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I am – Hercules!!

HBO declined our request for screeners of tonight’s “Sopranos” and “Big Love” season openers, citing concerns about the revelation of plot twists. The pitiless irony, of course, is that we receive an endless stream of screeners up here on Mt. Olympus, and have a firm policy about abiding any spoiler prohibitions that come with those screeners.

The good news for Coaxial spoiler-whores? No screener means HBO also failed to provide any guidance with regard to spoilers! Spoiler-cloak on!

* Gino Pontecorvo, having inherited $2 million from his aunt, is forbidden from leaving Tony’s crew and moving to Florida. It turns out Gino has been talking to the Feds. Gino is found hung before 6.1’s conclusion.

* Hesh and his son-in-law are jumped by one of Phil Leotardo’s thugs, which ultimately leads Tony to try to reach out to the imprisoned Johnny Sack through Sack’s optometrist brother-in-law.

* Finally, as Tony makes dinner for the weak-minded Uncle Junior, Junior mistakes Tony for an intruder and shoots him in the gut. Tony has to struggle desperately to get to a phone before he passes out and dies. The good news is Tony survives. The bad news is Tony is a little less active in 6.2.

More good news! The absence of a screener means we can bring you “Sloane13’s” spoiler-drenched review of both 6.1 and 6.2! Again with the spoiler-cloak!!

I attended the premiere of the first two episodes of the new season of the Sopranos at The Museum of Modern Art on Tuesday night. Thought you might like a review. It’s filled with spoilers.

Ok, things start off pretty normal … the opening montage lets us know that about two years have passed since last we saw everybody. Meadow’s doing a sexy dance in her underwear for her nerd dentist boyfriend. AJ is spending more time in his college class taking pictures of himself with his cellphone than paying attention to the professor. Tony and Carmella have been frequenting a $40 a piece sushi place lately and pretty much just living large and acting like a couple of teenagers. Johnny Sack is in jail but he’s asked Phil Leotardo to make nice with Tony and his crew for now despite the death of Phil’s brother last season. Bobby Bachalla and Janice now have a 15 month old daughter and Uncle Junior is getting crazier by the minute. Tony makes a brief visit to Dr. Melphi, buys Carmella a brand new SUV and life is good...

MASSIVE SPOILERS AHEAD. So Tony’s got a new soldier working for him named Gino. He’s got a bitch wife and a druggie son and he wants to move to Florida and get away from this life cause he inherited 2 million from his aunt. He’s also talking with the same feds that Adrienna was involved with and is looking for a way out. Only Tony ain’t having it despite Gino giving him a nice fat envelope full of inheritance money. “You swore an oath” and all that. Tony doesn’t even have the respect to tell the guy “no” himself. He has Silvio do it for him. “That Florida thing… Tony told me to tell you it ain’t gonna happen”. So this Gino guy hangs himself in his garage. I am assuming this storyline will go somewhere eventually. I mean, why bother introducing this guy only to get rid of him 40 minutes later… We’ll see…

Meanwhile, Uncle Junior’s “nurse” can’t be relied on and Bobby Bachalla is too busy hiding in his garage with his train sets to look in on Uncle Junior. Tony flips out and goes over to check on him himself. Uncle Junior’s sitting in the dark talking to the television set when Tony gets there. He sends Uncle June upstairs and tells him to wash up for dinner. Now you ready for this? While Tony’s cooking pasta Uncle Junior comes downstairs, thinks Tony is a burglar, shoots Tony in the stomach and runs up stairs to hide in his closet. Tony then spends the next 5 grueling minutes dragging his bloody body across the floor, trying to get to the phone to dial 911 before going unconscious. Yeah. It was pretty intense and completely out of the blue.

The second episode started immediately after the first. It goes back and forth between Tony in a coma (basically an extended dream sequence that has him living an alternate life as a business man) and everybody visiting Carmella in the hospital as she sits around the clock watching Tony. Meadow is pissed cause her nerd boyfriend won’t leave dental school to visit her family in the hospital. AJ is very uncomfortable seeing his father in this state (Tony has a massive, graphic hole in belly) and keeps avoiding the hospital. When he does finally show up he takes the opportunity to tell his mother he just failed out of college. Meadow and AJ share a nice moment talking about “the life” they’ve been born into and AJ sticks his head out the window and tells the gaggle of press people outside to “fuck off”. At the funeral for Gino, the guy who hung himself in the premiere, Christopher, Paulie Wallnuts, Silvio and the rest of gang ask why Bobby Bachalla wasn’t looking in on Junior when Tony got shot. He claims “taking care of personal business” i.e. hiding from his new wife and child in the garage with his trains. For the most part that’s it. Tony is still in the coma at the end of the second ep, hooked up to tubes and machines and everyone else is kind of on standby waiting.

