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Capone's Top 50 Narrative Features, Top 20 Documentaries and Worst Films of the Year!!!
Hey folks, Harry here - still cramming the movies, several a day at this point wanting to give every last release (world wide) in 05 that these eyes have seen a look - my list hits Jan 1, 2006 - cuz, I'm not finished watching films till the fireworks start cracking. Capone's throwing in the towel for 2005 and here's what he's come up with. Enjoy...
Hey, everyone. Capone in Chicago here. If you can't stand writers who can't
narrow the field to the 10 best for a given year, I suggest you stay far
away from what follows. The 50 best feature films I saw in 2005; the 20 best
documentaries; a few of the finest reissues; and a slew of awful shit that
stole my precious time and made me angry to have aged even 90 minutes while
watching them. If you hate long lists, stop reading at Number 10, bitches.
If you like great films, read all the way to the end. I throw myself at your
mercy of your Talkbacks.
BEST FEATURES OF 2005
1. Munich--This marks the first time a film by Steven Spielberg has ever
topped one of my lists. When compiling my Best of... films, I asked myself:
what films did I hold onto the longest either because 1). I enjoyed thinking
of them or 2). because the films simply wouldn't let go of me. Munich haunts
me. I've only seen it once, but I know I'll go again and again because it
works on about 100 different levels. Argue all you want about whether
Spielberg is a friend to Israel or not after this work. His mission in life
has always been to make compelling movies. He hasn't always succeeded, but
this may be the most complete effort of his career: a film that doesn't have
easy answers about the vicious cycle of global retaliation. I don't
recommend that you see Munich--I dare you to.
2. A History of Violence--Very similar to Munich in so many ways, David
Cronenberg's most mature work examines a man battling to be good against his
own blood-thirsty skills.
3. Sin City--True, this was the most visually stunning and ambitious film of
2005, but this handful of Frank Miller morality plays also has great acting
and chilling stories to tell.
4. Syriana--Big drug companies, corporate greed, political practices, and
oil corporations were all under attack in 2005, but no film showed the
totality of these issues better than Syriana, a work that adds to the
argument that the Oscars needs an award for ensemble acting (further
evidence in 2005 includes Match Point and Crash).
5. Match Point--Not simply great because it's Woody Allen's finest work in
many years, but because it’s one of the least conventional, most intriguing
and mysterious works of the year. This decidedly joke-free, thrilling
love-story-turned-crime-drama is a reason to be excited about every Allen
movie from this point forward. Long-time fans pray Match Point isn't just a
fluke, but even if it is, every great writer-director should have such a
fluke! It opens in most cities January 6.
6. Brokeback Mountain--Greatest love story of 2005, gay or otherwise, in a
year filled with many great films about and with gay characters. First off,
the film isn't about being gay. It's about being separated for long
stretches from the one person in the world who truly understands and loves
you. It's about living a lifetime's worth of lies. And it's about two of
finest performances of the year. Brokeback isn't just a masterpiece; it's a
landmark.
7. King Kong--You have to give props to films that were about pure
entertainment (as opposed to the heavy subject matters in films 1 through
6), not that King Kong doesn't have its well-handled deep emotions. Not only
the best special effects film of 2005, but also a film that doesn't
mishandle or use CGI to overkill. A magnificent Naomi Watts provides a
tremendous amount of heart to the work, and let us not forget the tears we
shed the first time our eyes saw the Empire State Building in the distance.
8. Hustle & Flow--I, along with many of my fellow white-bread types, was
astonished to discover that despite everything I was taught in elementary
school, pimpin' is not easy. Along with his devastating role in Crash (and
the new Mary J. Blige video), Terrence Howard entered the master class of
actors in 2005. But it is his role as a small-time Memphis pimp dreaming of
being a hip-hop star that shook the earth. I'd be remiss if I didn't also
recognize Anthony Anderson as Howard's music producer. Between this role and
his recent television work on “The Shield,” Anderson has hopefully left his
dumb-ass comedy movies behind and graduated to something more in tune with
his abilities.
9. Batman Begins--The rebirth of the DC Comics film empire...we hope.
10. Capote--For as much as has been written about the lack of quality female
roles in 2005, it's been somewhat overlooked that this will be one of the
toughest years to select Best Actor winners at the various 2006 award shows.
Philip Seymour Hoffman might be my favorite and the most convincing playing
a tortured Truman Capote in the years of his writing In Cold Blood.
And now, here is the rest of the best, best of the rest, with limited
comments.
11. Me and You and Everyone We Know--Coming out of left field, quirky
stories of human behavior written and co-starring the engaging Miranda July.
You must see to understand and believe this film, one of the true
discoveries of 2005.
12. The 40-Year-Old Virgin--Funniest movie of the year.
13. The Squid and the Whale--Comedic bitterness at its finest.
14. Good Night and Good Luck--An insanely terrific cast, beautiful
black-and-white photography, and Sen. Joe McCarthy as himself. George
Clooney had a lot to be proud of in 2005.
15. Crash--I’ve actually noticed a critical backlash to this film in some
circles, and while I can understand that some critics may not have been as
moved by Crash as others, I can’t quite figure out the intense dislike I’ve
sensed. Fortunately, the public kept this brave little movie alive for much
of the first half of 2005. All I know is when I walked out of Crash (knowing
absolutely nothing about it going in early 2005), my heart was racing.
16. The New World--Terrence Mallick's dream-like telling of the relationship
between Capt. John Smith and Pocahontas, played by mesmerizing newcomer
Q'Orianka Kilcher. There are many with shorter attention spans who will find
this film tedious beyond belief (I was sitting on that fence for about the
first hour), but once you start to see where the film is going and how
expansive its vision is, I believe most of you will find it a fulfilling
experience. It opens in most cities on January 20.
17. Broken Flowers--I never dreamed Bill Murray would top his work in Lost
in Translation so soon, but I argue he's done so with this collaboration
with Jim Jarmusch. A touching, humorous look at a modern Don Juan past his
prime but still ready for one last search for happiness.
18. The Descent--From the director of the truly awesome Dog Soldiers, a
Butt-Numb-a-Thon discovery that I hope will find a North American audience
in 2006. A group of adventurous women go cave climbing in a
thought-to-be-unexplored location and soon find out that they aren't the
only ones down there. Claustrophobia has never seemed so constraining, and
did I mention the creatures?
19. Sympathy for Lady Vengeance--Another BNAT premiere, the latest from
South Korea's Chan-wook Park (Oldboy) and the final part in his Vengeance
trilogy. The man has not lost a thing over the years, and this film proves
it. A cinematic punch in the gut.
20. Brick--This wonderful film from newcomer Rian Johnson is scheduled for a
March 2006 release, but it made the festival circuit in '05. One of the
finest works from a first-time writer-director I've seen in ages. Johnson
puts old-school film noir/pulp fiction dialogue in the mouths of high
schoolers in this rich and hard-hitting crime film.
21. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang--Probably the smartest screenplay of 2005, and one
of the funniest.
22. The Libertine--Don't you dare believe what Entertainment Weekly says.
Johnny Depp is as good here as he ever is, and when he opens the film
looking directly at the camera and says “I do not want to to like me,” you
try as you might not to. But his portrayal of the sleaziest of the sleazy
aristocrats is far from playful. He's a mean, nasty, foul, disease-ridden
bastard. I'll have more to say on this movie when it opens in January.
23. The Hidden Blade--From the Japanese director of the equally brilliant
The Twilight Samurai comes this tale of a low-ranking samurai ordered to
kill a friend. This multi-faceted work shows us compassion, love, and the
encroaching power of modern Western warfare that ultimately wiped out the
samurai. As realistic a samurai story as I've ever seen.
24. Walk the Line--Anchored by two great lead performances, this Johnny Cash
biopic reminded us about the dark power of one of America's most beloved and
flawed singers.
25. Cinderella Man--This sadly overlooked biography presented us with yet
another outstanding Russell Crowe performance, this time as a washed-up
boxer who gets one last chance to be a champion.
26. Sarah Silverman: Jesus Is Magic--She's hot, she's raunchy, she has great
hair. What's not to love about Silverman's combination of stand-up concert
film and sketch comedy?
27. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire--Best Potter Ever.
28. Hostel--Again, technically a 2006 release (January 6 to be precise), but
many saw it in '05. Writer-director Eli Roth has constructed the perfect
terror film. It's not exactly a horror film, but as an act of terror against
the poor unfortunates (in his film about an unthinkable building in Eastern
Europe where the rich can pay to kill kidnapped tourists), Hostel delivers
on exactly what its creepy posters and trailers promise: uncompromized
brutality. A major step up from Roth's last film, Cabin Fever.
29. Nine Lives--Nine short stories about women, some of which are loosely
related to each other. Another major ensemble accomplishment.
30. The Ice Harvest--A sharp, bloody work from Harold Ramis, his best film
in ages.
31. Cache--Michael Haneke loves to fuck with his audience and his
characters, and never more so than with this film (which will open in most
cities in the first quarter of 2006). A seemingly average upper-class French
family (headed by Daniel Auteuil and Juliette Binoche) receives a strange
series of video tapes of their home, under surveillance by an unknown
watcher. Although showing nothing particularly shocking, the very idea of
being watched opens up several can of worms in the family that lead to
anxiety, false accusations, and a series of shocking outcomes. This one will
keep you guessing and wondering long after the film is over.
