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AICN Exclusive!! Script Review For Quentin Tarantino's DEATH PROOF!!

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

I can’t wait for GRINDHOUSE. I can’t wait for some of the trailers (that Danny Trejo one sounds extra-groovy), and for the Robert Rodriguez zombie flick with Michael Biehn and Tom Savini, and I really can’t wait to see what Quentin Tarantino’s got up his sleeve. This is the first concrete info we’ve had on what to expect, and even though this scooper wasn’t in love with it, I have every faith that by the time it’s gone through the process, what we get in the end is going to be outrageous and entertaining as shit. Check this out:

Hey Guys,

Long time reader, only second time submitting. Cruising around Beverly Hills last week I managed to get my hands on a little script called "Death Proof," which is Quentin Tarantino's half of the Grind House project. Figured you might be interested in hearing about it.

First, the bare bones- it clocks in at 127 pages, but is a fast read and does not fit the 1page=1minute formula. It'll fit the time constraint. Mickey Rourke's name was on the cover page, so he looks to be playing the antagonist "Stuntman Mike." Zoe Bell's name was also on it, she's a real life stunt woman who will be taking the protagonist roll of, get ready, "Zoe." She doubled for Uma Thurman in Kill Bill, Lucy Lawless in Xena, and appearantly worked for"NZ Stunts," whose website is not currently active.

The cover page is retro styled and features a muscle car with huge twin exhausts and a skull on the hood with some lightning bolts. It's billed as "A White-Hot Juggernaut at 200 mph!" It's also identified as a "Weinstein Company Production" if anyones counting.

Spoiler Free Synopsis: Stuntman Mike is, obviously, a Stuntman. He drives a wicked muscle car that he's made "Death Proof" by re-inforcing it. It's his stunt car. Mike is a stalker and a killer.

That was boring. Minor Spoilers: Mike uses his bad-ass car to track down and kill his victims. We get to see him successfully pull off a kick-ass sequence to show his method. He then sets his sights on a new set of girls who are actually stunt women (Zoe) and the game is on.

Review: I was not overly impressed. The dialogue seemed flat. It was not very clever. All of the major characters, save Stuntman Mike, are women, and Tarantino struggles to give them a voice. The plot is kind of dumb. A guy uses his car to kill people. Well, its definatly retro. Things take awhile to get going and I definatly didn't care about any of the female characters. I was hoping for most of them to die brutually. Some red is spilled, obviously, and it is pretty cool. Tarantino's visual style will save this piece though. There is one sequence that sounds so amazing on paper that it will be worth the price of admission alone. I will definatly see this movie. I'm sure the visuals will be awesome and things will come together, but as a script, if this was not written by Tarantino, most studios probably would have passed.

Major Spoilers: The majority of the script is Mike stalking down "Jungle Julia," a radio personality, and her group of friends. After he tracks them through a few bars, he offers a girl a ride home and she accepts. However, his "death proof" ride only has one seat, the drivers seat. She's stuck in a "camera box" next to him. He follows Jungle Julia's car with his passenger in tow, who has realized something is wrong. He passes Jungle Julia, spins his car around and kills the headlights. He then proceedes to ram their car head on at full speed. Tarantino's script says the whole thing plays out in slow-motion with Stuntman Mike laughing and enjoying himself, while the girls scream like mad. The crash is brutal and descriptive. Words and phrases such as "horrible," "pushed through," "squashed," "ripping her face off,"pulverizing," and "destroying" are thrown about. It will be a horribly bloody mess. I'm really excited.

Then with less than half the script to go, Mike is back on the prowl, tracking down the Stuntwomen. Its a "harrowing" chase that didn't really thrill me. Mike's character suddenly becomes frightened when the tables are turned on him and it felt very out of character. Zoe vs Mike in two badass cars. Again, the visuals will probably make this very interesting, but on paper I wasn't too excited. The cars smash into each other and one girl is stuck on the roof, slipping and slidding. I won't throw away the ending, but it's not really a surprise.

End Spoilers.

In short, the script is mediocre, but the main crash is hella-exciting and worth admission. Tarantino's visuals will save the day and I'm sure this film will be very enjoyable. Now if I only I could get my hands on R.R.'s half of the project.

If you use this, I'm:

Run-and-Gun

It’s interesting that the scripts for the various segments are all floating around as individual pieces, and not as one big GRINDHOUSE script.

Thanks for the report, Run-and-Gun. Nice work.

"Moriarty" out.





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  • March 25, 2006, 8:42 p.m. CST

    first

    by Darth Maximus

    first!

  • March 25, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST

    First Posters Suck!!

    by Darth Maximus

    Oh wait...

  • March 25, 2006, 8:44 p.m. CST

    ANy word on the fake trailers?

    by NubtheSquirrel

    I'm curious to know who they got and what the trailers are going to be. Oh, and by the way...FIRST!

  • March 25, 2006, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Better Luck Next Time Nub!!

    by Darth Maximus

    Kabong!!

  • March 25, 2006, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Now only if

    by ZombiKiller86

    they had Rodriguez and Goblin do the score for the film, it'll kick major ass.

  • March 25, 2006, 8:57 p.m. CST

    sounds like

    by Zadrock

    a little bit of Deathrace, dual, and the Wraith all tossed together. Anybody know who he's "borrowing" from in this one.

