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Quint goes over the 10 minutes of LADY IN THE WATER that screened at ShoWest!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here again with another ShoWest footage round-up!


M. Night Shyamalan came out to introduce the clip after both the POSEIDON clip and the SUPERMAN RETURNS clip and was having second thoughts about showing his footage. He said the previous two films' directors had chosen to pick the big, heavy hitting clips and Shyamalan chose to just bring a solid 10 minute clip from Act 1 of LADY IN THE WATER, saying he wanted to give an accurate representation of his movie by just picking a whole scene and not constructing a montage. He said that his films always have his voice very strongly implanted within them. Whether you like what his voice is saying or not, it's at least his own.

He also made sure to say that he felt very much inspired by movies like E.T. when this story was bubbling up in his brain, noting we haven't had a movie like E.T. for the next generation. That's what he was aiming for.

The clip starts with Paul Giamatti walking back to his little super intendant's shack next to a pool. As he approaches the little path that leads to his door the sprinkler system turns on. This is all one, long shot with the camera pretty far back. Giamatti stops and his body language is pretty much, "Of course..." He tucks his head low and hobbles up the path at a half-run, getting wet all the way up to his door.

We cut to inside his little abode and he's crashed out in front of the TV. Images of the Iraq war are on the tube bottom left of the frame. The window outside showing the swimming pool is the upper right side of the frame. There's obviously something in the water. Giammati is slumbering and he's jolted awake by one of the explosions on the TV. He goes to the sink, facing the camera in an extreme close up, the window to the pool over his shoulder. Something moves in the pool, noisily enough to draw his attention.

He leaves his little house and walks to the pool... It's dark, the water is not clear at all. "Hello?" He gets no response. He looks around... There's nothing. He's about to turn away when something moves in the water. He jerks his flashlight to the pool again. Then there's a glimpse of a person surfacing and sinking again. No real detail, just something vaguely human. "I saw you!!! I saw you!! (pause) Come out of that pool right now!"

The water is still.

"I'm going to wait..." Pause. "Hey... Hey? C-c-come on out now." His tone has changed from pissed off to worried. His stutter pops up for the first time (in the footage at least). "I-i-it's not safe... P-p-please..." Pleading now, his stutter getting worse. The water is still calm.

Clothes and all, Giamatti steps into the pool... water up to his ankles, then to his knees, then to his hips and chest. He dives underneath, looking for the person. He's almost frantic. He can't find them. The water's almost black. He can't find anything, he's out of breath and confused. He pulls himself out of the pool. Sitting at the side... There's a sudden movement and he freaks, slipping on the pool's edge as he tries to run away. He falls and hits his head, passing out. His body is teetering on the edge of the pool. He falls in, unconscious.

Cut to him waking up in his cottage. He sees Bryce Dallas Howard, seemingly naked except for one of his shirts, sitting with her knees pulled up to her chest, her red hair shaggy, spilling over her shoulders. Her pale eyes are wide, like a child's. She has a red gash on her right calf, which stands out against her pale complexion. Giamatti (in a whisper): "Did you pull me out?" She nods.

"Where are you from?" Howard: "The blue world." Giamatti: "Is that an apartment?" This whole part is played in whispers. I don't want to give away the whole bit since, unlike the previous clips, this is a solid continuing bit from the movie, but suffice it to say that you get to know a bit about Howard and Giamatti. He urges her to go, she's obviously scared. Doesn't want to go. He says, "You can wait here a little bit... until you're not so scared."

She curls up next to Giamatti and falls asleep. He looks at her and whispers to himself, "Oh my God... She's just a kid."

He falls asleep, too and wakes up with her pretty much entangled in him, her legs over his lap, etc. He tells her it's time to go... she's still asleep. He says they need some fresh air, so he picks her up and walks her outside. He mutters something about putting her outside, on one of the pool chairs to finish sleeping.

He walks her outside. It's still night time. As he walks, something stalks in the foliage next to the cottage. Something on all fours... almost lion-like. There's a deep growling... We see Howard and Giamatti through this creature's eyes. Giamatti hears the growling and stops in his tracks, Howard still curled up in his arms. He looks around, sees something moving. The creature makes a louder sound. Howard's eyes open. She hears it and screams, which gets a roar from this creature. The screaming woman in his arms and the roaring creature obscured by the darkness and brush start Giamatti screaming and he turns back to the cottage, running full out with this screaming woman and the bushes to the side of the cottage rustling as the creature runs by his side, just behind him.

The glimpse of the creature we get was very brief, but it did look like a sort of saber-toothed tiger. The creature was CGI. Other than that, I couldn't give you much more detail. Giamatti makes it to the door, throws it open just in time and slams it shut.

Out of breath on the other side of the door, Giamatti says, "Was that a dog? A hyena? Are there wolves in this part of the world?" Howard (calm, but scared): "It was not a dog. I am sorry." Giamatti: "It's not your fault..." Her looks seems to disagree. That's where the clip ended.