32. North Country--When this sex discrimination film effectively tanked at
the box office, all the critical praise it initially garnered seemed to go
right out the window, which is something of a tragedy since Charlize Theron
turns in a performance as good, if not better, than she did in Monster.
33. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada--Starring and directed by Tommy
Lee Jones, turning in his most enduring role since the “Lonesome Dove”
miniseries. Jones plays a man who vows to take the body of his dead friend
across the border from Texas into Mexico, and drags the man's killer along
for the torturous ride. You have never seen a film like this before.
34. Palindromes--Todd Solondz's latest bit of blissful weirdness.
35. The Beat That My Heart Skipped--The slick, faithful French remake of
James Toback's Fingers.
36. 5x2--Five stories, told in reverse order, concerning the love affair and
ultimate breakup of a French couple. We've seen this technique used before,
but perhaps never so effectively.
37. The Constant Gardener
38. Lord of War
39. The Devil's Rejects--Rob Zombie finds his inner filmmaker artist and
makes this exceptional torture classic. A far cry from his bloated House of
1,000 Corpses.
40. War of the Worlds
41. Mysterious Skin
42. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
43. Howl's Moving Castle
44. Manderlay--Set to open in most cities in the first quarter of 2006, Lars
von Trier's sequel to Dogville is even more of a condemnation of American
history, this time tackling the nation's history of slavery. His ideas are
often way the hell out there, sometimes not even based in reality, but that
doesn't make his films any less watchable and thought-provoking.
45. A Hole in My Heart--I find it impossible not to recommend a film that
features labia-reduction surgery. Good luck finding this Swedish delight.
46. Junebug--While not nearly as ground-breaking and amazing as come critics
have led you to believe, there is an honesty here that is undeniable. And
then, of course, there's Amy Adams’s breakthrough performance.
47. Corpse Bride
48. Millions--Danny Boyle's delightful follow-up to 28 Days Later, about a
pair of young brothers who find a whole lot of money.
49. Last Days--Underrated, underappreciated Gus van Sant film about the
final hours of a fading rock star.
50. Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith-- I swear I did not
deliberately put this film at the bottom of my list, but considering that
neither Episode I or II made any of my Best of... lists in the last six
years, Sith was a massive improvement and the saving grace of the newer
trilogy.
BEST DOCUMENTARIES OF 2005
1. Murderball
2. Grizzly Man
3. The Aristocrats
4. Reel Paradise
5. Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
6. Shake Hands with the Devil
7. New York Doll
8. Unknown White Male
9. Double Dare
10. Rock School
11. The Last Mogul
12. Inside Deep Throat
13. Tell Them Who You Are
14. The White Diamond
15. March of the Penguins
16. McLibel
17. We Jam Econo
18. Mad Hot Ballroom
19. Aliens of the Deep
20. Lipstick & Dynamite
BEST REISSUES OF 2005
1. Major Dundee
2. The Passenger
3. Elevator to the Gallows
WORST FILMS OF 2005 (in no particular order, other than alphabetical)
Aeon Flux; Alone in the Dark; Are We There Yet?; Be Cool; Bewitched;
Boogeyman; The Cave; Cheaper By the Dozen 2; Cry Wolf; Cursed; D.E.B.S.;
Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo; Dirty Love; dot the i; Elektra; Fantastic 4;
The Fog; Fun with Dick and Jane; Guess Who; Herbie: Fully Loaded; Hide and
Seek; The Honeymooners; House of D; Jiminy Glick in LaLaWood; Just Friends;
King's Ransom; The Legend of Zorro; The Man; Man of the House; Mindhunters;
Miss Congeniality 2; Must Love Dogs; The Pacifier; Rebound; The Ringer; Son
of the Mask; A Sound of Thunder; Stealth; Venom; The Wedding Date; White
Noise; XXX: State of the Union; Yours, Mine and Ours.
My two biggest disappointments of 2005 were Casanova and Memoirs of a
Geisha. They were probably the two most beautiful films I sat through in
'05, and they both bored me to tears. I'd be happy to simply give Memoirs
the Oscar for costumes today; it deserves it. But only if it meant I'd never
have to watch it again. I'm still utterly perplexed by how today’s three
most beautiful Asian actresses could so completely drain me of inspiration
and interest in this film. As for Casanova, Heath Ledger's mumblings are
laughable and the film's “poignant” message about equality of the sexes is
dated and clumsy.
Capone
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I can't believe he sat through all those crappy romantic comedies.
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you've just made me realise how many good films ive missed this year! gonna have to rent a hell of a lot of dvds in the next 6 months
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Dec 29, 2005 11:32:49 AM CST
So Von Trier hasn't gotten it all out of his system yet, eh?
by iamjack'suserid
I mean, it's not like any other country has a notorious past. : /
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Hooray for me!!!!
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How can this movie be at the worst of 2005? The movie is one of the best movies _ever made_!!
Just kidding of course.
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brokeback mountin' is the greatest love story of 2005. Hollywood sucks.
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is a great movie, and good one to watch on christmas too. 'Sunshine' is going to rock you hard.
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The rest...I don't know, I've seen like 5 movies this year.
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Seriously. I think this list captured all of my favorites of the year. I saw a sneak of Geisha early on and loved it, so I don't know if it changed since then, but I would put it in my top 20. But Serenity was an awesome creative acheivement. Not a top 10 best, but certainly a top 10 favorite of the year.
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Dec 29, 2005 12:15:38 PM CST
Friday night not a damn thing funny...bitch better have my money
by superhero
'Cause...Pimpin' ain't easy!
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Not only should this have been on any list of top documentaries of the year, it should have been in your top 5, easy. I can only assume you missed it.
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Dec 29, 2005 12:19:30 PM CST
War Of The Worlds better than Corpse Bride and Millions?
by derlanghaarige
Uhm...no.
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...is almost perfect. Take away the crazy Tim Robbins in the basement and it's flawless. Works on so many level. Perfect effects. Cruise is great as is his daughter. What else do you people want?
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So Harry is daring us to see Munich. Frankly, since Harry is a robot-drone liberal who understands none of the issues he spews (99% of liberals are the same way), he has no credibility to dare me to do anything. Harry has NO credibility. The illogic of his politics are continually proven to him with facts, yet he drones on without a clue. Liberals are sheep. All sheep. Go read a book, and stop daring me to watch stuff.
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There is no "cycle of violence." Israel's Arab enemies want to destroy Israel. Israel does not want to destroy its enemies. Congratulations, you now all grasp the basics of the Israeli-Arab conflict.
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The only thing I'd really go against is Fun With Dick And Jane being one of the worste. Otherwise, we are pretty much the same person(but i'm not some rat bastard who got Sean Connery killed).
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Like most arrogant morons who lable liberals as people that don't know what they're talking about, you didn't even bother to look at what was said. It was CAPONE who dared us to see it, not Harry. Dolt. And I'm a damned republican... people like you give us bad names with the "liberal nutjobs."
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But otherwise, a very respectable list, Capone! Some little things though: THE funniest movie of the year was "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang", not ONE OF THEM, "The Constant Gardener" should've been higher up the list. And of course, SERENITY!!
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Dec 29, 2005 12:37:25 PM CST
a film that doesn't mishandle or use CGI to overkill.
by bendersshinyass
Ringbear, where are you dude? don't leave us just yet. you're work aint finished.
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Dec 29, 2005 12:40:00 PM CST
Jesus, so more than one film a week qualifies to be on a "Best O
by ar42
No wonder Hollywood keeps churning out crap if everyone's expectations are this low.
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Dec 29, 2005 12:53:54 PM CST
Capone, you DID put ROTS on the bottom of the list deliberately
by drompter
Admit it. You were just giving the finger to the fans.
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Dec 29, 2005 12:58:16 PM CST
HA HA!!! Capote better than Serenity! Eat it, Bitches!!!
by borgnine jr
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Dec 29, 2005 1:06:07 PM CST
Tim Robbins was one of the two only good things in WOTW.
by derlanghaarige
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How was he "one of America's most flawed" singers? He's not the only dude who ever had a drug problem. But then he straightened it out and lived happily married into his 70s. I mean come on, Sly Stone got so fucked up we haven't heard from him in 30 years, Rick James tied up some lady and burned her with a crack pipe, didn't Chuck Berry put cameras in the toilets at his restaraunt? That would seem more flawed to me. I don't think Johnny Cash is even in the top ten. But anyway, sorry to bitch bud. I'm glad you put Broken Flowers on there, that movie was pretty underrated. Same with Devil's Rejects.
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You didn't put Guy Ritchie's "REVOLVER" in the top 50. Have you no shame.
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Lucas, Spielberg, Romero,Jackson made SF/Fantasy movies. We got Narnia, Serenity and Harry Potter(book and movie). R30 (DVD/CD), Live 8 (Internet/tv/DVD): Pink Floyd Reunited-need I say more? YES. Resident fucking Evil 4 (PS/Gamecube). If you thought this was a crappy year, you are a dumb motherfucker. I honestly can
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That was the best mainstream movie I saw all year, but it's on hardly anyone's list. I guess it'll come into its own in about ten more years when Gulf War III gears up.
