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Quint interviews V FOR VENDETTA co-creator and illustrator David Lloyd!!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with one of my two chats with folk from the upcoming V FOR VENDETTA flick. I have director James McTeigue waiting in the wings for my mighty transcription skills. Up first however is David Lloyd, who created the original comic along with Alan Moore. Not only did he write it, he also drew it, so much of the unique visual style of the VENDETTA universe is his doing.
Mr. Lloyd was at the New York Comic Con when I conducted this interview, via phone. That's all the background you need, except to be warned of some big spoilers. Enjoy!
QUINT: I'm a long time attendee of San Diego Comic-Con, but I've never been to New York's Comic-Con. Have you been on the floor yet?
DAVID LLOYD: Uh, yeah. In fact, Saturday... I was supposed to be signing on Saturday, but there was a big... I don't know whether you heard about this, but it was oversold on Saturday and the fire marshall had to come in to stop anybody else coming in!
QUINT: That's nuts, man.
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, and even crazier is there were guys going out to have lunch and then not being able to get back in, so it was completely nuts. So, I didn't do a signing on Saturday, but I did run to the Dark Horse (booth) on Sunday and then one at D.C. at the same time. But I wasn't there very long. It was a matter of getting back for more interviews yesterday afternoon.
QUINT: I guess that's just good news for the New York Comic-Con that it's getting that big.
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, I mean that's great. You know, I was kinda surprised that they had that situation happen because I would have imagined that they would see that there was lots of response and that there was going to be a lot of people here. Actually, it's my first time being here. I mean, I usually go to San Diego. I mean, San Diego is one I'm at every year and this is the first time I've been here.
QUINT: Does the floor compare to San Diego?
DAVID LLOYD: Well... I couldn't get around much, Eric. That was the big problem. I did a couple of signings, you know, and I just didn't get to see much else of it. But, apparently, it's about half of the size, I think, people were telling me...
QUINT: I saw V FOR VENDETTA in December at Butt-Numb-A-Thon...
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, I heard about that. It had a nice reaction, too.
QUINT: Yeah, everybody flipped for it.
DAVID LLOYD: Good.
QUINT: I was curious as to how much input you had on the movie, throughout all the stages of development. Did they come to you at all?
DAVID LLOYD: No... The only input I had was they sent me the script before they started production. I got a call from Grant Hill and then Larry and Andy (Wachowski) and they sort of said, "We want to send it to you." I said to them, "Are you open to suggestions?" and they said, "Yeah." (laughs)
So, when I got it, I sort of made some comments about it, but generally speaking my attitude towards it was incredibly positive. I'm glad that they ended up doing it because I knew they were longtime fans of it. I think the first time I saw that it was liable to happen was I saw the sort of first poster thing that was on the internet, which was that first one that they did with the mask and the V sign. They'd obviously kind of reproduced the graphic novel cover on that and that really made me feel optimistic about their whole involvement because you could see from that they were determined to keep it close to the original.
They used the original graphic novel as storyboards, practically. That's what James (McTeigue, director) and Joel (Silver, producer) have been saying. Owen Paterson, the designer, was concerned about getting things looking exactly like the original. So it's all turned out really well and although there were changes that were made to it, a lot of those changes they had to make because they had to abbreviate what was being said, but the central core of it all, as you obviously know having seen it, is exactly... all the key instants, the way things happen and the philosophy behind it, the messages behind it... it's all there. I mean, it's all done in a different way, with broader strokes, broader brush strokes because of its shortness... I mean, the original was massive. You couldn't have done that unless you'd done it as a sort of TV show, really, because there's so much material.
But I think what they've done is a really great adaptation. I wouldn't be supporting them in it if I didn't think otherwise.
QUINT: Did you ever visit the set at all?
DAVID LLOYD: No, I didn't. To be honest... them having done what they've done, I don't think they really needed me, but they did invite me to be part of the crowd, sort of like a little cameo. (laughs) That's not my scene, you know... you just give me a credit and I'm happy. So, yeah... I think it's turned out really good.
