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TRANSFORMERS - ILM footage is BS!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... Was offline for a bit due to some technical issues - but back now. Just got off the phone with Michael Bay regarding the "alleged" TRANSFORMERS ILM test that popped up online. Straight from the man himself, it's bullshit. The tests that they are doing right now are far more complicated and detailed... it isn't about the transformations so much as it is about getting the Transformers to act and to emote, cuz that'll be the deciding factor on whether or not this movie gets made. So where are they? Michael tells me that they've been drawing and storyboarding for 6months, and that they're hammering away at the third act on the script. When he was very first being tied to this, he felt he kinda didn't want to do it, but after all this work he feels that he's found a really cool film that kids and Transformers fans are going to really get behind. As for when we'll get a peek - the films got to be greenlit first, and it isn't quite there yet, so keep your fingers crossed and we'll get our TRANSFORMERS movie!

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  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Oooh

    by CeeBeeUK

    why would Michael Bay lie.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Must be footage...

    by CeeBeeUK

    Probably from an effects house that didn't get the contract, why else bother to generate that much footage of a transformer?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:52 p.m. CST

    by Iamagoodguy

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I knew it was fake

    by Iamagoodguy

    I knew all along I could tell honest

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:54 p.m. CST

    what a shock

    by Tony Mike Hall

    thankfully, the AICN commando spy team ferreted out the truth, this coulda been a full-fleedged internet disaster.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I hoped the Island flopping would get him off this project

    by Logo Lou

    No such luck. The biggest hack of all. Sigh.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    I knew it was more than meets the eye

    by cromulent

    Hollywood spies tell me they're actually robots...robots in disguise!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 3:57 p.m. CST

    And this deserves a talkback...because?

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    A Transformers movie is going to be nowhere near cool. Well, unless you're the kind of jackass who thought Van Helsing was cool...

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Great.

    by superninja

    The giant talking robots must convincingly emote or the movie won't get made. But a talking donkey can convincingly emote and we even get a sequel. Right.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:03 p.m. CST

    "Whether it gets made?"

    by modlight

    Is this still up in the air? Don't they have a release date? And that is dependant on whether or not they can make machines emote? I just want to point out that they are worried about robots crying.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Fuck the Transformers, give me a live-action G.I. Joe movie

    by Liberty Valance

    Then maybe we'll get some leaked footage of Duke balling Scarlet or Flint getting a hummer from Lady Jaye. Then we'll have something to talkback about.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:05 p.m. CST

    I never thought I'd be saying this, but I think Michael Bay

    by IndustryKiller

    And I am pretty hardcore Trnasformers fanatic. I can't remember a time in my life when I wasn't batshit for them. Think about it, what other director would really do an amazing job with htis film? Maybe Zemeckis or Spielberg but something tells me they doesn't want it. but other than that Bay is about the only other director who is realy gonna get the budget necessary to pull this off.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Should this even be made?

    by superninja

    As much as people like to pretend Transformers are only about giant robots looking cool, what would actually make a great Transformers film are things Bay is probably not interested in. At least not beyond a superficial level.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:14 p.m. CST

    It's Michael Bay, so who cares?

    by Pdorwick

    Please, the less time we spend talking about this hack the less legitimacy he'll end up with.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:17 p.m. CST

    The thing that worries me...

    by Thumper2k1

    ...is how they are going to handle transformers like soundwave and megatron. 20 foot robots transforming into small things (guns and tape recorders). You know they're either going to give some lame ass explaination or have these guys transform into something else. I for one just hope they say "fuck it" and don't explain anything. Just have them do it.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:18 p.m. CST

    why in the world...

    by mocky_puppet

    ...are these robots from another planet designed to disguise themselves as vehicles? what's the rationale? if that isn't explained, there's no way i can get interested. as a cartoon, okay, fine, they're robots that turn into cars, i'm eight years old, i don't care why they're made like that. but now that i'm seventy four and going to see sophisticated movies such as brokeback mountain and baseketball, i need a little supporting information in order to suspend my disbelief. and michael bay will always get a pass from me just for his involvement in Armageddon, which is the best movie of all time, don't even try to argue.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:19 p.m. CST

    I am a geek child of the '80's, and yet I never got into

    by 3 Bag Enema

    I don't know why. He-Man, Inspector Gadget, sure. Hell, even Thundercats. Just couldn't be bothered with G.I.Joe or the Transformers. No appeal to me. Anyone have a psychological insight into my indifference?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    now where's the guys who said he's put money on it being

    by quadrupletree

    pay up Mother!!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Er, should have been "Transformers or G.I.Joe."

    by 3 Bag Enema

    However, Transformers of G.I.Joe I would have watched.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    No Shit

    by AlgertMopper

    No Shit Sherlock, I thought everyone knew that

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Oh and

    by quadrupletree

    About it not being greenlit yet?!? Why the hell did they park a giant truck with a release date (month?) in the middle of comic-con if it's not green lit? Something doesn't add up there.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:25 p.m. CST

    The Island wasn't that bad

    by Heckles

    Freakin' weenies. Made King Kong look like Ed (that crappy movie with Matt LeBlanc, jerks. And did you know that Jim 'Jesus H.' Caviezel was in that piece?) To sum up, The Island was cool.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Someone else that could have made it...

    by OriginalThinker

    My friend a while back found a commerciall for this european car that transforms a lot like that and then dances. this could be test footage for a commercial like that. So it could be real test footage, just not for transformers.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Greenlit?

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Yeah, I agree. What's this about the movie getting greenlit? I thought this was a done deal complete with a release date, website, and a Steven Spielberg "I Love Transformers" testimonial-producer seal of approval. Strange. You know, I could care less but I have to say...a full, live action Megatron brandishing his Fusion Cannon would be pretty awesome to see on the big screen. He was truly one of the great cartoon/comic villains.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:41 p.m. CST

    mocky_puppet

    by KarmicRelief

    Never did I imagine I'd see Brokeback Mountain and Baseketball metioned in the same sentence. Riot...

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Yea, weirdness all around

    by Bass Ackwards

    Even fake this this isn't like the Beetle transformer from a few years ago, not to say its perfect (but it wouldn't be anyways would it, being "test footage"), this looks not only pretty professional but its on film. I'd think if it is fake whoever did it would step up and take credit for it eventually. Plus if everything in that conversation is true, it doesn't necessarily mean this is fake, it just means this is old.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:46 p.m. CST

    wow, that is one awesome fake then.

    by warp11

    Who has the ability to make something like that besides ILM or a comporable studio?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:47 p.m. CST

    I liked the Island

    by Rindain

    The marketing for it sucked though.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with James Cameron regarding the "alleg

    by Monkeybrains

    And he told me to go fuck myself and demanded to know who gave me his phone number in the first place.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:50 p.m. CST

    What they really need to be focusing on is the preproduction for

    by Canada's King

    Because the day this is released, they'll be gearing up for one.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Not sure if CGI robots can emote?--where's Bay been the last

    by www.valiens.com

    Dude, you need tests for that? Why not just hire the guys who have already accomplished human-like CGI? ... "Yousa people gonna transform?"

