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Glen reviews Seven Days (UPN)
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Glen here…
Well…damn it…for several days I’ve been trying to figure out how to review the pilot without giving too much away. Alas, it’s nearly impossible - as one of my key criticisms of the show also happens to be a rather major spoiler. Can this review be done without revealing the spoiler? Yes, but I think the points I would like to make regarding said spoiler are valid, and I’d really like you to think about them while viewing the show.
As such:
THIS IS A SPOILER WARNING. A RATHER MAJOR SPOILER IS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS ARTICLE. IT’S NOT ALTOGETHER A SURPRISING SPOILER WHEN YOU REALLY STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS A MAJOR SPOILER NONE THE LESS.
IF YOU PROCEED PAST THIS POINT, YOU RISK SPOILAGE FOR THE PILOT OF UPN’s "SEVEN DAYS".
Here we go…
SEVEN DAYS is a new series for UPN. It’s pilot is about a guy who gets to travel back in time seven days to save the U.S. President, Vice President, and Speaker of the House from assassination by terrorists. Also in the mix: a school-load of young children, many of whom had been exterminated in a terrorist gassing.
One candidate for the time travel mission is Frank Parker, who is taken out of a sanitarium populated by disgruntled American war veterans. The vets are pissed off about how the government treats the special forces, and feel like they’ve been summarily abandoned after being utilized to accomplish various government agendas (think THE ROCK). In fact, when news of the assassinations starts rolling in, many of the vets don’t seem to give a crap, but Parker sees beyond his resentment.
Parker is one of the few people put in the running to take the "backstep". Backstep is a time travel project which the government is planning using to send one person back in time seven days, to prevent the gassing and various assassinations. Someone qualified but expendable is needed. Someone whose tolerance for stress factors will allow him to survive the tremendously violent time transition process (think the sphere sequence in CONTACT). Parker looks to be the man.
There is initially some dissent among the staff of Backstep, some of whom feel drafting a crazy person for the job of saving the future is pretty insane notion in itself.
Thanks in no-small-part to the endorsement of a Backstep military liaison (a former friend of Parker’s - played by the way cool and much missed Don Franklin, Roy Scheider’s First Officer on SEAQUEST), Parker is ultimately selected for the job. After a rigorous and daunting training / physical regimen (think THE RIGHT STUFF), Parker is ready to make the journey back in time. And the rest, as they say, is history. Or, *will* be history. Or, *was* history. Or…
And herein lies the problem…
((LAST CHANCE TO LOOK AWAY FROM THE SPOILER))
In this first episode, Parker is ultimately successful in resolving his mission. He saves the President, Vice President, Speaker of the House, and all the little children. And all is right with the world. BUT - if Parker was sent back in time solely as a reaction to the events he just canceled out (which he did by preventing the assassinations from happening), would this not suggest that Parker should cease to exist?
After all, he was only sent back in time because the assassinations happened to begin with. If the assassinations were successfully prevented, Parker would - therefore - never have been sent back in time. He should be erased from the subsequent timeline, no? So, why is this guy still hanging around in the past after he saves the day? ‘Cause they need a series, I guess. Still, this inconsistency bothers me, and unless I missed something along the way, the paradox even flies in the face of the laws laid down throughout this first Backstep story.
Which leads to a second issue: by the episode’s conclusion, we’re made to believe that other backsteps will be made. Pretty safe bet - after all, there are further episodes of the series. In this particular adventure, Parker can only travel back in time seven days due to power limitations and requirements. Does this imply that all stories for this series will be set within the previous week? Seems this is the case given a recent TV Guide interview with the series’ producer - who said something about the seven day limit giving the stories a greater sense of urgency (this is *not* an exact quote). This is a budget saver, all right - but this restriction could get really old really, really fast.
Jonathan LaPaglia plays Parker as very much the everyman. He is an appealingly volatile and enjoyably unpredictable personality who you *know* you could count on when the going gets tough. Franklin is…as always…cool and measured, his character is a fun counterpoint to Parker’s off-centered nature. Norman Lloyd is also on hand as a Backstep scientist. Anything Lloyd touches automatically inherits at least a *little* class, doesn’t it?
