March 5, 2006, 6:27 a.m. CST
And even more Gracias for the Midnight Run love, that needs to be name-checked more often.
March 5, 2006, 6:28 a.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
Thank Vaughn for it, too, man. I love the film, but he's the one who mentioned it so emphatically in terms of what he's trying to do. At least he's got taste, right?
March 5, 2006, 6:28 a.m. CST
I meant write-up. Silly seppuku.
March 5, 2006, 6:41 a.m. CST
and wouldn't understand anyone who did. The Bugs Bunny analogy works with me, definitely. The guy seems to have as much energy as talent, so if he doesn't make it big then I'll be shocked. I'm also very, very pleased at the Claire Danes casting. I love that gal, especially in the Thai prison flick. The best news to me is that Gaiman's going to be involved in the production, because this means that we're one step closer to seeing a screen version of Good Omens (one step out of a thousand that is). So...good news all around then.
March 5, 2006, 6:41 a.m. CST
Wish that I had read her dystopian themepark novel Dreamworld now. And there's a Dreamworld II book being released this year? I may have to pick both of them up.
March 5, 2006, 6:48 a.m. CST
Neil Gaiman man, sign me up!
March 5, 2006, 6:56 a.m. CST
Oh, and I just simultaneously had an orgasm and exploded from this news. Stardust is a great work of fiction, although I have to admit the leads are a bit older than I expected. I saw them as mid teens, like possibly Emma Watson playing Yvaine. But this sounds beyond great. There were a few changes there that didn't sound like the book, but I suppose that required sometimes. This is now one of my most anticipated upcoming films.
March 5, 2006, 7:20 a.m. CST
If that cunt could die any time soon, the world would be a better place. Also, there's no "bit of a wink to it". It isn't some knowing, post-modern silly-bollocks. If that's what Vaughn has written, then he's a shit.
March 5, 2006, 7:49 a.m. CST
Nice to see there are folks like you keeping up the reputation that us Brits are well-spoken, cultured dilettantes...
March 5, 2006, 7:51 a.m. CST
The guy clearly knows one of the camera from the other but Layer Cake was a stale turd, a rip-off of a rip-off of a rip-off. Maybe the Americans like this shit because it's a bit of a novelty, but Layer Cake was unwatchable tosh without a single original bone in its flabby pus-ridden body. Best of luck to the guy though, as long as he stops with the cheeky chappy gangsters.
March 5, 2006, 8:23 a.m. CST
... Jane Goldman getting her tits out in the film - they are MASSIVE!! (strike two for all of us unrefined brits here)
March 5, 2006, 8:28 a.m. CST
to see if her hair's that bright red anywhere other than her head, if you know what I mean.
March 5, 2006, 9:33 a.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
... I've got script reviews coming for CASINO ROYALE and ALIEN VS PREDATOR 2 and RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR NOT! and DEJA VU and a few other things, but unfortunately, there are only so many hours in a day. I'll do my best to catch up, man.
March 5, 2006, 9:34 a.m. CST
Really want to hear what you have to say about that one.
March 5, 2006, 9:41 a.m. CST
I am all those things and more - I'm merely dispensing the truth, and cannot help it if the truth is ugly. Ugly like Vincent Jones's awful, murder-worthy face.
March 5, 2006, 9:47 a.m. CST
his mug just screams, "batter me in with a golf club". Personally I'm willing to give Vaughn the benefit of the doubt, I know he's new and all, but like martinsmith said, the guy clearly knows his way around a camera. If he manages to leap from Layer Cake to Stardust in one movie, and make it a success, well the whole damn market will be ripped right open for him.