QUINT: So, obviously, you've seen the movie then, yeah?
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, I saw it in November.
QUINT: I really loved the way Adrian Biddle, the cinematographer, translated the universe that you created. I thought it was a beautiful job. Is this the first time you've seen something you've worked on translated into another medium?
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah and it's quite incredible. I tell you, it's a big shame that he's not around now. I would have loved to have been able to say hello and shake his hand because, as you say, he did such a really nice job on it. It's really extraordinary seeing something that you've created come to life like that.
I remember when I first saw it... I was actually sitting next to Larry in the theater and seeing the Shadow Gallery for the first time... it was really great. But the scene that I'm telling everybody really most impressed me in terms of its comparison to the original is the scene where... the transformation scene between Hugo Weaving and Natalie Portman where she comes out of that jail to find out that V is her torturer and they go through that moment, that kind of epiphany. Seeing that... I mean, it's just like seeing one of your paintings come to life because I really worked hard when I actually drew that scene to make it as believable as I possibly could. The way they did it was great. You can't really ask for better than that. There were lots of scenes like that throughout the film, but that is the one that really stands out for me.
QUINT: And that stood out because it was done better or because it matched what you drew?
DAVID LLOYD: It matched the original. You know, it's like... If you've done something and you tried to elicit a feeling and an emotion... I mean, that was a very difficult scene to draw to begin with because you see... It's an interesting thing about comics, Eric, that to a degree you have to use a certain amount of exaggeration in comics because you've got a limitation... A camera can be on somebody for a long time and you can get a whole variety of meaning and nuance and expression. In comics you have to use it, but you've got to limit that because too much exaggeration and it overplays, but not enough and it underplays. So, doing an emotional scene like that, drawing it, you really have to walk the line.
As I say, I really worked hard to try and get that exactly right in the book and when they did it on film...
QUINT: They nailed it.
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, they did nail it. You used the right expression! (laughs) So, yeah... I think that speaks volumes to me about the dedication of the filmmakers to the original work.
QUINT: Was there a moment that more than matched the original for you, that was better than your original to you? Where you went, "Man, why didn't I think of doing it that way?"
DAVID LLOYD: Well, I think because they stuck so close to the original in the visual aspects of it... all the key instance scenes seemed like they did them in that way and I think quite affectively. I congratulate them the most, if you're asking me sort of about changes, I congratulate them on the final part, on the ending. It was a very clever idea of having all those people in the masks because basically what it kind of symbolizes is an act of mass defiance, which is actually a mass defiance made up of individuals because, of course, V is representing the individuals' action. But the public adopting that persona through the mask and then becoming one... basically it was like all for one and one for all.
It was a very clever, symbolic way of doing everything.
QUINT: It just made it V's true success, that his ultimate goal was achieved because all he wanted to do was wake the people up...
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, exactly. That's right. In the original, V was more of a dreamer, really, because he planed chaos followed by anarchy. Yet there was no way that you could actually plan for anarchy. He could plan for chaos, but what happened after chaos was something he had no way of sustaining, so in the film they've made V more of a pragmatic character who knows what his limitations are and he's sort of happy with achieving that.
QUINT: Cool, man. How about the opposite? Was there any moment you saw in the film where you went, "Hrmm... I wish they would have hit the moment more like I did..."
DAVID LLOYD: Well, I don't know... It's very difficult for me to make that judgment because I think... You know, a lot of people... I've done a bunch of interviews this morning and people are saying, "There isn't a lot of action in it," and stuff like that. It's kind of quiet. And yeah, it's a Hollywood movie, so I think... Let's see if I can answer this in a sensible way... (laughs) I'm sort of floundering a bit here... What I'm trying to say, really, is within the limitations of the audience... I mean, they have to make a movie that was for Hollywood, whereas we were making a story that was for a different audience and an audience that didn't have to be pleased on a massive scale. Let's face it, we're talking about a global scale here because it's going to be released all around the world.