All in all, it was great to have “the gang” back and I’m curious to see where they’re headed with this. The certainly started things off with a bang. If you use this, please just call me Slone13. Thanks.

To anticipate the inevitable talkback query, HBO plans to unfurl the first 12 episodes of the sixth season in the coming weeks. The final 8 episodes of the season are currently slated to start in January 2007.

9 p.m. Sunday. HBO.









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  • March 12, 2006, 3:22 a.m. CST

    i dont want to see tony dead at the end

    by flamingrunt

    it would be better if carmella and the kids die. And at the end hes all alone

  • March 12, 2006, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Molitsanti

    by YourHero

    really interested with what they do with him this season, the episode last season where he found out that adrianna was talking to the feds was amazing, i had my jaw hanging open for a solid 5-10 min watching his reaction.

  • March 12, 2006, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Could we try being a little less perfect this season?

    by The Wrong Guy

    Over the past five seasons I've gotten so damn tired of so much goddamn flawless storytelling. Even SFU was courteous enough to lower the bar in it's latter seasons . Not The Sopranos, though; not yet, anyway. I mean, it's completely insane how good this show is. BRING IT ON!

  • March 12, 2006, 4:29 a.m. CST

    sour grapes!!

    by TheComedian77

    I've lost all respect for you "Herc". Do you know how childish that is?!? They wouln't send you "gods" a screener, so you just post ALL the spoilers that you can, citing the above reasons. There's a word fro that ; petty. Don't try to get around it man, it's just sour grapes. You spelled it out unconsiously "EVERYONE ELSE SENDS US SCREENERS, HOW DARE THEY NOT SEND US A SCREENER?!?" Then you use a feeble excuse to list a bunch of spoilers (I didn't read 'em myself. I wanna go in cold). But it's the reason you did it that stinks. Sour grapes. If you wanted to prove that AICN was a place of "journalistic integrity" and that even HBO should send you screeners....well, you just blew it. Wait ; this is AICN. Where's my insults? Oh yeah ; You dumb Finook.

  • March 12, 2006, 4:53 a.m. CST

    It's been such a long time!

    by nemesisdarkside

    I've been looking forward to this for SO long I can't wait! WHY does Sopranos and most HBO shows take so long to come out with new seasons? And please don't say "writing quality scripts"!! All these 365+ day gaps between seasons is insane. This gap takes top place though. The funny thing is this season will still have its audience tuning back in after all this time. I doubt the networks could get away with that, baring Fox TV and Family Guy but thats an entirely different story. Anyway to quote Wrong Guy "Bring It On!" "..I woke up this morning..."

  • March 12, 2006, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Thanks

    by nemesisdarkside

    Thank you current TBers for not mentioning what was in the invisotext in your posts. I too like to go in cold!

  • March 12, 2006, 5:28 a.m. CST

    "Inevitable talkback query"

    by supertoyslast

    Thanks Herc - you read my mind. The final eight episodes had better be in January. A longer wait would be interminable. I hope that they really are the final episodes this time. I'm tired of each season being "definitely the last - we really mean it this time". And HBO don't want spoilers to be revealed but they hold a premiere? It's not like this show needs the extra publicity. It would be nice if, just once, everyone got to see it at the same time - when it debuts on TV. No premieres. No previews. Just a real treat for everyone.

  • March 12, 2006, 6:11 a.m. CST

    Wait, 9pm... TONIGHT?!

    by Fawst

    FUCK, you mean I have to go watch all of last season on On Demand before that?! (I missed the whole damn thing)

  • March 12, 2006, 7:14 a.m. CST

    It's too bad, really that the Sopranos' return...

    by paulh

    Had to come on the same weekend as Battlestar Galactica's finale. Dead serious. Let's see Mr. Chase & company top what we saw on Friday night.