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay can't inject humanity into his films if he worke

    by DAS JANKE

    ...is he a robot in disguise?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Hopefully the effects will look better than, Power Rangers the m

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Emoting Robots,

    by Wellesian

    I hope when he says emote, he means how to make their movements match the emotions the voice actors will provide (sadness over death, or Optimus Prime's John Wayne-like duty and honor schtick). The one who'll take the most work, obviously will be Megatron. It's gotta be tough to make a 30 foot tall robot with the dialogue of an old Buster Crabbe serial actually seem menacing and not 'Grando Calrissian'-level laughable. I put so many references in there, I hurt myself. Gonna go lie down now.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:04 p.m. CST

    I agree, Industrykiller.

    by Nice Marmot

    I can't stand Michael Bay but I grew up w/ Transformers & think he's the man to make a Transformers live action movie. No matter what he makes he throws in car chases & explosions. Well Transformers is supposed to be 90% car chases & explosions. He's perfect for this. And get all the original voices from the cartoon. The living actors that is.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Nice Marmot

    by Wellesian

    Its a slim chance that they're going to get the original voices. This is Hollywood, my man. You can expect them to be courting Martin Lawrence for the voice of Jazz within 6 months

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Doesn't Michael Bay belong on the Go-Bots live action movie?

    by INWOsuxRED

    If the guy has nothing better to do with his time than to check the net for Transformers leaked footage and then gossip on the phone with Harry about it, then maybe he should pass the project on to someone that cares that it has a release date and a website. What studio makes a website for a movie they MIGHT make and then sends Speilberg out to shill for it?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Uh-oh, I wonder if Bay promised Harry a visit to the set?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Because that would mean that the film will definitely get a positive review. ;-P

  • Thumper2k1 - You mentioned what megatron and Soundwave are going to change into? Megatron is going to be a tank this time around. And so far Soundwave is supposed to be a Helicopter starting off but then possibly get a new form by the end of the movie. Megatron as a Tank I can understand and accept. I'd still prefer a gun but I can understand why that would be a lil controversial. Especially if they want to make him into a toy which you know they will.But Soundwave as a helicopter is a crap idea to me. That just blows. I personally think he still needs to be some kind of communication device. And pretty much all of the Transfandom agrees with me on that.I know tape decks are obsolete but how about a computer or something? I'd prefer anything like that instead of a freaking helicopter. mocky_puppet - You wanted to know the rationale behind the robots disguising themselves as vehicles and such. You just answered your own question. Thats exactly it. They do it to disguise themselves. They don't want the human population to know that they're here so they disguise themselves as earth vehicles and etc., If a car passes you on the street you wouldn't think twice about it. If a 20ft tall robot walks by i'm sure your gonna be thinking thats a lil out of the ordinary. I don't know what Harry means by "If it's Greenlit" As far as everything i've read about it it already has been. Just like someone already posted above, they have a release date for it already (7-04-07) and was advertising it at the San Diego Comic Con. I don't think they'd be going through all that if a movie was only being pitched around. And supposedly Spielberg flew to Hasbro himself to convince them to sell the movie rights to Dreamworks. Either New Line or Lionsgate or some other top company was in the lead to buy them but Spielberg went in and snatched them right out from under them. With this project being under his wing I don't think we have to worry about it not getting made but rather will it turn out good. And what test footage are all you guys talking about? Are you talking about that clip where it shows a white porsche looking car at a gas station or something and a person walks by? And then after the person is off screen the car transforms into a robot and pulls a gun out from its back? Is that what your talking about? If so that has been around for a year or two now. That has nothing to do with the movie. The guy that made that works in computer animation. He had that plus a lot of other cgi clips of other stuff on his website. He even had a whole behind the scenes article on how he made that car transform. That was his lil tribute to Transformers because he was a big fan. If I find the link to his site i'll be sure to post it.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Harry, how 'bout calling James Cameron?

    by Rindain

    I would love an update on Battle Angel and Project 880.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:36 p.m. CST

    They have to at LEAST get the original voice of Soundwave

    by Nice Marmot

    Or was it Shockwave, I'm talking about the tape player. "Ravage . . . Transform." Sweet memories . . .

  • http://tinyurl.com/a9ksg This is my personal collection. I figure I gotta show it off whenever the oppurtunity presents it's self. Let me know what you think.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST

    The real question is what car manufacturer is going to pay big b

    by Negative Man

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Nice Marmot

    by Mace13

    Soundwave was voiced by Frank Welker who also did Megatron and just about every other original Decepticon on the show when it first started.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Soundwave a helicopter?!??!

    by JudgeNXcutioner

    fuck that, if what mace says is true do they just eliminate ravage, rumble, and laserbeak? Is any of this going to be based on cybertron, it would be cool to see their pre-earth transformation modes

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Transformers... but still no LIVE ACTION MACROSS???

    by Johnno

    For shame...

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 5:57 p.m. CST

    The key to this movie's success......

    by Doc_Strange

    Is that they're going to HAVE to get the original voice actors from the cartoon. Otherwise, I see this thing at number 1 the first weekend then a steep dropoff the next week because fans wouldn't accept new actors doing the voices. Really can anyone else imagine Clooney doing Optimus Prime? Pete Cullen for Prime all the way, plus they'll save a huge amount of money on budget costs.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:02 p.m. CST

    harry has a direct line to Bay?

    by calami-shami

    all respect for this site is now gone.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Doc Strange

    by Wellesian

    Only 15 to (a generous) 50% of this movie's fanbase is going to remember or care about Peter Cullen's voice. No disrespect intended to you or him (I can't imagine any other voice for The Prime), but it's Hollywood my, man. The original voices is going to become one of those things like tall Wolverine and yellow spandex, or Mary Jane's blue instead of green eyes, or Superman's redesigned suit - a bone of contention for fans and fans alone.

  • Lord, Please guide Michael in the making of this film. Please guide the hands of the craftsmen that they may find those emotions that we all know are there inside the Transformers(TM. Please let this be the movie the restores Michael Bay to the greatness we all know he harbors inside. And Lord, if its not too greedy, please help this movie to make a zillion so that we may behold the power of another HE-MAN(TM) movie. God Bless America!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Sorry, One last thing:

    by Wellesian

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:12 p.m. CST

    piss on this...

    by bigdickmcgee

    Where's the THUNDARR THE BARBARIAN movie?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Goddamnit

    by Wellesian

    Sorry, two last things: If cartoon to film movies are the next trend, I can't wait for SwatKATS: The Motion Picture....You know it's coming

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:16 p.m. CST

    MAKE THIS SHIT HAPPEN SPEILBERGO!!!

    by R.C. the "Wise"

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Actually Wellesian, Busta Rhymes would make a good Jazz

    by Terry_1978

    If he could act worth a damn. He sounds eerily similar to Scatman Crothers.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:19 p.m. CST

    To all the Transformer-HATERS...

    by Rant Breath

    Name 3 cartoon heroes cooler than Optimus Prime!!!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Don Murphy says it's fake too

    by DiernaSoul

    Michael Bay? Pft...I rather like Don Murphy&#39;s response to the footage <p> http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurp...15&pagenumber=1

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:20 p.m. CST

    fuck Busta Rhymes as Jazz. Jazz should be MOS DEF. WORD!

    by R.C. the "Wise"

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Don Murphy response

    by DiernaSoul

    oops...here&#39;s the full addy to Don Murphy&#39;s response about the footage http://www.d13satellite.com/donmurphy/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7815&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    I call bullshit to the bullshit

    by Falcon5768

    Knowing a few people in ILM I can garentee you Harrys been had, and this really IS test footage that wasnt supposed to be seen. Of course they said it wasnt they dont want people to know about it.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    3 Bag Enema...You a child from the 80s like most of us and you d

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Then you list He-Man and Inspector Gadget as ones you did watch. Man, I enjoyed He-Man and Thundercats like most boys growning up back then, yet to me they both were way behind cartoons such as: Silverhawks, TF, G.I. Joe, Mask, Mighty Orbots word, and of course my favorite...ROBOTECH

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:26 p.m. CST

    So Micheal Bay really didnt want to do Transformers but thinks c

    by Rant Breath

    Another words he thinks it will make a shit-load of money. Fuck You Micheal Bay! Go make the Island 2 you Pearl-Harbor-directin piece of shit!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:33 p.m. CST