So, their working position was so completely different to mine and Alan's that making a comparison is almost impossible. In fact, because of that, the adherence to the original is all the more laudable, you know? Bearing in mind the fact that they were making a movie for a mass audience... it's just great that they've managed to keep it so close to the original in tone and velocity.
QUINT: Before we have to break this off, I really want to touch upon Hugo Weaving and his performance as V. One thing that I noticed from the very first trailer, what I loved about hearing Hugo's voice coming from behind the mask was that it sounded like the scraggily words in the comics from whenever he spoke. He nailed the audible version of that wavy font...
DAVID LLOYD: Yeah, yeah! (laughs) I'll tell you... When we did that our idea was that he was... We had no idea what V's voice was going to sound like except that it'd be kind of strange. We conceived of something that would be maybe assisted by some sort of electronics or something. A bit like the PHIBES movies, you know? Vincent Price as PHIBES?
QUINT: Of course.
DAVID LLOYD: We conceived of something like that, but obviously what they've done... They must have done some experiments on tones of voice, but I think it sounds great. If they had done it kind of too spooky, I think it would have upset the balance of things...
QUINT: He's got to be a charmer, too, or else he doesn't work as a character...
DAVID LLOYD: Exactly! That's right, that's true. I think they do a great job with it.
QUINT: Fantastic, man. What're you working on?
DAVID LLOYD: There's nothing on the drawing board at the moment, but the next new thing that's coming out for me is something called KICK BACK, which is a police thriller. Dark Horse is publishing that in summer. That should be out for San Diego. That's a 92 page hardback comic-size crime story.
QUINT: I'll have to pick it up when I'm out there. Thanks so much for taking your time to chat with. I hope to shake your hand one of these times at San Diego.
DAVID LLOYD: All right, Eric. If you do see me at San Diego, for God's sake come up and say hello.
QUINT: I certainly will.
DAVID LLOYD: Bye-bye, mate.
And there you have it. Before you ask, I did ask for a dirty joke before we got off the phone with each other, but Mr. Lloyd didn't have one. I hope you enjoyed the interview. Look out for my chat with James McTeigue, which should be hitting very, very soon. Until then, this is Quint bidding you all a fond farewell and adieu.
-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com
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At last!
I can legitimately wear the V tshirt Alan and Dave (and Dez Skinn)autographed for me in Cardiff in 1986!
I just hope it still fits me....
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The only thing I worry about is the actual ending
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..where all the people turn up in V masks. I'm afraid it 'dragged me out of the picture' for a minute, as it made me wonder where they got the masks, etc.
Silly, I know, but that's what I thought.
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I still hope Alan will see the movie. I think he will be the ultimate critic and would be interested in his thoughts. I don't think Alan will be as forgiving as David. But I agree with David that it is still amazing that this has been made in the first place for a global audience.
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Jesus.
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But I can't wait for the film anyway, and I'm sure this interview will be great after I see it!
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Everyone on this site has been praising Portman's performance. But all the english press keep bringing up is her crap accent. Very few American seem to be able to do subtle english accents. English actors seem to be able to cope with American accents. Can someone tell me why? I guess we english have all grown up on american TV/movies.
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I don't know how much more blatant the huge box marked spoiler can be. Just don't click on it. It's funny, people don't expect covers of songs to be slavishly faithful. You can have your sin cities but it's another person's vision of a piece of work. Who wants to see films that are just comics as shooting scripts?
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Hey Batjack, perhaps it wasn't as clear as it could've been but 'V' had masks mailed out to everybody, you saw people opening up parcels. Just to clarify.
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Bicycle Thief, you have a point. Portman's performance is very good, but her accent is slightly off a few times. But generally it's not off-putting. If it spoils the film, I think you'd be focusing on it too much. I'm not surprised US critics didn't mention it as they wouldn't hear the faults. She goes a little too posh occasionally, then slips back into estuary English.