A few subordinate characters are too stereotypically drawn or heavy handedly presented (the bitch ex-wife or the ass hole "this guys is never going to work!" nay sayer), but these factors are nicely counterbalanced by extra focus and attention towards the characters who are most often in the spotlight.
The opening of SEVEN DAYS is extremely handsome. It is wonderfully photographed, and is directed with involving sensibility by John McPherson (you can tell this episode is directed by an accomplished cinematographer). This pilot is a hell of a way to start a series. A lot of money got spent on this pilot, and it shows across the board. This thing is *big*.
One can only hope that writer / producer Christopher Crowe (FEAR and LAST OF THE MOHICANS) and company are fast enough and sharp enough to jump over all of the pitfalls this concept inherently lays down before them. It’s a fun and interesting ride, which might even make you think from time to time. But if the saying is true...and the devil really is in the details…they’d better watch out for those details, or someday there could be hell to pay for this series which seems to have so much potential - despite the many obstacles it will need to overcome to be the best it can be.
Hope *does* shine brightly. While they would not tell me any specifics (which equals "take this with a grain of salt"), several people working on this production have messaged me, indicating a high degree of support and belief in SEVEN DAYS. They feel some of the inconsistencies and trouble-spots enumerated in this review have been smoothed over or successfully addressed. If this is indeed the case, SEVEN DAYS might…just might…be the next "real thing".
SEVEN DAYS debuts Wednesday October 7 at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central on UPN.
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The pilot is very good for a pilot movie setting up the series. A lot of the fun and what makes the pilot good is the discovery of doing it for the first time successfully. In the future, they now know it works and won't be surprised near as much when Frank shows up. I'm sure it will still be dangerous to travel and there will be some problems, but not enough to kill off the main character.
Whether they can keep it up for the series or if viewers even bother to tune in thinking it's just a rehash of TimeCop remains to be seen. -
The problem with the "branches" plot is that once you go back and change time (move on to the "new" branch) no one in the new timeline will remember that you did it. To them, what happened is history. No one will remember that "the president was killed and then some guy went back in time and saved him so now the president is alive". They will either a) remember the president being killed or b) remember a botched assasination attempt. So basicall, you would have a guy completing missions that his superiors never remember sending him on. Weird.
BTW, I read an interesting article the other day which stated that we would never gain the ability to go back in time because, if we do (will? damn it's hard to stay in the right tense when you're talking about this) someone from the future would have already come back to this time and told us that, in the future, we will be able to go back in time. -
Glen here...GWEILO wrote:"BTW, I read an interesting article the other day which stated that we would never gain the ability to go back in time because, if we do (will? damn it's hard to stay in the right tense when you're talking about this) someone from the future would have already come back to this time and told us that, in the future, we will be able to go back in time." GLEN HERE AGAIN: but...wouldn't the primary rule a time traveller from the future be to *not* interact with persons from the past to any significant extent (or even slight extent)? And not to impart knowledge re: mankind's future less the time traveller alter that future, thus jeopardizing his own timeline and existence?**Glen**
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Like in any physics subject, it all boils down to frame-of-reference. A huge contradiction was obvious in the "Back To The Future" films. In Part I, they sent the dog ahead in time. Relative to Marty and Doc, the dog no longer existed in their frame of reference until he reappeared a minute later. Yet in Part II, Marty was able to go to the future to meet himself, implying that relative to the non-time traveling world, he never actually left. By the standard of Part I, he should have arrived in a world where Marty mysteriously disappeared back in 1985. The reverse made more sense though. When going back to established events, there were multiple Martys. Had the time travel device been destroyed, there would have remained multiple Martys. So in 7 days, my question is, once you get rid of the need to send the time traveller, what do you do with the extra one who hasn't experienced the now-altered 7 days?????
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This might make for a good series, but it would be pretty neat if.....
