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The CW!! UPN and The WB Merging Into One Network!!!!

I am – Hercules.

CBS and Warner Bros. will be shutting down UPN and the WB in September to start a new network called CW! Crazy Weird!! Could Work!!

Look! A press release!


Each Company To Hold 50% Interest In The CW Television Network

Tribune Broadcasting and CBS Corporation Stations Agree To 10-Year Affiliation Agreements Covering 48% Of The Country

New Television Network To Utilize the Best Programming from CBS Corporation and Warner Bros.

Dawn Ostroff Is Tapped As President of Entertainment At The New Network; John Maatta Will Be Chief Operating Officer

The WB and UPN to Cease Operations in September 2006

January 24, 2006 (New York, NY) — CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. Entertainment today announced their intent to form a new 5th network, The CW, to be launched in the fall of 2006. The new broadcasting network will be a joint venture between Warner Bros. Entertainment and CBS Corporation, with each company owning 50%. In an important strategic move that secures major market distribution for The CW, it was announced that Tribune Broadcasting and the CBS Corporation's UPN affiliates have agreed separately to sign 10-year affiliation agreements with the new network.

The announcement for the new network was made today in New York by Leslie Moonves, President and Chief Executive Officer of CBS Corporation and Barry Meyer, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Warner Bros. Entertainment. The Tribune Broadcasting affiliation agreements were announced by Dennis FitzSimons, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of Tribune Company.

At the same time, it was announced that CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. Entertainment will cease operations of their respective networks -- UPN and The WB. The WB and UPN will continue to broadcast their respective network schedules independently until the fall.

The combination of Tribune's 16 major market stations and the 12 CBS-owned UPN major market affiliates give The CW instant coverage in 48% of the country. The remainder of the network's distribution system will be a combination of selected current UPN and The WB stations. The full distribution of the new network is expected to exceed 95% of the country.

Dawn Ostroff, currently President of UPN, will become President of Entertainment and John Maatta, currently Chief Operating Officer of The WB, will become Chief Operating Officer of The CW.

"This new network will serve the public with high-quality programming and maintain our ongoing commitment to our diverse audience," said Moonves. "It will clearly be greater than the sum of its parts, delivering excellent demographics to advertisers, and building a strong new affiliate body. Additionally, The CW will be able to draw from the creative talent and production resources from the top two television production studios in the business, while also seeking programming from all sources -- independent producers or other studios. With this move, we will be creating a viable entity, one well-equipped to compete, thrive and serve all our many publics in this multi-channel media universe. I'd like to thank Dawn Ostroff and all the talented people at UPN who have worked so hard. For many years UPN had financial losses, but under CBS's guidance, UPN has been able to effect a dramatic creative turnaround in a short period of time."

"This new network makes sound business and creative sense at every level -- for our viewers, advertisers, affiliates and for the shareholders of our companies," said Meyer. "Every key constituency of the network will now greatly benefit from this combination by being part of a highly rated, competitive, 5th broadcast network that is financially sound. As we form this new joint venture, we are also very pleased that in Dawn and John we have a management team of great creative vision and business acumen, one that will help to guide it successfully forward."

"This is a very exciting day for Time Warner and its shareholders in the creation of what we believe will be a very strong and viable 5th broadcast television network," said Jeff Bewkes, President & Chief Operating Officer of Time Warner. "This new network will have all the strategic asset value as an outlet for our programming that The WB presented us, but with a much firmer and more secure financial present and future. The credit goes to Barry Meyer, who continues to have tremendous vision and extraordinary business acumen as the long time leader of Warner Bros. Entertainment, a company that we are proud to say continues to be number one in its class."

"This is a great day for Tribune and its shareholders, and we are pleased to be the lead affiliate group of what will be a strong network," said FitzSimons. "We could not have had a better partner than Warner Bros. and Barry Meyer since we together launched The WB 11 years ago. Now, with the ownership role of CBS Corporation and the leadership of Leslie Moonves added to the mix, Tribune's viewers and advertisers will benefit from an even stronger programming lineup."

The 16 Tribune affiliated stations will include New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Washington, D.C., Houston, Miami, Denver, St. Louis, Portland, Indianapolis, San Diego, Hartford, New Orleans and Albany. The 12 CBS Station Group television markets will include Philadelphia, San Francisco, Atlanta, Detroit, Tampa, Seattle, Sacramento, Pittsburgh, West Palm Beach, Norfolk, Oklahoma City and Providence. Together, these top two station groups cover the top 13 television markets, 20 of the top 25 television markets and have a total coverage area of more than 48% of the country.

The CW will incorporate The WB's current scheduling model, which consists of a 6 night-13 hour primetime lineup including Monday through Friday nights from 8-10 (EST/PST); Sundays from 7-10 (EST/PST); Sunday from 5-7 (EST/PST) outside of primetime as well as a Monday thru Friday afternoon block from 3-5 (EST/PST) and a 5-hour Saturday morning animation block. Together, the network will program 30 hours a week over seven days for its affiliated stations.

As the top creative executive, Ostroff will have available a line-up of some of the most popular programming that appeals to young adults in the media business. These programming assets range from hit reality series such as "America's Next Top Model" and The WB's "Beauty and the Geek," to hit dramas like The WB's "Smallville," "Gilmore Girls," "Supernatural," and UPN's "Veronica Mars" as well as UPN's hit comedies "Everybody Hates Chris" and "Girlfriends" and The WB's hit comedy "Reba." In addition the WWE's "Smackdown," which has been a mainstay at UPN, is expected to play a role in the schedule.

In addition, The CW will also broadcast the schedule of children's programming now known as Kids' WB!, a 5-hour original programming block on Saturday mornings from 7:00 am-Noon, considered primetime for kids. Kids' WB! has been the broadcast network ratings champion since Fall 2000, capturing 16 consecutive sweep victories as the Number One Saturday morning kids' broadcaster.

All programming, marketing, scheduling, publicity and research functions will report to Ostroff.

Maatta will be responsible for the network's business operations. Bill Morningstar, The WB's Executive Vice President of Advertising Sales will become the head of sales reporting to Maatta. Other responsibilities that will report to Maatta include business affairs, network distribution, legal, finance and human resources.

Meyer added: "This could not have happened without the tremendous energy and talent of Bruce Rosenblum, President of Warner Bros. Television Group and Nancy Tellem at CBS who worked tirelessly and cohesively together to make this new network a reality. I would also like to thank Dennis FitzSimons, who saw the great opportunity this new network presents for the Tribune Company and who continues to be one of the great professionals and broadcasters in the business today."

