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Guess Who Is About To Walk Into Peter Parker's Life Now!!!! SPIDER-MAN 3 News!

Hey True Believers, Harry Knowles here with some Marvel news to really marvel about. Now, it might be backwards as hell... how Sam Raimi's done this, but he seems intent on doing it. Sam is gonna bring the most beloved character in the history of SPIDER-MAN into the cinematic fold. That's right. As rumors of the second coming of the Green Goblin mount... From screen right enters... GWEN STACY!!!






When Avi Arad called me this morning to discuss the HULK sequel - he let slip that he was intent on calling me today anyway to drop this megabomb of coolnews. He knew that I would friggin love this like no tomorrow! For me, Gwen Stacy is the very embodiment of YOUNG LOVE. She is that teenage girl that dreamt of all those tomorrows that she'd never live. She was the damsel that wasn't saved. Right when Spidey was getting cocky about web-slinging and soul-saving... he lost another. This one, within his own soul. For serious comics fans, the Gwen Stacy story is sacred text. It is, along with the coming of Galactus - the single greatest Superhero arc of the Silver Age. And it was the exact opposite of that story. FF 48, 49 and 50 were about the story cosmic, this was about the story intimate.

As of about an hour ago, the contract was signed. Sam Raimi and Avi Arad have their sweetheart. They've cast young Bryce Howard, yes, Ron Howard's daughter - the one playing the title character in M Night's next film. Bryce is just about the hottest young emerging talent out there right now - and she is, like her father once was, a redhead... but like Ron - she's going b... no, not bald, but BLONDE - hopefully Platinum Blonde for the role of Gwen Stacy. Avi wouldn't tell me if Bryce was signed for one or two pictures. But the key for me was always Gwen's eyes. She had amazing, captivating grey-blue newsprint eyes. Here's the photo Avi sent me, with the note, "Of course she will be blonde..."






Sam's been stellar so far - and this is definitely the right step to head in. Now - if only he'd kill Mary Jane instead. Heh.

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  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Does Mary Jane die then?

    by SpikeZoft

    first?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Since I know that Kirsten Dunst wants Mary Jane to die

    by SpikeZoft

    Which would make for a pretty cool reverse parallel to the comics. I was hoping this would be Venom news though. Still cool, but not the actual pics of characters like I hoped.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:47 p.m. CST

    awesome

    by charlesgrodinsux

    I'm officially excited now. I am totally infactuated with Bryce-Dallas

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:48 p.m. CST

    They cast a blonde as MJ and a redhead as Gwen...makes sense...

    by superhero

    Will she be fucking Norman Osborne in the movies like she did in the comics...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:51 p.m. CST

    She looks much more like Mary Jane than Gwen Stacy...

    by Angry Mean Panda

    Also, Gwen Stacy is a fucking whore. Is she going to have Norman Osborne's kids in this movie like in the comic?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST

    mmmm Bryce

    by Lando Griffin

    this is good news although, like others, I had my hopes set on Grace/Venom/villain news

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Bottom Line: When will we see the 3-way??

    by krullboy

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:54 p.m. CST

    They better not fuck this up

    by chrth

    Seriously. They should've went with Gwen from the beginning: first movie, Doc Ock is the baddy, Captain Stacy is killed. Second movie, Green Goblin is the baddy, Gwen Stacy is killed. It would've been so easy to pull off. They're cowards, COWARDS I say. ... But they better kill her. And it needs to maybe be Spidey's fault.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Kind of Ironic

    by Macstone

    Does anyone else think that it's kind of ironic that Kirsten (a blond) colored her hair red for the MJ part. Now Bryce, (a red-head) is coloring her hair to play the blonde Gwen Stacy. Just thought it's kind of funny.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:55 p.m. CST

    ????

    by quadrupletree

    So who are the villans?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST

    I wonder if GG2 will drop her off the bridge?

    by Rindain

    I know the GG bridge scene in the first movie was supposed to foreshadow this.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST

    another nail in the coffin of this franchise

    by Tony Mike Hall

    Now they're going to fuck up the Gwen arc. Fucking wonderful. What a tragedy - this entire franchise has been an abomination.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    I just jizzed myself...

    by KAWS

    I'm loving this idea, backwards yes, but still--its about damn time, you know this to be true.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Yawn

    by Heckles

    Why is having Gwen Stacy cool again? The skirt has been teats up for what, a quarter of a century? Big wooop on a stick.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    You can always tell the losers

    by chrth

    The death of Gwen Stacy is one of the most important moments in comic book history; there's a reason there's an entire comic dedicated to it in Marvels.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Harry, thanks to the Babylon 5 guy, Gwen's a cheatin' wh

    by Tall_Boy

    Wonder if Rammi will have Gwen going down on some Goblin cock like JMS did.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Too bad the kids won't know how it really went down now

    by SpikeZoft

    All these kids'll grow up on the Spidey movies and not know about the real Gwen Stacy stories - the ones that basically defined Spider-man's motivation and story up until the whole Clone Saga and The Other storylines.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Spider-Ass 3 Will Own Your Man...

    by Kubla_Khan

    ....or something. Had to chime in on this, cos boy do I love me some Spidey. Gotta love Raimi, he loves throwing shit at Peter Parker 'til it piles up real high, and I reckon this is a very cool move. Is it me though, or does the actress look a little like that chick from Sex And The City? (Not that I know anything about Sex And The City of course...I'm fucking well hard.) But anyway, bringing in Gwen is genius. Raimi and Avi Arad know what they're doing, I have total faith, and I really hope that the rumours are true about 3 and 4 being shot back to back. The decisions that were made in 2 were all spot on for a fanboy like me. Brw, I'd really love just one shot where Spidey has web under his arms, just for the hell of it. And finally...don't kill MJ, I'm totally into Kirsten Dunst. I say, get the chicks together! Make it Spiderman: 3way. Ah, how quickly fanboys leave valid points behind and descend into wank fantasies...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:07 p.m. CST

    great... but

    by marcode

    why post a picture of Reba Mcentire?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Awesome...

    by El Scorcho

    Cool news indeed. Congrats on the scoop, Harry.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Oh man, I SOOOOOO knew this was gonna happen!!!

    by Annamaria

    Ever since Spidey 1, I've always wanted to have Gwen Stacey in the movies, cause I'm more of a Gwen fan than an MJ fan... and when Kirsten Dunst said she didn't want to do more than 3 movies, and Tobey was a little iffy on more too, I thought, well they should introduce Gwen in the third, and then if Kirsten leaves, instead of recasting and ruining the role, have her die or just leave or something, and you'll have Gwen ready to go in the fourth!!! AND NOW IT WILL HAPPEN!!!! THANK YOU SAM RAIMI!!!!!!!! but please God NO, don't follow the insane storyline with her and Norman that was just retarded... yea, it kinda pissed me off that her most famous scene in the comics (her death) was already used for MJ, and on the Spidey 2 DVD they said they basically combined MJ and Gwen into one character for MJ, so it does leave the question "what's left of Gwen that the real Gwen can be?"... but I trust Raimi, if he's been working on this script for the past year then it can't be bad... on a side note - I grew up with the Spidey movies (and X-Men, Superman, Batman, etc), but if your someone like me and from just watching the movie you get really attached, you'll research all this stuff, cause I've never picked up comic book in my life, and I know a hell of a lot just from reading shit online... and it's a great feeling to be almost on the same level as the fans who grew up with the comics, cause I don't feel like such an idiot when I'm around them...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Yeah, 'Sins Past' was a pretty horrible sodomy job on th

    by Silver_Joo

    I like Bryce Dallas Howard though. She's worth saving and if they do kill off Mary Jane, what a movie this could be.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:10 p.m. CST

    I seriously thought this was going to be whether Toph was Venom

    by vinceklortho

    But, it seems that bastard keeps dragging us along with this. Please, just post a pic of Topher as Eddie Brock for god's sake!!! Anyway, interesting news with this one. I love me Bryce...good casting choice. There could be too much going on with this movie already, which makes me slightly nervous but somewhat still psyched because Sam knows what he's doing.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:10 p.m. CST

    sacred text?

    by nicky

    as a long time Spidey fanatic and a somewhat less enthusiastic appreciator of the movies - this makes no sense to me. Mary Jane came 2nd for a lot of reasons, and her incarnation in the movies is sort of a combo of MJ, Gwen and Liz Allen from the old comics anyway. In my mind, the classic moment in Spider-man history was the death of Gwen's father years before... a police captain who always seemed on the verge of arresting Spider-Man or discovering his identity... who ends up revealing, in his last breath, that he knew who Peter was all along and now trusts him with his only daughter. At that moment, Peter loses a potential father and friend, but the tragedy of the loss is lightened by the knowledge that Gwen is still alive... though darkened again when she blames Spider-man for killing her father. After that, her death always seemed like overkill to me... leaving an impossibly scarred hero that could never return to the mix of wisecracking and angst we all love about the character. Maybe Raimi will do the Death of Cap Stacy thing, but there's no way it can ever be the same now that MJ is already there and she (along with half the city) has already seen Peter unmasked.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:11 p.m. CST

    LEAVE OUT GREEN GOBLIN

    by jimmy_009

    What part of "Green Goblin was the absolute worst part of the first movie" don't they understand?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST

    The Gwen Stacy news is very exciting, but something very weird i

    by Prof.Ikamono

    For a while, whenever I tried to click on anything at AICN, I got redirected to a blank white page with just this message: "The portal to the Phanton Zone is closed. Nothing to see here - Bizarro Doc" this lasted for at least an hour or so. I notified the webmaster but have not yet heard back. And now that everything's back to normal I see no sign that anybody else was effected. Does anybody know what the fuck happened?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:23 p.m. CST

    I love betty brandt

    by Funk4America

    I do. and I look just like Buddy Holly, and she's Mary Tyler Moore

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Why the fuck hasn't Jeff Goldblum been cast yet?

    by Canada's King

    But Spider-Man 3 is becoming pretty convoluted plot-wise, they'll have to make this one longer than the other two. We have Peter + MJ, Peter + Gwen, Gwen vs MJ vs Peter (inevitable), Spidey vs Identity revealed, Spidey vs Sandman, Spidey vs Venom (probably), Peter vs Daily Bugle and then an entire arc and a half involving Harry Osborne not to mention the shenanigans Aunt Mae will get herself into. This is easily the biggest film of the next two years - much more than Superman Returns - and after Spider-Man 2, people will be expecting a bigger, better, longer film. Damn I hope Raimi hits this one outta the park, but I hope he knows how to handle the dreaded third film in a trilogy - AND find a way to include Bruce Campbell somewhere...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST

    the sign

    by LeckoManiac

    was originally back when the "zone" talkback got started a while ago...I have no idea why it returned

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:24 p.m. CST

    At this rate

    by Ardee-El

    Parker's going to end up with Betty Brant in the final movie. I've said it before: Betty Brant should've been the main girl in the first movie, with Gwen Stacy a background role, moving up to center stage in the second movie, and Mary Jane an oft-referred-to-but never seen character who makes a va-va-va-voom entrance in the third movie. Ah well...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:29 p.m. CST

    WHY THE FUCK ISN'T SHE MARY JANE???!!! Bryce is simply gorg

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Fuck Sam!

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Canada's King, you're right...

    by vinceklortho

    This new news is mixing a ton of shit for this movie. My friend's roommate is working on the villans for the movie here in LA and he said that it's Sandman, Venom, AND the Hobgoblin. And, we all know about the third movie in a trilogy. Has there been one that has dusted the fuck out of the first two? Ever? Well, Return of the King...Revenge of the Sith....anything else, nerds? I'm trying to think here.....

