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Because you demanded it... ALIEN VS PREDATOR 2...
Hey folks, Harry here with a report straight from the maw of Rothman. You know what happens when a painfully mediocre film based on a great concept makes a little money at Fox? They set out to make an even worse hunk of mediocrity. So... set off the confetti cannons - another nail in ALIENS and PREDATORS' coffins is being hammered...
At the premiere for Big Mommas House 2, Tom Rothman, Head of Fox spoke
about X Men 3, but what is also of note is his comments below on the AVP 2
film. According to SKNR.Net who first reported reported months ago that a
film was coming and that it would have a contemporary setting according to
Rothman based on the planned script, well thanks to The Movie Reporter and
their exclusive interview, the news below seems to confirm this.
Q: AvP 2 any development there?
TR: Yeah, uh, Hutch would know actually better but I think they just got
the script, they just got the script in...we are making that movie, it's
gonna be kick ass (smiles).
Q: How soon?
TR: We're hoping for August of 2007 release. That's what we hope.
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WTF? We put up with that in the first one. I want one IN SPACE!
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Why Lord? Why?
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Jan 26, 2006 2:36:05 PM CST
Big Mamma's House vs Aliens vs Predator. you know you wanna
by spice-orange
A vs P was the first time ever where the game was better than the movie. I hope no one goes do this shit, but knowing how things go... it'll make 60 million on openning weekend.
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I can't wait.
I'm serious.
I liked the first.
It wasn't great but I had fun.
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nooooooooooooooooo!!
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Jan 26, 2006 2:37:13 PM CST
When sequels like Underworld 2 outperform the originals...
by headlesscorpse
...then studios want more of that, obviviously. Not sure a movie like this will perform in August, but slip it in along with the dreck of January and February, and you've got a flick people will go out for.
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And AvP2 is not surprising?
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Fuck...
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Jan 26, 2006 2:38:27 PM CST
I'd rather see a second AvP film directed by Dean Devlin or
by beefywhore
And I hate Renny Harlin and Dean Devlin with every ounce of my being...and I'm pretty fat!!!
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Yea...sure...
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The only way the contemporary setting works is if AvP2 is about a game of capture the flag b/w the two species where whoever brings home more bloody pieces of Martin Lawrence wins.
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...that was the sound of nobody giving a shit about the AVP franchise.
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...I didn't hate the original. The aliens have never looked better and the queen was terrific. I excused the contemporary setting because it was the only way the film could get made and I had hoped they'd use the film's success to geenlight a bigger, space-based, futuristic sequel. What pisses me off even more, though, was watching the "unrated" version of AvP on DVD recently. Apart from a couple of throwaway scenes amounting to a paltry eight minutes, NOTHING else of the character developing shots were reinstated. The biggest insult, however, was the addition of CGI blood into some of the original scenes. How fucking lame can you get?
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Are we really all THAT shocked at this development? To be fair, I didn't outright hate the first one...I guess my expectations were so low that it could only exceed them, but it was a mildly enjoyable movie at best. The potential is there for a kick ass AVP movie. I still don't know why they don't just film the original Dark Horse comic book, as that would have been a GREAT movie (albeit with a huge budget) full of decent characters and some fantastic action sequences. The only way that this film would 'kick ass' is if they got Ahnold to reprise his 'Dutch' character and have him take a shot at both the Aliens and the Predators. 'You're one ugly motherfucker...but you're an even uglier motherfucker!' Meh, we'll see...
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That was the last bit of my soul dying.
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i wonder if the dude that won the T-800 endoskeleton arm has shit his pants over this news yet? and someone needs to stretch this talkback- because news like this deserves some good stretching.
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Jan 26, 2006 2:56:29 PM CST
on the bright side, it can't be much worse than the first on
by uncooked_meat
Can it? *glances around nervously*
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Jan 26, 2006 2:57:33 PM CST
on the bright side, it can't be much worse than the first on
by uncooked_meat
Can it? *glances around nervously*
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but the last 30 minutes of AvP don't suck. At all. Granted, there's little to no dialogue in it, but it surprisingly kicks a lot of action ass. The rest of the movie? Pretty damn bad. And the kickass last 30 minutes don't make up for the shittiness of the first near-hour. But I'd put the last 30 minutes of AvP up against anything in RESSURRECTION, except the underwater sequence, any day.
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..needs to be infected with Herpes, then they could understand what it is like to carry around baggage like the first steaming pile of shit that was AvP. My eyes are still stained with the cinevomit. ANYONE who even ADMITS to "not minding", "liking" OR GOD FORBID "loving" the first one, should be packed up in a rocket and sent right into the fucking sun. AvP was completely without merit. The script sucked, the action BLEW, and the fucking lame team-up was the worst idea in movie history to be trumped only by AvP2. DIE everyone responsible for this, just DIE.
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The first one was handled poorly, but at least it had potential. Not so sure about the sequel though.
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I don't know what they were thinking of having the first AVP rated PG-13. They are really retarded when they make a movie based on two rated R franchises PG-13. IDIOTS. Make the sequel R and I'll see it.