Moonves added: "This idea becomes a reality only when a great station group like Tribune comes on board with us and delivers the powerful reach a new network requires. With formidable flagship Tribune stations in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, a great CBS line-up of owned and operated UPN stations, and strong affiliates from every available market, The CW launches as a strong competitor to the Big Four, and that's good for our business, for the viewing audience, and for free, over the air broadcasting. It is also good news for our shareholders, who will benefit from a much stronger business model, improved economics for our stations and new opportunities for our production businesses."

CBS Corporation (NYSE: CBS.A and CBS) is a mass media company with constituent parts that reach back to the beginnings of the broadcast industry, as well as newer businesses that operate on the leading edge of the media industry. The Company, through its many and varied operations, combines broad reach with well-positioned local businesses, all of which provide it with an extensive distribution network by which it serves audiences and advertisers in all 50 states and key international markets. It has operations in virtually every field of media and entertainment, including broadcast television (CBS and UPN), cable television (Showtime), local television (CBS Television Stations), television production and syndication (CBS Paramount Television and King World), radio (CBS Radio), advertising on out-of-home media (CBS Outdoor), publishing (Simon & Schuster), theme parks (Paramount Parks), digital media (CBS Digital Media Group and CSTV Networks) and consumer products (CBS Consumer Products). For more information, log on to

Warner Bros. Entertainment, a fully-integrated, broad-based entertainment company, is a global leader in the creation, production, distribution, licensing and marketing of all forms of entertainment and their related businesses. Warner Bros. Entertainment, a Time Warner Company, stands at the forefront of every aspect of the entertainment industry, from feature films to television, home video/DVD, animation, comic books, interactive entertainment and games, product and brand licensing, international cinemas and broadcasting.

TRIBUNE (NYSE:TRB) is one of the country's top media companies, operating businesses in publishing and broadcasting. It reaches more than 80 percent of U.S. households and is the only media organization with newspapers, television stations and websites in the nation's top three markets. In publishing, Tribune operates 11 leading daily newspapers including the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune and Newsday, plus a wide range of targeted publications such as Spanish-language Hoy. The company's broadcasting group operates 26 television stations, Superstation WGN on national cable, Chicago's WGN-AM and the Chicago Cubs baseball team. Popular news and information websites complement Tribune's print and broadcast properties and extend the company's nationwide audience.

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  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Crap Merges!

    by ScreamingPenis

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by rotten666

    who cares?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by velum

    As for the story who cares, I never watch UPN or the WB

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Or third

    by velum

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:37 a.m. CST

    so does this mean aquaman is going to be black??

    by rotten666

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Wow...yeah, what is the fate of all of our fav WB shows like SMA

    by aceattorney


  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:38 a.m. CST

    It means all the boring Star Trek will be on one channel.

    by cookylamoo

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    This is wild

    by Media Fiend

    The other Nets must be freaking out. Hopefully this will mean even more genre programming. And HERC, you got your e-mail and the story link transposed.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    hey, i'm young and ethnic!

    by newc0253

    by which i mean i'm white and 36. does this mean the new channel will appeal to me? i'd read the article but right now the only place the link is taking me is herc's email address.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Up until 6 months ago

    by Bass Ackwards

    They already were one station here.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    welcome to the CW, bitches

    by newc0253

    it had to be said.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:41 a.m. CST

    It sounds like equal billing...

    by RaylanGivens

    ...but basically this is just the WB snatching up VERONICA MARS and EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS. Which is cool, as long as they don't tinker with MARS.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Well... hmm

    by Spice-Orange

    I have to say that "CW" sounds really strange. But consitering that WB and UPN are always on the fringe of beating out the other networks with ratings, this will be good for both companies. Joey got its ass handed to him by Smallville on thursdays, so expect more of that. UPN's black (erm... sorry "ethnic") entertainment will continue, but now with Gilmores, Superman, One Tree and the reality shows (Model and Geek) Sounds like an interesting switch up. NBC is SO screwed. quick! do another apprentice! wait- no! call Joe Rogen! he'll save the day! /NBC sucks

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:54 a.m. CST

    As long as Veronica Mars isn't fucked with...

    by DanielKurland

    Hopefully this will even increase it's viewership, but if, by any means, this deal screws aroung with VM (Head of UPN loves it, but what if the head at WB doesn't), I'll be quite pissed. This show is too good to have something go wrong with it.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:58 a.m. CST

    I guess this means when WB sold Buffy to UPN they were basically

    by seppukudkurosawa

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:58 a.m. CST


    by Nairb The Movie

    So the WB sucks and UPN sucks and now they join forces to create a Conglomerate of Suck the likes the world have never seen before... since SPIKE! was launched...

  • Jan. 24, 2006, noon CST

    in other news:

    by newc0253

    they're apparently making a magnum pi movie:

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:01 p.m. CST

    So no more Black Monday?

    by Big Bad Clone

    I hope The WB just adds Chris, Mars and Gilrfriends. No need to bring that shitty model show, unless they cancel Charmed for it.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:02 p.m. CST

    From a business standpoint, not a bad idea

    by chrth

    It'll be interesting to see how it works out.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Goodbye, Gilmore Girls

    by Lorien

    They will cancel it. White scion of wealthy insurance magnate and her daughter at Yale, who dates ... isn't ethnic.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Why Do I Imagine It Was A 50 Year Old White Guy In A Suite Who C

    by flamingrunt

    Like the kids who clean his pool i guess

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST

    SHIT + SHIT =

    by El Scorcho

    DOBULE SHIT!!!!!!

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Does this mean

    by Quin the Eskimo

    clarks black friend, and apparently the only black person in Kansas Sam Jones III makes a comeback?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:22 p.m. CST

    i agree

    by dubsy

    heads will roll is they cancel veronica mars

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:25 p.m. CST

    who the fuck cares? both of those networks chew doggie chunks.

    by Chief Redcock

    They gave poop a bad name. The only thing that made this article worth reading was the link to the Alan Moore anthology. Thanks for that, at least...