I've only disliked one of Shyamalan's flicks (not counting his Rosie movie) and that was his last, THE VILLAGE. I liked a lot in that movie. The man creates suspense and mystery better than almost any living filmmaker. The story didn't live up to the tone for me. I'm hoping LADY IN THE WATER is a return to form, where the story and character work are all as strong as his directing. I'm certainly intrigued by the footage, which I liked very much. It reminded me a bit of the pacing of UNBREAKABLE with a bit of the mystery of THE VILLAGE. Very curious about this one.

Alright, only one more round of ShoWest footage description to go and that's for George Miller's HAPPY FEET! Keep an eye out, squirts!


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  • March 24, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Any Tinfoil hats...

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    in this? BTW "Swing Away: is just about the stupidest line in the history of cinema.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Let the Shymalamadingdong begin :P

    by DerLanghaarige

  • March 24, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Holy Mackerel! My first "first"?

    by squidman

    Honored that it would be for an article on M. Night's latest.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Sounds pretty cool

    by Terry_1978

    I wasn't too certain about it before, but that scene makes it out to be pretty interesting to be honest. May be another of those unsuspected hits with the family demographic.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Sounds very cool

    by Zeke25:17

    Bryce is a goddess, and my two favorite Night flicks are Unbreakable and The Village. I love that Giamatti's in this as well. My guess is, Night's fans will love this; his detractors will hate it. But then again, some people actively hated E.T, so there ya go.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Terry, didn't mean to copy your headline!

    by Zeke25:17

    Totally accidental. What I should have wrote was, BRYCE, WILL YOU MARRY ME?

  • March 24, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    crap crap and crap.

    by inkymae

    aside from the sixth sense. all m. night can do is make crap.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Great, another tepid effort by the Hitchcock wannabe

    by Trazadone

    Haven't all his post-Sixth Sense films bombed? He's just a richer Uwe Boll.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by TheLastBystander

    Uh... no. Signs made 227 million... it was Mel Gibson's biggest starring hit (and overall hit at the time.) It did quite well. Even Unbreakable and The Village made money, they just may have been "disappointments" because of the hype.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:30 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see something different.

    by scudd

    M. Night needs to shake things up a little. Every one of his movies have been about the supernatural, or at least the perceived supernatural (monsters in The Village turned out to be people). Of course, as he has grown more popular, the backlash against him has grown, but I really think the guy has talent. He has just become stale and predictable. He needs to really tackle a project that no one would expect coming from him. This is why Spielburg can be seen as a serious filmmaker now and not just some popcorn flick director.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the info, TheLastBystander

    by Trazadone

    I didn't realize that Signs made that much. I think you're right about the "hype" issue. I just accept that I'll be disappointed if I drop $ for one of his films.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    i agree Scudd

    by lopan

    I would like to see him direct a screenplay that he didn't write. Something tonally different than the last four, without fantasy elements. I think that would really prove his mettle as a filmmaker, whether he can tackle a differnt kind of story and still be successful. Even though I disliked Village and Signs, I think he's got talent, I just want to see him move on from the supernatural twist ending stuff.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST

    having said that

    by lopan

    it's gonna be tough for me to sit through this without yelling NARF

  • March 24, 2006, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by Jonesey1111

    You know the side effects of your user ID? Prolonged, pinful erections...ouch!

  • March 24, 2006, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Bitch In The Water

    by Darth Pestilence

    heh heh. that's a funny joke.

  • March 24, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Night sure is the master...

    by tripp5

    of sucking my balls

  • March 24, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST

    M. Night: Man or Moron?

    by Duke of Hurl

    M. Night is the biggest sham in Hollywood right now. Not only is he a hack, but his psuedo-suspenseful stories are insulting to the intelligence of the viewer. I haven't liked one of his wretched flicks. Star power won't make shit float - it still sinks to the bottom. Years from now, people will look back on these films and wonder what they were thinking. Just watch his "first movie" on the SIGNS DVD... it's a camcorder tapin a remote control car with a mask on it. Masturbatory. "The man creates suspense and mystery better than almost any living filmmaker."??? Sorry Quint. I'll have to strongly disagree, unless Cronenberg, Lynch, and Polanski died without me knowing it.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by shalashaska


  • March 24, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Do we honestly need an E.T. "for the next generation?"

    by Ribbons

    I mean, don't get me wrong, I think that Shyamalan's a pretty good filmmaker for the most part. I just don't understand how that statement makes sense. It's not like every movement in Hollywood has to be cyclical. So what if our kids don't grow up with their own 'E.T.'? Is that really so bad? It's like all those magazines that are asking when we're going to get "the next Julia Roberts." You mean when are we going to get another overpaid superstar who can sell us crap just because we feel like we have some weird personal attachment to her? Who the hell cares? Just make good movies.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Night or not ...

    by Flickerhead

    ... this movie's got my money because I'll watch Paul Giamatti in anything. If IMDB has it right, he's going to be in six movies this year, and my ass'll be in the theatre for every one of 'em. (On a side note, I don't understand the division that Shyamalan inspires. He's made some good flicks and some mediocre ones. Only time will tell if his films have the timeless quality of Hitchcock, to whom he is constantly compared. Anyone who says he's a hack, however, evidently doesn't know what the word means.)

