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Sideshow gives us a detailed look at Juggernaut's suit and Beast's hairy package!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Sideshow toys is doing a pre-order on their X3 super expensive geek toys and so they have released images of their sculpts for Juggernaut and Beast. (Thanks to Doc Falken for the heads up!)
CLICK HERE TO SEE 'EM BOTH!
I really like the way Juggernaut looks... he's really damn creepy and while I miss the brick red dome, I have to say the costume doesn't look bad on him. Although, he does look a bit like Ram Man from HE-MAN, don't you think? Either way, it's cool lookin'.
And as for the Beast... Sideshow did top-level work as usual, I just really don't like the look of the beast... It looks like they got his feet right and that's about it. It's like they didn't want to do Hank McCoy in big human form, but also didn't want to do full on furry Beast. After seeing the work that can be done on digital hair recently with Kong I would have loved to have seen a Kong-level character with the Beast. I just wish they hadn't met in the middle... Maybe I'll like the Beast more in the actual film. I hope so. What do you folks think of the designs?
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They've also both been altered a bit for the film. Not necessarily for the better, I might add, but it's probably one of those things where the maquettes were harder to translate to a real-life medium than they thought they would be. Eh well. But Sideshow did some good work with these statues.
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and that Ratner will likely drive this film into the ground.
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Totally looks like Ram-Man. Scraptch that: it IS Ram-Man. It's either intentional or some production artist is subliminally reliving his childhood. Also, if they could digitally insert that Beast character into "Brokeback Mountain" as the Heath Ledger character, I will go see the movie.
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And why isn't he wearing any pants? (And yes, Juggernaut _totally_ looks like something out of the old He-Man cartoon.)
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Jan 07, 2006 4:52:52 PM CST
THE BEAST LOOKS ATROCIOUS IN THE MOVIE... THEY SHOULD'VE CGI
by napolean solo
WHy did they half step? He looks absolutely rubbish.
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Juggernaut looks like shit in the film... Beast looks about as good as I could expect, though I still wish they just did a full CGI creation with just the voice of Sideshow Bob. I can't picture Kelsey being believable as a super-limber, ape-like creature.
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I think the sculpts do a pretty good job of bridging the gap between 2D comics and Living Breathing characters on film. Logical changes have to be made to translate any character from one medium to another. A lot has to be taken into account when an actor is having to pull the character off instead of the ink and paper versions that we all know and love. I think Harry is being a little to sticky over the look of Beast, since he has had dozens of looks/variations over the years in the comics, I think they did a pretty good job of boiling it down into a persona that true fans can recognize and that the actor can work with while creating a performance onscreen. Lets not forget the rabid rants of yesteryear when the first Xmen film was in production and the images/news got out about the changes from the classic blue and yellow suits! Those would have been kinda hard to work convincingly onscreen without major modifcations. The last two films have been some of the best comic adaptations ever put to film, and they managed to do it without silly looking spandex. Nuff Said!
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Jan 07, 2006 5:02:24 PM CST
Did they use the same material for Juggernauts shoulder armour a
by sydbarretsmydad
I mean, really....how are those things staying on!?!
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Where was his first appearance?
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Jan 07, 2006 5:31:42 PM CST
I dunno, I still miss the red. And it's not full enough of
by iamnicksaicnsn
COulda been worse... I guess?
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I believe they mean final as in the appearance, or costume/look, they finally settled on. These statues are based on pre-production designs, the final film versions differ.
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Nuff said. Nuff said.
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Are they really selling nude statues of Kelsey Grammer in blue fur?! AAAH!!!! *runs away in horror*
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That would be switched by rotating the top of her head...this, of course, would've totally fooled anyone. Instead they went with nude blue chick *yawn* ... in terms of 'theft', since Juggernaut predates He-Man and most of the Masters of the Universe, one suspects that Ram-Man (how's that for a Brokeback Mountain character dying to happen?) was cribbed from Juggernaut in the first place.