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Dec 29, 2005 1:43:13 PM CST
DerLanghaarige - don't keep us in suspense... Was it the fog
by scrumdiddly
Also known as the "honk and watch all the funny humans run thataway" horn.
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Israelis good, not just good but holy and "chosen". Brown people bad.
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Dec 29, 2005 1:57:30 PM CST
" Not only the best special effects film of 2005, but also a fil
by board shitlez
No. Kong's CGI superhuman juggling from Naomi Watts = overuse of CGI. Self indulgent in the extreme.
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did anyone else see bittersweet life?that movie was so simple but so amazing i couldn't help but watch it 3 times in 2 days...definitely in my top 5 of 2005...
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Considering the many overblown, cartoonishly laughable CGI sequences in "Kong", I must take issue with the notion that the CGI in this movie wasn't mishandled or overused. The insane Tom & Jerry level of much of the action in this movie is the thing that has stuck with me the most.
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Dec 29, 2005 2:15:57 PM CST
Uberman, you are a dumb-fuck waste of space, and you need to hav
by bunny_lebowski
That is all. Have a nice day. :)
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A bit slow, but a great fairwell from Bergman, one of history's greatest filmakers.
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Should easily be in the top 20. Certianly above War of the World. And read my lips...Kong is WAY too overrated. NOBODY i knows liked the movie. Nothing but love for Episode III. I mean my MOTHER land my brothers Fiance thought the movie was good...and they aint star wars fans. My brothers fiance didn't care for Kong.
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Personally, I didn't like it. You needed to feel for the big guy, and instead, to me at least, it just felt like Watts was a big skank, leading him to his death. Take out all the nifty CG, and the acting really doesn't hold up either (except for watts). IMO, Jack Black was horribly miscast.
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The scene(s) that really stuck out for me were when the film crew was rowing to the island -- worst water CGI I've seen in a long time. I couldn't believe that got approved. And when it all shakes down... I have to admit Kong was a disappointment. Its most admirable qualities were drowned by too much story padding -- to much BS. I predict it will be virtually forgotten in a year's time -- and it pains me to say that.
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Again--and this is what infuriates people on this site--when this flick released AICN was touting it as a masterpiece. Harry himself jumped up and actually engaged talkbackers in dialogue on the boards in support of the "brilliant" WOTW. Now it's like none of it ever happened.
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The dialog in Kong was at times downright dreadful, worse than anything in SITH. There was no development of the Driscoll\Darrow relationship, I didn't buy it for a second. At least Anakin\Padme had conversations together and got to know each other a tad, and ended up in situations that brought them closer together(in EP II that is). And as for stupidity...I can believe that the retarded Jedi, who get killed by Sidious while attempting to arrest him with Windu, got killed by some overwhelming dark side effects or mind-clouding or some shit, dumb but at least there's an out, but the dudes who not only survive, but throw stupid lines of dialog at each other, while running along with the stampeding Dinosaurs in KONG was the dumbest shit I've seen in years. Actually no...the bit where the kid unloads a Tommy Gun point blank at Driscoll to shoot the bugs off him and doesn't hit Driscoll with a single bullet...THAT is the dumbest shit I've seen in years. The only thing Kong had going for it was the Ape\Darrow interactions which were kind of OK, but then went over the top with that stupid "Walk like and Egyptian" crap. Kong is nothing but a stupid popcorn film, and there are many better and less stupid popcorn films out there. LOTR was a cinematic Masterpiece, KONG sucked the sweat from a dead guy's nutsack. And SITH was better than it.
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Dec 29, 2005 2:40:57 PM CST
Capone, I'd bitch about order but having read your worst lis
by big bad clone
But, seriously, no Serenity?
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I can see how some people may not have enjoyed it, but I think it's unfair to put it on the "Worst of" list. I thought it was a very enjoyable adaptation. Beautiful to look at, acceptable departures from the series, and--surprise of all surprises--a decent plot. So the action wasn't revolutionary; it still wasn't bad. They even waited until the end to kill the black chick. (And I thought Charlize did a great job with Aeon's vocal inflections.) Would I put it on a "Ten Best" list? No. But I liked it, and I thought it deserved more respect than it got.
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Thank you for that profound analysis of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. I now know all I have ever needed to know on the subject. Seriously even if the Israelis are completely innocent of any wrong doing (which is ludicrous - what goverment/national group is?) the very fact structure of the conflict is cyclical. Take your idealistic model for example: Palestinian Attack --> Israeli Military Counter Attack/Response --> Another Palestinian Attack (often sited as being in response to an Israeli act) --> Another Israeli Response --> ..., ad infinitum (or until on or the other is gone or somehow things change drastically in the interaction between these two groups). That is cyclical by definition, which means that there is a cycle of violence. I am making no ethical judgement about the events themselves, nor am I attempting to argue whether the validity of military response - I am simply stating that it is a cyclic pattern (by definition of cyclic). Therefore a cycle of violence does exist. #
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You wrote: "2005: One of the Best Years in Entertainment ever." Either you are under 21 or have some seriously low standards. There is not one genre movie from 2005 that will become a classic. Fact.
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Batman Begins.
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The scene that really stands out for me as the dumbest in Kong is where Kong, Ann, and two T-Rexes fall into a chasm and wind up suspended in some incredibly strong vines. The dinos are swaying back and forth, in mortal danger, and the only thing they can think of is to snap at Ann when they swing close to her. Then she winds up hanging from their teeth, or perched on their heads. Now THAT'S comedy! They really missed a bet by not playing circus music during that sequence.
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Bergman came out of retirement, Terry Malick made a film. Cannes was the shit this year. Some of the best films were in limited release, 2046, Castle in the Sky,... Jeezus, the more I think about it, this year was pretty damn good!
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Dec 29, 2005 3:15:05 PM CST
And by the way, could Last Days really be considered "Underrated
by leflambeur
I think critical praise was all that film had going for it.
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Made for Sci Fi movies are substantially better. I don't care if it was shelved for 3 years. Someone should've been sued for getting people to pay money to this 'Anna Paquin needs acne medication' vehicle.
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"But the real missed opportunity was not having Kong crap in his hand and bring down those biplanes with hurled shitbombs" ROTFLMAO!!! Another dumb thing they did was manage to lessen the impact of the greatest moment of the entire film. Said moment being when Anne, i think for the first time, willing moves towards Kong, and walks into his space-bubble for protection from the giant T-Rex. This is a powerful moment for her character and the visual of the slaying of the T-Rex by Kong, like in the original is very powerful...snapping its mouth open and crushing its head, then beating his chest in triumph. Great stuff in the original, however, in this movie the scene was ruined because we already have no doubt in our minds that Kong is going to whup this Dino, no problem. Why? Becuase 2 minutes earlier he just beat the shit out of 3 of the fuckers, single handedly. And I mean that literally. So now that he has the use of both hands and there's only 1 Dino to fight there's ZERO suspense...we knew it would be a sinch. Way to lower the stakes assholes!! How Jackson made such a simple mistake, which led to the fuck up of what should have been the best scene in the movie, we'll never know. As it turned out, it was just an extension of an already drawn-out, illogical action sequence. For this and many other reasons, KONG was not very good.
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Way to rank half of your top fifty as movies that COME OUT IN 2006!!! Jerk. Does this phrase sound familiar? "This movie actually comes out in 2006, but I saw it in 2005 so it goes on the list." If a movie was on the festival circut or has not come out in the theatres for public consumption it is simply not out. Why dont U start ranking rough cuts of movies U see that your friends have made as well??? "This movie is sceduled to come out in 2007 because no special effects are done for it, but I saw a pre effects verson and it was AMAISING!!! So im gonna put it on my best films of 2005 list. See this one late 2007!" Sic.
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Geez, I'm not sure I could even NAME 50 movies from 2005, much less say I've seen that many.
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A dumb little vanity movie without a laugh in it. Michelle Williams was fuckable though.
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are invariably formula comedies; which are also the most bankable genre that your can devise. Is there any word-group more terrifying to the ear than 'Steve Martin Family Film'...perhaps 'Martin Laurence Action-Comedy Vehicle'. (That shuddery noise that Homer Simpson makes would be appropriate here.)
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Despite his poor spelling and the fact that he's too lazy to type "you," beerbaby is correct. Putting movies from 2006 in your list is cheating.
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...you're considering "Kung Fu Hustle" a 2004 film (it was...but of course didn't play here until this year) Otherwise...good list.
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And I'm comin to get ya!!! If The Boogeyman was in The Boogeyman it would have been the greatest movie of all time.
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For all the docs on your list. I just added another dozen titles to my Netflix list. =)
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Yes, Batman Begins was pretty great. But it won't be a classic. Hell, it's already kind of dropped of the cultural radar only 6 months after it was released.
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I can't remember a year when I saw so many mediocre movies that got really good reviews. Constant Gardener, Good Night and Good Luck, Walk the Line. They all had their moments, but mostly they bored the crap out of me. Or, worse yet, beat me over the head with the points they were trying to make. The three best films I saw this year were all at the Toronto Film Festival within a two day period: Tsotsi (the best film in the last three or four years), Sympathy for Lady Vengeance and Tristram Shandy.