March 5, 2006, 10:10 a.m. CST
But Mori Kofi had a point, you seem to be constantly privy to news that you're unable to share with us because we all know the real Drew. So, I think it's time you invent a new fictional reviewer to bring to AICN...call him Dr. Watson or something. And after we've all gotten to know him, you can kill off Moriarty (and thus Drew McWeeny) altogether. This will leave you free to feed us any news that enters the building. The fact that Dr. Watson writes just like you can be sorted out by giving him a phony Australian accent- meaning just add a few That's a real whoppers and G'days, and nobody will ever know... You can at least think about it anyways ;^).
March 5, 2006, 10:56 a.m. CST
Before the novelization, there was a comic of this story, more limited than the book, and I only loosely describe the book as a novelization, but obviouslly there are frames of storyboards laid down, if you choose to see them that way, which I didn't hear mention of at all in the write up. So, this new concept art, is it done by Charles Vess or someone new? There's no comparison to the comic at all, which is pretty damn beautiful in it's own right. I'm super excited to see this filmed, but why no energy to compare this film to the true source material? Unless Gaiman wanted to start over, due to the script, etc.. Is Charles Vess involved at all? Also, any idea on the length of the script/estimated finished product? Seems lots of stuff will take a snip, especially if the script was adapted from the novel and not the comic.
March 5, 2006, 11:16 a.m. CST
and it seems that someone likes to drink it straight from the tap.
March 5, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST
Layer Cake was overrated.
March 5, 2006, 1:07 p.m. CST
Hey Mori- When you get a moment (yes, I'm joking), a write up of that Best Scripts of 2005 email sounds interesting. If you're too busy, I'll take a crack at it for ya...
March 5, 2006, 2:28 p.m. CST
by John Maddening
STARDUST wasn't really a comic originally, it was an illustrated story. Neil says the novel is "for people who aren't mature enough to handle books with pictures."
March 5, 2006, 2:49 p.m. CST
indeed does have massive tits but I think it's fair to say collars and cuffs don't match. Claire Danes in the buff though would be a thing to behold. By the way the only Stardust I've ever heard of is Alvin. This film sounds cack and whats the odds on Vaughn leaving it mid-way through??? probably doesn't like spending time away from boning Schiffer, which you can't really blame him for.
March 5, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST
is pretty damn good for sure...and besides all the script rev's you have to do mori...you still have to get that monday dvd column out.
March 5, 2006, 4:05 p.m. CST
Really, really eager to see all of them. Even (maybe especially) AVP2, though that's more out of morbid curiosity.
March 5, 2006, 4:06 p.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
I removed your insanely long and very, very off-topic posts. Please do not repost them. They have nothing to do with what's being discussed. Go to the Phantom Zone if you want to start that conversation.
March 5, 2006, 4:15 p.m. CST
...and hypocritical and paranoid, of course. But so what? Why should I care? I *do* care about Stardust, and WOOOHOOO!!! This sounds AWESOME! Fucking DE NIRO? FUCK! Molina? HELL YEAH! Gaiman is IN ON IT? Holy SHIT! This *almost* makes up for The Golden Compass taking forever to film... Still, emeraldboy - whatever, man. Go put up your own site - link to it from here, if you've really got a hard-on for AICN, but do it so that the rest of the world can ignore it.
March 5, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST
Martinsmith up there has a bit of a point - whatever you and I thought of Layer Cake, tough gangsters aren't fallen stars. It's a different sensibility. But fuck it - I'm gonna hope for the best on this one. Gaiman's IN ON IT!
March 5, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST
March 5, 2006, 5:35 p.m. CST
...which was a 4 part prestige comic even before it was a graphic novel, with painted art by Charles Vess that is absolutely wonderful (OK, sure, you can call it "illustrated if you want" due to the lack of word bubbles - but the graphic novel is MUCH shorter than the straight prose novel). The work also deals with characters and places that Gaiman has used through-out his other works (not the least of which is the land of Faerie). If they do production and set design that even slightly resembles the look created in the graphic novel I will be most pleased indeed. And while I think Claire is actually a good choice as far as casting goes - fucking with Gaiman's story was NOT necessary and it's really getting quite old. Why won't somebody just make something the way he's written it. It's maddening.