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It's just gross. Does he walk around the X-mansion popping squats and dropping dueces whenever the mood strikes him? This movie is going to be a hilarious trainwreck. Worse than Bloodrayne, you wait and see.
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being nude and having no dick..but mystique is nude and has no vagina...why no bitching about that?
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Jan 07, 2006 6:54:49 PM CST
I'm no X-Men aficionado, so someone please explain the Beast
by darthcorleone
Is he supposed to be nude? Is he supposed to be a eunuch? It's difficult to tell from that statue what's going on down there. Is this addressed in the comics?
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Does she have a vagina but keeps a constant shapeshift restricted to that area in effect in order to conceal it?
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must've hurt
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right after this:"THAT'S NO FURRY BLUE CODPIECE,THAT'S MY BEAST" no?ok fine...you come up with better.
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I wish they would have made him rust colored though.
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...blue balls.
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I have nothing bad to say about this movie. I haven't read the script, I have no idea what its fully about and I won't judge it on a teaser and a few images that I've seen so far. Juggernaut looks great I think, Beast, I was less than enthused when I saw him BUT thats just teaser footage, lets wait to see how he plays out. To put this in perspective people lets think of these famous words : "Hugh Jackman as Wolverine? Oh this is so going to fucking suck."
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I didn't watch much of He-Man(Though I can still recite the poem from my Nephew's He-Man electric toothbrush!)so I found a pic of Ram Man. Incase anyone else wants to see it check it out here.
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Jugs has nipples.... on his head.
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Sorry, someone got to the eunuch joke before me.
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I always prefer the real option.
Movies were wrecked liked Cursed and Van Helsing because they went for CGI werewolves. Whick look so fake. -
Am I the only one who sees that? They're similar...but that's not what they look like at all. Watch the trailer again.
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Jan 07, 2006 10:38:29 PM CST
All I know is Beast looks like classic Beast and not the stupid
by zerocorpse
I REALLY hate that they turned Beast into- well- "the Beast" from the "Beauty and the Beast" TV series. Whose idea was it to start drawing Hank like a cat? It's STUPID. Was that a Whedon idea? It seems like it, as his ideas are usually this cheesy and derrivative.
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You've seen the future Quint. Just as soon as the mo-cap hardware and software becomes a standard commercial packages, expect all the great movie monsters to go that way. It's the *only* way to believable werewolves, Predators, Aliens, etc.
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Grant Morrison's. And it was a good idea, as previously beast just looked like a blue Wolverine in his underwear.
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http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/beast.gif
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Actually, I mentioned that in my first post, which was actually the very first post. Don't know if you just skipped it or whatever.
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So is everybody warming up to Ratner now? It is good to see recent X-Men Talkbacks without Ratner bashing. Oh, and by the way, Ram Man was cool!
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Jan 08, 2006 12:52:30 AM CST
No, Ratner's still a fucking hack piece of dog shit. He pret
by axelfoley
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This news really has nothing to do with Ratner, you know.
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The description says this was an early design for Juggernaut and Beast, they even go into detail how Juggernaut's designed changed from this to the final version in the movie... Personally I think this early version of Juggernaut is waaaay better than what ended up in the final version of the movie. Just the fact that he has a shirt on in this version makes it less noticable how painfully fake the muscle suit is. And why would they make his helmet smaller in the movie version just to match better with Magneto's? Its stuff like that that really pisses me off. I can't wait to see Storm do a tornado punch. Right. Eff this.
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LOL! Yeah, I know Ratner did not design Juggernaught and Beast. I was just commenting on how X-Men Talkbacks are usually filled with hate for Ratner, regardless of what department of the movie is being disscussed. It looks like you and axelfoley have answered my question, in typical AICN style.
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i'm sorry, that just looks totally wrong. put some PANTS on him!
am i the only person who likes frank quitely's cat-form beast more than the ape-like beast? in the cat form he reminds me of the beast in the cocteau film and i thought that was pretty bad-ass.