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Obviously, Capone doesn't care for the character. But for people who do (like me) that movie is hilarious. It's worth renting just for Martin Short's David Lynch impression. "I like the idea of a dark road".
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I hope you're not kidding about the shit-missile thing, because that would have been AMAZING. Have to agree with you about the t-rexes and raptors, lame that they were more concerned about getting a mouthful of human than not falling/getting pummelled/crushed etc... But for some reason I didn't mind Billy Elliot's amazing machine gun vs. cockroach tomfoolery. The insect cave was the only sequence in the whole film that really worked for me.
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Mr. Pibb + Red vines = Crazy Delicious!
Snack Attack, Mutha Fucka!!!
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Worst movie I've seen in along time. It meant well in it's message, but came off really cheesy. It just seemed like a mellodramatic lifetime movie. I actually threw up a little in my mouth with "You're my best friend," line. Terrence Howard ruled, though.
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Dec 29, 2005 5:14:09 PM CST
RE:" a film that doesn't mishandle or use CGI to overkill."
by citizen arcane
Kong? Are you drunk? Kong didn'r mishandle CGI or use it to overkill? Jackson's King Kong is the definition of mishandling CGI and using it to overkill. The rest of your article is invalidated by that statement alone. And Revenge of the Sith should have been in the top 5 because it said what Syriana and Munich said better.
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That's the definition of overkill. Especially when they could've shot a double from the reverse. or, heaven forbid, Naomi could've learned to juggle.
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MY BALLS!!!
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Dec 29, 2005 5:45:48 PM CST
I just love hearing the SITH fanboys try to talk down every movi
by theallseeingeye
In order to make SITH look like the best film ever. Have you kids heard yourselves? The fact that you are even going out of your way to do this just adds more emphasis to the shitness that Revenge of the Sith. Please, stop whining. Oh and Kong may have its flaws but the fucking imbecile above who thinks that the dialogue in Sith is better needs a fucking catscan ASAP.
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Terror. No doubt about it.
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without makeup...i mean...how bad could it be
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They both had essentially the same plot (corporate corruption screwing third-world countries), but the love story made the characters in The Constant Gardener worth caring about.
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Terrence Howard is my new favourite actor for 2006. I saw Hustle and Flow on a long haul flight. Great film. Also noticed his great performance in Four Brothers. His day will come. My other comment is about Descent. I wanted to, but I just didn't like it. NOT SCARY.
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Although it was head and shoulders above the previous two Star Wars prequel shitstorms which isn't saying much. Lucas blew it. I mean he fucking blew it out his ass with these prequels. Attack of the Clones made significantly less money than Phantom Menace because everyone was so pissed off about how Phantom Menace turned out. The only reason why Sith made so much money was because of all the prequel apologists that flocked to see it 10 times in a row, and the regular normal Star Wars fans and prequel haters going to see it only ONCE hoping that Lucas actually made a Star Wars movie this time instead of a childrens movie. Annakins turn to the dark side was treated like a short footnote or comma. He did it on the spur of the moment simply to save his wife. We all thought this was going to be some grand scheme of Annakins ambition, and the Jedi Council being jealous of him, or something else more logical and plausible. But no. It was a quickie spur-of-the-moment decision that took all of two minutes to become a homicidal murdering lord of the Sith. And for the idiot that said Sith had better dialog than Kong...wow...that was jawdropping hilarious. Talk about wishful thinking and denial. ROTFLMAO!!!!! Yeah, and I'm sure he also thinks Jar Jar had better screen presence than most actors in this years roundup of good movies.
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I can't believe you even came up with 50 films to list, considering there were only a few films this year that actually deserve recognition of any kind. Lists like this belie the fact that Hollywood is making the worst movies in its history. STOP PRAISING SHIT CAUSE IT DOESN'T STINK AS BAD AS DIARRHEA!!
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'Nuff said. Nice listing Capone!
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Now keep in mind I rarely see any artsy-fartsy films and so forth, so here we go-- 1. Batman Begins , 2. Star Wars Episode III, 3. Munich/War of the Worlds (the first half of WotW was incredible, second half not so much), 4. Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, 5. Kong (some decent editing would put this possibly at number 2), 6. Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-rabbit/ Corpse Bride, 7. Sin City (I regret not catching this one in theatres) 8. Constantine (maybe it's because I'm not terribly familiar with the comic, but I really liked this one), 9. Walk the Line, 10. Wedding Crashers/ 40 Year-old Virgin--As for the dialogue in RotS being better than Kong, uh...no. The romantic dialogue (in RotS) made me cringe harder than I've ever cringed before, and that's some hard cringing. But other than that, it was great. Oh, and I guess my list isn't a "Top 10" really, but my point has been uh, pointed. GONE
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Theya re probably all of 13 years old, at least I hope for their sake they are with the insane leaps of logic they use to excuse how horrible the film was. I think it could be argued that Episode 3 was the worst of the prequels. Many people say it was better just because something happened unlike in the first two prequels, but I would have rather seen nothing happen then see the moments I've been waiting my whole life to see butchered onscreen. With that said the OT is still the best trilogy of all time.
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best: 10.bad news bears 9.robots 8.batman begins 7.madagascar 6.harry potter and the goblet of fire 5.chicken little 4. charlie and the chocolate factory
3.40 year old virgin 2.star wars episode 3 and fantastic 4 {tie}
1...undecided. worst: 10.constantine 9.the pacifier 8.guess who 7.monster in law 6.bewitched 5.state of the union and red eye {tie} 4.hitch 3.sahara 2.racing stripes 1.dukes of hazzard...there ya go. -
please tell me it is.
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Dec 29, 2005 7:17:57 PM CST
one9deuce, something can be entertaining without having to be a
by llac9
I doubt you can be visiting this site and not like any of the movies I mentioned, you fucking hypocrite. How can you know what will become a classic and what won
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You said be gentle, so I will. But, Knights of Columbus, I'm scared if you're of majority age. Please tell me you're in Junior High so I don't weep for the future. And then I'm going surfing somewhere else - coversing with a 12 yr old on the net freaks me out!
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you are on drugs. nasty ones.
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Holy shit. When did this site turn into Romper Room? Do your mothers know you both are online talking to strange men? BTW, send me your address. Can we be friends? I have a great game we can play. All you need is rope, a blindfold and the ability to keep a secret...
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The George Lucas apologists vs the Peter Jackson loyalists. What an amazing battle to behold! "For Frodo!!!"
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Not sith bombs. Both MOVIES were very enjoyable. And to everyone moaning about Anakins turn they need to maybe rewatch their all-time fave "TESB" in which Yoda explains just how quick the darkside will take over someone.
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Um, I didn't say that something had to be a classic to be entertaining. You can go check my original post, but believe me, you're wrong. You did write this though: "2005: One of the Best Years in Entertainment ever." EVER!? There isn't a classic amongst any of the genre films this year, so how can it be one of the best years ever? You were wondering how I can know when a movie will be a classic? The same way everyone else does. When a film is destined to be remembered it is usually obvious immediately. Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jurassic Park, The Matrix, Pulp Fiction etc... Nothing like those from 2005, that is for damn sure.
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Dec 29, 2005 8:25:54 PM CST
Well it's obvious KING KONG is beloved by critics. Ebert has
by orionsangels
PJs King Kong will stand the test of time, just deal with it PJ haters
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I actually didn
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Dec 29, 2005 9:04:50 PM CST
despite everything I was taught in elementary school, pimpin'
by doctorwho?
Now that's damn funny!
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Why King should have worked? naomi watts... so hot in tank girl I cannot begin to explain to you.. i have had a crush that long... Peter?? Feebles and Brain Dead??? AND BAD TASTE... Jack Black? One of the best. But Kong sucked. Every scene was about a couple seconds too long. Naomi's role... how many hollywood starlets grew up pretending to be... uhh.. classic hollywood starlets? Jack Black was in over his eyebrows... adrian sucked. The whole thing sucked. I love Peter more than any director out there. CGI was misused.
Israel argument??? How are all of you entering into the same mistake our government did? Don't get involved in a land war in Asia. Sin City was terrible. Cannot be explained through vague blood and film noir antics. It was awful. History of Violence was phenomenal... if you don't think so, you weren't thinking at all. Batman Begins was one of the most amazing films.. 28 days and Red Eye's Scarecrow was the scariest and coolest villain ever. I almost forgot Katie Holmes was in it. War of the World was pretty amazing... considering I forgot Tom Cruise was in it, and I hate him like I hate ... well he is my standard so I hate him like I hate tom cruise. (What is the slipperiest thing you can think of? At this moment, this ice covered marble.) Darkness wasn't so bad, Boogeyman was UNACCEPTABLY bad, and after Yoda was levitating Pringles and the BK King was squaring off with Darth... who would EVER EVER EVER give a shit about those films. I egg Lucas Arts every day I drive past it on the presidio. That scene where Vader rises in the cave is the single most derivative and worst scene I have ever seen in a movie. I have never heard an audience laugh that hard during what was supposed to be a serious moment. BAD SIGN. King Kong was nowhere near as boring, reprehensible, over hyped or overdone as Episode three was. Actually... I take back my furor over Kong and replace EpIII. AND..without an argument, Israelis use tank shells that explode above ground, and send thousands of, for all intensive purposes, violent metal ninja stars down onto the public. They are called shredders... it is like from sci-fi shit... they use something that is meant to shred human carcasses and nothing else. this is not a group of radicals, this is a government. Governments need to follow human rights and wartime laws. Fucked up idiot radical groups don't. That is why they are terrorists. Israelis, then, are a government of terrorists. Enough of that. Let's talk about Hostel coming out, and how the US Gov is a terrorist organization. Shit, look at 24. Jack violates every law on the books time and time again. -
I have nothing against 10 year olds, but they shouldn't be looking at the filth on this board. It's just not right. Someone should look into this.