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The reason is that we americans, in order to imitate the english accent, have to ADD inflections and subtleties to our pronunciations. The letter 'r' has a less pronounced, but still recognizable, sound. You english, on the other hand, simply have to speak "flatly" (no more variances in 'r' or 'a'). However, you english still have a hard time with southern accents (where you add inflections) and, hardest of all, new-england accents (Massachusetts and Maine being the worst offenders). I dont believe tv has as much to do with it as one might think. When I lived in the south, people seemed to watch tv just as voraciouly as anyone else. However, most people in the south are incapable of changing their accents. Perhaps thats the case with most people?
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before another terrorist attack postpones it again. I don't care if they blow up Big Ben, just release the thing. And who cares about her accent, you lymies. There are plenty of English actors who slip in and out of American accents and I don't have a hissy fit.
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Hehehe... I like how they both mentioning being to San Diego, but not having attended NY before... that's cause this year is the first. :-)
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I can't believe I know how this film ends!!!!! I was gonna catch this on dvd, but it was a film I was quietly looking forward to, so I'd hardly studied up on it...and now...AGH!
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And for the record it's 'limeys', as in the English sailors who ate limes to avoid getting scurvy. Right letters, wrong order. :^) ---- Can't bloody wait for this film.
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apologies for the repetition of my post :,-(
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i realize I'm going out on a limb here, but that seems to be the answer
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Considering that jail sequence is one of the best and most important parts of the book--not too mention most shocking. I'm surprised there wasn't any warning at all. For those that haven't read it, you just got a nice big plot point completely ruined. Nice. And Bruce Willis is a ghost at the end, by the way. WHOOPS!
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I'm usually someone that tries to avoid
all spoilers. Thanks for the warning.
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He the daddy.
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who didnt disown the movie to do the interview. good.
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let's be honest, he had some great concepts and designs but the execution looks horribly dated by modern standards. the shitty colouring didn't help either.
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Portman's accent is the only shakey part of her performance. There's some stunning work from her in this esp. during her 'imprisonment', but her accent does seem to switch between cockney and Thames Estuary.
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And as for the ending, since seeing it in Berlin, it's growing on me. It's not the book, but as Lloyd says, it's a Hollywood film so I wonder what I expected in terms of subtlety. Can't wait to see it again in the UK, esp on IMAX.
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This entire article could not be accessed without clicking on the huge box marked very clearly with the word spoiler. If you chose to click on it, don't be surprised that it has a spoiler.
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Brit comics like Warlord did have a look and a style, same way a 70s film does. Things date when they get older - shock. The DC/Marvel classics are also dated - don't think any of it warrants being called shitty. What stuff do you like?
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Asshole.
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My guess is that "Eric" is Quint's real name. You don't exactly gotta be Sherlock Holmes or Bruce Wayne to figure that one out.
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I think his artwork was great, it had the right atmosphere for that time. Someone like Jim Lee's artwork would have looked awful. Just like Lloyds art would not look right on an X-Men title. The colour gave it a gritty desaturated quality, which again added to the atmosphere
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common concensus appears to be Newc...you don't know what you're talking about.
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or more to people when government is looking for that masks? Mail is owned by government. Thats 1000 same packages of unknown origin in the time of high alert on anything suspicious. But even before that. How do you make them? Do you import the pre-designed-made from china couse its cheaper, but some V-s friend had to be there with the original to make sure they dont make some changes, it must be same!? You cant just send them design over email. Or is V so loaded that he can rent a factory and secretly employ some illegal immigrants that are too scared to tell what the are making?
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Warlord. Man, that brings back memories from my childhood. Union Jack Jackson, he rocked.
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perhaps, but i know the following: (1) V for Vendetta ran in Warrior, not Warlord; (2) Warrior was a competitor to 2000AD, a British comic which had far superior artwork at the same time that Vendetta was in print; (3) the colour in V for Vendetta was only added in afterwards when it was picked up by DC; and (4) you don't spell consensus with two 'c's.