    All you people who want this film to happen are gonna be bitchin

    by chickychow

    I&#39;m sorry, but a Transformers movie wouldn&#39;t have much hope in Spielberg&#39;s hands (although he would work in some nice 9/11/Iraq allegories I&#39;m sure), what chance does it have with Michael fuckin Bay?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Maybe Speilberg can direct it

    by superninja

    and make it all about how the Autobots feel bad about killing the Decepticons even though they chased them all the way from Cybertron to Earth and are intent on their complete destruction? Oh, wait. At least Bay isn&#39;t THAT kind of hack.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Haha...true enough. Bay will make sure they&#39;re all violent

    by Terry_1978

    And isn&#39;t that all we really want?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay will turn it into car chases

    by superninja

    with product placement of course. TF is the ultimate product placement flick. Not to mention NASCAR and Jessica Simpson in there in a bikini somewhere.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Since the entire premise is about war

    by superninja

    it would be kind of pointless to leave the violence out, eh?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Rock Lords!!

    by Mr.Soap

    I loved Transformers as a kid, it would be neat to see the Dino-bots on screen as well. What would be cooler than seeing a giant mechanical Triceratops fuck some shit up? And didn&#39;t they combine to form one giant Dinobot? Utter coolness. Does anyone remember the go-bots utterly retarded response to the Dinobots? The "Rock-Lords!" I think that is what they were called. I don&#39;t know if they ever got a show on their own or if they only ever were in the Go-bots movie. Robots that turn into rocks and boulders! What fun! Think of different adventures you could get into playing with a.....ROCK! Reminded me of that scene in "BIG" when Tom Hanks&#39; character says "skyscraper? what is fun about playing with a skyscraper?" refering to the toy companies newest toy idea.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST

    thundarr the barbarian movie

    by JudgeNXcutioner

    Michael clarke duncan as ookla!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Heath Ledger as Lion-O

    by superninja

    You know it&#39;s true.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Actually, Thundaar would be a great movie.

    by superninja

    But you know people in Hollywood aren&#39;t creative enough to pull it off and are too scared of fantasy to go all out. We need more good fantasy films.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Thundercats

    by Mr.Soap

    Ben Kingsley as Mummra

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay

    by Wellesian

    Would be better suited to direct a WWII Era Captain America movie scripted by Tony Gilroy and David S. Goyer. If anybody can do iconography, it&#39;s Bay

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Only One Person can Play Mumm-Ra

    by Wellesian

    And that is Terence Stamp

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:48 p.m. CST

    JudgeNXcutioner - Soundwave & Voices

    by Mace13

    Supposedly there saying that Soundwave will still have his minions but haven&#39;t said exactly how thats going to work yet. They&#39;ve hinted that if Soundwave is a Helicopter that the cassette/minions will be a part of him somehow. That&#39;s all the info they have given on it. That whole helicopter idea still sucks in my opinion. And as far as voices for the characters. I of course would want the original voice actors who played them on the cartoon. But thats realisticly not going to happen. There&#39;s a decent chance they still might offer Peter Cullen who voiced Prime and Frank Welker who was Megatron to possibly return to these roles since those two are the most famous characters from the show plus famous actors in real life. I&#39;m sure everyone reading this has heard both actors doing voice overs in 3/4 the shows/movies that are even made nowadays but you just didn&#39;t realize it was them. But as far as everyone else though you might as well start picking out name brand celebrities to fill those shoes.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Then why call him Soundwave?

    by superninja

    Also, I hope they don&#39;t try to load up the film with peudo-techno references and explain how they "work". That&#39;s always really annoying.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Soundwave...

    by The_Deathticle

    All I know is that I near &#39;bout shit my pants when Soundwave turned up on Family Guy, beating Peter out of Employee of the Month.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:05 p.m. CST

    How are you going to go from skinny Mummra

    by superninja

    to buffy Mummra? I guess there are ways to do this. But trying to picture Kingsley as buff ain&#39;t working for me.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Figured I&#39;d throw in my two cents with another cool 80&#39;s

    by Orbots Commander

    Voltron--the one where the robot is assembled from multiple space vehicles, not the one with the lions. I&#39;d chime in with the above for Thundaar the Barbarian, and the Space Ghost hour. Inspector Gadget? That always struck me as a show for little girls, like My Little Pony. Now, would any of these make good movies? Likely not. Animated show concepts almost never translate well to live action. Except for GI Joe. That show was basically an updated Sgt Fury comic book take-off or something that sprung from a boy&#39;s adventure story anthology.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Mummra

    by Mr.Soap

    Kingsley=skinny Mummra The Rock=buff Mummra

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Thundaar is like Planet of the Apes mixed with Conan the Barbari

    by superninja

    I guess that movie has already been made, in fact several times. Great character designs, though!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Now that I think about it, I gotta have Starscream&#39;s voice t

    by Nice Marmot

    I know it&#39;s the same guy who did Cobra Commander. Was that Cullen or Welker? And Thundar the Barbarian? Damn, I loved that show too. What about Blackstar, w/ the guy on the flying lizard & the dwarves flying around in the zeppelin? I even remember one of them had a lit candle on his hat all the time.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:13 p.m. CST

    But Mr. Soap

    by superninja

    his head stays the same. The Rock isn&#39;t going for that. So maybe Buff Mummra isn&#39;t necessary anyway. I never really thought Buff Mummra was very scary compared to skinny Mummra, although when he transformed you could almost see up his skirt, which was REALLY scary!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:16 p.m. CST

    M.A.S.K.

    by Mr.Soap

    M.a.s.k. was bascily another cartoon with the sole purpose to sell toys, still I remember the cartoon fondly. The vehicles that turned into tanks/jets/fighting machines. Does anyone remember Sectars? The half-human half insect guys who each had a giant pet insect of some kind?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:16 p.m. CST

    What about The Herculoids movie?

    by KarmicRelief

    Though, I heard they ditched the original script when the fans revolted at the idea of Thundro&#39;s organic energy rock shooters.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Thundarr

    by The_Deathticle

    We all know what hooked us on Thundarr. It was the Sun Sword. It was basically a lightsaber, and what was cooler than a lightsaber when you were a kid?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Deathticle, speak for yourself.

    by superninja

    I liked the sorceress and the funky steeds. Thundarr was kind of a meathead, though.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST

    superninja

    by Mr.Soap

    Ya your right about the Rock. Possibly they could go the MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE movie route, where they never showed He-man as the wimpy Prince-Adam. He could just be Buff Mummra the whole time... or something. Either that or they could "Jar Jar Binks" him with a total CGI character!!! I can&#39;t believe we are talking about this....

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Chris Latta aka Starscream is no longer amongst us

    by Terry_1978

    Though I would like someone like Andy Serkis to give it a go. Not sure who else in the "A-list" has a scratchy enough voice for it.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:22 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Marilyn Chambers regarding the all

    by KazamaSmokers

    Turns out its total BS. But hey, I did get to drop her name.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Mr. Soap

    by superninja

    I think Mummra would be better as the scary sorcerer and let the Mutants be the buff meatheads. And let&#39;s face it, Lion-o never got by on his brains. Teamwork saved that guy&#39;s arse almost every time. Teamwork, and luck.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:25 p.m. CST

    "I call bullshit"

    by scratcher

    Can someone tell me where this phrase came from? I keep reading it more and more on this site, and it&#39;s just about the most irritating and inane cliche of all time. I just Googled it and it&#39;s fucking everywhere! Make it stop!!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Cobra

    by Mr.Soap

    Ray Park as Snake eyes. Jet Li as Storm Shadow. Sylvester Stallone as Destro. I like the idea of Any Serkis under the hood and/or helmet to play Cobra Commander. I&#39;m doing this just for the hell of it...