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did the people critizing kong's apparent lack of realism realize they were watching a movie about a 25 foot tall gorilla on an island populated by dinosaurs and giant insects? when you saw the kid shoot the bugs off jack driscoll, your immediate response was "OMG THATS FAKE!", but you didn't have a problem with the entire premise? it's called suspension of disbelief, i guess no one informed you that you were watching a fantasy film.
my top 6, because i haven't been out to the theater that often:
1. batman begins
2. sin city
3. a history of violence
4. king kong
5. the devil's rejects
6. grizzly man
i don't know how anyone can call revenge of the sith one of the best films of the year either, it was a pretty flimsy finish to a dismal set of prequels. all the fans seem to think that its acceptable to overlook the terrible acting, dialogue and story when they judge its quality. -
I still don't know why it got pissed on so badly by critics.
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Dec 29, 2005 10:14:16 PM CST
Only Spielberg could make a poorly conceived,mediocre film like
by doom ii
Lucas had 3 years between Star Wars prequels and none of them floored me like Munich. In fact, The Phantom Menace is the only prequel I saw more than 1 time in the theater and it just so happens to be the highest grossing of the 3 prequels. Yet fans say it is the worst. In retrospect, it actually has more "replay" value than Clones or Sith (Jar-Jar or not). Oh yeah, The Fog wasn't as bad a these AICN thugs make it out to be.
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Had he not been in it (he seems to have found some fun in the role finally) it would have been a complete waste of time. I would have rather seen a 2 hours "Adventures Of Obi-Wan" movie than Sith as a whole. Grievous? Yes, very. Thanks for asking.....
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Dec 29, 2005 11:27:14 PM CST
Anybody got any insight into why Crash is the hip movie to say y
by barry egan
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Not that I was going to see it before DVD, but if the nature of the mechanism by which the kids are being offed is at all kept as a reveal, you just blew it for all of us. Dumbass.
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Dec 30, 2005 1:49:37 AM CST
i hope brokeback mountain wins best picture. there is so much f
by chief redcock
if that helps make it go away, i'm all for it...
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Dec 30, 2005 1:51:28 AM CST
i admired crash's message, but i have to admit, it doesn'
by chief redcock
it feels too melodramatic and contrived in places, and the stories don't link together very well at all...
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Crash is a hip movie to hate in the way meditation is a hip thing to do in the way Ding, Dong Merrily on High! is a hip sequence of words - none of which are as hip as Anderson Cooper's least prolific beef jerkey saltbrush.
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Dec 30, 2005 6:40:33 AM CST
the new Star Wars flicks are kinda like Ray Harryhausen movies
by nicemarmot
You don't watch them for the acting, dialogue, or storytelling. The FX are the stars. Of course, there's quite a difference between watching a craftsman like RH work his magic vs the digital renderings of Lightwave Studio Max or whatever the fuck they use nowadays. Point is, bashing SW for wooden acting makes as much sense as bashing Jason and the Argonauts for the same thing. Maybe they did back in the day, I don't know. But now, most of Harryhausens films garner more praise than flak, and if the monsters were guys in rubber suits instead of stop-motion, I don't think that'd be the case at all. However, I do find it interesting that the two big stop-motion pictures this year (Corpse Bride & Were-Rabbit) were far far better than the two big CGI spectacles (Sith & Kong). As for War of the Worlds, I thought it nicely underplayed the CGI in the way Capone (in what appears to be peyote-influenced) states Kong did. Most of the memorable frights in WotW were done with little to no FX work - the bodies in the river, the minivan mob scene, Tommy boy realizing he's covered in dead people, the capsizing ferry, and so on. This and the Batman movie were the only big fx spectacles worth a damn this year.
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Dec 30, 2005 6:46:24 AM CST
To IndustryKiller! and all the folks who have an irratioanlly de
by the dubliner
...lads...calm the fuck down. So we like some movie that you don't. Deal with it. Why do you try to rationalise this in your head by convincing yourself that people who like the Prequels are "apologists" or 13 years old. Were you hurt by these films in some way? Has Lucas raped your childhood again? Let me clear something up for you: Dialog and acting in Lord of the Rings: 8 out of 10. Dialog and acting in Revenge of the Sith 6 out of 10. Dialog and acting in King Kong (2005): 3 out of 10. Kong was THAT FUCKING BAD! And I am no PJ hater, and certainly no GL apologist. This is how I saw it. Objectively. ROTS is not perfect. LOTR is near perfect. KK is a badly made film from start to finish. I consider PJ to be more talented than Lucas, yes...but he fucked Kong up royally. NOW, HAS REALITY SUNK IN YET? Not everyone who liked ROTS is a SW nerd or "Apologist"(what a fucking stupid term for someone who likes a movie). Now it would seem that some of the folks in here will love whatever shit Jackson and his ape-flick flung at them. Kong was flawed, as was SITH. But Kong takes the fucking monkey-shit-biscuit for being ultra fucking corny and shitty, IMO. Now quit it with your hate filled rants about people you don't even know...just because they got something out of a movie that you didn't like for your own valid reasons. It's really fucking tiresome. SW Revenge of the Sith was a thoroughly enjoyable, yet flawed, popcorn flick. Much like all the other SW flicks. Get over it...or seek some help if it is still bothering you so much.
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The reason alot of people get wound up by prequel fans is that they insist on trying to convert the masses by trying to shit on every film released the same year. Seriously, i don't know how you can sit there with a straight face and say that Kong was a weaker film than Sith. Some of the shittier movies of the year were better than sith in so many respects that i simply don't have time to list them all but needless to say as far as acting and dialogue goes Sith was the poorest film of the year. Seriously, when you have to sit and nit pick a years worth of movies in order to make ONE movie look a little better then thats a clear indication of how crap that movie really was. The only people in here that need to seek help are the star wars fans who can't believe that SITH didnt make capones list; just count yourself lucky it didn't make his worst list and is instead lucky to be counted amongst the more mediocre titles of the year.
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You still don't get it do you. I don't give a fuck what you think of me or SITH. I wasn't bashing every other film I was merely comparing SITH to KONG and I think SITH is better. You think KONG was better. Good for you. Yet your still spending time in here telling me how shit SITH was. Are you not over it yet or something? I'm talking about KONG because its a current film and used SITH as an example of something better. I'm not going to be here in 6 months time giving people a hard time for liking KONG. Why would I want to do that. If they like it, good for them. But some people, yourself included still feel the need to try to convince people like me that SITH was crap. I didn't think so. Accept it, move on. Let me try this: I agree there were many films this year that were much better than SITH. Now can you shut the fuck up about how bad you though it was?
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Dec 30, 2005 7:27:09 AM CST
TheDubliner..I'll shut the fuck up about how poor it was..
by theallseeingeye
Only if you shut the fuck up about how good i was. I don't need to convince anyone how crap Sith was, it speaks volumes for itself, (hence the apologists title given to blinkered fans who know deep down it was shit they just can't bring themselves to say it). Plus, its a bit of a double standard, you can come here and say how shit movies are but i can't? Nice..also, i'm not trying to convince you its crap; christ, a hand written letter from GL himself saying he disowned the prequels wouldn't be enough to convince you. Stop crying about it, i've already said i couldn't give a shit if you enjoyed it or not, i'm asking you to stop talking out of your arse about every other movie that came out this year.
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Dec 30, 2005 8:10:30 AM CST
Kong was the most overrated, underwhelming film of the year -- t
by atticus finch
What a flop! I am getting a good laugh out of everyone who said Kong would break records at the box office. It is barely holding on to stay ahead of Narnia. Narnia! The only reason it is being received by the critics and PJ ballsuckers as well as it has is because PJ is the current "darling" of the industry thanks to LOTR, and that is why Kong's laughably bad CGI will win this year's Oscar as well. And as for TheAllSeeingAss, the haters are the ones trying to convince themselves ROTS was, as you say, "crap". ROTS was praised just as well by the critics as Kong. It will make roughly $100 million more. Kong isn't getting near the repeat business at the box office because of how shitty it is. Take off the rose-colored glasses...Kong was a major disappointment. I can't understand how you convinced yourself otherwise.
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Dec 30, 2005 9:24:46 AM CST
PJ's KING KONG Is The Most Overrated Film Of All Times
by zombiesolutions
did I see the same movie that everyone else saw? did i forget to drink the kool aid? look, it was okay... okay at best. if you look past the fact that it was bloated, hubris-filled mess that ran at least an hour too long, you could even say it was 'good', but no way in hell is it oscar / golden globe worthy. i think people are just rewarding PJ for his brilliant work on LOTR, not for KONG. KONG needed a thorough editing from someone tough enough to tell Jackson to stop fucking around with the giant bugs and get back to the goddamn story. also, to knock off the Heart of Darkness crap. yes, PJ, we all saw Apocalypse Now too, thanks for sharing; in addition, its a far better film than you have ever made. of course, since PJ is the new hollywood darling, anything he touches will be praised regardless of its sundry faults, excesses, and pointless digressions. i hope he hires an editor for his next film. i think the guy is great, but KONG was a mess.