  • She is COMPLETELY lacking the sex appeal that Mary Jane needs. This Gwen decision seems like a good one. Her eyes are the shit. Hopefully the new Green Goblin will be a MAN IN A GOBLIN SUIT with f/x MAKEUP...NOT plastic green armor. Just a thought. Oh yeah, will Toby McGuire stop being a whiney little bitch in Spider-Man 3?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:34 p.m. CST

    GWEN!!! Robogeek rejoices.

    by robogeek.com

    This is great news. And it would be among the greatest, gutsiest, coolest moves ever in a film franchise if they pulled a "What If?" reversal, killed M.J., and let Peter and Gwen live happily ever after instead. I would worship everyone involved for all time.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Seriously though, man Ron Howard...you did great work. I mean l

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Kudos...ps. Fuck Sam Raimi that lucky mother fucker has done a satifactory job. If it wasn't for America's yearning for Spidey, his work would be horrindous. (Spelling??)

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Fuck I'm wasted. Happy hour was BIG!

    by R.C. the "Wise"

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:49 p.m. CST

    shit, I got wasted just reading that!!

    by vinceklortho

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Finally Sam Raimi admits he fucked up when he ignored Gwen Stacy

    by Rant Breath

    Now if only he can admit he fucked up when he ignored MECHANICAL WEBSHOOTERS. And to anyone says webshooters is a dead horse FUCK OFF! Gwen Stacy was a dead horse too.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:52 p.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT this is fucking awesome

    by oscarmike

    and yeah ms. howard should have played M.J. but she works as gwen too. man this movie will kick so much ass. many thanx mr. knowles

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST

    I wish Bryce Howard looked a little more like Clint Howard...

    by JethroBodine

    ...like Kirsten Dunst does.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 6:55 p.m. CST

    This Disappoints Me

    by twitaman

    I have to admit I

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7 p.m. CST

    Making Bryce Howard blonde will be almost as unfortunate as what

    by FluffyUnbound

    Let's pretend that in the Raimiverse Gwen Stacy is a redhead. Is that a plan?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi has casting dyslexia

    by Rant Breath

    He cast Mary Jane(Bryce Howard) as Gwen Stacy, Gwen Stacy(Dunst) as Mary Jane, and he cast the ideal Spider-man(Topher Grace) as some other character. Tobey Maguire has proven he doesnt know how to play Peter Parker or Spider-man. Unless Peter Parker and Spider-man are supposed to be mouth-breathing retards. If that's the case Maguire is note perfect.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Dunst's MJ is pretty meh

    by superninja

    Dunst morphed MJ into a depressing schlump, so this is good news. Good actress, great character! I doubt MJ will die - just go away to pursue her acting career long enough for Gwen to take a dirtnap. Then MJ will be back, hopefully with improved posture and attitude.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Topher Grace as Spider-Man

    by twitaman

    I never thought about it until Rant Breath mentioned it, but now that I've heard it that sounds like it would've been a great idea. Why? Because even though I think Tobey is a great actor there's one crucial part of Spider-Man's character that I never thought he could handle well. And that's Spidey's sense of humor. The guy was a smart ass and that's one of the reasons I loved him as a kid. Jokes and quips fall flat out of Maquire's mouth. But I could totally see Topher handling that side of Spidey's personality easily. In addition, Grace is also a fine actor and could handle the dramatic parts too. Well, too bad he wasn't a bigger star when they cast the first film.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:10 p.m. CST

    What this movie needs is an appearance by the Rhino.

    by superninja

    Also, Spider-Man is supposed to be FUNNY, Raimi. F-U-N-N-Y!

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:12 p.m. CST

    twitaman

    by superninja

    Spider-Man isn't written funny in either of the two films. It seems Raimi forgot about that part of that character, which is pretty obvious when you think of it. Maguire can handle humor, Raimi is too caught up in angst. Hopefully to be rectified in the next movie.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST

    I also demand a Human Torch cameo (the best part of the FF film)

    by superninja

    and an appearance by Spidey's Van.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST

    AWESOME!!!

    by Nairb The Movie

    That's what I would be saying if these movies were any good... except for that whole part where they aren't. In fact... they suck very much. The worst superhero films ever made. Whose going to do the main song for this film? My Chemical Romance, I suppose. Angst filled, whinny, nonsensical, horribly casted, terrible camera work, piles of crap. Excellent casting... Too bad they didn't plan this ahead. They're just winging it and that equals convolution...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3: TOO MANY CHARACTERS!

    by Lance Rock

    Let's see, we got: Spidey, Mary Jane, Harry Osborn, Sandman, Venom, and now Gwen Stacy?!? I'm starting to get a sinking feeling about this one.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST

    You can have a lot of characters.

    by superninja

    But that means the filmmaker has to trust the audience and not write a backstory or explain everything. For instance, who cares about Sandman's origins if you are familiar enough with the whole concept at this point?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:30 p.m. CST

    What?!!! Reba McIntire is going to play Gwen Stacey?

    by Negative Man

    And no offense to those head-over-heels with Bryce, but she is far from 'all that'. Cute and attractive, but a prime example on how fame makes a person more attractive. If most of us passed her on the street and she wasn't an actress, we'd see her as pretty or cute...heck, maybe even pretty cute...but because of her fame many consider her 'hot' or 'gorgeous'.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:31 p.m. CST

    The Spider-man movies are so fucked up

    by AlwaysThere

    They went from a great comic and cartoon, to two horribly overrated and insanely budgeted movies full of silly lines and acting. Truly a disappointing series of movies.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:31 p.m. CST

    The Spider-man movies are so fucked up

    by AlwaysThere

    They went from a great comic and cartoon, to two horribly overrated and insanely budgeted movies full of silly lines and acting. Truly a disappointing series of movies.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:31 p.m. CST

    And a thing to remember about lots of characters

    by Bass Ackwards

    Yes, there are many, but most are already established from the previous movies, so the groundwork is already done, really we're only getting 3 new characters. Its not like X3 where the entire comic history is being crammed into one film, there are a lot of characters cause there have been two films that have done the work to earn that many characters by this point.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Good casting

    by Ribbons

    Bryce Dallas Howard is a good ac-tress, plus she's purty, plus she just seems to give off the right vibe. I don't know what they have planned for the character, but at least they got a good actor for the job.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:37 p.m. CST

    My prediction

    by Immortal_Fish

    Mary Jane dies and Gwen becomes the Black Cat. If not now, then in another sequel. So much for any fans of 4-color Felicia. BTW, I'd like to be wrong.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Who The Hell Is Casting The SPIDERMAN Pictures!!!

    by Eh-Nam

    First they Cast Ugly Ass Dunst For Mary Jane(what the hell) and Know this chick whoo is at least better looking than that Snagletooth crosseyed Dunst but still what the Hell!!!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Immortal_Fish

    by Prof.Ikamono

    I can see why you'd like to be wrong, that idea is almost as dumb as having Gwen come back after she dies as a clone, and then for Peter to find out he'd been cloned and that the clone was actually the original and that he was the clone, and ... oh.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Doc?

    by Prof.Ikamono

    If you're reading this, I'd still like to know what the hell happened earlier, it's really starting to seem like it only happened to me. I hope you can see how that would freak someone out.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Hot damn....

    by Archduke_Chocula

    It would be interesting for Sam to switch the roles for the imminent death of Peter's loved one. I really got no problem with it, I just view the movies as another series of the character, ala ultimate Spider-Man and those other series that aren't "Amazing Spider-Man". It is very funny how if you switched Dunst and Howard you'd have had it perfect from the getgo...I can't wait to see what fun Sam Raimi has with The Sandman in terms of action.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Perfect plan for future Spidey movies...

    by Annamaria

    Prof.Ikamono, thanks for reminding me... the best way to solve everyone's casting problems is to do the whole clone thing, have Topher as the Clone Spidey, let him kick Tobey's ass, and there's our new and improved Spiderman! that might work out pretty well... I mean, Topher's part IS "unknown" at the moment, so who knows? It could really be that he is playing Clone Spidey... (in my dreams)

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Ass backwards on 2 levels

    by Mr. Profit

    One because wasnt James Cameron intent on doing Spiderman 1, but was turned down because he wanted to make the first movie about Gwen Stacy? Two because they cast an ugly blonde to play the beautiful Mary Jane. Now they pick an ugly red head to play the beautiful Gwen Stacy. What gives? What homo is casting Spiderman? Why cant they get beautiful actresses? Was Rachel McAdams or Scarlett Johanssen unavailable? What the fuck?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:14 p.m. CST

    I hope it doesn't suffer from bloat

    by twitaman

    Once again, I hope they don't try to do too much in this next movie with all these characters. To be honest I'm getting sick of 2.5 - 3 hour summer flicks that are overstuffed and filled with crap better suited for DVD extras. Please Raimi, be kind to our butts! Learn a lesson from Kong.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I'm seriousley conflicted on this news.

    by Shermdawg

    Story at 11.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    harry

    by algram

    I started reading the Ebert Blog and came across this great article: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060112/SCANNERS/60112002 then I found this really cool article, and I have to say that I completely agree with it. Of course opinions are subjective, but the ridiculous praise that Harry seems to give to certain movies is just sad, I also didn

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Also, Old School Lohan would have been perfect for Mary Jane. Do

    by Mr. Profit

    Seriously Spidey 3 needed to stat off by recasting Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst used to look cute but then she got so fucking ugly. In Spidey 2 the part at the diner when the car hurls through the glass, her face is Cameron Diaz baggy and she looks like she needs a Rembrandt whitening for her crooked ass teeth.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Ideally...

    by dimnix

    ...they woulda done Gwen in the first film, and Bryce Dallas Howard looks like pretty good casting so lets say they used her. She's in the MJ character. And following the comics, she gets dropped from the bridge and dies. MJ comes in in spidey 2 or 3... but not played by dunst. Maybe Scarlett Johansson sporting the red hair. But, oh well. What's done is done.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:29 p.m. CST

    HECK YES!!!!

    by Sakurai

    Bryce Howard was amazing in the villige. I am really excited about this one.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Don't know the comics, but this works for me if they're

    by chickychow

    I was so unexcited when KD was cast and I've felt assaulted by her unappealing presence in both films. I want her to die in the first 10 minutes, which A) thankfully gets rid of her B) gives Peter Parker an intriguing arc and C)allows them to introduce their new, and more talented, love interest. All for it. (now if we can just get rid of Topher Grace...)