  • March 12, 2006, 8:41 a.m. CST

    I guess this will be okay while I wait for THE WIRE

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    HBO is moving too damn slow....bring us the good stuff dammit! Bring back Carnivale! Give up that third bloody season of Deadwood! And snatch "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" from FX so they can cuss and show titties!...And thus, Omar don't scare! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • March 12, 2006, 9 a.m. CST

    Gene Pontecorvo is not a new character.

    by Nate Champion

    You might remember him smashing Little Paulie over the head with a snapple bottle at the construction site in front of Meadow's boyfriend last season.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Has slone13 guy ever watched the show before?

    by mythkiller

    Eugene has been around since Season 3. And you forgot to mention that Ray Curto dies too. That's why Eugene hangs himself. With Ray dead, the FBI needs a new main informant. Did you even see the new episodes?

  • March 12, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    even greater irony ...

    by pistolopera

    HBO accidentally posted a complete plot synosis of episode 1 -- FULL of spoilers -- last week. it was up for at LEAST 24 hours!

  • March 12, 2006, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Not reading the invisotext

    by sundancekeed

    Not for this. I've waited too long and I'm just gonna sit back and let it wash over me this year. The best show on television is finally back. And yeah, Battlestar kicked ass Friday.

  • March 12, 2006, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Fucking Dream Sequences Suck

    by fiester

    I remember that crap episode last year that had me yawning. Dream episodes smack of writer desperation just slightly less egregious than introducing a Cousin Oliver type.

  • March 12, 2006, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Would love to see a cross over between Sopranos

    by spike fan

    and the shield. Common Vick Macky and Tony Soprano who would win???

  • March 12, 2006, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Eugene's been around since season 3?

    by slone13

    Wow. I guess I never noticed him. Or had any real reason to remember him. It HAS been 2 years...

  • March 12, 2006, 1:19 p.m. CST

    pre-airing screenings...

    by VibroCount

    I understand AICN being upset at not getting episodes early... every podunk newspaper has seen the first episode, most have seen two, some have seen three episodes already. Big city TV critics have seen four or more episodes. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/03/08/DDGHGHJIJ41.DTL) Many have already printed spoilers. AICN has always been a fan of The Sopranos and HBO. Why the freeze out on this?

  • March 12, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST

    woah, those are some spoilers

    by newc0253

    anyone know when UK digital viewers will get this?

  • March 12, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Herc wants a war with HBO.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    They will bury you, sour grapes and all.

  • March 12, 2006, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Can't wait to see Uncle Junior get wacked.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    Thats the episode I'm waiting to see.

  • March 12, 2006, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Great writeup Herc!

    by Darth Thoth

    BTW, years ago my mom had a great idea which of course could never happen now. But when Oz was still airing my mother said Sopranos should end with Tony getting arrested and being sent to Oz. How cool would that have been? I'm not saying it was feasible and honestly I'm glad they didn't do it but just the concept/ idea I think was cool and funny. Tonight it's on at 9pm!

  • March 12, 2006, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Jesus, they're desperate to get rid of the Firefly dvds

    by Nate Champion

    24.95 for a complete season? Considering HBO sells The Sopranos and others for about $100. Scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren't they?

  • March 12, 2006, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Man, I kinda wish I hadn't read that...

    by NivekJ

    That is all. I'm sure the episodes will be great.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Now that Tony is dead...

    by Razorback

    Everything else is just a dream, like in Dallas... but in reverse.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Well, that episode accomplished one of my great dreams

    by Angry Mean Panda

    Which is seeing the old dude from the Six Flags commercials cap somebody and hide in a closet.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:04 p.m. CST

    that was the first Sopranos i've ever watched.

    by HypeEndsHere

    fucking good.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Lost, meet The Sopranos...

    by slder78

    Sopranos, meet the wannabe.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Was pretty good.

    by chickychow

    A little too much time spent on the Pontecorvo storyline, but other than that a solid episode, and most importantly, not a crashing disappointment.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:34 p.m. CST

    great stuff!

    by pistolopera

    loved the trippy william burroughs intro ... favorite lines: "i can't stand him with his fuckin jackoff face ... the eyebrows!!" "pussy malanga? i know - we'll get j. edgar hoover right on it." "the circle-jerk of life" yes i'm stoned on the weed but did anybody else notice how ridiculously aurally magnified tony's vader-like breathing was, particularly in the funeral, sushi, & melfi scenes? ... this show NEVER disappoints. i just hope they kill tony @ the end of the series -- to do anything else would be a puss out.