  • March 24, 2006, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Shyamalannaslammajamma's giving Paul Giamatti work!

    by AnimeJune

    I agree with Flickerhead, and I'll be seeing it because i happen to LOVE fairytales and Paul Giamatti. True, I thought "Signs" and "The Village" ridiculous, but "6th Sense" and "Unbreakable" were excellent.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:35 p.m. CST


    by jaxnnux


  • March 24, 2006, 1:36 p.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    "'Swing Away' is just about the stupidest line in the history of cinema" is just about the stupidest line in the history of TalkBack.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Friggin M Night...

    by beefywhore

    I don't know if I'd call him Hollywoods worst good director, or best bad director. I think he's just a decent writer who probably shouldn't be allowed to operate a camera. So far everything I've ever seen of his is about 40 minutes too long...but I'm a big geek and will keep going to see his stuff, so there's the rub...sigh

  • March 24, 2006, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by Duke of Hurl

    I was speaking to the point that those three are still alive and actually are in the practice of suspenseful mysteries. I don't dismiss M. Night - I gave him 4 solid chances. When he delivers something worth a damn I'll quit bitching. You can tell he likes his ego stroked (as in that lame AMEX commercial). So keep it up, knowthyself, and we'll get decades of mundane popcorn pictures.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:46 p.m. CST

    The summary sounds like crap

    by Stollentroll

    C'mon, it's true.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    and the twist is:

    by dr.bulber


  • March 24, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Duke of Hurl

    by Stollentroll

    Sorry, didn't read your post until now. You're SO right about this guy. No need for any more postings on that.

  • March 24, 2006, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I loved signs...

    by rotten666

    don't get why some have a real problem with that flick..... to each their own, I suppose.

  • March 24, 2006, 2 p.m. CST

    Anyone seen M. Night's AmEx ad?

    by zencat

    He's in a restaurant noticing lots of ghostly / eerie / Lynchian things happening at the tables around him. The voice over is like, "I see the world my own way ..." While I don't think Shyamalan's a talentless filmmaker, I do think examples like this ad (which he wrote and directed) prove that, at heart, he's WAY too infatuated with his self-image and WAY too concerned with selling that image of himself to an audience. More evidence? Get a load of his quote: "I really did approach this commercial as a two-minute movie. I wanted this project to be authentic because the opportunity to tell a story in this format will reach a lot of people, and in many ways this could be the warm up for 'Lady in the Water' which comes out in summer." This is what the auteur theory has come to -- every movie is a product, prepackaged with the author's signature as a trademark.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Just out of curiosity ...

    by Flickerhead

    ... what is the point of bothering to post something like, "The summary sounds like crap. C'mon, it's true." Since I started frequenting these boards, I've been perplexed by these sorts of vapid posts. Another good example is when you see someone take the time post "I got nothing." (Um. Okay. Thanks for that.) It reminds me of the old adage: a wise man speaks because he something to say; a fool speaks because he has to say something.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Oops -- Duke of Hurl

    by zencat

    I guess someone else DID see the commercial. Sorry I missed your earlier mention of it.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I may get the big flame on this....

    by vinceklortho

    but Signs is a masterpiece of suspense. Sixth Sense and Unbreakable are really fucking good too. Yeah, he's a cocky motherfucker who deserved the backlash he got with the Village, but he is still one hell of a talented filmmaker. His movies are just simply...movies. Didn't know on a supposed movie lover site, he would be seen as a "hack". Far from it.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Rotten666, the problem with "Signs" ...

    by Flickerhead

    ... is that the climax felt very much like a cop-out, as if Shyamalan had written himself into a corner and just didn't know how to resolve things. It didn't make sense for the aliens to do what they did, and solution for the humans was just too easy. The frustrating thing is that the film was excellent up to that point. Can you imagine how freakin' cool that movie could've been if Night would've had the stones to leave it open ended? I mean, just show the family squaring off with the alien, or fleeing into the cornfield, or whatever, and then fade to black. Maybe some garbled shouting fading into the distance. The audience would've walked out in a daze because, at this point, everyone thinks they know what to expect from Night. I think something along those lines could've really put him in the upper echelon.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:10 p.m. CST

    This sounds awful

    by Trazadone

    Blarg! This sounds awful! Narf? What the fuck? What a load of hooey. There were elements of The Village I found interesting, but this turkey sounds more like Signs. Certain story elements of that movie are arranged like child's blocks, with no thought for what makes sense. Ron Howard's daughter needs to find another director to use her.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:10 p.m. CST

    vinceklortho, your post made me think.

    by zencat

    "Didn't know on a supposed movie lover site, he would be seen as a 'hack.'" -- Maybe this is because here at AICN, Harry & co. (along with us TalkBackers) claim the exclusive right to confer genius status on a filmmaker? And M. Night dares to confer it on himself?

