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Ok, We Know X3 is utterly doomed, wanna see how bad it can get?
Hey folks, Harry here... before I get started. I need to show you something...
Ok. This is what happens when an idiotic rushed schedule happens to a film. But see, it actually gets worse. Ratner is kinda afloat on his own here. He doesn't have the money or the time to finish and fix the things HE would want to fix... never mind just the horrible shit that just seems to be busting from the seams on this thing.
Beyond the terrible reports of the screenplay, there's dreadful costume design... look at that shot above! What the fuck is that? I'm just mortified by this stuff. And there's more. You go over to Dark Horizons and check it all out. They've got a ton of new pics... like Wolverine and Phoenix all making out on a stainless steel table... to absolutely dreadful looking Morlocks... to a really bad looking shot of Mystique... and how the fuck do you do that? Even BEAST which I'm warming to in a way, looks terribly wrong in a pinstripe suit in a board meeting. I'm hoping to God I'm wrong on this film, but the word I'm hearing is that the film isn't getting the time or the money it needs... and we've been hearing from the beginning, that the insane pushing to get this film out before SUPERMAN RETURNS... well that it was resulting in less than ideal circumstances. I hope to God Ratner manages to pull this sucker off. I don't mind if he makes a bad Rush Hour film or a some caper flick. Ultimately, I'm not pre-invested in the material. But this is the third X-Men film on a series, that while by no means absolutely perfect... it certainly got us a Raimi SPIDER-MAN series kicking strong... if nothing else.
I saw ULTIMATE AVENGERS tonight... and here's the thing. The story is pretty fun, hell, when Hulk shows up... you'd kill to see that Live Action. My problem is that it is grotesquely underfinanced. The animation is sloppy and a grade better than some superhero animation, but not much. Looking at this, I just can't help but wonder what a no holds barred CG animated, in partnership with SQUARE, ULTIMATES would look like. I'm telling you, it'd knock everybody's dick in the dirt. It's worth getting cuz it is fun, but it's the least effort put forward. It's almost like they're ashamed to really invest in this. I could gripe for hours about the changes they made in classic characters, but ultimately... I gave them that. In fact, I had fun with that... sort of a "What If" scenario. I just can't really understand cheapskating out to make sub-Television quality animation... with moments that shine above that. It's just a shame. Hopefully when Marvel starts producing their own films, Avi and Kevin Fiege will roll the dice on a "HOLY SHIT" animated Marvel Epic. Well, I can dream.
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My hopes for this movie continue to sink. Nothing I've seen so far has given me any hope that this won't suck. This is gonna be "Street Fighter" for 2006; I just hope nobody in the cast dies after it's released, with their role in this turkey-to-be as their last. At least we can hold out some hope for the Wolverine movie.
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Is that top picture supposed to be Colossus? What, was he dipped in crude oil? The spirit of the Third Cursed Film may strike again (see also: Superman 3, Batman Forever...never saw Blade Trinity)
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so somethings defintely up or wrong
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Uh-oh. Oh well, X2 and X-Men were great films at least.
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Did anyone really think Arad and all those pricks gave a shit about all these properties? Forget everything else the moment they gave Colossus eyes like he was just wearing a mask the film jumped the shark. Total cock merchantry.
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It's doomed I tell you, doomed.
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That woudl totally rock. The Incredibles is the best superhero film yet and it was CG. I wish they would make a CG X-Men or Spider-Man film and SQUARE would be great for it.
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On actor's walking around Islands of Adventure in Orlando FL than what I'm seeing in those pictures. Where did they get that mask from, the k-mart halloween department. Oh god , that muscle suit... oh sweet god. Like I said, I've seen better at theme parks.
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...and let Singer come and finish what he started - I assume that he was still willing to do so? I don't really want X3 to suck ass - the trailer was promising but a few cool FX shots doesn't make a good film...if the stink is really that bad, then it's a damn shame.
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He's poorly lit and goofily posed, but I think he'll look better in the film. That Juggernaut pic on the other hand is laughable, as is the idea of dressing up all his underlings like they're going to a neighborhood S&M party.
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It won't look as bad as that on screen. I pray this movie is actually not bad as it will show Harry again as someone who can't let go of something. All the venom he spewed about FF after Peyton Reed left and the script he wanted didn't get followed, continuing upon release of the film, which wasn't that bad. It is the same here, with the loss of Singer, he got excited about Vaughn and now with them off he has gone into one again, despite having concerns about the date before Ratner he never said it would lead to a shitty movie.
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Feb 10, 2006 4:31:09 AM CST
The pic of Jugs and his mates is actually quite funny..
by dr_buggerlugs
...they look like lost extras from the Van Damme classic Cyborg.
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If this film doesn't suck, I'll be shit staind surprised. There was no way that the TOOL in charge of FOX was going to waste this chance to skull fuck this movie.
And Ratner is his sacrificial lamb.
I pray to god that Ratner has enough strength and fortitude to pull this one off, cos if he doesn't....well how long exactly did it take Joel Schumacher to bounce back???? I am not an X-men comic book fan, but I love the movies. So please everybody say your 'Our Fathers' your morning 'Salaah' and your all the 'Ohms' you can muster cause this movie is going right down to the wire.
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Woot! My first First! Unless gloating has made me miss it! This movies gonna SUCK!! Let's all go and see it anyways!!
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Dammit!! One day...
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Giving Colossus eyes is like...well it's stupid, anyway. Missing the point entirely. And as for that muscle suit, I've seen inflatable ones that look better. At least they look funny.
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Is Corey Feldman in this? Cause that might actually up it a notch.
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But hey, this instalment of X-Men looks completely comic book. Full to the seams with characters and too much plot and over the top. For my money, it could actually be fantastic entertainment - and I would rather see one of these comic book adaptations capture the material a la Punisher than ruin it Fantastic Four style. I'll be there to watch this; I love me a good Hollywood pile-up!
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...they want their sci-fi villains back.
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Ouuuuchhhh.
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...because apparently, it would make me all closed-minded about this. Call me crazy, but I still think the X3 trailer looked pretty good. At the very least, it's promising. And if there are a couple of kooky photos of the the thing circulating, all taken much out of context, I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about them. Hell, before T3 came out, you couldn't convince me it would be any good no matter what you said or showed me. To this day, I still like the flick. And I'm a HUGE Cameron fan, so I held a lot for it to live up to. And I loved the first 2 X-Men movies, so I've got high hopes for this one as well (even more than Superman, whose last series of movies I grew up watching.) Yeah, I'd have loved nothing more than if Singer and the writers stayed with the project, or if Fox had waited for them to be available, and the choice of Brett Ratner certainly doesn't make me howl with delight, but hell, I'm not gonna sit here like some people... who run this website... with long red hair... named Harry... and automatically condemn this thing before anyone's seen it. And yes, if this movie DOES turn out to be "teh suck," I'll eat my hat (trust me, if they let me down, I'll bitch about it, too) but I won't do it until I've seen what I should be bitching about. Is that so unreasonable?
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I knew the second I saw Juggernaut's "costume" this wasn't getting the time and money it deserved. Oh well. With SPIDER-MAN sounding over-crowded now, too (Black Cat, Hobgoblin, Venom, Sandman and already established unused baddies like Lizard and JJ's son), can ANYTHING beat the Super-Hero Second Sequel Curse?
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I bet thats how he looked during the production of X2, and his eyes were CG'd later. Juggernaut??? Wow. Demosthenes2's joke hit the nail on the head. I hope this movie is at least as good as X1, cause I enjoyed the first two installments (especially the sequel). Damn Singer for wanting to do Superf@g, and damn Fox for not wanting to keep the production at a steady pace!
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Looks like an amateur scoop from a guy who snuck on the set and caught the cast walking to the set (or to their trailers). I looked bad when Singer left, even worse when Ratner came aboard, terrible when the script got reviewed, slightly better when the trailer hit (as teasers go, that one rocked), and now this... "The earth is definately doomed..."
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there's a poster and a release date before they have shot a single frame of film.
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Is the hair-do if the chick on the far right supposed to be an homage to Superman? Maybe they'll fix that in post-production too. Along with all of the script problems. The Brotherhood looks like the nihlists from Lewboski. I bet they threaten to cut off Beast's johnson.
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I hope to christ they don't screw this up. Very disappointed in how Juggers looks. He's supposed to be a huge powerhouse that can lift 100 tons plus and they've made him out to be some rubber clad wrestler!!! and how come in every fcuking shot he has his helmet off?!? wtf is up with that?!? it's supposed to protect him from psionic attack isn't it?!?
Avi Arad should be bitch slapped for this. All he sees is $$$ and knows fans will go to see this regardless if it's a steamy pile!
Oh and how come on one of those Dark Horizon stills, Rogue is touching Colossus' arm with her head?!? Wouldn't that be sucking his mutie powers?!? Seems like they don't give a flying fuck about continuity or being faithful to the years of history behind these characters. -
Both are OFFICIAL RELEASED pics from the movie.