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi has hit the ball out of the park! GREAT casting decis

    by Ivan_Mtl

    What a truly inspired choice to play Gwen Stacy. Bryce Howard is as talented as she is beautiful, and I can't think of any other actress in Hollywood that I would prefer to see in the role. Like her comic book counterpart, I am absolutely convinced that she will steal our hearts much like she stole M. Knight's The Village in her big screen debut. Best casting news of 2006. 'Nuff Said

  • Kirsten only originally signed for 3 Spider-Man films and would surely want an 8 figure deal to resign again for 3 more, which I doubt Sony would want to offer, as Tobey will also be demanding an expensive deal for 3 more films.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:38 p.m. CST

    and how I PRAY that Harry doesnt turn into another fuckin Green

    by chickychow

    I'll take a CG Hobgoblin over another Mighty Morphin Power Goblin any fuckin day of this week.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:42 p.m. CST

    alrgram...

    by dimnix

    ...what the fuck are you on about? Quint isn't mentioned in either of the two pages you linked to.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:48 p.m. CST

    @dimnix

    by algram

    you

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Aww.... I wanted BLACK CAT

    by IAmLegolas

    But then again, it would be like Catwoman with Batman all over again and I guess maybe they felt it was a been there, done that sorta of thing (?) But this is kind of weird news since they combined a lot of Gwen Stacy's storyline in the previous movies. Hmm.... but I trust in Raimi and I still dig that the guy from WINGS is playing The Sandman.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Great articles, algram

    by IAmLegolas

    But who comes here for Harry and Moriarty? Better reviews and news can be found elsewhere. The fun is in these unruly talkbacks. Oh and Vern. It's all about the Vern.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:58 p.m. CST

    First of all...

    by ewokstew

    Bryce Howrad ain't that pretty. Remember, she has the the same genes in her that spawned Clint Howard. Her looks could go south in a minute. And as far as her being Gwen goes, even worse. You have a girl with that pale, pinkish cast skin, she'll look horrible in blonde hair. Why the heck don't they get Scarlett Jo' to do this?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 8:58 p.m. CST

    If Ivan_Mtl isn't a studio plant, then he's a fucking we

    by Uncooked_Meat

    "What a truly inspired choice to play Gwen Stacy. Bryce Howard is as talented as she is beautiful, and I can't think of any other actress in Hollywood that I would prefer to see in the role. Like her comic book counterpart, I am absolutely convinced that she will steal our hearts much like she stole M. Knight's The Village in her big screen debut. Best casting news of 2006. 'Nuff Said" Seriously - how planty was that? Weirdest post of the day, and on AICN, that's saying something.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Bryce

    by algram

    @Iamlegolas thanx man. Has anyone seen the Dogville sequel she starred in? She looks nice in the Lady in the Water promos, and was the only redeemable thing from the Village, hoping for the best, although I am not a fan of the 1st Spiderman movie, Spiderman 2 rocked with it

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:05 p.m. CST

    "One because wasnt James Cameron intent on doing Spiderman 1"

    by Bass Ackwards

    Cameron gave up on the project cause Spidey was caught in a bunch of contract bullshit, and no one could move it into production.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Mr. Profit...

    by Ribbons

    ...yeah, fuck Bryce Dallas Howard and Kirsten Dunst! Those dogs! Get Scarlett Johansson and Lindsay Lohan to play Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane! Um, thanks, but no thanks.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Yeah, they should have done a Black Cat seducing Peter storyline

    by performingmonkey

    Or maybe they're going to totally screw with everything and combine Gwen with Black Cat. I don't think Mary-Jane is going to die at the end of this like people are predicting. It would be the big suckass end to everything and Peter would have no motivation 'cause she's dead. If Dunst is leaving then I think MJ will just decide that she has to move away from Peter. Maybe Peter kills Harry and she sees it. I like the idea of them kind of replacing MJ with Gwen. Hell, she could even go her own redhead. But, of course, Gwen may die. I actually think this will be the last movie, then there'll be a string of straight to DVD shitfests featuring all the fuckass villains that didn't make it to the big screen. Just to please the fanboys. If Raimi ain't doing it, I ain't watching it. And I can't see him going beyond the trilogy. Maybe in this one Harry will have a knife at Aunt May's throat and this will force Peter to kill him.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Next movie I wanna see the Sinister Six! It will be the most exp

    by Flim Springfield

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:22 p.m. CST

    I always thought GG2 was called Hob Goblin.

    by J-Dizzle

    Or did those Spiderman cartoons misinform me?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:29 p.m. CST

    2 Green Goblins and one Hobgoblin

    by Bass Ackwards

    At least two GGs of importance, Norman and Harry (3 if you want to count Bart Hamilton). Hobgoblin is a related, but separate villain from the Green Goblins though.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:30 p.m. CST

    umm... not to tell you how to make a movie...

    by Kauzi Sezso

    but is there a plot?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Heres how I would have setup the first 2 flicks.

    by Shermdawg

    MOVIE 1: Nothing but origin, you meet Pete, The Parkers, The Osborns, and Gwen. MJ is the Chloe to Pete's Clark Kent. Ben is killedl, Pete stops a hostage crisis of some kind, everything ends on a high note. MOVIE 2: Harry on drugs, Norman on Goblin Juice, Gwen in a casket, Petes head crying on MJ's shoulder. Ends on a downer. Nuff said. Nuff said.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:34 p.m. CST

    BTW, I love the casting of Bryce, but I think that they've a

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Scarlett Johansson as the Gwen Stacey Clone!

    by Kauzi Sezso

    ...just a thought.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Johannsson is too busy doing artsy films and The Island 2: Maybe

    by Terry_1978

    Scarlett is too "above" this trifle.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Why Not?

    by The Only Woj

    Why not recast Bryce as MJ and dump Kirsten 'The Troll' Dunst?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 10:10 p.m. CST

    I woulda figured she'd make a better Vicki Vale in Batman

    by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx

    Shows where my head's at. Good call though for Raimi, though.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I just had a vision

    by bib fortuna

    of Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane.. <shiver>. Three villains and a new main character? I hope hope hope he pulls it off.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 10:38 p.m. CST

    ok...

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    i love gwen stacy but that howard girl just isnt very attractive. at least in that pic. and hell, i even go for red heads!

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    I hope it&#39;s a lot more Spiderman 2 than Spiderman

    by The Wrong Guy

    The original film was about as mediocre as you could get. The second was rousing entertainment- funny and exciting, though still hampered by some god-awful dialogue. They fix the dialogue up, and keep everything else on par or even better than 2, than all will be well.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11 p.m. CST

    Would love to have seen Allison Mack as Gwen Stacey

    by Jack_Bauer

    ^^

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:07 p.m. CST

    heres how it should go

    by puter1803

    somehow get to a situation where both mj and gwen have to be saved, probably on a bridge like the first movie alluded to, and make it to where gwen does in fact die bc spidey decides to go after mj first, after all this build up of gwen kinda falling ga ga for peter and peter dealing with staying true to mj so we kinda feel sorry for gwen. thatd have some impact u think? maybe not have it till the end of 4. or maybe have that whole situation reversed with mj and gwen. hell i dunno.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Does this mean he&#39;s cheating on MJ?

    by Chief Redcock

    or at least considering the possibility? Doesn&#39;t seem very heroic...

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:23 p.m. CST

    i take that back. the girl IS pretty. it was just a bad photo.

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:30 p.m. CST

    All these new characters...

    by Logo Lou

    kinda made sense when it was rumored they were gonna shoot 3 & 4 at the same time. Could it still be the case?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:34 p.m. CST

    About 3 AND 4...

    by dr_dreadlocks

    Shooting those films back to back would be such a monstrous endeavor that there would be a lot of heat around the idea. Considering that Sony would have to pony up 400 million dollars to get things moving, I don&#39;t think it&#39;d happen without a shitload of press. I think they&#39;re just shooting 3 for now... but who knows?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Good & bad news...

    by Mattchew

    Ya gotta love Gwen Stacey, and it doesn

  • Would be to kill Mary Jane in the movie series and have Gwen carry on? I mean aren&#39;t we all a little sick of Dunst now?

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:41 p.m. CST

    PS: My opinion on perfect casting for Gwen...

    by Mattchew

    While I love the idea of the current casting, I&#39;d love to have seen Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) play this part. She is PERFECT, but I can more than live with this choice. I think she&#39;ll bring way more to the role and Dunst did to MJ (although that last &#39;go get em tiger&#39; kicked a fare amount of ass).

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, I don&#39;t know what I&#39;m more shocked about, tha

    by axelfoley

    The most random news since Lightstormer giving me shit because I don&#39;t kiss James "King of the World" Cameron&#39;s taint. Excuse me, where is my head at? I dunno where Gwen&#39;s going to fit at this point in time. Am I, as a Spidey freak happy she&#39;s in.....Well, yeah, but I dunno. Ron Howard&#39;s daughter looks like a young Marion Ross, not Gwen Stacy. Second, GG is dead, Peter,MJ and Harry are out of high school. There is no Flash around, again--Where the hell is Gwen going to be finagled into this thing? Is Raimi trying to hard? First Venom? Character&#39;s awful. Then Sandman, who I love, and with THC taking on the role it owns all of you. But I hope that Black Cat rumor died with the Denver Bronco&#39;s chances of winning the AFC title game. Good luck Raimi, although judging from the solid job you did with the first two, you probably won&#39;t need it.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Anyone curious about Howard&#39;s redhead status should check ou

    by Nate Champion

    Emphasis on the "LAY"... if you know what I mean.

  • Jan. 18, 2006, 11:56 p.m. CST

    And one more thing.....if I were casting this film, I&#39;d pick

    by axelfoley

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Nice job of stretching out the talkback Homewrecker!

    by Lezbo Milk

    Jeez.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Or maybe Jack Bauer who did it? Stop with the huge URLS already

    by Hot Carl

    Good god man.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Ideal casting for Gwen Stacey would, of course be Scarlett Johan

    by R.C. the "Wise"

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:43 a.m. CST

    How&#39;s this for a nitpick?

    by Aragorn II

    How will they explain Gwen Stacy&#39;s name on the headstone at the end of the first Spider-Man flick? Or is it all much more convoluted than we even imagine??? Mwahahaha!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:44 a.m. CST

    You know, there is a little thing called TinyURL.com...

    by Ribbons

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Pretty clever idea plotwise

    by eg4190

    If they&#39;d done the Gwen Stacy story in the first movie, all the geeks would know exactly how it was going to end. Plus most of the audience knows Mary Jane as Spidey&#39;s girlfriend, but has never heard of Gwen. Now there&#39;s an element of unpredictability -- are they still going to kill off Gwen in the movies or switch things around? Nice work.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Recast for the next 3 movies, Peter-Cruise, MJ-Halle Berry, Aunt

    by performingmonkey

    Suck it. You know you all would.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:52 a.m. CST

    I love Brandy Brandt

    by docfalken

    oh, sorry. I&#39;m showing my age again. What were you talking about?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:53 a.m. CST

    YeAHhhh!!!!!!! That is GREAT news! Bryce Howard is very talent

    by JDanielP

    Bryce Howard, ...you go, girl.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 1:58 a.m. CST

    I LOVED......

    by Shermdawg

    THE VILLAGE!!! Bite me.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Apart from the fact she&#39;s a hottie...

    by dr_buggerlugs

    ...she&#39;s a damn good actress and evidently there has to something great in the script to get such a good cast together (for a superhero sequel no less) - and given that Raimi has announced his follow up to Spiderman 3 (the Pratchett adaptation), I get the feeling that if this is his final throw of the Spiderdice, he&#39;s aiming to go out in a bit of style. Plus with all these characters, I suspect he&#39;s going to try and throw as much shit at Peter Parker as I possibly can in about 2 and a half hours and guess what, we&#39;re gonna have a ball watching it....