  • March 24, 2006, 2:14 p.m. CST

    BTW, I didn't hate Signs

    by zencat

    But I thought it was a little ... xenophobic and racist, what with walloping the black-skinned alien (whose forehead was tattooed Maori-style) with a gen-yoo-wine good ol' American Louisville Slugger? That'll teach them space n*****s to come sniffing around our cornfields and busting into our houses!

  • March 24, 2006, 2:15 p.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Yeah, I don't get this. His directing style owes some to Hitchcock... His penchant for lulling us with subtlety only to hit us in the head with a scare, surprise or twist... Well, that and he puts himself in his movies. But as a writer, I thought we'd all agreed that he owes more to Rod Serling. He may be Hitchcock behind the camera, but he's Serling behind the typewriter. And as far as I'm concerned, that is a winning combination. I've liked every movie he's done quite a bit... some of them more than others... but he's always got my $8.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Flickerhead (re: Signs)

    by chrth

    I think you missed the point of the movie; it's not about aliens. Yes, there are aliens in the film, but it's a movie about faith and family. He didn't write himself into a corner; a bunch of fanboys expecting Independence Day 2 created the corner.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:19 p.m. CST

    The Village could've been told in 22 mintutes

    by Trazadone

    What a waste of time. Talk about stretching a tired idea for 90 minutes.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:19 p.m. CST

    "Just a kid..."

    by 3 Bag Enema

    ...he said, gently unzipping his fly.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:20 p.m. CST

    i understand the Serling comparisons

    by HypeEndsHere

    but Serling wrote 3 Twilight Zones a DAY. and was consistently good. M. Night's quality varies GREATLY between only 5 films.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST


    by Stollentroll

    The point of my posting was this: I don't really want to sound interested in this flick (that's why I won't engage in a longer discussion), but just in case M. Night visists AICN he should be able to tell from the headlines that a lot of people just don't appreciate his fantasy trash.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I'd prefer Lady on a Plane

    by BurtGummer

    "Enough is enough, I've had it with this lady!"

  • March 24, 2006, 2:27 p.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Yeah, Serling did churn them out. Like pulps with a brain, but beyond the thinly veiled parables and allegories, pretty transparent. Not that that makes TTZ any less entertaining or Serling any less talented. As to Night... I guess it is just subjective. I think The Village is really his only movie that doesn't stand up to close scrutiny or at least a huge entertainment factor. And the twist (if you want to consider it that) was telegraphed a million miles away... BUT, I thought BDH was great in it and she kept me caring about the story the whole time. It was shot beautifully and I loved the production design and the costume design on the 'monsters', so I'm still able to come away with it with an appreciation for it... even if it doesn't rival my appreciation of Unbreakable.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST


    by Flickerhead

    I didn't actually address what the movie was about. Of course it was about faith (not so much about "family," that was more context than theme), but the final minutes of the film essentially gave us a mini-"Independence Day," and that's part of why it didn't work. As one colleague of mine put it, "It was disappointing to see two hours of spiritual angst resolved with baseball bat and a glass of water." (That's one more reason I like the idea of leaving it open-ended ... it would have been cool to let the audience walk out asking themselves the same questions that the characters were asking throughout. But, hey, that's just my little fantasy. I thought "Signs" was 95% great and 5% disappointing.)

  • March 24, 2006, 2:33 p.m. CST

    The Villiage

    by Duke of Hurl

    I had the ending pegged after the first 10 minutes, when they showed that first guard post on the edge of the woods. C'mon - a twist ending has to have a twist. And ripping off Shirley Jackson won't get you accolades in my book. Somehow these movies attract talent, which is how M. Night has managed to stay afloat this long. Maybe the scripts are good reads... I don't know. But one thing is for sure: M. Night's cameos suck phat wolfman nards.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:38 p.m. CST

    And furthermore...

    by Duke of Hurl

    M. Night's movies are shot well, edited well, and for the most part acted well. They just need to hire a different writer and director next time, that's all.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:39 p.m. CST


    by Flickerhead

    Fair enough, but his remarkable box office success must reassure him that a lot more people *do* appreciate his brand of filmmaking, no? (And, hey, aren't the Talkback forums for talkbackers? If you have such a strong desire to let a director know that you disapprove of his work, why not just write him a letter?)