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Jack Black as...

    by Junior Frenger

    ...SNARF!!! In a Thundecats based movie, this would get my money.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Bay will kick your ass and take your name.

    by AlwaysThere

    The guys is gret. I seriously feel sorry for all the people that doubt him. His Transformers movie will kick all kinds of ass. 2007 cant come soon enough. FUCK SPIDER-MAN 3.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:29 p.m. CST

    No offense.

    by superninja

    But what&#39;s so amazing about GI Joe that cries out for a film? There are buckets of films about special ops with specialists. Street Fighter was your GI Joe movie.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Bay&#39;s Transformers Synopsis

    by superninja

    War, product placement, war, product placement, war, with a side of war. NASCAR race. Hot chick. The End.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:33 p.m. CST

    GI JOE

    by Mr.Soap

    For nostalgic purposes I suppose. Plus the characters, if you want to call them that, are pretty damn weak in Street Fighter. Every hero or villian in the GI JOE universe had personality and an interesting back story. Take the Drednoks, Serpentor, and Refridgerator Perry for example(joking).

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:34 p.m. CST

    I agree about Thundaar

    by LuckyYoga

    This would make a kick ass movie! I love this 80&#39;s toon & its the only time I can remember watching a post-apocalyptic saturday morning kids show.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I just got off the phone with Quentin Tarantino...

    by Junior Frenger

    ...and after he threatened to bitch slap me, he told me every dork, on every message board across the globe thinks that he should direct the Transformers movie. Apparently they all think that this would be "Sooooooo kewl!!!"

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Kidding about Street Fighter.

    by superninja

    However, I consider it a guilty pleasure. Since we know a GI Joe film will not delve into the backstory of every character, you have to go with the broad premise, which is really nothing special. Even Snakeyes is a character that is now sort of done to death. Are there any characters who you think are particularly strong?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:36 p.m. CST

    gilbert godfreid as the voice of starscream

    by JudgeNXcutioner

    Scratchy voice included

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Actually GI Joe would be great on television

    by superninja

    Ongoing series where they could build up the characters backstories. I agree that is the best aspect of GI Joe.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:41 p.m. CST

    characters...

    by Mr.Soap

    Well...I don&#39;t know if Snake Eyes is a strong character exactly, but I could see him getting a strong fan reaction and cult following sort of like Wolverine in the Xmen movies. Some cool "ooh shit" moments if you will. I always found the rivalry and story between him and Stormshadow to be fun. Other that that, I&#39;d have to admit its been years since I&#39;ve actually seen the cartoon so I&#39;m not really the best expert as to who is a strong character. Cobra Commander had some funny and orignal moments. The story of how Serpentor was created is kind of cool.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Ving Rhames IS Roadblock!

    by HypeEndsHere

    Because right now he IS unemployed!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 7:59 p.m. CST

    "Inspector Gadget? That always struck me as a show for little gi

    by 3 Bag Enema

    I believe they&#39;ve made at least two Inspecter Gadget movies which prove your point.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Of course robots can emote

    by Plum

    Has no one here watched STAR WARS? That said, even though I watched the cartoon when I was young, a movie version of TRANSFORMERS just cracks me up every time I think about it. And not in a good way.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Does anybody remember Galaxy Rangers?

    by OBSD

    I seem to be one of the few people who remembers that show. Man, that was one kickass cartoon that deserves a movie. Amid the whole "parachuting to safety" lameness of GI Joe, this was the first American cartoon that had people die onscreen! It&#39;s also where Joss Whedon stole the whole "western in space" idea.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Did Galaxy Rangers have the

    by superninja

    Indian cowboy and the robotic horse, or is that another one?

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:22 p.m. CST

    80s Cartoons Revivals

    by superninja

    I can tell you that from the 80s cartoon revival that took place in comic books, almost all of it was pure garbage. The problem is that while these are all visually nostalgic and somewhat interesting high-concepts, the writers don&#39;t know what to do with them. Or how to translate them to an older audience looking for just a bit more depth.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:24 p.m. CST

    "Just got off the phone with Michael Bay " if I ever spoke to hi

    by performingmonkey

    Thank fuck Bay isn&#39;t involved with the POTC movies. Bruckheimer somehow gets away with it away from him. Kangaroo Jack is a classic movie.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:28 p.m. CST

    That was Bravestarr, I believe.

    by OBSD

    Bravestarr was another animated half-hour toy commercial with a "lesson" at the end, not unlike He-Man. Galaxy Rangers had almost no merchandising, and was all about kicking ass and taking names. They even had a "Wolverine meets Clint Eastwood" character named Gooseman, who was a shapeshifter. There were robot horses, in both shows though.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Right. Bravestarr was the He-Man

    by superninja

    ripoff. Then I&#39;ve never seen Galaxy Rangers.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Bittorrent, dude.

    by OBSD

    It&#39;s worth it. Even today, they still hold up

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:36 p.m. CST

    If he thinks the fans are gonna enjoy this...

    by BRUTICUS

    HE BETTER PUT THE ORIGINAL VOICE ACTORS. Cameo voice actors is for animated comedies. Don&#39;t turn Transformers into that. Think of it as STAR WARS. Why would George Lucas NEVER have hired a famous actor to be one of his aliens? Because you have to sell the fact that they&#39;re aliens.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Damn, I was 100% convinced it was real

    by BendersShinyAss

    It was pretty fucking spot on!!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Bender, you owe me a Coke

    by scratcher

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Well the IRON GIANTS change was real.

    by Todd

    I would like to point out that even though the Transformer footage is not real, the transformation that THE IRON GIANT under went still remains authentic. Unlike the

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Since when does Optimus Prime "emote"?

    by Tall_Boy

    His entire facial expression is about as complicated as a background Muppet character circa 1970s. He don&#39;t need to emote, he needs to transform, dammit! With that "E-ch-chow-cha-cha-chow" sound. That&#39;s all!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    This is cool news because Harry wanted you to know he talked to

    by IAmJack'sUserID

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Thundarr!

    by Thunder Mammoth

    Yay! Right on.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Great Beaver!

    by Thunder Mammoth

    the funny thing to me about all this... is that Michael Bay is claiming to actually being concerned about anything, "emoting." ...(snicker)...

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Transformers: The Movie is going to suck Gus Van Rant&#39;s coin

    by Chief Redcock

    That is all.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Ok, it seems people remember I was betting money on this being r

    by BendersShinyAss

    Damn you, Gamblor!! Ok, here&#39;s what I&#39;ll do, post each and everyone of your talkbacker names, along with a real name, bank account details and email addresses and I&#39;ll eventually get around to it. Until then, enjoy this link: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/gijoe.html

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 9:58 p.m. CST

    by BendersShinyAss

    by Thunder Mammoth

    That GIJoe stuff at ebaums is some funny fuckin shit! thanks dude. my stomach hurts...

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 10:19 p.m. CST

    "they&#39;re hammering away at the third act on the script"

    by Chief Redcock

    Knowing Bay, it&#39;s probably more like "stroke, stroke, stroke, stroke.... UUURRRGGGHHH!!!!"

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Ultimately, the Island was pretty good UNTIL the third act

    by BendersShinyAss

    Why that film deteriorated the way it did I&#39;ll never know. It really was passing by quite nicely.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Silverhawks, anyone?

    by silentjay

    The shoulder laser rocked.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Bay Kicks ASS!!

    by Eh-Nam

    The Man Makes sweet Popcorn blow the shit up movies and thats a fact. Although I wish to god they would use the Original voices for the movie. And I liked The Island

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Bay sucks ASS!!

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    The man makes crap dreck. Why make a story when you can have a bunch of shit blowing up and that&#39;s a fact. If Bay could find a way to blow the script up in his movies, he&#39;d do it. Hell, he&#39;d blow the audience up. The Island sucks like Bay does.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 11:11 p.m. CST

    I thought it was pretty damn funny how on the other thread there

    by Lezbo Milk

    that the footage was legit. It was cute, but come on, get real.

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Was Galaxy Rangers the cartoon that had the Battleship in space?

    by Nerdgasm

    I loved that cartoon...can&#39;t remember a damn thing about it other than there was a big battleship (the ocean going kind) except it flew in space. What the hell was the name of that show??