  • March 12, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    what was the meaning of the picture that

    by durhay

    Ginny gave Sack?

  • March 12, 2006, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Forget about Tony, they killed off Dana on 'The L Word'

    by Goon Bighead

    'The Sopranos' was fucking great, and so was 'The L'!!!!

  • March 12, 2006, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Ton'ys fat will be the only thing that keeps him alive!

    by ProzacMorris

    That, and some quick medical attention. 280 fuckin' pouds!

  • March 12, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    the show sucks...

    by Captain Happy

    ...& hasn't been good since season 2 (with the exception of Season 3's "Pine Barrens"). The premiere had all kinds of bells & whistles; hanging, execution, the senile grandpa bit..but none of it has the inventiveness & fun of the first two seasons. David Chase has really fallen asleep at the wheel with regards to what he could've done with the show & has instead opted for hackneyed "shock" tactics; & I cease to see the point of the show now that all the fun has been removed - it's just another crime drama; & a bad cliched one at that. Chase is doing tragedy for its own sake - & it just leaves a bitter taste in the viewer's mouth - & gives no trace of catharsis.

  • March 12, 2006, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Comparing Sopranos and Lost is like comparing

    by Novaman5000

    Apples and Bowling balls. Both are good at what they do, lets not chose sides here. Good episode tonight, though. Haven't really watched in a few seasons but I'm always pleased with the quality of this show.

  • March 12, 2006, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Angry Mean Panda

    by sundancekeed

    Dude, I nearly spewed a drink all over the monitor. That was some funny shit!

  • March 12, 2006, 11:45 p.m. CST

    NateC - DVD prices and Sleeper Cell plug

    by MrD

    The Firefly DVDs are appropriately priced. A typical tv season runs betwen $45 - 50, with anywhere from $5-15 discounted depending on the store. Firefly went a little over half a season, and retails for about $35, discounted down to $25-30 in some stores. The Sopranos typically retails for $80, but is often marked down to $60, though S1-3 have just been lowered to $50. Most people believe that the HBO series are terribly overpriced (Oz runs over $50 for just 8 episodes). Same is true for the X-Files and Trek sets, which until recently ran over $100 per season, with relatively sparse extras. A great deal can be had at DeepDiscount DVD for the 1st season of Sleeper Cell can be had for $20. Solid show with some great performances, and, as far as plausible plots go, it kicks 24's ass.

  • March 12, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Could we have one Coax post that does not

    by Dark Knight Lite

    shill for the overrated nonsense that is Joss Whedon? For the love of God, Herc, how about an Amazon link for Kolchak: The Night Stalker? Or Batman the Animated Series? Or F*cking Diagnosis Murder for Chrissakes? This obsession must be stopped! This is a Sopranos post, so why not a link for the past season sets? But NOOOOOOO - you gotta blow Joss some more. Maybe Harry should fire your ass and get someone who covers the TV scene more fully, and not just the constant buffy/firefly/galactica matrix. when last I looked, two of those shows were mercifully off the air. Dark Knight Out.

  • March 13, 2006, 5:54 a.m. CST

    This is David Chase, king of unresolved storylines.

    by Photoman

    Remember, just because a guy was introduced in the first episode of this season doesn't mean there's a storyline going anywhere. This is David Chase we're talking about...great at setting stuff up, but never going anywhere with it. Gee, what ever happened to that Russian guy that ran off in the woods and stole Paulie's car? Did they ever resolve that or did they just tidy it up with about 2 lines of offhanded dialog? Good job there David.

  • March 13, 2006, 7:15 a.m. CST

    uh, yeah. see the thing about unresolved storylines

    by HypeEndsHere

    is that they're A) true to life and B) a way to keep the audience from guessing everything that's going to happen. if they do revisit a loose end, it feels like a real world and the viewer feels smarter for having recognized a previous puzzle piece coming into play.

  • March 13, 2006, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Agreed

    by JustBen

    Unresolved storylines are more like real life. (I know, I know, stories are supposed to be more clean and satisfying than real life, but it works here.)