... The vet character is pissed about being used and discarded so he sees this program as an excellent way to escape from the mental instution. So he goes through all the training and jumps back in time telling the feds that he'll save the prez. After he gets through the time portal he ends up seven days earlier standing in a field with a man whom he recognizes. They have a short conversation "What are you doing here?, etc." Then he just walks away. He uses his seven days to break himself out of the mental instution (he IS special forces) and secure passage to Canada (or some equally non-US place.) The prez gets nailed. Then the scientists go to look for candidates to send back in time. He is missing when they check on him to see if he'll do it. An alert is notified. The scientists send a different man back in time to complete the mission. The man completes the mission and reports back to the scientists about seeing the man in the clearing that was supposed to be free of people. They deduce what happened with our main character, and start a large man hunt for him because he knows top government secrets and is Krazy (with a Kapital "K".) So now the show goes to a manhunt format with the feds chasing the rogue lunatic. They always get conflicting reports of where their subject is and no more time travel occurs. The show would split time between both instances of the main character (sometimes they would both appear on screen together, a'la parent trap). The final episode of the series would end with one of the occurances of an extremely long and complicated betrayal of the other to the feds so he can get away and live in peace. But is it the one who is seven days older? This could be cool and would avoid the lame repeated time travel ploy. Whadda ya think? -Ral
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First, all these types who are talking about "no scientific proof" about the possibility of FTL travel, or time travel. You guys obviously have not been keeping up with the more avant garde edge of modern quantum theory. And besides, in an infinite universe, with new discoveries being made all the time, it is not wise to flatly state the impossibility of anything. If such limited imagination and tendency towards dogma began to truly dominate science, civilization would creak to a halt.
Second, as for the effects of time travel, depends on what sort of theory you are playing around with. The single time line, the parrallel universe, the single time line, but with branches, etc.
I am not claiming to know all the answers, but you all should keep in mind that sci fi has been postulating "impossible" things since it's beginnings. Look around you and see all the "impossibilities" that are our reality. At one point they weren't. -
Let's face it, folks: time travel just sucks as a plot device. It's never done with any real logic (although Twelve Monkeys -was- immensely cool), and probably never will be. But, of course, it will continue to be an immensely popular device simply because it's an easy and common concept that everybody understands (or thinks they do, anyway), even television writers and the trailer-trash focus groups who approve their crap.
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Okay, assume that to avoid the so-called "Grandfather Paradox", (You send the guy back - he changes things - then there's no need to send him back so you don't - so things stay the same - so you send the guy back - ect...ad infinitum) you invoke the
"Everet Wheeler Many Worlds" theory, and say that by sending the guy back you create an alternate (and *seprate*) time-line in which the president and everyone else aren't killed.
Okay, so why waste the time and money and effort to send someone back in time in the first place? The changes aren't going to affect YOU, just some other copies of you in some other timeline that you don't live in and can't access. As far as you (in the original time-line) are concerned, the prez and everybody else is still dead. Period.
Now, as for the guy you sent back, HE would live out the rest of *his* life in the new timeline, along with ANOTHER copy of himself that was never sent back in time because nobody ever died.
*WHEW!*
I suppose that you could invoke somekind of "Schrodinger's Cat" situation, in which the timeline changes for everyone, *BUT* the people who sent the guy back, and the guy they sent back, and they are the only people who remember the old timeline or see the changes made. Time would simply shift around them. (Since they where aware of the experiment, they were, so to speak, inside the box.)
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Wait, I got that last part backwards - the people who sent the guy back in time would be *outside* of the box, so to speak.
The rest of the world and the timeline would exist to them as a kind of mutable uncollpased Schrodinger probability wave function.
Except, that's not really right, because history has allready happened, they've *seen* it. The wave function has collapsed on way or the other and according to Quantum Mechanics you can't uncollapse a collapsed wave function...but, if you had a time machine...rules might be different...oh...HELL! JUST FORGET IT! ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!
God, I hate temporal mechanics!
Where's my f#$%ing Tylenol!!!???
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I have one last thing to add about the whole "Marty can't meet himself, Einstein should be doubled, we can't think of anything better to argue about, blah blah." The Marty that Jennifer sees in "Back to the Future, Part II" would have finished the series, but would have still raced Needles in the final scene, thus breaking his hand and so on. The Protagonist Marty must have changed his viewpoint somehow (i.e. remembering what Doc said about the Accident in the Future) that allowed him to think twice about it. As for Quantum Leap, Al explains that Sam created a machine which balls the days of Sam's lifetime, which allows him to jump around his life. It also involves a giant blue screen room, Sam turning blue (I always thought that his machine turned him into quarks, thus allowing him to travel at the speed of light, and then reatomize him at his destination) and Sam going into the time warp in a spandex turtlenck and reimmerging in a t-shirt. Forget it. I'm too tired to discuss this anymore.