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Dec 30, 2005 9:29:29 AM CST
I have such tremdous issues with the stolen pen in King Kong
by bendersshinyass
Vintage pens made in the 30's aren't ball point. They're fountain. The pen he picks up in Kong is the exact same cheap thing sitting in front of my key board that I ripped off from the business next door. Revenge of Sith and war of the worlds were the only films worth watching this year. King Kong and Batman Begins were embarrasing.
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Dec 30, 2005 9:37:45 AM CST
REVENGE OF THE SITH And SIN CITY Were The Best BIG Movies This Y
by zombiesolutions
KONG and BATMAN were okay. i didn't hate them, but i didn't love em either.
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...it wasn't a good film, but it was bad in the way I wanted it to be. It deserves a place in everyone's heart alongside Barbarella and Flash Gordon.
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I'm a junior if that helps you sleep better at night. And I'm an avid animator as well, so I just enjoy that kinda stuff. Not that I wouldn't see something like Murderball (which looks kinda interesting by the way) or Crash, but the local Cinemagic 7 doesn't carry movies like that, which kinda blows at times. Anywho, I stand by my list and so forth. But why all the hate for Constantine? Maybe I just had a REAAALLL good time when I saw it, but from what I remember it was pretty swell. What do you people hate about it, other than the fact he isn't a blonde British guy?
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I know someone else has already pointed it out, but hats off to you Capone for sitting through so many romantic comedies and family comedies (I was quite literally dragged to Cheaper by the Dozen 2 and still feel dirty 4 days later). Semper Fi (guh?)!
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one, that is my 10 best movies list IT'S NOT A JOKE! two, i'm 19 on new years day. and three, ITS NOBODYS GODDAMN BUSINESS WHAT I PUT ON MY BEST/WORST LISTS!! no offense to any talkbackers...but did anyone even READ my list?! i have 40 year old virgin and batman begins on there and until i get to see king kong, my best movie is undecided and the movies on my worst list, in MY opinion they did NOT SUCK, they were just ok. besides, they really need to stop bitching and moaning about this year of movies IT'S NOT THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD, PEOPLE! have you ever heard the phrase..there's always next year? and besides, after watching madagascar on dvd, the next movie i'm wrong about, i'm gonna shove a film strip down my throat. ha ha ha. thanx.
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ROTFLMAO "I don't need to convince anyone how crap Sith was?" Then why do you keep trying to convince me? In that single post alone you repeat yourself over and over trying to convince me that it is shit. Way to prove my point, retard! While I am finished talking about how shit I thought Kong was you are still ranting about SITH. If it doesn't matter to you that I liked ROTS then why are you still going on about how bad it was. Let's look at what you said: "I'll shut the fuck up about how poor it was...Only if you shut the fuck up about how good i was." Again, why does it matter to you that I thought it was good. Why do you feel compelled to respond, repeating how bad you thought it was. You won't change my mind. It sounds like you are trying to convince yourself. Oh, and by the way, what other films besides Kong have I flamed to try to prove that SITH is good. I like to see you point them out, shithead, becuase I only mentioned KONG. How dumb can you be? Let's try this little exercise so I can prove to you the difference between us: I invite you to post 20 times about how good you think Kong is...then we'll see how many times I post back telling you how shit it was. I think you will find I won't respond because I don't feel the need to change your mind...you liked it...I'm ok with that, and I certainly don't think I should tell you that you're wrong for liking it, or continue to rant directly at you about how shit I thought it was. If I did, I'd be like you...and luckily for me, I'm not. I'm finished with you...you've proven yourself to be an idiot and someone who has problems dealing with the fact that some people actually liked the Prequels. Again, it baffles me as to why some people continue to insist on insulting Prequel fans and keep trying to spoil it for people who liked it. Why can't some people just get over it? All theories about what's actually going on in the heads of these fuckers are welcome...
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Dec 30, 2005 10:33:12 AM CST
Yes, he puts King Kongwinded in there and does not mention Narni
by salvatoregravano
The list became invalid at that point and I did not check it further.
Admittedly, though, the Jackong is a fine 30-minute film. Too bad it's followed by 150 minutes of unwatchable ennui and some loud and wearisome roars and explosions.
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Dec 30, 2005 10:37:33 AM CST
ZombieSolutions..I agree Peter Jackson is a great director...LOT
by the dubliner
I think the problem probably was with the editing. But the script was pretty shitty to begin with. The only improvement over the original, IMO, was the Kong\Anne relationship. They could have dropped all the extra shit, but kept the Kong\Anne stuff, then the movie would have been at least on par with the original, and maybe slightly better. At least it would have been played straight. This film felt like it was hammed up to the max.
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There was no mention of SITH until you and a number of other sad sacks came on complaining that it wasn't in Capones list. Sorry, but thats simply the highest form of hypocrasy i've seen here in a long time...you can lambast capone for not putting Sith on his list but not accept any criticism of it or reasons as to why it didnt make the grade?. Do me a favour will you and choke on a fucking potato you silly bastard. I've never, EVER, tried to convince you to change your opinion; it would be pointless even if i wanted to try. You have your opinion, i have mine. Fact is, you're the fucking cry baby complaining that a movie, widely regarded as shit, hasn't made someones top 25 of the year. Oh and one more thing, i'm not saying Kong is a cinematic masterpiece, check my fucking posts you stupid irish twat, i never said it was perfect; i simply called you on your ludicrous statement that it has crumbier dialogue, acting and direction compared to sith. You make such a bold statement yet fail to provide any reasons as to why you come to that conclusion. Englighten me will you? I could do with a good laugh. Obviously when it comes to movies you don't know you're arse from your elbow so its pointless debating this issue with you and some of the other whiners here; i might as well go and debate this with a group of Downs Syndrome children, they'd grasp the concept a little quicker than you do. Face it, you're just plain pissed off that Kong made a list 25 movies that Capone rates higher than Sith. Get over it. For someonw who likes to reiterate how little he actually cares about this you certainly make a lot of noise. Now for Atticus Finch, how many times do people have to throw box office takings in as a sign of how good a movie is? For fucks sake, are you really that stupid? A great movie can do dire money at the box office and a shit movie can do great. It's called marketing you fucking clown and given that the prequels rely so heavily on their 30 year old pedigree it's hardly surprising the numbers for sith would be so high. I remember a similar argument on these very pages regarding jacksons LOTR franchise, again far from perfect but so much more than ANY of the prequels that again, the prequel pologists had to try and pick holes in those movies too and if i'm not mistaken they've made a mint at the box office as well as DVD sales. Therefore, what exactly is your point Atticus? That you're a blinkered cretin who can't stand to see a movie you like criticised? We know that already. Please, tell me how anything you said in your last post proves sith is a great film, i'd love to hear the direct correlation between box office take and piss poor direction, acting and dialogue. Boohoo, people don't like Revenge of the Sith, so fucking what? Get over it, crying about it won't do any good nor will it put you on most cinema afficianados top 25 movies of the year. Do you all want Capone to rewrite his list to accomodate you? It fucking sounds like it to me. I await your witty response that explains nothing.
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I stopped reading your post after the first few sentences...because they are flat out wrong. I think you have me confused with someone else. Here's what you say: "you and a number of other sad sacks came on complaining that it wasn't in Capones list" and "you can lambast capone for not putting Sith on his list"... Now, I haven't mentioned Capone's list once in this entire talkback. I made no reference to his list whatsoever. Check again, fool! If you want a chronology...here's what happened. Somebody ELSE above mentioned SITH not being on the list, and I decided to chime in with why I thought SITH was better than KONG, in an attempt to describe why I don't like KONG, more-so than in an attempt to describe why I think SITH is a good movie. SITH was just the example...but I should have known better. The psychologically unstable people who can't live with the fact that some people like the Prequels (that would be you) never miss a beat, and at the mention of SITH being a good movie, you ranted on about how it wasn't. The discussion wasn't about SITH, you shithead, it was KONG. I could have compared it to Batman Begins too. But you've proved my points so many times there is no point in continuing. The rest of your post looks very long and probably goes off into another tangent accusing me of something I didn't say. Hmmmm, I think I'll scan over it....Yes, there you are shitting on about box office numbers and something about To Kill a Mocking Bird. Man you are fucking crazy, or else you have the wrong guy. But I do have one question for you: What is the difference between "stupid" and "just plain ignorant"?
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Dec 30, 2005 11:33:40 AM CST
here was no mention of SITH until you and a number of other sad
by lukecash
It's number 50 on his list. Sith, by all means should be higher. Kong shouldn't be so high on the list. I too enjoyed SITH. I'm a LONG time fan (Saw it when it came out). Sith is one of the best STAR WARS movie. That's where you nay sayers get mixed up...The films need to be considered onto themeslves, not other movies. SIth is however, not the best movie this year. Munich, Syriana and Batman Begins were better.