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but the cocteau beast from the 1946 film. i'm almost positive i read an interview with quitely or morrison where they discussed this--anyone else remember what i'm talking about?
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Jan 08, 2006 2:53:44 AM CST
beast kinda reminds me of the smart gremlin from gremlins 2...
by blckmgk13
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Oh really? Why? All I said was "This news has nothing to do with Ratner, you know." I know, I was being such a Ratner-hating douche right there. Give me a break, man.
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Damn - these look cool. Yeah, granted the Juggernaut doesn't look EXACTLY like the comic version...but then, very few of the X-Men universe do, costume-wise.As for Juggernaut looking like what (?) Ram Man ???. I never watched the He-Man series but from the name alone, it sounds like he was derived from Juggernaut...and how many costume variations can you give someone whose whole super power is running head first into stuff ? Anyhow - back to the point - expectations are high. (In my case, higher than Superman Returns. I'm still not sold on that. "Returns" from where ? Is it linked somehow to the Reeve movies ? At least "Batman Begins" implied in its title that it was a reboot. ) I would be a helluvalot happier though if The Beast wore pants. Wow - deja vouz - didn't we have the same discussion when the first pantsless Hulk figure was shown here a few years ago ?
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Sorry, I guess I took your Post out of context.
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Jan 08, 2006 6:27:45 AM CST
Robin P: "I'm still not sold on that (Superman Returns). "Re
by triumph poops!
Actually yes. Reeve's movies 1 and 2 still take place..."Returns" gets wedged in after that...and then technically Reeve's 3 and 4 never happened. Or so the story seems to go. Personally, while I can sort of tolerate Superman 3 (I thought the Clark/Lana scenes were good) I'm perfectly content to toss Superman 4 into the trash bin. Seriously, who the hell will miss the Nuclear Man and some of the all-time WORST bottom of the barrel special effects EVER put on film? Oh, as for the statues -- they look all right. Juggernaut looks somewhat similar to the comic incarnation (it's a guy wearing a big helmet) and the Beast basically seems all right. Though like others have noted and asked, I can't understand why the hell he lost his package. No wonder his character is such the intellectual book reader. You would be, too, if you had no ability to ever get it on!
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I mean, it's an unofficial sequel to the first two. It's not actually supposed to replace canon, but you could look at it that way if you want. The "...returns" angle works two ways, in that regard: the franchise returns and, in the movie, he returns to Earth from Krypton.
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We comic nerds are WAY too picky...
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Right after he tells the President in part II that he won't leave again. Way to stick with continuity, Singer!
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I hope Beast doesn't get butt "nekkid" in the movie. Although I am digging the look of Juggernaut. Oh and as for Superman, I would have hightailed it too after nearly getting my ass kicked by Nuclear Man (pronounced Nookeeler by W) and Jon fucking Cryer.
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How can he return from Krypton ? Krypton is destroyed and Earth is where he comes next. To return somewhere, you would have had to have already been there at one point, gone away & come back. Okay the franchise returning works, though. I had no idea that these WERE linked to the Reeve films, thanks for the input, guys.
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. . . isn't he in GWAR?
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. . . isn't he in GWAR?
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Jan 08, 2006 10:38:48 AM CST
If someone rub's Hank's chest, does his "lipstick" come
by big bad clone
Plus, Beast must stink like hell. Imagine how often they need to call a plumber out to the X-Mansion to get use masses of blue fur out of the pipes.Or do they just wash Dr. McCoy in a tub out in the yard?
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LMAO. Astute observation there Quint. While the script reviews and set reports have pretty much killed my enthusiasm for X3... I'm now pretty damned psyched for someone to do a He-Man movie... (let's pretend that Dolph Lundgren thing never happened). I mean, if Ram-Man can be made to look that cool... Imagine a stylistically similar Mer-Man, or Beast-Man, or Skeletor! I HAVE THE POWER!!!