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i love that pic of juggy and his buds walking through the neighborhood. ha. brings to mind certain religious groups that go door to door early in the morning. WHEN IM TRYING TO SLEEP DAMMIT.
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Meanwhile, Juggernaut growls at passersby, "What's in YOUR wallet?" as he and three teens head to an audition fo a Capital One ad.
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which is a fucking boring attitude to take. X3 may indeed suck but at least i'm not gonna prejudge the thing based on a couple of mediocre publicity stills.
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Am I the only one who think Juggernaut looks like the toy thing from Small Soldiers? My hopes for this film have just dropped another huge notch.....
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The trailer didn't disappoint me at all. I thought it looked fun and almost epic. The Juggernaut isn't too bad...I would've loved to see a gigantic cg juggernaut! The irony of course is that because they've gone the practical effects route people will complain, had they gone CG people would've complained. Beast's look doesn't excite me, but my brother likes it. Now we're both longtime X-Men readers and we could easily rip apart X-Men and X2 but that'd be counter-productive. Much like Juggernaut being practical we understand the need for a film to have different choices. It's a different medium. It's costs a lot to make etc. etc. Also remember Ratner came on very late in the pre-production phase, most of the ground work must've already been laid by Vaughn so I'm sure you can attribute costume design (Juggernaut/Beast) to him and his team. But we'd rather just strike out at Ratner 'cause Vaughn is cool eh? And remember Singer's casting isn't fantastic either. Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane? Halle Berry as Storm? Dougray Scott as 1st choice Wolverine? What I have learnt from trailers (and very recently Munich) is that the trailer may be awesome but the movie might stink to high heaven. You can never judge a movie until you've seen it. On a side note...Munich was terrible by the way IMO, wow never thought I'd say that.
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The shot of colossus, looks like every other bad production shot I've ever seen from a movie. As Lightstormer said, T3 looked shit from production stills (Hell I was sickened by the shot of Arnie with the coffin on his shoulder) But it might look great in motion.
As to the costumes, ITs not like the first two x-men movies stuck to the original designs, and I still know guys who bitch that "they wanted to see Wolverine in a yellow suit". I see nothing wrong with it, and the perpetual naysaying and doom-mongering comes across as nothing but sour grapes. Hell next thing someone will be whining that they should have taken the Pheonix story into space like in the comic books. -
I prefer the smaller than comic, real representations of these superheros. I always hated the fact that the Juggernaut looked Hulk sized. He'd have an impossible life. How do you shower or crap? WHere do you buy milk and shoes? I like the fact that these are for the most part real looking people with these powers. Only "creatures" such as the Hulk, or Beast, should be altered. I think it's going to be a fun movie. You people all suck.
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Has that one been done yet?,sorry if it has,in fact sorry anyway.Bane wants his torso back http://tinyurl.com/btgbk(don't do roids peepz).Does this mean Frank Langella is going to rent his Skelotor mask to Nic(o flaming weave)Cage.I'll watch X men 3 eventually(DVD).If there is laughter to had I hope I'm laughing with it rather than at it,though to be honest with J.Grey dying(marvel style)in the last one I hoped they would be going into space but there you go.When is Fantastic Four 2 coming out then??.I found FF1 inoffensive,they should leave Doom in the crate forever though,He wasn't even the best villian in the movie.I have to say that anybodys wife who would walk through NYC,through carnage and police cordons to throw your wedding ring in your face,well thats a super villian believe.Ben Grimms cold bitch wife eh,do you think the scriptwriter based that on anybody he knew? :).And give Human Torch more to do He's a funny actor maybe team him up with.....http://tinyurl.com/cg39f.Is Spiderman 3 going to come with some wisecracks this time for Gods sake??(what a misery guts,the best wisecrack in 2 was "if your promises were crackers my daughter would be fat" from his landlord) and dammit I hope someone shows the Daredevil Directors cut on telly one day as I don't have the heart to pay for it not even in a 3 for
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I've NEVER been able to view DH's great "stills" collection...its always taken me to a wanky page that tells me stuff I already know without ONE pic in sight! Am I doing something wrong.....? ;)
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sorry man :)
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with this movie so Harry will look like an idiot after all of this Ratner-bashing. Honestly, what is the reason behind this smear campaign? Sure, Ratner isn't exactly the premier director in hollywood, but he's not a hack, and he's made some entertaining films. This site seems to be putting a lot of effort into trying to tank this movie long before it even comes out. For chrissakes, these are just still photos!
We get it already. You don't like Brett Ratner. You only like directors that invite you to sets and give you kickbacks for quotable film reviews. -
I lafft at the funny.
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cause he was comic book perfect in the first film
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you're taking a shit all over the movie even before you see it. what has Ratner done to deserve this shit and exactly what movie did he make that was so bad that you guys think he's such a hack filmmaker. give him a fucking chance please
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Do I win a fiver?
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and looks ridiculous. oh well, good while it lasted.
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Feb 10, 2006 6:20:28 AM CST
With Singer gone, they should do X-MEN like the comics
by darth bono jr.
...complete with the stupid costumes and soap opera drama. I mean, these are COMIC BOOKS for a reason...not great literature. Superheroes are inherently stupid. And the movies need to reflect that fact. All superhero comic books are arch and melodramatic. That's the type of world they need to be set in.
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The Actor was banned from all movies ever after adverse audience reactions to his hairy man-boobies on Troy.
I also thought Red Dragon was good, I also point out that I make no comparisons to Manhunter, I ttok it as part of a flawed series of films that it fits into perfectly. -
It will be another nail in Ratner's career coffin.
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This movie looks like the worst piece of shit ever. I thought FF got that honor, but now I'm sensing a new champion. I can't believe how awful this film looks.
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they fucked this up from the beginning - they all look alike now and thats a major mistake - singer should have given everyone individual costumes - as for juggernaut and his group they look like something out of mad mad beyond thunderdome - master blaster meets Bane - not a good combo for juggernaut
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For the sake of preventing the inevitable fanboy flamewar that most talkbacks precipitate. Care to elaborate on WHY you think so?
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I hate it when people decide that a film sucks before seeing a single frame. I thought the original photos from X-Men looked crappy and that film ended up being pretty damn good. Harry, you've been agaist this film from the beginning and I'm guessing that you could already write your review if it because it's unlikely to change, right? I love the X-Men films (much, MUCH better than the Spidy films), and I can't wait for this.
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y'all
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This movie is not gonna be terrible
I mean, no one really knows anything about it, and it is one of those movies that, right now, is trendy to not like.
PLUS no question, everyone is falling all over themselves wanting to LOVE superman, and, well, that flick has a completely inexperienced actor carrying it.
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these were being circulated all yesterday, including over on the Zone. you are really losing it too with this childlike anti-Ratner thing you have going. you make excuses for all sorts of crappy movies with crappy effects, just because they "touch some personal soft spot" for you, gush over some lame sadistic torture flick like Hostel, then turn around and rip a movie apart 3 months before it is even released. you call yourself a REAL movie buff. bullshit. you're no better than any schmuck off the street with all your personal prejudices and hang ups. lets see how the effects look in John Carter of Mars, if it doesn't get "chucked on the woodpile" again, that is. have you noticed that comingsoon.net is kicking your ass when it comes to reporting scoops and movies news? the only thing that brings this site traffic is the tb's, which you like to shit on, and the Zone, which you don't even bother to make an appearance in after that big lovey dovey speech you gave about it back when the doors opened for the general public. you're losing it Harry, and maybe you know it, but don't take it out on Ratner, its not his fault.
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The shot of Colossus.... could be just a test or mid morph that makes it look bad.... the other shot.... so what the bad guys look like NORMAL badguys in REAL clothes with tatoos ( with the exception of Juggers ) so what....
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I found the stills on Dark Horizons by adding /2006/x3/xmen24.php to the web address. Instead of 24, you can plug in any number from 1 to 29. I like the beast pics. And as an X-fan who came in with the whole "outback" thing, I don't mind Prof and Cyke dying. The Prof is a father figure and at some point the kids need to grow up. A whole "mutant on the run" would be a possible direction to take in sequels.
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I will be seeing this in the cinemas when comes out and will make up my own mind. The bias against comics books on this site is becoming too obvious. I have an idea for Harry. Lets see you write and diret a film?
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. . . and then I had to answer the phone here at work, while trying to compose myself. Now I'm going to get canned.
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Are understandable, We all have them. I've gotten precious over silly things done in adaptations that were unnecessary and seemed (to me) to be potentially damaging to the overal story.
Harry likes his comics and his old films (perhaps more vehemently than some of us) but he is allowed that. My only complaint is heading up a topic with a title like that and then it only containing two mediocre pictures and a semi-rant that doesn't really have a point other than venting his spleen on a topic we AINT FORGOTTEN. -
We got 2 good x-men films, treat this film like Superman 3 and 4............It doesn't exist.