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Dec 30, 2005 12:28:02 PM CST
What is the difference between "stupid" and "just plain ignorant
by theallseeingeye
With stupid you have a reason to be oblivious, plain ignorant means you simply don't care. Judging by your last post i guess you fall into the 'stupid' category. I'd like to know what points i've proven for you, you've not made any fucking sense at all, just screaming like a 5 year old because he's not getting his own way. Face it mate, you're a fucking stupid cunt who hasn't really got a point other than, Star Wars is great and even then that point is so far removed from truth it's laughable. Oh and it was your boyfriend atticus finch who mention Box Office numbers, he's another cretin who hasn't got a valid point to make about anything other than whine about the lack of respect given to a very poor movie. Be it Kong, Batman Begins, hell, even Zorro, Sith has to be one of the worst movies of the year not alone for poor acting, direction and dialogue but plain and simple disappointment. Oh and i've yet to have your comparison between Kong and Sith and the lines in Kong that made you cringe, i can rattle a shit load off from Sith. Have you even seen Kong? To make such a fucking stupid statement like the dialoge in Sith is better makes me believe you haven't...christ. Also, enlighten me as to what points i've proven..apart from the one where i nailed you as a pathetic whining fanboy? Can you simply not accept that there were movies out this year BETTER than Sith? Or are you just so blinkered you can't believe that someone, with taste, would rank it so low?
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"You're stupid because you put down all non-SITH movies!"
"No, YOU'RE stupid because SITH was only an example!" "I don't care what you think anyways!!"
"Well I don't care what YOU think anyways!!" "Obviously you do!!"
"No, YOU do!!!"
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You post is so full of hypocrisy it is staggering. First you say "Fact is, you're the fucking cry baby complaining that a movie, widely regarded as shit, hasn't made someones top 25 of the year." Then you say "Please, tell me how anything you said in your last post proves sith is a great film, i'd love to hear the direct correlation between box office take and piss poor direction, acting and dialogue." Let me ask you...how does anything you say even come close to proving that ROTS is, as you say, "widely regarded as shit"? Look at Rotten Tomatoes. ROTS scored fresh by an overwhelming majority of critics, hardly people I would call apologists. And true, box office does not a good movie make, but read my post again, dim wit. The point I was making was that for ROTS to earn such a high box office means that it had to have repeat business outside of the die-hard fanboy ticket buyers, thus proving that it was widely accepted as a good movie, at least good enough to see multiple times. What I have given you proves that the majority of movie-goers enjoyed Sith much more than anything you have said to prove ROTS was, and again I quote, "WIDELY regarded as shit". As for your claim that ROTS was full of "piss por directing, acting, and dialogue", that is a matter of opinion, of course. But I would say you are in the vocal minority who for some reason can't stop obsessing about a movie that came out six months or so ago that you supposedly "hate". You may feel free to leave now.
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I mean...c'mon. NOT in the Top 50 of the year? Are you serious...it has made other TOP TEN lists this year...and THIS site was praising it as loud as anybody was.
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Kong was at least self referential. The scene where vader rises is the single most derivative, tired, hacked out awful scene from film history. If it was an homage to frankenstein.. and almost seemed so with his walking, but it was not done expertly enough.... oh whatever. How can you all look past the INSANE level (yes, more than normal.. more than the already disgusting amount of promo product crap) of SW Ep III hype.... yoda levitating pringles, bk guy squaring off with Darth... I know it exists elsewhere... but in such sheer, insulting quantity? I cannot watch any of that shit without beind reminded of stupid ad shot promo crap. How do you guy suspend that? It poisons me... ugh.
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...this will probably be my last response to you (unless you give me more easy ammo). Here goes... you put it to me: "enlighten me as to what points i've proven..apart from the one where i nailed you as a pathetic whining fanboy?" Ok, here's some enlightenment dipshit...Just to prove yet again how much of a fucking spastic you are...and how wrong you are...You said this of me in your last post: "Can you simply not accept that there were movies out this year BETTER than Sith?"...Now, if you weren't such a ranting, raving, irrational moron you would have noticed where I said above, and I quote: "I agree there were many films this year that were much better than SITH. Now can you shut the fuck up about how bad you though it was?" So, right there is me proving that a) I am not a narrow minded fanboy who defends and promotes SITH at all cost, I had already admitted there were much better movies, and b) that you're a complete dumbass who doesn't read other people's posts before attacking them with stupid, inexcusably uninformed, bullshit. That post of mine was in fact an attempt to reason with you but its obvious that is not possible. You replied to that post of mine immediately with something, that I have already shown, and will now show again, proves another thing that I said about you earlier: That you DO care, and it DOES annoy you, that I like Revenge of the SITH...let me quote you again, for proof: "TheDubliner..I'll shut the fuck up about how poor it was...Only if you shut the fuck up about how good i was." See...you couldn't just accept that I like it and let it go. You admit that you rant about how crap ROTS is because I expressed my liking for it. This demonstrates that it does indeed bother you that I, and perhaps others, enjoyed Revenge of the SITH. It's on the record. You said it! But why stop there...I'd also like to prove another hypocritical contradiction of yours. This is so easy, its actually becoming amusing. You said of me, and I quote: "you've not made any fucking sense at all, just screaming like a 5 year old because he's not getting his own way" Really? And what would "my own way" be? I already said I don't give a fuck if SITH is on the list or not. But I guess I've already proved you don't pay attention so I don't need to spend much more time on that part of the quote. Let's look at the rest of it, specifically the "5 year old" remark. Let's see how difficult it is to turn this back on you. Easy...I just decided to read through your big long winded post that I had earlier ignored after the first few sentences (said sentences I have also already proved to be wrong). And I must say, I'm glad now that I did ignore the rest of your long winded rant earlier. This is what you said in that post: "you stupid irish twat"... Now, had I realised you were a racist, bigotted, sub-human piece of shit...I wouldn't have entertained this discussion any further...but I must say, proving you to be a complete fucking asshole IS INDEED entertaining. And by re-printing your immature, 5-year-old-esque, racial attack on me...I'm pretty confident that I have, in fact, also conclusively proven you to be a complete fucking asshole. So please, if you would kindly...GO FUCK YOURSELF! :-)
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...yes, you've guessed it...a RACIST ASSHOLE. For more information...see above.
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NOTE: This is based on Ireland\UK release dates. We don't get your late year oscar season flicks until early 2006 so you won't find any of them here, and some of these may have been late 04 oscar season flicks in the U.S. HERE GOES: (alphabetical) Batman Begins...Downfall...Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire...The Interpreter...Just Like Heaven...The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou...Madagascar...Million Dollar Baby...Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith...Team America: World Police...Wallace and Grommit: Curse of the Ware Rabbit...War of the Worlds. I missed a shit load of movies in 05, and have rented fuck all DVDs. I'm pretty sure a lot of the flicks I wanted to see but missed were great too.
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some of those are 2004 (downfall, life aquatic, million dollar baby)
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downfall, million dollar baby and life aquatic were 2004
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Dec 31, 2005 3:38:26 AM CST
I liked Crash better when it was called "HIGHER LEARNING" and it
by jrcash
"...and THEN, lets structure the movie like Magnolia, but we have to keep it short, so there can't be any actual development of chracters, after all, why should each one have more than four scenes?" The acting was good, but eveything else about CRASH was just an insult.
And Lars Von Trier is a genius on a lavel that people will not understand for at least 30 years. People, of course, except for me, as I am a graduate student studying religion and media, and therefore perfectly understand his genius. His endings blow, but he's a GENIUS. Except for Dogville, which may be one of the sweetest filmd endings EVER!!! SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER Who knew Nicole Kidman could be gangsta? -
Dec 31, 2005 3:55:38 AM CST
now lars von trier is a truly great filmmaker. crash couldn'
by chief redcock
that guy knows how to make a movie that doesn't insult your intelligence... and he's crazy as hell, which just makes the experience more fun. i haven't seen manderlay yet (DAMN i want to) but i'm sure it does everything right that crash does wrong. i don't know what it is... he's not subtle, but he's not obvious either. he can be bold and audacious and political without hitting you over the head with pap and self-righteous messages. mr. haggis, take note, and rent dogville....
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Dec 31, 2005 4:02:59 AM CST
I'll take old-Stars Wars dialogue over new-Stars dialogue an
by bino white
There's a difference between cheesy, funny dialogue and painful, unfunny dialogue.