  • March 24, 2006, 2:40 p.m. CST

    while Twilight Zone was admittedly simplistic sci-fi

    by HypeEndsHere

    Rod Serling was the first to admit it. he purposely dumbed down the show to get it on the air. his more serious work is well worth the search. like Requiem for a Heavyweight, A Carol for Another Christmas, and his Playhouse 90 work. all hard to come by, but worth it.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:51 p.m. CST


    by Duke of Hurl

    His "remarkable" (i.e. good yet unremarkable) box office success is due to marketing efforts, not good filmmaking. I bet Slither does as well on its opening weekend. "Write him a letter..."? I've got 2 letters for M. Night: F.U.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST

    To think Newsweek called him "the new Spielberg."

    by heywood jablomie

    A lousy, lousy filmmaker. SIXTH SENSE = Friedkin in THE EXORCIST and Kubrick in THE SHINING minus the bite, meaning a long, godawful, lugubrious death march. The stuff after is just retarded.

  • March 24, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST


    by Frijole

    Yeah, don't take that as a knock on Serling at all. And don't take my comparisons between him and Night as a knock either (if you dislike Night's work). I was just saying... Hey everyone. What ever happened to that dildo that kept challenging Kevin Smith to a 'screen-off' with his movie about a guy sitting on a cliff looking all serious?

  • March 24, 2006, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Sixth Sense was saved in Post

    by Duke of Hurl

    The final cut is not the way it was written or shot. The editor saved what was otherwise a failure. And dig this tidbit: "According to M. Night Shyamalan, the movie was inspired by an episode of "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" (1992) called "The Tale of the Dream Girl" in which both male leading characters are ignored by somebody and don't realize that they are dead until the final moment. In the tale of the dream girl, the boy notices that his sister who can see him shows him the newspaper of him and his girlfriend dead." (IMDB) Nothing like Nickelodeon to save the face of horror cinema.

  • March 24, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    The Village Script Review Posted Here RUINED it for me

    by aceattorney

    And yeah, I blame myself for reading it...

  • March 24, 2006, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Dat M Night feller be slower den Molasses.

    by cookylamoo

    Shooo Nuff!

  • March 24, 2006, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Duke of Hurl

    by Flickerhead

    I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. Shyamalan's films have grossed $1.6 billion worldwide, against production *and* marketing costs of $377 million. That's $1.2 BILLION (with a "b") in clear profit. He's never made a film that didn't make at two-and-a-half times its production and marketing budget. All of this was accomplished with four films that were neither sequels to or adaptations of existing properties. If that's unremarkable box office success, I'd like to know what remarkable is.

  • March 24, 2006, 3:33 p.m. CST


    by beefywhore

    The Day After Tomorrow made a pantload of money...but when I saw it I snuck into the thater and STILL felt ripped off...making money does not equal a good film...just ask Paul Anderson.

  • March 24, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Sorry, beefywhore ...

    by Flickerhead

    ... did you get the impression that I equated big box office with quality films? That's odd, since I neither said nor implied it. I said that Stollentroll might feel better posting insults "in case M. Night visits AICN," Shyamalan can be reassured by his box-office success that there are plenty of people who dig his stuff.

  • March 24, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST

    You can always count on Shamalayn hating here.

    by Lovecraftfan

    I think hes a great director. For people who say hes one of our worst directors I have to wonder if they've really watched how he ahs built suspense.

  • March 24, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST

    The ultimate talkback post part one

    by zacdilone

    M. Night is a hack. Lucas raped my childhood. Harry is a sell-out. Tarantino is a god. LOTR kicked SW's ass. Bush is an idiot. And I didn't really want to go to BNAT anyway.

  • March 24, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST

    "The creature was CGI"

    by Shaner Jedi

    Nah. I think ILM captured a real tiger, glued some saber teeth on him, and released him on the set.

  • March 24, 2006, 4:39 p.m. CST

    M. Night Shaboobadoo - overrated hypester

    by Hugh Jass

    Sixth Sense was OK but the kid got annoying with subsequent viewings. Everything else Shaboobadoo has done has been utter shit. The Mel Gibson movie with the aliens? Pure shit. The Bruce Willis comic book flick? Shit that someone ate then puked onto the floor. Shaboobadoo just makes the same movie over and over again - just a bad Twilight Zone episode. The guy is a fucking hack.

  • March 24, 2006, 5:03 p.m. CST


    by beefywhore

    Sorry man I just saw box office stats and made a quick assumption...I should probably read back in the talkbacks before I reply to one...

  • March 24, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Flickerhead vs. Duke of Hurl

    by Duke of Hurl

    I'm glad you're afraid you don't know what I'm talking about, because that's the only scare you'll get from this M. Night hype. But I concede - you're right - if the appreciation is there, box office success will follow. It's just a shame that people appreciate the stuff.

  • March 24, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST

    i know the ending -- when he hits his head... *spoiler*

    by evansls

    he imagines it all, because he neve wakes up from being unconscious. that's the twist at the end. just like all M. Night movies, but this twist is he dreams it all while being unconscious. oh well! :(

  • March 24, 2006, 5:23 p.m. CST

    "i know the ending" by evansls

    by Duke of Hurl

    He hasn't even seen the flick and he's got it nailed. I rest my case. San Dimas Highschool football rules!