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Jan 08, 2006 11:39:44 AM CST
beast just looks like a fuzzy blue version of abe sapien
by shoulderdevil
which is kinda funny as that was played by niles.
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I don't follow. Superman travels from Earth to Krypton, or what's left of Krypton, which are (I think) clusters of asteroids, to search for some other form of life other than his own. When he finds bupkus, he returns to Earth.
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I didn't know that there was a link between this & the Reeve movies and I sure as hell didn't know that he goes looking for remnants of his home planet, hence the "Return" of the title. Sorry for any confusion, and thanks for the assist.
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Why the hell can't anyone keep to a talk back topic. As for X3 I think that the concern shouldn't be what these two characters look like as much as why the hell Ratner is finding it necesary to include every B-rate mutant from the comics in this movie. I'm afraid that the story will be incredibly weak/ uneffective and we'll all have a 2 hour cameo fest to sit through...with that said I'm still going to see it
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...how do you feel about the maquettes, ClarkK82? Jackass.
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With the maquettes... while I'd generally expect that people who work with "Sideshow Collectibles" read comics, I have to wonder. First, let me say that, overall, I like their renderings of the characters. In particular, I liked that they
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You morons! He has a retractable penis, just like a cat!
He is part beast after all...
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I get it. He is smart. He reads books. He's got glasses. Maybe an action pose for the little blue man? Something that doesn't make you immediately check out his package. And I double-triple dog someone to put that Beast statue on their office desk and display it proudly. Also the lightness of the blue makes him look kinda like a studly gentlemen.
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KIDDING!!! I hate when fanboy douchebags on these boards say you're jealous of whomever you're bashing. I swear they have to be the mother of whoever is being bashed, cause only a mother would say "they're only making fun cause they're jealous."
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"Whatcha you gonna do with all that SACK, ALL THAT SACK INSIDE YOUR BELT!?"..... -
Mystique had no vajy because she had shapeshifted it under her scalp for easy access while washing her hair ... no Herbal Essences needed here. As for Beastes' pieces, heed the lesson of "Star Trek 6" - "Not every species has their genitals in the same place." I'm much more concerned about his stank ass, fur matted with week-old, hardened dingleberries, choking out Xavier's gifted students. The health dept. would put a stop to that, post haste.
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Jan 08, 2006 7:45:23 PM CST
Oh how I wish I was a fat coke snorting wannabe black guy who ma
by axelfoley
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My bad. I skipped over the post. :-/
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Jan 08, 2006 11:40:43 PM CST
They both look great... other than the BEAST needing shorts (!!!
by jdanielp
If the BEAST had shorts and JUGGY was his giant self with the added girth, then I'd be tickled pink. As is, ...well, ...it could be a lot worse. We all know Hollywood. It REALLY COULD be a lot worse. And this no worse than the "BATMAN BEGINS" Bat-suit design, visually speaking.
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A couple dozen underage girls say you're wrong. The only place the beast differs from Kelsey is he has less body hair.
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Jan 09, 2006 10:49:37 AM CST
Well...I guess Beast doesn't have blue balls at all! Hahaha
by r.c. the "wise"
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The maquettes look nice for what they are, it still isn't the Juggernaut from the comics, alrhough i like the look of this helmet more than what ended up on film. I don't have a huge problem with these variations because my favorite part of these movies is seeing my favorite characters in a "real life" setting. Beast looks good, if not a little too upright, I always prefered the squatty, more ape-like beast. I suppose Grammer's old ass knees couldn't handle the stress so what's the point of putting the maquettes in the pose. There you go Ribbons, ass bag
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Jan 09, 2006 4:44:16 PM CST
is the shilloette next to juggernaunt the robot from METROPOLIS?
by s0nicdeathmonkey
or am i crazy?
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http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/art/e/r/ericvonl/billy.jpg (warning: nudity) Coincidence? ... yeah, probably. :-)
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Didn't they realise the instant those images appeared online, they'd feature in an AICN talkback. What did they expect?
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