  • March 25, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST

    PS3

    by nolan bautista

  • March 25, 2006, 9:35 p.m. CST

    When did Quentin lose his cool......

    by jdean

    Pulp Fiction -- best movie ever made... ever since he seems determined to make high budget "B" movie crap. I wanted to see him do a real WWII movie not some lame ass horror.

  • March 25, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST

    this is a straight to ..

    by nolan bautista

    ..a video game production..BTW TomBodet glad to hear somebody else has seen "Day of the Animals"..Christopher George and Mrs.Lynda Day rock!! They should remake/reimagine "The Rat Patrol" next..w/CGI Christopher George and that German (Hans something) who was in "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" and is now on some soap opera

  • March 25, 2006, 9:48 p.m. CST

    eric braden..

    by nolan bautista

    that was the German guys name ahh fuck it! Like the guy says in the wedding scene in "The Deer Hunter"..Fuck it!

  • March 25, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST

    fuck it..

    by nolan bautista

    as in i'm just ramblin'..anyway, you know what would be a great remake? "Race with the Devil"..remember that? w/ Peter Fonda and Warren Oates? they were in a RV getting chased by redneck devil worshippers..ahh fuck it

  • March 25, 2006, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Tarantino's Next Script - "Sick Fuck"

    by Rebeck

    Autobiographical. Natch. Ever get the feeling if he still worked at a video store he's be moonlighting as a serial killer?

  • March 25, 2006, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Ashok0... deep???? Ahahahaha!

    by theoneofblood

    QT may have made some very fun and clever pulpy movies, but the dude is not deep by any stretch of the imagination. He specialises in flashy, punchy films that don't really "mean" anything, or prove anything. They're all about as deep as tissue paper.

  • March 25, 2006, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Tarantino is still far more interesting than Rodriguez

    by indiephantom

    but that's not saying much. The guy talks about the visual style saving this, but I'm betting it won't work as well as a B movie as "Highwaymen" did, which had a similar premise and is from the director of the awesome "The Hitcher". Tarantino could only hope to come close to either of those films. I think "Grindhouse" will be a letdown (as anthologies too often are). I thought "Sin City" sucked, but this won't do half as well. I like Tarantino, but he needs to get back in "Jackie Brown" mode. That was a smart film. "Kill Bill" was just weak, IMO.

  • March 25, 2006, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Quentin Tarantino?

    by BannedOnTheRun

    Is that guy still around?

  • March 25, 2006, 11:57 p.m. CST

    reading this reminds me of

    by white owl

    the scene in Sin City where clive owen and rosario dawson where driving around slow motion in the car and she was laughing. eh..fuck it.

  • March 26, 2006, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! + stuntman= Death Proof

    by Zeke25:17

    Sounds like a marvelous homage to Russ Meyer to me! Grind House will rock...and can you imagine how cool it could be if Tarantino or Rodriguez could get Sid Haig and Pam Grier to show up in either of the stories???

  • March 26, 2006, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Seeing Sid Haig and Pam Grier together again

    by ZombiKiller86

    would be worth the price of admission alone!

  • March 26, 2006, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Tarantino's kind of a one trick pony

    by slone13

    I enjoy the trick, but at least Rodriguez tries different things

  • March 26, 2006, 12:29 a.m. CST

    I met Zoe Bell at the Alamo Drafthouse during SXSW...

    by Rearden

    ...a couple years ago at a screening of Double Dare, and I don't think there was a single guy there who didn't fall in love with her. She is immediately appealing in that just-one-of-the-guys sense, but it's the accent that does it for me.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:18 a.m. CST

    hella HELLA heLlA COOL

    by meta4

    i hate that word...i knew something was wrong with this review and when he used the word "hella" it confirmed it. when have ANY of Tarantino's scripts sounded good on paper? it's the way he takes shitty scripts and transforms them into works of art that matters...fuck the reviewer can't wait for Grind-House! (or is it just being called "Grind" now?)

  • March 26, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Inglorious Bastards+ Jason Movie

    by meta4

    Was this supposed to be the Jason movie all along? not that its a jason movie but its a slasher flick...and where the fuck is the war movie?!

  • March 26, 2006, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Let me guess what the script looks like:

    by DerLanghaarige

    264 pages. 200 of them are filled with pointless and annoying dialogue.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Now I read the review.

    by DerLanghaarige

    I was almost right! And I have to say it again: TARANTINO SUCKS BIG TIME!!!! Reservoir Dogs was great, Kill Bill 1 was entertaining. That's it.

  • March 26, 2006, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Hey slone13,

    by mrtorrance

    your anus smells.

  • March 26, 2006, 2:29 a.m. CST

    Zoe Bell

    by Gwai Lo

    Doesn't look like lead actress material. She looks like the poor woman's version of Uma Thurman, and Uma Thurman looks kind of weird. Plus she's a stuntwoman, can she deliver Tarantino's obtuse dialog? I guess it doesn't really matter, Mickey Rourke as the lead in an exploitation type deal seals it for me. I agree with whoever said he'd like to see a return to the Jackie Brown form, I also think that was his high point. I'd probably rank his films best to worst as follows: Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill Volume 2, Kill Bill Volume 1, Reservoir Dogs. Frankly, I'd like to see him do something different. He's been doing caper movies for quite a while. How bout something grown up? Looks like he's heading in the opposite direction... I'll still probably see and and enjoy Grindhouse..