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST


    by ATARI

    Now instead of removing two channels from my surfing list, I only need to remove one.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:31 p.m. CST

    i wondered about that too, fred. and what the hell is robin doi

    by Chief Redcock

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:33 p.m. CST

    this sucks

    by JackDonkey

    the 2 networks that let strange shows have a chance is now cutting the time available for those shows in half :( and beuty and the geek sucks, if it weren't for them thinking Richard should get most screen time last season I wouldv'e watched at least 10 minutes of this season.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:34 p.m. CST

    2 networks, 10 viewers, no 1 cares

    by Heckles

    Bleh. A pox on the WB and UPN.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Hopefully this means

    by Quin the Eskimo

    I will never see Reba McEntire again. Ever.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Brannon Braga to merge with Tim Minear

    by snowpuff

    "This new human will serve the public with high-quality programming and maintain our ongoing commitment to our diverse audience," said Moonves. "It... he will clearly be greater than the sum of his parts. With this move, we will be creating a viable entity, one well-equipped to compete, thrive and serve all our many publics in this multi-channel media universe."

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Two words, Hercules...

    by Elmore Rigby

    "Line spacing". I feel like I have to go to the optometrist after trying to read that.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:45 p.m. CST

    I thought they were already the same network...

    by Drebin

    Shit TV. My rods and cones are all screwed up after reading that.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Get ready for an "Urban" Star Trek project

    by fiester

    "Yo, beams me up some bitches, a'wight?" "Aye, muthafuckin', aye dawg." "Then make it so, bitch!"

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Maybe I don't watch enough TV, but I'd already considere

    by jollysleeve

    Is this news supposed to make my head spin? This is like screaming "LINDSAY LOHAN and ASHLEE SIMPSON ARE GOING ON TOUR TOGETHER TO PROMOTE THEIR CRAPPY ALBUMS!!!" and expect people's response to be, "OMG that's crazy! I can SO not imagine those two on the same stage! They're like totally different!"

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    So will we get a Gunn the Straight Up Vampire Killer show now?

    by Big Bad Clone

    "Man, I'm getting to old to kill all these vampires"

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:56 p.m. CST

    What about New Orleans?

    by leesheri

    Will we still have WB? I like Supernatural and sometimes Smallville. I am so confused.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Herc, do we dare dream of back2back Gilmore Girls & Veronica Mar

    by Sequitur

    I'm as giddy as the 14 year old school girl I pretend to be on the internet!!

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Well I just read that under this deal they will be in 95% of US

    by Mr. Profit

    Because a lot of our faves could experience a ridiculously increased viewership when September's new season begins. Currently the channels are only seen by few people because seperately their quality has been suspect, and they dont have enough affiliates. Also expect many shows to be on the chopping block. You can only assume that Top Model, Chris, Veronica Mars, Smackdown, Reba, Gilmore Girls, Supernatural, and Smallville are safe. Because they are either decently rated of have acclaim. And all the urban/black jokes are stupid since Fox started out the same way as UPN and look at Fox now. I'm sure this new network is a good opportunity to be a real contender, and it will be one of the few strictly targeted to ther 18-34 demo. CBS is smart, they already got all the old folk.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:02 p.m. CST

    And remember about the shows that are going to be bought for Fal

    by Mr. Profit

    They haven't even announced their new pilot pick ups or new fall 2006 shows. And with this being a bigger audience grabbing network now, expect people going to them to pitch their shows instead of saving them for last when the big 4 turn them down. And NBC IS fucked.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:02 p.m. CST

    The "Urban" thing

    by Dmann

    is probably dead now. UPN only kept it up for one reason, the FCC allowed Viacom/CBS Corp an exemption to the rules against one corporate entity owning two networks because of their "constant dedication to diverse ethnic programming" which basically means, they were the plays where Black folks got to have the worst sitcoms on air. Now, with them being diversified of half the holdings in the new merged network, look for more and more pretty teenagers, some well written, some atrociously written.

  • That will be incorporating Smallville, Reba, One Tree Hill, Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars, WWE Smackdown, and Supernatural? Does this make any kind of sense? Being African American myself, I am pretty sure these don't really totally appeal to my cultural sensibilities. But then again, look at what kind of crap we are given in the name of "black entertainment" Bernie Mac = Good, Chris Rock = Good, Cedric = Good, Moesha = not so good, Girlfriends = really not good, Eve = trying to get me to watch simply due to black unity. How about this for the CW. Good writing, with stories that appeal across cultural and sterotypical boundaries, and feature a diverse cast, for example Lost = good, My Name Is Earl = good, ER = good. It's not hard to do here. I'm tired of being pandered to simply because I am black man. Treat me like an adult, and treat me like I'm smart. If UPN had done that to begin with, maybe I'd have watched them. But when you're basing your potential audience on the "Showtime at the Apollo" crowd, you are really in trouble. At best, this will be a mix of standard network "white entertainment" with a bone thrown to black people in the form of some lame-ass programming like LL Cool J's Man of The House, until they realize that there is no money in minority programing. Then we will be looking at more Joey types of shows on the CW. I give it another decade before it hits them that quality knows no colors.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST

    18 to 34 means more Genre programming......

    by Mr. Profit

    And Chris is not a shitty show. Also Girlfriends is a well liked show in the Black Community. But expect EVE, CUTS, Love Inc, Half and Half, and the 2 other black comedies to be GONE. Also expect Fran, Twins, and What I Like About You axed.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Dogs and cats, living together...

    by Christopher3


  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:13 p.m. CST

    I would expect

    by Dmann

    That the new network is going to focus on programming that appeals to 18-34 year old women. Its what works for both netlets in the past. 2 of the 3 succesful shows, critically and ratings wise for UPN have been "girl" shows (that pick up a fringe male demo), and WB has basically made their whole network into appealing to that demo of women. It has been shown time and time again that the way for a "black" show to work is to appeal to the crossover demographic. Bernie Mac, Chris, A Different World, Cosby, on and on, were shows primarily filled with black cast members, but they didnt feel the need to be "urban ethnic". They focused on family, being different overall, and well, being good and funny. It may be that TV ratings come from showing that we arent all that different after all.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:17 p.m. CST

    why it's good

    by MrD

    First, one less network, which means fewer homes for crappy shows. They may be able to create a half respectable network from the remains. Second, as many point out, it may give a boost to shows that deserve better viewership. I never watch UPN, so just out of habit I never checked out Veronica Mars. Now that it'll get some adverts during Smallville and Supernatural, I may remember to tune in.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:18 p.m. CST

    "18-34 year old women"

    by newc0253

    does that include hot lesbian 18-34 year old women? because i'd be into watching that.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Why it's not

    by MrD

    I'm a 35 year old conservative white guy, so maybe I'm not the most informed on the topic, but I have to think this hurts the chances for both black and genre television. I would love to think that people will watch good shows, but statistics show that isn't the case (for example, very little overlap occurs between the between the top 10 shows among whites and blacks). So UPN and the WB were providing a service to smaller markets (African American and genre fans) in the US. As long as they stayed small networks, a strong appeal to 10-20% of the public could probably sustain them. But by expanding to a bigger scale, they're going to need to cast their net a bit wider to remain profitable, which probably means more shows that appeal to the majority audience. So get ready for new episodes of Cops Using Science to Fight Crime.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:29 p.m. CST

    WTF does CW stand for?

    by KoozyK

    Is it suppose to be CBS and WB = CW? I don't know. Columbia-Warner Network? Doesn't seem right. Who really cares anymore...