  • March 13, 2006, 8:38 a.m. CST

    WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

    by YouIgnorantGeeks

    I read the spoiler part after watching the show, thinking it may give a little more insite to something or whatever.... WHAT THE HELL IS WITH SPOILING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WEEK!!! You know what I mean... in the first invisotext where you say its only a spoiler for todays episode... at the end you basically answer the question thats on everyones minds... AND DID THAT IN THE FIRST INVISOTEXT.. NOT THE SECOND ONE WHERE YOU SAY IT CONTAINS EPISODE 2 SPOILERS... BUT THE FIRST ONE! ASSHOLE.

  • March 13, 2006, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Meadow's Dance

    by Belvis

    Anyone have screen grabs of Meadow's little "Look at my camel toe" dance from last night? Girl grew up!!

  • March 13, 2006, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Here's Hoping they Pull Back from the Abyss

    by _Maltheus_

    I just rewatched the series prior to this premier and I really hope it picks up a bit from the last two seasons. It probably would have made for a better plot if someone under him had shot Tony. How he managed to shit on his subordinates so much and not get wacked is incomprehensible. In season 5, everyone under him was turning against him and he was in trouble with New York. Johnny Sack getting arrested should have made this all go away. They've turned Tony into an unlikeable prick, rather than just a "bad" guy. And now this whole thing with Junior seems like a replay of Livia trying to kill him (albeit from a truly impaired angle). On the other hand, Meadow is the hottest thing on TV. God damn!

  • March 13, 2006, 10:33 a.m. CST

    How'd Melfi Know?

    by Darkfyre

    That Tony grabbed that pillow when he went to visit his mother after she tried to have him whacked? Hard to image he would have related such an incriminating detail in therapy. Perhaps she saw it when she watched the first season on DVD.

  • March 13, 2006, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Uncle Joon's "nemesis"

    by Fireball XL-5

    I thought it was interesting in a Hamlet kind of way that when Uncle Junior shot Tony he imagined he was defending himself against Pussy Malenga, the close associate he whacked way back at the beginning of the first season. He said the name before pulling the trigger, and mentioned ite earlier in the episode as well. Cool full-circle stuff.

  • March 13, 2006, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Do a lot of people not watch the Soprano's?...

    by vinceklortho

    man, I was biting my fingernails waiting for this bitch to come back on. I would of thought, come Monday morning, this talkback would be filled. Alas, maybe most of you nerds can't afford HBO. No harm in that. Great intro. and interesting developments. I love how Tony's crew seems to be switched around a lot. You have the gay fat guy, Vito, as Captain now, along with Christopher. I love how they allude to Vito being a cocksmoker with that grabbing of the hotdog thing. Hilarious. However, the blantant foreshadowing of Tony getting it was both obnoxious and really fucking good writing. I can't decide which. The sushi, the weight problem, talk from the group. Who knows...good idea to not show scenes for next weeks. That means quick medical help and Tony in the hospital for awhile, while the family looks for the next successor. AJ's going to step it up pretty soon. He'll drop out of school. Any other theories?

  • March 13, 2006, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Meadow's dance = animated gif avatar

    by durhay

  • March 13, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Angry Mean Panda's old gread adventure guy remark...

    by SK909

    was the funniest fucking thing I've ever read in a talkback. I kept picturing him shooting Tony, running upstairs, then turning around in the closet to look at the camera and bust out dancing. What's funny is when i was watching the show and saw uncle junior without his teeth, especially near the end, I kept thinking, "I've seen someone else who looks like this..." but I couldn't put my finger on it cause I was so involved with the show. That's how good it is... and another thing, how about the fact that most of our favorite television shows best episodes could EASILY kick the ass in the drama, interest, writing, and acting departments of pretty much every movie nominated for best picture. Seriously, the movies suck compared to the best of what's on tv now. It makes the dream of writing or directing films turn into the dream of having your own series.

  • March 13, 2006, 12:49 p.m. CST

    make one durhay....and share it....

    by BadBrad

    ...

  • March 13, 2006, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Junior's Long Con?

    by durhay

    Is it possible that he's faking it, or was medical evidence presented that shows he really has demientia?

  • March 13, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST

    or even dementia?

    by durhay

    and Vito lost weight in order to fit in his closet better.