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the 5th of November?
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I think Board Shitlez was talking about british comics from that era in general. The comic was intended to be Black and White, so it made it more diffiicult to colour when DC took it on. Still they did a great job with it and I think added to the atmosphere that Alan and David wanted.
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First off, what a shitty idea for a new ending. Anyow, Guy fawkes masks are usually worn by the english public on november 5th (i believe)to go along with a public effigy burning of guy fawkes. The paper machete masks are fairly common and i would imagine easy to make
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again, warlord was 70s. warrior was early-to-mid 80s. to suggest that the artwork of v for vendetta was standard for that time shows a major ignorance of british comic art. maybe shitty was the look that moore was aiming for, but shitty was what he got.
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Even if Al Qaeda succeeds in removing the united states from Iraq. What are their eventual goals? fighting to spread their religious hate?, to keep the old ways going?, like women covering themselves. V is fighting for the freedom of the people. How can't you cheer him on? The fictional government in Vendetta is so controlling, so extreme. I mean exaggerated to the max. That what V is doing is warrented. Comparing that government to the current administration of the united states is just silly. Considering Bush can't be re-elected and the democrat's will soon be in control again. If this fictional future did happen. Hey i'm be all for terrorism. It's in the name of freedom, not to speard fanaticism with hate and violence. To suggest this movie, V for Vendetta is a blueprint on how we should topple the united states or that V is like Al Qaeda. That's just idiotic. In the end this movie will be nothing more than a sign of the times. A time of the paranoid left. Who never got over an election loss.
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yes, and on st george's day, the english all dress up in suits of armour and go jousting. for the record, i've never seen anyone wearing a fucking mask on bonfire night.
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ok, makes sense. And have you and your friend ever tried to do very basic but identical paper machete mask? Also isnt this film fiction. Or did nazis win and kept old britih traditions as was in their zest of respect for other heritage?
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Portman's accent's are always shite! Ever see Cold Mountain or that Wal-Mart baby movie she was in? FAKEST SOUTHERN ACCENT EVER!!! DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
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A reimagined THREE AMIGOS. What next?
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...and cram it up your cramhole.
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Is there subliminal advertising for the upcoming release of V slotted into popular programming? Is this dodgy, outright illegal, or just in keeping with the film's interest in subversion?
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.........you know when you read a spoiler, and your so p!ssed off at the poster, even though it had a spoiler warning and it was my own fault. I just knew, after reading it, it was one of those spoilers that the film hinges on - and now I f*cking know it!! I know it's my own fault, but, for godsake Quint, you could have put something extra before it!!
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hit on you?
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I already read the book so I knew it, but, damn, I feel bad for anyone thinking, "Oh, it's just a minor thing, I'm sure." IT AIN'T.
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Just saw an interview with Alan Moore on the culture show here in the UK and he pretty much said that the film version of V is a travesty and should never have been made.. also said he wants no credit on the film.
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Yes, he is.
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... to the ol' hide-the-spoiler-in-white-text trick? Or at least a little "Here comes the spoiler, folks!"
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Will this movie be any good?
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....some of us have read the comic a gazillion times, so the spoilers mean nothing. And yes, spoilers or not, this film is going to RAWK! It's going to make people think, make them angry, make them want to take action. It's going to be everything that Matrix 2 and 3 were not....as in, GOOD! lol
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Quint, if the spoiler is THAT big - you are a f ucktard
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Someone needs to make a movie that blows the lid off of what evil bastards Americans and Israeli's are especially when compared to the noble Islamic terrorist. And someone should make a movie about how the icons of America's frontier, the cowboys, were really just a bunch of cocksuckers. And then someone should make a movie where England is shown to be a repressive dictatorship that should be destroyed by terrorists. Oh what a minute...never mind.
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The worst fake American accents I've heard were by the Pythons in "Meaning of Life." Whether that was intentional or not, I don't know. BUT! As bad as they were, they didn't out-bad Dick Van Dyke's fake Brit accent. You know the one!
