just got my shipment of comics with a bunch of the OYL issues including Supes, BoP, Aquaman, Robin, Nightwing, Catwoman and JSA. I got to catch up quick. Thalya, I get what you mean about the differences, you&#39;re right to a degree, but I guess my main drawback has been the length of the series. Will it be long enough? Hope so, but COIE was MAXI to the max, you know? I am glad that Superboy Prime is wearing the Anti Monitors duds and the return of possibly Barry Allen is cool too. When it comes down to it, I guess that I&#39;m thrilled with the way it&#39;s revving up, but it&#39;s already supposed to be in 5th gear and it feels like we&#39;re already slowing down. Also, does anyone think that having OYL (which I like the idea of) happen during IC kind of takes away a lot of the suspense in these last two IC issues? We know the main three are going to dissappear, Robins still Robin, same for Nightwing, etc. I guess we&#39;re still unsure of Flash and stuff, and Conner is totally going to die isn&#39;t he?

  • April 2, 2006, 1:12 p.m. CST

    I think Johns said..

    by Thalya

    Issues 6 and 7 would all of a sudden get fast and furious, but it seems like that would make things extremely unbalanced. And yeah, poor Connor. That must be why they delayed Teen Titans #34, so it wouldn&#39;t reveal the news ahead of time? Though there is a panel in Action that suggests this is indeed so. *sniff* But I guess they must be paring down the Big Three back to basics, and that means possibly getting rid of the Superman imitators (from Death of Superman) OYL; so no Connor, Cyborg, or Steel? Maybe the reason for starting OYL early is so people aren&#39;t discouraged from buying if some of their faves kick it. I forget, which Flash has which belt? Is Barry the symmetrical belt and Wally the asymmetrical one, or the other way around?

  • April 2, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST

    By Cyborg I mean Cyborg Superman, that is...

    by Thalya

  • April 2, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    My thoughts exactly about the delay of TT

    by The Heathen

    Buh-bye Superboy! Cassie too? Or are we going to have her moping around powerless for year or two? I heard that Cyborg (not the Superman one) in TT #34 starts off with him waking up after a year. Cool stuff there. I foget about the Flash belts, but there&#39;s been plenty of people that said it was Barry in IC #5. I&#39;d miss the hell out of Wally though now that I think about it. And what&#39;s going to happen to Donna Troy?

  • April 2, 2006, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Well..

    by Thalya

    Cassie is on the cover of the 3rd OYL TT cover, so.. And something happens in TT #33 which suggests she might get more powerful than ever. I think you&#39;re right about Barry in #5, but it looks like he&#39;s got 2 different belt designs in that one image. Maybe they have the idea to start fusing their characters so the universe can&#39;t fracture? Like, either the old ones die, or some like Barry and Wally merge into one character? (they both had twins, so maybe there&#39;s something...) One character with the mantle, best of both worlds?

  • April 2, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Just read TT #33

    by The Heathen

    Guess she could be really powerful huh? Hope that the characters don&#39;t merge into one. That would confuse a lot of people rather than simplifying(sp?) these icons. Plus, no matter how many Flashes or Green Lanterns and such, I think that the main 3 or 4 that the fans know are pretty good characters. On the note of Nightwing, it looks like he&#39;s being really pro-active with Superboy by heading to the &#39;big golden tower&#39; but I don&#39;t get why it&#39;s just the two of them. Sure, I know the titans beeper thing went off to the other busy Titans that are cleaning up Bludhaven, and Batman is with Booster and others, Supes is fighting E2 Supes, etc., but isn&#39;t taking out the tower the most important thing to do besides Brother Eye? Way more important than Bludhaven. Save a city, lose a world(s).