  • March 13, 2006, 1:42 p.m. CST

    durhay, i've considered that...

    by chickychow

    That would be terrific, if it was all a brilliant disguise. alas, i don't think they're going that way, i think he's gonna be a goner before this season ends... And what's up with Vito, he thinkin about taking on Tony? (not in THAT way, you dirty devils)

  • March 13, 2006, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Good Return to Form

    by Rich Malone

    Great episode. everybody catching up and getting bumps (Christopher, Vito..). Anybody notice the calmness btwn Carmella and Tony? When she asked him why he went to the sushi joint wihtout her, I thought she was gonna accuse him of taking a goomar. She was just mad she missed out on some 'fresh fish'. And the Adrianna flashbacks should haunt Christopher, not Carmella just a thought. Loved the way that rat motherfucker croaked just as he was making another brodcast on W.R.A.T. (hilarious), and was really hoping that dude was gonna get a pass to Florida by Tony (until it was found that he was a WRAT co-anchor). Meadow's boyfriend did not at ALL look interested in her lil' striptease, even though she was looking muff-tacular. And Johhny Sac wasn't looking at the picture because he was mad he missed his niece's party.... He was thinkin' to himself 'I do a yard and a half on Rikers and all I got to come home to is this fuckin' chubby champion bitch?! What do you guys think?

  • March 13, 2006, 2:52 p.m. CST

    WTF is wrong with you guys?

    by busby

    How can you say things have been slipping, and how can you say that the dream sequences are terrible. This is one program that just seems to grow from series to series have watched them all in the last few months in preperation for it starting again and it gets better and better. Series five third last episode cant remember the name but it's mainly an episode long dream sequence and IMHO the best episode yet!

  • March 13, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Sushi....

    by vinceklortho

    I love how they added this as something Carmela and Tony could bond with, yet Tony went by himself that one time. What does this say? Not only does the rat croak in the car, but the Feds' other leak kills himself at the end. Hilarious. But, not really, cause I really felt for the guy and wanted him to take off to Florida. Both Vito and Chris seemed very anxious to make moves, while Tony made his usual, calculated peace treaties to settle things down. With J. Sacks in the slammer and I'm assuming, Tony in the hospital, you will have someone else running Jersey's family without Tony, and going against Phil, who made a bad mistake beating up the Jewish guy. Chris wanted to go after him. Tony calmed him down. There is going to be bad problems coming up with Tony out of the picture.

  • March 13, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Eugene's been around since the first season

    by jtp8000

    He was a backround punk and finally fot made the same time Christopher was. He's been in and out of the picture since. Jesus- if you want to spoil a show at least know the show

  • March 13, 2006, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Dream Sequences

    by _Maltheus_

    I hate the dream sequences, and that season 5 ep with the super-long dream sequence was the worse. Not many shows make dream sequences feel like dreams. Real dreams are never so pointed. They come across as a deus ex machina to push the plot along (especially that horrible Big Pussy dream). .......... I had a problem with the last two seasons because they seemed repetitive and they lacked the fun of the earlier seasons. Tony is just a complete prick now and given Richie, Ralph, Tony Uncle Al, I would be looking to take Tony out if I worked under him, just to survive. It just seems like the same story over and over again. Still a good show though. I just don't know why Chase needs years to come up with these plots. ....... (fake spoiler) I hear that in this season, Tony's brother-in-law Vinny gets out of prison. But he has difficulties adjusting so he turns witness for the feds. Tony has a dream and realizes he has to deal with him and Vinny ends up dying in some unexpected way. Actually, I didn't hear that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be true. It sounds like almost every season. ...... I, like everyone, would like them to do the Russian story, not just because it's unresolved, but because it has great potential. I would also like to see AJ get drawn into Tony's world a bit. That's where the best remaining plotlines are to be found. Maybe even something as simple as AJ killing someone in a moment of rage and having to go to his Dad to clean it up. AJ and Meadow are the only source of good material going forward. Meadow is better at manipulation than Livia even. She needs to start dating Christopher down the line now that Adriana is gone (or some other made guy). Tony has as much chance at keeping AJ out of the mob as he does in remaining faithful to Carm.