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Interesting. I guess they'll keep all the highest rated sho

    by minderbinder

    So I guess one or the other station will go away in most areas, with all shows going to the remaining one? I assume some parts of the country may lose the network, that will be a bummer for people hooked on any current shows. To be honest, I don't watch anything on either of these two networks.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:30 p.m. CST

    This has to be the influence of Mayor Nagin

    by cromulent

    Mix chocolate and milk and you get a delicious drink. AND a delicious network.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Well then BET needs to step up it's game then....

    by Mr. Profit

    It's insulting that it's assumed just because a show is black or latino I'm going to watch. I think blacks and latinos have very good roles on very good shows that are on now. Grey's Anatomy is a fine example of a show that has a diverse cast of good actors. Lost is another. I feel that networks are on the right track with the way they are diversifying their audiences correctly and not doing it in a stupid and obvious way. Invasion features a Latino main character and it doesn't make a fuss about it. But they smartly throw little hints and things the character does to let you know who he is.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Keep the WB's announcer for commercials...

    by Sherman_Lives

    You know, the one who kind of sounds like an older Leon Redbone, who sounds like his cheeks are deflated? He says "The Double-You Bee" like it has eight B's and L's in it. I would like them to keep him just so he can say, "it's a new Beauty and the Geek, on the See Double You." Come to think of it, is he still working for the WB? And who is that guy, anyway? I've heard him do voiceovers for pro-Bush radio ads. Work is work, I guess...

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:34 p.m. CST

    CW will stand for Colossal Waste

    by FluffyUnbound

    All I know is that I don't want to have to listen to my wife complain if something happens to Gilmore Girls and/or America's Next Top Model because of this merger. Please God, send the deafness angel to my house if that happens.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST


    by OptimusPrimeTime

    They already tried 'urban' Star Trek; have you forgotten the epic that was "Homeboys in Outer Space?" ....Wish I could. As far as the merger goes, I just hope that they give Veronica Mars a timeslot that doesn't bump up against another network's Top-rated Show (Lost), and try to build it's audience....the show should fit in nicely with the WB programming. Also, don't forget that the Fox Network first carved out a niche with black audiences (Martin, Living Single, In Living Color, etc.) only to scale back on that when their other shows found a larger audience (Simpsons, X-Files, Married w/ Children, etc.) I'd have to expect the CW network to do likewise.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:37 p.m. CST

    The Death of Everwood

    by Krangelus

    Anyone notice everwoods complete lack of mention. I'l be pissed if it doesnt make it.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:48 p.m. CST

    no angel tv movies

    by Krangelus

    anyone else think this is just the wb trying to get out of making those Angel tv movies. Now they dont fucking exist so theirs no obligations.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Bottom line...

    by Kid Z

    ... WB and UPN will disappear from my Comcast service, along with the shows I like, such as Supernatural, et al. Then maybe... a year or so down the line, those bastards will up my monthly rate... AGAIN(!)... and add "CW" to the line up. Guess I can completely forget about seeing it in HD anytime in the foreseeable future as well... Thanks SO much, Lester... and by the way Comcast, "... we're not finished yet, Zeke!"

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Their new logo will be so big, it will cover your entire TV scre

    by cookylamoo

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:52 p.m. CST


    by quadrupletree

    Who cares? Does this really justify GIANT BOLD LETTERS ON THE HOMEPAGE??? Who gives a shit.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 1:54 p.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    Even their website was rubbish.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Perhaps they should call it BorgWarner to highlight their respec

    by TheMatarife

    That's taken, maybe they'll have to start selling automatic transmissions and turbocharges.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Kid Z

    by FluffyUnbound

    As long as the broadcast affiliates remain with the new network, your cable company can't take them away or put them on a new tier of service. Aren't the cable companies required to carry all local broadcast stations in their basic package? If not, your state legislature kind of let you down, there.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:15 p.m. CST

    This has the potential to be the shittiest venture of all time.

    by Angry Mean Panda

    It might even destroy the world as we know it.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:21 p.m. CST

    "Yo, set dem phasers to kill, I'ma gonna smoke this be-atch!

    by Tall_Boy

    "Down below, there be Klingons, yo!" "Bzap! Bzap!"

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Now I'm guessing...

    by SeptemberDay

    ..that all the shows will be about black teenagers and their trails in life. All hail Diversity!

  • but the minute anyone starts a sentence with "yo" I'm bailing.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Star Trek: Camdenprise

    by themikejonas

    "Kids, I have a confession to make--your mother is actually a whale biologist who travelled to the future, and I am simply an avatar of V'Ger."

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Camdenprise: The Next Generation

    by Sherman_Lives

    "Dad, I have a confession, too. My sister's a vampire hunter who runs from chainsaw-wielding maniacs, and I killed--er, taught Mrs. Tingle."..."Go to your room."

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3 p.m. CST

    So there goes UPN... finally

    by VitaminJ

    Somebody might have said this already, I dont have time to check. Let's face it: Merging UPN and WB means they're only going to keep the best and most successful shows from each network. In other words, they're taking UPN out behind the barn and putting it out of its misery. About damn time.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:05 p.m. CST

    It's almost as if they both said, "Well, we kind of have hal

    by Chastain-86

    So now they've formed Voltron. Amazing how that works, eh? And don't worry about the shows you love so much, like Smallville and Gilmore -- they're all going to be toast after one single season on CW.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Meh. Crap + Drivel = Diarrhea

    by Holly_Wight

    I can predict that I'll probably avoid CW like the clap.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Gilmore Girls & Veronica Mars ON THE SAME CHANNEL!!!

    by Sakurai

    This new channel is gonna be the best.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Is it April 1st already?

    by slder78

    This is for real? If so, CBS and The WB can keep secrets better than anyone in the US government, cause there wasn't a single leak about this anywhere until the anouncement today. This isn't the kind of deal that you can just make up over drinks in the Rainbow Room. "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we merged UPN and The WB?" They should put those executives in charge of the NSA.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Why not The WC?

    by George Newman

    CBS too self-important to have their letter be second?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST

    As long as Gilmore Girls is kept I don't care

    by ChorleyFM

    I imagine it won't make much difference though. UPN has no Sunday programmes, and all of its Dramas (bar Veronica Mars) fail. SO you will get mainly WB dramas with UPN comedies, with lots of reality shows available for the Summer. What they could do is have a 3 hour programming block (Like the big 3) instead of 2 then you would have almost the same number of hours as both.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Good I Say

    by barrettw

    Veronica Mars is really the only show on network I care about anymore(RIP AD), so if this gives it more publicity that rocks. And Krangelus, sadly, you're probably right about Angel :( The WB always seemed to hate it...