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Sorry, but I enjoyed the 1st one. A lot. It had weak points, but it was much better than Alien 3 and 4, as well as Predator 2. I bought it. You all just didnt WANT to like it cuz of higher than Lord of the Rings or Superman Returns expectations OR because of Paul Anderson. Go ahead, flame me. I dont feel right about it but I liked it. *SHRUG*
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Jan 26, 2006 3:03:05 PM CST
I'll give it a chance if the pedigree behind it is unexpeded
by chickychow
face it, if done ambitiously by someone with an eye for epic-size sci-fi, we would all love to give it a shot. PWAnderson is of course not the man for it, AvP fucking sucked and I hate it with every fiber of my being. BUT they (the a-holes who run FOX, who attend premieres for movies called Big Momma's House 2) COULD choose to try and make this interesting, they COULD hire the right people, not just go with "Well, his movies are made on decent budgets and they perform rather okay overseas, why not just hire him again." DON'T just settle for some bullshit, you should know that everyone hates the first one and are just waiting to pounce on this thing - so ATTEMPT to do something COOL! And don't call it AvP2 and don't rate it PG fucking 13!
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A revolutionary showdown.
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I walked out of that theater furiously. I knew it would in all liklihood not be good, but the experiece I had was like watching a Sci-Fi channel movie on the big screen... and to the guy who says the last 30 minutes are kickass? are you referring to the ridiculous sight of Sanaa Lathan and the Predator running around together, almost hand-in-hand? a more absurd and laughable image I can't think of. (and I'm not a HUGE PWA hater, i sorta like Event Horizon and Resident Evil is fair)
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I demanded Aliens vs. Predator 1, I got it, and it sucked.
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Come ON, Peter, you know you want to do it.
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I'm glad you had the foresight to kill something as original as Firefly so you could continue pumping out this kind of steaming load for years to come.
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Jan 26, 2006 3:13:27 PM CST
Is that four horsemen I see over there on the horizon?
by renonevada2000
Surely the End Times are upon us.
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...when they released the "unrated" DVD version. I think the reason I get so angry thinking about the first one is the same as why reflecting on Episode III pisses me off. Both movies were actually painfully close to being good. They had all the right effects in place. The basic plots were solid. They were just both destroyed by a complete lack of logical character/story development and dialogue that doesn't make you want to deafen yourself with hot spoons. I maintain that either film could be salvaged, without reshoots, buy a talented editor with an ILM-style AVID. Wouldn't even need the actors to do new voice overs. Just synthesize some new dialogue (because even synthesized dialogue would have been better) and doctor the lips on the sceen to make it synch up. Boom. Movies fixed.
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Jan 26, 2006 3:16:35 PM CST
This just means we have to wait 20 more years for the AvP we all
by digitaldong
Like the one on a different planet, set in the future, and with freak'n Marines. For shits and giggles they should get Uwe Boll to direct this.
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Make the damn Predators SMART. How the hell can they be "outwitted" by Aliens?
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Did anyone else notice that everything at Fox, that doesn't even have a script yet, is slated for summer 2007? What a bunch of jerkwads...sad thing is that crap like Fantastic 4 two would make money so they will keep churning out shit movies.
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Whoever Loses, We Win... cos either way, Martin Lawrence will be dead.
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While everyone whined about it "crapping" on two franchises, I watched it as a cheesy, but fun b-movie and nothing more. The scene where the girl teams up with the Predator and they're running side by side is freaking hilarious.
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I love.. lamp. I LOVE LAMP!
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It was that fucking bad. And this is coming from a guy who saw aliens when he was 13 and was absolutely FUCKING SCARED SHITLESS. To this day, it is one of my favorite cinema experiences.
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C'mon, you know you want to see it. Hell, I want to see it!
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Remember the days when the Alien movies were actually considered a prestige franchise? And they apparently turned down a Ridley Scott/James Cameron collaboration for AVP? Tits...the lot of them.
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This will probably have a small budget and lots of cheesy CGI and go straight to DVD. I actually thought the first Aliens Vs. Predator was entertaining, so maybe they will make another theatrical feature, but the budget will certainly be MUCH smaller.
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Im sorry. I really try not to flame people on the talkbacks. I really try to appreciate the fact that people have diffeent opinions. I believe in tolerence; I also believe that if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. But....I have to do this just once....If you enjoyed AVP 1 I hope you get aids and die. It is cunts like you that ruin franchises for fans like me. Feel free to call me an asshole!
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Can the sequel be any worse than the first? Yes? It can? Alright then. can't wait to not see this movie.
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...and I'll go watch it. Don't bitch too much about PWA, or they'll get Uwe Boll to abort AVP2 instead.
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Jan 26, 2006 3:46:35 PM CST
I would have much rather seen them make "Alien Loves Predator"
by grandmufftarkin
That would've kicked ass. ABE! alienlovespredator.com
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That's rather an extreme statement to make, wishing that people who enjoyed AVP 'get aids and die'. For cryin' out loud, it's just a FUCKING MOVIE. Everyone gets something different out of every movie, and if someone found enjoyment out of a movie that I didn't like, then more power to them. I'm happy for them. I'll disagree with them, but to wish an aids related death on them is a little bit excessive. Wish them to be forced to see 'Citizen Kane' if you must, but DEATH???? Take a fuckin' pill. Breathe calmly and relax...it's only a movie...
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Jan 26, 2006 3:51:29 PM CST
You'd think this guy would be embarrassed to admit he was at
by the funketeer
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Jan 26, 2006 3:55:38 PM CST
just put a few scenes of extreme gore, pop an eyeball or two, a
by peven
really, Harry wants class when he see a B movie
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Jan 26, 2006 4:01:02 PM CST
By script he means he just finished taking a dump and he managed
by r.c. the "wise"
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Jan 26, 2006 4:04:33 PM CST
They just need to do that old script they had with the the space
by modlight
Just remake Aliens, but with Predators added in. It ain't original, but it would do the trick.