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For fuck's sake... we get used to reading the posts with the red box, but there wasn't even so much as a HINT of a spolier in the article until it's "HEY, HERE'S THE BIGGEST SECRET IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE! GOTCHA!" And by the way, Norman Bates IS his Mother, and Soylent Green is made of people. Enjoy the movie.
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i saw the same show, and all i saw moore say about v is that he hates films being made of his work at all, since he considers his comics superior to cinema, but that if they are, they should be exactly as he wants them or else he disassociates himself. i say, since noone's ever going to let him direct, that he's ALWAYS going to demand his name taken off, and it doesn't necessarily mean there's anything really wrong.
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Nice one Quint. So excited for this film. It's great to get a perspective on it that you wouldn't be able to get anywhere else.
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If you call yourself half cultured you'd have read the graphic novel years ago.
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...seriously. It does NOT sound cool to call your interviewee "man."
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Yes, voxmortis, because it's the cultured folk who read comic books. For those of us living in reality, however, it would still be nice to have a bit more precaution taken in the movie-ruining department.
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The best show on TV is The Wire, and Dominic West is amazing as McNulty. But several times in each episode, I'm reminded that he's really British. Vowel sounds a little off. But I don't complain, because it's an amazing show. I know it's fake, I know Dominic West is acting, so it doesn't matter that he doesn't always sound like he's really from Baltimore. Same with this movie and Natalie Portman...
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I could have sworn I heard him say something like: "And now the lastest abomination is this hollywood version of V for Vendetta".
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What do you expect from the people who run this site? It says at the top of the article about massive spoilers....do you really need it to be in red or tagged with a siren or something? Does your mom still do up the buttons on your jeans and wipe the milk tache from your lip? The day this site charges is the day you can moan about something so pathetic as 'enough of a spoiler' warning.
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o lord newc, the old spelling card. Nice. You'll also noticed I haven't capitalised the first letter of my opening sentence. As Bicycle thief pointed out - I used the word 'like'. I didn't say it was in Warlord - I can't spell - you can't read - we all have problems. 2000AD had vast tracts of crap alongside the good stuff so - Borag Thung Newclet. I'll read V - you read Harlem's Heroes.
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Did anyone see Alan Moore being interviewed on the Culture Show, Thursday night on BBC2. Great interview, the man himself was as eccentric as you would think he would be, big bushy beard and more silver rings on his fingers than a Chav on a kitchen sink Council Estate. Does
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You can watch the Alan Moore interview again here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/
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For those outside the UK who may be having difficulty accessing the first link, how about: http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/mediaplayer/players/bbc2/bb_rm_console.shtml?checkedBandwidth=bb&nbram=1&subtitles=hide&checkedMedia=ram&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&package=4587103
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The only reason I'm bothering to say this is because I like correcting bullshit when the oppurtunity arises. I was there when it was being discussed. What happened was basically the online advanced tickets had basically been 75% sold through by Friday. Good bu not great. However, we all woke up Sat to find that the tickets had sold out. Now, couple that with a large LARGE crowd that simply showed up on Sat hoping, not unreasonably, to buy a ticket then. Howeverm no tickets to be had, so they hung out in the lobby area outside of the con, hoping that enough people would come out of the con, so that they could buy tickets and go in (thus the BS rumor that the show was oversold, it was technically, but they were just trying to sneak in more people who wouldn't have otherwise been able to get in, was it a smart move? no, but they were honestly trying, at least in part, to make as many people happy as possible) The ultimate result was that A (not THE) fire marshall, who did not SHOW UP but was there on staff at the con center, grew concerned about the hundreds of people milling about in the fire lanes and common areas of egress. Now, the LAST big NY comic con was shut down a day before it opened because of fire concerns, so the con people, concerned, stopped selling tickets period, which made a lot of people who had yet to see the inside, unhappy. So thats the real story. The con organizers didn;t get enough credit for doing basically a good job and brining a REAL con back to Ny.