Shoot, Alex, Shooot!,
Grig -
You have the guy go back in time.
He prevents the occurence and therefore he never goes back in time to prevent the occurence. Their is now two of him!
One who went back in time, the other who didn't need to.
You just kill the one who didn't need to, dump his body, and take his place
easy enough.
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If time travel was possible and people did do it in the future, why would they tell us? If I was a time traveller I would keep it a secret. See the recent DC Comics series Chronos. In it, people discover that the super villan Chronos had a secret stash of swag he had nicked from many different eras.
On the other hand, I live in NYC. I see people who claim to be from the future all the time.
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First off, I don't think I buy the "some time traveler would have told us by now" theory as a QED proof of the impossibility of time travel. It is interesting to note, however, that sometimes not interacting can pose its own problems. I once read a book (I can't remember the title or author at the moment) in which time travel is discovered /invented at a small college in south central Pennsylvania. One man goes back to witness the pivotal point in the War for Southron Independence, Lee's victory at Gettysburg. He is leaning against a tree at the edge of clearing when CSA troops, on their way to taking up positions on the Round Tops before the USA can get there, stop and ask him what is in the trees ahead. Fearing possible damage to the time line, he refuses to speak with them. They take his silence as an implying a threat of ambush and stop their advance. This allows the Union to get to the Round Tops first and really screws up the time line (by creating the one we know).
I always kinda liked that story. -
Ok, having not seen it yet - I'm only going on what I heard about it and what would make sense.
Quick primer on hyper-space mechanics: What we call time, the thing your little digital watch measures - is the relitive time in relitivity. One theory on why near light speed travel causes temporial dilation is due to the warping of space ( akin to a shock wave building up infront of a jet ). The more the warping the more the quarks ( or superstring loops ) slow down - thus the atmoic interactions slow down ) this is why someone would age slower - a watch would tick slower, etc. Then there is absolute time - wich has a constant rate - just as we see the universe expanding in 3 dimentions from the epicenter of the big bang - it also occured in all 10 theorised dimentions. So 3d objects also have "length" in 4th dimentional space - which is how "long" they exist. This is an object's ( a single quark/superstring loop ... that make up something like a person ) time line. 5d space is the aforementioned multi-verse were there are an infinite number of time lines running paralell ( akin to infinite paralell lines in a plane ). This is how "Sliders" works - they are just hopping time-lines. Like two trains moving down the tracks at the same speed in paralell - you can spend a little energy and step across to the next one. For time travel you have to have expend a lot more energy. To move back in time - you have to fight against the constant "forward" momentum of the time lines. Which is why you have this huge fusion powered "thing" that lobs a capsil out into "hyperspace" ( 5d space ) and lands back in time in 3d space. Think of being at the head of a train, you want to hit a target at the rear of the train with your arrow. You could aim the bow and shoot at it, but you would almost always over shoot since the end of the train ( and target ) is racing towards the point of shooting it. Since this "train" is moving at atleast light speed and you don't have to deal with gravity droping the arrow - you can just give the arrow enough speed in the reverse direction of the train to negate it's forward motion - it stops dead in it's tracks pointed at the target - and the target runs into it. Bullseye. So your arrow has exited existance for your time ( the front cab of the train ) and gone into hyperspace, and didn't reapear until the target hit it. Or - to keep up with idea an object can not be served from it's past - it's time line loops back through hyperspace and reattech to the main time-line when the arrow hits the target. Ok now for the show. They only have limited energy and can only slow down the capsle enough to have it land 7 days behind ( now assuming you forget to account for the spinning of the earth, the place in orbit, the movement of the solar system in the milkyway, etc - you could find your self stuck in deep space - but for the sake of the show we assume they can atleast get the capsle to land on earth - since the trailer showed it crash landing in a field - I would say they can't do much better than "somewhere" on earth at the current level of technology. ) So how do you keep track of what he is doing? You don't send anyone back until the project has been going on for atleast 7 days. You already know you plan to send people back in time. Part of the assignment when they land is to return to the lab - since it has to be there because it was there when they sent the capsle back in the first place. You make sure you don't pick a new operative more than every week - so the team knows who will be comming back. The operative shows up - tells them the mission, they then assist him complete the mission.