  • April 2, 2006, 3:36 p.m. CST

    i love ic talk

    by blackthought

  • April 2, 2006, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I hate ic talk

    by El Vale

  • April 2, 2006, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Next week on

    by The Heathen

  • April 3, 2006, 2:06 a.m. CST

    The IC -- awesome

    by AstroThunder

    Y&#39;know, Connor and Cassie do sound like OC names. Wonder if DC will make an IC soundtrack with hip indie rock acts on it. Afterwards, I wonder if hipsters will denounce bands that appear on the IC soundtrack in an attempt to look cooler than thou: "Man, Rogue Wave and Death Cab used to be cool." If anything, Peter Gallagher may get his own spin off album or issue of Solo (they&#39;l uncancel it just for him). :P

  • April 3, 2006, 5:45 a.m. CST

    gods it feels like the tb is back in full swing

    by Darth Kal-El

    just like in the early all week days!just got back from the store and yes that supes and lois thing on the moon is amazing! i also love the big (spoiler) superman is dead written by clark kent thing.im curretnly prety behind on my comics reading so bear with me as i catch up.glad to see thalya back in the IC mode and once again congrats on the thing. heathen just let me know a few weeks in advance and im there!

  • April 3, 2006, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Barry West?

    by Shigeru

    da fug?

  • April 3, 2006, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Heathen

    by Shigeru

    You think the boys from Gainesville are going all the way? Not that I even like basketball...

  • April 3, 2006, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Banana Sunday

    by Shigeru

    The trade for this just came out. Buy it. Go-Go the Gorilla wins every single @$$ie EVER. Past, present and future. Best miniseries? Go-Go the Gorilla. Best penciller? Go-Go the Gorilla. Nobel Peace Prize? Go-Go the Gorilla.

  • April 3, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST

    i love zee hoops

    by blackthought

    and for some knawing reason i think ucla&#39;s lock down defense will shut down the gators tonight...then again i pretty much hate florida and florida state!...all the product of living in miami when younger being honed to be a hurricane...and yuo know what...its opening day...i fuggin&#39; love beisbol (that&#39;s like...um...spanish!) and on a "happier" note...school starts again...ugh...

  • April 3, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    happy monday

    by Darth Kal-El

    is anyone following sopranos?also, just read ultimate spidey and damn if it isnt one of my fave books every month! i have batman/superman and new avengers at the house for later. ill be back with my thoughts later! have a great day

  • April 3, 2006, 9:07 p.m. CST

    heathen!!!

    by blackthought

    holy shite!!! president logan is like fuggin&#39; lex luthor...or maybe have him wear a hoodie and pass him off as the emporer that evil bastard.

  • April 4, 2006, 7:23 a.m. CST

    My hometown&#39;s victorious!

    by Shigeru

    Haha suck it! Go Gators! I bet Gainesville was pretty nuts last night...

  • April 4, 2006, 8:11 a.m. CST

    They tell me that the Gators won?

    by The Heathen

    Hell yes they did! But, to be honest I haven&#39;t watched a full basketball game in nearly a decade. Well, a few years ago on Christmas day I did, but I was forced and bored

  • April 4, 2006, 8:52 a.m. CST

    hey now

    by blackthought

    ucla was lock down d until they met florida...why? only the basketball gods know...IC #6 tomorrow...i think "president" logan makes a cameo in it as the true cause of this crisis...holy crap...i hate the guy more and more...hoping aaron will feed him a brain bullet in the future.

  • April 4, 2006, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Aaron is the man.

    by The Heathen

    And how about Wayne Palmer? Jack & Wayne - Bring the PAIN! Favorite moment was Jack routinely taking out those guy&#39;s of Robocop&#39;s. 2 to the back, 2 to the front and a good &#39;ol slice of the jugular on the sniper. Jack Bauer

  • April 4, 2006, 11:24 a.m. CST

    oh, and The Walking Dead was really good

    by The Heathen

    unless you&#39;re a stranger.

  • April 4, 2006, 12:44 p.m. CST

    true

    by blackthought

    nothing like zombie pit fighting

  • April 4, 2006, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Ex Machina Casting

    by Fantomex

    I will cede the Malcom Jamal Warner pick. He is a good fit, but I&#39;m not sure he has the acting chops necesary. Still has a lot of Cosby feel that would jive with the character.

  • April 5, 2006, 8:54 a.m. CST

    ...LOST...

    by blackthought

  • April 5, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST

    *end scene*

    by The Heathen

  • April 5, 2006, 12:07 p.m. CST

    lost tonight

    by Darth Kal-El

    cant wait. read the lastest issue of new avengers(i dont even remember what number it is) and i agree with the majority of earlier posts on he subject. with another crossover coming that im not at all interested in i guess i can just thank marvel for saving me some money i can use for trades.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Word.

    by The Heathen

    http://tinyurl.com/jvyst ** Notice how almost a quarter of the people don&#39;t give a shit? Marvel better cool it&#39;s jets after this summer or that number will further decline rapidly.