  • March 26, 2006, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Well I'm anxiously awaiting the release of Grindhouse

    by Undead Neverhood

    Anyone here know of a possible release date for that yet?

  • March 26, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Nevermind I got it.

    by Undead Neverhood

    It says at movieweb December 1st, 2006. Oh this movie promises so much coolness. I can't wait.

  • March 26, 2006, 3:20 a.m. CST

    You know this movie has got to have

    by Doc_Strange

    The obligatory self-indulgent, wannabe prolific musings of Tarantino's writing talking about Superman or Royales with cheese, foot rubs, or explanations about the lethality of Black Mamba snakes. It's impossible for any of his movies to not have one of those. Very annoying.

  • March 26, 2006, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Sounds like last year's Highwaymen...

    by Superdudebobby

    ...an unpretensious straight-to-video B-movie starring Jim "Jesus" Caviezel and directed by Roger "The Hitcher" Harmon. Not quite the same (it's more of a standard psycho-killer story and wasn't particularly gory) but it has several similar elements, including the indestructable killer car.

  • March 26, 2006, 3:53 a.m. CST

    Sounds completely masturbatory...

    by dr_buggerlugs

    ...can't he actually sit down and finish the bloody script for Inglorious Bastards? I think the majority of us would rather see that?

  • March 26, 2006, 3:55 a.m. CST

    WW2 Vet + Heart Attack + Farmer's Market = Death Proof

    by JAGUART

    The stuff in this script happens every week in Florida.

  • March 26, 2006, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Dear Mr. Tarantino

    by Stollentroll

    Dear Mr. Tarantino, you're certainly a genius movie director and all. So why wasting your precious time with stuff like this? Do the WWII-project for god's sake! Let Robert do his dumb movies alone. Everything he's ever done is SO lame (okay, maybe the first hour of From Dusk Till Dawn is worth seeing). Start working on "Inglorious Bastards" now - I can't wait to see Michael Madsen beating up a bunch of Nazis in some french castle with Edith Piaf background music.

  • March 26, 2006, 5:21 a.m. CST

    gotta say the premise sounds ultra-ultra-lame

    by freak2thec0re

    I really think anyone would be stretching to say it sounds anything but. However . . . I do have faith in Tarantino, and have confidence in his vision, so we will see what happens

  • March 26, 2006, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Definatly!

    by 3 Bag Enema

    ...hard to take the reviewer seriously. I am excited about Michael Biehn, though. And not in a gay way. Maybe this will encourage Cameron to use Biehn as the lead in Avatar. But I digress.

  • March 26, 2006, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Doc_Strange, and all the haters...

    by 3 Bag Enema

    Shut up and go get me a gin and tonic. Make it snappy, shitbird.

  • March 26, 2006, 8 a.m. CST

    enough on Quentin

    by silentjay

    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe this is the type of stuff Tarantino likes to do? It may not fit our mold of what we think he should do, but so far his instincts have not proved wrong. If any of us read the script for Res Dogs prior to its release, we would be ripping apart lines like "Are you going to bark all day little doggie?" and "Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?" We also need to keep in consideration the main project at hand here: Grindhouse. What do you want to see in this, "Remains of the Day?" Grindhouse cinema is predicated on B-movie schlock and cheesy, pointless violence. Its not a critically-acclaimed genre by any stretch of the imagination and I bet Tarantino doesn't give a Clarence Worley about its appeal to film theorists. Given Tarantino's skill at character development and behind the camera, I think we all owe him the benefit of the doubt on this one. And jesus, if people on this site can't back the work of guys like Tarantino and Rodriguez, then who will?

  • March 26, 2006, 9:02 a.m. CST

    I'm not a QT hater, just think he's a hack

    by Drunken Rage

    He's shown some flashes of talent, apparently has a very good way with actors and has stolen shots and framing ideas from better directors. But I've been able to understand the hype. Oh, and I very fondly remember "Race With the Devil" and think it could be updated effectively -- it looks amazingly tame today.

  • March 26, 2006, 9:03 a.m. CST

    yup........

    by The Bobman

    It's Highwaymen alright- only now cheese somehow manages to become cool. By the way- anyone notice how Tarantino now very clsely resembles his Vampire self in from Dusk til Dawn? Odd!

  • March 26, 2006, 9:22 a.m. CST

    it's sad that 127 pages is thought "bare bones"

    by HypeEndsHere

    does anyone else feel like with all these horror and superhero/sci-fi movies and karate and explosions and spies and PG titilation that it's the day after Halloween? i mean, i'm sick of the sugar rush. can't we get a film like The Conversation anymore? or any Jack Nicholson film from the 70s? i'm so very tired of the over-stimulation.

  • March 26, 2006, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Yay! Exploitation Films! Yay!

    by ZombieSolutions

    sure its been done to death, but thats what its all about! shock cinema is dumb and fun and its supposed to be. turn off your brain and have some fun. KILL BILL was Tarantinos best film; likewise SIN CITY is Rodriguez's best. they should continue playing to their strengths and churn out films like this at least once a year. i'm glad they are finind their inner-Miike. nothin' wrong with having fun and being irresponsible. its all just entertainment after all.