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 11:18 p.m. CST

    A new talkback catchphrase born?

    by The_Deathticle

    I just got off the phone with Grando Carlissian who told me that Hulk Hogan had a beer and cheated on the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet, BROTHER!

  • Jan. 11, 2006, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Why Bay?

    by The_Lion

    Getting the FX and techinical stuff aint the problem.... the problem is getting the writing and characters to be good.... an area where Bay blows.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:09 a.m. CST

    I only wish Scatman was still around to play Jazz. That said, b

    by Horseflesh

    Megatron, Soundwave, etc. etc. etc. DEAR GOD bring the man in to do the voices!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Re: Nerdgasm

    by LargoJr

    There were 2 candidates, one of which being Irresponsible Captain Harlot, but I believe you&#39;re refering to Battleship Yomato, also refered to as Starblazers. It was the original &#39;spaceship with gigantic gun in it&#39;s bow&#39; cartoon. *** Anyways, I think the only people who are actually looking forward to any kind of &#39;Transformer&#39; film needs to work on / reassess their priorities. Maybe they need to lose their virginity first hmmmmm? Just a suggestion Harry.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:18 a.m. CST

    How they ended up looking like cars & planes:

    by ZeroCorpse

    Their ship crashed on Earth and the ship&#39;s scanning devices scanned to find the dominant life form on the planet (assuming that all planets were populated by cybernetic life forms) and found cars and planes, totally missing the meat things inside them. The ship then "reconfigured" the transformers to look like these Earth life forms so that they could mingle freely. As Decepticons are naturally able to fly (usually) their ship chose the flying "life forms" and the Autobots&#39; computer chose the ground-dwelling "life forms" as the templates. Back home on Cybertron, they had forms that switched between their humanoid shapes (as we see them on earth) and completely generic flying/wheeled shapes. It&#39;s not that they are "cars" or "planes" but that one species of Transformer had a flying form, and the other had a ground travel form, and the two hate each other.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:19 a.m. CST

    LargoJr, thanks for the full day&#39;s supply of irony.

    by Horseflesh

    That was beautiful.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:33 a.m. CST

    are any of the Transformers gonna have tits, thats what i want t

    by chickychow

    Bay&#39;s gotta get some tits on that screen, like sweet sweet Scarlett&#39;s.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:34 a.m. CST

    This is not fake, it is real.

    by Hung-Wei Lo

    Transformers are real, I tell you. Anyone who says differently is just kidding themselves. I have one living next door to me. It ate my dog.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Yeah Horseflesh

    by LargoJr

    I think I was what.. 8 at the time Starblazers came out? I know.. I know.. MOST 8 year olds are married with at least half-a-dozen kids .. I was a little behind the curve back then. Too much Japanese Anime I suppose... I didn&#39;t lose my virginity til I was 9, but there was this one time.. at Band Camp..

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:37 a.m. CST

    # of Michael Bays in the galaxy?

    by Calico Pete

    The question is, how many Michael Bays are there, and which one of them did Harry talk to? And does Harry know the one he talked to works for Radio Shack and was answering questions about voltage transformers?

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 1:21 a.m. CST

    This is lame..... DO MACROSS!!! NOT THIS SHITE...

    by Plazola_MEX

    Why bother to do a movie on such a lame ass transformers cartoon? Macross is far more great than transformers. Every time i saw the cartoon got numb and boring. The story (If it exist) is not creative. Some gay ass robots who fight little wars against each other. I&#39;m not a hater but there are some many great concepts rather than this. DO MACROSS SPIELBERG! It has story and it has a potential to be a great trilogy. Do it in the DO YOU REMEMBER LOVE Storyline. It can kick some serious ass. By the way what series to you are the most legendary? This-one-to-be-movie or Macross? I&#39;ll be waiting answer.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Micheal Bay???

    by Bronzewood

    Shit I totally forgot about that, fuck Micheal Bay and Fuck Harry for thinking he&#39;s hot shit for "Just getting off the phone with him" Hey Harry did you see Island? or Bad Boys II? Fuck Micheal Bay. Shit I&#39;ve got a great true story about Micheal Bay but it&#39;ll just sound like bullshit because this is the internet and none of you fucks know me so fuck it I&#39;ll save it for myself.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:05 a.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS ARE BEYOND RETARDED. THEY ARE ROBOTS FROM SPACE. WH

    by Shermdawg

    I preferred Thundercats. Now there was nothing retarded about that one. ;P

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Yes, I now realize I should have read the previous posts. But si

    by Shermdawg

    and knowing is half the battle.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:24 a.m. CST

    give me a fucking break. of course it&#39;s legit test footage.

    by captain_sulu

    retards.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Listen

    by board shitlez

    For the fifth time, they are tape decks and cars BECAUSE the computer on their preshitoric crashed space ship woke up in the 80s and remodelled them on contemporary technology as a means of disguise. In the story, if that hadn&#39;t happened, they would be flying and buzzing round in their old planet&#39;s forms - not a disguise. In updating Soundwave they are missing a trick. The whole thing is a nostalgia buzz, so it would be funny to have a central character that STILL IS in the 80s form, or by chance was modelled on a dilapidated tape deck. Character wise, his technology is shit hot, he just happens to turn into an old style tape deck. It&#39;d be funny, and a contrast to the utter sod that Soundwave is. And I want to see Megatron do his link to the black hole trick. Why have a go at Michael Bay - crash bang wallop is required. It aint Hamlet.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Somebody with a lot of free time over at WETA?

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay is still working?? Even after The Island???

    by redtom

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:36 a.m. CST

    I usually like Bay...

    by Zino

    ...and his sledgehammer approach to filmmaking. The guy&#39;s about as subtle as a brick wall on a motorway (or Freeway if you&#39;re American), and that can only be a good thing in today&#39;s world of PG13, Diet coke action movies. But The Island was A FUCKING DISGRACE. The product placement in that film was the worst I&#39;ve ever seen...even worse than I Robot. There was even one scene where Ewan Macgregor is drinking a beer, and the camera zooms in on the bottle as it sits on the table. Nothing else in shot - just the bottle. You would have been forgiven for thinking that this bottle was significant to the plot of the movie. But no, Bay just decided to randomly whore out his movie to anyone with a logo. The Island may have been a bomb at the BO, but I reckon it broke the

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Kids and Transformers fans??

    by wolverines claw

    See, this is the problem. Bay wants to please the kids of today as well as kids who were into Transformers in the 80&#39;s - and you can&#39;t please all the people! I can imagaine this turning into a &#39;Thunderbirds&#39; style fiasco where you have a really cool retro property which was percieved as being a &#39;kids&#39; show and bastardising it beyond all comprehension. Don&#39;t for the love of all that is holy make this a &#39;kids&#39; film as it will just end up being patronising to anyone over 4 years old.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 6:51 a.m. CST

    i never did get the fascination with Transformers

    by Peven

    even as a kid in the 80&#39;s, when they were at their height of popularity, i thought the whole concept was pretty lame and boring. Voltron has a lot more to offer in that genre, imo. hell, if they are going to make movies of 80&#39;s action cartoons why not make a Thundercats movie? with the technology today they could pull it off, and as far as i am concerned it is a lot easier to emotionally invest myself in some catpeople heroes than some hunks of metal that look like the new Chevy heavy truck line.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 6:58 a.m. CST

    I&#39;ll wait for the She-Ra movie...

    by CalculusThief

    with Kevin Spacey as Hordak, Uma Thurman as Adora/She-Ra, and Sir Anthony Hopkins as the voice of Spirit/Swift Wind. But they&#39;ll probably either go the Shrek route and cast Samuel L. Jackson as the wisecrackng african-american horse, or give the part to Richard Gere and turn it into some kind of cartoon musical with songs written by Elton John.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 7 a.m. CST

    You CAN have a convincing Transformer

    by magnius

    The managed it for a UK Ad for Citroen Cars http://www.devilducky.com/media/22272/

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST

    YOU DUMB ASS BAY

    by BRUTICUS

    NOONE WANTS A KIDS TRANSFORMERS MOVIE. ITS A COOL STORY THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE SCREEN WITH RESPECT YOU FUCKFACE.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 7:29 a.m. CST

    PWN ME NOW KEVIN SMITH

    by nomad202

    haha.