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First, go Mo-Cap. Do something no one's done before: mo-cap an Alien warrior, and a Predator. No more moronic Predators, please. Good things about AvP: the warriors moved faster and fought better. No one's going to go back to just fangs, when you see how the tales work. And for God's sake, read the Dark Horse comics and novels! I just reread Steve Perry's "Alien vs. Predator: Prey". It's the PERFECT vehicle for Lucy Liu.
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can the predators not be such huge fucking pussies that die in less then 30 seconds this time around please?
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Deadliest of Species was decent too (although I only read one ish) Kate Beckinsale can be the trophy wife :)
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Jan 26, 2006 4:09:20 PM CST
Yeah...if some alien life form has to die in the first thirty se
by childe roland
...throw a few of those ridiculously stupid aliens from Signs into the mix. "Ahhh! Look out! The Predator has a squirt gun!"* ----- *(Translated from the Alien)
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Jan 26, 2006 4:10:15 PM CST
I hope they have it evolve over 100 year periods with some big e
by warp11
The story would cover the rise of the Predator civilization. Explain the background behind the Aliens. And it would all cumliminate in some huge event in the far future. Possibly where the Aliens are out of control. Maybe have the company going under. Bring in Androids? Or, Androids are all that is left of humanity and just bypass the Aliens movie series and leave us with the impression that eventually humanity got it's due from the Aliens. yea.
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Jan 26, 2006 4:12:46 PM CST
Well at least Lance Henriksen will get to play a variation on hi
by spacesheik
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Jan 26, 2006 4:14:19 PM CST
I can picture the meeting clearly: "Hey Anderson"...Yeah Tom...
by r.c. the "wise"
"So Anderson" ...*chop* *chop* *chop* *chop* *chop* ... *sweep* *sweep* *sweep* ... *chop* *chop* *chop* ... *sweep* *sweep* "You got any bright ideas. Were in need. We can't make American Idol into a film, and Star Wars is done hell, most of our franchises are finished. Perhaps we should decide to consistantly make quality movies again. Man, I can't believe I said that out loud." *chop* *chop* *sweep* "You can the dire conditions that are afflicting my judgment. Got any ideas." *sniff* *sniiiiiiiiifff* *cough* *cough* *sniff* ... Well sir, I was thinking of making another AVP film. *chop* *chop* *chop* *sweep* *sweep* "Brilliant idea W.S.! Here's $100 million dollars. Go wild!" *sniff* *sniff* *ssnniiiiiiiiiiffffff* *sniff* "Oooo that's gooood producing!"
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The first one was called AVP:Alien vs Predator, right?
So, the second one should be AsvP:Aliens vs Predator? Or Aliens vs Predators? Why wasn't the first one titled Aliens vs Predators? This really bothers me... lol. -
I would pay to see. Unless directed by Anderson.
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All you whiny little fanboys have been complaining for years for a AvP movie and when one comes along that has all the ingredients that any serious person knew was going to be in it - ie. aliens, predators, human beings thrown into the mix, lots of acid spraying, people getting killed - what do you all do? start moaning that the script wasn't photocopied from the old Dark Horse AvP comicbook that we all knew and adored. The exact same thing happened when Alien3 came out and wasn't the big 'Earth overrun by the aliens' saga that we all wanted to see. Wake up and smell the formaldahyde, people, those well-preserved classics were NEVER going to be what the scriptwriters and filmmakers were going to do with either movie, why? Because (and I know I'm gonna get flamed for this) the filmmakers are artists, not photocopy technicians. They're going to come up with their own story. Realistically speaking, AvP had the basic visuals that comprised every fan of both franchises' wet dreams, it just didn't have the story you all wanted. Was AvP a great movie? No, of course not, were were really expecting Shakespeare, here people? Hell, were we even expecting Tarentino? of course we weren't. AvP was a passable movie, it made money from the same bunch of Alien and Predator fans who are going to be clammoring to see the next one. If the story of AvP2 is half as good as AvP, this could be a good movie. Let's face it, the first one certainly set up a sequel ... If it's in a 'contemporary' setting, that can work too, after all, everyone loved Predator 2. So, basically, just cool it a little bit, AvP wasn't a terrible movie, AvP might be okay.
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They never cease to amaze. I actually did rent the first one and it was a joke. For pitty's sake make fucking Predator 3. What are these fucking idiots doing sitting on it's development with a thumb up their ass?
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...It's slow demise will mean the rise of Bollywood and Australian film in it's place... then you'll REALLY have something to whinge about in aintitcool talkback...
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That's QUITE an understatement for the NONSENSE that was AVP. Shame too, because it could have, and should have, been great.
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Yeah, I hope you get sun-burnt on your penis head with your foreskin drawn back and thensomeone pours butenol on it and lights it with a match.
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Jan 26, 2006 4:44:51 PM CST
Dean Devlin, Renny Harlin and Paul Anderson shoud all be sentenc
by batutta
What a trio of hacks. The only thing that must let them sleep at night is knowing that somewhere out there, Uwe Boll is making films.