  • March 26, 2006, 12:06 p.m. CST

    The World Domination League - http://tinyurl.com/mfuxy

    by HypeEndsHere

    "You've been dominated. Ha ha." -- E.L. Wisty

  • March 26, 2006, 12:10 p.m. CST

    "Turn off your brain ... "

    by Flickerhead

    I have to turn off my brain to enjoy it? No thanks. Add my name to the list of people who feel that QT is destroying himself and his legacy. His first three movies were fantastic. "Kill Bill" was fun, but it walked the "meaningless" line a bit too precariously. Then came "Hostel" (why the FUCK would he put his name on that trash?), and now this? "Sort your fucking life out, mate!"

  • March 26, 2006, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Ha! Maybe QT wrote "Snakes On A Plane" too!

    by fiester

    That movie sounds terrible.

  • March 26, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Theres Not Really That Much Difference Btwn QTs Films

    by ZombieSolutions

    I'm not quite clear on how KILL BILL is all that different from Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. all three fall roughly within the realm of over-the-top genre/exploitation. certainly KILL BILL cranks that notch up quite a bit, but I would argue, brilliantly and intentionally. regardless, all of his films are cartoonish and far-fetched. does anything that happens in R Dogs of Pulp Fiction seem even remotely realistic? not to me. perhaps one could argue that Jackie Brown is more "realistic," but its also his least enjoyable film (a decent movie, but definately not a classic by any stretch of the imagination). at any rate, somewhere along the line somebody got confused that his first two films were meticulously crafted scholarly works of genius when they were, in fact, early forrays into joining the grindhouse with the arthouse; trash art epics. KILL BILL, on the other hand, is the most fun (and funny) of the whole bunch; and, I would argue the most fully realized trash art vision; the one he's been wanting to make since day one (I reckon). But thats all IMHO.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Let Me Get This Straight

    by DannyOcean01

    Tarantino and Rodriguez are intentionally making shit films because of this whole Grindhouse concept....sounds more like he's stalling because he can't get that Inglorious Bastards off the ground.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST

    hostel was trash?

    by white owl

    as compared to... what? house of wax? cry wolf? venom? Hostel was a damned good movie for today's horror standards, I thought.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    So Tarantino's cool 90's dialogue is officially dead?!

    by Neo Zeed

    NO more cool dialogue like any scene from Pulp Fiction, Res. Dogs, Dusk 'till Dawn, Jackie Brown, True Romance? I don't care if the Tarantino copycat hacks from the 90s tried to steal his thunder, that doesn't make his dialogue style obsolete! All anyone has to do is watch any of those flicks above and see why Tarantino was the master and shouldn't abandon his style for flat dialogue and simple ass lines like..."I'm Buck and I like to fuck." or "as a matter of fact...yeah I did" If he wants to do exploitation style shit..then cool! But why not have cool dialogue and exploitation style visuals/story? I'm tired of Tarantino trying to shit on his past. Thers's no excuse for boring dialogue when we know he can do WAY better(and we like it better!)Grindhouse (at least from this review) sounds like the cool dialogue is gone again and that's a shame.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST

    This sounds lame.

    by chickychow

    don't care how "authentic" this 70s trash feels, I'm not really into watching cars drive around smashing into people and each other. And people, we've got to get over this Mickey Rourke faze. I mean, he just isn't THAT cool. I can't believe it's only me. . .

  • March 26, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Say what you want about Rodriguez being trash...

    by DanielKurland

    but watch his segment in "Four Rooms", "The Misbehavers", and honestly tell me that that isn't one of the most fantastic things you've ever seen. I bought the movie simply for that (and to a lesser extent for Tarantino's segment, with the awesome crane shot at the end).

  • March 26, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    I think he wrote it this way on purpose....

    by theopholly

    ...you know, because it's supposed to be a cheesy grindhouse flick? C'mon people, get with the program. I wouldn't expect anything less than a cheesy storyline and flat dialogue from a grindhouse feature. He obviously did it on purpose.

  • March 26, 2006, 1:53 p.m. CST

    If this had been written in 1981...

    by LilOgre

    It would be the CBS Friday night movie starring Angie Dickinson and Russ Tamblyn with Frank Gorshin as "Kehoe" and Abe Vigoda as "Chameleon" or something. In fact, I remember seeing this film when I was a kid on CBS and it was called "Death Car on The Freeway" and the car played "Devil Went Down To Georgia" and stalked women. Somehow though, I doubt QT, could make it that cool and true to spirit. Still I like the direction that he's going.

  • March 26, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    I will probably also "definatly" see this...

    by The Dude Abides

    I mean definitely. I will probably also definitely see this movie.

  • March 26, 2006, 2:45 p.m. CST

    So, Pai Mei should've told us Cantonese for "Big Mac "?

    by BrandLoyalist

    Was just about to post the same point you make, theopholly, but it bears repeating. Compare this to grindhouse movies, not freakin' Resevoir Dogs! How could this reviewer forget what he was supposed to be reading?

  • March 26, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST

    A killer fucking CAR alright?

    by Goatboy

    And it, like, stalks this chick ok, and she totally like, Lee Marvin's this fucking car alright? And then it's like HOLY FUCK the car goes Kurosawa on her, alright, so the chick and her gang of killer chicks, they're like, called "Hot Killa Drilla Chicks" ok? They seek revenge on the car, and then the car like, turns Burt Reynolds and shit ok? And they all totally kill everything, alright, and The Meters are on the soundtrack ok? Now where's my mound of cocaine and cold press for my, like, enormo-dome forehead alright?