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Having read spiderman for several years...

    by PurityOfEssence

    I was not aware that Gwen Stacey was THE MOST beloved character in the history Spiderman. A beloved character to be sure. Sounds good to me, casting seems good. Changing subjects however: Brodester, I have to disagree with you: "VENOM is the character with the most intrigue... VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM... and possibly carnage! And spidey in the symbiote costume!" Venom can be intriguing at first, I however have a hard time taking that particular character very seriously, Venom in the comics became what is essentially a caricature of himself, the type of character that was so ridiculously over the top as time went on (yes over the top for this medium is hard). To be fair however this is more a product of the shameless over use of this character by Marvel (second only to the exploitation of Wolverine... though I still find Wolverine to be one of my favorite characters, go figure. Fuck, I still have that retarded Wolverine and Venom crossover that they did in the late 90&#39;s - god it was awful, but I was a completist, damnit. When you peal away all the crap and look at Wolverine you still have a solid character.) Venom is a mixed bag, if done well he could be interesting, but considering the track record with the handling of the villains in the previous movies: Green Goblin was okay, but I but the design was weak - Doc Ock solid performance, great design, but that movie just fell apart by the end (precious tritium my ass, they use that shit in fucking pistol and rifle sights for fuck&#39;s sake so god damn retarded, and to prevent the miniature sun from taking on mass and destroying the city you what dump it in the fucking river, and what it will stop, a self-contained nuclear inferno will be doused by the Hudson. The Pseudo-science in most comic books isn&#39;t even that fucking juvenile anymore, god damnit). Anyway, I would like to see Spiderman have the symbiote costume (or at least see the black suit in some form on screen). But as far as Venom being good news, no, I just fear that he will be an awful, awful screen character.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Bryce Howard is nice, but kindof a Butterface.

    by Walterego

    I spent The Village thinking about how much she resembled her father. I don&#39;t want to put her down, she is a very talented actress, but anyone posting that she is beautiful is seeing something that I just don&#39;t. When I glanced at the picture of Bryce above I actually thought it was Cynthia Nixon from Sex & the City. I think you&#39;re all faulting Kirsten Dunst because she didn&#39;t mirror the MJ you imagined based on your impression of the comic book MJ. For the rest of the world Dunst was great as MJ. She had a real sweetness and tender quality that eclipsed her attractivness. But for a character that is written as a real beauty it will be distracting if they cast someone who is not particularly beautiful, and more of a tomboy. I would rather see any of the actresses mentioned by the posters above instead of Howard. Then again, maybe the casting of Howard indicates that they made sheer likability the priority. Like her father, Howard is the sort of person you&#39;d love as a pal, someone so nice audiences immediately feel sympathy for her, which would make her violent death all the more tragic. If that is how they present her, as a sweet girl who is Peter&#39;s object of affection rather than of passion then that could work. Although Allison Hannigan might&#39;ve been a better choice in that regard (same undeniable likability, but cuter). If they&#39;ve announced it then there is no changing at this point and nothing to do but wait for the finished product. Maybe they can use all that CGI magic to make her a knockout. That would be a true revolutionary use of CGI, for hollywood to start casting actresses purely on acting ability and then let the CGI make them look like Scarlett Johanssen. They could have one DVD cut where the actress looks skinny and waifish and one where she has the curves bangin. Instead of arguing about her hair colour and the poor actress having to dye it, you just select with your DVD remote what colour her hair is. Click! and Scarlett Johanssen turns into Zhang Zyi. Click! again and she is "old school" Lindsay Lohan. Or Natalie Portman. And all along the actress playing her is a chubby girl with an overbite and a unibrow who graduated top of her class at Juliard. Or a brilliant Shakespearean prodigy who studied acting at the Sorbonne and has a faint moustache, giant mossy clumps of armpithair, and a slight curvature of the spine. Wardrobe costs would be slashed as all she would need to wear is that unitard Andy Serkis wore when playing Gollum and King Kong, but what you see is Angelina Jolie in a wet t-shirt.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 4:27 a.m. CST

    I never seen her in a movie

    by Vern

    They say she&#39;s good. If so, it&#39;ll be the first worthwhile thing that no good shiftless rat soup eating motherfucker Ron Howard ever created. And yes, I&#39;m including Happy Days.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 3

    by emeraldboy

    With the half a trillion dollars they have from Merrill Lynch. There will be Spidey 4 at some stage. With an all new cast. maybe.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Actually are we sure she&#39;s playing Gwen?

    by dr_buggerlugs

    She could be playing CARNAGE! YEAH WOW COOL...CARNAGE ROX! SHE&#39;S REALLY GOING TO BE THE BASTARD LOVE CHILD OF THE SYMBIOTE LA LA LA LA LA LA...WHICH IS A SCI FI VERSION OF GLENN CLOSE FROM FATAL ATTRACTION! THEN WE CAN HAVE VENOM VS CARNAGE! WOW, VENOM LIKE ERM...ER...ROX! Or maybe not...

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:15 a.m. CST

    Screw all that other noise

    by Reverendz

    The villians should be: Kingpin and electro. Venom is like the Evil Kirk to Spiderman, only marginally interesting and just there for the gore. )))) ))) ))) The Kingpin, on the other hand, is the perfect foil for spidey. He is physically imposing, he is well connected and powerful, he gets away with murder and whatever else he wants by bribing corrupt or scared politicians. Not exactly someone spiderman can just knock out and tie up for the authorities. Electro is his enforcer, powerful but not intelligent.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:56 a.m. CST

    This is great news, but come on Avi, it&#39;s time to reveal who

    by brokentusk

    Bryce Howard is a great actress and will probably fit in with the other members of the SPIDER-MAN cast with ease. That said, I think everyone here mainly wants to find out who Topher Grace will be playing in the next film. If everyone wants to know so badly, why keep teasing and being coy, why not just tell us already before the plan backfires and people stop caring?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6 a.m. CST

    Vern

    by Peven

    damn, man, you take me to task for being too harsh for calling Tom Clancy a propogandist hack for the GOP, then turn around and claim Ron Howard has never produced anything worthwile in his entire life after calling him a shiftless rat soup eating motherfucker? hypocrisy much?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:13 a.m. CST

    VinceKlortho

    by GingerTwit

    I was wondering if you&#39;ve watched Ghostbusters with the subtitles turned on. You&#39;ve spelled your name wrong dude!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Kingpin can&#39;t appear in a Spider-Man movie

    by eg4190

    It&#39;s a contractual thing. I believe different studios own the rights to Daredevil ad Spider-Man, so they came to an arrangement wherein Kingpin can only appear in Daredevil movies.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:23 a.m. CST

    just like with LOTR

    by Peven

    its ironic, so many hardcore fans of the source material for Spiderman and LOTR are the harshest critics and bashers of the cinematic incarnations of the books and comics. makes me glad i am able to enjoy the movies without such baggage to get in the way. maybe those who seem so enraged and distraught would prefer a movie was never made based on their literary/comic favorite? seriously, it isn&#39;t as if making some changes during the translation from page to big screen is anything new in movies, so why should it be so shocking now? in the original Jaws book, Hooper gets eaten by the shark, but you don&#39;t see people screaming and crying that because he lives in the movie that Jaws just can&#39;t be good because Spielberg didn&#39;t respect the source material. maybe spidey fans should be more appreciative that a 3rd Spiderman movie is on its way, while fans of other comics and books are still waiting to see their favorites given $200 million budgets for a big screen translation. for some, the glass is always half empty i guess.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:49 a.m. CST

    GAWD...

    by Karl Childers

    If they want to make a correction for these films, they need to quit making Peter Parker such a pussy. How the fuck could he handle another broad to mope over? His character was handled too cheesily in the first two movies being "so in love" with MJ. Fucking ridiculous....and fuck Venom as a character. Somebody said it before, bring in the Sinister Six already. Bring back Doc Ock, and add Rhino, Kraven, Sandman, Electro, and even HobGobby.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:23 a.m. CST

    I&#39;d just like to point out!!

    by Shigeru

    That I called this when there were rumors of a blonde being cast!!!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Have Faith!

    by Sean38

    Spider-Man 2 is EASILY the best superhero movie ever made (and I&#39;m including The Incredibles) so have a little faith. I, too, was hoping for the Black Cat storyline. It would have dovetailed PERFECTLY into Mary Jane&#39;s expression as Peter swung away at the end of 2. How long before worried turns into nagging which turns into, "I don&#39;t want you to be Spider-Man anymore." Then along comes Black Cat, a woman who not only accepts Peter as Spider-Man but loves him because he IS Spider-Man. But it looks as if they&#39;ve decided to go another way. But after Spider-Man 2, Raimi and company have earned my trust. I can&#39;t wait.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Huh?...

    by Wungolioth

    I&#39;d read somewhere that Raimi&#39;s intention with the MJ character was for her to be a combination of MJ and Gwen Stacy from the comics. Doesn&#39;t adding Gwen now make it a bit redundant?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Too Much for One film?

    by w_woody

    This just seems like adding trying to add to much to one movie. Maybe the rumors of 3 and 4 being filmed simultainiously are true.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Her eyes are so beautiful...

    by Anna Valerious

    Of course, this probably leads into another love triangle in the movie series...you had MJ going out with Harry in the first one, MJ almost marrying JJJ&#39;s son in the second one, and now it&#39;s time for Peter to make her jealous...payback? I do think so.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Dude I said Old School Lohan, the one from Mean Girls. Not the c

    by Mr. Profit

    Who suffers from Coke Overdoses and blames "Exaustion". And I don&#39;t see nothing wrong with loving the way Johansson is just as much hot as she is talented.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:02 a.m. CST

    I don&#39;t get it...isn&#39;t it too late to bring her in?

    by minderbinder

    Spidey&#39;s pretty much hooked on MJP at this point, are they going to break them up AGAIN just to shoehorn her in? Plus they already used her death situation in the first movie...but copped out on it, one of a number of really weak spots in the first film. The sequel was great, I&#39;d rather see them keep things simple and just make another solid spidey flick than worry too much about squeezing in too many characters and subplots.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Also agree with the Kristen Bell and Elisha Cuthbert suggestions

    by Mr. Profit

    Kristen Bell is cute, charming, and funny. She could have totally played a potential new love interest who charms Spidey and then tragically dies (If that is what they are doing here.) I wonder if Spidey 3 will be like the comics when MJ got jealous that PP was out webslinging and saving people and not paying her attention and spending time with her. If they do that, that could explain why he could start falling for someone new. Still puzzling news though.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Back in the early &#39;90s (I think it was, anyway)...

    by Kid Z

    ... I was in NYC in the Museum of Natural History, turned a corner, and there, in front of a giant model of a forest floor, was Ron Howard pushing a his red-haired little daughter in a stroller. Of course my redneck (now ex) wife exclaimed loudly, "Hey! It&#39;s OPIE!" Christ I was embarassed... hicks... you can&#39;t take &#39;em anywhere! Anyway, Ron was cool, he just grinned and looked at us like he expected us to talk to him. But, I was too damn embarassed and just sort of stupidly saluted him as I suggested to the (now) ex that we go look at dino bones. Whatever, Ron&#39;s cool and his daughter grew up real nicely. Life is good!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:15 a.m. CST

    YUCK-HOWARD IS UGLY

    by DannyOcean01

    She is no Gwen Stacy? First a crack whore for MJ and now this minger. Are they trying to make Spiderman the ugliest superhero franchise ever?? And no, this isn&#39;t startling news. Where else are they going to get conflict from?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:22 a.m. CST

    What about the anorexic Russian neighbor?

    by rev_skarekroe

    Where&#39;s she going to come in?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:29 a.m. CST

    I&#39;ll tell you exactly whats going to happen

    by GingerTwit

    MJ is going to die :)

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Kirstin Bell...YES

    by Sean38

    That&#39;s genius. Too bad it&#39;s not going to happen.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:40 a.m. CST