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:21 p.m. CST


    by glodene

    It's nice to know that you (typical) white geeks and your insatiable appetite for everything wonderbread feel so threatened by the possibility of a little ethnic pollinization of your lilly-white sensibilities. How about venturing out of that protective womb called the suburbs and jump into the melting pot that is reality. A few shows with blacks/latinos/asians & etc. won't hurt cha' any, in other words, don't be afraid to reject the status quo.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST

    tall boy


    go fuck yourself...sorry i couldn't put that in ebonics for you.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:40 p.m. CST

    No 3 hour blocks

    by The Funketeer

    I doubt they'd do 3 hour programming since most of their stations do local news during that last hour.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:41 p.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    I have question: What ever happened to the movie Harry said he was producing. Ghost Town?? This was harry's big announcement some time back. So what happened?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Bye bye Veronica Mars and Smackdown

    by BigDogg


  • Jan. 24, 2006, 3:47 p.m. CST


    by BigDogg

    Didn't see that VMars and WWE most likely will still be around. Well now I'm actually kinda happy

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Bigger news - Disney acquires Pixar!

    by HarrisonsDad

    That sux!

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:09 p.m. CST

    so does this mean aquaman is going to be black??

    by nalapou

    funniest line ever.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:12 p.m. CST

    As long as VM and Smallville are saved, I'm happy

    by nalapou

    Otherwise who really cares.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:19 p.m. CST

    It stands for CBS-Warner

    by Napoleon Park

    Though I prefer "Columbia-Warner". CW is credited in alphabetical order, that's why it's not The WC ("Don't call it that.") I thought there already was a Country Western channel. I'd say that having two free over the air broadcast television networks fail and merge to form a new network is major enough news to warrent a large type bold print all caps headline. I'm glad they'll have a Saturday Morning block - gots to gets my "The Batman". And why don't the Warner investors run Justice League on this since Cartoon Network seems so unenthusiastic about it? Not that they're asking but I'd vote to keep Love, Inc., Life with Fran and Twins. Saying they were each half a network is overly generous, and so was "Let's form Voltron!" - the big news will come in 2008 and the failing CW net merges with Fox and actually forms a full time fourth network. You know, one that's on for more than two hours a night?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Wow, you guys are asses.

    by Lenny Nero

    I'd be surprised if any of you actually watched some of the good programming on either channel. Just like any network, there is good and bad. And for such a genre-heavy site like this, I would expect this to be taken as good news.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by Sakurai

    "A few shows with blacks/latinos/asians & etc. won't hurt cha' any" You are right, but they will put me to sleep or make me cringe from the horrible writing. The black/latino/asian UPN shows suck (except for "everybody hates chris").

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by dustinthewind

    Seriously, Memphis doesn't get The WB until late night. And, now, if I have to stay up late to watch Smallville, Supernatural, AND Veronica Mars, I'm going to flip my shit.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:28 p.m. CST

    The New Lineup will include...

    by mpfanatic

    1. Gilmore Girlz 2. Laquishas Creek 3. America's Next Top Nubian Princess 4. WWE Crackdown

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Gilmore Girls is Staying Put!

    by Incomplete Gamer

    The Yahoo News story I just read said that Smallville and Gilmore Girls would be on the channel, "officials said." So there's no worry about them being kicked off the channel.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah, man. Anyone bashing this is racist.

    by Angry Mean Panda

    Sure, UPN has a hideous trackrecord of african american exploitation, but calling shit shit= You being a frightened racist. On this site at least.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Plus Disney buying Pixar...

    by Larry of Arabia

    Holy media mergers Batman!

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:45 p.m. CST

    "Why not The WC?"

    by jim

    WC stands for Water Closet, which is a polite way of saying the toilet.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:47 p.m. CST

    I don't care what the hell they do ...

    by Itchy

    will they just PLEASE start airing the broadcasts in HD in Detroit. I mean christ already ... I WANT MY HD VERONICA MARS.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:49 p.m. CST

    And why do I think this new channel

    by Itchy

    should just be called The HJS (Herc Jizz Stain) ... I mean, he's going to flog his bishop raw if they put Gilmore Girls on in front of Veronica Mars.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 4:52 p.m. CST

    the big question really

    by Tom Cruz

    WHATS GONNA HAPPEN TO THE NEWS ANCHORS??!?!?!?! those people gotta be pissing in their pants right now, cuz some motherfuckas is gettin let go real quck like

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5 p.m. CST

    Will the logo be a big eye on a shield? What will happen to Chan

    by Big Bad Clone

    The WB here is one a Tribune owned station so I imagine that this new channel will be located there.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5 p.m. CST

    the only thing i care about

    by dubsy

    is this could save veronica mars. or at least extend the show. put it behind smallville, or gilmore girls, and it'll double in popularity and maybe we'll get several more seasons

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST

    CW = CAN'T WIN network...

    by Negative Man

    It's the combination of two of the crappiest networks that barely reached 1/2 the nation. Except for EHC, VM, SV, and SD! was there anything else worth watching? What kind of crapfests will we get next? "Well, homosexual cowboys are popular... How about a show featuring two homosexual astronauts that acidentally get launched during a pre-flight check and are lost in space together?" "You mean like an updated and gayer Far Out Space Nuts?" "But this time, with women! One black and the other hispanic...and they find an alien sidekick called 'Boff' for comedy relief." "Brilliant! Phil, I could kiss you...and I will! Come here you! No...seriously, come here or your fired. Now...on your knees." They should have just called it the new network DOA.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    arrested development

    by Tom Cruz


  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Since I no longer watch anything in either channel...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...I don't care.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Does this really qualify for "cool news"...

    by StudioPlant69

    WonderTwin powers activate! Form of a shitty network! Shape of crappy programs! GFY

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Welcome to The WC...

    by J-Dizzle

    feel free to take a piss.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:15 p.m. CST

    I echo the sentiment - don't touch the Mars or the Krypton

    by oisin5199

    and all will be well. Though I wonder what this will mean for the Spike movie that the WB pres. is so keen on?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST


    by paulh

  • Now that would be the shit, the bomb, etal.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    I just woke up, but believe me...