  • March 13, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Dreams, Russians and Johnny Sack

    by chickychow

    I'm a huge fan of the show, roll with the ups and downs (i.e. most of season 4) and I must admit the dream eps do nothing for me. I didn't care for it during the last ep of season 2 (talking fish tell Tony he must wack Pussy) and certainly didn't like it last season where Tony's dream just about predicted the future concerning Tony B and his problems with the Leotardos. The show does alot of things right, but dream eps ain't one of them... And regarding the Russian, you just know that every season since they've gathered together and discussed whether or not to bring him back. I don't mind if we never see THAT character again, but it seemed to me that the Russian mob wouldve been a cool foil for our guys, I would've liked to seen them tangle with a different kind of Mafia, one that went about things differently... and finally, I think when Johnny Sack was looking at the pic of his daughters, he sincerely felt sad that he missed out on the party. He's going to start thinking, do I want to miss their life while I'm rotting behind bars, or do I want to spend it with them somewhere.. Florida maybe?

  • March 13, 2006, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Tales of Mystery and Imagination

    by Kentucky Colonel

    LP by the Alan Parsons Project. It fucking RULES! The first track is called "Dream Within A Dream" is the best dream sequence, EVER. Of course this bad boy dates to 1975 and most of you whipper-snappers weren't alive then, so forgive me if I date myself (I was only 5 in '75) but you fanboys would do a lot worse than to chuck over 12.99 to Tower Records and grab a copy. This is the LP that has "The Raven" on it, to boot. Oh, yeah...GREAT EPISODE!!! I, too, missed the walk down the drive to get the paper. Seeing Gino hang himself is as close as I ever want to get to seeing someone off himself, save for the one dude in "Bowling for Columbine", which was sadly all too real (((shudder))). Uncle Junior takes the cake. And Bobby Baccala in his engineer's hat...HI-LARIOUS. Love to see him off somebody in that. See you next Sunday!

  • March 13, 2006, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Unresolved stories aren't really stories then.

    by Photoman

    If nothing is resolved, is you bring characters into a story and then just have them doing things with no beginning/middle/end...then it's just a bunch of stuff that happens. Yes, it's like that in real life, but it shouldn't be that way in stories else there's no reason to even watch the fricken thing! I'm not looking for major "let's tie everything all up in a neat package and spoon feed the fans" type of resolution. But Jesus...give us SOMEthing! And I agree with chickychow, I didn't really need to know what happened to THAT Russian, but nothing happened with the Russian mob at all. It just kinda laid flat. And that's really my beef. If you don't resolve some things, the whole thing just lays flat. Also, what is with the FBI chick? Two years ago she had a personality, she had a kid and a husband when she was trying to infiltrate the family via Adriana. I mean, she was acting like a real human and then all of a sudden she reveals herself to Adriana and she becomes ROBOT WOMAN! It's like her entire personality was erased. Gone were any mention of her husband or her life...which is fine, but the writers also gave her a lobotomy too in the script department. WTF?

  • March 13, 2006, 6:15 p.m. CST

    jtp8000

    by slone13

    If by saying "in and out of the picture" you really meant "in 2 episodes of last season with a combined screen time of less than 6 minutes total" then you're right. Don't be bitter that a quasi-fan got to go the premiere and you didn't. That's just life, pal.

  • March 14, 2006, 4:44 a.m. CST

    What's up with the FBI guy with the stomach bug?

    by Farging Bastige

    He caught the Pakastani Flu while on assignment with Antiterrorism? Bullcrap on stilts. Something's else is going on there. Major shakeups with the families in NY and NJ, major shakeups happenin' with the DC boys too I betcha. Or maybe it's a red herring.

  • March 14, 2006, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Hey! David Chase! Here's a GREAT dream sequence:

    by Farging Bastige

    Tony mulls over what to do about Phil Leotardo and Johnny Sack with the 90 pound mole taken from Ginny Sack's ass.

  • March 14, 2006, 5:55 a.m. CST

    What's with the sushi bar too?

    by Photoman

    They were making a big deal about Tony and Carm going to the sushi bar ALL episode...yet it went really no where. Ok...um...they like the restaurant. And that adds to the story how again? That continues it how exactly? They kept cutting to the Asian waitress serving them, for no reason other than to cut to her. Will this have a pay off anywhere? Will Tony get sick from the sushi at some point? Now that Tony is in a coma for the next few shows or so, will Carm now get sick? Is Tony doing the waitress? WTF again? All these little slices do NOT add to the story...only in that Carm and Tony are having fun kind of together...yet Tony bought her that Porshe as if he had a guilty conscience. Yet he didn't have one that I could tell. And no, I don't know where the story is going and others have pointed that out as to why it makes this series great. That you can't predict where it's going. But the thing is, it doesn't really go ANYwhere! It's fine to have something keep you guessing and not being predictable...but for Christsake, at least GO somewhere.