    It IS ironic casting

    by somethingreal81

    Not just cause of the hair color switch, but also because Bryce only got her breakout role in The Village after Kirsten Dunst dropped out to do Elizabethtown. Good choice Kirsten! Even more ironic...Ashton Kutcher was originally cast in The Village, but also dropped out b/c of scheduling conflicts. Then he got canned from Elizabethtown cause he can&#39;t act his way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in it.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Seems weird that this is the news built up from the Hulk 2 BS ar

    by HypeEndsHere

    just sayin&#39;... also, you guys think this girl is hot? weird mother fuckers.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Yack

    by Peven

    hey man, long time no see. i understand what you are saying about the movies not adherering to the comic plotline, and thats why someone like me who read some spidey comics as a kid but just here and there is more able to enjoy the movies without having to reconcile original comic canon. still, its just one of those facts-of-life things that when something in print gets adapted for the big screen there are changes made 99% of the time, for various reasons. we haven&#39;t seen how Raimi is going to handle Gwen&#39;s character yet, but when we do, i&#39;d say THATS when its time to judge how it works within the context of the storyline he has established through 1 and 2. accept the separation between the movies and the comic, and that will allow you to enjoy the movies more.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 9:42 a.m. CST

    MJ DID come first

    by andenu

    in the comics ... whoever said she didn&#39;t - learn your history young man!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Flexo! not to go off topic...

    by Prof.Ikamono

    But just like everybody seems to "know" to contact Peter Parker or Clark Kent if they want to get to Spidey or Supes, Let Ben Gibbs aka BendersShinyAss know that I dug his films. Interesting accent, not exactly English is it? Australian? South African?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Hey, She Looks SuperCute To Me!

    by ZombieSolutions

    I always loved Gwen Stacy too. Just (platinum) blonde her up and I think she&#39;ll do just fine. Both Ms. Howard and Ms. Dunst are lovely, lovely ladies. If you don&#39;t agree, perhaps you should do a re-evaluation of your sexual orientation? Tobey Maguire may be more to your taste.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Wait long enough and Charles Nelson Riley will be cast

    by Drebin

    I think they&#39;re trying to squeeze a bit too much into this thing. It&#39;s turning into a Robert Altman film.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Dunst is Undeniably Lovely

    by Sean38

    But she&#39;s WRONG for Mary Jane. Mary Jane is a sexpot with a heart of gold. She&#39;s gorgeous, voluptuous and a little bit dangerous. She just a hint of stripper in her...know what I mean? Someone like Elisza Cuthbert (if you gave her red hair) more closely matches my ideal on screen Mary Jane than Dunst. Scarlett Johannson might also be able to pull off her smoldering sexuality. Dunst just comes off as a little girl. I still love the movies, but that part is miscast.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Malcolm in the Middle kid is the One True Peter Parker.

    by Borgnine JR

    You know it in your little web covered hearts.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Yes, technically MJ was in the comics first if it counts...

    by Prof.Ikamono

    To be mentioned as "Anna Watson&#39;s Neice" in #15, Mentioned by name in #16, "Seen" face obscured in issues 25 and 38. Peter and the rest of us did not meet MJ until she walked in the door and said "Tiger you just hit the jackpot!" in issue 42. Gwen of course was introduced in issue 31. If this doesn&#39;t give me geek cred nothing will.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Bryce is beautiful, go google her.

    by Shermdawg

    Lord knows I would google that. :P

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Sorry about the long url before and thanks for removing it

    by Jack_Bauer

    http://tinyurl.com/bau6z theres a short url of Allison Mack, for those suggesting Kristen Bell she is really similar to her.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Sorry Jack_Bauer Bell is cuter.

    by Mr. Profit

    But Allison Mack is cute in a nice girl way. Where is she from?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Nevermind.... Smallville.

    by Mr. Profit

    Used ol reliable...IMDB.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Since when is film casting based on hair color?!

    by Kampbell-Kid

    I love it when the degenerate wastes of space on this planet surface up to post something like "so they cast a blonde as MJ and a red head as Gwen". So? It&#39;s called hair dye asshole. lol According to that theory if a film was casting a nappy haired crackwhore every homeless junkie on the street would be up for the part. God forbid we cast someone talented for a part over hair color. Nice call superhero. >.>

  • But the problem is she is first and foremost the "girl next door" in the films so far. The sweet girl next door you have a crush on does not have "smoldering sexuality". And yes I&#39;m familiar with the comics before you flame me.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Re:Mr Profit

    by Jack_Bauer

    Southern California i think. She&#39;s on smallville at the moment and is being criminally underused, frustrating that they always push the less talented kreuk and durance to the fore and Mack is left as a background player.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Christopher Reeve didn&#39;t actually have black hair...

    by Prof.Ikamono

    and Halle Berry doesn&#39;t actually have white hair...yet.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:55 a.m. CST

    "go with that dude who plays next to Heath Ledger in the fag cow

    by Kampbell-Kid

    We&#39;ll remind Ang Lee to call you when he starts casting for stereotypes in his new angsty trailer park epic. ;)

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 10:58 a.m. CST

    by ipfgodfather

  • Hehe

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:10 a.m. CST

    UGGGGH!!!

    by ipfgodfather

    Could they have chosen a FUGLIER actress for Gwen Stacey??? Since they flipflopped her and MJ&#39;s histories to a certain extent in Spidey 1, maybe they can leave her out of PP&#39;s lovelife and just be a friend?? Hopefully, he will get with Betty Brandt, Elizabeth Banks is SMOKING hot!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Face It Tiger...

    by Sean38

    ...MJ is a sex pot. Just look at her first ever line in any of the comics. "Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot." If those aren&#39;t the words of a woman who KNOWS just how much of a babe she is and knows her effect on men, I don&#39;t know what are.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    On this hair color thing...

    by Anna Valerious

    I personally think they&#39;re being good about it...unlike Tilda Swinton, who&#39;s claiming that &#39;we don&#39;t see enough bad light-haired people in the movies&#39;. Excuse me? Do you even watch movies? Why don&#39;t you just admit you refused to dye your hair or wear a wig because you&#39;re acting like a complete diva? I mean, she was way better than that lady in the Beeb one, but come on, we all grew up with Pauline Barnes&#39; illustrations, why did she have to screw with it? -end of rant-

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Absolutely correct Sean38

    by Prof.Ikamono

    Which is why she went on to become a successful model/actress. Gwen on the other hand had a naive unconsciousness about her own beauty. No less breathtaking, however. Bryce does have that innocent quality, I&#39;m looking forward to seeing what is done with this, Raimi is too much of a fanboy not to know better than to fuck this up.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Sean38

    by Shigeru

    I know it&#39;s that way in the comics. It&#39;s just not that way in the movies as they presented it. I&#39;m not losing any sleep over it.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Next they&#39;ll get Beyonce to play Liz Allen

    by MrBoinfoint

    And she&#39;ll end up marrying Parker.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Holy shit, it&#39;s true! JoBlo.com: Variety&#39;s Michael Flemi

    by brokentusk

    Now THIS is great news.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:57 a.m. CST

    I want a movie about CAPTAIN MAR-VELL!!!

    by Mike Nesmith

    The Kree-Skrull Wars...everything!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, noon CST

    Does Variety say who confirmed that for Fleming?

    by jim

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Yea, Variety didn&#39;t really confirm anything

    by Bass Ackwards

    Just in reporting about Bryce, the guy wrote Church is playing Sandman and Grace is Venom. But he wrote it more like its assumed info to fill in the article about Bryce rather than breaking news, which makes me think he hasn&#39;t heard anything new or had something confirmed, just didn&#39;t realize that no one has officially said Grace is Venom. Doesn&#39;t mean its not true, but it doesn&#39;t look like there&#39;s any actual new news on that front (though god damn, that Jo-Blo site has the Bryce Howard pic that this site SHOULD be using).

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:11 p.m. CST

    You see, that&#39;s just it Kampbell Kid. It IS called hair dye

    by FluffyUnbound

    Hair dye blows. You might as well say they could cast Joan Rivers for the part and have her get another face lift. They would be better off declaring MJ a dirty blonde. That would be better than the awful dye job they had Dunst get. And if they want to use this actress, they would be better of declaring Gwen Stacy a redhead, because going redhead to blonde is going to make this girl look horrible. She will probably look even worse than Alba did as a blonde, if that&#39;s possible. [I would even have preferred a brunette Invisible Girl to what they actually decided to do.]

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Interesting news...

    by Childe Roland

    ...and it&#39;s sparked some really intersting discussion. Please excuse me if I piggy back on anyone&#39;s idea from above without properly crediting them, but my head is kind of spinning with possibilities. First, I think it could be a very smart move to reverse the MJ/Gwen roles in Peter&#39;s love life. Changing up comic stories for the movies has never bothered me if done thoughtfully and well. They have a chance to do that here. Is Raimi trying to do too much? Maybe. It sure does seem like a lot of familiar "name" characters, who fans are going to want to see developed some, to cram into one movie. But then I look at the list of named characters that will apparently flash on the screen during X3 and I feel like the Spidey 3 roster is still pretty manageable. I agree that Dunst was miscast and pretty much felt so from jump. After seeing her in The Virgin Suicides, I was sure that reports of her playing MJ were erroneous and that she had to be Gwen. Her character from VS was SO Gwen - that tragically distant-yet-desperate to connect perfect little daddy&#39;s girl. It would&#39;ve been inspired to cast her as Gwen and kill her off in the first film. My reservations about Tobey as Spidey were more physical until I actually saw him in the role. Then I knew he was wrong for both Spidey and Peter. He plays both as if muttering his lines through a mouthful of Prozac, and Peter was always played as a smartass, even when he was being pusheed around. That characteristic was just amped to the Nth degree while in costume. I discovered That 70&#39;s Show in syndication (pretty much missed it in first run) about the time I saw Spidey 1, and I was telling people then how perfect it would have been to cast Topher Grace as Spidey. He had the perfect physique and personality for high-school Spidey at the time, and could easily train into the shape he&#39;d need to have for more mature Spidey. Plus, after killing off Gwen in the first film, Raimi could&#39;ve made a play for Laura Prepon as Mary Jane in the sequels. How perfect would that have been? But what is, is. The movies have been pretty darned good despite missed oppportunities. And if Raimi can actually make up for those with this addition to the cast and a well-written plot, I&#39;ll be one happy camper with the franchise as a whole. And I say "as a whole" because I will be very surprised if we see a Spidey 4, regardless of how good 3 ends up being or how it does at the box office. I just don&#39;t see Tobey coming back.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Why killing Gwen again is a mistake

    by STL Critic

    I know Gwendolyn Stacy is doomed to an early death in whatever medium she appears in, but killing Gwen again in Sam Raimi&#39;s next Spider-Man picture would be a mistake. Gwen&#39;s death had the impact it had not because she was a one issue character, but because she was established. She was one of the ones Peter was supposed to SAVE EVERY TIME. Killing Miss Stacy in the same film that you introduce her would be a waste. Killing Mary Jane Watson, however, would hold the same shock that Gwen&#39;s death had in the comics, given that Raimi&#39;s MJ is a three film bird. Let&#39;s hope Raimi saves Gwen just this once. http://tinyurl.com/e37tm

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 1:27 p.m. CST

    to Peven

    by Vern

    Thanks for the comments bud but I think we are both being a little unfair. On Tom Clancy, I really didn&#39;t mean to take you to task, I just thought it was worth giving Clancy some credit for coming out against the Iraq war (since your post implied that he would never write a book against the war - in fact, I think he already co-wrote one). Otherwise I would agree with you because I don&#39;t like the guy either. I was just trying to be fair to the dude. And as for Ron Howard, you&#39;re right, I was being unfair because I want to give this dude some tough love. Just because he&#39;s a nice guy and has been nominated for Oscars doesn&#39;t mean we should treat him as a real director. The guy did fuckin EdTV. He did the fucking Grinch. Willow. Gung Ho. Cocoon. His best movie is what, Splash? But the entertainment media treats him like he&#39;s in the top tier of respectable directors. But you&#39;re right, going that over the top negative on a guy (who is not even the topic of the talkback!) is very Talkbacker. I should be striving for excellence here. So you were right to call me out. I stand by the rat soup eating motherfucker part, though. thanks Peven.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 1:31 p.m. CST

    nyu

    by DeadPanWalking

    I heard Bryce was pretty pompous and entitled during her acting class days at NYU. Maybe she&#39;s nicer now that she&#39;s famous. Still, she looks an awful lot like Ron Howard to be cast as an engenue.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Diva&#39;s who dont die their hair for a movie role are retarded

    by Mr. Profit

    With that ridiculous fucking wig she is sporting in Superfag Returns. Anyhow, I am not nitpicking about hair color, please don&#39;t get my earlier post twisted. The hair color comment was an observation. My main critique was based on how fucking ugly they both are. It makes no sense to make a red head with freckles blonde and spackle make up on her face to conceal the freckles. Or cast an ugly blonde girl with Vampire Teeth to be a sexy girl. They should just recast the whole mutherfucker. Start with casting with Heath Ledger&#39;s coy boy bottom bitch as Spidey.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 1:47 p.m. CST

    *Cow boy

    by Mr. Profit

    They should have an edit feature on the talkbacks...