  • March 26, 2006, 3:52 p.m. CST

    "Better than Kubrick, Capra or Wilder? Not necessarily"

    by HypeEndsHere

    How about just a fuckin' NO, mate?..... oh, and this isn't a trashy film. it's a faux-trashy film. which smacks of effort, rendering it as cool as UGGS and a trucker hat.

  • March 26, 2006, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Tom Savini's in Grindhouse?

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    That's cool. Did anyone see Zombiegeddon where he plays Jesus? That was a weird fucking movie but pretty cool. Good to know Savini's still got it. I hope Grindhouse is as good as Zombiegeddon. That would totally kick ass.

  • March 26, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST

    my ego is reeling.

    by HypeEndsHere

    watch that enter button. it's a bitch when you talk tough and fuckup like that.

  • March 26, 2006, 4:14 p.m. CST

    The problem wit QT.

    by Alex The Bloody

    One of the reasons Inglorius Bastard would be so good is that he would almost half to cut out all his popculture refrencing bullshit and thus having 200 extra pagees to work with. His action scenes are pretty bad ass and it would be nice to see a good WWII ACTION movie like Kellys Heroes or something.

  • March 26, 2006, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Oh..

    by Alex The Bloody

    and Liev Shrieber for Rorshack, but with red hair of course

  • March 26, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Awful Horrible Dreadful Atrocious Garbage

    by Bari Umenema

    This script is 127 pieces of toilet paper. Anybody who spends money to see this bullshit celluloid trash deserves to have his or her face ripped off in a head-on crash on the way home from the theater or video store. This is pure shit and it deserves to be flushed down the toilet with all the other shit. A total waste of time and money and energy. Disgraceful that some of you asswipes will line up to fork over your hard earned money for this crap.

  • March 26, 2006, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Here's the thing about Grindhouse.

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Some of us here grew up on movies like this. Some of us have real affection for the genre. If your childhood passed through the mid 70s to mid 80s and your family was at all into movies this was what you cut your cinematic teeth on. I grew up in Kansas City, so it was either the drive-in or the old Midland and Empire theaters downtown. They'd play a garish trailer for a movie like The Redeemer or The Children or The Car, garish trailers with the Trailer Guy's voice telling you just how bad things were, and you knew it was going to be crap but you were sold. And there was a genuine love of movies in an awful lot of that crap, and there were moments of real brilliance mixed into the incompetence, because these were guys working without the homogenizing film school influence that makes today's bad movies just incompetently made clones of better ones. Tarantino and Rodriguez are of an age that would make them children of that cinema, and they want to make a night at the movies, and more power to them. Rare that I would say this, but I don't even care if they do it well. Thanks for doing it at all, guys. As for Tarantino, the Kill Bill movies are extraordinary accomplishments, and when the next generation of filmmakers enter the scene it will be one of the movies they reference as a major influence on their work. And maybe because of that they'll check out some movies like Five Deadly Venoms, Lady Snowbird, They Call Her One-Eye, all grindhouse, all alive in the Kill Bill films. Where Tarantino ranks among the major directors of all time will be decided with what he does over the next couple decades, but anyone who thinks he isn't off to an awfully good start doesn't know their movies.

  • March 26, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Benefit of the doubt

    by voxmortis

    I wouldn't trust the review of someone who can't spell 'definitely'. QT is a real talent, he'll make it work. Rodriguez will play him off the stage though... can't wait.

  • March 27, 2006, 12:27 a.m. CST

    LINDSAY LOHAN AS WONDER WOMAN? OH HELL NO

    by ClassyBlassie

    Hey, check Yahoo! News and check this out: http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/fs/20060323/114313954600.html. Lindsay Lohan a possibility as Wonder Woman? This world is going to Hell....what's next, Paris Hilton as Supergirl?

  • March 27, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    whotf cares? tarantico blah blah zzz

    by watashiwadare

    someday the 38 yr old teenagers will grow up and worship something else maybe.

  • March 27, 2006, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Shut the fuck up, ClassyBlassie

    by kintar0

    What's fucking gained by you repeating that and providing a link to it? Yeah, great idea, point out and gather attention for a truly awful idea. Even worse than having Whedon write and direct in the first place. Not to mention this is only Lohan doing her Sean Young impression. Let's just let this one die.

  • March 27, 2006, 1:40 a.m. CST

    To Classyblassie

    by Thes

    If Lindsay was the choice it wouldn't be that bad. I mean it could be worse. I trust Josh Whedon to make a kick-ass wonder woman!

  • March 27, 2006, 6:50 a.m. CST

    But mimicking isn't clever!

    by Demon Disco

    Unless, of course, you actually have something to say. It's just like this supposed new wave horror revolution. Ooh, look! Our films hark back to the gritty 70s exploitationers! How clever! Er - nope. You're just doing the same thing. Again. From what I gather, QT and RR are making these flicks intentionally bad. Well, couldn't we all fucking do that? Talk about audience and critic-proofing yourselves! 'No, man - the films sucked because they were supposed to suck!' Which brings me neatly back to my opening salvo. Unless they are making a wry comment on the nature of these movies (and surely the best way to do that would be to poke fun at the conventions of grindhouse cinema, much in the same way Scream did with slasher movies)what the hell is the point? If they're just making straight forward exploitation flicks because, hell, the wan to, fair enough for them - just don't expect me to be blown away or respectful because any asshole can copy. I'VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. Yawn. Next...