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Veronica mars...

    by zathras34


  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    This is unlikely to mean that they'll actually produce a sho

    by Nate Champion

    Even the NOG network has more up its sleeve than these knuckleheads. Who do they think they're fooling with that bogus "high-quality programming" rhetoric?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Veronica mars...

    by zathras34


  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Smackdown does extremely well for UPN, but it's contract is

    by Shermdawg

    God though, this is big news for Smallville. Seriousley.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 6:16 p.m. CST


    by Wil2631

    Does this mean we'll get Smallville and Veronica Mars on the same night? As far as shows on the chopping block? South Beach and the entire UPN Monday programming block (girlfriends, cuts etc.) are as good as gone, so is fran, reba and twins. I hate to say this but, I think this also forces CW folks to take a harder look at Veronica Mars. There is going to be a lot more competition now and Veronica Mars is great but hasn't ever had stellar ratings. If the new audience rejects it, this could mean the end of it. Same thing goes for Smallville too, and Everybody Hates Chris too.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Both those networks are beaten by Univision and Telemundo

    by zekmoe

    So they decided to combine the two blips into one blip. RichTeenAngst and SpadeTV in one. Must be a confused teenagers dream come true.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    No Star Trek , Buffy, or Angel?

    by Real Deal

    Well it looks like I still won't have any reason to watch this amalgam. They were the only reasons I watched either one anyway.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Even if they do keep Veronica Mars...

    by OBSD

    They'll probably cancel it after Season 5.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Notice that it's "The" CW

    by ZeroCorpse

    So the "young and ethnic" people can call it "tha seedubya" and make it theirs. yo yo yo.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 8:06 p.m. CST

    The logo is out, supposedly...

    by paulh

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Smart Merger

    by Barron34

    From the perspective of the two business entities, I think it is a pretty smart merger. They can consolidate their best shows and hopefully merge their audiences, as others have pointed out. I do think that it is a better deal for UPN than it is for the WB, though, simply because the WB has developed a better brand identity than the more misbegotten UPN, in my opinion. So, after years and years of building that brand ID, the WB will no longer exist. This is less of a problem for UPN, since it has an inferior brand ID than the WB, again in my opinion. So anyhow, the two networks can cut their worst shows, consolidate their best shows, combine their audeinces, and cover more territory by combining their affiliates. All-in-all, a good business move.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 8:31 p.m. CST


    by Rcamacho2278

    A black superman is on the way!!!!

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Re: newc0253 - Welcome to the CW, bitches...

    by paulh

    Zach from Gilmore Girls wants his royalty check (remember last week's episode - "Welcome to the SH, bitches"?) :D

  • Les Moonves has already said that Gilmore Girls and Veronica are almost certainly going to be paired. This is great news for Veronica: Finally, it will have a popular, well matched lead in (I don't watch Gilmore Girls mind you, but I think this is a great idea).

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 9:37 p.m. CST

    wow, and they say racism is dead...

    by jccalhoun

    Does your mom know you post such racist things online?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Now U can P oN WB, Yay!

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 9:52 p.m. CST


    by paulh

    C=CBS, W=Warner Brothers. A 'meh' explanation, true...

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 10:23 p.m. CST

    This totally sounds like an April Fools joke, but my God it is i

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Veronica Mars will probably not be affected. That show already fits well with the rest of the WB line-up. But I do hope that the new network moves Veronica to be a better timeslot so that it's no longer up against LOST. LOST and Veronica share the same audience.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 10:40 p.m. CST

    More reasons why this is good news for Veronica...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Veronica Mars is a young show that is critically acclaimed and has a cult following. It is probably worth investing in to help brand the new network's image. Every drama on the WB now, with the exception of Supernatural, has been on the air for a while, so they are becoming more expensive to produce. And so what if Veronica Mars ends after five seasons? I'd rather have five good seasons of a show that comes to a good end, than five good seasons plus two mediocre ones that only exist because of drawn-out contract re-negotations among the creatives. And there's another factor that benefits Veronica Mars: The series happens to be produced and owned by Warner Bros. Television. Kristen Bell already gets her paychecks signed by Time-Warner.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Good news for Veronica Mars and Supernatural-- perhaps not so go

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    Why? It's all about money. Smallville and GG have been on the air for a while, and cost more than Supernatural and Veronica Mars per episode. (I would guess that GG is the WB's most expensive series now.) It really all boils down to this: Would it be more economical to end these long-time series, and then have the producers develop a new show (i.e. the Aquaman series)? Also, how important do they feel it is for the CW network to forge a new brand identity? GG and Smallville are closely tied with the WB, but neither Supernatural nor Veronica Mars have been on the air long to become identified by the general viewing public as tied to any one particular network. As for the fate of the "urban" shows, that is a great unknown, but it looks like the CW network wants to skew more towards the young female demographic. So new dramas like Veronica and Supernatural and reality shows like Top Model and Beauty and the Geek fit with this goal, and make the most sense since these shows are the cheapest to produce. Smackdown will probably be re-formatted (perhaps retitled, too) and shifted to both Spike and G4.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    Yes but how does this affect me personally?

    by Regis Travolta

    Will this new weblet air my superb morning talk show and my Saturday Night disco dance show? Will they pay me $25,000,000 a year like I want? I'm worth every penny and Moonves knows it but he's too damn cheap to pay me what I'm worth! Fox network here I come!!

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:25 p.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Not after the censoring of Vince Mcmahon on their final broadcast of Raw. Also with TNA on Spike, I seriousley doubt Smackdown would ever go there.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:33 p.m. CST

    We could get a pairing of Smallville and Supernatural, which the

    by Shermdawg

    But most likely, they'll stick @qu@m@n before Smallville, and if anything kills Smallville, it will be that.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Also Jim Jam Bongs...

    by Shermdawg

    To get G4, you either have to have sattelite or subscrible to a extra programming package ontop of a digital cable subscription in most areas. Theres no way McMahon would let it go to a network that obscure.