  • March 24, 2006, 5:23 p.m. CST

    "i know the ending" by evansls

    by Duke of Hurl

    He hasn't even seen the flick and he's got it nailed. I rest my case. San Dimas Highschool football rules!

  • March 24, 2006, 5:30 p.m. CST

    "I rest my case."

    by Ribbons

    Wow, and what a compelling case that is. "He transposed the twist ending of 'The Sixth Sense' onto 'Lady in the Water.' That's remotely plausible. Therefore this movie will suck. I rest my case." Bravo, Duke of Hurl. Bravo.

  • March 24, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Not Quite Rested

    by Duke of Hurl

    Is that sarcasm, Ribbons? If so, try to make it a little more scathing next time. If not, not only do I thank you - the world of M. Night haters thanks you as well.

  • March 24, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Defense of Night

    by Dataset

    You gotta admit, even when he falls flat on his cinematic ass, it's still exponentially better than 95% of what's out there. Besides, if the only thing we saw were great films, there would be too few of them to justify this website. Not long ago, in trying to talk my wife out of her desire to moove into a house from our condo (glorified apartment), I reorganized my DVD's into "What I want on a shelf" and what I can store in binders. I got these great, mid-priced leather binders that hold the covers and discs. I bought a lot of them. Out of my collection I found 180 titles I counted among the greatest, most rewatchable films I have. I re-organized the other 1400ish by genre and they now take a fraction of the space. My wife is happy. We sighed another year lease, the housing market just fell, and everything's good.

  • March 24, 2006, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Gee, thanks, I guess...

    by Ribbons

    ...somehow I expected a response along those lines. Someone makes a bad point, I say "what a good point" sarcastically, then they smugly reply with a "yeah I know, it was a good point, wasn't it?" so that they don't actually have to justify their ridiculous post. So let's see: "this movie will suck because a twist ending that someone else suggested, based on the scant information we have, is not totally impossible" *doesn't* sound biased enough for you? Well then you win the argument, I guess. Good luck using it to convince anyone besides yourself that M. Night sucks, though.

  • March 24, 2006, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Ribbons... dude...

    by Duke of Hurl

    Read the other posts. There are plenty of people who agree with me. And I expressed earlier that the movie will suck because M. Night sucks, not because of the twist ending. But it helps his case. I just wanted to have fun with it, since "evansls" shared my point of view. Read my 2:55 PM post and get back to me. Maybe he's not as bad as I'm trash talkin him for - but he's positively the most overrated filmmaker in Hollywood.

  • March 24, 2006, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I realize other people don't like Night..

    by Ribbons

    ...I also realize that other people have agreed with, or approved of, what have you, some of your posts. But that particular point makes no sense to me. I'm sure you were having fun, and maybe the 'twist ending' post made you giggle because you don't like the dude, but to say "I rest my case" as if that's supposed to mean anything to those of us who don't automatically hate the man's guts is pointless. As for the post with the IMDb quote you referred me to: it has been established that IMDb is not completely reputable 100% of the time, right? And even if it were true, that's another post I don't agree with either -- which I wasn't going to talk about, so don't accuse me of nitpicking, until you told me to take a look at it. Good movies can be inspired by bad stories just as bad movies can be inspired by good stories. They don't even necessarily have to mean the same thing. It all depends on how it's told. The editing thing is a legitimate complaint, but I'll have to take you at your word seeing as I've neither read the script nor seen the first cut of the movie and I don't know specifically what it is about the editing that you're referring to.

  • March 24, 2006, 7:30 p.m. CST

    IMDb is reputable

    by Duke of Hurl

    But you're okay in my book, Ribs.

  • March 24, 2006, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Shyamalan is good when he is not force-feeding us...

    by Bones

    ..."Signs" was abysmal storytelling. The most illogical storytelling I have seen in, well, was just and insipid movie. Other than that, I have liked his other films. The village, if you stripped it of it's needless twist, had great characters and situations. I am cautiously hopefully of this movie--and will probably see it...even if it is a remake of "Splash"...

  • March 24, 2006, 11:15 p.m. CST


    by hiperaktiv

    After the shit that was "Signs" and "The Village" im passing on this crap. Sixth Sense and Unbreakable were good movies but M night has just lost the plot, literally.

  • March 24, 2006, 11:38 p.m. CST

    I Saw This Footage Too

    by JuicyBusey

    I was at ShoWest as well and got to see the whole Warner Bros. Line-up. The Lady In The Water Footage was definitely the worst of the lot. <br><br> The only M. Night movie I&#39;ve liked was the Sixth Sense. In my opinion, all his other movies were really bad... though the Mel Gibson one was bearable. <br><br> Anyway, this was 10 minutes of sheer boredom. Giamati is sleepwalking through this film, the lady in the water (also the blind chick in the Village) is just plain wierd (and Giamati doesn&#39;t even seem to question his wierdness), and the strange wolf-cat that shows up at the end was just lame. <br><br> This will be M. Night&#39;s worst movie yet, mark my words.