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Waitaminnit...

    by Anna Valerious

    Casting skinny lil&#39; Eric Forman as Venom is just plain wrong. I&#39;ve said it many times, go with Henry Rollins. Eddie Brock is someone that looks like they could bench press you on a regular basis. Not, as Red Forman would put it, some skinny dumbass.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:03 p.m. CST

    She&#39;s Opie-licious!

    by Uncapie

    Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Yes, Anna, but ULTIMATELY...

    by Sherman_Lives

    If we&#39;re picking and choosing canon (and we clearly are) for source material, there&#39;s no reason it can&#39;t be Ultimate Venom, who was more parallel to Peter (science project gone wrong) than 616-Venom. I always said it would be a great spin on the neurotic dual existence plot point from the first two films: PP is tired of being the Spider, but who else will? Suddenly, this friendly neighborhood Venom (black SM costume and all) shows up to make life so much easier for Pete! Suddenly Pete has time for MJ and patching things up with Harry... while Venom (Brock) is dating Gwen Stacy (another nice parallel). Venom makes short order of taking out Sandman, while HarryGoblin watches from the shadows. Since Venom is the "new" Spider-Man, HarryGoblin attacks him, kidnapping Gwen Stacy in the process (you see where this is going, kids?) leading to her death on the bridge-- a failure on Venom&#39;s part where Spidey succeeded in SM1. Spidey swings back into action to capture HarryGoblin, but that&#39;s not enough for Venom, who outright KILLS Harry! At this point, the costume is in charge, its mask contorting into the MacFarlane/Larson-esque toothy, drooling grin we&#39;ve been waiting the whole film for! And then the REAL fight begins! What do you think, too fanfic? Sam Raimi stopped returning my calls.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:17 p.m. CST

    fucking DUH: He&#39;s going to be more Carnage than Venom.

    by HypeEndsHere

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I&#39;d actually pay to see that movie...

    by Childe Roland

    ...Sherman. Of course, I&#39;ll be paying to see Spidey 3, regardless, and Raimi knows that. So there&#39;s really no incentive for him to think that carefully about the plot.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Will Spidey&#39;s costume have nipples?

    by Cosmik

    Too many characters. Is the franchise on its way to its "Batman and Robin"?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Poor choice of broads

    by JackieJokeman

    Rami really has poor taste in ladies. Just my opinion. On a side note am I the only one who is a little grossed out by Kirstin Dunst? I cant put my finger on why. I understand that she is a pretty girl, not hot but pretty but still she grosses me out. I think its that she looks just a little sickly, has slightly bad posture, one eye is slightly off. The closest analogy I can give is a package of tasty tasty sliced turkey thats about a day past the sell by date. Its still good but if you get it in your head that its not you can convince yourself that it already has that slimey coat that past date turkey gets. Makes sense? Didnt think so.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST

    I see your point, Sherm.

    by Anna Valerious

    I mainly watched the cartoon and didn&#39;t know of the cloning from the comics. But, Hank Azaria did make a kickass Venom in the cartoon. :)

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Ewwww....

    by rivercb

    It&#39;s like having sex with Ron Howard&#39;s nutt sack.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Sherman_Lives, "it would be a great spin on the neurotic dual ex

    by Immortal_Fish

    Brilliance! But where does Haden fit in? He&#39;s the only reason why I can&#39;t see things shaping up that way. Earlier, I mentioned that they&#39;re likely going to kill off MJ and retain Gwen. Not only because Dunst has mentioned that she&#39;s getting tired of the role, but also because I can honestly see Hollowood merging the Gwen and Felicia Hardy characters (which would be a dreadful, missed opprtunity). And you know where that&#39;ll lead. I&#39;m willing to bet on it and I&#39;m not even the type to buy raffle or scratch tickets. Here&#39;s another prediction, though -- somehow, some way, Topher&#39;s going to assume the Spidey mantle in this flick. Not sure how it will happen. Perhaps some retelling of the clone mess. It *will* happen, though. Willing to paypal a gentleman&#39;s bet of $10 on either or both of these predictions. BTW, I still hope I&#39;m rawng, so it would be money well spent!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:22 p.m. CST

    by Adamlovely

    Adam would bang both of them with his super sticky retford market webbing. Yeah Jay jay read and weep I like chicks.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:25 p.m. CST

    by Adamlovely

    Any chicks like Terminator - got the box set 10 hours of extras ! !

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Sherman basically I think explained what SP3 should be but I thi

    by andrew coleman

    And all these badies being casted doesn&#39;t mean they&#39;ll have a lot of screen time in the SP3, I believe they are setting up for more films. Which makes me belive Harry&#39;s Goblin will be bad guy behind the scenes until the end, with most of the action going with Sandman. While all this happens they set up Venom for the fourth film.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    "megabomb of coolnews"

    by RonaldLark

    Ok, can we make geekiness uncool again now? Harry&#39;s gushing rant about this stupid and uninteresting morsel was oh-so-pathetic.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi

    by glodene

    What is this obsession with casting these bland to but-fucking ugly women in roles that requires a babe. For christsakes Sam, dare to be different and hire one of those (music) video hoochies instead of constantly recycling these tired looking stringy hair would&#39;nt give it a second glanced lookin&#39; trolls, hell, Jenna Jameson would be perfect as either MJ or Gwen Stacy.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Jenna Jameson sounds like a tranny

    by JackieJokeman

    Jeannas poor throat has been banged with horse-like hose too much I think. And how the fuck do I know what a tranny sounds like anyway? Damn you Tihijuana!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell should play Gwen Stacy...

    by Edward_nygma

    ...he can so do this part. PS, Bryce is so fucking hot!

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Follow me! I know the way!

    by Sherman_Lives

    Thanks all for the kind words about my crackpot theory. And let me address a couple of comments: 1. Ultimate Venom was NOT a clone, a la 616&#39;s Ben Reilly. We do not speak of him. 2. We&#39;ve only seen one picture of Thomas Haden Church as Sandman, and that could be one of many one-scene villains Venom/Spidey takes on (see also: Ken Watanabe as "Ra&#39;s Al Ghul" in Batman Begins). Who knows, we may get all sorts of villains in a crime-fighting montage, and we only know about Sandy! Finally, as far as the killing off of Mary Jane, perhaps this is Raimi & Co&#39;s wish fulfillment that Spidey should have always ended up with Gwen (see also: House of M... no, on second thought, don&#39;t see that). Or you want a real mindblower? Have Spidey fuck up and let Mary Jane die early in SM3 (see also: Bourne Supremacy) and as a result he drops out of crimefighting just in time for Venom to show up (as a hero like in my previous treatment). Of course, Eddie&#39;s concerned girlfriend Gwen doesn&#39;t know who can relate to what she&#39;s going through, except Peter (for reasons I can&#39;t make up right now) and she leaves Eddie for Pete when he Eddie goes psycho. In this version, Gwen lives. Until HarryGoblin shows up in SM4. Peter Parker will be like the Sipowicz of boyfriends. Why doesn&#39;t Avi Arad put me on payroll?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Yeah, this looks like a packed cast for Spidey 3, but isn&#39;t

    by Orbots Commander

    Could be that Venom has a cameo in 3 and is the main villain in Spidey 4.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Wow, SMALLVILLE was good tonight, to bad theres no talkback for

    by Shermdawg

    Lex sure is trying to catch up to 50 Cent with the bullet wounds ain&#39;t he?

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:11 p.m. CST

    i dont mind Jenna Jameson&#39;s tranny-like voice.

    by HypeEndsHere

    what puts me off is her embarassingly bad plastic surgery (not the tits, the face). including her new Hillary Duff-like horse choppers.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Sherm, this is Sherm, if you are hired by Arad, how about puttin

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Well, Sherm you could post it on that old Superman Returns talkb

    by Prof.Ikamono

    It beats all the fussing and fighting we&#39;ve been doing over there about the gay thing.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 8:15 p.m. CST

    3 & 4

    by SpikeZoft

    I thought of that too when I heard about Gwen being in.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 9:36 p.m. CST

    League of Extraordinary Shermen

    by Sherman_Lives

    Why is it that the fans have all the best story ideas (and are validated as such within their community) but cannot achieve any kind of rank in the Hollywood studio system? Then we read articles all about how M.S. Johnson is a huge Daredevil fan, how Tim Story is a huge FF fan, and how Brett Ratner is a huge X-Men fan. Just once I want a fan to be the director (or writer, natch), not the other way around! But I guess Joss Whedon or Kevin Smith won&#39;t be doing any comic adaptations any time soon. Or here&#39;s an idea: put the person in charge of the source material in a position of input on the film (see also: Frank Miller, Robocop 3-- er, I mean, Sin City) You know what, come to think of it, I guess that would mean Chris Claremont would have to write the X-Men movie... and that would not do. Man, I need Lauren Shuler-Donner to lift that restraining order.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 9:55 p.m. CST

    SMALLVILLE DID NOT OWN ITS OWN AICN TALKBACK&#39;S ASS!

    by paulh

    At least this week (don&#39;t think that will be the case next Thursday). And $1 to Shermdawg for a phrase that brings a smile to my face everytime I read it.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:12 p.m. CST

    by pauljames33

    all you haters should shut the fuck up. lets see you make a better movie you stupid fucks. don&#39;t like it, then fuck off.

  • Jan. 19, 2006, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Let&#39;s See, indeed...

    by Sherman_Lives

    Paul, I heartily agree. LET&#39;S SEE all of us make better movies. I&#39;ve seen a lot of great fanmade clips out there, from Batman:Dead End, to Grayson, even that fanmade Silver Surfer test scene was impressive, all things considered. I want more fans in charge, because as I&#39;ve said, we WOULD make a better movie! Joel Schumacher washes my car!

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 12:35 a.m. CST

    What?! Mother of God! Gwen, WHAT THE FUCK

    by samuraiwahoo

    Man, what they are doing these days in movies make me sick. I don&#39;t talk about this anymore.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 12:37 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m hugging my comics and putting a steel toe into the DVD p

    by samuraiwahoo

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 1:05 a.m. CST

    So paulh, you like the "SMALLVILLE WILL OWN YOUR ASS!!!" line?

    by Shermdawg

    So send that dollar to him cause I totally ripped off his "EPISODE III WILL OWN YOUR ASS!!!" But the number one catchphrase on AICN has to be "BUT WHERE IS JEFF GOLDBLUM???" Simply freakin&#39; genius!