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Let's get something straight, you are a stupid irish twat. There i've said it again, i'm qualified in irish stupidity see cos my dad also happens to be a potato eater but you're easily the most stupid wife beater i've ever met. Now you're playing the, "i tried to reason with you card" which is total fucking shit. Read my very first post, not openly hostile or threatening, it was a response to a question YOU posted and i called you on your incredibly laughable conclusion that the dialogue in Kong was crapper than Sith. Now, i know people are entitled to their opinion, but even the fans of the prequels know the dialogue is shitty and quite frankly in terms of scriptwriting, Kong mops the floor with Sith or ANY of the prequels. You might not like the movie, but you cannot seriously say that that SITH has better acting and dialogue. The only conclusion i can draw from that ludicrous statement of yours is a) You're mentally handicapped or b) A fanboy who has to find a reason to dislike a movie he really knows is actually superior in nearly every way. Face it mate, you're a fucking pathetic cock end. I called you on your stupid statement and you get hostile with me..check your response to my initial post. I've asked you for a single example of crap dialogue from the movie and you haven't given me ONE; what's wrong? Not seen the movie in fear of actually LIKING it?? No, you can't answer that question really can you, so how do you make youself sound more credible; simple, you accuse me of being racist in the hopes of absoving yourself from the requirement of actually answering 1 simple question i put to you. Well let me point something out for you, you are indeed 1) STUPID, 2)IRISH and 3) A TWAT, therefore i am simply stating an observation. Also, racism has nothing to do with what country you are from more from, the term for that is called xenophobia you thick irish bastard :D LMFAO Thanks for proving my point about you're stupidity/retardation. You'll find big words like that, and more, in these marvellous things that the rest of the world call 'BOOKS'. I think there's a big library in Dublin, you should check it out and afterwards find time to throw yourself into the Liffy and do humanity a favour. Finally, because it's blatantly apparent that you can't give me a single line of shit dialogue from Kong i'll provide you with a crap line from sith, (perhaps the shittest line in cinema history)...here goes...ahem...."NOOOOOOOOOOOO" (cue frankensteins monster climbing of the table). I hope this clears things up for you; you remain, a stupid irish twat.
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You honestly think that people who aren't die hard fans went multiple times to endure that dreck? Please, the prequels main success derives from the success of the original trilogy; even the prequel haters, myself included, have been to the cinema to see the prequels in the vain hope that they might actually prove to be a decent film. Then take into consideration how many screens Sith opened on. The local UCI cinema here had sith running from Midnight on 5 screens all of which were sold out, you can't honestly tell me that people waiting at 1am to see a movie are casual non-star wars fans...i was there mate..there was a whole load of freaks dressed up and ugly women accompanying them. Factor in marketing and you've got all the kids going to see it accompanied by at least 1 adult and then you've got the csual cinema goer with his wife/girlfriend/friend. It was never in question that Sith was going to be a Box Office monster and i'm not denying that it was huge, though don't you find it strange that Ep 1 had the highest Box Office draw? Can you not draw any conclusions from that? Box Office success has nothing, NOTHING, to do with the quality of a movie...these days at any rate..as far as the 'fresh' reviews on RT goes, i think you'll find that the more respectable reviewers were less than happy in their appraisals but thats ok, as long as Mavis Finkleberry from the Des Moines Horse and Pony magazine enjoyed it.
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Boy, talk about someone making excuses! Of course the midnight showing was nothing but Star Wars freaks! But for Sith to have the awesome legs it did means that Joe Moviegoer liked it enough to either A) see it multiple times or B)recommend it to others. For a film to make nearly $400 million, especially after reception of the first two prequels, should tell you that more than Star Wars geeks and children saw it over and over. Look at Serenity as proof that a rabid fan base can't carry a movie. Anyway, your last post is the definition of someone grasping at straws in the vain attempt to try to convince the rest of the world that Sith was "widely regarded as shit". If that thought helps you get through your miserable days, more power to you. The majority of us will go on loving Revenge of the Sith and loving life.
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. . . are arranged in decending order. Star at #50 then BUILD to #1. Sheesh.
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"i think you'll find that the more respectable reviewers were less than happy in their appraisals but thats ok, as long as Mavis Finkleberry from the Des Moines Horse and Pony magazine enjoyed it." Eh...who gives a fuck what any critic thought. I liked it...Atticus Finch liked it. To the people who liked it, that's all that matters. We don't need to have our opinions validated. Though here you still are...working hard to ridicule the film, sill trying to convince others that it isn't widely liked. Sad...very sad. That ass pounding that Lucas enflicted on your childhood must still be hurting, eh?
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We're talking top 50! Those movies were major surprises in the good way.
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Dec 31, 2005 6:33:47 PM CST
I'm with the haters. I did not see a single good movie this
by philconnors
Sin City, Sith, Crash, Broken Flowers, Kong, Narnia, Constantine, Batman Begins, 40 Year Old Virgin, all terrible. Maybe I should say that there was not a single good "genre" movie this year. Although I haven't seen the one gay cowboy genre flick so can't comment on that. Walk the Line may have been the only movie I saw that didn't make me want to gouge out my eyes. I still want to see a few movies, such as Capote, History of Violence, Munich, Grizzly Man, Squid and Whale, Match Point. I am not expecting any of them to be good, because frankly I think that the industry is mostly incapable of making a good movie.
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It does a good job of that itself...no i'm still waiting for an example of dialogue from Kong that is worse than anything in Sith...i don't give a fuck if you like it or not, i'm calling you on that your statement that Kong has weaker dialogue - show me an example.
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PhilConnors, you need to go back into the time loop, you grumpy prick.
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Its all subjective anyway... Considering I only think there's one bad line in SITH, and groaned when it was said, and did so again on second viewing. Whereas with KONG i groaned quite a few times at the dialog. Unfortunately though I can't remember the exact lines in KONG. They weren't memorable and I've only seen it once. I've seen SITH 3 times now so I can recall the line in that I didn't like. OBI-WAN: "How did this happen? We're smarter than this". That line just sounds silly when said, it just doesn't fit. Other than that I thought everything else that was said in SITH worked and fit the scene\character. The bits in KONG I didn't like mostly surrounded the kid who befriended the black dude, and also loads of Jack Black's line. One terrible part when just after the old man gets killed by the raptor as they are climbing(Yes, btw, I have seen KONG). Black repeats something he said on the boat when drunk about the guy dying for a good cause, and its just very corner, and comes off as kind of sick, rather than amusing. But that's just my opinion. Since we differ wildly on the merits of both movies I expect us to differ on this aspect also. Fact is, SITH held me from start to finish. KONG lost me around an hour in, and by the time the guy, who's only bit of acting was keeping one eye shut, got killed by the sucker creature things in the swamp, in an over the top death scene, more worthy of a antagonist, than a protagonist, I turned to my fiance and said "this is a dreadful film", I wasn't sure if it was just me, but she answered..."I've been thinking that for the last half hour". We just thought it was sub par. We both loved SITH though, and my fiance isn't into Star Wars. I believe SITH is a superior film, and I enjoyed it more. However, I have to say LOTR:TFOTR, is superior to SITH. I think that has to be the most well made, in every respect, fantasy adventure film, I've ever seen. So I ain't a blind PJ hater, GL lover. I think I've been very objective in approaching the Prequels. KONG just didn't do it for me. It actually bothered me at times. And I went in excited about how good it was going to be. It let me down.
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I'm not saying Kong is a cinematic masterpiece but still found it an entertaining movie. I certainly didn't wince when some of the lines were delivered though i did wince in the LOTR movies when it was decided to interject a comical Gimli into more serious scenes. Sith, all in all, makes me cringe on so many levels i can't list them all. Apart from the horrid "Nooooooo" at the end i also found myself clenching my teeth and curling my toes at "No, It's because i'm so in love with you". Although, thanks for pointing out the Obi-Wan line i'd forgotten that one, perhaps overshadowed by the "I think we've lost something" line delivered 10 mins after. My least favourite scene is in the opening act with R2 in the hangar bay; I swear to god my brow has remained wrinkled since May from the wincing i did during that scene. For me, Sith and the other prequels are just filled with cheesy dialogue. The OT has cheesy dialogue but i guess the actors knew that and made it work; same kinda lines, less wincing. The new prequel would work if the actors were let loose fully with their roles and were allowed to 'ham it up'. I can take cheesy dialogue, just not when it's delivered in such a serious tone. Oh and yes, When did Obi Wan become Noel Coward? There's no doubt in my mind that the actors in Sith all know how to act, i just think they were hindered by poor direction. With Kong, i get the impression that the people involved knew they were making a reasonably corny movie, the performers look comfortable with their roles and i think you can tell that the director gave his actors a little more decision on how to play their parts. Each to his own...
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Yes Lucas can do what he likes with his movie, but i thought he bottled it with regards to why Anakin turned. I was always under the impression that "Vader, was seduced by the dark side of the force". I wanted him to just go nasty, not because he did it thinking he could save his wife but rather the power simply went to his head...but...i'm not the writer..unfortunately. It would have also been nice if he'd took a little longer to turn instead of just submitting in 15 seconds flat and becoming evil outright after that..oh well.
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Jan 01, 2006 10:20:57 PM CST
Almost every film I've seen this year was beter than Revenge
by the outlander
Just because Revenge of the Sith was better than the previous two Star Wars movies doesn
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Dude, that IS being generous. I'd give it 4/5 and I loved it! I think your star rating system must be on the blink...you didn't see any 2/5's this year?
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Made me laugh out loud. Oh, and War of the Worlds is pretty damn shitty. Oh, and The Interpreter was pretty damn near unwatchable. I walked out of Aeon Flux and reeeeaaallly hated Land of the Dead. That about wraps it up for me. Thanks for reading.
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crime. I know its your own opinion and all, and I have no right to call you out on it, but imho, Serenity and KFH *need* to be there.
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crime. I know its your own opinion and all, and I have no right to call you out on it, but imho, Serenity and KFH *need* to be there.
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That must be some sort of mathematical impossibilty.
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