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How anyone could expect ANYTHING from a film directed by Brett Ratner is beyond me. He is the very definition of a Hollywood hack. He has never directed a watchable film. The RUSH HOUR movies suck, RED DRAGON sucks, that Nic Cage Christmas movie SUCKS. Ratner should be chained to a chair and forced to watch his own movies for all eternity. He deserves that kind of torture.
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Thats like all the dickless morons who say that there is no Godfather 3. Idiots that can't accept that sometimes things don't go the way they want it to. You're so scared that the precious world which you hopelessly cleave to in place of a real grip on reality, might not continue according to your fanboy wishes, that you need to deny the existance of the things you hate.
Time to get over it: Cal-El turned bad, Buffy got a sister, Worf married Dax, and Michael Corleone wanted to repent. Guess what. Sometimes life fucks you in the ass, if you want, shut your eyes and sing "oh Suzannah" but you'll still be bleeding come morning. -
Where's Andy Kaufman when you need him?
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I mean WTF just because peter allenecque musical theater lovin brockbacker became a new fanboy fave (after all of the flaming , he's a Canadian bullshit started) Superman has the cgi manipulated downsized package of an unknown in the lead (or just behind you if you like it that way)- well Wolvie has a spinoff after stealing the thunder from a group of established knighted oscar winning crowd - whats to say you wont be his bitch when Supes trimphs over this drivel - And I love the first two movies
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I'm going to bet dollars to yummy donuts your never gonna see that shot of Colossus in the final cut. It's a far off suit. You get your actor in a mock up looking suit that you can shoot far off, the veiwing audience will have no clue. Save the CGI and Money for the close up shots where the real action is.
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I'm sorry but Harry and 90% of all you talkbackers, I'm gonna have to disagree. Yeah, I'm not crazy about Ratner directing the film, and I'm also not setting my hopes high based on the rumblings of the script. But please stop LOOKING for reasons to dislike the film. I don't think the pics look bad at all. Tell how those look like shit, in comparison to the black leather SWAT team wannabe look of the X-Men uniforms. I think it's in sync with everything else. You all are just looking for reasons to hate in my opinion...
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Jumping Jesus man, thats a suit that Cudmores wearing for prinicipal photography. It will be blended and cleaned up in post production.
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I liked RED DRAGON. Maybe it's because I never saaw SILENCE OF THE LAMBS until the day before HANNIBAL was released, and I didn't think either of them were that good. ||||| As for the Juggie & the Morlocks pic, that's what the Morlocks look like! Like tough versions of electro/goth kids! I'll probably stick with a matinee for this one.
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Are the 'suits' seeing the same numbers available to the rest of us?????
www.themovietimes.com
(or something like that type 'the movie times' into your search engine.....then click on top movies in usa)
batman returns
162 mill domestic
282 worldwide
batman forever
184 domestic
350 worldwide
batman begins
205 domestic
371 worldwide
the original Keaton batman
251 domestic
413 worldwide
xmen 1
157 domestic
294 worldwide
xmen 2
214 domestic
379 worldwide
and now the really IMPORTANT figures
spiderman 2
373 domestic
784 worldwide
spiderman 1
403 domestic
806 worldwide
and yes- both batman and xmen by nature have a bit darker tone to themselves BUT the numbers for bat 1 and bat begins are quite clear.....
from what i read- the suits at FOX (who also by nature by now no longer have those jobs anymore)(kind of a dumb idea anyway to try to have a 'suit' job...no job security) were dragging their feet in greenlighting xmen 3 with Singer and so when Warner Bros. offered SUPERMAN to him he naturally jumped at it.
Life is far too short to be nice and wait around for a greenlight
but suddenly, without Singer, FOX rushed this film into production in an effort to BEAT SUPERMAN into the theaters by a whole month. (hey guys- theres THREE and half whole months to summmer....in fact mission impossible 3 is going to beat you ALL into the theaters a full THREE WEEKS AHEAD OF MEMORIAL DAY!!!!! (AND i might add from the trailer visuals and story we have seen- KICK xmen 3's royal ass in the process....)
so when superman comes out...
itll be a one two punch to xmen.
Hell...I will dare say that Pink Panther this week will have a bigger weekend then xmen 3/.....
and if not then itll finish with more money at the end of the day before they both go to DVD
and someone higher up on these posts here mentioned that each of the xmen should have individual costumes.....
i totally agree....
Singer for whatever reason didnt do this for xmen 2 but doing so for this film would have at least made it a much more colorful bad film to look at.
oh well....I'll wait for SUPERMAN RETURNS
and maybe see xmen on DVD
bottom line is....if xmen 3 doesnt perform well...whoever greenlit it and decided to be childish and BEAT SUPERMAN to the punch probably wont be in a position to greenlight even a pink panther 2
(though- it wont matter as another cool franchise will have been screwed. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH)
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Those are two crappy photo's.
Some of the other's on Dark horizon's are quite good (Angel, Beast in a suit). And being rushed doesn't necessarily mean bad film. As I recall the production of the first X-men was rushed and that turned out fine.
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I looked at the first pic and had no idea who it was suppose to be... I read the article, went over to dark horizons and peeped the talkback for a second... THEN realized who that was suppose to be... terrible
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That Colossus is naturally either going to be touched up in post or it's a suit some stunt guy is wearing for a long shot. The guy's obviously posing for the camera. You folks really think there's going to be a shot of Colossus looking at and lurching towards the camera like Boris Karloff in this film? With EYE HOLES in his metal mask? Please... Reminds me of the guy who was complaining about "silver aliens" on the set of AvP. You can say what you want about that flick, but the aliens looked fucking kick ass. Officially released or not, that Colossus shot will NOT be in the film. On a side note, Juggernaut looks the 1996 version of the Quake guy.
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and now that i think of it....
the BOND franchise for better or worse is STILL the longest running and most succesful franchise running.
and while I am here- elsewhere online is a review of the script with lots of spoilers and it sounds as if they will quite succesfully revamp the whole BOND franchise.
It WOULD HAVE been nice however if the sister/brother producer team would have granted an interview somewhere to explain their new moves and MAYBE just waited one more film and done a fifth BOND with Brosnan.
The last film, while not one of his best ones, did however have a phenominal opening sequence in which Bond was quite shaken and stirred.
Brosnan (and we fans) desereved one more gritty go-round seeing as how Brosnan's films single handedly got the franchise back on its feet.
A fifth BOND with Brosnan could have geared us all up for this new guy and the gritty return to Connery type filmmaking it now promises to be.
Oh well....I think I'll see this new BOND at the theater before I see Xmen 3
at least Bond knows enough not to try to BEAT any other franchise into the theaters...
they ARE hands down the best franchise in history.
the xmen suits should take a memo or two.
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and people were bitching about the cgi? what did Harry say? he said that it was nothing to worry about because there were still months to go in post-production and that the effects would be cleaned up. BUT, what does he say when a few stills come out of X3, 3 MONTHS BEFORE the release date, that aren't to his liking? does he talk about how people should wait until they see the movie before judging it? does he remind people that the movie is still in post-production and has months for the fx to be tweaked? no, of course not, because he has some sort of personal grudge against Ratner, and so any sort of consistent critique principle is thrown out the window. just like he didn't say a word about the embarrassingly bad cgi/bluescreen effects of the bronto chase in Kong, due to the fact that Kong was rushed to get it to the theatres by Christmas '05, then turns around and bashes X3 for being rushed. fucking weak and hypocritical is what it is.
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Colossus does looking disappointing. Maybe he is all black and burnt looking because he just got hit by a blast from Phoenix. I thought in the second film they did a nice job when he transformed.
The Beast wearing a suit fits well with the comic character.
The Morlocks are punky/gothic kids I can see that, but why are they walking down Leave It Beaver's Street.
The biggest mistake in this movie is the Juggernaut. Come on a god damn styrofoam body suit. Go hire a fucking bodybuilder, wrestler or UFC guy. It isn't like the Juggernaut character requires acting skill.
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What's got two thumbs and ain't gonna see this fucking piece of shit?
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Hey backwards ass, aren't we talking about Colossus
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I'll see this film, but it's becoming more clear to me that Ratner doesn't get it. He's going too cartoony, cramming as many characters in as possible, and hoping it all hides his lack of understanding of the source material.
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The Colossus shot is obviously un-finished; there's no way that won't be fixed up at least a little in post. And Beast looking out-of-place in a suit is probably kind of the point. But I do sort of hate the costume design for this movie. Not that I know anything about costume design, but Phoenix always wearing red clothes and the "bad guys" all wearing black clothes -- clothes that make them look like S&M enthusiasts at that -- just seems incredibly cheesy.