  • that is a joke, right? a movie based on a kiddie cartoon about some robots that transorm into cars, NEEDS to be respected as a mature, adult story on the big screen? right, next i&#39;ll see how it deserves the Oscar treatment.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 9:18 a.m. CST

    I found Thundercats to be retarded because there&#39;s no one on

    by FluffyUnbound

    There are the Thundercats, and then there&#39;s Mumm-Ra. So Mumm-Ra rambling on and on about how when he takes out the Thundercats he&#39;ll rule Cat Earth makes no sense. You&#39;re going to "rule" a handful of cat people? And an empty crypt? Ra baby, I think Cat Earth is big enough to accomodate six or seven people without everyone having to fight.

  • All would own.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Um you&#39;re forgetting the elvish people and robot bears that

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 9:50 a.m. CST

    And it wasn&#39;t "Cat Earth", the Thundercats were from Thundar

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Thundaar meets G. I. Joe meets Transformres

    by Borgnine JR

    Actually the new Transformers movie is about an auto garage run by trans-sexuals. There&#39;s more than meets the eye!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Is it an age thing?

    by DocPazuzu

    I&#39;m 38 which means most of my Saturday morning cartoon watching was during the mid to late 1970s. I&#39;ve seen a few episodes of Transformers but it always left me cold. What&#39;s the big deal? I can understand nostalgia and certainly don&#39;t mind giant robots fucking shit up on a big screen, but what&#39;s the deal with this particular franchise? It just seems so fucking dull, like a neverending toy commercial. Sure, I watched Blue Falcon and Dyno-Mutt when I was a kid but I wouldn&#39;t get a toon boner if I heard a big movie version was in the works. Why? Because the show was ASS.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:21 a.m. CST

    I want a Grape Ape movie.

    by Shermdawg

    It&#39;d be better than Kong.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Never mind this...

    by Pandas

    ..When are we going to get our Mysterious Cities of Gold movie? Ah, the joys of watching that cartoon series for an entire year on Children&#39;s BBC. I&#39;m sure they can condense it down to an hour and a half. I dare them.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:46 a.m. CST

    mysterious cities of gold be damned

    by BendersShinyAss

    I want my battle of the planets!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Pazuzu, being 10 years younger, i may be able to enlighten

    by BendersShinyAss

    The 80&#39;s dropped on us a whole heap of cool. Whether it be the likes of bit Arny, Cameron, star wars, and a whole range of TV. Who didn&#39;t like nightrider? seriously! But when it came to Transformer, there was a psychological tapping into of the kids of the 80&#39;s. our dads drove trucks, and our bigger brother drove sports cars. And there were our own dreams of being fighter pilots and shooting guns. So put all these toether with the added love of &#39;Robots&#39; - something passed down from the 60&#39;s. which itself was past down from schlock black and white Sci-fi. Well, it certainly was more than meets the eye. And reliving Transformers again with the advent of DVD. it&#39;s just a step back through time. But thundercats was always pretty crap. I hated that to fast to understand whats going on action. He-man wasn&#39;t too bad. But even as a 10 year old I found it rather Homo-erotic.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:01 a.m. CST

    THUNDERCATS WAS THE BOMB DIGGITTY, IT WASN&#39;T G.I.JOE, BUT IT

    by Shermdawg

    YEAH, I SAID IT. ROBUTS.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Plus Doc, if TransFormers is the blockbuster they expect it to b

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Which would, of course, KICK FUCKING ASS!!!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Robotech!!

    by BendersShinyAss

    Anyone notice that starscreams frozen jet friend was just robotech. And ther eseemed to be a bit of trouble with the accuracy of both the toys with they television counterparts. A sort of crossing between the two. What I mean is, Roboteck and the transformer toy looked the same, while the robotech toy and the Transformer cartoon look similar. i don&#39;t know what I&#39;m saying anymore. Yay. Robotech movie. But not before Evongel, or Voltron!!! the big cats Voltron, that is!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    My V.O. choices for the film include: George Clooney/Optimus Pr

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Robert Duvall/Ironhide, Alan Alda/Ratchet Seth Green/Huffer, Mos Def/Jazz, Keith David/Devastator, Rob Zombie/SkyWarp/ Carl Lumbly/Mirage BigBoy/Blaster, David Duchevney/Perceptor, Terry O&#39;quinn/WheelJack, Keifer Sutherland/Thundercracker, David Warner/Shockwave, Barry Pepper/Ratchet, Ashton Kutcher/Swideswipe, Wilmer Valderama/Sunstreaker Michael Dorn/Grimlock, and Frank Welker as Ravage/Laserbeak/Soundwave. As far as real humans, Adam Brody/Spike, James Gandalfini/Sparkplug Ben Mikenzie/Chip.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I wanna see a big screen version of Adolescent Radioactive Kung-

    by Immortal_Fish

    Or maybe they were turtles, but one thing&#39;s certain... it would be a REMAKE.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:48 a.m. CST

    inspired choices RC the wise

    by BendersShinyAss

    Imagine Bruce Willis as BumbleBee. Personally I can see someone like Kurtwood Smith as Megatron, or even Starscream. Man, I hope Starscream is the same little bitch. As for the human actors.... well.... That could ultimately bring down the film. I&#39;d like to see someone like Clooney as Sparkplug, But who for Spike??

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:50 a.m. CST

    You guys are all on Crack!! Shogun Warriors would kick the shit-

    by LargoJr

    All my friends and I had the giant 3+ foot tall toys. But I was the only one that figured out that the winged piece in the head was ACTUALLY a removable mini-jet that (due to a manufacturing flaw with the plastic parts) was stuck into the head and needed force to be removed! I RULE YER ASSES!! BWAHAHA HAHAhahahah hhahahahaha!! Ok.. Robotech is better, but only a little :(

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:54 a.m. CST

    FluffyUnbound Third Earth was quite diversely inhabited.

    by superninja

    You are forgeting the robotic bears (Burbles) and Willa and the woman warriors among others. This still doesn&#39;t prove the Third Earth was worth conquering, though.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Stop trying to make kids movies.

    by superninja

    It doesn&#39;t work. Adults do not know what kids think are cool. Making a film that appeals to all ages also doesn&#39;t COMPLETELY ALIENATE the key demographic. Have you guys seen the new Transformers shows? Their like Card Captors. No one wants to see 2 hours of that except 3yr olds and pervs.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 11:59 a.m. CST

    LargoJr

    by DocPazuzu

    Yes! I, too, know the power of MAZINGA! Shogun Warrior! I still have mine, complete with detachable red head-jet and (most of) his rockets. Hated the fucking wheels under the guys feet though.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Voltron

    by Reelheed

    word. http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war8.html

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Mazinga

    by BendersShinyAss

    theres a blast from the VERY EARLY past. I never saw any animation, but the toy I had was the shittiest of plastic, and he wasn&#39;t 3+. I remember he was also a jelly confectionary that expanded in water. Causing lots of chokage.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:35 p.m. CST

    MAZINGA!!! Talk about nostalgia!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:37 p.m. CST

    RE: MAZINGA!!!