Now - that out of the way - were stuck with the multi-verse problem that was mentioned - of why bother to send him back if it just effects your time line?
Lets take the theory that the quantum uncertenty dosn't actualy create the multi-verse - it just allows the "room" for a timeline to move around in - between the various probablities. Sure there is a slight chance that if your driving head on into a brick wall every quantium in your bodies atoms might randomly tunnel through the wall and reassemble on the other side - but not bloodly likely on any given try. So lets use the train again. Your at the front of the train and you have two bridge spans ahead, each with a track. Infront of the bridge is a track changer to go on either bridge span. The you notice the trigger switch fo the changer zip by the front of the train - then look up to see the span your headed down is unfinished - you need to change paths - but you already passed the control switch. So lets say you can run back down the train fast enough and get to the end in time to reach out and hit the switch before the train get to the bridge switch - say seven cars back. Assuming you get back there ( the time capsle ) you manage to hit the switch and change the path. Now in the show, he goes back, changes the path by saving the president ( and the kiddies ) to a more desirable path ( atleast as far as the scientists could see it - mabey the president was planning on cutting space funding - and the new one would have spent lots on it and wound up inventing warp drive and we meet aliens for the first time, etc... ) So what happens to the operative? His timeline is still attached to the front of the train - even if the train changed tracks - the train it'self ( the moment in time he left from ) so he has two options, take a seat in the back of the train - with a self up to seven days younger and hit the track to play the ponies - or return back down his time-line to the front of the train - now leading the way for the train.
So the interesting thing is - no time travel into the future unless you have already gone back in time - any your limited to getting up to the point in time were you left from. Whats the point? Well you can do stuff like the show - or say go back farter when you get better equipment and see events that have poor historic record, come back - etc. But you run the risk the farther back you go - the more chance you have to bugger things up - go back in time 3.5 billion years ago and leave any modern bacteria ( from your clothes - breathing out, etc ) or God forbid a dust might or god forbid you shake off a few dozen dust mights or head lice - enough to bread a geen pool - and they become the dominate form of life at a time single cell life was just forming - and you return to the point you left - and blamo you show up in the middle of a hive of "Alien" style bugs ... Shitty.
So seven days is close enough you have to actualy do something drastic to make a change - just breathing, displacing air - etc... isn't going to have time to build up changes.
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Yeah, sure its beyond their control. Bullshit. They can talk to their "superiors" can't they? Just tell them that you'll watch something else instead of crappy repeats or some lame replacement show (like the one that replaced B5 on thursday nights. Does anyone remember that show? I don't.)
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You guys have all missed the biggets flaw in this pilot - why would anyone try to stop someone from killing politicians?;)
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Curious...
While I anticipate the debut,being a huge time travel fan,after reading the review above I find myself in agreement as to the paradox theory and have a question.
If every episode has the character sent back 7 days to alter the past and he succeeds,then how would he get sent back at all since the events never happened??
Two possibilties..
1-In going back he alters the past and in itself creates a divergent universe,an alternate reality that mirrors his own with the exception of the particular event he just prevented and every time he does go back an succeeds in his mission he creates another alternate reality.
2-OR the backstep project has some kind of built in immunity to paradox within its own design although this would be not only highly unlikely but also a cop-out to the fans of intelligent science fiction.
I guess I'm highly skeptical but equally intrigued by this show and will watch and hope I don't regret it. -
No disrespect, Jeff, but you typify the dogmatic thinking of some scientists nowadays. You hit upon a theory that wraps the universe up in a tidy package for you, and you think "that's it". It has all been figured out. And you start throwing absolutes around. Sure, the law of relativity seems to prohibit convential acceleration beyond lightspeed. But there's wormhole theory, tachyons (so quick to dismiss them, of course, because they disrupt your outlook), etc. Einstein was a brilliant man, but he was not a god. He did not have it all figured out. He said, "God does not play dice with the universe." Stephen Hawking says, "Not only does God play dice, but he often throws them where they can't be seen."