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I hate to say it, but we weren't all that impressed with the art back in the 80's either. In fact, the lack of accesiblity of the art kept me from the book for a decade.
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Speak for yourself. Lloyd's work on Night Raven (70's British comic series) was the first art I ever paid attention to. I was 4. He creates atmosphere and period like no other artist I've seen since. It wasn't standard British art, in fact it was unique in that it seemed so British compared to all the other artists out there. Anyone labelling it 'shitty' ( newc0253-tard) has zero appreciation of art whatsoever. Because it wasn't bright and shiny. Any more fucking idiots want to moan that despite the spoiler warning they read it anyway? Fucking clown shoes.
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newc0253 still has not given us his idea of good comic book artists yet. I'm with Lone Fox on this one. Shiny pristine artwork would not have been right for this kind of story. I lived in England through the Margaret Thatcher years. Believe me it was grim.
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sorry, but some Casino Royale Bond pics are up on usatoday.com. For all those Bond haters, I think it looks pretty fucking cool. Not too over the top cheesy, but could be a seriously good Bond movie. A little early, but me like. Really hot chicks too. Bond style.
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Voxmortis, that's a pompous and ridiculous thing to write. Many but not all of the fans and frequent visitors to this site are fond of certain highly specific genres that the general population, even the highly cultured ones, don't care about at all. Saying that if you haven't read V for Vendetta then you aren't "cultured" reeks of geek snobbery and makes you look ignorant when you are trying to sound superior. Go retire to your library with a glass of port. Put on your velvet robe and reading glasses, and then sit in your chair by the fireplace to pore over your dog-eared copy of "Watchmen" as Chopin plays in the background.
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says AICN.....
I'm surprised actually. My post yesterday is now gone. Totally erased from Talk Back. It's ok to tell someone to 'fuck off or shove a lamp up your ass', but please don't point out that we (AICN) obviously take kickbacks to rate a movie released almost in the second quarter of 2006 as the best movie of 2005. So whens the last time you had your prostate checked by a tongue? -
It fit the tone of the story for me.
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i liked it
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The book I have has copyrights back to 1982. Adobe introduced it's art software, "Illustrator" as Illustrator 88. What do you mean by modern standards... something enhanced and filled in by a computer?
Give me the hand drawn stuff any day. Not cause it's better or worse than digital, but because it is an honest medium whose flaws cannot be hidden easily with a cut n paste and the contact of paper to pen is a tactile expression, not a "virtual" one. I love this book.
And, btw, I saw "Why We Fight" last night, and thought this is the movie that V would have used to edify us all. One of the last lines to answer the title question, seems to be the very answer V was hoping to evoke in people (in the movie, at least).
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" Unfortunately BBC Two video content is only available to users within the UK. We're sorry for any disappointment.
For many programmes , there are broadcast rights restrictions, which do not allow us to show BBC Two programmes and content to people outside the UK. In addition, broadband content is expensive for the BBC to stream, so we have to give priority to people within the UK, who ultimately bear the cost of us doing this through their licence fee.
Some BBC programmes are available via our international services (see www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels) or through agreements with commercial broadcasters overseas.
We are looking into the possibility of offering a subscription service for overseas users, although this is not likely to be available in the immediate future. " This is the message one gets if he has internet access in Greece. -- So, Noisybast's link doesn't work. And by all means linking to bbc2 dot com doesn't help a lot. Any help for getting the Alan Moore video would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has any links to audio, or even better VIDEO files of Alan speaking, that would be great also. *** PS David Lloyd's art rocks, IMO , it's the coloring that slightly diminishes it. Nevertheless the said dated coloring somehow contributes to the atmosphere and feel of this masterpiece. -
Anywho, St. Patty's Day can't get here fast enough...
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...no one picked up on the fact that aragorn5460 called paper mache, "paper machete". That's some funny shit.
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Lots of Alan Moore videos on YouTube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8xRfzo9rIE&search=alan%20moore
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