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For those who knock this, I only have one thing to say: there must have been people who saw this and liked it in the cinema and the there are those who rented it on DVD. Beacuse if this film had died at the Box office and had only raked in say 50,000,000 worldwide. fox would not have green lit sequel, this film possibly did a lot better then most people think. Paul Thomas anderson is still one of the worst filmmakers around. But put him up against oh, UWE Boll and anderson is genius. Event HOrizon contains one the scariest scenes in modern sci-fi were Sam neill preforms surgery one of the crew by strapping him to a table and rips open the guys chest with a lancet. I couldnt watch that scene.
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Camera was too close and too jittery in the big scene where a Predator and Alien were fighting. Also no other Alien or Predator film had a stupid "shock" ending so don't do it next time.
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Howe are you gonna be able to expain the aliens being in a contempory setting...again?
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Is that asshole Rothman at Fox said it's going to "kick ass". Way to sell yourself short you fucking prick. You can't go that far with this sequel. We all know it won't kick ass...the first wasn't fun at all. Everything else about this is just more sad January movie news. No summer trailers to kick our ass and just piece of shit James Franco movies coming out every other week. bleh.
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Jan 26, 2006 5:23:38 PM CST
At the end they should have to team up to battle Critters!!!!
by nice marmot
And since you KNOW some tool will correct me, I mean Crites.
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... that guy's the shit.
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Jan 26, 2006 5:27:05 PM CST
Set it in 1980s New York with a Ray Parker Jr. soundtrack
by performingmonkey
Once and for all they are going to get their retarded wish. We are going to see Giger's aliens hunting people down in the street in crappy sub-par CG form. How sad. Here's what they should have done - Predator 3. Set it in '80s NYC. Bring back the Guvvonator in a cameo role. Make it the hardest R ever seen in cinema. Bring in the Pegasus crew to gang-rape a cylon. There you have it. Also, the fact that Ridley Scott was thinking about returning to the Alien universe but was vetoed in favour of a stupidly weak AvP franchise makes me sick. Alien Resurrection simply CANNOT be the last Alien installment. It sucked harder than even AvP. Whedon is a hack. That French fuck who directed it looked at the franchise as a big joke (if you don't believe that, listen to his commentary). Fincher made a great movie in Alien 3 but it wasn't the movie what Fox wanted so they cut it up and still tried to sell it as a different kind of movie, resulting in a lot of people not liking it - people going into it expecting some kind of popcorn flick. They finally got the movie they wanted in AvP, but guess what, it sucked. Do they care? No.
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I demanded an APOLOGY for Alien vs Predador!! lol. I also demand an apology for stealing the comic book story and setting it in Antarctica. I also demand an apology for butchering continuity of both films. And I demand the time that I spent watching that piece of crap returned to me immediately! ;)
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Jan 26, 2006 5:28:46 PM CST
Make it an R. Better fight scenes. Less Paul WS Anderson. Set
by tall_boy
This CAN work, dammit!
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If I were to make a sequel to AVP I'd make the Aliens intelligent, it hasn't been done yet and it makes the playing field more even. You could have scientists engineering smart aliens to fight the predators. It's the logical next step to the alien race cause up until now they operate totally on instincts.
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That way Fox can continue the trend of each Alien film being worse than the previous (that started with part 3, relax people). Other suggestions: Brett Ratner, Tony Scott, Joel Shitmaker, Tim Story, and Sean Astin (haha if you beg maybe they'll let you).
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if they put it in the hands of even a middle-of-the-road director adept at shooting action or horror. marcus nispel may have been a good choice. hacks like anderson, bartelkowiak (sp? who cares....the doom guy), etc, they ruin this shit time and time again on projects that ideally should leave me in a good mood when i leave the theater. this sequel is fucked from the word 'go', however.
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...the very forgettable Alien Ressurection, droids22, which depicted the Aliens as at least velociraptor smart with definite problem-solving capabilities (perhaps the only interesting element of that film, aside fromt he personalities of the space pirates, was the Alien escape sequence), but surely you remember Aliens, where "they cut the power?" Or what about Alien, where the single creature was able to outsmart almost the entire crew of the Nostromo (being undone in the end only by Ripley's superior specific knowledge of the escape craft's mechanics). The Aliens have been plenty smart. If you ask me, they should be more insect-like in future endeavors. Hive minded and predictable yet still formidable due to sheer numbers and tenacity.
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Jan 26, 2006 5:43:52 PM CST
So Tom Rothman is ending the X-Men franchise and revving up Alie
by 3 bag enema
Rothman plans to make X-Men: The Last Stand the last film, even though there is no Marvel franchise that has more potential to keep going with new characters and new conflicts indefinitely. And don't give me that spin-off crap. Please. He is evil, he has ruined and prematurely destroyed the X-Men on film, and now... this? Que the fucking Imperial March. This guy makes Schumacher look like Sam Raimi.
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When I meant smart I meant their own written language, and their own technology. They are for the most part instintive and use their vast numbers to overwelm an enemy. But no I didn't forget because the stuff you mentioned in the previous movies is a lot more subtle then what I was thinking about.
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And hire Lucy Liu to play the main character? Oh and maybe fucking spend a couple of bucks so that the Predator doesn't look like Lord Zed from the Power Rangers?
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What a piece of shit movie to begin with. AVP2 isn't so far-fetched if that movie got a sequal...
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Someone kill this monster and put us all out of our misery. BTW was the Big Mommas house 2 premiere a joke?