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    Yeah, I had Mazinga, too. Although, I could not get the jet fighter out of his head, I was afraid I would break it somehow. But the triple-red-rocket launcher hand was money. Does anyone remember that show "TRANZOR Z"? They used the Mazinga design for that cartoon.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:39 p.m. CST

    dungeons and dragons movie

    by William Cutting

    not another sequel to that crap, I&#39;m talking ILM Tiamat goodness with Jon Heder from N.D. as presto yeeeey

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Almost Forgot...

    by Mr Nice Gaius

    I also used to have large Godzilla and Rodan figures that were about 2 1/2 feet tall. You could launch Godzilla&#39;s right hand like a missle (???) and make him appear to blow fire by pulling a lever on the back of his head. Funny, the "fire" was actually a plastic tongue that flicked out. The Rodan figure had clasping claws and flappable wings. The damn head broke off though. I gave those things away years ago and they would probably be worth a fortune at some Con by now.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Pac Man the Movie!!!!

    by quadrupletree

    Just kidding, made you look! HAHA. Seriously though, it was a GIANT FUCKING MAC TRUCK at comic-con! This movie&#39;s "green-lit" or my name&#39;s Fred.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Yes, Mazinga was money...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...but my fave 1970&#39;s toy was my Six Million Dollar Man action figure in tacky red jumpsuit, complete with plastic engine block he could lift "bionically". The Maskatron action figure kicked even more ass, actually, with his detachable masks and shoot-offable arms and legs.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I don&#39;t care what the naysayers have to say about it, Pac-Ma

    by Chief Redcock

    Dennis Hopper as the head ghost or BUST!!!! YEAH!!!!!!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 1:02 p.m. CST

    The most unintentionally hilarious 1970s toys, though...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...were Big Jim and all his other "Big" friends. I still have a couple of the Mattel catalogues left somewhere and viewed with today&#39;s sensibilities they are a riot of homoeroticism. Scenes of big, strapping, bare-chested action figure guys wearing really tight pants and camping together. Big Josh (with Village People facial hair, denim vest, denim shorts, hiking boots and an axe!) was the most blatant, but then you also had Big Jeff, Big Jack and Dr. Steel! They could be seen doing all kinds of manly things together, like going on safaris, skiing, motorcycle riding, sailing, off-roading, and mountaineering. It&#39;s like a tampon commercial for men.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I rest my case:

    by DocPazuzu

    http://www.vecchigiocattoli.it/bigjimlibro.jpg

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 2:24 p.m. CST

    80&#39;s homoeroticism

    by quadrupletree

    you wanna talk 80&#39;s homoeroticism, remember "My Buddy" dolls? http://www.dollinfo.com/mybud90s.htm THAT was a tampon commercial for boys!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Then there&#39;s good ol regular eroticism

    by quadrupletree

    As long as someone mentioned Mazinga-Z, my main memory of that show was the female robot Aphrodite-A who had missle tits. I was the only one of my friends old enough to realize just how over-the-top that was...

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I want a M.A.S.K. movie!

    by themikejonas

    I can see the poster tagline now: "You WILL believe a Camaro can fly..." Re: fans not caring about voice actors--dunno, I&#39;ve been to a TF forum or two, and there&#39;s plenty more than 50% who&#39;ll be very disappointed if Peter Cullen doesn&#39;t get the gig. Yes, it&#39;s a new continuity, but it&#39;s supposed to be closer to G1 than any of the other incarnations.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:24 p.m. CST

    How times have changed...

    by SK909

    Man... any trip to a toy store today and it&#39;s just depressing the lack of imagination and fun the kids of today are growing up with. In the 80&#39;s, you had a plethora of interesting (for kids, anyway) cartoons, toys, and movies to choose from and they were all battling one another for attention and shelf space at toys r&#39; us. I think toys r us wouldnt even be in existence if it wasn&#39;t for star wars and then the 1980&#39;s. Anyway, I haven&#39;t seen anyone mention Go-Bots. I can barely remember the cartoon, but the toys were like G.I. Joe sized transformers. Anyone remember that there were always characters that you barely saw but that were fucking impossible to find the action figures for? Snake-eyes is probably one of the most memorable, continuing in the tradition of Boba Fett. In Transformers, one such character that you almost never saw that I did have the toy version of was that big huge guy that could change into a rocket and a tank with an entire track for the tank that ran around the perimeter of the rocket launcher? The toy was massive... just like the SEVEN AND HALF FOOT air craft carrier that they made for G.I. Joe&#39;s. I remember always walking past the enormous box for it at Caldor&#39;s and Bradlees in NJ and it was something like a hundred bucks. Never got that one, but I did a lot of mental measuring as a kid to see if it would actually fit in my room. Another funny thing is how every show had this group of off-shoot misfits that would show up once in a while, and then they had their own line of toys to boot. In transformers it was the constructicons and the dinobots. In He-Man I think it was the Horrde or something like that? That thing even had it&#39;s own little swamp/castle greyskull like playset. And then in G.I. Joe it was that group of guys that I think ALSO lived in a swamp and they had tattoos and shit. The head guy had a cloth that hung over his head. Can&#39;t remember the name of their little gang... anyway, it&#39;s always fun to wax nostalgic on this stuff. It&#39;s no wonder all they&#39;re attempting to do now is remake the same cartoons and toys we grew up with. It&#39;s weird today, you see 9 year olds listening to eminem and singing the lyrics... trying to be hard and talking about sex at an age when a lot of us were building forts and arguing over whether BMX was better than Mongoose or whatever the hell it was. Your exposure to sex was usually by finding a nudie magazine in your dad&#39;s armoire or at the scary older kid&#39;s abandoned spot in the woods. Ahhh... how times have changed.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Incidentally, if they HAVE to make these movies...

    by SK909

    why not make a good movie, like Stand By Me, about what it was like to grow up in the 1980&#39;s?

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Pretty Impressive

    by jodocus

    If it&#39;s fake then ILM needs to hire the guy that did it. I look pretty damn good to me!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Whoops

    by jodocus

    "I look" = "It looked" well the transormation looked good. After the transformation looked a little hoakie though!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Whoops Again!

    by jodocus

    transormation = transformation The hoakie part didn&#39;t look any worse than some shots from King Kong! Friend don&#39;t let friends drink and type!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:35 p.m. CST

    no Kong?

    by CatoTheCensor

    Hard to fathom when you think what this site was like a a month ago.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 4:43 p.m. CST

    What we need is a Visionaries movie

    by PhilConnors

    Knights of the Magical Light indeed.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Oddly enough, "I call bullshit..."

    by Childe Roland

    ...also has its origins in the 80s. At least for me. 1987 was the year I was introduced by my high school friends to the card game Bullshit, which is like Uno or the popoular-on-college-campuses drinking game, Asshole, in that you lay down cards in numerical sequence, with the object being to get rid of your cards first. Only in Bullshit, you lay the cards face-down and try to convince your opponenets that you have multiples of a given number so you can get rid of them faster. If you don&#39;t believe the guy accross from you has three threes, for instance, you snatch up his cards and call "Bullshit!" If you&#39;re right, he has to take the whole pile. If you&#39;re wrong, it&#39;s yours. As for the appeal of Transformers, I dug them specifically because they reminded me of the Shogun Warriors I had played with as a younger kid. The first wave of Transformers and the toon came out about the time I turned 10 and, even then, I thought it was pretty fucking funny that the giant robots&#39; ships had assumed the cars and planes and whatnot were the dominant lifeforms on the planet. The backstory was engaging and sophisticated enough to keep me digging the comic books and cartoons through Junior High. But I boxed up all the toys with my G.I. Joes when I got to High School. Then I sold them in college for beer money so I could play Asshole. World keeps spinning. Looking forward to this movie, though.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Old School GI Joe with removable hands & FEET!

    by LargoJr

    I still remember a few of my toys from back then. Stretch Armstrong, the ORIGINAL G.I.Joes with the fuzzy short hair and beard, Tonka Trucks & Hot Wheels made from steel instead of plastic.. I thinik I had like 8 diffrent play sets for my GI Joes, including the Ocean/under water set, and the G.I. Joe Command Tower. Gigantic Orange tower with various rooms and a chair a figure could sit in, and rotate around with a big-ass light that worked as a spotlight you controled with the chair. Kinda wish I hadn&#39;t decided to do a big &#39;war-scene&#39; between all my GI Joes and my Star Wars toys, and simulated a nuclear attack by setting everything on fire with WD-40. I had build this huge moat full of water and once it all started burning.. well.. lets just say I "had some &#39;splainin to do Lucy!"