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Shermdawg is my Ben Reilly: film at eleven

    by Sherman_Lives

    It&#39;s true, and he looks AWESOME in that blue hoodie.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 2:50 a.m. CST

    "One because wasnt James Cameron intent on doing Spiderman 1, bu

    by 3 Bag Enema

    Actually, Cameron couldn&#39;t direct the film because Sony won the rights in court and Cameron is exclusive at another studio. By the way, anyone who says this actress is ugly or that Spider-Man 2 wasn&#39;t a good film is a dick.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Cameron should do a Namor film

    by Sherman_Lives

    I have it on good authority that Billy Zane was born to play Krang. And the triumphant return of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as Attuma. Say it out loud. Emphasis on the second syllable. Cinema gold. Jim Cameron drank all my beer.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Cameron should do A film

    by Bass Ackwards

    Any film, period. Anything. Something! Get your ass to work Jimmy!

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 5:52 a.m. CST

    I think she could play Meryl in a Metal Gear Solid movie

    by Johnno

    That&#39;s what that pic looked like anyway... sweet!

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Actually it was David Fincher, not King of the World who wanted

    by axelfoley

    Fincher also wanted to handle Spidey&#39;s origin in flashback form and concentrate more with starting the movie with Parker already Spider-Man.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Kirsten Dunst was fugly in Spiderman 2

    by Jeditemple

    I don&#39;t know what happened, but she was hot in the first Spiderman. Then for the sequel, she didn&#39;t wear any friggin&#39; makeup and wore a knit cap on her not-so-red head. Awful. If I were that astronaut fiance of hers, I would have kicked her butt for leaving me at the altar.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I think Kirtsen Dunst is a great MJ

    by Kid Joker

    I can see why Peter&#39;s nuts about her in the movie. But looking at the Gwen in the comic, I think Bryce is gonna need her hair longer as well obviously blonde to really pull it off, otherwise I don&#39;t think she&#39;s got that bombshell va-voom about her, though she is beautiful nonetheless.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 10:56 a.m. CST

    You know who would have made the perfect Spider-man back in the

    by Shermdawg

    MICHAEL J. FOX. Nuff said. Nuff said.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Ever heard of contact lenses?

    by BadboyBubby

    Big deal if she has got captivating grey-blue newsprint eyes. I don&#39;t see how that is any more relevant than her hair colour. But I don&#39;t knock her, I thought she was good in the Village.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Sherman - Ultimate Venom

    by oisin5199

    I was one of the people way back that was hoping for Ultimate Venom, as it ties into Peter&#39;s childhood and his father. Your idea about Peter stepping back because Venom (a double) is doing his job reminds me a bit of the Buffy/Faith storyline when Faith kinda takes over until she accidentally kills a human and starts turning evil. It&#39;s too bad the movies can&#39;t be more like the Ultimate-verse overall, the way the plots of the Goblin, Spiderman, Venom, Sandman and Doc Ock all dovetailed into the corporate attempt to redo the super soldier serum that created Cap America. Probably one of the best explanations why there&#39;s so many super-powered wackos running around, as opposed to just random experiments gone wrong. Oh and this is NOT the best picture of Ms. Howard. She&#39;s gorgeous (in a natural way - those lips! those eyes!) and all you naysayers are on crack.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah - and I can do with a little less angst and a little mor

    by oisin5199

    I agree with the above posters that the smart-ass spidey was seriously lacking in the films. Let&#39;s at least get a confident wise-crackin&#39; webslinger before he angsts away again. Tobey can do it - they just have to write it.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 11:16 a.m. CST

    I&#39;m sorry, but Tobey does NOT have the gift of comedy.

    by Shermdawg

    The only time I ever laughed at the guy, was in Wonder Boys when he was stoned and eating donuts on the hood of the car. Oh wait, I take that back, he did make a good Screech on SNL.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Does Gwen have a british accent?

    by Terry_1978

    Her family is supposedly british, but was she born and raised in the states or what? Her history was never all that clear.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 12:05 p.m. CST

    &#39;Most beloved character in Spidey history&#39;?

    by Lone Fox

    Come on, even Stan Lee admits he killed her off because she was dull! As for the timeline, she could conceivably be killed off in the film ala the comics, some forget MJ was &#39;on the scene&#39; first after all (though you never saw her face). Didn&#39;t MJ leave the book for a while after Gwen&#39;s death anyway? I might be confusing story arcs here. BUT that way the film could introduce Gwen, kill her off, and have MJ leave, all within SM3, leaving a clean slate for number 4 (is Raimi still adamant this will be his last episode?)

  • I&#39;ve never heard him say that. I did once hear him say that Peter and Gwen&#39;s relationship was at a point where they either break up or get married. They didn&#39;t want Parker to get married but didn&#39;t think a break up was the way to go (they were off and on for a while). They decided to kill her because it ended the relationship in a very decisive way and Parker mourning the death of his girlfriend is a better story than Parker mopping about because she dumped him. Tragedy always makes for better drama.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 12:27 p.m. CST

    That should be MOPING, not MOPPING

    by jim

    I don&#39;t believe he ever worked as a janitor

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Spiderman Stuff

    by Barron34

    Hmmm. Not too sure about all of this. I was kind of hoping they would keep the Professor who becomes the Lizard for this movie. I wanted to see Parker become more of a scientist. I thought they were setting this up in Spidey 2. I was hoping that Parker losing his powers temporarily would lead to him developing the old Mechanical Webshooters (TM). ***** Also, the film seems too crowded (unless it is true they are shooting 3 and 4 back-to-back). Not thrilled about the female casting so far. I always thought that when Dunst and McGuire were too expensive to resign that the filmmakers would recast, with Topher Grace as Parker/Spiderman, and Laura Prepon as Mary Jane (who is the physical spitting image of the character from the comics, and who also has the same sort of bold personality of the character). Seeing Grace and Prepon back on That 70&#39;s Show, I was always struck by their physical similarities to the two characters.***** Whoever suggested the girl from 24 as Gwen Stacy is spot-on. This Bryce Howard girl may be a good actress, but she bears no resemblence to the comic-book character. I could also see Cuthbert as the Black Cat, who I was hoping to see in this film.*****Speaking of which,, I think that this movie should have been mainly about Osborne as the Hobgoblin, with the Lizard and the Black Cat thrown in to mix things up. Spidey 2 really set Osborne up well as a nemesis for Parker/Spidey, and why bother to foreshadow the Lizard if he was not going to be used. A CG Lizard would be cool, if done right. The Black Cat would be good for the sex-appeal, as well as providing an heroic female character for female viewers, as well as a rival for Mary Jane. I really don&#39;t think putting Gwen Stacy into these movies at this point makes much sense. They almost have done the Gwen Stacy storyline, since MJ in the films is admittedly a combo of the comic-book version of Gwen and MJ. I also would hate to see them kill off MJ in the films as some sort of "reversal". MJ is Parker&#39;s wife, ultimately, and for the filmmakers to put so much effort into the MJ-Parker romance in the first 2 films just to kill her off dnies both the film and comic-book versions of MJ. Better that Mary Jabne should move to Hollywood to pusrue acting instead of killing her off.*****Finally, while I have my doubts about all of these things, I have so far very much liked Raimi&#39;s work on these films, so I am still hopeful that I will like the upcoming movie. I would just prefer that they try to stick closer to the comic-book canon instead of changing it. I think a big part of the success of the first two films was that they really seemed true to the comic-book Spiderman, and it would be a shame if they departed too much from the comic-book Spidey for the third film.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Too Many Typos

    by Barron34

    Damn.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 3:29 p.m. CST

    damn

    by dubsy

    i was thinking kristen bell too. this would have been exactly the type of movie that would make her HUGE. she actually has a personality that appears in her performance in VM. but oh well, at least howard can act

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 4:01 p.m. CST

    &#39;I don&#39;t believe he ever worked as a janitor&#39;

    by Lone Fox

    Haha- Big Jim- it was from an interview around the time of the first SM film coming out. Now admittedly, Stan has all the consistency of-- well, put it this way, he has a habit of embellishing after several dozen interviews... but he explained how he preferred MJ as a suitor (in the comic AND the movie), and was surprised at the reaction to The Death Of Gwen Stacy storyline, as it just seemed more interesting than having them split up, and he never expected it to be the hit it was. But the film had just come out, MJ was the love interest... it pops in his head, he says it! BUT he was right about one thing, Gwen was dull. Hot, but dull.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Avi Arad = Plant!

    by kdoc13

    Sorry, I just felt like being cliche. Perhaps he will also have a beer and cheat on his wife? Oh how I miss the good old days.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Who&#39;s the asshole casting these movies?

    by NYC

    First fatass tobey maguire as spiderman, then bland, boring Dunst as a supposedly sexy redhead and now this fugly broad. Looks like James Franco is still going to be the prettiest thing in these films. Are they purposely trying to hire not-hot actresses?

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Why not recast her as MJ, slap some big juggs on her(if she does

    by Monkey_King

    Oh, and Bendis still sucks!!!!!

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    After reading on IMDB who the asshole in charge of casting is, I

    by HypeEndsHere

    Makeup Department: Luisa Abel ....makeup department head, Jeri Baker Sadler ....key hair stylist (as Jeri Baker), MATTHEW W. MUNGLE .... SPECIAL MAKE-UP EFFECTS ARTISTS: PROSTHETICS, JAMES FRANCO. Now, it&#39;s possible that Harry Osborn receives a minor injury, but why have a specific FX guy named to him? Especially one that has worked on some big projects in the past?

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 5:56 p.m. CST

    aaa

    by sabian123

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 6 p.m. CST

    The HobGoblin Would Seem Too Much LIke A Remake

    by flamingrunt

    if the green goblin was an iconic movie baddy that nonfans wanted to return then maybe i could see why they would go for the hobgoblin. but he wasnt, he was an average baddy and for a character resembling him so closely to return in a sequel would be deemed a remake by all the non fans. I can see why they would want to remain loyal to the spidy storyline but when these movies are 200 million a pop, the average movie fan wants to see something new and different every time

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Mary Jane must die 2

    by sabian123

    When the 2nd Spiderman movie came out I wrote a review of what I thought was a great 2nd part to great franchise. I also wrote that the only way the other 2 movies would mean anything is if they kill off Mary Jane in Spideran 3. I&#39;ve been reading Spidey comics since I was 5 and I was just as pissed as everyone else when they turned MJ into Gwen and the organic web shooters. When I saw the first movie I actually thought that the idea for him to have organics was not so bad. Was still pissed that they used one of the greatest stories ever written by marvel and thrashed it by not having gwen in the first movie and not having her die. Although if that did happen every fan would know it was going to happen. It would have been great tohave seen it play out that way. Although if Raimi has any balls he will kill off Mary Jane simply because of the way the first to movies whent. At the end of Spiderman 1 Harrys says he will make Spidey pay and feel the pain that he&#39;s feeling. In two we see a bit of the darker side of harry and he discovers that Pete was the one responsible. Then he&#39;s given the power to do something about it. This what cracks me up is all the where not sure that harry becomes the Hobgoblin cracks me up. Why Show that scene that was torn almost out of a comic book when harry finds his fathers lair and not do it? Its the only thing that will connect the movies and by having Harry turn into the goblin whether it is Hobgoblin or goblin 2 is to Have Harry hurt Peter in almost the same way that he was hurt. By killing Mary Jane not Killing Gwen Stacy who the audience will have no emotional attachment for. I truly hope Rami does&#39;nt cop out and have Gwen die because it wont mean the same. Gwen should have been used in the begginning and now that she is&#39;nt the only true way to make up for it is to kill MJ the way the comic killed Gwen and have gwen become what Mary Jane is in the comics. If none of this happens then the movies will suck because when you write a firts and second act and third and so on they have to connect. So if Raimi does kill MJ Which is highly likely since Dunst has said she does not want to do anymore Spiderman than the other 2 movies will mean more. Just think how much better 1 and 2 will be if Harry does kill Mj and when you watch one again and you see Harry swear revenge on Spiderman how much more it will mean and ultimately to truly bring Spiderman to the screen the only way is to bring this tragic story of Peters lost love, No matter if it is Mj and not Gwen. Thats what Spiderman has always been about. His life was&#39;nt always happy and essentially the death of Gwen in the comics is what made Spiderman so great. Not Having His in SPiderman is like not having uncle Ben get shot by the crook. Peters first loves death is a big Part of Spiderman and sadly since Raimi Made Peteres first Love MJ then her dying is the only way to make these movies truly great. Raimis not stupid. As for all the characters their just pawns. Venom and Sandman. The real story is between spidey, the goblin and the loss of his first love. The movie will do fine if Raimi has the balls to Turn Mary Jane Into Gwen. I think I know the direction this movie is going. So Raimi dont fuck this up!!!!!!!!!!And Mary Jane it was fun whileit lasted and gwen nice to see ya again!!