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Dutch is now the president (played by the Govinator, of course). Washington, D.C. has been overrun by the Aliens; it turns out that the Pentagon has been covertly funding the Weyland corporations bio-weapons project. Snake Pliskken(Kurt Russell) is enlisted to go in and rescue the president. Alexa Woods(Sanaa Lathan)shows up with her Predator buddy to help out. At the end of the movie, they are all running towards the camera (nicely back-lit of course). Oh and Ripley (Sigourney Weaver)is pregnant with her and Dutch's hybrid Alien baby. Make it happen Fox!
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Jan 26, 2006 6:39:06 PM CST
Movie ticket inflation: or, Why subpar sequels "outperform" the
by edison
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The title should be "Aliens Vs. Dutch & Snake: Escape from D.C."
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Meh I don't really care either way.
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that cracked me up...and now that I think about it, right on man, right on
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Jan 26, 2006 6:57:39 PM CST
If you fuckers didn't see shit like this their abortion sequ
by winterchili
FUCK
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Fuck you, Rothman.
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Jan 26, 2006 6:59:01 PM CST
I'll give you the BEST fucking writier/director team for thi
by cameron1
James Gunn and Zack Snyder, they would knock this fucker out of the park.
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Excuse me, I just vomited a little in my mouth -- purely reflex, couldn't be helped.
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robert, if your reading, i know you can go in there and pitch for this motehrfucker, and you & I both know you can get behind the wheel of this roast turkey and make it fly. Do it. Do it for me, and do it for the million fans like me, make that Predator 3 script a reality.
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They're fucking up X3, they ruined Alien a long time ago, they killed Predator with AVP, and they shat all over FF before the franchise could even get started. Hey Fox execs, go fall in a bucket of AIDS.
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Having a little problem with the English language there buddy? "Yeah, bad it know you?"
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Fox is almost as retarded as the Palestinian voters...almost.
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The Mad TV skit "Alien vs. Princess Diaries vs. Snuggles the fabric softener bear" was better than Anderson's shitfest, AvP.
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I applaud you. It takes a hefty set to write such words in TB about a PT flick. Although I didn't like it, I didn't hate this flick as I was expected to. Were I a preteen all over again, this would have been entertaining yet forgivable schlock, such as HAWK THE SLAYER, SWORD AND SORCEROR, or just about any kaiju. Sure I expect more from a sequel, but I've been conditioned to expect less. And there will be less. Let's move on.
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Because Hollywood execs must think we all fit that description.
"It's gonna be kick ass." What the fuck kind of thing is that to say? Reminds me of a guy who was interviewed making the 1998 Godzilla, he said "we make popcorn movies, we love popcorn movies." No, you make SHITTY movies. I'm giving up movies, games, tv and the interweb! -
"No budget." Which is good; at least they won't waste more money on this dreck.
AvP is the Star Wars Christmas Special of our time. If Fox had a clue, they'd get Ridley Scott back in, dump the Predator shit, and make a top-notch Alien movie again. *If.* -
Alien vs Predator vs ASH!!!!
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...TalkBack Jay Sherman says "IT'LL STINK!"
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But... but, I ordered Robocop Vs. Terminator...
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Jan 26, 2006 8:49:09 PM CST
An Alien/Brokeback featuring cameos from gay Predators (i.e. the
by performingmonkey
Bwehehehehe. Facehugger attaches itself to Heath *the stuff of motion picture history* Ledger's anus. So original doing Buttfuck Mountain jokes, don't you agree. I wish I could quit this franchise! WHY????????
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Jan 26, 2006 8:52:19 PM CST
If your gonna say "we're in the middle of a war." SHOW ME A
by kongmonkey
NOT THREE PREDATORS IN MID PUBERTY TAKING A TEST AGAINST MEDIOCRE "THAT SHIT WAS SCARY IN THE EIGHTIES" ALIENS WITH HEADS SHAPED LIKE MODERN ELECTRIC SHAVERS WITH TEETH. WITH A QUEEN BITCH THE SIZE OF A FUCKING TYRANNOSAUR! Show me what the fucking predator army looks like. Not just some amataeur teen-hunters with acid-scar fetishes. Show me some fucking space fights that would make a Star Wars fan shit their pants, an actual pred-alien that has more than a pupa cameo in the last frame, and for Gods sake. DITCH THAT BRITISH BITCH PAUL ANDERSON! He ruined Resident Evil, which if given to a guy like say...oh I dunno...GEORGE ROMERO! Could have kicked the shit out of any fucking zombie franchise on the planet. Not that that bit of info is anything new. Buncha cheap ass studio suits sucking their way to the top of the corporate world with a few slurps and spits(maybe swallows) of the head guys handyman! In the words of Rodney Dangerfield: No respect! No respect for the creativity that made hollywood what it was before the shit hit the fan.
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I can't figure out why Dark Horse Comics managed to handle these properties beautifully, and these studio hacks can't even be bothered to piggyback on the success of the comics. It was Dark Horse that breathed life back into these franchises after the initial films had been all but forgotten, and if anyone says that there'd have been an Alien 3, 4, or AVP without the comics is full of shit. 20th Century Fox fucked up big time by not adapting the Aliens: Earth War series into a film, and they dropped the fucking ball again by not properly adapting AVP from the comics. Oh boy, now they'r e giving us another "modern" AVP, so they don't have to spend any money on sets, or effects...AGAIN. Oh and be sure to give us some more of that famous Paul W.S. Anderson fight choreography too. I can't get enough of whooshing sounds used to cover up horrible action sequences. If this is as big of an improvement on the original as Resident Evil: Apocalypse was on it's predecessor, than count me the fuck out and fire the exec who greenlights this shitball.