March 5, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST
I would have been interested to see what Vaughn's X3 woulda been like. The production designer in the press junket said that at one point the movie was too dark. I guess that's when Vaughn was on it, saying things like it'll be rememered like UNFORGIVEN. It would have been neat to see it.
March 5, 2006, 6:13 p.m. CST
...Neil Gaiman was going to direct "Death: The High Cost of Living"? Yeah, whatever happened to that?
March 5, 2006, 6:57 p.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
... he's still going to. In fact, Neil was cackling about how, by sitting in on the STARDUST screen tests, he was sort of getting a chance to see all the candidates for Death work, too.
March 5, 2006, 7:43 p.m. CST
STARDUST was definitely very good, though I'd give my left hand to see a well-done treatment of AMERICAN GODS. Good to hear that DEATH is moving ahead, too! By the way, you really should see MERCHANT OF VENICE, M. I thought it was a great film.
March 6, 2006, 3:43 a.m. CST
Or at least, he came in and interviewed for the director's chair. Supposedly he scared the crap out of the suits at Warners when he said that this was to be "the Dirty Dozen of Harry Potter movies" or something like that. Kind of understandable, I guess, although that would have been interesting to see.
March 6, 2006, 3:46 a.m. CST
Just wanted to add a note - these are two different versions of the same name. I believe Tristram is the Cornish version, if I'm not mistaken. I remember because it was the nickname of one of my Cornish ancestors, who used to be a travelling minstrel in the Elizabethan era. He was the son of one of the leaders of Prayer Book Rebellion in Cornwall in...oh, never mind.
March 6, 2006, 5:58 a.m. CST
Is how it's spelling in the book.
March 6, 2006, 7:19 a.m. CST
by Bicycle Thief
I cannot believe how many films are being realised by these comic gods. Bring on a Sandman movie I say.
March 6, 2006, 11:52 a.m. CST
I have to wonder if this movie will succeed at transferring to the screen any of the, for lack of a better word, wistfulness, of the original Stardust text. There's definitely an amazing story there, but the novel succeeds at more than just that: it also has an almost completely unique, poignant, wistful, beautiful, happy and sad tone to it, and that's where the real magic and success of the novel lies. I have a hard time believing hollywood will be willing (even if able) to transfer anything that nuanced onto a modern screen. I guess I'll see.
March 6, 2006, 1:15 p.m. CST
I'm reading "Anansi Boys" currently, and I'm wondering why Gaiman likes to write about guys escaping from uptight/controlling fiancees/girlfriends and falling for the pixie-looking girlfriends?
March 6, 2006, 2:23 p.m. CST
if he's going the independent route - who's doing the distributing/releasing? Or is it one of those indies-within-a-studio things?
March 6, 2006, 6:32 p.m. CST
'Cause it's an archetype as old as time... Or at least as old as Romanticism, I think... Although the genders used to be reversed.
March 6, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST
To quote Gaiman himself, from his Guardian Unlimited article: "I confess that I am always relieved when another year passes without anybody making a bad film based on Sandman, the comic on which most of my reputation within the medium rests." --- Of course I'd like to see it, but he's right. The probability of suckage is high. (For the record, someone should give it to Kaufman to adapt and Gondry to direct, using Linklater's rotoscope process. I have _no_ idea about the cast.)
March 6, 2006, 9:01 p.m. CST
by Everett Robert
wrote a novel a couple of years ago about all the Gods/Goddess of mythology being real and coming to America with the immigrants. I always thought that would make an interesting movie...does anyone know what I'm talking about
March 7, 2006, 12:12 a.m. CST
I didn't realize there was a "list" that was going around. Anyone know what other scripts made it onto this list of top scripts of '05?