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Then doesn't Fox and Rothman get what they want anyway? You show up, stay more that 30 minutes so you can't get a refund, and then it doesn't matter if you write on novel on the X-3 release Talkback, they'll have your money, you dumb bitches! There's being prejudiced, and then there's being sensible and judicious. These photos are our earliest opportunity to judge. Prejudging would have been before we saw anything, including last summer's script review.
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Like many so called film geeks, Harry Knowles' "taste" resides firmly in the grip of nostalgia. Check out his review of the BSG miniseries. He takes a shit on the best show on tv cause it isn't anything like the 1970's cheese. Form your own opinion. Harry calling something "shit", frankly, does not mean shit.
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Who else but a fucking suit would've even brought that shit up?
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gotta be.
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The good ones always get cancelled.
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I too am a bit scared about the fate of this film, but nowhere near the level like most on this forum. I'm still going to give it a chance. What I do know for sure is that it will be better than the Spidey movies. Kicking strong? Two of the most overrated films in the last 5 years.
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I can't believe all this crap! "I hope Ratner hits a home run", "You want this movie to fail, don't you Harry". Where the fuck did you people come from? Anyone who doesn't realize that die-hard who love a fantasy fiction adaptation make the box office take. You think the pussy-whipped guy who took his girlfriend to one LOTR film (which the archetypical hot chick thought was childish, more than likely) was the reason they did so well? Nope. Sorry. It was the geeks, in all sizes, shapes and genders. "Mainstream" audiences come along for the ride because they wan to know what they're missing out on, especially in May-July. If guys like myself stay home just the first two weekends, it will cripple this film. And then the rights will revert back to Marvel, we'll get the original 5 recast as 20-somethings, and maybe see an epic, amazing X-film sometime before 2050.
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... the Colossus shot will obviously be cleaned up in post. Angel looks GREAT. Juggy is growing on me, but still looks kinda goofy. And the morlocks (if they are morlocks) look pretty much like they looked in the beginning of the Inferno series. I don't see where this Chicken-Little-The-Sky-Is-Falling reaction is coming from, but to me it seems unwarranted. Am I nervous? Absolutely. Am I ready to throw this into the trashbin? Absolutely NOT. You should NEVER judge an f/x movie based on photos that haven't gone through post-production yet. It's stupid.
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I remember the pummeling I took on these boards a few years back when I dared to suggest that I thought the original Spider-Man was overrated with terrible, badly-animated cartoon fx. At that time I wrote something like, "It will be interesting to see how people feel about this film in a few years once the hype-dust has settled."
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Above Peven comments that when the CGI looked like crap in Kong, Harry told everyone to hold on that it would be cleaned up before release. Peven comments that this is hypocritical of Harry. There's a difference though. PJ _earned_ the trust with his three previous movies. Ratner has _never_ done _anything_ even half as good as what PJ has done, thus, he gets NO credit, no faith, that he can fix this mess before it hits the screen.
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about you and Hostel, Harry. Eli Roth is hot right now because he gets fucked up with Quentin. The original Saw beat it to the punch. I know it's hard to accept, Father Geek, but it wasn't anything special.
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The toy maker only cares about profit not quality!
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I just can't tell you who he really is. Why don't suits ever out themselves on this site. They're all over every major film Talkback. Skybar-lovin' pricks!
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There would be quite the different reaction here if you did that...
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Those pics are fucking horrible. I'm not even blaming Ratner because Prison Break rocks, and I think he's a decent part of that -- but it looks like he's got little to nothing to do with this films script or concept design.
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but as Harry said and as most of you ignored, they're running out of money to do so. And a CGI Square/Marvel flick? If Square follows their pattern, that would take 6 years to make and only last about 80 minutes, with only one good action scene.
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Peter Jackson did circles upon circles around the original Kong. Is Ratner going to outdo Chris Claremont from 1978-88? Nope. But he sure is trying to cram that whole bit of time into two hours.
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...Fox could allocate more funds if they wanted to. It's going to be their biggest release this year. Spending another 20 to make another 100 worldwide is a no-brainer. Remember, the Japanese will eat this shit up. They haven't been reading since 1963.
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If you guys think the imagery is bad... wait till you actually hear the 'spoilers' of the plot.
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Click here
http://tinyurl.com/9xv5a
For movie trailer parodies, including "Brokeback to the Future" and parodies of The Shining and Passion of the Christ.
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...chill out everyone and wait for the movie - although they DO look like a bunch of extras from "Mad Max" on their way to the lunch trailer.
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The dudes who are talking about being fixed in post are right. There wont be eye holes for Peter. And about Rogue's head touching his arm, you do realize half these photos are called production stills? Thats when there's a dude with a camera taking pics on set. That's not necessarily the angle it was filmed from, she may not look like she's touching him later. Or hell, maybe he will still be metal in that shot, which negates the fact that she's touching him, because as every nerd knows, Colossus in metal form is invulnerable to Rogue. My second issue...while there are many supposed gripes to be had with this film, my only one is the casting for Stacy X and Callysto. I mean, look at the pic. I think they were switched accidentally. Callysto is supposed to be this ugly, manly looking broad with an eye patch, and Stacy is supposed to be this hot hooker. Dont you think someone should be switching them around a bit?
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Tina Turner will do the song "We dont need another Zero" and Master Blaster will make an appearance sans Mini Me - the climax of the film features professor X (mistaken for "captain walker") leading a group of children (marooned from an airplane crash) to the promised land via a train chase
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I see nothing wrong with either of those shots. Also, nobody said FIRST? This is a first.
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Let's wait and see. These x-men movies seem to be devoid of colors when it comes to the costumes, everyones blck or something
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there was a lot of bitching and moaning on this site as well. Wait till the movie is released before making judgements about it.
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Yes it really does look that gay. Ratner has yet to make a good film, and it doesn't look like he'll be breaking the trend just yet. The other two X-Men films were suprisingly mediocre given the hype and the budget, so it's not as if he has all that much to live up to but still - get someone decent in. Harry's 100% right, and I trust him before I trust any of you Marvel sycophants.
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so why is Kato Kaelin playing Storm?
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These photos haven't been officially released by Fox. The Colossus pic hasn't even been touched in post production. Can't believe anyone would actually think that's a final product.
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wrote a nice apologist article trying to convince everyone it would all be fixed in post. What is different now with X3? Don't they have post-production?
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..and get a life
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I can just here them now: "well you cant see the actor's face if he is always covers his head with a helmet, so lets just have him carry it around with him all the time" You know, Commic book storylines are not the stuff of scientists but they work for the most part, especially xmen so DONT FUCK WITH WHAT WE KNOW. Jesus, I almost want to say that I hope this bombs so they learn a lesson but they wont. It just keeps going on...
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i agree, Kong was a very good movie, overall, and i enjoyed the hell out of it, DESPITE the totally shitty cgi of the bronto chase. my point is that Harry has a blantantly obvious double standard when it comes to his takes on movies/directors. he doesn't stick by any kind of standard criteria for why a movie is good or poor. its something totally arbitrary, and too many times seems to depend on how he feels about the people who made the film, not the film itself.
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I feel like killing myself now.
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Stop deluding yourselves.
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PJ wasn't going for total realism in Kong. The effects are meant to have a dream like quality to them. Like stop motion effects, to give it a classic look like the original film. Just look at Times Square, how over the top it is. That's done on purpose. If the effects looked too real it would be boring. You want that fantasy look to the effects. Why can't people understand this?
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Glad to see Ricardo Montalban's chestplate from "Wrath of Khan" is being put to good use again.
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yeah, but he's also on record as liking Nemesis, which turned out to be shit. truth is, X3 may be crap or it may be just as good as X2. ratner certainly wouldn't make my top 10 list of names to direct an X-men movie but he did a perfectly decent job with red dragon and i'm not gonna prejudge the entire movie based on a couple of studio stills. because that would be fucking stupid.
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pertaining to a certain story. you get to the website the stories no where in site and you have to dig through the website looking for it. shouldn't it be the top story?, and what's with the gigantic banner?
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SWEET! And thus began the rise of the machines...in an X-men movie.
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I went over to dark Horrizons and looked at these "horrible" pics. You can't really judge anything about them at this point, because you don't know what stage of productions these shots are in or anything. You don't even know if the grabs these pics are from will be in the final film. I didn't think that any of them looked like the feature was doomed. They just looked like normal ass pictures. I think this is just another case of Harry pre-panning a film. He's telling himself it's gonna bomb, so of course in his mind it will. Will it actually? Who knows. The problem with so many critics is that they see too many movies for their own good. They start making judgements on film based on the director or who's a part of it, and stop carring if the film was actually entertaining. Because at the end of the day that's what I want. I want a film to entertain my senses. I wan't it to make me jump, clap, cheer, tug a heart string or two; and if the film I'm watching manages to do that, then it's good. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but I'm not ready to start panning a film over a single image, especially those printed above and on Dark Horizons.
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I know she gets a lot hatred around movie boards but am I the only one who really likes Paquin as Rogue. Hopefully they dont faze her too much out of this movie.