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:26 p.m. CST

    "You got the touch.........

    by Mel Garga

    "....you got the powahhhhh."

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Another reason to respect the Transformers franchise

    by Immortal_Fish

    It gave us the last role of the great, Shakesperian performer Orson Welles. Even he knew a role that would pair him opposite of Judd Nelson was belied by the greatness of the Transformer mythos. Respect the fat!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:38 p.m. CST

    And...

    by Immortal_Fish

    With all this chatter about cool toys from yesteryear, why hasn&#39;t anyone mentioned the Micronots? Now, THAT is fodder for a badass mobie. I had all those little plastic bastages. Acroyer could way kick Wolverine&#39;s ass. Great stuff, even when they started milking the premise with the ones with the removeable glow-in-the-dark brains. Gimme magnetized Baron Karza, that centaur assed muthafucka!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Oh man.. I LOVED my Micronauts!

    by LargoJr

    The parts were interchangeble.. but even better was my Space 1999 Eagle!!

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Yep...

    by Childe Roland

    ...I dug me some Micronauts, too. And largely for the same reason as the TFs initially. They reminded me of those cool ass Shogun Warriors. And why not...it all came from Japan, where toys are serious fucking business. Plus they all had that giant anime robot styling like Red Ronin from the old comic books. Hell, I was even entertained by the Voltron concept.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 6:04 p.m. CST

    "kids"? Shit. Thats a bad sign.

    by jrbarker

    When someone says they have made a "kids" movie. You know it will be shit. Thats just an excuse to pardon a crappy film. They just say, "don&#39;t knock it, its a KIDS movie". (I&#39;m looking at you, George Lucas.) Thats bull. A good movie is a good movie, whether its appropriate for all ages or for just adults. And once you try to pander to a child&#39;s sensibilities, the end result suffers greatly.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 6:09 p.m. CST

    To all of the Thundarr supporters this fan movie poster was link

    by Declan_Swartz

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181262/miscsites http://www.flyingclodhopper.com/thundarr/Info%20Pages/fanart.html

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 7 p.m. CST

    "Just got off the phone with Michael Bay"

    by Sizable Newt

    I want his number so I can verbally ass rape him. THE ISLAND was the mother fuckall king of product placement. The next runner up would be BLADE: TRINITY. Jessica Biel creates playlists on her iPod before kicking vamp ass. Bullshit.

  • Jan. 12, 2006, 10:22 p.m. CST

    what about the Gobots? Where is their film?

    by warp11

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 12:41 a.m. CST

    They have caller ID for a reason

    by Bong

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 1:33 a.m. CST

    This really has been a blast down memory lane with all these toy

    by BendersShinyAss

    Machine Men!! Now those dudes had a sound effect when they &#39;transformed?&#39; that rivaled Transformers!

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 1:37 a.m. CST

    And speaking of toys of old and Toy of now

    by BendersShinyAss

    Anyone recall just how fucking solid Transformers used to be. As oppose to the plastic shit they try to pass off these days as quality. I still have some of my Transformers in full working order. But I let the kiddies play with them and most of them just didn&#39;t survive. Kids today are so fucking rough!

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 5:08 a.m. CST

    by jimbubble

    Michael Bey,now there`s a name that makes me want to run out and see this movie..........................NOT! After the great big piles of steaming turd that were Pearl Harbour and the Island this charlatan shouldn`t be allowed behind the camera ever again...........I mean Transformers???...FFS! Grow the Fuck Up America!!!

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 5:09 a.m. CST

    by jimbubble

    Yea he`s so good I can`t even remember the fuckers name....LOL

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 2:57 p.m. CST

    please no robotech movie

    by INWOsuxRED

    wait a few years and make it a series. I don&#39;t want it to be wrapped up nicely in 2 hours. That wasn&#39;t the appeal of the show.

  • Jan. 13, 2006, 9:56 p.m. CST

    transformers... you know one thing...

    by unclefishbits

    Admittedly.. you cannot be too sure about all this chit chat. There IS more than meets the eye.

  • Jan. 14, 2006, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Transformers! More then meets the EYE

    by LargoJr

    Starscream:

  • Jan. 14, 2006, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Gen 1 Transformers or Visionaries

    by Krazeyivan

    Visionaries would rock! That is all.

  • Jan. 14, 2006, 7:48 p.m. CST

    A Boy and his Transformer....

    by Lordhoban

    I was actually excited that Bay could be doing Transformers until I read the EW article describing the direction they would be taking the film. Maybe the article was a misstep, but it made the whole thing seem like it was going to be about a Boy and his Transformer, in the vain of something like American Grafitti with robots. That 60s vibe, which seems to me to contradict the whole idea of Transformers. It could still go either way, as Bay has made some good movies in my opinion (The Rock, Bad Boys 1 and 2), but then, he&#39;s also made some mediocre messes, and some truly terrible ones as well (The Island, blah). Props to the Zero talkbacker for setting the record straight on why the Transformers have their form. It makes complete sense, and works just fine in explaning it (ship crashes, scanning local lifeforms and assuming that all dominant species are robotic in nature, thus immitating them to disguise themselves not realizing the meat creatures, humans, are the dominant species here). I&#39;m hoping for the best with this live action adaptation, same goes for the CGI Ninja Turtles.

  • Jan. 14, 2006, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Why Exactly Did The Autobots Make The Dinobots Again?

    by skoobyx

    I can understand them looking like motor vehicles as they were robots in disguise but wouldn&#39;t looking like dinosaurs blow their cover? I haven&#39;t seen an episode of the Transformers in about 22 years but I can still remember when they were introduced and the one transformer was saying to Optimus &#39;don&#39;t make me pull the plug on them&#39; and I was like &#39;yeah...they just want to live damn you!&#39; fortunately they did live and some dinobots became available right at the same time. I talked my parents into buying every one of them. Thank you very much bitter custody dispute.

  • Jan. 16, 2006, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Why Exactly Did The Autobots Make The Dinobots Again?

    by Darth Lazarou

    Well Skoobyx, it depends which version of their origin story you want to believe. In the cartoon Wheeljack and Ratchet just decided to build the Dinobots after being taken to a museum and being shown dinosaur fossils by Spike and Chip. In the comics the slightly more interesting explaination was that straight after the Autobot spaceship crashed on Earth (millions of years in the past) it detected the Decepticon Shockwave approaching the ship and used the last of it&#39;s energy to revive 5 Autobots to stop him, but in it&#39;s confused state it made them look like dinosaurs as they were still the dominant lifeform. Hmmm, I clearly have way to much free time.

  • Jan. 16, 2006, 10:38 a.m. CST

    The Island was, erm....

    by Fugazi32

    ...pretty sh*t. Just my opinion though.

  • Jan. 16, 2006, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Great summary, Darth Lazarou!

    by Immortal_Fish

    I always wondered why the ship&#39;s computer would mimic animal based life forms when thousands of years later it would mimic mineral based &#39;life forms&#39;. Still, way prefered the comic Dinobots. That whole "Me, Grimlock!" crap spilling out of technology beyond Earth human capability never sat well with me, even when I was 10.

  • Jan. 17, 2006, 2:48 a.m. CST

    if you were me...

    by Droogie Alex

  • Jan. 17, 2006, 2:50 a.m. CST

    not real

    by Droogie Alex

    this footage was shot with a DV camera, so you wouldn&#39;t be seeing 35mm sprocket holes. A good job (except for the "actor") but a obvious fan film.

  • Jan. 17, 2006, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Will Optimus Prime have prostate cancer?

    by K-pobuibo

    only the Robot Chicken knows.