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Jan 26, 2006 8:59:37 PM CST
Oh and has anyone bothered with the so called "unrated directors
by scytheofluna
I saw it at HMV the other day and laughed at the $30 price tag...
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to the Cameron / Scott joint effort on the franchise?
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Jan 26, 2006 9:12:07 PM CST
The worst part is that AVP actually borrowed a few themes from t
by scytheofluna
The female protagonist was loosely based on a character (I believe her name was Mariko Noguchi) from one of the AVP comics. It's been a decade since I read it, but as I remember she was the sole survivor of a human colony that was unknowingly nestled in a hunting ground. The Predators had infected creatures native to the environment, and waited for the creatures to gestate so they could come back for the hunt. Mariko was actually made a member of the tribe by a "Broken Tusked" Predator, and at the end of the book that I read she was actually accepted into the clan. Had they actually bothered to properly adapt this story instead of lifting bits and pieces they might have had something... Too bad they're more concerned with ensuring that 13 year olds can see it in the theatre, than with satisfying the fans who have kept these franchises alive for two decades. Soulless pig fuckers.
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Jan 26, 2006 9:14:51 PM CST
BRING SINGER IN TO MAKE A REINVISIONED SEQUEL TO THE SECOND ALIE
by shermdawg
Ripley, Hicks, and Newt, twenty years later. I just read the titles of the previous posts so I don't know if anyone brought this up, and if no one has, WHY THE FUCK NOT???
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First is the tagline - 'who ever wins.... we lose'. THIS HAD NO CONTEXT IN THE FILM! Therefore it was a bullshit line thrown on the poster to instill some sort of hope that there was a majoy battle that would be won by either franchise and that would then spill out onto we the humans - but it wouldn't because it would destroy what 'Alien' was. And what about the fact that when 1 predator dies, an alien dies right down to the last. So no one won. Well, the Alien kinda won because it was the last to die, and we got an Alien/Predator hybred for the closing shot. (That was sorta cool) (But it was also sorta shit) And that escape at the end. THAT. WAS. FUCKED. Call me old fashionedbut I like an action escape to be somewhat of an action paced exciting escape. But that explosion as they're being pulled back up to the surface was just..... it was just........ what was it?? Personally I just want a hard core Alien Vs predator film with no actors. Just the creatures on a strange alien world. Predators seeding it and then going in for the hunt. No diologue. No bad actors. Just all monsters! & shit.
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"A vs P was the first time ever where the game was better than the movie"...... You really haven't heard of Uwe Boll have you?.. I envy you brother.
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How about this one. Renegade Special Forces Team, or some ex-black ops team gets into the opium/drug trade while in Afghanistan or someplace. They work their way over to Southeast Asia, into the Iron Triangle. Make up some fake country with drug-funded insurgents fighting a drug funded dictatorship. Stick this team of ex-soldiers, in the middle of the mess seeking some illicit private-sector profit. Add one of those abandoned cities in the middle of the Jungle, that turns out to have been created or inspired by ancient Predator overlords. Throw in a large Predator hunting party, drawn by the jungle, heat, and strife. Tah-Dah!
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Isn't it called the Golden Triangle? Are you confusing it with the Iron Curtain?
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Oops. I think you're right. Well, wherever it is in SE Asia. I think Burma is one of the countries.
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Jan 26, 2006 10:33:20 PM CST
wtf! this is bullcrap! why can't they make movies where chic
by orionsangels
http://www.youtube.com/w/girl-fight-12?v=L6ByQA597p0&search=i%20love%20girls
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Let the projectiles fly (and Jenna Jameson, Chasey Lane, etc catch said projectiles with their mouth!!!) CINEMATIC GOLD!!!
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This has always pissed me off. All the emphasis on the fucking face hugging gut busting Sigourney Weaver acid filled punching bags and not a single fucking word about the FUCKING ALIEN SPACESHIP the franchise critters were originally found on. Go back to the original and follow this thread for a trilogy of films. Can't be any worse than this present crap.
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Jan 26, 2006 11:25:25 PM CST
Big Mama wasn't a bad film and it made a lot of money, and
by the founder
I don't know why people here b!tch and moan about got d@mn BM2?? I'll never understand why Harry even mentions a film of this genre on this site. For the most part the target demographic for that film doesn't even surf this site. I'm not going to come down on the film cause i did see the first one and it was entertaining, and I suspect the 2nd one will be as well. i'll be seeing it.
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Jan 26, 2006 11:32:20 PM CST
The Founder said: "I'll never understand why Harry even ment
by iamlegolas
Agreed, he should just stick to the "geek" stuff, sometimes it seems like EVERYTHING needs to pass through here. Hello? This is Ain't-It-Cool-News, not YAHOO! Movies.
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Your single idea of an AVP movie with NO human actors whatsover is pure genius! This would remove the bad acting often done by good actors when they appear in bad films, thus saving their careers for the time being. We wouldn't have to put up with horrible dialogue or piss-poor exposition. I'm sure the budget that is usually spent on actors could be moved over to make the special effects even better. The best part of it is, it would be a great opportunity to see more of the Predator culture, and how they prepare for the hunt. Just follow a team of Predator's, almost documentary-style, but not so "Blair Witchy" or anything, as they go on a hunt against a hive of Aliens. I know I'd be in the theater to see it.