  • March 24, 2006, 11:51 p.m. CST

    All Hail the Pho King!

    by Pho King

    You fuck-ass motherfuckers will bow before M. Night Shyamalan! Every knee will bow, and every tongue confess that Shyamalan is lord! You fucking dumbshits don&#39;t grok what makes a good fucking director. "Hack." What a bunch of fucking morons. What do you think huge box-office means, dumbasses? It means a shitload of fuckers dig the shit, and you know what? You don&#39;t see fucking Ratner or W.S. Anderson or any other goddamn fuckers doing AmEx commercials, and do you know why? Because the lord has made a name for himself, in the same way that (yes) Spielberg, Hitchcock and Lucas have done. How many directors get their name above the title? Call it marketing, call it what you will, but you fuckheaded shitfucks (that&#39;s you, Duke, that&#39;s you, Hugh Jass) haven&#39;t got a fucking clue as to what makes a good fucking director! You don&#39;t know how hard this shit is, and you&#39;re way out of your league! I work harder than 99% of the shits out there and he&#39;s earned his fucking notoriety, so just fuck off, you ignorant jackasses. It tales a hell of a lot to make a movie, and if you ever reach this level, you might fucking realize that. Dumb shits. Shyamalan will eventually be recognized with the greatest directors of all time. So suck it.

  • March 24, 2006, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Fuck you

    by Pho King


  • ..which made it interesting. The Village was OK and his other films good. What&#39;s with all the hating? Can you all do better? Then do it..

  • March 25, 2006, 3:15 a.m. CST

    It&#39;s clear now that

    by Nachokoolaid

    Duke of Hurl = some kids that got his lunch money stolen and ass kicked daily by M. Night long ago. Let the hate go, man. Let it go. The truth is that Night is more talented than 95% of the directors working today. Sure there are a few that are better, but they are the elite and are considered the cream of the crop.

  • March 25, 2006, 4:31 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m looking forward to this

    by Babyshamble

    I loved The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. The direction in Unbreakable is amazing, the first sequence on the train is done almost all in one shot filmed from the seats infront of Bruce Willis. Seriously watch it again it must have taken forever to plan and to get the timing right. I also liked The Village, I can see why people didn&#39;t as it was marketed as a Horror, but I saw it knowing pretty much what to expect and I really liked it. Nothing spectacular but good. I&#39;ll be seeing this because I love Giamatti and I think the concept is intriguing. My only problem with M Night is he seems really pretentious. I hope this film impresses people, if not at least it&#39;ll be better than the fast and the furious 3 or some of the other shit that&#39;s heading our way this year

  • March 25, 2006, 9:12 a.m. CST

    i liked the Village. but then, i saw a bootleg

    by HypeEndsHere

    the film was grainy and evoked a Hammer film feeling. which sort of makes sense as it was M. Night&#39;s crack at The Wicker Man for all intents and pursoses.

  • March 25, 2006, 9:42 a.m. CST

    i guess i must be a hater too then

    by occula

    i think hurl&#39;s got it right with the dingdong. he is a shining example of what can happen in the studio system when a talented young filmmaker makes one interesting film that makes a bunch of old white guys a shitload of money. he then gets a multi-picture deal and a huge amount of creative control to sing the same goddamned song he sang in the first film over and over and nobody makes a peep because they keep waiting for the successive films to make more enormous cash for the studio. sooner or later his talent becomes irrelevant because he&#39;s operating in a bubble where nobody tells him what to do, because they&#39;re still hoping for the money. he&#39;s gotten to surround himself with very skilled craftsmen and women who do their jobs well, again because of the hopes for the money. i think if he had any self-realization other than ego he&#39;d think to step back from the system and shoot a indie - like talented actors and filmmakers do all the time - with someone else&#39;s well-written script, no budget, no fawning studio, and no title card where his name is bigger than the title of the film.

  • March 25, 2006, 9:46 a.m. CST

    one more tirade

    by occula

    oh, and it gets me really bent to hear him described as &#39;hitchcockian.&#39; shamalamadingdong is COMMERCIAL. there&#39;s nothing wrong with it, but he shouldn&#39;t bask in the presumption of something he&#39;s not. michael bay doesn&#39;t pretend to be like kubrick just because he made a science fiction film. dingdong is not like hitchcock just because his storylines have a twist. the comparisons are odious. ps, i meant to write &#39;an indie.&#39; sorry.

  • March 25, 2006, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Duke, that "Are you afraid of the dark" thing is great:

    by Novaman5000

    It&#39;s the first thing I thought of when I saw sixth sense: "Oh, this is alot like that are you afraid of the dark episode..." I loved that show when I was little.

  • March 25, 2006, 12:17 p.m. CST

    About Serling and TZ,

    by Novaman5000

    He is the man, no doubt, but it is much easier to create a story that has to sustain itself for 22 minutes than one that has to sustain itself for 2 hrs.