  • March 27, 2006, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Wow, Demon Disco

    by FluffyUnbound

    You seriously think the best way to poke fun at the conventions of a genre is to take the "Scream" approach? Wow. Your sophistication takes my breath away. You better dial it back a bit or some of the people around here might not be able to follow your avant-garde approach. You're just a little too far "out there".

  • March 27, 2006, 8:37 a.m. CST

    The point, Demon Disco...

    by Tony Mike Hall

    is money. The same point behind every movie. You've seen it all before, huh? Well, you know what I've seen before? This whole bullshit "Tarantino's films are too derivative" argument. It's boring. You don't like what they're selling? Don't buy it. He's not asking for your respect, he's asking for your money. Get with the program.

  • March 27, 2006, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Goatboy should've written the script.

    by Childe Roland

    He does a better Tarantino than QT these days. Actually, that's the difference between a Kill Bill and a Reservoir Dogs, for whoever asked. Reservoir Dogs QT was young and hungry and excited (granted, just as coked to the gills, but his tolerance for the stuff was lower then so it had a more profound impact). Kill Bill QT was going through the motions. And, most importantly, the difference is in the dialogue (not the Tips, Mr. White). Young QT had something to say and he said it beautifully through his characters in True Romance, Dogs and Pulp Ficiton. Older QT has nothing to say at all. He just wants people to tell him how cool his visual stylings are. Well, his visual stylings were never all that cool. They were riffs on other people's visual stylings, run through a red filter. WHat he always did best was write character and dialogue. Now he apparently feels he's above that shit. Whatever. Good luck with INglorious Bastards. Because a war film without character is exactly what U.S. audiences are clamoring for these days.

  • March 27, 2006, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Include a $5 with your QT myth-bustin' posts today

    by BrandLoyalist

    IMDB sez it's his birthday. QT haters: Bahamut has posted the website of your leader. Site is in need of an emergency visit from the honeydipper. So sayeth the Dan: "Hot licks and rhetoric don't count much for nothin / Be glad if you can uuuuse whatcha borrow"

  • March 27, 2006, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I HOPE THIS IS FAKE

    by El Scorcho

    Because it sounds fucking awful.

  • March 27, 2006, 11:18 a.m. CST

    "When did Quentin lose his cool......"

    by ewokstew

    After he snubbed me at the Arclight in Hollywood. He was just cruisin by himself on a Sunday afternoon and obviously decided to catch a flick. There was no one else coming up to him so I just decided to say a simple "hi" no gushing or stalking, just a simple. "Hi, Mr. Tarantino, I really enjoy your work, just wanted to say that" He looks at me like I set his dog and fire and goes. "yeah" then walks away. Jerk.

  • March 27, 2006, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Oh, trust me, BK...

    by Childe Roland

    ...I know Roger was the more talented wordsmith of the two and it's no coincidence that my favorite three QT scripts were penned during their collaborative days. But I suspect, on some level, that what Avary so eloquently put down on the page came, at least in part, from a desire on QT's part to try and say something (the guy loves the sound of his own voice too much not to have one of his own buried somewhere in there). I was one of the earliest proponenets of an Avary-centered Tarantinoverse, and many a bitter fanboy wanted to burn me at the stake for saying it was so. But you and I appear to be very much on the same page in terms of our interpretations of who wore the truly talented pants in that "partnership." Without Avary, QT is Garfunkel without Simon.

  • March 27, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Red Ned Lynch

    by Flickerhead

    " ... you knew it was going to be crap but you were sold ... I don't even care if they do it well." Look, I know where you're coming from, but I don't understand why anyone would want to propagate poor filmmaking. Demon Disco has it almost right. They don't necessarily have to make a "wry" comment on the films they grew up with, but they should be doing *something* other than mimicking them, otherwise it's just masturbation. If you like those old flicks, go back and watch 'em. But it'd be nice if today's filmmakers were interested in creating cinematic history instead of reliving it.

  • March 27, 2006, 11:49 a.m. CST

    by Elohim

  • March 27, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Not to be a dick...

    by Elohim

    But please people, it's spelled "definitely."

  • March 27, 2006, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Oooh...thought of another one: Without Avary...

    by Childe Roland

    ...QT is Lee without Kirby. In fact, I like that better.

  • March 27, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Without Avary, QT is like Mary-Kate without Ashley

    by rev_skarekroe

  • March 27, 2006, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Without Avary, QT is like ...

    by Flickerhead

    ... Lucas without Kurtz.

  • March 27, 2006, 1:06 p.m. CST

    "entertaining as shit"

    by RealDoubleJ

    you find shit entertaining? Note to Moriarty: find something else to use as a comparison for entertainment.

  • March 27, 2006, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Disregard RealDoubleJ's advice, Mori.

    by Childe Roland

    Shit (by any name) is as funny now as it ever was and ever shall be. Only four other things are in the same category of timeless inherent funniness: Monkeys, Midgets, Farts and the concept of organized religion. Carry on, Mori. Oh... and I'm rather fond of the "Lucas ithout Kurtz" comparison, Flickerhead. Kudos on that one.