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Kirsten as MJ

    by twitaman

    Though Kirsten wasn&#39;t my first choice for MJ (neither was Tobey for Spider-Man) and like them both. One of the main reasons I like her in the role is that she and Tobey have really good chemistry together. Which is funny, considering I read somewhere they&#39;re supposed to hate each others&#39; guts. But on screen, you cannot deny the fact that the two of them for whatever reason seem to have a spark.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Movie Trivia

    by shutterghost

    Play a message board trivia game-oneandthree.blogspot.com

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Quality

    by Waspo

    I really don&#39;t care if they introduce Gwen Stacy a little later into Peter&#39;s life. As long as it&#39;s true to the comic, it hits Peter very hard, and it works in a quality way, then I don&#39;t see a problem with Gwen at all. I don&#39;t think I would have cast Bryce Howard as Gwen, but Sam knows what he&#39;s doing, and I think it&#39;s all going to work for the best.

  • Jan. 20, 2006, 10:44 p.m. CST

    She&#39;s Cute But She Looks Too Much Like Her Dad

    by skoobyx

    If you squint a little its like: "AAAAH!" I

  • Jan. 21, 2006, midnight CST

    How about Allison Loman, Nick Cage`s daughter from Matchstick Me

    by chien_sale

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 1:35 a.m. CST

    eric666, before you post here TOO..

    by HypeEndsHere

    get a life, brah. underworld 2 was a cunny har from being staight to DVD.

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 3:32 a.m. CST

    im tired of kirsten dunst - she drags the spidey films down when

    by Spacesheik

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Stan Lee didnt kill her off in the comics.....

    by simongarth2001

    Gerry Conway was writing Spidey at the time, and doing great things with the book. (unlike all the hack Spidey writers of today.....) Conway wanted to shake the book up, and shake it he did. Lee allowed him to do it, after Conway told his plans for the future direction of the book.

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 7:34 a.m. CST

    imdb has topher grace listed as playing-

    by dr.bulber

    venom. i know they are very unreliable but just saying. i thought i missed the announcement.

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 12:19 p.m. CST

    sm3

    by misnomer

    for fucks sake! if I hear one more person go on about the web-shooters,ill shit! the reason why cameron went with the organic web-shooters is that it is ALOT more plausible than some fluid that can do virtually anything by pressing a button. wouldnt parker just sell the fluid formula to the military and make a shit load of money? it also makes the character alot more powerful. And yes, I know this is/I am gay. but enough about the webs. Gwen stacy is an unexpected choice for the third movie but it soundsreal good. (like koepp originally suggested for SM2) I could easily watch a 3hr spidey movie-especially if they up the action. Its about time we got a helicopter sequence and spidey climbing up a famous landmark.....

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Helicopter and famous landmark

    by SpikeZoft

    We almost got that. Remember the original Spidey teaser? Twin Towers . . . giant web . . . Also, Cameron didn&#39;t go with the organic web shooters. Cameron didn&#39;t do Spidey.

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 3:19 p.m. CST

    i prefer the chemical webshooters. it actually made spidey more

    by HypeEndsHere

    it was neat to think that a smart kid could invent something and use it. plus, it provided some extra tension. i always kept thinking: "man, he&#39;d better be careful. he&#39;s going to run out of fluid." and he always did. and then he&#39;d have to use his brain.

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 6:31 p.m. CST

    running out of fluid

    by Sherman_Lives

    Yes, because none of us has engaged in an activity that has caused us to "run out of fluid" organically, right? I mean, and then have to maybe wait five minutes to get started again? --- Anyway, I&#39;ve resigned myself to thinking of these movies and shows like "What If?" and "Elseworlds." What if Spider-Man&#39;s first love was Mary Jane? What if Victor Von Doom was with the FF during the cosmic storm (and not in that "Ultimate" way)? What if Bullseye was a leprechaun, Kingpin was black, and Elektra was a WASP? (Still wish Fox would greenlight a buddy picture about Foggy Nelson and Johnny Storm, the best parts of their respective films) Or how about: What if Kal-El came to earth in the mid-1980&#39;s, Lana was, let&#39;s say, Inuit, and Pete was an afterthought? What if Superman left earth, only to return to find Lois squirted out a kid in the interim?---- Basically, this thinking allows me not to spaz out so much when the projects go so far "off-book." This way, watching Smallville, I can&#39;t say, "well they can&#39;t kill Lana, she&#39;s still alive in the comics!" (Or is that pre- or post- Infinite Crisis? ) Geoff Johns owes me $40 and some pie!

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Uggh

    by PelvicBoogie

    She&#39;s not fugly, but she ain&#39;t attractive either. Kristin Bell would&#39;ve been better, even if she had to wear contacts. And Dunst sucks as MJ. She couldn&#39;t emote her way out of a paper bag. As much as I like 70&#39;s show, Topher will blow in the role of Venom. Only thing I&#39;ve like so far is the Sandman casting.

  • Jan. 21, 2006, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Topher...blow...

    by Sherman_Lives

    I was reminded of his spazzy cokehead role in Traffic, and he could really bring an edginess to (an albeit very Carnage-esque) Eddie Brock. Not to mention his bitchin&#39; turn in In Good Company. For some reason, I want to see Dennis Quaid as Capt. Stacy! But then, I won&#39;t let go of this whole "parallel Spidey/MJ" storyline.

  • Jan. 22, 2006, 5:33 a.m. CST

    cameron didnt do spidey/ landmark/webs

    by misnomer

    yeah, I really liked that trailer-itd be great to see spidey take on more low-level thugs like that-who arent always connected to him-just so we can have a spidey "burly brawl". cameron didnt do spidey in the end, but koepp took alot from his original script. It was cameron who came up with the idea of organic webbing-in his script parker would feel a need to replenish his lost protein by drinking lots of milk-which i though was kinda cool-made him more of a freak... I can see where your coming from with the added tension of him running out of webs during a fight though-but they still managed to touch upon that in sm2 by making it a psychological thing. itd be great if, from now on, his webs arent always that reliable...

  • Jan. 22, 2006, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Kristin Bell can&#39;t open one of her eyes

    by MrBoinfoint

    I shudder every time I see her half-open slits. Yeech. The reason Parker never sold his superadhesive web formula to the gov&#39;t is because it dissolves after two hours. Which is also why New York isn&#39;t constantly covered in webs. Who cleans that shit up in the movies?

  • Jan. 22, 2006, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Bryce Howard as Gwen works because of her personality more than

    by lettersoftransit

    I&#39;ve seen her in nothing else that I know of, but she exuded a real sweetness and strength in the Village, and was just about the only thing that kept me interested once the ending became obvious (about three minutes in). As a kid I first paid for a spider-man comic because of how hot Mary Jane looked dancing in a pair of go-go boots, only to get hooked on the super-soapy Gwen storyline. She was not just incredible looking but unreal in her sweetness and priorities (she was initially attracted to Peter because of his brain). I read the comic only intermittently after passing douible digits but put it away for good when they killed her off (didn&#39;t even bother to buy the followup story to see the obligatory revenge). Just didn&#39;t see how the series could hold my interest after tat. And judging by some of the talkback I&#39;ve read herein, it doesn&#39;t seem like I&#39;ve missed much. Is the writer kidding or dide they actually give her the back story of bearing the baby of the green goblin???? That brought on an out-loud W-T-F. I do not want to judge without having read it (and I won&#39;t), but I gotta say that sounds like somebody&#39;s run fresh out of ideas. That is not merely kumping the shark, my friend. That is blowing the shark while your grandmother teabags it.

  • Jan. 22, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Uh, lettersoftransit, you had better not ask about Aunt May, or

    by Shermdawg

    ugh.

  • Jan. 22, 2006, 11:36 p.m. CST

    ...or Ben Reilly. We don&#39;t speak of him.

    by Sherman_Lives

    For funzies, though, look up the Spider-Demon from Infinity War. Somebody had action figures to sell!

  • Jan. 23, 2006, 3:23 p.m. CST

    spiderman&#39;s new comic book costume

    by hattori_hanzo

    http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/ironspidey/lrg_ironspidey_001.jpg what the mother fuck?

  • Jan. 24, 2006, 9:48 a.m. CST

    The bestthing Gwen Stacey ever did was DIE

    by Steve Rogers

    She was a boring, 2-dimensional character otherwise. The Spidey fans who grew up rading her see her as this inviolate bastion of sweetness - pfff, whatever. She was shrill and dull and boring and it was good when she died. She freed Peter up to go out with some decent, interesting chicks. I&#39;m sick of hearing about her, frankly. Fuck Gwen Stacey! (which I would do, if she looked like BDH. Which she didn&#39;t).

  • Jan. 26, 2006, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Have any of you ever seen Sam Raimi?

    by MrBoinfoint

    He casts these actresses because he&#39;s a realist, and they are about as attractive as he could reasonably get if he were Peter Parker. Don&#39;t get me wrong, Kristen and Bryce are cute, but he&#39;s trying to ground the series in reality, and in reality, they are not mind-numbingly hot, just cute enough.

  • Jan. 27, 2006, 8 p.m. CST

    Running out of web fluid

    by Immortal_Fish

    Look, this is REALLY simple. It&#39;s a weakness that humanizes the protagonist, grounding them in reality. It is a sorely missing component in the movie franchise that I am sad to see foregone. I can get over it, and have, but it&#39;s a missing necessary component to character adaptation, much akin to Wolverine going from stunted ugly 60-something to tall handsome 30-something. Meaning, I can understand the adaptation, but I don&#39;t have to like it. There were plenty fan-based rationalizations to the 3M webshooter approach. The most creative idea I read was how the organic shooters were erratic. It was only with the ingenious intervention of Parker disassembling the components of a lighter to control the web&#39;s spray that made adaptable film sense to me. Why wasn&#39;t this followed up? Instead, we got "genetically engineered" spiders that fled upon bite instead of a radioactive one that died upon bite. Where are the other Spidermen? What role will Topher fill? Things that make ya go "Hmm...!"

  • Jan. 27, 2006, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Death

    by Henry Fool

    Since the second Spiderman was set some time after the first one, rather than picking up where S1 left off, my guess is that the third one will be set a year or two after the second. MJ will have left Peter and he&#39;ll have a new girlfriend, Gwen. Gwen will die 1/2-2/3 into the flick, turning this into a revenge movie. Peter and MJ will reunite at the end of the film.