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And when I say I'd be in the theater to see it, I mean to say I would be there to see it with a more positive expectation, unlike when I (almost against my will) end up going to see AvP2... I can't stop myself, and I am ashamed. Someone send me to Bad-Movies Anonymous!
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Jan 27, 2006 12:05:44 AM CST
hate to interrupt this scintillating discussion, but HOLY SHIT E
by mrboinfoint
Hotter than she looked even at her 90's prime. Yowza. I now return you to your crappy sequel whining bullshit.
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lets bring back Ah-nuld!!
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Jan 27, 2006 1:18:09 AM CST
If they have a good writer (I think Anderson is not really bad a
by derlanghaarige
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named Myanmar now?
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after AVP 1 your gonna make another??? what did we do to deseve this????
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and then the guy could just reply "Beats the shit outta me..."
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Groovy...
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They may have been able to get away with that in the first film but it's going to seriously fuck up the continuity of the ALIEN series if they decide to bring them into our universe. Would it really be that much more expensive to set the film on a distant planet? You could set it on a barren rock like in the comics and have the fighting take place on a small colony or something. The Predators fit perfectly in the Alien universe, not the other way around.
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Jan 27, 2006 4:31:43 AM CST
"Yeah, uh, they just got the script, they just got the script, w
by salvatoregravano
Anderscum wants it to be "APA: Alien / Predator: Apocalypse". I would prefer it to be "Alien / Predator: Evolution". Or "Extreme".
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...because of you stupid assholes another one is being made. I hope your all forced to watch it with spikes up your asses and your eyelids taped open. anyone expecting anything about shit from PWS Anderson is retarded and should be dragged out behind the shed and fucking shot. fuck you.
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What kind of world indeed. What if the Aliens were like cave dwelling bugs on the Predator homeworld. Or a sister world to the Predators. People get paid big money to come up with these ideas. I'm wasted on you guys. and by wasted no one said anything about drugs. ok.
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Jan 27, 2006 7:23:11 AM CST
"A vs P was the first time ever where the game was better than t
by godoffireinhell
so you haven't seen/played resident evil, house of the dead, alone in the dark, bloodrayne, mortal kombat, super mario bros and street fighter?
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I thought it was very well done. It was also as equally entertaining as the first. As a matter of fact, you could call UNDERWORLD 2 an extension of the first. 'Picks right up where the first left off. I can see where some people might not dig it though. Neither film has a traditional film structure. The UNDERWORLD series is more like a serial than anything. There's really no development storywise. You basically pick up right in the middle of the action like you never actually left. It kinda reminds me of DARK SHADOWS, only with...drool...drool...Beckinsale in tight leather outfits. There's a whole soap opera-ish feel to it. That said, the first ALIEN VS PREDATOR was terrible. Maybe they should just cast the entire World Wrestling Federation next time and get it over with. The whole thing can be one huge cage match. They can then do tag teams with Freddy and Jason. Kill two big versus movie sequels at once. 'Get equally bad actors and an equally bad storyline and there you go. Maybe we can get the guy who directed DUDE WHERE'S MY CAR to direct.
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AVP or She-Hulk Vs. Mary Worth. Hard to tell what is the "Worst series ever"
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Jan 27, 2006 8:15:19 AM CST
Harry's Version of "AvP 2" "Everything's better with ass
by jackrabbitslim
And really - can ya blame him?
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Been gone from the internet a few days and this happens? Fox has made some painfully bad decisions in the past, but this is the most redundant sequel since Home Alone 3 (which should've been done by Tarantino to be interesting). The fact that Rothman smiles is because he signed a pact with the Prince of Darkness himself to fund this shit. Or will this be the Godfather Part II of the direct-to-DVD sequels? It doesn't take much to make a better movie than the first one. But Fox will manage to fuck that up too by hiring someone like McG, Bay or Boll to do the honours.
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They need to throw the current script in the bin and come up with a good premise with a good writer. Fox has money, right? Hire a good scriptwriter! It's not that hard if you use CASH and a bit of guts. Then show the GOOD script around to directors who would otherwise not use it to wipe their pimply arses, and impress them. Everything seems to be rush rush rush! Gotta get this out for 2007, QUICK! Why waste time writing a script when you can do it while the sets are being cobbled together? I hate this kind of film. I hope this film makes Fox nothing and they actually learn from their mistakes. But people will buy the tickets nonetheless despite knowing that they'll hate it. And it's not geeks like us who make these money-loving, art-hating FUCKHEADS money; it's the idiot chavs and chavesses who want to watch something mindless and pedestrian but with tonnes of loud noises and a bit of cleavage. Can't we have an Alien movie that's actually SCARY??? Of course not, that would take effort. FUCK Fox and especially FUCK PWS Anderson.
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Definitely Lucy Liu for Mariko Noguchi; even if Lucy's crowding forty, it won't matter. Not if you hire AISHWARYA RAI as Miriam Revna!.