  • March 14, 2006, 6:02 a.m. CST

    Also, let's go full throttle on the "real life" thing

    by Photoman

    I've seen others above talk about how unresolved storylines are more "real life". Ok, then how about this...let's make it totally real life. Let there be a episode of just Uncle Junior sitting on the couch watching a movie. For the entire show. That's real life...people sit and watch movies for hours while sitting on the couch. Unresolved stories are usually the hallmark of bad storytelling. Ungifted writing. Everyone is so amazed at how great the dialog is, and it is. But the over-all, big-picture of the story that is "The Sopranos" is pretty weak. But hey, good times right?

  • March 14, 2006, 7:39 a.m. CST

    that FBI guy better not have the bird flu

    by durhay

    if it shows up, it should be from the ducks in Tony's pool. Who else was waiting for a jump cut to Tony doing the waitress?

  • March 14, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Photman - FBI chick

    by MovieWhore

    Well if I remember right ... the chick with the husband and baby was replaced by the FBI shortly after she revealed herself to Adrianna .. something about Ad's emotional detachment to someone she thought was her friend. So they replaced her with the robotic super bitch who has been .. well .. a super bitch in every episode .. so not really a change in attitude for her .. peace

  • March 14, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Photoman....I understand the questions.

    by vinceklortho

    I, for the life of me, am trying to see what was going on in that episode. That's why I like it, though. No simple answers, just a lot of buildup. Hey, it's only the first episode of the season. I believe it was only used to show, in subtle and frustrating ways, how much the family has changed from the last season. You can look at the sushi, stomach parasite caught from Afghanistan, even Tony getting shot in the stomach as an omnious metaphor for things to come in the next few episodes. Even though things are good, as Tony exclaims...maybe there might be something a little "unsettling" brewing in the stomach. Sorry, had to get a little deep there. Or, at least think I'm getting deep! But, hey, Chase seemed to get a little deep with a William Burrough's monologue at the beginning. Still can't figure that sucker out. Remember, these writers don't just write to write. I believe they think about everything they put into the show. It's like Lost. People complain because no big revelations are revealed. In Soprano's, people complain because no big hits are made. The joys in the show are the little subtle things that can get overlooked. Pure genius, if you ask me.

  • March 14, 2006, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Oh, Photoman, one more thing...

    by vinceklortho

    asking all those questions is a GOOD thing. I wouldn't take that as a sign of anything poor. It's a testament to the writing of the show that, god forbid, you have to think about things on your own. Keep asking the questions!

  • March 14, 2006, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Unresolved

    by homerofthesea

    I guess there are some storylines that never get fully resolved (just like life), but for the most part, and especially in the cases that everyone keeps bringing up, there is a resolution, if you

  • March 14, 2006, 3:30 p.m. CST

    fwiw

    by Homer Sexual

    First episode was pretty good. We've been pretty turned off from the Sopranos the past two seasons. Seasons 1 and 2 rocked, but it's really been downhill from there. I even felt last night was just so depressing. It was like going to church (i.e, a self-imposed obligation) rather than something to anticipate. But the whole sort of self-contained storyline about winning the lottery and realizing suicide is the only honorable option....that was quite good. Episode 2 sounds like more of the boring,though.

  • March 14, 2006, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Furio and Feech

    by chickychow

    I want both Furio and Feech to come back. That'll shake things up bigtime. Furio I'm willing to bet will return before the series is through. Feech, however, I doubt. For whatever reason they wrote that character in, made him extremely entertaining, then didn't know what to do with him so wrote him out. He should get released from prison carrying a HUGE grudge against Tony and Chris...

  • March 14, 2006, 8:43 p.m. CST

    feds

    by Malebolgia

    didn't the fed get sick after eating at Satriale's. maybe they poisoned his sammitch? episode was ok. meadow looks a little like yoshi from nintendo games.

  • March 15, 2006, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Re/ chickychow

    by Rich Malone

    I doubt that they'll allow Feech's character to make a return to the Jersey crew. The actor that portrayed Feech (Robert Loggia), was having a hard time remembering his lines. Chase, instead of killing his character off, sent him back to prison.