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what, you mean angry fucktards like JaeZion who live in their mom's basement?? i like your ranting little posts saying that 'everyone who says give ratner a chance are fox suits'. yeah, buddy, because i get paid by the talkback, don't you know? maybe X3 will suck or maybe it will be fine. to judge by the trailer it seems okay, but i've seen so-so trailers for movies that turned out great and great trailers for movies that were abominations unto the Lord. truth is, i'll withold judgment on X3 until i see it. but i know the comics and the material and i don't need some little douche like JaeZion telling me what to think.
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...I'm still going to be there opening day. They had my money at the first *snikt*.
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This site was ripping on this production from the beginning, but as soon as production started rolling and images/video poured out onto the 'net, AICN started posting semi-positive (or at least non-objective) reports on it all as if it was going to be good afterall, much to the chagrin of me and my fellow talkbackers. Now we are back to "this sucks" again. Get some consistency, will you? *** And yes, it will suck, suck hard. The only reason there is any coolness to it is because we are seeing the actors/characters from the first two and get all gooey inside and want to believe it'll be great. But Brett Ratner's still directing (hey, you may dislike Bryan Singer, but he's still infinitely better than this guy) and the production was still shoved out the door. Like with Aliens Vs. Predator, just because they shoved your favorite characters onscreen a good movie does not make. End of story.
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I just saw Prison Break. If Xmen has the same look I will be very vocal in the X3 talkback.
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So - what do we have ? A dark photo of somebody. I thought it was an out take of Dr Doom from the Fantastic 4, but let's assume it's Colossus. Too dark to tell. Another is a bunch of actors walking. Walking where ? On to the set ? For their lunch ? Who knows. An out of context shot of costumed people walking really isn't enough to judge the film. You don't like the director's previous work ? Rush Hour didn't push your buttons ? Well shit...maybe you don't like comedy adventure. He did a good job on Red Dragon and After the Sunset - but all I hear is whiney-ass bitching about how the big bad man that directed Rush Hour 1&2 is going to sully the holy X-Men grail by wandering too close to it. So it's not Bryan Singer directing - big boo hoo. Get over it. Nobody pushed Singer, he walked of his own free will to Superman - which in my view, isn't looking too impressive BUT -I wait & see, and I advise all the naysayers here including Harry, to do the same. As I've said many times before, in the final analysis - it is ONLY A MOVIE. Worse things happen every single day.
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And I'm a huge fan of that character. You notice though, they aren't showing him without the suit. Thats because without it, the fur will remind you of "Earth Girls Are Easy"! It reminded me of that flick.
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To quote Chief Wiggum (except he was referring to the Bible): "Patrick Stewart says a lot of things." *** What? Do you think he's going to bad mouth a production he's involved in before it hits theaters?
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Vampires from Blade: Trinity shop there too. Colossus looks more like Doctor Doom than Doctor Doom did in F4. you know what? I just don't have it today. Have a good weekend. I just wasted your time and mine.
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So the "rebel" mutants look like the vampires in 'Blade: Trinity.' Well in that case, they're fine! C'mon. Although I have to admire the cajones you must have to use 'Blade: Trinity' as a positive reference, I still say it's a horrible idea. Why is Phoenix wearing red all the time? Because she's the Phoenix!!! Why does everyone who sides with Magneto wear black and look like an S&M fetishist? Because they're bad guys!!! I'd love to know what the costume designers were thinking when they came up with these get-ups.
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you first
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that that's an actual shot of Colossus from a final cut. I admit I am one of ther people who were pissed off when Ratner signed on. But to believe that he would put that that in final cut would be crazy. Even if he really wanted to, the studio woulndn't let him.
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Honestly, you all amaze me. you really will bitch about anything. "The green Goblin costume is horrible, bio-webs...Spiderman's gonna suck!!!"
"Who the hell is Hugh Jackman?, X-men's gonna suck"
"The S-shield is way too small! Blasphemy!! Superman Returns is Gonna suck!"
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What a Colossus Fuck Up!
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Isn't it obvious that the metal suit of Colossus is only there for the 3d guys to work off of to make the 3d version. What a nightmare it would be to mess with matching the lighting for Colossus with the set lighting in those outside shots if they didn't have a practical Colossus in the shot to go off of. I honestly think that Harry knows this and is lieing to everyone and telling them that it is actually the way Colossus is going to look. HARRY, you're a journalist now, act like it! This was beneath you. I can't believe you would actually flat out lie like this. I am kinda dissapointed in you. I thought you were better than this. You owe an apology for this shit.
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and I'll finish with a really childish FNAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and he wanted me to pass on this exclusive message: "HAHA, HAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHA, HAHA!" Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
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"I don't mind if he makes a bad Rush Hour film or a some caper flick" What the hell? Jesus, just TRY to proof your shit before you publish. Anyhoo, I haven't seen ANYTHING that makes me run around in a mad panic like the rest of you. Uncooked is right... I'm anxious, but not ready to start crying.
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Feb 10, 2006 11:27:24 AM CST
This is going to be shit, SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by chief redcock
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What Fincher was to Alien 3; if it dies, it won't really be his fault since he was grabbed by Fox and shoved into the production at the last minute while the studio was still writing the movie. Personally, I thought Ratner at least did a good job with "Red Dragon," after the unequivocal suckage of "Hannibal," which was allegedly directed with someone with more talent.
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"Who else but a fucking suit would've even brought that shit up?" Wow... I've been posting on AICN for 7 years now... never been called a suit before. Perhaps it's because I can complete a sentence without looking like a social retard. My bad. Thanks for noticing. Although I guess it means my cover's blown now. Gotta get back to signing contracts and greenlighting bad movies, I suppose... see ya.
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...we've never heard from before (or at least, I've never heard of before) are coming out of the woodwork to defend this movie. Plants? Sadly, probably not. My guess is they're being linked here from some comic book movie website and being told to "give Harry Knowles the business!"
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Superman is going to take a big super dump all over this crap. Sad...I liked X-men and loved X2 but this just looks sad.
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Is that Colossus, or Klytus from Flash Gordon?
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It looks mediocre, to be sure, but nothing here screams suck. In fact ,they don't look much worse than the still photos from the set of X-Men 2. Well, the shot of Juggy, Callisto, Stacy-X and random asian mutant #4 looks a little silly.
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but then again, who gives a fuck.
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X2 was pretty good, a big improvement from X-men. And more importantly, set up for the Phoenix story line, the best part of the Xmen story. Now this, which looks like a complete clusterfuck. Marvel is promising to screw up the amazing Hellfire club story to the same extent they blew the Daredevil-Electra-Bullseye story. Damn shame.
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.....at Superherohype.com....quite fruity.
I hate to say it, but X3 is really starting to reek of Batman & Robin faggetry....oh well.
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Feb 10, 2006 12:11:33 PM CST
leevancleef33 - did you even see Brokeback Mountain?
by www.valiens.com
Or are you just another narrow-minded homophobe? The movie was great. (And this is no defense of Harry's taste. Didn't he once write words to the effect of, "Meesa wuv Jar-Jar Binks?"
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Just passing word along.
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Maybe he only silvers them out when he's in full battle mode, but if he's, say, reaching out in freindship to someone else on the battlefield, he'll let his eyes go human. Maybe? And since he seems to be on a dark, fire-lit battlefield of some kind, maybe that's why he's lit all dark and red, maybe for dramatic effect? Perhaps he's just done some real damage, or he's being seen from the perspective of a frightened newbie to his powers, and looks all menacing. You know, like maybe the director is being ARTISTIC. I saw RED DRAGON, by the way, and it was pretty damn good. And a lot of the stills on Dark Horizons look pretty well composed and dramatically lit (though I have a complaint in that it seems to be consistenly underlit ... CGI friendly dimness in all pics) but I don't see what was Harry's complaint about Mystique. The pic where she's leaping in the air with handcuffs looked pretty sweet. Though that one shot with Magneto standing next to Mystique makes Magneto look like he ought to work out his thighs ... he isn't filling out those pants they way he should, they are all wrinkled like his legs have shrunk. I don't like the leather-wearing baddies, I agree about that ... cheap costuming there, but I think the director is worth giving the movie a chance. I still can't believe Harry couldn't find any love for FF4 in his heart. What, only gory splatterfests get a pass from him?
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Am I the only geek over 30 here? The Colossus pic looks like a lift from a storyline back from when I was reading X-Men in the 80s. Pyro and, I think, Avalanche(?), ambushed Colossus: Pyro heated his metal skin white-hot, then the other guy crashed a tanker of liquid nitrogen into him, freezing and cracking Colossus' metal skin. It was a clever attack and a very cool moment (He just got his ass kicked by SCIENCE!!)