  • March 25, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    BUT! Serling wrote 28 episodes of TZ himself

    by HypeEndsHere

    not counting his other works. i know you&#39;re not bagging on Serling, but the man was smart AND prolific. not just a twist at the end sorty guy. don&#39;t forget &#39;Seven Days in May&#39; AND &#39;The Planet of the Apes&#39;! M.Night doesn&#39;t have a tough schedule. He can write when he wants and that should lead to a better hit/miss ratio.

  • March 25, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Pho King & M. Night Shitmypants

    by brokebackcowboy

    So M. Night Shitmypants is great cuz he does Amex commercials? Go suck his cock if you like him so much, but consider me a more discriminating filmgoer.

  • March 25, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST

    HypeEndsHere - About that hit/miss ratio

    by Flickerhead

    You gotta wonder if he&#39;s really all that interested in his hit/miss ratio right now. I mean, if I were in his position, I&#39;d just be writing the sorts of films that I like, and I&#39;ll bet that&#39;s what he&#39;s doing. Also, though a vocal minority bags on his work, there are those of us who&#39;d argue that his hit/miss ratio is quite good.

  • March 25, 2006, 3:42 p.m. CST

    M. Night Shamsaplot

    by brokebackcowboy

  • March 25, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Shamalamadindong is very good

    by 900LBGorilla

    Really, I have never seen anyone able to make such seemingly mundane scenes so interesting. I have yet to dislike one of his movies- even Signs was great from the standpoint of being about faith ... as an Alien movie it was weak... but I didn&#39;t expect it to have much action given the storyteller. That said Lady in the water has me at a zero on the interest-meter thusfar...

  • March 25, 2006, 5:49 p.m. CST


    by LilOgre

    Ok, I know I&#39;m going to get flamed on this one. But I just thought UNBREAKABLE was interesting but did not sustain itself for the length of the film. Night used an interesting premise as an excuse to tell an "Average Joe becomes a superehero" tale. And the "real" superhero portion was just , I don&#39;t know, lame and boring. And I normally love comic book films!

  • March 25, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Same here.

    by Shermdawg

  • March 25, 2006, 8:31 p.m. CST

    MNS Is Not the Most Overrated Director in Hollywood

    by Anton_Sirius

    That would be Bryce&#39;s daddy. As for Unbreakable, I realize all geeks feel compelled to like it because of its subject matter, but it simply doesn&#39;t work -- in large part because it&#39;s only the first act of the story, and has no real conclusion. Well, that and the fact that MNS apparently doesn&#39;t think rape is a crime worth his hero&#39;s time to stop...

  • March 25, 2006, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I just watched Signs again...

    by Shermdawg

    It&#39;s weird, I got it on dvd, but I decide to watch it on abc. The film is great, but I would have liked to know if the sherrif survived or not. DYR!!!

  • March 26, 2006, 2:14 a.m. CST

    M. Night&#39;s kids

    by thebearovingian

    "Daddy, I&#39;m so sick of your BS stories with the twists/ revelations at the end. They&#39;re so damn predictable. I figured out the ending before we even ate dinner. Last week. Of course, the wolf was masquerading as Little Red Riding Hood&#39;s grandma! Duh stupid! And you know how you make me go to bed at 8:30 everynight? Then why the hell do you sit in here blabbering on for a half hour instead of letting me fall asleep in peace? Shut up and get the fack outta my room! HACK!"

  • March 26, 2006, 2:38 a.m. CST

    while I&#39;m at it

    by thebearovingian

    the whole outcry about the water. M. Night knew what he was doin. The aliens must have checked the Weather Channel b/c they didn&#39;t come while it was raining! Maybe they didn&#39;t know about the water, if they did it&#39;s a good thing they set down on dry land (in a corn field at Mel&#39;s and various other locations). What if they would&#39;ve eaten everybody? Since we&#39;re 70% water, would they have died from eating people? Had they never seen The Wizard of Oz? Whenever I&#39;m faced with some evil threat, I immediately find some water and throw down. Hell, it worked for Dorothy. And what if aliens just aren&#39;t that F&#39;in smart?! "But They&#39;ve got spaceships!" So what. Maybe they jacked it from some other smart alien race. I could learn to fly a space shuttle just don&#39;t ask me to build one from scratch. Or a car for that matter. And I do mean from scratch (as in mine ores and metals from the ground, metal work/ fabricate the parts, lines and hoses from rubber trees, refine crude oil from the Arctic Wildlife Preserve for fuel or cook up some E85 from my batch of moonshine (and Mel&#39;s cornfields), probably wouldn&#39;t worry with most of the exhaust system etc etc etc). SIGNS restored my faith!!! Listen to the Dawn of Fate track from the soundtrack. Inspiring and beautiful. I love SIGNS!!!!

  • March 26, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    So he&#39;s remaking Splash?

    by Silver Shamrock

    And Night should not be favorably compared to Serling or Hitchcock.