  • March 27, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Flatuant Bible Thumping Midget Monkeys From Mars

    by Uncapie

    Produced by Childe Roland and Uncapie. Starring Gary Coleman, Eddie Deezen and Brooke Shields as "The Mayor." Coming this summer. A Weinstein Release.

  • March 27, 2006, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Without Avary, QT is like...

    by Tony Mike Hall

    Wachowski without Wachowski.

  • March 27, 2006, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Nice one, Uncapie.

    by Childe Roland

    And if we offer QT several lines of blow off a hooker's tats, I'm pretty sure we can get a "Quentin Tarantino Presents" on the posters. The trailer could open with a long shot of a gothic-style church. Lots of stained glass and a single, furry form kneeling near the candles at the front. The voice over could go something like: If a monkey farts in church [cue flare up of candle], can a midget refrain from laughing at it [show Coleman stifling giggles in the back pew]? What if his very life depended on it? [monkey turns with evil, stern gaze -- cue drum-beat montage of footage showing monkeys terrorizing small-town community and throwing their own feces -- fade to momentary black and then flash to Coleman, making a stern face mere inches from a monkey's sneer, saying: "What'chu laughin' bout monkey?"

  • March 27, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST

    this is not going to be bad

    by shalashaska

    alot of ideas are shitty on paper but with the right person in charge, can be really goood. quentin will make sure it wont suck,

  • March 27, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    insider info coming up

    by TarantinoWebsite

    some birds whispered to me from a tree that there's gonna be more insider info coming up. there are two places you can expect scoop to come up soon: www.tarantino.info (of course) and cinemawhore.proboards60.com/index.cgi don't make judgements about this flick until you've seen it. what's a script review worth anyway?

  • March 27, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST

    "Greasy Loose Stool"..... a Weinstein Release

    by HypeEndsHere

    Sam Jackson and Tim Allen work in a stool factory that is purchased by an Ikea-like company. the company's head allows his daughter (played by Lindsay Lohan) to run the factory. if they can produce 4,000 quality stools in a month, the factory stays open. A political thriller.

  • March 27, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    As boring as everything else he's written since 1994

    by richsmith

    The idea that anybody still gives a damn about Tarantino is truly depressing.

  • March 27, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    without Avary, QT is ...

    by pistolopera

    ... lucky enough to not have the weakest scenes in "pulp fiction" -- the ones with that annoying french bitch -- that were avary's primary contribution to the script ... whoever said earlier that "dogs" and "pulp" have been mythically elevated to this ridiculous standard of timeless genius is DEAD ON ... all of QT's stuff is in the same basic mold, and anyone who can't recognize the brilliance of "kill bill" is not worth talking to about movies in my book ... in many ways, QT as a film-maker resembles george lucas: he uses his adolescent influences/obsessions to tell tales that are actually quite grand in scope, EPICS, if i dare be so bold ... they're alchemists, turning the base matter of pulp fiction and kung-fu films (or sci-fi serials) into cinematic GOLD ... both QT and lucas are, like shakespeare, using the accessible/fun/pop-culture/recognizable universally-understood signposts of the day to relate timeless myth-like morality plays, the likes of which were told around fires by elders long before the advent of film or even print ... THAT is why they're both so successful (and simultaneously brilliant), and that is why "haters" don't really understand either one of these visionaries -- because they don't understand what ART is!! ... all the aint-it-cool geekboy haters care about is stupid toys, stunts, and special effects

  • March 27, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST

    So what you're saying, pistolopera...

    by Childe Roland

    ...is that Tarantino is like Lucas. Good. We agree. He was involved in the making of three great films and then made some bafflingly bad shit more recently and with more direct "creative control." Thanks for the pretension...and for working in a "haters" reference, proving you haven't really earned it.

  • March 27, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Tarantino has bought into his own hype.

    by Josh Town

    He was cool when he wasn't trying to be cool. Now he tries way too hard, and it just ends up sub par.

  • March 27, 2006, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Yeah...but I read the firts draft of Kill Bill and....

    by LHombreSiniestro

    After seeing the Volume 1, I began to damn near worship it. I read the first draft he had, and I was underwhelmed with it as a script, but the movies turned out fan-fucking-tastic. So I'm sure this will be a bad motherfucker of a movie. As long as he throws in a Goblin tune or two.

  • March 27, 2006, 7:55 p.m. CST

    wait- - what?

    by HypeEndsHere

    "Hidden Fortress sucks"? that sounds like something someone who really likes Star Wars would sa after they found out Lucas's inspiration and went and rented it and actually watched a "film" only to be let down because it wasn't "badass" enough. you're not that kind of douche bag, are you?

  • March 27, 2006, 8:09 p.m. CST

    wow.

    by HypeEndsHere

    okay...I--um....okay. I'll deal with that.

  • March 27, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Wow,

    by Samuel Steamer

    That's crazy. I hope that description was BS. That is not what I expect from those guys. Even if RR pulls out a masterpiece, the other half sounds like it will leave a bitter taste in alot of peoples mouths. I am a long time QT supporter but that just read as gratuitous and mean spirited. I guess this one will be for the Devil's Rejects crowd. I will make my decision based on the trailer when it come out. I didn't enjoy this "reviewer" getting off while decsribing how delicious a scene that had a woman being mutilated was. I hope this is not acurate.