  • April 5, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Amazing Spidey #530 is really bad

    by The Heathen

    First off, Tyler Kirkham draws Peter Parker like a teenager in a manga book. There&#39;s even a flashback scene where when Peter was bitten and he looks exactly the same as he does presently - a teen boy. That shit drives me nuts. Secondly, Peter calls Tony Stark, "Boss" around 20 times and it just annoyed me every single time. Trust me, around the tenth time it&#39;s just grating. I can&#39;t believe JMS also writes Supreme Power, which is leaps and bounds better than this. And last, the &#39;Iron Spidey&#39; costume can dhange form and look like civilian clothes, a symbiote costume, Spidey&#39;s original duds, or

  • April 5, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    im not even going to bother

    by Darth Kal-El

    to pick any of the civil war issues up after the crap that was house of m. and now theyre doing another disasembled? ok...why?im disapointed that new avengers and young avengers are going to be included in this, yet another lame ass crossover becuase i really enjoy those books and dont really want to stop reading them while this thing goes on. i guess ill always have ultimate marvel and astonishing xmen.gods i hate sucky event stories!

  • April 5, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    and

    by Darth Kal-El

    that spidey suit is fuggin ugly!

  • April 5, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    I *want* to like mainstream Marvel

    by Shigeru

    I really do. Because I grew up a Marvel zombie and I miss reading about Iron Man and Captain America and The Avengers. Now I enjoy Ultimate stuff, Astonishing X-Men, Runaways, ect...all stuff that&#39;s not really mainstream Marvel U. Millar writing a giant universe spanning event is better than Bendis writing one (cause that type of story just doesn&#39;t suit him) so I am thinking about trying Civil War. I am 99% sure I&#39;ll be burned, though.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    scariest part of that newsarama poll:

    by Shigeru

    that some people actually voted for onslaught reborn.

  • April 5, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST

    im right there with u shig

    by Darth Kal-El

    i grew up completely marvel. my exposure to the distinguished competition was only supes and batman.i *want* to like the marvel events but after house of m and secret war they just dont get the chance to screw me again. ill wait for the trades and then ill read them at barnes

  • April 5, 2006, 3:10 p.m. CST

    to be more specific

    by The Heathen

    don&#39;t let Bendis and more importantly Joey Q. get the chance to screw you again. I&#39;ll check out Civil War because of Millar, but superheroes and Bendis don&#39;t mix well with me, unless it&#39;s a book that stars Jessica and Luke that&#39;s NOT called New Avengers. Just unlike New Avengers Annual #1 I suppose. Can&#39;t beleive people actually voted for Onslaught. Onslaught, btw is the name for the drug that actually cures Marvel Zombie syndrome. I should know, I took a bunch of the stuff about a decade ago and I&#39;m cured, but I still have these urges to want to like being a zombie again. Strangest thing

  • April 5, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Did anyone read those LITG spoilers?

    by El Vale

    The ones regarding Millar&#39;s Alpha flight? Man them&#39;s tasty.

  • April 5, 2006, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Question about Lost

    by El Vale

    Did they ever show how Locke became paralized? I mean was there ever a Locke centric episode that showed his accident or whatever? Cause i think maybe he lost the use of his legs in a car crash but i&#39;m not sure how i know that, and i remember there being 2 Locke centric episodes last season: Walkabout and the one about the kidney...and this season we got the one with Leela. "It&#39;s never BEEN easy!". Man is that great line delivery or what? Anyway, yeah...

  • April 5, 2006, 4:16 p.m. CST

    J H Williams III

    by El Vale

    Frank Quitely, Eduardo Risso, Frank Miller, Adam Hughes, Brian Bolland, Bruce Timm, Cameron Stewart. Artists deserving of Solo issues. I hate everything.

  • April 5, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    vale

    by Darth Kal-El

    so far no showing of how locke became paralyzed.i was thinking more along the lines of someone did it to him no so much it was an accident but i dont have any solid proof or anything. in other news when will we get a kate and sun make out under a waterfall episode? after all the red herrings i think were owed that