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http://www.darkhorizons.com/2006/x3/xmen1.php
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hilarious...oh well. Figure I should chime in on some geeky bitching of thy X-Men. Somewhat enjoyed the trailer, so I'll wait and see what's up..do not like Juggers whole body makeup. Let's see, what more geeky complaints can I rehash...ummm, yeah, if Colossus has a mask, then by god, I will kill everything living. Anybody still see the X-Men arcade game around anymore? The one that was kinda like The Simpsons and TMNT arcade? That used to kick ass! I will be definitely be seeing this movie with all you fellow nerds and it will make the money the studio was out to get, nough said about that. But, I do agree with Harry that this thing is going to be too rushed. That's what is going to seperate Spidey 3 and X-Men 3. Sorry, but the way they are mindfucking us with the third Spidey movie is the best thing they can do. Fuck, we got X-Men 3 pics and all this stupid shit spoiler script reviews right away...I feel it is doomed. I'll say it again, though, prove me wrong Ratner, prove me wrong you silly for hire bastard.
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I've said it for 7 years now to different people that Avi Arad sucks. He's got too much control and now look what's happened.
Oh and regarding the leather....is it weird that Kitty looks so much like a child dressed up for Halloween?
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I mean, I applaud him for the yogurt and mueslix regimen, but it might be that a lifetime of using food as a mood-enhancer has left the Big Guy a little short on positive endorphins. For the sake of a more objective review, Harry, please take a slice or two of lean Turkey meat with you, wrapped in wax paper, to your X-Men screening, to give your body a little treat before seeing the movie. Otherwise your body and mind will by synchronized in "I'm starving and who cares about this movie" mode.
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look at the shitty x-men uniforms, yet the first two were good. all that matters is the script. Not the fucking lame ass 80 page treatment Moriarty use to whine about last year but the ACTUAL FINISHED SHOOTING SCRIPT. I met Simon Kinsberg once at a screenintg about a month before principle shooting was supposed to start. The first thing he did say was that the production was moving too fast (no suprise), but he also mentioned how Moriarty's treatment was fucking outdated and lame. ALSO, he said Moriarty personally called him to apologize b/c he knew it was lame to have posted that steaming pile of BULLSHIT! He just wanted to use it to add ammunition to his HATE FOX/ROTHMAN FOUNDATION that so famously painted this website. The pictures look fine, and I'm waiting to see it before I say anything eitherway.
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...WHY they would use this inferior Juggernaut design when they had a fantastic earlier design (the one they used for the toy)? How much more could it have cost to add some metal pegs all over him and an elevated metal neckpiece? It would have made him a lot cooler with little money.
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Really, what other word can you use? Those pics are hideous. Oh, I guess that's another word. Still.
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I personally have no faith Kinberg. Sorry, but that XXX script made me vomit. Prove me wrong, though. I'll wait and see first as well.
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the scene where he is riding his bike on the grass and a cop tells him he can't then, oops, her clothes fall off. She tries to cover up but he's already seen everything.
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every time i log on here i'm finding that all these kids movies are being destroyed by the thirtysomething that feels these movies should be a religious experience. Another 'fabfour' type witchhunt. oh well.
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It's obvious something major has happened to him. So give us a break about his skin looking all dark. Maybe he got imbedded in lava, which cooled really fast or something (as someone upthread suggested).
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http://www.youtube.com/w/?v=xeL7cGmw6aM
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all this proves is that X3 has the worst still photographer in the history of cinema. he should have his license revoked. I still think the trailer kicked ass.
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The question I'm asking myself is "is this Batman & Robin or Batman Forever?" In other words, will this kill the franchise or will it fool enough people for Fox to make an even crappier sequel which WILL kill the franchise?
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you see, one of the problems here is that these are officially released photos. that means that people working on this film, people who are at least partially responsable for the look of this film, are the ones who took a look at these photos and said "yeah, these look F-ING great! we should totally release them and shut up all those nay-sayers who think this film won't be very good!" now, if these guys think these pictures look good enough to release, what does that say about their overall taste? not much. and i for one don't like anything i've seen so far for this movie, but that doesnt actually mean the movie will suck. harry even said he hopes it's a good movie. so do i. but everything i've seen so far doesn't look good, so what am i supposed to think? oh, and please stop defending T3. "talk to the had."
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my favorite part of T3 was how when arnold told john conner that they've figured out that even though they've tried to change the past by destroying the machines origins, one cannot change the future. ok, that i can accept, even though i dont like it. but he states as though it's common knowledge in the future. plus, he's one of the machines, so it seems plausable that the machines would know of this "fate" issue as well. so riddle me this, of the machines know fate intervines, and one cannot change the past...........why do they keep sending back machines to kill people? THEY SAID THEY CANT CHANGE THE FUTURE. it's probably one of the biggest plot holes i've ever seen in a movie.
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I remeber when Vaughan was onboard how news from this site said the script was good and so forth, then Vaughan leaves and ratner is hired and the script is all of a sudden shyt???? Harry has been against this movie since Ratner came on board and has bashed everything. I'm not saying that X3 will be good, because i have my doubts about the film. Not because of Ratner cause i think he's a talented enough director to handle this movie, but because of the writers. Penn is ok with help, but Kinberg??? I'm more worried about the writers them the director at this point.
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I was being sarcastic. The vamps in in Trinity looked like Eurotrash shit and that was indeed one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Like I said, I'm just not "on" today.
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ups!
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Juugs costumes isn't the best but it's not the worse. I think his entire torsoe should've been covered and not exposed. That's all what's wromng with Juggs look. The other three look fine. I mean what costumes should they exactly have on???? Aren't they supposed to be part of the morlocks? Well Cylisto is. I just don't see what's with all the bitching is about.
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I love that site. I've been going since I was a teen. Always consistent, always updated, never really drops the ball on any scoop. You go, Gareth.***And on the subject of web design, if AIC is your gold standard, you're visually retarded.
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Thanks for getting my hopes up. Not even Picard can save this film.
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the toilet store?
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If anyone thinks this photo where you can tell the guy has on a helmet or mask with the exposed flesh neck and untouched in post production is going to be the final look in the movie, well all i can say is I pity you.
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Wow. Pictures do NOT predict how a movie will be. Period. Harry has decided from DAY ONE that he will hate this movie and everything about it, just like he did with Fantastic Four. Now that wasn't the best film, but the point is that he and people who follow him will look for ANY excuse to say 'this will suck' before they've actually seen the film, and when they do, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I just don't listen anymore. I haven't seen anything in these pictures that makes me worry. In fact, I'm more and more looking forward to it. And I'm kinda digging those 'take a stand' pictures. And with the Ultimates thing, people are aware that this is a direct comic adaptation of the Ultimates' first series, so this 'what if' thing is kinda inaccurate since the Ultimate verse been established as its own universe in the comics already. It just wasn't clear whether Harry knew that or not from his review.
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I remember that, too. (I'm 34). Colossus was frozen that way for several issues and nobody knew if he was dead or not. Kitty Pryde and he were dating and there was a cover of him frozen just like in that picture. She was crying and embracing him.
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http://www.superherohype.com/images/takeastandlarge.jpg
... They have a "Minority Report" look to them, sort of washed out and bleached of life. Reminds me a bit of "Constantine" too. But the close ups of character's faces makes me feel better about the flick. Maybe focus on the characters will help this film the way it did the first one. That had HORRID CGI battles, but the story and the characters saved it. -
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That can't be a coincidence. I don't see Ratner bringing anything good to the franchise and the pics seem to be confirming this. For some reason Fox doesn't want to make money. Hell, the thing is even called "The Last Stand." How shitty is that? Avi Arad needs to go as well. How many pieces of shit has he praised as gold?
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And I'm not a big Superman fan either.
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Fun movies, yeah. But what's with Singer's grand-level obsession? Convert all humans into mutants? Kill all humans or mutants? What, there isn't a middle ground - we can't limit the scope to maybe a city or two? I enjoyed X1 and X2, but for their little touches, the small-scale fights... when Professor X stops time or whatever, it gets to be a bit much. So even if X3 isn't what I hoped it'd be, I wouldn't be that disappointed. I don't have the first two (or Singer) on such a pedestal. Are these pictures great? No, but nothing really sets them apart from other not-so-good stills in the past. Why do these warrant an "utterly doomed" headline? Gee, I wonder. Probably doesn't mean much to anyone, but if it weren't for the talkbacks, I wouldn't come to this site.
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geez u people are talking as if the first two xmen movies were like the first star wars and empire strikes back. They were above average at best. Their costumes SUCKED!! it's not like Ratner changed the scheme. Everyone is still wearing cheezy black leather. I am NOT a Singer fan. AS far as i'm concerned he's only made one great film "Usual Suspects". You think colossus or beast looks bad, have u seen bostwick as Lois Lane? That to me is just laughable. I'm not saying this movie is gonna be good but i'm hearing the same critiques i heard when the first one came out. To me none of the xmen films were really that great.