You claim to be up on modern quantum theory, Jeff. But you are so dismissive of it, obviously close minded to all possibilities outside your frame, that I don't think you are the most qualified to comment. -
No post-mortum? I watched last night and was satisfied with 7 days
as entertainment but not sci-fi. Biggest cop-out: the character who
travels backward had the pre-existing version of him "vanish". This
eliminates the problem of getting an extra one of him running around
every time they use the device; since they DON'T send him back to resolve
the "issue of the day" once he solved it, there would REMAIN two of him
in the altered timeline... then three, then four... Also I noted evidence
of some serious post-production editing: the microchip under his arm is
played up repeatedly, then is shown to fly out of him on the hard landing
and "get lost" in the debris. But it never pays off, nothing is made of it,
as though they were planning on a layer of disbelief of him due to the
lack of a chip implant... probably cut for time. Anyway, I was pleased
with some of the acting, many of the character relationships, and with the
production quality in general. But make no mistake, this is an action
series, not sci-fi. If evaluated that way, it's pretty good. I fear mostly that they
will run out of ideas for action complications and never go looking to push
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"The Future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of sixty minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is."
- Clive Staples Lewis
'7 Days' believably combines modern mathematics and physics theories with speculative fiction to render the plot device: Time Travel. It actually provides the most probable form of Time Travel shown in SF so far, using gravitational effects to warp space-time. [Space-time refers to the four-dimensional physical universe, as seen from a theoretical outside perspective.]
Many of the previous postings have related to FTL, so let's dismiss those arguments first. Objects with mass cannot go faster than light, at least as far as current theory is concerned. That's okay. E=mc^2 still works in '7 Days'. The gravitational pull of a black hole has been theorized to 'bend' light as it travels through space-time. But if the speed of light _is_ constant, then what gravity is actually warping is the space-time through which that light is travelling. As far as the light is concerned, it is moving in a straight line; to the outside observer (us), it is bent. The relative warping of space is measured by a difference in time.
Time is a vector that goes from the past to the future. To an outside observer, any point along that line is as valid as any other. Artificially increasing the mass of an object (OurHero) [by using unexplained Alien technology] could displace that object from the time flow of all the other objects around it. By controlling the 'bending' of space around the object, it can be displaced temporally. Relativity experiments have proved that an object can go into the future relatively faster than other objects (the whole twin thing). Travelling backwards simply involves a greater degree of directional control. [Doing this without having the artificial gravity crush Our Hero into a fine powder is a separate issue.]
The 'Needle' in the time craft is used to control the object's absolute position in space-time so that it maintains its relative position to a given reference point (Earth). The further back one goes absolutely, the greater the difficulty in maintaining this relative position in space-time. Hence the opening shot with a dead guy floating in space. Nearby targets are easier to hit. With increased power and control methods, the 7-day range can/will be increased (as plots require or ratings plummet). [Why a human's reflexes would be better suited for this maneuvering than a computer's is also a separate issue.]
'7 Days' seems to be going with a single, mutable timeline rather than branching one. (As has been argued in earlier posts, what's the point of saving some parallel universe's timeline when yours is still screwed?) The problem, which the show has not addressed yet, is Multiple Heroes. When OurHero goes back in time, he overlaps himself for 7 days. [This is not a problem, and would not cause either of them to wink out of existence! If matter cannot exist twice in the same time reference, then time travel is not possible. Today the atoms in my body are 'me'. Previously some were a hamburger, that was once a cow, that was once a blade of grass, etceteras ad infinitum.] But at the end of that week, the 'original' version has no reason to go back in time, and the 'traveling' version has no better method of going forward than Lewis' sixty minutes an hour. So we end up with two Heroes, one who is roughly one week older than the other (and another from each subsequent trip). As of the first episode, there's OurHeroWhoTravelledInTime and SomePoorCrazyBastardWho'llProbablyBeLockedUpForever. Next week, we'd have OurHeroWhoTravelledInTime, OurHeroWhoDidn't, and the aforementioned PoorCrazyBastard. This problem has been dealt with in a very television manner: it is ignored completely.
And that's okay. Multiple Heroes might be the resulting effect if this were real, but this is fiction. Ultimately, this is a show about people, not science; it is about exploring the possibilities of the human condition, and showing how everything we do affects those around us. Even little things have consequences.
The religious implications of regularly bringing the dead back to life are staggering...
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