And filming this near White Sands New Mexico would be easy. That and/or the Alberta badlands. Also, whoever mentioned Rodriguez is right on. GREEN SCREEN the expensive parts; just make such we can watch the fight scenes blow-by-blow. -
Jan 27, 2006 1:54:02 PM CST
On the contrary the last thing Anderson needs to handle is actio
by scytheofluna
He has a great sense of sci fi style, and the imagery in his films is always top notch, but in the writing department he has his head up his ass. Event Horizon and Soldier are probably the best examples of this. Even the first Resident Evil would have been decent, had they changed the names, and not tried to loosley tie it to the game franchise. His problem is that he's far too fixated on the look of his projects, and pays far too little attention to the story or acting. His whooshing sound effects, merely cover up bad fight choreography, and his stunt coordinators have thus far been hacks.
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end of story.. Alien Vs Predator 2: The Transvestite Predator and Pig Ugly Alien Lovers
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... by having the aliens breed inside Emperor Penguins! Now were talking..!
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Jan 27, 2006 5:18:53 PM CST
I suppose I can wait, and, wait, and wait, infact...............
by rockket
..........why can I not just take 6 drops of that stuff which Ash took in Army of Darkness that lets you wake up 600 years later. Then, the aphrodisiac, Parapin 90,will be ready, and, with help of trusty time machine from 2600 ad I can go back to that Antartic temple, sprinkle some on proceedings and let the muttherfukkurs screw eachother to death - RESULT!!
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Jan 27, 2006 5:34:03 PM CST
Harry, "You know what happens when a painfully mediocre film bas
by immortal_fish
That's some optimism fo yo ass. I'd expected AvP to be piss poor. When I caught it ojn cable, I was surpised to find it wasn't that bad. Sure, there were some rediculous beats -- such as a face hugger gestating a human host within seconds, a bughead shield that doesn't liquefy your hand, and the horrid stereotypes abound -- but overall the flick was still entertaining. I wouldn't have felt robbed had I paid the box orifice to see it. It wasn't a Toilet Boll movie by any stretch. Besides, it had a STRONG FEMALE LEAD!! And many wimpy supporting male characters, which is always cinema gold. I suggest the sequel also include the always bankable STRONG FEMALE LEAD!! In fact, let's explore the Predator society a bit in this, since we all know that the bugs have their version of a STRONG FEMALE LEAD!! built into canon. We need a Predator queen to complete the hatrick of STRONG FEMALE LEAD!! in this franchise.
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Jan 27, 2006 6:00:06 PM CST
rotten 666, "If you enjoyed AVP 1 I hope you get aids and die."
by immortal_fish
Well, fuck you very much, asshole. I hope you fall face first into a puddle of cancer and your entire family boards a bus that explodes. This is *SO* unlike me! Allow me to repent by paraphrasing a wise man who once said, "Im sorry. I really try not to flame people on the talkbacks. I really try to appreciate the fact that people have diffeent opinions. I believe in tolerence; I also believe that if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all." It's that last bit that really makes me well up in tears...
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I can't figure that out. That one friendly one was barely taller than the chick. Did they think that would make them scarier? Could they not find any tall people?
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King Kong and the Hulk as gay lovers. Now that's a movie worth watching!
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Predator 2 was shit. Oh, wait...
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"Bigfoot on a Plane" done Bollywood style.
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Jan 28, 2006 6:52:55 AM CST
I like the way the AvP apologists only dare to compare it to Ali
by raw_bean
Have the balls to step up and compare it to Alien, or Aliens, or even Predator, and still try and defend it . Go on, I dare you. ---- Good Lord this is depressing news.
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even the flawed Alien3 and the cheesy and VERY eighties Predator 2 shit all over AvP, anyway. The only comparison I won't make is between Resurrection and AvP, because that would involve me rewatching A:R again for the first tie in years, and probably, to be fair, getting hold of a better download of AvP that doesn't cut out fifteen minutes from the end without it even bothering me that I don't get to see it all.
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What has happened to Fox?!! About time Jim Cameron got Battle Angel up and running and reminds everyone what a great sci-fi film can really be like...
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Jan 28, 2006 8:22:35 AM CST
I just saw 'sky captain & the world of tomorrow'. I act
by bendersshinyass
WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!!
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I would have prefered the 'Alien3 was all a dream' Alien4..... But for what it was, I accepted it. And I just fucking love the actual Alien. It was used well in Alien4. And the whole film has a real locked in a solid world feel. I also think it had some good gore in it. Gooey yucky gross out gore. And everytime it's like the audiance is supposed to laugh. It's the Batman Forever of the Alien films! Alien 3 is the Batman Begins. AVP is the Batman & Robin! Thank you for sitting this lesson.
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Neither franchise is in great shape - Alien 3 and 4, and Predator 2 did lower the bar already. AvP is about as entertaining (and brainless) as those, but we all know it could have been much more. Still, since the name is tarnished, what harm could it do? There is always the chance, slight though it may be, that they will eventually get it right.
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Jan 28, 2006 11:41:28 AM CST
if the worthless shit isn't involved, it might be okay. it&
by chief redcock
though personally, i'm still waiting for batman versus predator. how 'bout it nolan? hmmmmm?
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who cares about AVP2? i wanna see alien 5 directed by Sir Ridley Scott, a prequel about how that space ship full of eggs got to LV-426....
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What a boring movie. Before they meet the monsers it was just bad acting, bad music, bad cinematography. Oh, and after they meet the monsters everything is still bad. I would have no problem with a sequel if they had a good team working on it, but I doubt they will. I don't understand why FOX treated this series as a throw-away.
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