  • March 27, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Yawn...

    by j_nuh

    Tarantino sucks! NO, he doesn't! Yes, He does! All his movies blow! NO, they don't! Yes, they do! Blah, blah blah...

  • March 28, 2006, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Most excellent Childe Roland and Hype Ends Here.

    by Uncapie

    Maybe we can get these two flicks on a double bill. Filmed in "Chimp-O-Rama." Free stool sample with every ticket purchased. Its a marketing bonanza!

  • March 28, 2006, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Flickerhead...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...you're right, and I will care if it isn't good. But I'll still be grateful to them for taking the shot whether it's good or bad. But as for the commenting on those films as well as recreating them, I take that almost as a given because of who is involved. And I know you didn't say this, but someone else did earlier, and can you really imagine anything more depressingly rote and by the numbers as a "Scream" style commentary on these films, a lumbering, slack-jawed moron of a film screaming "hey, look at me everbody! I'ma being clever. I is self-aware!". There were a thousand moments in the Kill Bill films that commented on the genre and the 70s milieu from which they arose. And there was a free-spirited mixing of wildly divergent film traditions, the same sort of thing say a Stephen Chow does. Probably my favorite moment in those films is right after the short fight between Uma and David, when she responds to the question of whether someone taught her something with "Of course he did". There is more, and more subtle commentary, a more delicious valentine to all the movies on whose shoulders the Kill Bill movies stand, than in all the endless hours of "don't say you'll be right back" face slapping in the Scream movies. And the brilliance of it is that one of the many purposes the line serves, other than saying "of course he did, what kind of movie do you think we're in" and "who else would he have taught it to", reveals the last hidden truth of Bill's character. Of course Pei Mei taught Beatrix. That was why Bill sent her to him, so that on this night she would be sure to kill him. That's using the old to build the new. Regurgitation is the whole generation of Hollywood filmmakers schooled on the script for Chinatown, taught the three act structure like religious dogma. You know, Sleepy Hollow wasn't a perfect movie either, but Burton put on film the Hammer Horror movie a lot of us grew up seeing inside our heads while we watched those movies on grubby old drive-in screens, and I'll always be grateful. If Grindhouse turns out the same way, or even not as good, well I'd still rather see it than most stuff. No, not more than visionary, daring, original filmmaking. But most stuff that I will actually see made.

  • March 28, 2006, 2:02 a.m. CST

    FUCK YOU 3 BAG ENEMA!!!

    by Doc_Strange

    Yeah you BITCH!!!

  • March 28, 2006, 2:09 a.m. CST

    A new QT film? Cool!

    by darthSaul666

    When I watched Kill Bill it made me want to watch an Akira Kurasowa film instead. Resevoir Dogs was the coolest when I saw it the 1st time mainly because I had to be content with Tim Burton's vision of Batman.... ( which was never as authentic as Chris Nolan's ) It's never good to fear that which you don't need to buy into. If this film turns out good I'd go see it.

  • March 28, 2006, 2:47 a.m. CST

    I remembered when critics reviewed the Kill Bill script

    by Kampbell-Kid

    ...they said it was horrible. The end film result was brilliant.

  • March 28, 2006, 4 a.m. CST

    QT Rips off Highwaymen!!!!!!

    by Ecto-1

    Y'know, I was really curious as to which genre film or films QT was gonna rip off and plagiarize. And it seems that he's chosen Highwaymen.

  • March 28, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Avary's a genius! Just look at his classic post-QT work

    by oceansized

    There's...uh. (Crickets chirp)Hmm. Did some tumbleweed just go through the talkback?

  • March 28, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Bah-Kun

    by Red Ned Lynch

    Well, they buried Soccer so well that everyone I know, out here in the red hinterlands of the midwest, has seen it, and it played on a bunch of screens in town. Is that what buried means now? And did you even see Craven's Cursed, one of the most rip-off laden, desperately pop-culture whoring, cliche ridden mess ever made? You know, Craven's turned out a couple decent films, but his shit to cream ratio is awful. And Sleepy Hollow? Geez. Maybe you'll do better when someone makes a film of Rip Van Winkle and films the two hundred years he's asleep. Burton made a beautiful homage to his influences as a filmmaker, the old AIP, Hammer and Amicus horror films of the sixties. And part of that IS taking some bit of classic literary (but horribly ill suited for a film) source material and then mostly ignoring it except for the title. Let's see...like The Raven, with Price, Karloff and Lorre playing dueling magicians? Like the Haunted Palace, named for a poem by Poe but borrowing most of its plot from the Lovecraft story The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward? Want another hundred examples. You just don't have the knowledge of film to understand what he was doing. Sort of like your reaction to QT. Because a lot of what he's doing is subtle, you just don't get it. That's okay. There's always "Don't say you'll be right back" to fall back on.

  • March 29, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Tom Savini Set Report

    by Brendon

    There was a set report at Savini.com, but it got pulled. Have no fear - I had it saved, and have now returned it to the www at http://tinyurl.com/lwv5r The Weinstein legal knifemen are probably on their way to me already...

  • June 14, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST

    This post is bullshit.

    by heywood jablomie

    This plot synopsis--almost identically--was printed months ago at www.tarantino.info. I seriously doubt this guy read it. And even if he did, he's "definatly" an illitterrutt.