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:40 p.m. CST

    What I'm wondring is, if any of my local affiliates will car

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 11:58 p.m. CST

    this is good, in a way...

    by Annamaria

    at least now half the crap thats consuming television will be trashed... upn is totally losing all of its shows except for VM, Chris, Model, and Smackdown... as long as Smallville and VM are still in existance, i really couldnt give a crap what channel theyre on... and if Angel wasnt killed 2 years ago, this would definitely have been it... someone mentioned making this The JW (Joss Whedon) Network... how kick ass would that be?!?!??! Monday - Illyria/Spike, Tuesday - Willow/Giles, Wednesday - VM/Gilmore Girls, Thursday - Smallville/Aquaman ... perfect place for those TV movies we were promised...

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Smallville + Supernatural on one night!

    by lynxpro

    Make it so, CW. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned any suggestion that this will bring back the first-run syndication market now that most major cities will have one channel no longer tied to any network. For example, here in Sactown, the UPN channel (UPN31) will become the new CW channel, at the expense of the WB58. I guess that means Channel 58 will have a good shot at television *Mutant Xx2* or *Earth - No Really, Its the Final Conflict* or *The Adventures of Starcraft Sorbo* or *Beastiality Master*. Heh. However, what I'm really going to laugh at how *Smallville* will remain one of the top shows on the new CW Network after *Superman Returns* goes down harder than Amber Lynn at the box office. Poetic justice, I say, and quite funny too. Finally, *Doctor Who* comes to the SciFi Channel on March 17, biotches! Check it out here:

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 1:11 a.m. CST


    by lynxpro

    I really wish you could edit your comments on here after posting them...

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 1:47 a.m. CST

    It does

    by Dmann

    Open the market for original syndicated programming up again.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 5:51 a.m. CST


    by obidawsn

    CW stands for CBS-Warner. Also, this will be great for particular shows. Veronica Mars has needed a great lead-in (which it lacks on UPN). Taken from Here is a quote from Les Moonves from the conference call: Moonves said, "The idea of putting Gilmore Girls with Veronica Mars is a dream come true for Dawn (Ostroff). She finally has a lead-in that works for that show." Looks like Veronica Mars will finally have it's well deserved lead-in! Also, this will lead to the more markets getting WB and UPN programming. Some markets only have one or the they will have both in one channel. I don't think people will have to worry about losing their shows (as long as they don't get cancelled).

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 6:15 a.m. CST


    by Napoleon Park

    Urban, as in "the target market is young and urban", means pertaining to the city or citified. so we should expect a lot more Sex In The City clones - which is good news for Love, Inc. On the other hand, Smallboy, about a village in Kansas, doesn't seem to fit the demo.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 6:17 a.m. CST


    by Napoleon Park

    What we really need is one network with the nards to carry the two funniest shows on TV, Arrested Development" and "The Book Of Daniel". Man, if they could get "Venture Brothers" and "The Boondocks" too, they'd be made.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Crazy Wankers

    by Mister Man

    Awful logo, if that link is correct. Agreed that they'd get some cred by picking up "Arrested." "Book of Daniel," however, was one of the most retarded green-lights in network broadcast history....HBO, yes, but NBC? NO.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I say if CBS really wanted to play hardball, they'd give The

    by Mr. Profit

    Since CBS is #1 by a lot. They could afford to lend a helping hand to The CW and give them NCIS or CSI: Miami. And when The CW gets all these new pilot scripts based on the fact that they now have a wider audience, expect many shows older UPN-WB shows to get cancelled. Veronica is safe. Chris is safe. Top Model is safe. And so are Smallville and Gilmore, but I expect the last two to end in May 2007.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Actually I've heard that Smallville will go for seven season

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 10:47 a.m. CST

    How can anybody be surprised by this?

    by Forget_Byron

    I mean seriously, both stations have been mismanaged from day 1. The top-level execs have the creative intelligence of a duckbill platypus. I find it hilarious that many posters here thought they already were a single network. The only good show the WB ever had was Buffy (and Angel was okay, too), and UPN's only good show was .... when I think of 1 I'll let you know. (Yes, I know Buffy was on UPN, but it sucked there for two years, and I was very happy when it finally went away. In my mind Buffy [the character] is dead because she jumped into a ball of mystical energy and it was just some doppleganger of her running around with the Scoobies after that). After the WB cancelled Angel, I began my long boycott of the network. My wife still watches Supernatural, and I would, too, if it weren't on WB. They had it coming. UPN had it coming, and I will applaud the day when both networks fold and the execs are flipping burgers at Mickey D's!!

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 10:50 a.m. CST

    I'd count on this ending up on WGN...notice how prominently

    by minderbinder

    Sounds like any Triune owned stations will get first dibs.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Veronica Mars / Everybody Hates Chris

    by Mr. Profit

    The only two UPN shows worthy of a bigger audience. This new network will now expose them to 95% of the country instead of 20-Something Percent. Also if Chris can BEAT a Big 4 network show like Joey in the ratings on UPN, a network with less exposure nationally, imagine what will happen next season when it's apart of the CW lineup.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Tribune stations will go CW.

    by themikejonas

    Tribune Stations (who carry WB) and CBS-owned UPN stations will be the ones who turn CW in their markets, affiliates in those same markets will go independent. In markets where both networks are on affiliates, that'll be up in the air, but one of them will ultimately be the CW station. Dunno what'd happen if a Tribune station was in the same market as a UPN O&O. The programming pattern will be exactly the same as WB's--two hours a night on weekdays, five hours of kids' programs on Saturday morning, three hours of Sunday primetime with an additional two hours of pre-primetime.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Gilmore Girlfriends

    by Truth0ne


  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Everybody Hates Clark.

    by Truth0ne


  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:31 p.m. CST

    One on One Tree Hill.

    by Truth0ne


  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:34 p.m. CST


    by Truth0ne


  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by oisin5199

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:56 p.m. CST

    next week on Veronicaville....

    by oisin5199

    Chloe and Veronica investigate each other while both making cute-blonde girl eyes at Clarke. Lex takes young Logan under his wing to train for eeevil! Kendall and Lois compare plastic surgery. Weevil is all over Lana. Keith starts investigating Lana, while Jonathan kicks Aaron Echolls' ass!