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bosworth not bostwick...sorry i must have just seen rocky horror picture show got bostwick and bosworth mixed up..sorry
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Not only was I not blown away by the first two X-men flicks, the Rush Hour series is, at best, COMPETENTLY directed. Singer never floored me with his direction, and I could say the same about Brett Ratner. The costumes look corny? Think about what you're saying. Think about what the costumes actually look like in the first two films, or ANY comic book film. Just pack the fucker with expensive special effects and shit getting destroyed (i don't care...Magneto ripping the Golden Gate bridge apart looks awesome) and I'll be satisfied.
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Ratner is an insider, hollywood party guy with a fucking disco in his house. he should stick to what he does best - setting up a medium long shot, placing Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker in front of it, and letting them do what they do. Ratner is a hack. I also heard he had a panic attack at the Grammys. What kind of director, let alone MAN, has a panic attack at a freaking awards show. Bitch... But I'm still seein' this.
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http://tinyurl.com/cbg6a
Off topic, but it just got posted on superherohype.
Church says Grace doesn't become a villain until the end. Hm. -
Doesnt excuse the eyes, but the neck could easily be silver. But the X3 hate really really is pathetic and amateur considering noones actually seen it or seen anything more than a few teaser trailers.
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I can understand, it must be very tough being a frustrated wannabe filmmaker.
also, this movie is only in it's first stages of post?? collossus critiques?? bollox!
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Oil slick man?
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I don't think it looks that bad. Not great, but you guys are overreacting. The trailer looks promising, and look, at least they fixed Magneto's helmet. It looks 10x better!
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People will still see this film.
What will be the biggest summer movie of 06. It stars Tom hanks and Ian McKellen and its about a code called Davinci and from what I hear Howard has despensed with the shoddy prose and has contained the plot and the character. Mr Brown is going to be a very happy man this summer.........or at least his ban manager will be... -
http://public.fotki.com/x3movie/fan_art/beast_au.html
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It didn't derserve that...it had it's whole life ahead of it. It could have been a doctor! No instead it's a junkie in the gutter feeding on rat shit.
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X-Men 3 is a Brett Ratner film (bad) which is using a screenplay that was tailored to make Hallie Berry happy (worse). It will indeed suck balls. That being said, what is wrong with the Colossus picture? It looks like Colossus. It looks fine. Effects and make up will not be X-Men 3's undoing. Colossus looks great. Beast looks amazing. It will be bad script = bad director that kills it.
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http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/muzicfreek2005/Misc%20X3%20pics/jugstorwolv.jpg - We come in peace. We are from the X3 movie set. What is your name man in strappy leather outfit? --- I'm actually on the set of He-man2 and I play Ram-Man
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looks cool to me. i looked at all the pics. looks exciting. sure some of the costumes are a bit rusty. but, i believe that will be cleaned in post. i personally think this is just another case of harry and co. playing favs. to me, this movie looks cooler than superman returns. talk about wardrobe malfunctions. that supes costume looks plastic and painted on. at least these costumes look vaguely fucntional. i'm definately not in tune with harry on this. i wanna see this movie. and, i'm rooting for ratner. i like his work A LOT on red dragon. haters be damned.
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Calm down, geeks.
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The big problem is Ratner. Haven't read the actual script, so I can't yet say that problem is bigger. But I live in fear when it comes to X3. I might have to, once again, force myself from reading or watching anything anymore that deals with the film, so I can go in fresh and untainted . . . and hopefully not despise Mr. Ratner once again. FUCK the HACK.
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It's using the Williams score, end of story.
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Is that supposed to be Collosus? He looked way better in X2!!!!!!! Shit!
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Hey Folks,
Let's face it this movie is crap. Now my way of looking at it is this is the price we have to pay to see the fountain. By my figures the more this movie sucks the more the fountain will be great so it will be worth it in the end. Besides maybe this will mean that asshole head of fox will get fired. -
I had high hopes for Red Dragon and that film had a great cast but it just didn't have that "wow". After that movie I knew Ratner would never have "it" as a quality story teller. Until those pics surfaced did I thought maybe just maybe Ratner pulls it off, honestly, this will be my first genre movie I will not see opening-weekend, unless I hear otherwise from this site. Superman Returns is going to be great, you can just tell!
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No one else has spent the last 35 years envisioning the moment Jug - Jug, is it? - appears in the flesh.
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"if the movie's going to suck just from reading a shitty script and just because all the images from it look like complete and total garbage." Ummmmm, yes we can. If it looks like dogshit and smells like dogshit, should you have to taste it before you know it's REALLY dogshit? I know I don't, but mabye some people like the taste of dogshit because a studio put a post-it note on top that said "X-Men" or "Star Wars" or "Fantastic 4". I am not one of those people. I'm a fanboy from way back, but I made a vow 7 years never to be "Phantom Menaced" again. I see a lot fewer movies in the theaters since then, but I also have seen fewer shitty ones as well.
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Harry says he is producing, I think its called ghost town or something?
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People will still see this film.
What will be the biggest summer movie of 06. It stars Tom hanks and Ian McKellen and its about a code called Davinci and from what I hear Howard has despensed with the shoddy prose and has contained the plot and the character. Mr Brown is going to be a very happy man this summer.........or at least his ban manager will be... -
Blade: Trinity will seem like a whole lot better film.
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How have we gone from Quint's relative enthusiasm and optimism surrounding fairly crappy pictures of Juggernaut / Colossus / Rogue to ripping everything that emerges?
Colossus looks better in these pictures. Fact.
Harry, explain yourself. What's wrong with the costume design? Have you seen the other films?! This is pretty much consistent with what's gone before. -
An obviously unfinished shot of Colossus and a snapshot of Juggernaut and co. They're dressed as characters in a superhero movie. OF COURSE THEY LOOK RIDICULOUS. Yet another tired attempt to shit on the film because you don't like the director. Some of you are so clearly gay for Ratner.
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The problem is Brett Ratner. He's a no-talent hack who was better when he was making rap videos and trying to act black. Then he went Asian on us and has sexually harassed nearly every Asian actress in LA in the process (Brett - please stay out of Asanebo. Everybody there hates you and your piggish friends) and now he's fucked X3? GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS, HOLLYWOOD - RATNER IS A NO-TALENT FORTUNATE SON BOMB FACTORY. Word.
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Its a frickin' talkback. I actually think the opposite is true, or at least in my case. For the most part I don't care if this film turns out good or bad. I enjoyed the first two but I realized once Singer left the project the story would probably go in a direction Singer wouldn't of taken. That's natural. My attitude is that if a sequel bothers you its no point in getting overly upset over it. I will give the movie a chance but if I dislike it, who cares? I won't own it on DVD so essentially it doesn't exist as far as my movie going experience is concerned. Yes I would rather like the film but I've come to accept that Hollywood and my tastes don't see eye to eye a great deal of the time. I think that is true of most people. I'm happy to of at least gotten two films I enjoy, if the third sucks I won't let it ruin my enjoyment of those two films. I think thats a healthy attitude. And by the way I think Godfather 3 is underrated. I think the problem is the first two were flawless and third isn't. So people are much harder on the film than it deserves. Sure it could of been better but I don't despise the film.
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...Masters of the Universe, they should cast Dolph Lundgren in dual roles as Cable and Stryfe.
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You know, I can not believe the lack of faith. Ok...Fine...You hate Ratner. That's ok. But you'd think you'd have some faith in the returning cast. Stewart, McKellan, Jackman, etc. They know the characters now. They know their craft. They know the X-Men. They ARE the X-Men. In my opinion, Ratner is nothing but a figure head. "OK guys, this is the scene we're doing next." That's about all he has to do. Then step back and let his cast do the real work. I myself am guilty of not having faith. When I heard that Kelsey Grammer was going to play Beast, I was taken aback and just a little pissed. I mean c'mon...Frasier Crane as Dr. Mcoy? I don't think so. (Just like I thought when I heard Michael Keaton was playing Batman, or Tobey Maguire playing Spider-man, or this new guy Hugh Jackman playing Wolverine) But when I saw the X3 trailer, all my fears were setteled. I thought he looked cool, and when I saw him in the VERY SHORT action sequence, I couldn't wait to watch it all over again. So...hate Ratner all you want. But have a little faith in the people that got us here in the first place. The cast. Even Storm.
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Harry, as I recall, HATED the original costumes for the first X-Men. But that movie turned out great. That being said...the real fear of X-Men was Dougray Scott as Wolverine. Luckily...that was avoided. but this movie...it's Ratner. Maybe the movie will be good. But as I always point out on this site, my brother worked with him. And he is every bit the hack you think he is. I mean EXACTLY. I'm sure there are people on this site posting (call them momma's boy geeks or not) who would make ten times the movie Ratner would. ANYTHING good in his films is from other people. I'm sure those Fox execs are no prize but you bet your ass...he fits right in with them. They are cut from the same cloth of mediocrity. I've given up on this film. I always like to be pleasantly surprised but who would have ever thought one of the greatest arcs in comic history would be done by Brett fucking Ratner. You know what's gonna rock ? V for Vendetta. on the IMAX. That's gonna be the flick of the year.