March 7, 2006, 1:25 a.m. CST
March 7, 2006, 4:42 a.m. CST
He has no track record - Layer Cake gives is a decent job but gives no indication of the level of imagination needed for something of Gaiman's - and after Neverwhere I am sick of inadequate hack jobs on Gaiman's work. And Goldman's book is OK - but her writing is decidedly average. It didn't do that well at the time so surprised to see there is going to be a sequel. Great if this works out - but hardly reassuring so far.
March 7, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST
Based on this article I'm going right out to buy me a copy. Fantastic casting on acting chops along, especially Mark Strong who was so good in The Long Firm. Really intrigued by the falling star concept and I never thought an actual actress would be starring in the role. Is it a VO or does the star actually take female form?
March 7, 2006, 10:48 a.m. CST
That was called American Gods. Liked it for the most part, and loved the concept.
March 7, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST
I may not have put FIRSTIES!!! in the headline, but I'm still a major asshole.
March 7, 2006, 4:59 p.m. CST
by Darth Busey
They are making an Aliens vs. Predator 2?!?!?!? Unless John McTiernan or Jim Cameron is involved...f-that.
March 7, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST
...Anerican Gods. Or at least I think it was named that title. That was a very good novel, might give it another read. As for Vaughn hmmm I am not convinced. I thought Layer Cake was good (less of a mockery of those chivalric codes of London...lol) yet it felt meandering at times. It definately did not deserve the praise it got IMO. Want a good gangster film? Go watch Goodfellas or Angels with Dirty Faces.
March 7, 2006, 8:55 p.m. CST
They didn't hack up Neverwhere as you say. It was conceived to be and written to be a TV series first. The Novel was written after, so he could fix things he didn't like about the series. I thought it was a damn good show considering the limitations of being a BBC production. Stardust has never been a comic or a graphic novel. As originally published as "Neil Gaiman and Charles Vess' Stardust" it was an illustrated novel published in four parts in prestige format. Just because its main means of initial distribution were comic shops does not make it automatically a comic or graphic novel. Ivory
March 8, 2006, 11:21 a.m. CST
by Bicycle Thief
I agree with you Killah_Mate, but it seems Gaiman is getting more involved with movies. Warner Bros could bring him onboard to write the script. Warner Bros seem to treating their properties with more respect these days.
March 8, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST
...could be made brilliantly if somebody, as mentioned above, would go a slightly smaller more independent route with them and allow each story arch to be it's own film. Their could even be a film(s) that were a collection of the short stories. The problem, my opinion of course, is that with the success of LOTR and HP the studios are looking for a new mega-billions franchise and Sandman just isn't it. But could you imagine Season of Mysts and A Game of You as films? Wooooohoooo!
March 8, 2006, 10:08 p.m. CST
Any work on Gaiman's book Coraline? Its listed on IMDB but I dont know if it has seen and type of development. I believe it lists Henry Selick as director whom I think is a great choice to bring the book to the big screen.
March 9, 2006, 12:11 a.m. CST
Work has begun on Coraline which is indeed being written and directed by Selick. It will be a mix of live action, stop motion, and CGI and is being produced by the former Will Vinton Studios (whose new name escapes me). Easily one of my fave Gaiman books. With Selick at the helm it should prove to be a wonderful film. Ivory
March 9, 2006, 9:11 a.m. CST
I directed one film and have then proceeded to run away from every other opportunity offered to me! Is it because I'm picky or because I can't handle it in the world of directing? I'll let you decide! But fear not... my ONE film has made me the talk of AIC and apparently Hollywood. Is it because I have genuine promise or because they're all idiots? I'll let you decide! Anyway, I'm off to slip one to Claudia so see you later!
March 9, 2006, 8:27 p.m. CST
by Everett Robert
that's right American Gods, I remember now...great concept, and I live in Kansas so I have a soft spot for the act that takes place there, but I wans't entirly happy with the ending, not sure exactly why but wasn't happy with it, anyways, don't know if you'll catch this or not but thanks