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST

    oops, I meant Keith investigating Lionel

    by oisin5199

    and Clark, not Clarke.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Supernatural Beach

    by jim

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST


    by ChrisPC24

    Is that like a whole network of Carsey-Werner shows? Five nights a week of Cosby, A Different World, That '70s Show, then Third Rock From the Sun? Sounds like the lineup most UPN stations already have!

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 5:37 p.m. CST

    upn and WB

    by baj24

    this isn't going to make much of a difference to me anyways...the wb and upn share an affiliate here...the wb shows come on @ normal times and the upn shows come on at like ridiculous ass VM comes on @ midnight instead of its normal model isn't even aired on the same night as VM...

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 5:45 p.m. CST

    The CW is a stupid name.

    by riskebiz

    Another letter would have helped. The CW sounds like some good ol' boy network from Texas.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    On the media mergers.

    by Orbots Commander

    So first we have the Dreamworks-Paramount deal, then the Disney-Pixar deal, now we have a new station, the CW, the result of another merger. Don't let the press release hype fool you though. Most business mergers, particularly multiple ones occuring in one industry at a particular point in time is usually because of one thing: a flat or shrinking marketplace. Growth in the entertainment industry right now is stagnant, hence these media deals

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 6:18 p.m. CST

    geez, BALTIMOREJACK, get off your high horse

    by Tall_Boy

    Did I start dropping n-bombs all over the place? Say that I wanted that "dirty fucking black man trash off my thar flickerin' TV screen"? No, I pointed out that UPN has made a lot of explotive crappy "urban" programming (Homeboys in Space, Desmond Phiefier. You remember those, don't you? being all concerned about racial harmony, I'm sure you do. Really. Mr. Sensitive.) and Star Trek programing. So I was talking about a merger of those two styles. Using ebonics. And Star Trek. It was a joke. Therefore, go fuck yourself, ok? Hard. Cool. Glad we had this little chat. Douchebag.

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Thought I Lost 3 Months

    by TGirl Jerri

    But I quess it's not April Fools

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 7:56 p.m. CST

    it's not like they have buffy or angel anymore, so fuck &#39

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    why does anybody care about these networks? merge them and now two networks worth of crap are on one channel. how about warner brothers saving the justice league cartoon? now that would be newsworthy!

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 8:48 p.m. CST


    by Chief Redcock

  • Jan. 25, 2006, 11:39 p.m. CST

    One crappy network + one crappy network = one crappy network!

    by CrusherJen

    Amen, Forget_Byron, amen. I've been boycotting the WB since they staked Angel too-- it was the only decent show they had, it got some of their best ratings, and they completely disrespected their viewers by cancelling it despite massive protests. I'm glad to see them crash and burn. And UPN isn't any better... about the only thing I ever watched there was Trek in one form or another (except Enterprise, I never could get into that.) ~~~~~~~I DON'T CARE what color the actors are, I want well-written, interesting, *creative* programming, preferably in the sci-fi/fantasy/horror genre. If I don't get that, I don't watch. Period. I won't watch reality TV, I won't watch whiny rich-teen (OC-type) drama , and I won't watch lame un-funny s(*)it-coms!!! That's why I haven't watched the WB and UPN... and I don't expect to watch the CW either. Crap + crap still = crap!

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Great, twice the ineptitude, half the airtime.

    by BAMF

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 12:15 a.m. CST


    by BAMF

    Sing it, sister!

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 2:04 a.m. CST


    by REDD

    on a very special merger...

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 7:58 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 7:58 a.m. CST


    by Shermdawg

    Please let it.

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Cool. Now I only have to ignore one channel!

    by R.C. the "Wise"

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 1:55 p.m. CST

    This is bad news!

    by _Maltheus_

    Any merger, in any industry is bad news for the consumers first, employees second. The big three networks are so lame because they're top-heavy institutions who are afraid to take any chances. The WB and UPN may have a lot of crap, but they also take chances now and then. Fox use to be cool, until they got too big, and now they've got no steam left. No new ideas. I guess Smallville is all I care about here. Good thing they won't be doing Aquaman now since blacks are such complete homophobes (not to feel left out, I had to chime in with a UPN joke too). CW sounds like country western or any number of channels I'd program out of my channel list. It just doesn't flow nicely. My advice to the CW, don't cancel Smallville until you have another show that audience will watch. I'm sure a "certain" show creator could come up with a good show to kickstart your network. Hell, someone should come out with a network that only picks up cancelled shows (the ones with the cult followings). They'd always be in a good negotiating position and they'd quickly develop a loyal fan base.

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Welcome Back Niggers!!!

    by BurtGummer

    To the WB!!! Chappelle's Show fans will know what I'm talking about.

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Star Trek and Smallville

    by Barron34

    I definitely think that the programming heads at this new network would be smart to keep Smallville running until such time as they have other major hit shows, otherwise they will have no engine to run their new train with. Also, I am an old Trek fan who swore off watching new Trek since Voyager. I vowed never to watch new Trek until they re-vamped the entire executive/production team, preferably with someone like the late, great Michael Piller, ie, a previous Trek writer/producer who knows good science-fiction TV and good Trek. I have not been confident that such a new approach would occur at anytime in the near future, but I think that the formation of this new network might be a possible opportunity for such a regime change at Star Trek/Paramount. This new network will definitely be looking for workhorse shows to anchor their primetime line-ups. Smallville clearly should be one such show. I think a new Trek show might be a good candidate for just such an "anchor" role as well. Trek, like Superman, is a genre property with automatic name recognition, and so would be a safer bet than other unproven new properties. If their is a demand by the new network, a new Trek series could be produced, hopefully on the condition that a new executive creative team be put in place in a post-Berman and Braga regime. This new network could define itself as a TV brand that has strong "genre" credentials. The CW network could be the place to go for new genre TV, anchored by shows like Smallville and a new Star Trek series. With these shows as a core or nucleus, the network could then start attracting good genre TV pilots. Maybe we could end up seeing new shows from people like Joss Whedon, J. Michael Straczynski, and others. The CW network could end up serving genre fans, if we are lucky. Of course, this might just be fanciful thinking, since the network will probably continue to be dominated by the youth-oriented melodramas that the WB has become famous for. But, it is still a possibility that at least some of the new networks shows could be leading genre series, if they stick with stuff like Smallville, Supernatural, and so on, as well as if a new Trek series eventually gets made.

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    More Typos

    by Barron34

    "If there is a demand", not "If their is a demand"..uugh...

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Very tactful, Burt...

    by Chief Redcock

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I'm an asshole, give me a break.

    by BurtGummer