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I see the movie!
Common sense, here.
Ent Weekly printed a letter from soem guy saying "He won't be seeing the Superman movie because Hollywood can't get the character right".
What a completely stupid thing to say.
Judging things you don't know about or haven't seen is, what class?
pre-judging=prejudice!
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Hey Gang-
I found a link to a MUCH better collosus picture with the eyes CG'd in. Keep in mind the pic looks a little animated, but it is only a publicity still.
Please check it out here.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/pictures/?id=X-Men%203|7|10
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you'd think harry would actually post the pictures that looked good instead on focusing on the bad ones. we love you harry but this shit campaign against this movie is ridiculous
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http://www.alanandsandycarey.com/antonbursch/xmen3withlotrtroll.jpg
http://www.alanandsandycarey.com/antonbursch/wolverinefrodo.jpg
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That strumpet in the leather looks hot. No, not her.. the other one. Are those Morlocks? Weren't they kind of gross and disgusting in the comics? In any case, maybe these honeys smell like sewer water. Is this flick in smell-o-vision? Sorry, lots of questions on this one.
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Just let Japan handle it. Please.
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WB really must be paying your sorry ass off, with the crap you've been pushing about X-3. Jesus Christ, you've lost all credibility, if you ever even had any.
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...because Angel is looking out over, of all cities, San Francisco!
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Sure, lets do a comic book movie but let's not use the identifiable colored tights costumes because in real life no one would dress like that and no one but a comic book fan would expect to see that in a movie about comic book characters. So lets just put everyone in black leather instead. Black leather is always cool, right? No, wait, they already did a parody of that stupid idea and called it MYSTERY MEN.
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...here are fucking studio plants. I mean WTF. One or two nut jobs, sure, but this is really suspicious. The guy has never done anything worthy, except fuck a few nice Hollywood babes.
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Is that pic Sinister perhaps, not Colossus?
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At least colossus is in the movie. better something than nothing, right?
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I mean I think it's wise to be skeptical. I have no idea why people hate Ratner so much but of course he's not as trustworthy as Brian Singer. But I don't get what's supposed to be bad about these pictures. They actually look way better than the ones they released from the first X-men picture. Some of them look really cool for that kind of thing. And every one of them is better than any freeze frame you could take from the entire running time of Daredevil, which got rave reviews on here. Also, as a self-taught expert on the naked blue chick, I don't see what's supposedly wrong with that picture. Okay, so the blue hairy guy in a suit looks like a hilariouis comedy sketch, but it is exactly in keeping with the other X-men pictures where weird monsters walk around talking to normal people and try to get involved in politics, so I think it's fine. And the trailer looked good. At the very least you all should be happy that Lalo god damn Schifrin is doing a theme for your precious X-Men. Anyway, I say wait until you see it to blow a gasket, there's just not enough evidence yet.
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Nothing in those photos looks bad or spells certain doom. Geez folks chill your ass' and wait for the damn movie.......what a concept eh?
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Er...but she's exactly the fucking same as in the last 2.
Seriously, I defy anybody (including you, Harry) to tell me what's definitively wrong with this shot:
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John Bruno is the special effects supervisor for X3. The same guy that developed the technology to realize Cameron's T-1000 in Terminator 2. Same guy who developed the psuedo pod sequence in the Abyss. Same guy who did that little movie called Titanic. Basically the same guy who pushed CGI to where we can have our giant Peter Jackson Gorillas and John Hammond Dinosaurs. I don't think he's going to be retrograding with Colossus' special effects and general look since he basically wrote the book on the whole photorealistic liquid metal man schtick. If anything he should be chomping at the bit to up the ante with this picture. That shot of Colossus in the metal getup strikes me as more of a reference suit akin to the Jar Jar Binks suit the fool who played that character wore on the set of Phantom Menace. Pictures look fine to me.
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Harry, you're overreacting, and the film isn't even finished! Ratner & Co. still have 3 months of post production left before release. I'm sure a lot of people looked at advance pics before X2 prior to release, and delcared it a piece of shit. Have a Guinness, and relax!
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For those, including Harry, who are freaking out, get a grip! Those pictures are no worse or better than any other production photos of any high profile flick that has been out to date (including AICN's precious Kong). The outfits for the core characters are pretty much the same exact design as the other two films. How much do you get paid to be the official net version of Chicken Little?
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I don't mind the way beast looks. The morlocks are just shit characters who ruined every comic they were in that didn't involve them being whiped out by Sabretooth. They were a poor choice, but I guess it could have been worse and they could have had Mojo. Juggernaught will apparently be this film's Sabretooth. Poorly visuallized and unfairly marginalized. While I'm dissapointed, thats hardly a make or break. The first x-men really fell apart during the final showdown. The 2nd did it much better but wasn't perfect, which is why I like the 2nd more. That is also probably where the 3rd will live or die.
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... to sink so low as to make Double Dragon 2. Now I know. Peace.
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I looked at the pictures and they seem ok to me. Am I missing something here? I don't understand. Perhaps Harry could explain what's wrong the shots so I can be a bit more enlightened? So far all I have read are bad costume designing and terrible shots. The 2nd criticism is a little too vague for my liking.
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to quote letterman.."seventy percent of what he says is pure crap"
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Loo at Colossus' wrist, the hand piece is clearly separate form the armpiece. We saw Ptiotr "Metal Up" in X2, do you really think the effect will not look as good as it did in X2? The eyeholes are there SO HE CAN FUCKING SEE FUCKTARDS! Do you really think you'll have Colossus' eyes with visible skin around them in the movie? This suit is obviously there for reference for the post production. As another poster mentioned before, wearing that suit would be difficult as fuck to light. I'm not digging the look of Juggernaut, personally i think they should've stuck with the maquette design.
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Is it me or is callisto cute i thought she was supposed to look like a dude.
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Looks like something Boll would make.
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We all know this movie isn't looking to promising so lets just close our eyes and hope for the best.
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I just saw these. this is gonna be bad.
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i was having a good day i guess. I hadnt been online at all. I dont feel very good anymore. In fact everytime i picture ratner in that wolvie suit i die a little inside. I can just see him in a conversation with the actors about whats going on in the scene and him trailing off because some homely chick just leaned over in front of him and hes gotta gim him some o that. If avi and rothman are involoved in any way when marvel takes control of their products (thats what they are now) ill have no interest in whatever is created. it just keeps coming.
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When i saw the trailer for X3, i was a bit impressed. especially with the scene where magneto pep talks a army of evil mutants.
but those damn lame ass posters, are changing my opinion about this movie. "Take a stand"? more like take a shit!
Now i'm still looking forward to the avengers movie regardless of the so so review. anything is better than nothing. but i agree if the talneted guys at sqaure who were responsihle for advent children handled the animation,this movie would be distributed to theaters instead of going straight to dvd. -
has someone got a link please?
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Did Vinnie Jones actually bulk up for real? Thats quite something!
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darkhorizons.com/2006/x3/xmen1.php
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http://www.darkhorizons.com/2006/x3/xmen1.php
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Of how Harry over-reacts and rips on a movie when nobody from the production bends over to accomodate him..this CANNOT be one of those instances I am sure..
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Where's Dolf Lundgren!? Baahahaahaahaaahahaaahahaa .... breathe! BREATHE!! BAHAHAAAHAHAAAAA!!!!
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FUCK!!! I get about as emotional watching this as I do fucking the MIGHTY MORPHINS...meaning TERRIBLY emotional about how FUCKED up you can FUCK up something as Beautiful as the Idea of Superheros! Not mortals as placeholders wearing stylistically confusing crap...that was "Masters of the Universe"...please! Ratner, you fucked up BIG time. Never give Ratner anything beautiful ever again.
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Where you can see his eyes through the holes in the suit. Why doesn't anyone ever notice that? They'll do an hour long History Channel doc on that and no one brings it up. Anyway, I'd have to say this is no much to go on. Calm down guys.
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Everyone is complaining about how bad "X-3" is going to be. Am I the only one who thinks the first 2 are dull and overrated? How can a franchise go downhill when it never reached the top of the hill in the first place?
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Seeing Jean Grey in her underwear might be worth the price of admission.
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Do you honestly think they're stupid enough to have Colossus running around in an unfinished get-up like that? They'll do like they did on the Bjork video, half appliance with CGI polishing. There's no way we'll see the flesh around Petey's eyes. Now, as for Juggernaut, I think we officially have FUBAR.
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Thoes pics were leaked out from the Fox offices and made it to various boards and website. Yesterday Fox sent letters of "cease and desist" to the websites that were hosting them, as Dark Horizons and X-Men.de, and started legal action against the person responsible for the leak.
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Nothing wrong with what i`m seeing there.
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